I am a LEO in Oklahoma. When I make traffic stops and someone hands me their conceal carry card or tells me they have a gun in the vehicle, I tell them all the same thing, "We are in Oklahoma. I would be disappointed if you aren't carrying a firearm."
If I am not mistaken, we are a constitutional carry state right? But regardless if I were to be pulled over, I would inform the officer that I am armed and where the firearm is located
I was LE in AZ for 25 years, and I assumed EVERYONE had weapons. Those that did, we had lengthy conversations. The strangest ones were when guys had a weapon but there wasn’t one in the chamber. They always told me, I can rack a round quickly. 🤦🏻♀️
You sound like a straight liar we can carry with no training no permit no nothing over 21 and you don’t need nothing! Also if you don’t ask we do not have to tell in Oklahoma but most cops start with that lol
In my 30+ years of LE service, I've never given a ticket to a legally armed CCF permit holder who advised me at the start of the traffic stop that they were armed. I usually thanked them for giving me the courtesy of letting me know that they're armed. I then issued them a verbal or written warning and bidded them a good rest of the day or night.
That is exactly the perspective that makes for a legitimate civil service career, I have on a few occasions been stopped both while on foot & in a vehicle (as a passenger cause I don't even know how to drive) and whether I was armed or not I have never had any issues opposed to a few less intelligent or obstinate people I have known. In general I believe the u.s. is over policed, peace officers have been tasked with solving socioeconomic problems & public health problems that they should be burden with and worse yet, at some point cities started considering police budgets odious and pushing quotas became important- paying a police budget even if a city has no crime is still profilactic for the cities health. A police department should not be tasked with generating revenue to offset their operating costs, they should not be tasked to enforce narcotics prohibition &, jails should not be where we house psychiatric patients. All that being said if I do have have an interaction with law enforcement I remain calm and civil and the cops react in kind.
Philandro Castile didn't get such courteous treatment but he surely got a prompt execution for being armed while being unlawfully detained. In my opinion unless I'm asked I'm not volunteering any information. Barney fife can keep his in his holster and that's were mine will stay.
I shouldn't need to have a permit. I've taken the course and passed it but to have anyone approving me to have and I'm not a criminal no. Michigan's cops ask you about guns on a traffic stop,you don't need to answer that unless it's a criminal investigation. But, if have a carry permit whether I'm carrying or not ithen have to comply or tell the officer.
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@@adamhudak2155, after the officer runs the info of someone who looks and dresses like you and find out that he's a felon out on parole or on probation, only THEN should he come back and ask if you're armed?
I give the officer my driver’s license and my concealed permit both. One officer asked if I was carrying and I said yes. He asked where the gun was. I told him it was on my right hip. He said “you keep you gun holstered and I will keep mine holstered.” He let me off with a warning.
That’s your get out of jail free card. As long as you’re not commuting a felony, and let the officer know you are carrying, 9/10 times you’re gonna get let off with a warning. Same situation happened to me before
I was pulled over in Florida several years ago and I voluntarily informed the officer that I was legally armed. He didn't care, was very professional, and seemed to appreciate the courtesy. Most people are reasonable. Do the reasonable thing and usually we're all fine.
Are you white? ... Philando Castile had a legal carry and was murdered for doing exactly as he was told and yet Kyle Rittenhouse takes a rifle into a protest against cops, kills people, waives a rifle in front of cops who just flag him on by and he goes home that night. Rittenhouse gets a jury trial, where is Philando Castile's jury trial, what was his crime? He gets instant death sentence. Cops are Corrupt and Sadistic
🤣last time I was pulled over, License, registration, proof of insurance, and the other license. Deputy said he didn't need that last one. 😂He didn't care. Barely after 0400, he probably wanted to go home and I wanted to go fishing 👍
This video saved me from getting into trouble after I was pulled over for speeding on a quiet Sunday morning driving towards Burnet Tx. I am a member of an outdoor shooting range in Burnet. While driving at a lawful speed limit of 60 mph, I approached an area where the speed limit suddenly went from step down fixes from 60 to 30 mph in less than a mile. While listening to an audio book on the Apollo 11 Lunar landing, I noticed a flashing police car lights in my rear view mirror. I immediately pulled over into the right hand lane in order to allow the officer to pass me in order to attend his emergency. After I pulled into the right hand lane, the officer did the same. I now had notice that I was being pulled over. I pulled into a parking lot and presented the officer with my driver's license and my LTC, which is almost identical to my TX driver's license. After I presented both of my licenses, the police officer thanked me for producing both. Then I asked him if I was speeding. He said: "Yes, you were doing X mph in a 30 mph zone. He then thanked me for providing him with my LTC certificate. He asked me where I was going. I said: "I'm driving to the outdoor shooting range at "blank" park about 5 miles ahead. He asked me for my proof of insurance and I provided it to him. After he was convinced that I was not a criminal he smiled and said: "It's a Sunday morning and there is not a lot of traffic. The speed limit changes very rapidly from 60mph to 30 mph in a very short distance. So long as your driver's record is clear, I'm going to give you a warning". After making sure my record was clean he said to me: "have a nice day sir and be careful". I gave him a salute as he smiled at me. Now that is the epitome of "officer friendly" don't you think?
😂I was going to the bank at 4 something so that I could go fishing at sun up, that dude was on my butt. Ran a yellow got lit up. Had DL, registration, proof of ins and CC. Deputy handed me back CCL "I don't need that" Took the ticket and enjoyed the fishing
@@ScrappyXFL Well, I'm a senior citizen. Maybe the officer felt sorry for me because I have a son his age. I don't know why some officers will give warnings and others will write tickets. If I knew the answer to that, I'd be a millionaire. Hopefully you didn't get points against your license. Good luck and be well.
@@daffidavit Yea, it was registration (tax) I'm glad it wasn't points as well. Working my butt off, I said two years to the wife (about reregistering the truck), it got lost with the other stuff going on. Asked the deputy for a "fix it ticket", young man was plain it was over six months, he couldn't. 😂Even the deputies at the county courthouse helped me out. Took my money clip yet gave it back (small knife in it) they even went to find the dude I should hand the check to. Got told to sit while they figured out who. Relearning to walk sucks. Payed the fine, payed for re-registration. I want to blame her, won't though. Something sweet happened in paying the ticket. On my way back down the ramp I had to stop, a couple stopped and asked me if I needed help. Some humanity left in this world.
@@ScrappyXFL Yes there is still some humanity left in this world. I "hear" it more in Texas, but I don't necessarily see more of it in Texas. I just hear more of the respectful comments from Texas people. But I recently spent a week in my old home state of N.J. staying in Wayne, N.J. and I can honestly say that the people in N.J are no less honorable than the people in Texas. The only difference I can detect in Texas is that the People are more "vocally" willing to assist a person in need. But should a person in New Jersey fall down the steps going up to or down from a restaurant, all people are the same in any state. Most people will come to your rescue in a heart-beat.
@@daffidavit Some will, some won't, but your experience going to NJ gives me hope. NJ has a reputation... I'm an Eagle Scout, so my response is very ingrained from more than just my parents teaching. Very very nice to hear of NJ.
I've been stopped while legally carrying. The officer never asked if there were weapons in the car and I didn't volunteer (my state does not require that you notify the police officer that you are carrying). The officer gave me my well-deserved written warning for speeding and we both went on our ways.
Yeah, in my state I have to... and will gladly inform the officer I'm carrying, especially since they will find that out anyways if they run my personal info.
In my state it's not required and the fact you're licensed is not available to the officer running your info. Years back in the cc class, our instructor, a current police officer, said it wasn't required and he wouldn't advise doing it. Don't ask, don't tell, permit owners aren't the problem to LEOs.
Which states have Duty to inform: www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/terminology/general-terms/duty-to-inform/ Interestingly enough, Texas is a duty to inform state.
Getting my mom into guns. She lives in Florida and just went to her concealed carry class about 3 weeks ago. It's so weird because I grew up with guns but never knew how inexperienced she was. I had to get on to my own mom about trigger discipline at the shooting range 😂 Happy to say she is learning fast and doing great.
I just wandered back to this thread, and had to comment about our moms. Mine, she really never cared for guns in particular, but she never said anything negative toward them, knowing how much we boys liked our guns. Anyway, after many decades, Mom suddenly asked me one day if I could get her a gun to put "these big 'ol bullets in." Well, those big 'ol bullets were .22lr that my late father had left in a dresser drawer. 😆 Now, she was 83yo at this time - and I asked her why on earth would she want a gun? She never left the house, and others did her shopping for her. Come to find out, after a lot of prodding, she said was going to use it to shoot her sister, who had been living with her for the past five years, if she didn't stop being mean to her! 👀 Apparently, these two, mildly "early-dementia" octogenarians were butting heads most of the time, and needed some serious time-out from each other (they were the last two of my maternal side of the family). So, I ended up getting Mom a .357 and called it a day. No, just kidding; I was going to tell her that she didn't need a gun - because there were plenty of knives in the house, but I didn't do that either - I can just imagine the look on her face had I done so. 😄 However, I did promise her to try and see if I could get my aunt into her own place, in order to make peace between the two. I had to go through a ton of paperwork, but finally was able to get my aunt her own apartment in a senior living arrangement; she loved it and Mom was happy again. Aunt Gini died about a month of living on her own, but she was happy.
@@waynegroves6922 That's an outstanding story. And you told it so well, too! You have a good sense of humor and a great way with words. Well done, too, on behalf of your aunt and your mother. 🙂
@@ohdear2275 Thank you - I didn't intend for that to meander so long, but I suddenly felt the need to put it out there . . . they're both sitting here in the glass bookcase staring at me, so I'll probably catch some flak from Aunt Gini for not giving her a heads up about Mom someday.
@@waynegroves6922 I don't think so. 🙂 After all, you saved her life, you saved your family from scandal, and you saved your mom from prison! You got your Aunt Gini her own digs, at some trouble to you, and presumably, she died of natural causes. (Unless your Mom paid her a visit you don't know about). My mother's 81 and has dementia. The strange thing is, she's ALWAYS been crazy, saying and doing the most outrageous things. I mean from my youth! So we didn't know she had dementia. We just thought she was getting more extreme, eccentric, and outrageous the older she got. She lived alone with no one to check or challenge her behavior or question her "stories" anymore. I knew at least some of them weren't true, but she caused a great deal of confusion for others who didn't know her propensity for making things up, and sadly, she did some harm in family relationships. But this was not new, either, the stories just got easier to recognize as fiction. Well, 5 years ago, following a hospitalization for an unrelated issue, I took her to see her regular doctor. This was not a normal thing, for me to take her to her Dr's appointments, because she was independent, however, she was weak from her recent illness, so I took her that day. It was an outing like any other with her, in which I had the usual cringe moments over her behavior and words to me, to strangers, and to the people she knew. (She would talk to anyone anytime anywhere. Nothing new there. And she'd ALWAYS said whatever popped into her mind, the good, the astonishing, and the downright rude. She never had a filter between her thoughts and what came out of her mouth, unfortunately.) So it was just another normally tense outing with my "crazy" mother. Well, her Dr had been her Dr for 20 years and she saw him OFTEN. (She'd always been a hypochondriac, too.) During the appointment, he unexpectedly gave her the Q&A test which was a test for Alzheimer's. She did fine on math and money questions, having been a former bookkeeper, but I was shocked when she said it was 2009, because it was 2017! There were several other questions she got way wrong but that one stands out in memory. I was stunned. The diagnosis answered a LOT of questions but raised another: How long had she had it and we just didn't know? Thankfully, she hates guns and has no access to them. If I notice a change there, I will remember your story. I'm a Southerner (US). I recall hearing a saying many years ago. "People who aren't from the South hide their crazy relatives away. Southerners, however, put their crazy kin out on the front porch and just say they're "eccentric.'" When I was a teenager, some folks in my small town held a huge annual outdoor party which they called "Southern Insanity." It's all starting to make sense to me now.🤔
Favorite story, a friend (he was driving) and I were traveling in Georgia, both carrying. When Trooper came to the window my friend said "we are both carrying." His only response? "Don't show me yours and I won't show you mine." No other questions, comments, nothing. And no ticket.
I'm a OTR truck driver that carries everywhere I go... I don't get out of my truck without my weapon. I've been stopped several times and have always told the officer that I'm carrying and haven't had a problem so far. I believe that if you give respect, you get respect... and always do as the officer asks.
In my marginally educated opinion, when a law enforcement officer initiates a traffic stop, that officer wants and needs to establish the kind of person he or she is dealing with. My policy has always been: be calm, be patient, be pleasant. I always inform the officer if I am carrying and I share the location of the weapon. I have never had a bad experience. The occasion I remember best was when a Vermont state trooper pulled me over for speeding one night on I-89. I told him I was carrying in a shoulder holster. He asked what I was carrying. I told him the make and model. His response was, "Oh! Those are nice! I wish we were issued those!" He gave me a verbal warning.
In the state of Virginia, when they run your plates and/or license. Your CCW automatically comes up. In fact as an awesome community service, Henrico County Sheriff’s office held a seminar on “What To Except and How To React” several years ago. It was very insightful. Now that’s community policing.
North Carolina is the same, your Concealed Carry permit is tied to your Driver license in the database. When they run your license, the CWP also appears and will lead the officer to ask if you're carrying, although in NC you are required to declare it at the time of presenting both your CWP and NCDL. If you happen not to be carrying and don't show your permit, then they ask you. I've never had an officer ask me anything more than where in the vehicle the handgun is.
I'm from Virginia and it happened to me...the first question the policeman asked was if I had a weapon on myself or in the vehicle. I thought " Is this guy a psychic or something?" Didn't think of the possibility that they'd run my tags as a precaution.🙃
I keep my insurance and registration clipped to the visor so I can have them ready for the officer and I don't have to reach over to the glove box to dig them out. I have only been stopped one time while carrying. I informed the officer and his response was that he did not care that I had a firearm. Being polite and respectful goes a very long way during the stop. I was let go with just a warning and a "have a nice day, sir" from the officer.
Me too..........insurance and registration is attached to the visor ready to go. I was stopped by a State Trooper last night and he thanked me for having everything at the ready.
I'm 23 and fairly new to owning a firearm. My mom bought me a vehicle license and registration wallet with all my paperwork I clip to the visor of my car above my head. I also keep my wallet on the console if I'm driving with people I trust and put it back in my pocket when I'm getting out the car. Trying to be the safest I can be. In the process of getting my CCW/CHL.
I worked in law enforcement for a number of years in resource management and case analysis. My guys always appreciated the following and I do it every single time. Hands on top of the steering wheel. Dome lights blazing if in low light conditions. License, registration and insurance on the dash. Window ALL the way down. No sudden movements. Speak in an even and respectful tone. IF something they ask for is in the console, glove box or overhead compartments, I always tell them what I am doing and ask for their permission to proceed. If I am carrying a weapon on my person or anywhere in the vehicle I inform them and ask them how they would like to proceed. I'm a bit of a speed demon, but not reckless. I've been pulled over probably 10-15 times in the last 20 years and have yet to receive a written citation. Just my two cents.
I have always said “for our mutual safety I want to advise you I have a pistol on my right hip” while I hand them my ID and registration and CCW permit. I have never had an issue and the LEO’s have always thanked me and sent me on my way without a ticket
Here in SC when I get pulled over I give them my drivers license and my carry permit at the same time. Each time the officer asked me if I had a gun on me. I say yes sir, on my right hip. They say ok, thanks for letting me know. We usually end up talking guns when all said and done. Respect your LEO's and they will respect you...Keep America 2A Strong...
I was pulled over on I26 outside of Manning, SC by a State Trooper. It was my wife and I visiting from NC. Trooper came to my wife’s side of the car and advised me he pulled me over for speeding. With fingers out and both hands visible on the steering wheel, I informed him I had a firearm inside my drivers side door panel and asked him to give me specific instructions on what he wanted me to do. Trooper told me to remain like that and he would come over and secure my firearm. He came over and took it and the kydex holster it was in back to his cruiser and processed the stop. He came back and issued me a warning citation and returned the gun inside a ziplock bag: slide back, magazine out, and magazine completely emptied with all the rounds loose in the bag. I kinda just chuckled to myself. I thanked him for the warning as I knew I was clearly speeding. He then let us on our way. Odd thing is, since 1995 when I got my CCW i’ve had at least 10-15 personal interactions with LEOs while CCing. Not once did any of those LEOs even ask to see the firearm. I just told them I was armed and where it was and asked what they wanted me to do. Each and every one of them replied “thanks for letting me know” and proceeded with their investigation. I think this Trooper could have been a Probie as there was still another troopers in the cruiser. Either way, he did what made him feel safe and that’s all that matters.
@gae To be honest prob only 5 times in 10 years. All for dark tint on my Corvette. Have had guns all my life and have many friends who are LEO's thus my actions when I get pulled. BTW never got a tint ticket and believe me it's way over limit. I think my actions and respect for the officer was the reason...**Keep America 2A Strong**
I love the question of "do you have any weapons in the vehicle". My thought is yes! "I have a car, a pen, a jack handle, a fire extinguisher, usually a pistol, my fists...all of these are weapons. Maybe a better question is "do you have any firearms in the vehicle"...because most everything is a weapon in capable hands.
I used to think like that but if you look at your state law, there is definition of "weapon" that that usually includes firearms, knives, etc. but may include other items. How you use a tool (a firearm is a tool) determines whether it is or is not a weapon.
Kenosha here. The few times I've been pulled over, since getting my concealed carry license, I always hand my driver's license and carry license as soon as the officer gets to the window. That has gone perfectly fine each time.
@@tweeked267 No? I learned if you have any official contact with police in WI it is required by law to inform them that you're carrying concealed. I could be wrong, as I've had my license for 8 years.
@@tweeked267 I Califonicate they already know by your plate and you have to state so although the first words out of their mouth is were is your firearm?
@@tweeked267 I looked into it a little after replying and it appears you're correct. I still think it's best practice to just hand over both immediately. That takes the guesswork out of it for them and opens up a good conversation in my experience.
As a former OTR trucker I learned that polite and respectful go a long, long way with "almost" any LEO and I have had hundreds of encounters with officers from border guards down to municipal police and county weighmasters. I never carried due to the maze of rules between different jurisdictions and international borders but the precautions you laid out in this video are spot on.
As a former OTR driver myself I did carry!! Detroit Chicago KC Nashville Cleveland StLouis, thankfully I NEVER needed it, but I wasn't going without it
I agree with everything you guys said and I support. When I got pulled over I gave the officers my wallet he saw I had my CCL and FOID card and asked do I have any firearms in the car I told him yes. He asked where it was I said the glove compartment. He asked me to slowly get it I told him I would like it if I can get out the car have his partner watch me while he get it himself. It was unloaded with the safety on. It’s all about communication.
I got stopped years ago in Virginia when I lived there, we had just came out of the woods and I had a 30-06 and a 243 700 BDL in the rack in the back window. I also had 2 handguns in the passenger seat. Toyota pickup. Came around the corner and the county had a normal roadblock setup. When it came my turn even though he could see the rifles in the back window rack, I stuck my head out the window and told him I had 2 more on the seat he couldn’t see. He said “ok”, thanks. He came to the truck looked thru the window at them, asked for license and all. I gave it to him, he turned his back to me, went back to the car and ran my license. Came back to the truck and in the end he had the 700 BDL in his hand looking thru the scope because he said he always wanted one, loved it and never got around to buying one. He checked it out, handed it back to me, I put it back in the window rack, he said thanks for telling me when he was walking up the first time I had more and let me go on thru and on my way. I would rather not surprise anyone with a badge and a gun I had more then he did. I see no issues with letting him know. I would not want to be surprised and had nothing to hide!
Thank you for your reply. Blue Lives Matter and I would not do anything to cause anxiety. LEOs have enough to worry about with the criminal population.
Many years ago before our state had CC ..I was pulling my boat to the Lake with a truck full of skiers. I had a firearm beside me on the seat ..that looked like a Uzi...we came upon a licence check, and I immediately told the Trooper I had a firearm beside me...he just ignored me ..checked my driver's license and said he wanted to go with us...as I started to drive away ..he said Thanks for letting me know about the gun... This was before half the country was indoctrinated to panic at the word "firearm"
Philando Castile had a legal carry and was murdered for doing exactly as he was told and yet Kyle Rittenhouse takes a rifle into a protest against cops, kills people, waives a rifle in front of cops who just flag him on by and he goes home that night. Rittenhouse gets a jury trial, where is Philando Castile's jury trial, what was his crime? He gets instant death sentence. Cops are Corrupt and Sadistic
3:50 is exactly the reason not to inform. I'd rather not be rewarded for my honesty by being treated like a suspected criminal: i.e. being disarmed, risking an accidental discharge in the process, then getting my weapon back (likely at least partially disassembled) only after being proven innocent when there was no suspected crime to begin with. Second to being locked in a safe, in my holster is the safest place for my firearm to be; I'd rather it just stay where it's at, thanks.
Have absolutely no attachment to my gun, while at the same time it's my baby. Having shot and killed someone in a home invasion you quickly learn to not get attached to them as they will confiscate them then no matter what.
@@geneclemetson4779 A weapon in plain sight complicates the situation. I think in that case I would inform, since they can see it, and offer to exit the vehicle to complete the traffic stop. I would also request for the weapon to remain secured in it's place, but I would expect that request to be denied. As to the home-made firearm... IDK
I was pulled over once, had my CCL on me with a .45 in my shoulder holster and a .9mm tucked between the seat and console. After the officer approached and introduced himself, explained the stop and asked for ID n such, I immediately announced I was carrying and had my CCL, told him about both firearms, and not once did they ask to see them, make me step out, etc. He just thanked me and as we proceeded, he asked if they were chambered, because some states I believe don't allow it to be chambered, and I said yes they both are. He smiled and simply told me "good deal, what good is an unloaded gun if you need it, right?" He gave me a warning on the stop cause I was barely speeding n was a super cool guy.
Got pulled over by Washington State Patrol a few years back while carrying. Trooper saw my permit and asked if I was carrying, I gripped the steering and said "yes, on my right hip inside my waste band, do you want to hold onto it while you run my info?" He said sure and asked me to place it on the passenger seat. I said "I'd rather not touch it in your presence, do you mind taking it from the holster?" He said sure, reached in through the passenger side door and took it. Afterwards he let me off with a warning (speeding) returned my unloaded glock 20 and mag then politely sent me on my way. Thats how I handle this kind of situation now. The safer they feel, the safer I am.
I’m from Wisconsin also. I have been pulled over once with a firearm in the car. It was less than a week after I purchased the firearm. I did not have a concealed carry permit. I informed the officer that I had a pistol in the car and it’s location. I was unclear about traveling with a firearm in the car being an open carry state. I was asked to step out they took the gun to check it like you mentioned. We had a discussion about proper ways to carry while driving being an open carry state and I was let off with a warning and returned the gun after the stop. I have since got my concealed carry. Most situations if won’t be a problem if you talk to them respectfully and calmly.
I just went through training in Michigan. We were basically told once you have a license to carry it is somehow tagged to your license so once they run your license they will know that you have a concealed carry license.
The one and only time I've been stopped it was at night and I looked and pulled over under a street light. I turned on my interior lights and when the trooper came to my window I started the conversation with "before we go any farther I have a ccw and I do have a weapon on my right hip, how do you want to handle this?" His response was "you keep yours holstered and I'll keep mine holstered." I said sounds like a good deal to me. After explaining I was on an emergency run to Walmart to get coffee for my wife he laughed and told me to hurry and get the coffee to her. He shook my hand and told me to have a nice night. I feel that the attitude you give greatly influences the attitude of the officer.
The day after I applied for my concealed carry permit here in Minnesota, I was pulled over. The first thing the officer said was" I see that someone who drives this car has a CCW is there a weapon in this car". I didn't even have the permit yet. So apparently they can gather information quite quickly. The officer was very professional and kind and just gave me a warning. I kept my hands at 10 and 2, and had my dome light on before she got there and no I did not have a weapon in the car.
@@not-from-here I live in Minnesota too and know the permit is tied to your driver's license. You had not received it yet but they had probably already processed your permit and you just had not received it in the mail yet. That is my guess because they are quick to add it to the system but the administrative stuff like printing your card, mailing it etc. takes some time. I got my permit in the mail in like a week from when I applied.
Roll the windows down,turn the interior lights on after dark keep both hands clearly visible and remain calm and respectful. In 62 years it’s never been a problem! Don’t start none,won’t be none!
Same hear, with the added that the first thing I do is shut off the engine: If the engine's off, LE knows I can't suddenly romp on the gas pedal to tear off.
Now I understand not all police officers will do this. But in my experience every time I have been pulled over, I have always been respectful, letting the police officers know I do have concealed weapon, even if they don’t ask. I always have also let them have my weapon when the ask with no opposition. And every time I have always been thanked and let go with just a warning.
One thing I’ve found that’s just helpful to me and the officer is I keep my insurance and registration up on my visor so they can have a better field of view of my hands. And my license/wallet out of my pockets when I carry just to keep the tension down and don’t have to make movements in a place that my weapon would be. Very helpful video gentleman, thanks for the content.
The two times i have been stopped by a sheriff's Deputy here in Florida, I gave them my concealed carry license with the other documents needed. Each time the officers thanked me for giving them the respect and courtesy of informing them I was legally armed.
In Utah, we are not required to notify the officer if we're carrying. I was pulled over once for speeding in a school zone. We had a pleasant conversation, he sent me on my way with a warning and all was well. I will never say a word about my concealed weapon unless I am legally searched.
I love the police in my area. Was pulled over for my tags a few months ago, told the officer i was armed, told him where it was, and asked if he wanted to hold on to it while he ran my DL (assuming he would) and was told "how bout you keep yours where yours is at, and I'll keep mine where mine's at". Few minutes later, no ticket, just "have a good night".
I’ve been pulled over once or twice with my firearm in the center console. I also as soon as I get pulled over shut off the car except 4 ways, turn on interior lights if it’s dark, roll down the window, and get all my info out and have my hands on the steering wheel. I’ve been asked if I had a firearm and I’ve answered honestly that yes I do, he asked where it was, I said center console. He’s asked to see my CCP and I handed that along with my car info. He’s never asked me to see it or take it out just don’t reach for the console. I’ve always answered honestly and politely and have just gotten away with a warning.
I'm a member of the USCCA and have an enhanced concealed carry license and I do my best to keep up with and follow all the laws. I've learned a lot after becoming a member of the USCCA.
@@Csawllc depends on the state. Just means you can open and concealed carry, at least how it works in most states. Some states allow you to do both without a license.
It's very simple to me. Regardless of the laws, first thing I do is say, before I move, I want you to know I have a loaded firearm that I do have a license to carry. Ive been treated with nothing but respect and even thanked profusely for doing so. I've even offered the officers to take the gun so they're comfortable or to get out of the vehicle away from the firearm if they are more comfortable. Never had a problem. Mutual respect
Missouri resident here! I always give my license, both drivers and concealed to the officer or sheriff. I wait for them to ask. If they do? I say where the firearm is. They never give me any issues! Just speeding tickets lol.
If it’s a lawful stop (traffic infraction, tail light) I’ll cooperate fully. But once I present my CWP and disclosure I’m carrying a firearm, why would I need to hand it over for a serial check?
100% correct!! It's total BS! If I have a computer on the front seat. Does a cop run a check to see if it's stolen??? Of Course Not! The fact is, and statistics prove this. People with CCP's are FAR more law abiding then LEO's!
Reaching for my gun so the LEO can run the serial number is a high tension moment for us. I can be shot for reaching for my legally obtained/purchased gun. I do not want to give my gun to any LEO due to this scenario.
Yea......Surrendered my Firearm once to LEO an have a CCL.to run serial #s. Tense Bullshit.....F**k That...I'm not Surrendering my Lawful Firearm to Mr. Hair Trigger, LEO.....To make him feel better......While his partner has his hand on his Firearm.. Too Dangerous........
By law you do not have to hand your gun to the officer period. Keep it hidden on you and hand them the Permit and Drivers License. If he ask you to go for your gun he’s breaking the law and that is actually endangering you both. Be very polite and ask to speak to his supervisor at that point. I would NEVER touch my gun near an officer. I’m NOT anti Police either, have the highest respect for Officers. Yet I ain’t getting shot by a rookie scared lol
Louisiana is an open carry state. And you have to notify officers if your carrying. I've never had any problems with officers while I open carry. I'm always respectful, and the officers I've encountered have been professional. I find they show you the same respect you show them.
@@untergleetongouten-globin150 FYI I'm from Gretna, was homeless at 19 on Decatur, I've never had a problem with NOPD. I open carry in the quarter every time I'm there. I'm in the city at least once a month.
My concealed carry permit instructor gave what I thought was some pretty good advice on this matter. He said alongside your driver's license hand them your concealed carry permit and that will let them know and then they can ask if you're carrying. Otherwise if you tell them you are carrying it has the potential to come out as "I've got a gun!" I thought this advice was pretty brilliant
I'm a FL resident. We have a duty to inform there. However I spend a lot of time in VA where there is no such law. However for me I always said that I would let them know first thing. I feel like it keeps myself safer and the officer safer. I just don't want to be in the position where I don't tell the officer and for some reason I'm printing or my shirt comes up. That immediately changes the officers response. Also, when others have talked about their experiences If they tell the officer about their firearm typically they end up not getting a ticket. lol
I always keep my hands on 10 and 2 and always let the officer know I have the weapon. Never had a problem ever and officer has always appreciated the info.
There's no duty to inform. He said legally he CAN disarm you for the safety of both involved. While I say that is a stupid law, if you don't tell, and they don't ask, no one gets disarmed. Stay out of Madison & Milwaukee and you should be fine. - A Milwaukee resident.
I've been a USCCA member for about 6 months now, after dumping US Law Shield that my wife signed up for not understanding the false protection they promised. That being said, I love USCCA! Training videos, supplemental information, and content like this is what makes a difference. I did 10 years in the infantry, four and a half years in Iraq, and I've been a CCW holder for almost 10 years now. No matter what, I have always chose to disclose to the officer few occasions I was pulled that I was armed. I live in Tennessee where you don't have to have a CCW permit to carry in your vehicle, however, I feel safer when I disclose everything to the officer up front. I do not want any miscommunication whatsoever. I've never had an issue, and I back the blue!
Recently got stopped in TX with a tx LTC while carrying, kept my hands on the wheel. Told the trooper I had an LTC and it was on me and all my id and vehicle insurance was in the sun visor. All he said "that's fine. You don't reach for yours I won't reach for mine" He asked me about what I carry and what the state gave him and after a few minutes he came back with a warning and commended me on my honesty, and advised me to continue carrying because he pulls over a lot of people with licenses that don't use them. It was a very respectful and calm interaction. I'm definitely a lot less nervous of an interaction like this going forward. Clear and honest communication settles everyone's nerves.
Happened to me about 20 years ago. I immediately informed the officer that i had a loaded gun in my purse. I have conceal permit. It was no issue. He thanked me for the info
As a concealed carry permit holder, I feel that it's just being courteous to the officer to let them know I am armed. The few times I've been stopped for a traffic violation, I find this puts the officer at ease. They don't know who I am, or what I may have been involved in. I try and put myself in their shoes.
I'm in my 1st year of concealed carry Haven't had any issues with law enforcement However I believe it is only wit's only wise to inform the officer sir that I am armed This great video by the way
I put both hands on the wheel, if it’s dark on turn on the interior light as I’m pulling over, then I do nothing until I’m asked. I keep my ins and reg on the visor above the drivers seat. When asked for my DL, I then inform them it’s in my wallet, I have a CCW and a loaded gun on me. If it’s not in my pocket it’s never an issue anyway, if it is, I move when instructed, very slowly to get past my gun to my wallet. Nearly every time I’ve been pulled I’ve been let off with a warning when they see my CCW and non argumentative demeanor. They relax when they know you are licensed to carry and they know where the weapon is. That’s been my experience for many years now.
I live in Alabama and when I got my CCP I asked the Sheriff's deputy at the courthouse what to do if I got pulled over while carrying and he told me to show the officer my permit along with my license and answer any questions he or she may have. I've been pulled over/stopped a few times now while carrying and I did just that with zero problems....one guy once told me, after asking if I had a gun and I answered in the affirmative, "well, you dont show me yours and I wont show you mine." We both chuckled and I told him that sounded pretty good to me and things went on just fine.
I was pulled over in Oklahoma and handed the officer my CCW permit with my drivers license. He asked what I was carrying, and I told him it was a 9mm. He then asked what kind, and (being rather on edge) I couldn't recall the model, but told him it was a Ruger. He said that was good, and he hated it when people went to the trouble to get a CCW permit and carried a cheap weapon; then he let me off with a verbal warning. Can't say for sure that there was a cause-and-effect, but that may be the only time I was given preferential treatment by the police for carrying a firearm. Then again, it is (thus far) the only time I have been pulled over while carrying.
TX: We can travel in a vehicle with guns without having a CCL. Was pulled over one night by Sheriff's Officer for running a stop sign in the county, he asked if I had a gun and I told him where it was (center console), he said to not go reaching for it when he went back to his SUV to check my ID and insurance. No sweat, no strain, no problems an he was nice enough to just give me a warning.
In NC also. Gave him license, CCW license & registration. Didn't ask me if I was carrying. We didn't talk about guns. But I got a damn speeding ticket 🤬
@@roseblite6449 in Fl we can have it in a vehicle without a CCW also. Sometimes I don’t have it on my person but in the console or the seat next to me under a shirt or jacket. It’s never been an issue either way, but I have been asked to step out before they went back to their car for their own piece of mind. No problem, I get it .
In WA state they know before they approach you whether you’re a CCW permit holder. I keep my ID, ins/reg and permit out in case I get pulled over..in which as I hand him those ID’s I tell him the location of firearm…keeping my hands on steering wheel where he can see them. A tip for nighttime is to turn on your interior light so the LEO can see inside your car as they are approaching…keeping hands visible on steering wheel.
I place it on the dash disassembled and ask if they would like to take it during the stop. In missouri their first words are usually asking if there is anything inside of the vehicle that could be used to harm them. If I am transporting a gun that cannot be disassembled quickly then it is usually kept out of reasonable reach when possible (little hard to do in an el camino).
I had my hands on the steering wheel as the PO approached me for speeding...and I was...I told him I was carrying, had a permit and the gun was on my right hip, near my wallet. I let him know I would do whatever he needed to feel safe. He had me use my left hand to un-hook my seatbelt. He opened the door. I got out slowly and he disarmed me and had me give him my license and registration at that point. After citing me for being "stupid", lol. he thanked me for how I handled the situation and cooperated with him.
I've been pulled over a few times. Each time I told the officer that I had a firearm. Only 1 actually disarmed me. The rest where calm and was happy I told them. And things went smooth. All about staying calm and courteous. If you act nervous they will sense it
@@beybladeguru101 true. I've been pulled over by a state trooper, city cop and county. The county cop disarmed me. Really would a criminal tell an officer if he was carrying. If I didn't tell him he wouldn't have known cause it was on my side away from his view but I do things within the law. Kept my hands on the wheel. Told him I was carrying and then he opened my door. Reached around me and got it out of my holster. Took it to his car and I'm guessing was running the serial number. All legal and all good. Gave it back and left
I legally conceal carry in Alabama, I’ve been pulled over one time and I immediately notified the officer as soon as he got to my window while handing him my licenses. No problems at all, all he did was place my firearm (which was in a vehicle mount) on my roof while he ran my information. Even waited for a cover officer to arrive so i could retrieve it after everything was finished. Whole process took maybe 10-15 minutes out of my day. It’s only a problem when you have ill intentions.
A good friend of mine said this. Keep your hands through the steering wheel and on the dash until instructed by the officer to get your license and proof of insurance. The officer should appreciate your effort in displaying your intent to keep you both from harm.
This is a great group! I have been a member of USCCA since 2013 and they treat me like a friend everytime I call or chat with them. I highly recommend joining this group for your peace of mind in case the most terrible thing ever occurs! Join this group as well as the NRA and your local or state clubs that represent the millions of legal gun owners in the USA!
law inforcement should never be able to take someones fire arm from them when the stop has nothing to do with a suspected firearm crime. At 4:00 If I lived in wisconsin I would rent wisconsin out and live in hell for the reason of being unlawfully disarmed "the RIGHT to KEEP and BEAR arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
@@richardscarlett7942 learn two things: How to spell and RESPECT for our Friends refereed to as Law Enforcement, sorry, you are NOT as Smart as you think, actually you are nothing but what we refer to as a "Want to Be" Barney Fife
I've been pulled over twice since having my CCW. I live in Ohio and I always have everything ready before the officer comes to the window. I hand him my CCW and license and registration at the same time with my ccw on top. After handing him all that they ask where the firearm is and it's always on my hip, I keep my hands on the wheel for the duration of the stop unless told otherwise. Both times the officers were glad I had a CCW and how I conducted myself.
I’m in Southeastern PA and one time had an officer tell me at the end of the stop “next time you get pulled over, tell the officer you have a firearm”. I responded, “is that the law that i have to inform you?” He said “no”. So i told him “well then i don’t have to tell you anything”. He started going on and on about how i should. Anytime I’m pulled over I’m super polite with all my info at the ready and keys on the dash board. He then went on to screw me over and tell me a ticket was taken care of when it wasn’t.
So far, I've never had an issue with officer interaction after first handing my carry license over along with my driver's license. As a matter of fact, I was shot at in a road rage incident. When I made contact with the officers, I was open and concealed carrying. They commended me for carrying and not once did they bother me about being armed while in their presence.
The thing with the glove compartment happened to me on a traffic stop. The officer asked for my proof of insurance which I had in the g.c. but also in there was my .38 revolver. I told him my insurance card was in my g.c. but that I also had a firearm in there (I heard somewhere that it's best not to say "gun"). First thing he did was thank me for alerting him to that fact. Then he said he was gonna walk around and take it out so I unlocked that side, he reached in and took it out then while leaning in the car, pulled it out of the holster and remarked "nice little Smith & Wesson". He took it back to his cruiser to check it out then after a few minutes came back and put it back where he got it. He walked back to my side and said he wasn't gonna write me up this time (he had been stopped for speeding) but for me to be careful. Of course I was very polite and thanked him for that and told him I would most certainly watch my speed from now on. We shook hands and he thanked me again for letting him know about the gun. I would like to think that most officers are like this one; as long as you're polite and cooperative everything will be fine. I related that story on FB and an anti-gun friend said "so he didn't ticket you because you had a gun?". I remarked back to her that I believed he didn't ticket me because I had been honest with him about the situation. She didn't say anything after that.
@@robertstack2144 Huh? It’s just mutual respect. Put yourself in the police officer’s shoes. They just want to feel comfortable with the situation. The littlest of things go a long way and deescalate the encounter from the beginning. The cop’s guard is immediately up because they have no idea who they could be dealing with.
@@bren.r you are OK with the cop seizing the firearm and taking it back to ck out if its stolen? Definetly a forth amendment violation. Again the cop now violated the person.
Here in good ol Idaho you don't need to inform officers. I've only been pulled over once, and it was after I had just gotten a new car and didn't realize my lights didn't come on automatically. I was pretty nervous since I didn't know what I did when the police lights came on but the officer was so friendly and respectful and we ended up casual chatting for a good while. I asked her as an officer if she thought it was better to inform even tho we don't have to. And she told me "Well its Idaho, so I assume everyone has 2-3 guns on them or in their car. As long as you don't draw a weapon we won't draw ours " Idaho also has constitutional carry so as long as your 18 you can carry without a license.
First off, thank you for the great information! My personal thought on it is that if an officer pulls me over for something (I don't speed or willfully break traffic laws, so it's very rare anyway), I will let him know I'm a licensed concealed carrier, and I'll tell him where on my body the gun is. I always have my pertinent vehicle information easy to reach as well, so I don't have to be digging around for it. That's just common sense. I have the utmost respect for the police (yes, I know there are some bad apples) and treat them accordingly. Their job is hard enough without me making it more difficult. As Tom said, it's up to you how you wish to proceed, and it really behooves us all who are CCW to know the laws of our respective states. Stay safe out there!
I was told by a LEO that the best thing to do was get out your info before the LEO gets there. Keep both hands on the wheel and inform him/her that you are armed. This alleviates many inadvertent misunderstandings. I wasn't armed at the time (worked at a prison and could not have a firearm on the premises, even locked in your vehicle), and I never gave him my CCW. It came up when he checked my license.
Through my 50 years of driving (about 45 of them as an armed citizen) I have been pulled over numerous times. Never been asked (would answer honestly if I were) and never volunteered that I was armed. Never had a problem. Say yes sir, no sir, take the ticket and be on your way.
Just wondering, why does the officer have the right to take the firearm and run the serial number to see if it has been stolen? If I have a laptop in the car or an expensive camera, do you take those to your vehicle and run the numbers? Wondered what the case law came from. thanks.
Probably because it's a *privilege* to own a firearm (kinda like how it's a privilege to drive a car), whereas owning a laptop isn't. Gotta make sure you have that privilege I guess.
Thank you uscca for these in good videos. And also stand up for the law enforcement agencies in your neighborhood. You never know when you might need a police officer to help you when you're in need. God bless the USA in the first and second amendment
You shouldn’t ever need an officers help, that is what the 2nd admendment is for, “foriegn and *domestic* threats” leo’s are just that “law” “enforcement” “officer” there job is not to protect but to enforce.
In Oregon, my CHL is tied to my ODL, so LEO's know that I'm a licensed concealed carry permit holder. I've only been asked once during a traffic stop if I was carrying, and I said I wasn't (gun was in the Smith's shop for annual maintenance), and everything went smoothly afterwards. Great advice, mostly common sense, but some state's laws are rather odd when it comes to concealed carry. Oregon is a pretty lax state when it comes to gun laws, but still require a CHL if the weapon is easily obtainable by the owner, and not within visible sight.
Been pulled over a number of times in PA and once in NY. Never been asked, never volunteered that I had firearms. I never understood why people unnecessarily complicate the traffic stop if not legally required to. I also keep my insurance/registration in the door side pocket and my wallet sits in the center console. That way I can have all my info in hand in 30 seconds before the cop even exits his car and I never show myself as making weird movements that could cause suspicion.
OK, I've not been pulled over for YEARS so this next comment is based on my direct questions to LEO (on & off duty) on this same topic. The general answer is along the same lines that Kevin just covered EXCEPT when directed to hand over my DL & POI, I would also include my CCW permit as well (assuming the LEO has not already asked about weapons in the vehicle). Also, NEVER EVER say the words "...I have a gun..."! There are many other ways that the same conversation can be started without saying those dreaded words. Just my $0.02.
I say at the initial interaction, “ before we go any further officer, I want to let you know I’m a legal conceal carrier and I do have my firearm on me at so and so position.”
Many times, by many different police officers (including Uncle Mass) I've been counseled to: Roll down my windows, turn the car off, put the keys on the dash, turn on the dome light, and have license, reg, and proof of insurance ready for the officer. Also to keep my hands at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel. If the officer asks me to step out of the vehicle (this has never happened yet), then I will inform him I will obey his instructions and also that I have a CPL and am carrying concealed.
I was pulled over for a third brake light being out. Before the officer even let out his first word, I kindly informed him I am armed with a pistol on my hip. When he asked for my ID, I let him see my pistol as I reached around it for my wallet. He thanked me for letting him know, and just let me of with a warning. No issues.
Great content. Two days ago someone tried to car jack me at the cemetery. I was fortunate to fight him off with minor injuries but wish I had my ccw. Crazy times we live in. Be safe and cautious everyone.
5:20 yeah, reaching for the waistband is a huge pre-attack indicator. I once heard a cop say that when a suspect hikes up the waistband, he's either getting ready to fight or getting ready to run away.
"I do as a law enforcement officer, in a lawful law enforcement contact, have the right to take your firearm and take it back to my car and run the serial number and see if it's been listed stolen anywhere." 1. My firearm is the safest it will ever be right where it is with no one touching it...I promise it won't go off unless someone touches it. 2. I will give you mine for your safety, if you give me yours for my safety...the SCOTUS has ruled that you, as a LEO, have NO duty to protect me, so that responsibility falls on me. If you remove my defensive tool, I loose that ability. If I felt like I could trust LEO's to protect me I wouldn't be carrying a defensive tool in the first place. 3. Doesn't the 4th amendment prevent a traffic officer from "searching" personal effects that are outside of plain view without a warrant? A firearm in a holster that covers the serial number (most, if not all) would require you to take specific action to make that serial number visible. He even said he's never come across a legal CCW holder with a stolen firearm, so what's the likelyhood? 4. Running the numbers to see if it's stolen anywhere...doesn't that equate to guilty until proven innocent? This also puts my defensive tool into a criminal database.
I agree with everything you said, but... Texas has "probable cause" which throws the 4th amendment out the window. When WBush signed executive order Patriot Act it was about 90% based on Texas law, so the 4th amendment now only applies in court if Law Enforcement oversteps their boundries.
@@JustLikeHeaven77 All states have "probable cause". Having a defensive tool is not illegal and therefore no there is no PC. PC has to do with the belief that a crime has been, is being, or was about to be committed. Also, to go along with it, they must have Reasonable, articulable Suspicion. Articulate to me why the mere possession of a defensive tool equates to having committed or about to commit a crime.
I live in nv I’m a security officer I just picked up my first sidearm yesterday a Taurus G3 and out of all the days I got stopped I have my sidearm on me for the first day and it was from my plate tags expired and these cops were amazing I informed them when they asked I pointed out where my sidearm is and he asked if he could open the door and move it to the backseat I said yes officer he thanked me for being honest and cooperative with them and I said of course informed them I’m a security officer and we had pleasant chat the experienced officer was giving tips and advice for my first sidearm and dos and don’ts and even though it was my first interaction with a cop with a sidearm I was pleased with how it went!
In Illinois, the minute the officer runs your license, this pops up on his/her screen. However my interaction with LE and being pulled over has been limited in my 50+ years of driving. Carried for many years. 48 States and Canada. Might have been strictly illegal, but.....Only ONE moving violation in my lifetime and 30+ years driving a semi.....NEVER a DOT Preventible accident. Respect gets respect!
In my experience I have learned that being polite and unthreatening to a law enforcement officer will always save you from any headaches. And definitely be familiar with the local laws; stick to the black and white and don't push your luck with the grey area.
LE are there for our protection. I am going to give them my professional respect. If I get pulled over it's because of something I did, and have to own it. I would definitely tell them from the start that I have a CCW on my person. If I am asked for DL, registration, insurance. I would tell them first where they are. Then proceed carefully. Especially if I discern they are new at there job.
My last stop was at night. I turned on the dome light and placed my hands on the steering wheel. The officer must have thought, "Whoa, this guy knows the drill!"
I'm a CPL holder and I drive a 2002 Chevy Suburban, when I get pulled over I make it a point to roll down all my windows and turn on all the interior lights, this gives the Officer plenty of area to view everything. Whether it does any good I haven't been told but it makes me feel good knowing I made it easier on the Officer and puts him/her at ease.
I have input on courtesy no matter the situation…..whether someone is armed or not. I haven’t had a speeding ticket in almost 22 years. But I’ve been pulled over plenty. I say hello with my hands on the wheel and don’t do anything until asked. I have all proper documents when asked and I hand them to the officer. I admit to my speeding, apologize and let them know I have no excuse. I state I simply was not paying attention to my speed. It has worked, for me. I give respect, and then the officer gives it back.
I'm in wi I open carry currently myself I just haven't taken the time to get my conceal carry but definitely will he researching where a ccw class is knowledge is true power if properly used
Note to self, never travel to (and definitely never move to) Wisconsin...the "right to take your firearm in a lawful traffic stop"?! Thats some serious BS that, at the very least, blurs and walks the line of violating at least a couple rights if not flat out tramples on them (no matter how temporary it might be). And if your LEO and actually pull that $#!+ seriously question your oath as it pertains to upholding the constitution, not just what your state "allows." I support and am grateful for every constitutional LEO out there, oathbreakers on the other hand need to get a different job (cough CIATFBI).
I’ve never had mine taken. It just gets said, “Don’t go for yours and I won’t go for mine”. Kevin is exactly right, they must tell officers to go with that.
This literally happened 2 nights ago. Gave my license and interrupted them before they approached car and said I'm a CCP holder and have 2 guns at the x position. They were very grateful for the info. While we were waiting we talked about our guns
Is a motorist required to answer that question "Do you have any weapons in the car?" Nope....unless it's a duty to report state. Also, taking someone's gun to check serials is likewise unconstitutional during a traffic stop. Bummer you cops don't realize this and keep your oaths.
100% Correct!!!! Always ask, "Will I be arrested if I don't allow you to run the serial number?" If he say's yes. You can then take legal action against him for violating you're Constitutional Rights!
I live in MA, and I've been pulled over for speeding ( I used to drive a modified turbo BMW with a leaden foot), and as soon as they run your tag, the system tells them you have a CCW. Honestly I feel it's safer, because they know. Last time it happened, the gentleman simply asked me "are you carrying a firearm on yourself or in the vehicle?" (also, in MA, you are required to disclose if asked). I was not carrying, but had to think for a second because I had one in a box in the trunk earlier in the day. He was courteous, and so was I and we ended up having a pleasant conversation and he let me off with a verbal warning (my veteran tags probably helped).
VOTE: What's your favorite carry position while traveling?
Pocket carry.
Roof mounted.
Same as when I walk around, appendix carry
3 o'clock (hip)
Center Console.
I am a LEO in Oklahoma. When I make traffic stops and someone hands me their conceal carry card or tells me they have a gun in the vehicle, I tell them all the same thing, "We are in Oklahoma. I would be disappointed if you aren't carrying a firearm."
If I am not mistaken, we are a constitutional carry state right? But regardless if I were to be pulled over, I would inform the officer that I am armed and where the firearm is located
I was LE in AZ for 25 years, and I assumed EVERYONE had weapons. Those that did, we had lengthy conversations. The strangest ones were when guys had a weapon but there wasn’t one in the chamber. They always told me, I can rack a round quickly. 🤦🏻♀️
@@KM-zu9we they might as well have told you they were carrying a club. LOL
Thank you for your service. I am from Oklahoma and wanting to be in LEO field.
You sound like a straight liar we can carry with no training no permit no nothing over 21 and you don’t need nothing! Also if you don’t ask we do not have to tell in Oklahoma but most cops start with that lol
In my 30+ years of LE service, I've never given a ticket to a legally armed CCF permit holder who advised me at the start of the traffic stop that they were armed. I usually thanked them for giving me the courtesy of letting me know that they're armed. I then issued them a verbal or written warning and bidded them a good rest of the day or night.
That is exactly the perspective that makes for a legitimate civil service career, I have on a few occasions been stopped both while on foot & in a vehicle (as a passenger cause I don't even know how to drive) and whether I was armed or not I have never had any issues opposed to a few less intelligent or obstinate people I have known.
In general I believe the u.s. is over policed, peace officers have been tasked with solving socioeconomic problems & public health problems that they should be burden with and worse yet, at some point cities started considering police budgets odious and pushing quotas became important-
paying a police budget even if a city has no crime is still profilactic for the cities health.
A police department should not be tasked with generating revenue to offset their operating costs, they should not be tasked to enforce narcotics prohibition &, jails should not be where we house psychiatric patients.
All that being said if I do have have an interaction with law enforcement I remain calm and civil and the cops react in kind.
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Philandro Castile didn't get such courteous treatment but he surely got a prompt execution for being armed while being unlawfully detained. In my opinion unless I'm asked I'm not volunteering any information. Barney fife can keep his in his holster and that's were mine will stay.
I shouldn't need to have a permit. I've taken the course and passed it but to have anyone approving me to have and I'm not a criminal no. Michigan's cops ask you about guns on a traffic stop,you don't need to answer that unless it's a criminal investigation. But, if have a carry permit whether I'm carrying or not ithen have to comply or tell the officer.
@@adamhudak2155, after the officer runs the info of someone who looks and dresses like you and find out that he's a felon out on parole or on probation, only THEN should he come back and ask if you're armed?
I give the officer my driver’s license and my concealed permit both. One officer asked if I was carrying and I said yes. He asked where the gun was. I told him it was on my right hip. He said “you keep you gun holstered and I will keep mine holstered.” He let me off with a warning.
See this is y unless getting searched it’s on need to kno basis I don’t say anything till then
That’s your get out of jail free card. As long as you’re not commuting a felony, and let the officer know you are carrying, 9/10 times you’re gonna get let off with a warning. Same situation happened to me before
Hi, I have 8 CCW permits. What can I do for you today?
I have had very similar experiences
@ron stone5 Why?
I was pulled over in Florida several years ago and I voluntarily informed the officer that I was legally armed. He didn't care, was very professional, and seemed to appreciate the courtesy.
Most people are reasonable. Do the reasonable thing and usually we're all fine.
Are you white? ... Philando Castile had a legal carry and was murdered for doing exactly as he was told and yet Kyle Rittenhouse takes a rifle into a protest against cops, kills people, waives a rifle in front of cops who just flag him on by and he goes home that night. Rittenhouse gets a jury trial, where is Philando Castile's jury trial, what was his crime? He gets instant death sentence. Cops are Corrupt and Sadistic
🤣last time I was pulled over, License, registration, proof of insurance, and the other license. Deputy said he didn't need that last one. 😂He didn't care. Barely after 0400, he probably wanted to go home and I wanted to go fishing 👍
Key word : usually -
You must be a white guy
Yeah this doesn't work if your a man of color.
This video saved me from getting into trouble after I was pulled over for speeding on a quiet Sunday morning driving towards Burnet Tx. I am a member of an outdoor shooting range in Burnet. While driving at a lawful speed limit of 60 mph, I approached an area where the speed limit suddenly went from step down fixes from 60 to 30 mph in less than a mile. While listening to an audio book on the Apollo 11 Lunar landing, I noticed a flashing police car lights in my rear view mirror. I immediately pulled over into the right hand lane in order to allow the officer to pass me in order to attend his emergency. After I pulled into the right hand lane, the officer did the same. I now had notice that I was being pulled over. I pulled into a parking lot and presented the officer with my driver's license and my LTC, which is almost identical to my TX driver's license.
After I presented both of my licenses, the police officer thanked me for producing both. Then I asked him if I was speeding. He said: "Yes, you were doing X mph in a 30 mph zone.
He then thanked me for providing him with my LTC certificate. He asked me where I was going. I said: "I'm driving to the outdoor shooting range at "blank" park about 5 miles ahead. He asked me for my proof of insurance and I provided it to him. After he was convinced that I was not a criminal he smiled and said: "It's a Sunday morning and there is not a lot of traffic. The speed limit changes very rapidly from 60mph to 30 mph in a very short distance. So long as your driver's record is clear, I'm going to give you a warning".
After making sure my record was clean he said to me: "have a nice day sir and be careful". I gave him a salute as he smiled at me. Now that is the epitome of "officer friendly" don't you think?
😂I was going to the bank at 4 something so that I could go fishing at sun up, that dude was on my butt. Ran a yellow got lit up. Had DL, registration, proof of ins and CC. Deputy handed me back CCL "I don't need that" Took the ticket and enjoyed the fishing
@@ScrappyXFL Well, I'm a senior citizen. Maybe the officer felt sorry for me because I have a son his age. I don't know why some officers will give warnings and others will write tickets. If I knew the answer to that, I'd be a millionaire. Hopefully you didn't get points against your license. Good luck and be well.
@@daffidavit Yea, it was registration (tax) I'm glad it wasn't points as well. Working my butt off, I said two years to the wife (about reregistering the truck), it got lost with the other stuff going on. Asked the deputy for a "fix it ticket", young man was plain it was over six months, he couldn't. 😂Even the deputies at the county courthouse helped me out. Took my money clip yet gave it back (small knife in it) they even went to find the dude I should hand the check to. Got told to sit while they figured out who. Relearning to walk sucks. Payed the fine, payed for re-registration. I want to blame her, won't though.
Something sweet happened in paying the ticket. On my way back down the ramp I had to stop, a couple stopped and asked me if I needed help. Some humanity left in this world.
@@ScrappyXFL Yes there is still some humanity left in this world. I "hear" it more in Texas, but I don't necessarily see more of it in Texas. I just hear more of the respectful comments from Texas people. But I recently spent a week in my old home state of N.J. staying in Wayne, N.J. and I can honestly say that the people in N.J are no less honorable than the people in Texas. The only difference I can detect in Texas is that the People are more "vocally" willing to assist a person in need. But should a person in New Jersey fall down the steps going up to or down from a restaurant, all people are the same in any state. Most people will come to your rescue in a heart-beat.
@@daffidavit Some will, some won't, but your experience going to NJ gives me hope. NJ has a reputation... I'm an Eagle Scout, so my response is very ingrained from more than just my parents teaching. Very very nice to hear of NJ.
I've been stopped while legally carrying. The officer never asked if there were weapons in the car and I didn't volunteer (my state does not require that you notify the police officer that you are carrying). The officer gave me my well-deserved written warning for speeding and we both went on our ways.
Great example, both parties went home unharmed ! People love to over complicate situations nowadays
Yeah, in my state I have to... and will gladly inform the officer I'm carrying, especially since they will find that out anyways if they run my personal info.
You don't need to disclose in Wisconsin either.
In my state it's not required and the fact you're licensed is not available to the officer running your info. Years back in the cc class, our instructor, a current police officer, said it wasn't required and he wouldn't advise doing it. Don't ask, don't tell, permit owners aren't the problem to LEOs.
Which states have Duty to inform: www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/terminology/general-terms/duty-to-inform/
Interestingly enough, Texas is a duty to inform state.
Getting my mom into guns. She lives in Florida and just went to her concealed carry class about 3 weeks ago.
It's so weird because I grew up with guns but never knew how inexperienced she was. I had to get on to my own mom about trigger discipline at the shooting range 😂
Happy to say she is learning fast and doing great.
I'm glad you're teaching her.
I just wandered back to this thread, and had to comment about our moms. Mine, she really never cared for guns in particular, but she never said anything negative toward them, knowing how much we boys liked our guns. Anyway, after many decades, Mom suddenly asked me one day if I could get her a gun to put "these big 'ol bullets in." Well, those big 'ol bullets were .22lr that my late father had left in a dresser drawer. 😆 Now, she was 83yo at this time - and I asked her why on earth would she want a gun? She never left the house, and others did her shopping for her. Come to find out, after a lot of prodding, she said was going to use it to shoot her sister, who had been living with her for the past five years, if she didn't stop being mean to her! 👀
Apparently, these two, mildly "early-dementia" octogenarians were butting heads most of the time, and needed some serious time-out from each other (they were the last two of my maternal side of the family). So, I ended up getting Mom a .357 and called it a day. No, just kidding; I was going to tell her that she didn't need a gun - because there were plenty of knives in the house, but I didn't do that either - I can just imagine the look on her face had I done so. 😄 However, I did promise her to try and see if I could get my aunt into her own place, in order to make peace between the two. I had to go through a ton of paperwork, but finally was able to get my aunt her own apartment in a senior living arrangement; she loved it and Mom was happy again. Aunt Gini died about a month of living on her own, but she was happy.
@@waynegroves6922 That's an outstanding story. And you told it so well, too! You have a good sense of humor and a great way with words. Well done, too, on behalf of your aunt and your mother. 🙂
@@ohdear2275 Thank you - I didn't intend for that to meander so long, but I suddenly felt the need to put it out there . . . they're both sitting here in the glass bookcase staring at me, so I'll probably catch some flak from Aunt Gini for not giving her a heads up about Mom someday.
@@waynegroves6922 I don't think so. 🙂 After all, you saved her life, you saved your family from scandal, and you saved your mom from prison! You got your Aunt Gini her own digs, at some trouble to you, and presumably, she died of natural causes. (Unless your Mom paid her a visit you don't know about).
My mother's 81 and has dementia. The strange thing is, she's ALWAYS been crazy, saying and doing the most outrageous things. I mean from my youth! So we didn't know she had dementia. We just thought she was getting more extreme, eccentric, and outrageous the older she got. She lived alone with no one to check or challenge her behavior or question her "stories" anymore. I knew at least some of them weren't true, but she caused a great deal of confusion for others who didn't know her propensity for making things up, and sadly, she did some harm in family relationships. But this was not new, either, the stories just got easier to recognize as fiction.
Well, 5 years ago, following a hospitalization for an unrelated issue, I took her to see her regular doctor.
This was not a normal thing, for me to take her to her Dr's appointments, because she was independent, however, she was weak from her recent illness, so I took her that day.
It was an outing like any other with her, in which I had the usual cringe moments over her behavior and words to me, to strangers, and to the people she knew. (She would talk to anyone anytime anywhere. Nothing new there. And she'd ALWAYS said whatever popped into her mind, the good, the astonishing, and the downright rude. She never had a filter between her thoughts and what came out of her mouth, unfortunately.)
So it was just another normally tense outing with my "crazy" mother.
Well, her Dr had been her Dr for 20 years and she saw him OFTEN. (She'd always been a hypochondriac, too.)
During the appointment, he unexpectedly gave her the Q&A test which was a test for Alzheimer's. She did fine on math and money questions, having been a former bookkeeper, but I was shocked when she said it was 2009, because it was 2017! There were several other questions she got way wrong but that one stands out in memory.
I was stunned. The diagnosis answered a LOT of questions but raised another: How long had she had it and we just didn't know?
Thankfully, she hates guns and has no access to them. If I notice a change there, I will remember your story.
I'm a Southerner (US). I recall hearing a saying many years ago. "People who aren't from the South hide their crazy relatives away. Southerners, however, put their crazy kin out on the front porch and just say they're "eccentric.'"
When I was a teenager, some folks in my small town held a huge annual outdoor party which they called "Southern Insanity." It's all starting to make sense to me now.🤔
Favorite story, a friend (he was driving) and I were traveling in Georgia, both carrying. When Trooper came to the window my friend said "we are both carrying." His only response? "Don't show me yours and I won't show you mine." No other questions, comments, nothing. And no ticket.
I'm a OTR truck driver that carries everywhere I go... I don't get out of my truck without my weapon.
I've been stopped several times and have always told the officer that I'm carrying and haven't had a problem so far. I believe that if you give respect, you get respect... and always do as the officer asks.
Abt to go to school to get my cdl, is it alright to carry on the road as long as the magazine is not in the handgun? No permit atm
@@Hentai_W_Senpai going to vary by state. If you live in NY, NJ, IL, etc good luck getting permit. If you carry anyway, that's another story.
@@Hentai_W_Senpai you should consult an attorney, not TH-cam commenters.
Don’t get stopped in NY, NJ, MD and certainly not a California.
In my marginally educated opinion, when a law enforcement officer initiates a traffic stop, that officer wants and needs to establish the kind of person he or she is dealing with. My policy has always been: be calm, be patient, be pleasant. I always inform the officer if I am carrying and I share the location of the weapon. I have never had a bad experience. The occasion I remember best was when a Vermont state trooper pulled me over for speeding one night on I-89. I told him I was carrying in a shoulder holster. He asked what I was carrying. I told him the make and model. His response was, "Oh! Those are nice! I wish we were issued those!" He gave me a verbal warning.
In the state of Virginia, when they run your plates and/or license. Your CCW automatically comes up. In fact as an awesome community service, Henrico County Sheriff’s office held a seminar on “What To Except and How To React” several years ago. It was very insightful. Now that’s community policing.
North Carolina is the same, your Concealed Carry permit is tied to your Driver license in the database. When they run your license, the CWP also appears and will lead the officer to ask if you're carrying, although in NC you are required to declare it at the time of presenting both your CWP and NCDL. If you happen not to be carrying and don't show your permit, then they ask you. I've never had an officer ask me anything more than where in the vehicle the handgun is.
Same as ky
yikes, glad my state doesn't require its citizens to be on a registry
I'm from Virginia and it happened to me...the first question the policeman asked was if I had a weapon on myself or in the vehicle. I thought " Is this guy a psychic or something?" Didn't think of the possibility that they'd run my tags as a precaution.🙃
@@DAV1979 I have 1st hand knowledge it does come up when running plates. Officer knew before I even said anything.
I keep my insurance and registration clipped to the visor so I can have them ready for the officer and I don't have to reach over to the glove box to dig them out. I have only been stopped one time while carrying. I informed the officer and his response was that he did not care that I had a firearm. Being polite and respectful goes a very long way during the stop. I was let go with just a warning and a "have a nice day, sir" from the officer.
Me also and I pull my wallet before they get there then put my hands on the wheel.
@W. Dearth to me it just makes you wise and speeds things up--keeping a calm situation calm seems desirable!
Me too..........insurance and registration is attached to the visor ready to go. I was stopped by a State Trooper last night and he thanked me for having everything at the ready.
I do that or at least know where my driver’s license & registration is. Proof of insurance is with reg if needed.
I'm 23 and fairly new to owning a firearm. My mom bought me a vehicle license and registration wallet with all my paperwork I clip to the visor of my car above my head. I also keep my wallet on the console if I'm driving with people I trust and put it back in my pocket when I'm getting out the car. Trying to be the safest I can be. In the process of getting my CCW/CHL.
I worked in law enforcement for a number of years in resource management and case analysis. My guys always appreciated the following and I do it every single time. Hands on top of the steering wheel. Dome lights blazing if in low light conditions. License, registration and insurance on the dash. Window ALL the way down. No sudden movements. Speak in an even and respectful tone. IF something they ask for is in the console, glove box or overhead compartments, I always tell them what I am doing and ask for their permission to proceed. If I am carrying a weapon on my person or anywhere in the vehicle I inform them and ask them how they would like to proceed. I'm a bit of a speed demon, but not reckless. I've been pulled over probably 10-15 times in the last 20 years and have yet to receive a written citation. Just my two cents.
The first half of that procedure sounds like the tone and cadence I’d have if I were trying to keep my wife calm in an argument.
I have always said “for our mutual safety I want to advise you I have a pistol on my right hip” while I hand them my ID and registration and CCW permit. I have never had an issue and the LEO’s have always thanked me and sent me on my way without a ticket
Here in SC when I get pulled over I give them my drivers license and my carry permit at the same time. Each time the officer asked me if I had a gun on me. I say yes sir, on my right hip. They say ok, thanks for letting me know. We usually end up talking guns when all said and done. Respect your LEO's and they will respect you...Keep America 2A Strong...
I was pulled over on I26 outside of Manning, SC by a State Trooper. It was my wife and I visiting from NC. Trooper came to my wife’s side of the car and advised me he pulled me over for speeding. With fingers out and both hands visible on the steering wheel, I informed him I had a firearm inside my drivers side door panel and asked him to give me specific instructions on what he wanted me to do. Trooper told me to remain like that and he would come over and secure my firearm. He came over and took it and the kydex holster it was in back to his cruiser and processed the stop. He came back and issued me a warning citation and returned the gun inside a ziplock bag: slide back, magazine out, and magazine completely emptied with all the rounds loose in the bag. I kinda just chuckled to myself. I thanked him for the warning as I knew I was clearly speeding. He then let us on our way. Odd thing is, since 1995 when I got my CCW i’ve had at least 10-15 personal interactions with LEOs while CCing. Not once did any of those LEOs even ask to see the firearm. I just told them I was armed and where it was and asked what they wanted me to do. Each and every one of them replied “thanks for letting me know” and proceeded with their investigation. I think this Trooper could have been a Probie as there was still another troopers in the cruiser. Either way, he did what made him feel safe and that’s all that matters.
@gae To be honest prob only 5 times in 10 years. All for dark tint on my Corvette. Have had guns all my life and have many friends who are LEO's thus my actions when I get pulled. BTW never got a tint ticket and believe me it's way over limit. I think my actions and respect for the officer was the reason...**Keep America 2A Strong**
What's a Leo?
@@josephliptak Hey Joseph it's the universal term for Law Enforcement Officer... Remember... **Keep America 2A Strong**
I love the question of "do you have any weapons in the vehicle". My thought is yes! "I have a car, a pen, a jack handle, a fire extinguisher, usually a pistol, my fists...all of these are weapons. Maybe a better question is "do you have any firearms in the vehicle"...because most everything is a weapon in capable hands.
Pretty cool you have a car in your vehicle.
I have a pencil. My name is John Wick.
I used to think like that but if you look at your state law, there is definition of "weapon" that that usually includes firearms, knives, etc. but may include other items. How you use a tool (a firearm is a tool) determines whether it is or is not a weapon.
I once saw Jack Reacher kill three people with a pencil.
Or you could have taken a cue from one-liner stand up comic Steven Wright and said, “What do you need?”. :)
Kenosha here. The few times I've been pulled over, since getting my concealed carry license, I always hand my driver's license and carry license as soon as the officer gets to the window. That has gone perfectly fine each time.
Me also, out before they get there so no reaching. They already know in Cali when they run your plate.
Wisconsin doesn’t require disclosure unless specifically asked about your permit.
Just an FYI.
@@tweeked267 No? I learned if you have any official contact with police in WI it is required by law to inform them that you're carrying concealed. I could be wrong, as I've had my license for 8 years.
@@tweeked267 I Califonicate they already know by your plate and you have to state so although the first words out of their mouth is were is your firearm?
@@tweeked267 I looked into it a little after replying and it appears you're correct. I still think it's best practice to just hand over both immediately. That takes the guesswork out of it for them and opens up a good conversation in my experience.
As a former OTR trucker I learned that polite and respectful go a long, long way with "almost" any LEO and I have had hundreds of encounters with officers from border guards down to municipal police and county weighmasters. I never carried due to the maze of rules between different jurisdictions and international borders but the precautions you laid out in this video are spot on.
As a former OTR driver myself I did carry!! Detroit Chicago KC Nashville Cleveland StLouis, thankfully I NEVER needed it, but I wasn't going without it
I agree with everything you guys said and I support. When I got pulled over I gave the officers my wallet he saw I had my CCL and FOID card and asked do I have any firearms in the car I told him yes. He asked where it was I said the glove compartment. He asked me to slowly get it I told him I would like it if I can get out the car have his partner watch me while he get it himself. It was unloaded with the safety on. It’s all about communication.
I got stopped years ago in Virginia when I lived there, we had just came out of the woods and I had a 30-06 and a 243 700 BDL in the rack in the back window. I also had 2 handguns in the passenger seat. Toyota pickup. Came around the corner and the county had a normal roadblock setup. When it came my turn even though he could see the rifles in the back window rack, I stuck my head out the window and told him I had 2 more on the seat he couldn’t see. He said “ok”, thanks. He came to the truck looked thru the window at them, asked for license and all. I gave it to him, he turned his back to me, went back to the car and ran my license. Came back to the truck and in the end he had the 700 BDL in his hand looking thru the scope because he said he always wanted one, loved it and never got around to buying one. He checked it out, handed it back to me, I put it back in the window rack, he said thanks for telling me when he was walking up the first time I had more and let me go on thru and on my way. I would rather not surprise anyone with a badge and a gun I had more then he did. I see no issues with letting him know. I would not want to be surprised and had nothing to hide!
Thank you for your reply. Blue Lives Matter and I would not do anything to cause anxiety. LEOs have enough to worry about with the criminal population.
Many years ago before our state had CC ..I was pulling my boat to the Lake with a truck full of skiers. I had a firearm beside me on the seat ..that looked like a Uzi...we came upon a licence check, and I immediately told the Trooper I had a firearm beside me...he just ignored me ..checked my driver's license and said he wanted to go with us...as I started to drive away ..he said Thanks for letting me know about the gun... This was before half the country was indoctrinated to panic at the word "firearm"
A truck full of people and nobody was sitting in the front seat?
Philando Castile had a legal carry and was murdered for doing exactly as he was told and yet Kyle Rittenhouse takes a rifle into a protest against cops, kills people, waives a rifle in front of cops who just flag him on by and he goes home that night. Rittenhouse gets a jury trial, where is Philando Castile's jury trial, what was his crime? He gets instant death sentence. Cops are Corrupt and Sadistic
3:50 is exactly the reason not to inform. I'd rather not be rewarded for my honesty by being treated like a suspected criminal: i.e. being disarmed, risking an accidental discharge in the process, then getting my weapon back (likely at least partially disassembled) only after being proven innocent when there was no suspected crime to begin with. Second to being locked in a safe, in my holster is the safest place for my firearm to be; I'd rather it just stay where it's at, thanks.
Exactly. If you want, look at the two questions I posed above in my comment.
Have absolutely no attachment to my gun, while at the same time it's my baby. Having shot and killed someone in a home invasion you quickly learn to not get attached to them as they will confiscate them then no matter what.
@@geneclemetson4779 A weapon in plain sight complicates the situation. I think in that case I would inform, since they can see it, and offer to exit the vehicle to complete the traffic stop. I would also request for the weapon to remain secured in it's place, but I would expect that request to be denied. As to the home-made firearm... IDK
"likely at least partially disassembled" Yet another argument for carrying revolvers.
Exactly my feelings… extremely invasive infringement. No freaking way.
I was pulled over once, had my CCL on me with a .45 in my shoulder holster and a .9mm tucked between the seat and console. After the officer approached and introduced himself, explained the stop and asked for ID n such, I immediately announced I was carrying and had my CCL, told him about both firearms, and not once did they ask to see them, make me step out, etc. He just thanked me and as we proceeded, he asked if they were chambered, because some states I believe don't allow it to be chambered, and I said yes they both are. He smiled and simply told me "good deal, what good is an unloaded gun if you need it, right?" He gave me a warning on the stop cause I was barely speeding n was a super cool guy.
Got pulled over by Washington State Patrol a few years back while carrying. Trooper saw my permit and asked if I was carrying, I gripped the steering and said "yes, on my right hip inside my waste band, do you want to hold onto it while you run my info?" He said sure and asked me to place it on the passenger seat. I said "I'd rather not touch it in your presence, do you mind taking it from the holster?" He said sure, reached in through the passenger side door and took it. Afterwards he let me off with a warning (speeding) returned my unloaded glock 20 and mag then politely sent me on my way. Thats how I handle this kind of situation now. The safer they feel, the safer I am.
We're nursing their feelings now lol. Sad times in America where people like you tell our children to fear the government
@@VeryWilder I just like not getting shot by a nervous cop.
I’m from Wisconsin also. I have been pulled over once with a firearm in the car. It was less than a week after I purchased the firearm. I did not have a concealed carry permit. I informed the officer that I had a pistol in the car and it’s location. I was unclear about traveling with a firearm in the car being an open carry state. I was asked to step out they took the gun to check it like you mentioned. We had a discussion about proper ways to carry while driving being an open carry state and I was let off with a warning and returned the gun after the stop. I have since got my concealed carry. Most situations if won’t be a problem if you talk to them respectfully and calmly.
Why? I googled it and took me 2 seconds. DO you know when or when you can't use your weapon? I doubt it.
I just went through training in Michigan. We were basically told once you have a license to carry it is somehow tagged to your license so once they run your license they will know that you have a concealed carry license.
My dad was a sheriff for Waukesha county and he was also in the army and we should be thankful for their service
The one and only time I've been stopped it was at night and I looked and pulled over under a street light. I turned on my interior lights and when the trooper came to my window I started the conversation with "before we go any farther I have a ccw and I do have a weapon on my right hip, how do you want to handle this?" His response was "you keep yours holstered and I'll keep mine holstered." I said sounds like a good deal to me. After explaining I was on an emergency run to Walmart to get coffee for my wife he laughed and told me to hurry and get the coffee to her. He shook my hand and told me to have a nice night. I feel that the attitude you give greatly influences the attitude of the officer.
The day after I applied for my concealed carry permit here in Minnesota, I was pulled over. The first thing the officer said was" I see that someone who drives this car has a CCW is there a weapon in this car". I didn't even have the permit yet. So apparently they can gather information quite quickly. The officer was very professional and kind and just gave me a warning. I kept my hands at 10 and 2, and had my dome light on before she got there and no I did not have a weapon in the car.
This happened to me twice before I got a CCL and both times I believe these cops were trying to trick me into admitting I had a firearm in the car!
@@hubriswonk I never thought of it that way, thanks for your comment. It could have been a Massive coincidence.
@@not-from-here I live in Minnesota too and know the permit is tied to your driver's license. You had not received it yet but they had probably already processed your permit and you just had not received it in the mail yet. That is my guess because they are quick to add it to the system but the administrative stuff like printing your card, mailing it etc. takes some time. I got my permit in the mail in like a week from when I applied.
That's odd, I didn't know it shows up as registered to the vehicle you drive here in Minnesota.
Before I applied for CC least in my state twice I was pulled over
Roll the windows down,turn the interior lights on after dark keep both hands clearly visible and remain calm and respectful. In 62 years it’s never been a problem! Don’t start none,won’t be none!
Unless Officer Numbnuts is out looking to show his "manliness" by killing an (insert denotation here) .
Same hear, with the added that the first thing I do is shut off the engine: If the engine's off, LE knows I can't suddenly romp on the gas pedal to tear off.
Now I understand not all police officers will do this. But in my experience every time I have been pulled over, I have always been respectful, letting the police officers know I do have concealed weapon, even if they don’t ask. I always have also let them have my weapon when the ask with no opposition. And every time I have always been thanked and let go with just a warning.
One thing I’ve found that’s just helpful to me and the officer is I keep my insurance and registration up on my visor so they can have a better field of view of my hands. And my license/wallet out of my pockets when I carry just to keep the tension down and don’t have to make movements in a place that my weapon would be. Very helpful video gentleman, thanks for the content.
I am always 100 percent honest with an officer. For their safety, respect of the officer and my safety.
The two times i have been stopped by a sheriff's Deputy here in Florida, I gave them my concealed carry license with the other documents needed. Each time the officers thanked me for giving them the respect and courtesy of informing them I was legally armed.
In Utah, we are not required to notify the officer if we're carrying. I was pulled over once for speeding in a school zone. We had a pleasant conversation, he sent me on my way with a warning and all was well. I will never say a word about my concealed weapon unless I am legally searched.
I love the police in my area. Was pulled over for my tags a few months ago, told the officer i was armed, told him where it was, and asked if he wanted to hold on to it while he ran my DL (assuming he would) and was told "how bout you keep yours where yours is at, and I'll keep mine where mine's at".
Few minutes later, no ticket, just "have a good night".
I’ve been pulled over once or twice with my firearm in the center console. I also as soon as I get pulled over shut off the car except 4 ways, turn on interior lights if it’s dark, roll down the window, and get all my info out and have my hands on the steering wheel. I’ve been asked if I had a firearm and I’ve answered honestly that yes I do, he asked where it was, I said center console. He’s asked to see my CCP and I handed that along with my car info. He’s never asked me to see it or take it out just don’t reach for the console. I’ve always answered honestly and politely and have just gotten away with a warning.
I'm a member of the USCCA and have an enhanced concealed carry license and I do my best to keep up with and follow all the laws. I've learned a lot after becoming a member of the USCCA.
“Enhanced” concealed carry? What does that mean? If there is a higher level then I am very interested.
@@Csawllc depends on the state. Just means you can open and concealed carry, at least how it works in most states. Some states allow you to do both without a license.
It's very simple to me. Regardless of the laws, first thing I do is say, before I move, I want you to know I have a loaded firearm that I do have a license to carry. Ive been treated with nothing but respect and even thanked profusely for doing so. I've even offered the officers to take the gun so they're comfortable or to get out of the vehicle away from the firearm if they are more comfortable. Never had a problem. Mutual respect
Missouri resident here! I always give my license, both drivers and concealed to the officer or sheriff. I wait for them to ask. If they do? I say where the firearm is. They never give me any issues! Just speeding tickets lol.
If it’s a lawful stop (traffic infraction, tail light) I’ll cooperate fully. But once I present my CWP and disclosure I’m carrying a firearm, why would I need to hand it over for a serial check?
100% correct!! It's total BS! If I have a computer on the front seat. Does a cop run a check to see if it's stolen???
Of Course Not! The fact is, and statistics prove this. People with CCP's are FAR more law abiding then LEO's!
Reaching for my gun so the LEO can run the serial number is a high tension moment for us. I can be shot for reaching for my legally obtained/purchased gun. I do not want to give my gun to any LEO due to this scenario.
Yea......Surrendered my Firearm once to LEO an have a CCL.to run serial #s. Tense Bullshit.....F**k That...I'm not Surrendering my Lawful Firearm to Mr. Hair Trigger, LEO.....To make him feel better......While his partner has his hand on his Firearm.. Too Dangerous........
Cops that do that are oathbreakers.
By law you do not have to hand your gun to the officer period. Keep it hidden on you and hand them the Permit and Drivers License. If he ask you to go for your gun he’s breaking the law and that is actually endangering you both. Be very polite and ask to speak to his supervisor at that point. I would NEVER touch my gun near an officer. I’m NOT anti Police either, have the highest respect for Officers. Yet I ain’t getting shot by a rookie scared lol
Louisiana is an open carry state. And you have to notify officers if your carrying. I've never had any problems with officers while I open carry. I'm always respectful, and the officers I've encountered have been professional. I find they show you the same respect you show them.
Try that decency and respect thing with the NOPD and they will curb stomp you. They attack other cops. They have always been a goon squad.
@@untergleetongouten-globin150 FYI I'm from Gretna, was homeless at 19 on Decatur, I've never had a problem with NOPD. I open carry in the quarter every time I'm there. I'm in the city at least once a month.
My concealed carry permit instructor gave what I thought was some pretty good advice on this matter. He said alongside your driver's license hand them your concealed carry permit and that will let them know and then they can ask if you're carrying. Otherwise if you tell them you are carrying it has the potential to come out as "I've got a gun!" I thought this advice was pretty brilliant
I'm a FL resident. We have a duty to inform there. However I spend a lot of time in VA where there is no such law. However for me I always said that I would let them know first thing. I feel like it keeps myself safer and the officer safer. I just don't want to be in the position where I don't tell the officer and for some reason I'm printing or my shirt comes up. That immediately changes the officers response. Also, when others have talked about their experiences If they tell the officer about their firearm typically they end up not getting a ticket. lol
I always keep my hands on 10 and 2 and always let the officer know I have the weapon. Never had a problem ever and officer has always appreciated the info.
Wow! I'll never move to, or live in, Wisconsin! God Bless Texas!!
Here in rural PA we are not obligated to tell them.
But what about their cheese?
You just show your permit and they tell you to keep it holstered.
There's no duty to inform. He said legally he CAN disarm you for the safety of both involved. While I say that is a stupid law, if you don't tell, and they don't ask, no one gets disarmed. Stay out of Madison & Milwaukee and you should be fine. - A Milwaukee resident.
@@keithgrandstaff6343 if the ask you have to tell, right?
I've been a USCCA member for about 6 months now, after dumping US Law Shield that my wife signed up for not understanding the false protection they promised. That being said, I love USCCA! Training videos, supplemental information, and content like this is what makes a difference. I did 10 years in the infantry, four and a half years in Iraq, and I've been a CCW holder for almost 10 years now. No matter what, I have always chose to disclose to the officer few occasions I was pulled that I was armed. I live in Tennessee where you don't have to have a CCW permit to carry in your vehicle, however, I feel safer when I disclose everything to the officer up front. I do not want any miscommunication whatsoever. I've never had an issue, and I back the blue!
Did you even read the USCCA contract…?
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Your comment should have stated that you back some of the blue since a lot of today's cops are abusive pricks
What was the issue? That’s currently who I have and would like to know what I am dealing with. Thanks
Recently got stopped in TX with a tx LTC while carrying, kept my hands on the wheel. Told the trooper I had an LTC and it was on me and all my id and vehicle insurance was in the sun visor. All he said "that's fine. You don't reach for yours I won't reach for mine" He asked me about what I carry and what the state gave him and after a few minutes he came back with a warning and commended me on my honesty, and advised me to continue carrying because he pulls over a lot of people with licenses that don't use them. It was a very respectful and calm interaction. I'm definitely a lot less nervous of an interaction like this going forward. Clear and honest communication settles everyone's nerves.
Happened to me about 20 years ago. I immediately informed the officer that i had a loaded gun in my purse. I have conceal permit. It was no issue. He thanked me for the info
As a concealed carry permit holder, I feel that it's just being courteous to the officer to let them know I am armed. The few times I've been stopped for a traffic violation, I find this puts the officer at ease. They don't know who I am, or what I may have been involved in. I try and put myself in their shoes.
I'm in my 1st year of concealed carry Haven't had any issues with law enforcement However I believe it is only wit's only wise to inform the officer sir that I am armed This great video by the way
I put both hands on the wheel, if it’s dark on turn on the interior light as I’m pulling over, then I do nothing until I’m asked.
I keep my ins and reg on the visor above the drivers seat. When asked for my DL, I then inform them it’s in my wallet, I have a CCW and a loaded gun on me. If it’s not in my pocket it’s never an issue anyway, if it is, I move when instructed, very slowly to get past my gun to my wallet. Nearly every time I’ve been pulled I’ve been let off with a warning when they see my CCW and non argumentative demeanor.
They relax when they know you are licensed to carry and they know where the weapon is.
That’s been my experience for many years now.
I live in Alabama and when I got my CCP I asked the Sheriff's deputy at the courthouse what to do if I got pulled over while carrying and he told me to show the officer my permit along with my license and answer any questions he or she may have. I've been pulled over/stopped a few times now while carrying and I did just that with zero problems....one guy once told me, after asking if I had a gun and I answered in the affirmative, "well, you dont show me yours and I wont show you mine." We both chuckled and I told him that sounded pretty good to me and things went on just fine.
I was pulled over in Oklahoma and handed the officer my CCW permit with my drivers license. He asked what I was carrying, and I told him it was a 9mm. He then asked what kind, and (being rather on edge) I couldn't recall the model, but told him it was a Ruger. He said that was good, and he hated it when people went to the trouble to get a CCW permit and carried a cheap weapon; then he let me off with a verbal warning. Can't say for sure that there was a cause-and-effect, but that may be the only time I was given preferential treatment by the police for carrying a firearm. Then again, it is (thus far) the only time I have been pulled over while carrying.
NC: We have to tell them if we are concealed carrying legally. Every one that has pulled me over has been cool about it, we end up talking about guns.
TX: We can travel in a vehicle with guns without having a CCL. Was pulled over one night by Sheriff's Officer for running a stop sign in the county, he asked if I had a gun and I told him where it was (center console), he said to not go reaching for it when he went back to his SUV to check my ID and insurance. No sweat, no strain, no problems an he was nice enough to just give me a warning.
I'm Im NC Also. NEVER Had a Problem With Law Enforcement Knowing I Was Carrying. Same Here We End Up Talking About Guns.
FL: only if asked by the LEO for permit holders.
In NC also. Gave him license, CCW license & registration. Didn't ask me if I was carrying. We didn't talk about guns. But I got a damn speeding ticket 🤬
@@roseblite6449 in Fl we can have it in a vehicle without a CCW also. Sometimes I don’t have it on my person but in the console or the seat next to me under a shirt or jacket. It’s never been an issue either way, but I have been asked to step out before they went back to their car for their own piece of mind. No problem, I get it .
I like how the lawyer said that it’s up to the individual beyond the legal requirements.
I’m extremely thankful I stumbled on this channel. Thank you guys. Stay safe officer.
In WA state they know before they approach you whether you’re a CCW permit holder. I keep my ID, ins/reg and permit out in case I get pulled over..in which as I hand him those ID’s I tell him the location of firearm…keeping my hands on steering wheel where he can see them. A tip for nighttime is to turn on your interior light so the LEO can see inside your car as they are approaching…keeping hands visible on steering wheel.
I place it on the dash disassembled and ask if they would like to take it during the stop. In missouri their first words are usually asking if there is anything inside of the vehicle that could be used to harm them.
If I am transporting a gun that cannot be disassembled quickly then it is usually kept out of reasonable reach when possible (little hard to do in an el camino).
I had my hands on the steering wheel as the PO approached me for speeding...and I was...I told him I was carrying, had a permit and the gun was on my right hip, near my wallet. I let him know I would do whatever he needed to feel safe. He had me use my left hand to un-hook my seatbelt. He opened the door. I got out slowly and he disarmed me and had me give him my license and registration at that point. After citing me for being "stupid", lol. he thanked me for how I handled the situation and cooperated with him.
I've been pulled over a few times. Each time I told the officer that I had a firearm. Only 1 actually disarmed me. The rest where calm and was happy I told them. And things went smooth. All about staying calm and courteous. If you act nervous they will sense it
“Only” one?
That’s one too many.
@@beybladeguru101 true. I've been pulled over by a state trooper, city cop and county. The county cop disarmed me. Really would a criminal tell an officer if he was carrying. If I didn't tell him he wouldn't have known cause it was on my side away from his view but I do things within the law. Kept my hands on the wheel. Told him I was carrying and then he opened my door. Reached around me and got it out of my holster. Took it to his car and I'm guessing was running the serial number. All legal and all good. Gave it back and left
@@rustynail9793 So that officer violated the 4th amendment willy-nilly. God, what has this country gone to.
I’ve done
It both ways. Never had a problem because I have common sense and do what I should do to deflect any anxiety in the officers part.
I legally conceal carry in Alabama, I’ve been pulled over one time and I immediately notified the officer as soon as he got to my window while handing him my licenses. No problems at all, all he did was place my firearm (which was in a vehicle mount) on my roof while he ran my information. Even waited for a cover officer to arrive so i could retrieve it after everything was finished. Whole process took maybe 10-15 minutes out of my day. It’s only a problem when you have ill intentions.
A good friend of mine said this. Keep your hands through the steering wheel and on the dash until instructed by the officer to get your license and proof of insurance. The officer should appreciate your effort in displaying your intent to keep you both from harm.
I would like too see a video on constitutional carry when pulled over.
This is a great group! I have been a member of USCCA since 2013 and they treat me like a friend everytime I call or chat with them. I highly recommend joining this group for your peace of mind in case the most terrible thing ever occurs! Join this group as well as the NRA and your local or state clubs that represent the millions of legal gun owners in the USA!
law inforcement should never be able to take someones fire arm from them when the stop has nothing to do with a suspected firearm crime. At 4:00 If I lived in wisconsin I would rent wisconsin out and live in hell for the reason of being unlawfully disarmed "the RIGHT to KEEP and BEAR arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
@Shadow.dragon D im confused, is this road pirate law or real law
@Shadow.dragon D learn the law
@@handled99 @Fu Un learn and understabd the constitution especially the 2A
@@richardscarlett7942 these guys are idiots. You're right. I'd fight it too. As a tax paying, law abiding, CCW carrying citizen
@@richardscarlett7942 learn two things: How to spell and RESPECT for our Friends refereed to as Law Enforcement, sorry, you are NOT as Smart as you think, actually you are nothing but what we refer to as a "Want to Be" Barney Fife
I've been pulled over twice since having my CCW. I live in Ohio and I always have everything ready before the officer comes to the window. I hand him my CCW and license and registration at the same time with my ccw on top. After handing him all that they ask where the firearm is and it's always on my hip, I keep my hands on the wheel for the duration of the stop unless told otherwise. Both times the officers were glad I had a CCW and how I conducted myself.
I’m in Southeastern PA and one time had an officer tell me at the end of the stop “next time you get pulled over, tell the officer you have a firearm”. I responded, “is that the law that i have to inform you?” He said “no”. So i told him “well then i don’t have to tell you anything”. He started going on and on about how i should. Anytime I’m pulled over I’m super polite with all my info at the ready and keys on the dash board. He then went on to screw me over and tell me a ticket was taken care of when it wasn’t.
So far, I've never had an issue with officer interaction after first handing my carry license over along with my driver's license.
As a matter of fact, I was shot at in a road rage incident. When I made contact with the officers, I was open and concealed carrying. They commended me for carrying and not once did they bother me about being armed while in their presence.
The thing with the glove compartment happened to me on a traffic stop. The officer asked for my proof of insurance which I had in the g.c. but also in there was my .38 revolver. I told him my insurance card was in my g.c. but that I also had a firearm in there (I heard somewhere that it's best not to say "gun"). First thing he did was thank me for alerting him to that fact. Then he said he was gonna walk around and take it out so I unlocked that side, he reached in and took it out then while leaning in the car, pulled it out of the holster and remarked "nice little Smith & Wesson". He took it back to his cruiser to check it out then after a few minutes came back and put it back where he got it. He walked back to my side and said he wasn't gonna write me up this time (he had been stopped for speeding) but for me to be careful. Of course I was very polite and thanked him for that and told him I would most certainly watch my speed from now on. We shook hands and he thanked me again for letting him know about the gun. I would like to think that most officers are like this one; as long as you're polite and cooperative everything will be fine. I related that story on FB and an anti-gun friend said "so he didn't ticket you because you had a gun?". I remarked back to her that I believed he didn't ticket me because I had been honest with him about the situation. She didn't say anything after that.
So you kissed his ass
@@robertstack2144 Huh? It’s just mutual respect. Put yourself in the police officer’s shoes. They just want to feel comfortable with the situation.
The littlest of things go a long way and deescalate the encounter from the beginning. The cop’s guard is immediately up because they have no idea who they could be dealing with.
@@bren.r you are OK with the cop seizing the firearm and taking it back to ck out if its stolen? Definetly a forth amendment violation. Again the cop now violated the person.
@@robertstack2144 wrong site
@@robertstack2144 yep you are correct.
Here in good ol Idaho you don't need to inform officers. I've only been pulled over once, and it was after I had just gotten a new car and didn't realize my lights didn't come on automatically. I was pretty nervous since I didn't know what I did when the police lights came on but the officer was so friendly and respectful and we ended up casual chatting for a good while. I asked her as an officer if she thought it was better to inform even tho we don't have to. And she told me "Well its Idaho, so I assume everyone has 2-3 guns on them or in their car. As long as you don't draw a weapon we won't draw ours " Idaho also has constitutional carry so as long as your 18 you can carry without a license.
First off, thank you for the great information! My personal thought on it is that if an officer pulls me over for something (I don't speed or willfully break traffic laws, so it's very rare anyway), I will let him know I'm a licensed concealed carrier, and I'll tell him where on my body the gun is. I always have my pertinent vehicle information easy to reach as well, so I don't have to be digging around for it. That's just common sense. I have the utmost respect for the police (yes, I know there are some bad apples) and treat them accordingly. Their job is hard enough without me making it more difficult. As Tom said, it's up to you how you wish to proceed, and it really behooves us all who are CCW to know the laws of our respective states. Stay safe out there!
I was told by a LEO that the best thing to do was get out your info before the LEO gets there. Keep both hands on the wheel and inform him/her that you are armed. This alleviates many inadvertent misunderstandings. I wasn't armed at the time (worked at a prison and could not have a firearm on the premises, even locked in your vehicle), and I never gave him my CCW. It came up when he checked my license.
Through my 50 years of driving (about 45 of them as an armed citizen) I have been pulled over numerous times. Never been asked (would answer honestly if I were) and never volunteered that I was armed. Never had a problem. Say yes sir, no sir, take the ticket and be on your way.
That is what I do.
Just wondering, why does the officer have the right to take the firearm and run the serial number to see if it has been stolen? If I have a laptop in the car or an expensive camera, do you take those to your vehicle and run the numbers? Wondered what the case law came from. thanks.
Probably because it's a *privilege* to own a firearm (kinda like how it's a privilege to drive a car), whereas owning a laptop isn't. Gotta make sure you have that privilege I guess.
@@Wammyve Funny, the 2nd amendment says it's a right.
@@Wammyve There is a difference between a right and a privilege!
@@Wammyve it’s time people wake up and realize that cops don’t have the right to take anyone’s guns! It’s a right! Not a privilege!
@@kurtschmidt5005 Its a right but we have to ask for permission to get a permit just to excercise our right. Our right is no longer a right.
Thank you uscca for these in good videos. And also stand up for the law enforcement agencies in your neighborhood. You never know when you might need a police officer to help you when you're in need. God bless the USA in the first and second amendment
You shouldn’t ever need an officers help, that is what the 2nd admendment is for, “foriegn and *domestic* threats” leo’s are just that “law” “enforcement” “officer” there job is not to protect but to enforce.
In Oregon, my CHL is tied to my ODL, so LEO's know that I'm a licensed concealed carry permit holder. I've only been asked once during a traffic stop if I was carrying, and I said I wasn't (gun was in the Smith's shop for annual maintenance), and everything went smoothly afterwards. Great advice, mostly common sense, but some state's laws are rather odd when it comes to concealed carry. Oregon is a pretty lax state when it comes to gun laws, but still require a CHL if the weapon is easily obtainable by the owner, and not within visible sight.
Been pulled over a number of times in PA and once in NY. Never been asked, never volunteered that I had firearms. I never understood why people unnecessarily complicate the traffic stop if not legally required to. I also keep my insurance/registration in the door side pocket and my wallet sits in the center console. That way I can have all my info in hand in 30 seconds before the cop even exits his car and I never show myself as making weird movements that could cause suspicion.
OK, I've not been pulled over for YEARS so this next comment is based on my direct questions to LEO (on & off duty) on this same topic. The general answer is along the same lines that Kevin just covered EXCEPT when directed to hand over my DL & POI, I would also include my CCW permit as well (assuming the LEO has not already asked about weapons in the vehicle). Also, NEVER EVER say the words "...I have a gun..."! There are many other ways that the same conversation can be started without saying those dreaded words. Just my $0.02.
I say at the initial interaction, “ before we go any further officer, I want to let you know I’m a legal conceal carrier and I do have my firearm on me at so and so position.”
I have had the same question answered the same way from every office I have asked. Good input....especially about not blurting out "I have a gun".
Many times, by many different police officers (including Uncle Mass) I've been counseled to: Roll down my windows, turn the car off, put the keys on the dash, turn on the dome light, and have license, reg, and proof of insurance ready for the officer. Also to keep my hands at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel. If the officer asks me to step out of the vehicle (this has never happened yet), then I will inform him I will obey his instructions and also that I have a CPL and am carrying concealed.
I was pulled over for a third brake light being out. Before the officer even let out his first word, I kindly informed him I am armed with a pistol on my hip. When he asked for my ID, I let him see my pistol as I reached around it for my wallet. He thanked me for letting him know, and just let me of with a warning. No issues.
Great content. Two days ago someone tried to car jack me at the cemetery. I was fortunate to fight him off with minor injuries but wish I had my ccw. Crazy times we live in. Be safe and cautious everyone.
5:20 yeah, reaching for the waistband is a huge pre-attack indicator. I once heard a cop say that when a suspect hikes up the waistband, he's either getting ready to fight or getting ready to run away.
Hands on the wheel, immediately inform the police officer, and follow his requests
Just a week ago and it was smooth as it should be. Get your USCCA membership right now, the training is worth the price by itself!!!
"I do as a law enforcement officer, in a lawful law enforcement contact, have the right to take your firearm and take it back to my car and run the serial number and see if it's been listed stolen anywhere."
1. My firearm is the safest it will ever be right where it is with no one touching it...I promise it won't go off unless someone touches it.
2. I will give you mine for your safety, if you give me yours for my safety...the SCOTUS has ruled that you, as a LEO, have NO duty to protect me, so that responsibility falls on me. If you remove my defensive tool, I loose that ability. If I felt like I could trust LEO's to protect me I wouldn't be carrying a defensive tool in the first place.
3. Doesn't the 4th amendment prevent a traffic officer from "searching" personal effects that are outside of plain view without a warrant? A firearm in a holster that covers the serial number (most, if not all) would require you to take specific action to make that serial number visible. He even said he's never come across a legal CCW holder with a stolen firearm, so what's the likelyhood?
4. Running the numbers to see if it's stolen anywhere...doesn't that equate to guilty until proven innocent? This also puts my defensive tool into a criminal database.
Amen
well said
Good points. As a new CCW holder I didn't really see the issue, but yes in light of the constitution there are many things wrong with it.
I agree with everything you said, but...
Texas has "probable cause" which throws the 4th amendment out the window. When WBush signed executive order Patriot Act it was about 90% based on Texas law, so the 4th amendment now only applies in court if Law Enforcement oversteps their boundries.
@@JustLikeHeaven77 All states have "probable cause". Having a defensive tool is not illegal and therefore no there is no PC. PC has to do with the belief that a crime has been, is being, or was about to be committed. Also, to go along with it, they must have Reasonable, articulable Suspicion. Articulate to me why the mere possession of a defensive tool equates to having committed or about to commit a crime.
I live in nv I’m a security officer I just picked up my first sidearm yesterday a Taurus G3 and out of all the days I got stopped I have my sidearm on me for the first day and it was from my plate tags expired and these cops were amazing I informed them when they asked I pointed out where my sidearm is and he asked if he could open the door and move it to the backseat I said yes officer he thanked me for being honest and cooperative with them and I said of course informed them I’m a security officer and we had pleasant chat the experienced officer was giving tips and advice for my first sidearm and dos and don’ts and even though it was my first interaction with a cop with a sidearm I was pleased with how it went!
In Illinois, the minute the officer runs your license, this pops up on his/her screen. However my interaction with LE and being pulled over has been limited in my 50+ years of driving. Carried for many years. 48 States and Canada. Might have been strictly illegal, but.....Only ONE moving violation in my lifetime and 30+ years driving a semi.....NEVER a DOT Preventible accident. Respect gets respect!
In my experience I have learned that being polite and unthreatening to a law enforcement officer will always save you from any headaches. And definitely be familiar with the local laws; stick to the black and white and don't push your luck with the grey area.
Being white helps.
@@stevesestrich5143 Very true.
LE are there for our protection. I am going to give them my professional respect. If I get pulled over it's because of something I did, and have to own it. I would definitely tell them from the start that I have a CCW on my person. If I am asked for DL, registration, insurance. I would tell them first where they are. Then proceed carefully. Especially if I discern they are new at there job.
My last stop was at night. I turned on the dome light and placed my hands on the steering wheel. The officer must have thought, "Whoa, this guy knows the drill!"
I'm a CPL holder and I drive a 2002 Chevy Suburban, when I get pulled over I make it a point to roll down all my windows and turn on all the interior lights, this gives the Officer plenty of area to view everything. Whether it does any good I haven't been told but it makes me feel good knowing I made it easier on the Officer and puts him/her at ease.
I have input on courtesy no matter the situation…..whether someone is armed or not. I haven’t had a speeding ticket in almost 22 years. But I’ve been pulled over plenty. I say hello with my hands on the wheel and don’t do anything until asked. I have all proper documents when asked and I hand them to the officer. I admit to my speeding, apologize and let them know I have no excuse. I state I simply was not paying attention to my speed. It has worked, for me. I give respect, and then the officer gives it back.
I'm in wi I open carry currently myself I just haven't taken the time to get my conceal carry but definitely will he researching where a ccw class is knowledge is true power if properly used
Note to self, never travel to (and definitely never move to) Wisconsin...the "right to take your firearm in a lawful traffic stop"?! Thats some serious BS that, at the very least, blurs and walks the line of violating at least a couple rights if not flat out tramples on them (no matter how temporary it might be).
And if your LEO and actually pull that $#!+ seriously question your oath as it pertains to upholding the constitution, not just what your state "allows." I support and am grateful for every constitutional LEO out there, oathbreakers on the other hand need to get a different job (cough CIATFBI).
Very well said.
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Just a thought. If you had a firearm stolen from you, wouldn't you like to have it found and returned if possible?
@@j.s.1766 They don't return stolen firearms. They were used in a "crime" and are destroyed in most cases. Very few ever have one returned.
I’ve never had mine taken. It just gets said, “Don’t go for yours and I won’t go for mine”. Kevin is exactly right, they must tell officers to go with that.
This literally happened 2 nights ago. Gave my license and interrupted them before they approached car and said I'm a CCP holder and have 2 guns at the x position. They were very grateful for the info. While we were waiting we talked about our guns
Is a motorist required to answer that question "Do you have any weapons in the car?" Nope....unless it's a duty to report state. Also, taking someone's gun to check serials is likewise unconstitutional during a traffic stop. Bummer you cops don't realize this and keep your oaths.
100% Correct!!!! Always ask, "Will I be arrested if I don't allow you to run the serial number?"
If he say's yes. You can then take legal action against him for violating you're Constitutional Rights!
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only criminal thugs have something to hide and would refuse something that affects them in no way at all.....you idiots sound like sov-cits
@@sin7368 you need only to exercise the rights you would like to keep
@@scottmay2054 that is all of my rights....every single one of them I would like to keep
I live in MA, and I've been pulled over for speeding ( I used to drive a modified turbo BMW with a leaden foot), and as soon as they run your tag, the system tells them you have a CCW. Honestly I feel it's safer, because they know. Last time it happened, the gentleman simply asked me "are you carrying a firearm on yourself or in the vehicle?" (also, in MA, you are required to disclose if asked). I was not carrying, but had to think for a second because I had one in a box in the trunk earlier in the day. He was courteous, and so was I and we ended up having a pleasant conversation and he let me off with a verbal warning (my veteran tags probably helped).