wow...all sounds great. As an all rounder that mic is excellent. Thanks for such a creative/methodical video. It really was a great watch. I have subscribed on the back of watching this. Great job.
Brilliant video. The first time I learned about ambisonics was when I went to an audio engineering school for 2 years in Oslo, Norway, back in 1987. My teacher had an original Calrec Soundfield microphone which he had used on many recordings. I have always wanted to do ambisonic recordings but I have done live sound most of my career so I never got around to it. But now I have my own recording studio and this video was a great inspiration to go get an ambisonic mic. Thank you for this most beautiful video.
TH-cam sort of dropped the ball on ambisonics in 360. I've posted 360 videos with ambisonics years ago and it worked, but now some of that same material doesn't work. I hope they re-visit it or someone will create a wordpress 360 video player with ambisonic support. (or atmos). Great players. Good vid.
@@buzzcutzaudio It’s incredibly frustrating, as I had a bunch of really cool ideas for some 360 video mixed in ambisonics. I went back and forth almost daily with TH-cam for over a month trying to get my video to work, I got the impression that they didn’t know how to fix it or what was causing the problem. They finally got tired of dealing with me and randomly closed the ticket one day. About two weeks ago, the video randomly started to work on most devices and browsers (Soyuz 013A 360 Ambisonic Recording, featuring "Sylamore Special" th-cam.com/video/ZcK7GSoH5Sc/w-d-xo.html). Give it a play on your system and let me know if it works…
@@MillSounds That video doesn't work either. I checked it on Chrome, Safari, iphone YT app with airpod pros and wired headphones. No ambisonics. I checked my videos again and now none of them are working - when they did not long ago. I noticed when I play your video on Chrome vs Safari they sound different. It sounds like Chrome is pulling the ambisonic track but it's not rendering it. While Safari seems to revert to the static binaural mix. I recorded the difference if you want me to send that to you. I hope they fix this or Alejandro @ Audiobrewers can code a player.
Just out of interest, how does the Soyuz 013A compare with the Ambeo vr or Rode nt-sf1 for studio / location music recording? Interested in whether you’ve tried the Soyuz against these other A-format mics?
@@MarkHarmer I’ve only had the Amber next to the 013A briefly. I’m only really interested in it for recording music, and the Soyuz sounded WAY better to me. Ambeo was thin and harsh by comparison. I’ve used the rode a couple of time and thought it sounded better than the ambeo. Pretty much all the other ambisonic choices are pretty clinical and accurate sounding mics, the Soyuz is the only musical sounding option I’ve found.
@ thank you - that’s really useful. I use the Ambeo a lot more than I thought I’d do (though I have other nice conventional mics), because the Ambisonic workflow allows so much post-control and as a musician, I’m often recording my own rehearsals with various groups and I can get a decent sound balance without having to (or being able to) monitor. Really useful reply - thank you!
what do you think of the zoom ambisonic 360 mic as a starter mic to get introduced to ambisonics in general? I want to record classical music: piano specifically along with voice, french horn, and guitar. but since you said ambisonic mics are sensitive to musicians live dynamics, would something louder like french horn + piano be difficult to record?
A friend of mine has one of the zooms. He uses it for capturing things like fireworks on the 4th of July and other cool ambiance things. It does a great job for that and is a cheap way to get into ambisonics. Neither of us liked it for musical things, most sources just sounded a bit thin and too bright. I think it's the best place to start if you're curious about ambisonics though! The next tier up for ambisonic mics is going to start around $1000, so the zoom is about the only affordable option. As for dynamics, you just have to be conscious about your gain staging. You can't approach this as setting levels for 4 different microphones, every mic has to have the exact same gain settings to decode correctly. You have to figure out which capsule is getting the loudest signal, and make sure you set the gain on that channel to leave you enough headroom. Then you have to set all the other preamp channel to the same gain setting that first channel is at. It's a bit odd sometimes, as you'll have one channel that's getting a lot of level and the other 3 channels seem way too quiet. That's just the nature of ambisonics, so make sure you're using the exact same gain settings for every channel and leaving yourself enough headroom.
Is just one preamp/p48 required or 4, one for each capsule? Ah, found it, 4 preamps are required: “Preamp Level Matching Use four identical preamps and ensure that all four channels are set to equal gain. This is crucial to capture an accurate sound field and prevents any discrepancies in your recording.”
You need 4 channels of the same preamps with phantom power (think of this as 4 microphones in one body). The better you’re able to match the gain in each preamp channel, the better (they all need to be set to the exact same gain setting). I use 4 channels on my Universal Audio Apollo interface so I could set the gain exactly the same.
wow...all sounds great. As an all rounder that mic is excellent. Thanks for such a creative/methodical video. It really was a great watch. I have subscribed on the back of watching this. Great job.
DUDE you have like one of the best recording channels out there.
the violinist is incredible wow . Amazing voice !
Ya, they're great! Make sure you check out @sylamorespecial
Thanks, looking at Soyuz as my next mic.
Brilliant video. The first time I learned about ambisonics was when I went to an audio engineering school for 2 years in Oslo, Norway, back in 1987. My teacher had an original Calrec Soundfield microphone which he had used on many recordings. I have always wanted to do ambisonic recordings but I have done live sound most of my career so I never got around to it. But now I have my own recording studio and this video was a great inspiration to go get an ambisonic mic. Thank you for this most beautiful video.
@@nilsrp The Soyuz mic is a great choice if you’re recording music in a studio, we finally have a colorful sounding circuit choice!
your channel is a piece of art
Thanks!
I wasn't prepared for how good this sounds. Bonkers. Great video!
You put so much work into that video!
It was a beast of a video project for sure!
Talent always comes through ,sounds great
Awesome song!
TH-cam sort of dropped the ball on ambisonics in 360. I've posted 360 videos with ambisonics years ago and it worked, but now some of that same material doesn't work. I hope they re-visit it or someone will create a wordpress 360 video player with ambisonic support. (or atmos). Great players. Good vid.
@@buzzcutzaudio It’s incredibly frustrating, as I had a bunch of really cool ideas for some 360 video mixed in ambisonics. I went back and forth almost daily with TH-cam for over a month trying to get my video to work, I got the impression that they didn’t know how to fix it or what was causing the problem. They finally got tired of dealing with me and randomly closed the ticket one day. About two weeks ago, the video randomly started to work on most devices and browsers (Soyuz 013A 360 Ambisonic Recording, featuring "Sylamore Special"
th-cam.com/video/ZcK7GSoH5Sc/w-d-xo.html). Give it a play on your system and let me know if it works…
@@MillSounds That video doesn't work either. I checked it on Chrome, Safari, iphone YT app with airpod pros and wired headphones. No ambisonics.
I checked my videos again and now none of them are working - when they did not long ago.
I noticed when I play your video on Chrome vs Safari they sound different. It sounds like Chrome is pulling the ambisonic track but it's not rendering it. While Safari seems to revert to the static binaural mix. I recorded the difference if you want me to send that to you. I hope they fix this or Alejandro @ Audiobrewers can code a player.
Beautiful and informative 🎯
Thanks man!
Great video. Good to note that the user does not need to know any math. Lol. I just use four microphones and the rode plugin.
Very Cool
Listened to this Sylamore Special song on Apple Music and this Ambisonic recording is 10000% better sounding. Did you record the original version too?
@@chrisgrigsby4475 I haven’t recorded anything with them, but it sounds like that was just an upload error or something on iTunes.
dude…you’re wonderful 💪😉👍
Just out of interest, how does the Soyuz 013A compare with the Ambeo vr or Rode nt-sf1 for studio / location music recording? Interested in whether you’ve tried the Soyuz against these other A-format mics?
@@MarkHarmer I’ve only had the Amber next to the 013A briefly. I’m only really interested in it for recording music, and the Soyuz sounded WAY better to me. Ambeo was thin and harsh by comparison. I’ve used the rode a couple of time and thought it sounded better than the ambeo. Pretty much all the other ambisonic choices are pretty clinical and accurate sounding mics, the Soyuz is the only musical sounding option I’ve found.
@ thank you - that’s really useful. I use the Ambeo a lot more than I thought I’d do (though I have other nice conventional mics), because the Ambisonic workflow allows so much post-control and as a musician, I’m often recording my own rehearsals with various groups and I can get a decent sound balance without having to (or being able to) monitor. Really useful reply - thank you!
what do you think of the zoom ambisonic 360 mic as a starter mic to get introduced to ambisonics in general? I want to record classical music: piano specifically along with voice, french horn, and guitar. but since you said ambisonic mics are sensitive to musicians live dynamics, would something louder like french horn + piano be difficult to record?
A friend of mine has one of the zooms. He uses it for capturing things like fireworks on the 4th of July and other cool ambiance things. It does a great job for that and is a cheap way to get into ambisonics. Neither of us liked it for musical things, most sources just sounded a bit thin and too bright. I think it's the best place to start if you're curious about ambisonics though! The next tier up for ambisonic mics is going to start around $1000, so the zoom is about the only affordable option.
As for dynamics, you just have to be conscious about your gain staging. You can't approach this as setting levels for 4 different microphones, every mic has to have the exact same gain settings to decode correctly. You have to figure out which capsule is getting the loudest signal, and make sure you set the gain on that channel to leave you enough headroom. Then you have to set all the other preamp channel to the same gain setting that first channel is at. It's a bit odd sometimes, as you'll have one channel that's getting a lot of level and the other 3 channels seem way too quiet. That's just the nature of ambisonics, so make sure you're using the exact same gain settings for every channel and leaving yourself enough headroom.
@@MillSounds thank you for your thorough reply! ❤️
Is just one preamp/p48 required or 4, one for each capsule? Ah, found it, 4 preamps are required: “Preamp Level Matching
Use four identical preamps and ensure that all four channels are set to equal gain. This is crucial to capture an accurate sound field and prevents any discrepancies in your recording.”
You need 4 channels of the same preamps with phantom power (think of this as 4 microphones in one body). The better you’re able to match the gain in each preamp channel, the better (they all need to be set to the exact same gain setting). I use 4 channels on my Universal Audio Apollo interface so I could set the gain exactly the same.
very nice! i have 2pcs superrare AKG C424 four channel output mics, which sound incredible. you could get one from me if of interest.
😊😊😊