THATS WHAT SSUPD STANDS FOR? A method of cooking eggs!? I am neither underwhelmed nor overwhelmed, i am just, whelmed. Great to finally see an ATX build in this thing, watching ITX reviews feels kinda pointless since you can just do that with the original meshalicious.
I actually think there is a use-case for an itx review, but I haven't seen it done in the configuration yet. I'd like to see atx-psu, itx-mobo on the mobo-side while the gpu-side has a radiator and high-end-watercooled gpu. If this fits a custom loop configuration like that this is a huge win for psu clearance, since the new GPU generation sips so much power.
With how many options of how to set this up SSUPD should really have 3D models on their website you can rotate and see closer where everything goes. As the pictures they have currently aren’t as clear as they should be. Especially with SFF cases where ever cubic inch counts case manufacturers should go into great detail of dimensions and limitations
This case mainly exists to be a "Meshlicious 2" with a different name. The original designer of the Meshlicious was W360 (Formd T1 & NCASE M1) and allegedly wasn't paid the agreed upon profits by SSUPD, so they sued SSUPD and are making a Meshlicious V2 with Streacom. This is also why the NCASE was discontinued, due to SSUPD's close relationship with LianLi, they didn't want to place a new production order while the lawsuit was going on.
With how ITX boards seem to be getting worse and worse in terms of features+performance, it's great seeing that these types of cases exist with a wide range of compatible parts. As far as I know, the only better case in terms of space efficiency is the 10l SFF-Time P-ATX case, which is unfortunately really damn expensive due to it only being made by a relatively small company from Croatia.
out of curiosity i searched them up and gawddamn! those cases looked really nice. definitely their new cube-case that can fit a goddamn NH-D15S! 🤣 maybe time to start getting bookmarks for everything 😁
@@GearSeekers I know I asked for the ATX review and you gave us the ATX review.... hopefully your time off helped recharge you! Coming into a busy time of the season.
This is a very intriguing case. I was thinking about making an ATX computer as smallest possible, and I think this is the only case that could accomplish that.
I have the original Meshilicious case and love it despite a few gripes. I'm happy to see that they addressed the placement of the power button because there have been times where I would use a USB port and accidentally push the power button (I've learned my lesson and am now more aware of how I hold USB cables). It's also interesting how you can now put the radiator behind the motherboard and beside the GPU since that's where most of the heat resonated in the original case. Idk how practical it is to support an ATX motherboard but at least the option is there. Just wish they included taller case feet to deal with the pesky display cables.
I've hit the power button on accident so many times... My case sits on a few coasters so i dont kill my displayport cable. Its not stupid if it works lol.
@@jeji5860 yeah, like in the B550 range, the cheapest mobo is the Asrock b550m/itx and it's bad for the price, it's almost twice the price of a b550m tuf while giving way less features. Only one m.2 slot, no bios flashback, subpar VRMs. I love the itx form factor and the aesthetic but unfortunately I can't justify paying a premium for "less".
As brazilian, it's so hard to find itx stuff here. PSUs in particular, I've never seen an SFF PSU. This kind of case could be amazing to build a PC with a small footprint while still using regular sized components. And in general smaller footprint > smaller volume. Vertically oriented cases are awesome. Now I'll make sure to not check how expensive it would be to order one of these cases overseas here, and pretend this is a viable option for me in the future :D
bem vindo ao clube. o melhor custo beneficio que achei por hora e que me agradou, foi o case chines SAMA CUZÃO IM01 (KKK) soquei uma mATX nele e um i9 boladao ES 10900. otimo case. paguei 500 pau. se for importar pelo ali, sai 1600. absurdo o roubo do estado
I'd put the radiator fans on intake push configuration and put an exhaust fan up top, dremel should do the work like in this 1st version of ssupd mesh. Also might put an intake fan beside the PSU for airflow on the motherboard, nice case, nice review. Thanks for the close up shots.
It's great what they achieved, but imo since they were already going this route they could add like 2-3 liters to the case to make things fit easier and also allow atx mb with atx psu.
Yaassssss. I've been planning a build in the Meshlicious. What is the biggest difference and or benefits of this new case over that one? Much love guys
If you go mATX can you still fit a radiator in the front? mATX boards are usually a lot cheaper than ITX boards and having one in a form factor like this with two 280mm radiators would be great.
What's the benefit of using an ATX board in a small case like this, if you're just blocking off all the PCI-E expansion slots with the riser cable and PSU? Just for the sake of a few fan headers and others ports? It just doesn't seem to have much practical benefit, apart from motherboard selection choice I suppose...
@@mystichavin5330 I mean sure, I guess that's a benefit, but realistically if I were building a SFF system I'd probably be looking to do it right and not compromise by using "what I have laying around". It's a niche market with deep pockets, conversely if I had an ATX motherboard and wanted a compact system I'd just look at getting the the most compact ATX case I can find (that was specifically intended for building with ATX boards). It doesn't fundementally change the fact that this case makes the expandability of ATX boards mostly redundant. If there's one thing I've learned after building 100+ PC at this point, putting incorrectly sized motherboards into chassis that were fundementally made for a different size always looks bad, whether they're too big, or too small. I think this is equally true here.
Most people don't use more than the first pcie slot, this lets you build a decent powerhouse with 4 slots for ram and more m.2 ports compared to an itx board.
I think those max GPU length numbers must not be correct. I saw someone put a Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC in theirs and its written up as 340mm. I just got the case and visually it also looks like I can fit mine in.
It seems the market share the ATX scenario targets is the person who already has an ATX tower but wants to see if the SFF life is for them...and they would likely have to buy an SFX PSU to give it a go. That sure seems like an awfully small market segment. That said, it doesn't seem to sacrifice anything for the ITX crowd, and on SSUPD's US website, the Meshroom S with PCIe 4 riser is priced $20 less than Meshilicious with PCIe 4 costs...so that flexibility doesn't bring added costs, so it's not really hurting anything if you need/want the PCIe4 riser. And I'll tell you, owning a NR200P with a 3060ti FE...having a PCIe 4 riser saves a TON of headaches when it comes to BIOS updates...
I’ve only built 1 pc and it’s been itx. It’s awesome, not too expensive. Motherboard, power supply and cases are where you see the “itx tax”. Also there’s the fact that most builds are performance limited. If you get a sick build it’s usually cursed with higher temps. But I don’t regret it. I think something like this, will be my next build when I upgrade years from now. MATX/ATX in a smaller case like this is rather ideal.
Great work Nick, just what we asked for. It still hasnt been released to the UK retail market. I hope it's out for Xmas as I've just decided to order a Meshlicious as downsized to ITX and could be looking to put my media PC which has a micro-ATX board with a 5600G in this model
What use is an atx mobo if you can't take advantage of it in this case (pcie slots). The raiser cables add a point of failure and the temp at 18c ambient are not great. I would go for a nr200 it's cheaper and you can put that saving towards a itx mobo and you gain 4l and get better temps.
I've not read through the comments, but how are those rad fans meant to draw in air, where it's pretty much pressed up against the back of the motherboard?
Curious why the radiator fans is set to exhaust? Surely if it's intake it can take the fresh air from outside, but if it's exhaust, it is choked by the motherboard being so close and the warm air from the GPU is the only source of air.
honestly I was hyuped about this case but seen the drawbacks it's kinda complicated to pull the trigger. maybe with air coiling and the GPU on standard position will be more suitable for meshroom
I get that they are trying to minimize the footprint as much as they can, but since it's already much much smaller than most ATX cases it would have been nice if they just gave the case an extra inch here or there to make life easier when building. On the other hand I am quite pleased to see more options when it comes to sff ATX cases
They should make a SSUPD Meshroom M, just big enough so that the front panel doesn't bulge when you use an ATX motherboard let's say make it 15.4-15.5L bigger.
What's the point of (m)ATX motherboard in it when all the ports are covered by the riser and PSU? Have fun doing anything on the board, you'll have to remove a bunch of stuff first to do it and the PCIe ports wil be unusable. Might as well get an ITX board to begin with, then. This is an ambitious case but perhaps a bit too ambitious...as someone said about it, "yes, you can stuff that in there but should you?"
It's really great that you did an ATX build for this case since most reviews are mini ITX. I was really doubtful of the mATX/ATX support and this video cleared those up - with the case's layout, the rest of the PCIe slots of mATX/ATX boards will be blocked by the riser cable and the PSU. So, the mATX/ATX "support" is kinda misleading to consumers. What do you think?
this could be good if you where trying to reuse some hardware from a full size case all be it you need a sfx power supply but if you wanted to downsize you system without rebuilding from scratch. and itx boards tend to be fairly pricy so if you can find a good m atx board or even full atx board and save some cash its a bonus. I was personally thinking this case would be a great nas remove bulky gpu and fill the other side with some hard drives with a 3d printed drive sled
Well .. a few statemens by someone who has been preparing to build a Mesh-mATX for about half a year (mostly stopped by the issue of not being rich and needing to pay rent first before all the "fun"): 1. Using an ATX board is really not the brightest idea for this case. Yes, if you've seen the original Mesh-ATX build videos, then its doable, but its a wasted opportunity, because the rest of the PCIe extension ports are naturally blocked by the PSU. You could change that if you relocated it elsewhere, but it'd would complicate things a lot more - eg. where to place the GPU. 2. IMNSHO the best choice out of two worlds is to go with mATX - not only can you easily relocate the PSU to either the right "front" side - where its not blocking any PCIe ports - but you may also relocate it to the "gpu" side (which is the original plan I had for my own build project). If you want to really go places, you could even do it by adapting any fancy vertical-style GPU holder in the "mainboard" side, add a fitting Riser cable, and then go with a 280 or even a 200 mm radiator on the "gpu" side. Depending on the PSU you're using (also see #3), there is also enough space for a small to medium-sized reservoir, so you're not forced to stick to closed-loop AIOs, but be able to go full custom loop. 3. If you want to go with the smallest PSU possible, you should pick a FlexATX or even U1 server PSU. Those normally come in the size of 80 x 40 x 150 (up to 220) mm, and might be positioned where the "original" position for the SFX / SFX-L / ATX PSU would have been. In combination with an mATX board, that wont even block anything at all. The only disadvantage with this option is the price; a decent FlexATX PSU like the SilverStone FX600-PT Platinum chimes in at around 170 Euro (inkl. shipping), and something insane like the Intel AXX1300TCRPS (with 1300W) starts at around 270 Euro. 4. What I dislike with this "improved" version is: they didnt really "improve" it, just slightly extend it.. What I would have expected from a properly improved version: Eg. an easy option to extend to the sides by a 1 - 2 cm, so one would still be able to comfortably place the radiator to the small "side" like in the original meshi, or at least use the side as some sort of cable channel, adding fans or even a small screen. Also, being able to remove ALL of the metal parts of the frame, ie. the side where the GPU would normally sit, which is still a fixed part of the frame and would have to be manually removed (either drilled + sawn out, or with a dremel tool). But well, even the Jonsbo clone didnt really improve on this, so whatever .. just my .02 eurocents and about 6 months of extensive research of the topic (with the original, not this bad excuse of an "improved" version). cu, w0lf.
I just got this case, and I git a GA 2 Trinity 240 but the cooler didn't work since the tubes face downwards and intersect with my ATX motherboard. which cooler are you using?
I don't understand the point of running an ATX case in a rig like this where the riser cable covers all the other expansion slots (and it's not like you could use them anyway). Only benefit I can think of might be if you need 4 NVME slots?
Would it not be ideal of they set a bracket for a 140/120mm right above the PSU and a grill for the fan for RAM cooling purposes? The space between the panel and the cooler would be the same as the PSU height, I suppose.
I know I should buy a sfx psu to use with a atx motherboard but i just wanted to know if it could fit at all. would be really cool to just shove everything i already own into this case initially even if its super tight.
im ready to migrate my oven box from q500l to this case. i like small footprint but prefer an ATX board. there were options but like sliger case but those are hard to find at least from where I'm from. the orig SSD was readliy available and was easy to grab one. so I have my hopes this would be too.
Question: what happens if the GPU is thicker than 1.8 slots? Does that mean only 1 rad can be used on the front side, without also adding on the right side?
Can I know about riser cable name? Is it ssupd riser cable 270mm length? in description of ssupd, if you build atx m/b system, you need to install the riser cable to 2nd slot on your m/b. but your video installed first slot. so I want to know about riser cable your system.
@@RobBroderick44 hmm, thansk for the info, I asked because SFX PSUs are very expensive compared to ATX and they also offer less power, sure 1600W is unnecessary but 850W or 1000W is MUCH more expensive in SFX form than ATX, mITX boards are also more expensive but they also have more high end features than entry level mATX or even ATX.
Would it be possible to use a liquid cooled GPU in this configuration, given the case support for dual radiators? I know SSUPD makes an external bracket for a 360mm rad, but if it can all fit inside it would be a little cleaner.
Nice Video, that show of the case in a decent manner, but you really should have shown how the display and hdmi cables connect to the gpu since this is probably the biggest negative of this case layout. The case seems pretty fragile and kind of sketch especially when you had to mount the Sff power supply and the radiator. For the price I expect something much better in terms of build quality and it is very dissapointing, that they do not have a nice solution for the Hdmi and Display cables.
do you know what the "gpu baffle" is? I have an XFX MERC RX 6800 (340mm long), and im not seeing how this is going to fit. in the case description on the SSUPD website it doesnt say it supports that long of a card, but in your case description it does. Thanks!
nice video! do you think a matx build with a low profile big shuriken 3 ana a rx6700xt or 6800 would be fine with termals, there is no space for intake fan thats why i want to ask thx.
almost looks like it could fit an atx power supply. how is it a atx board with a normal sized gpu and it still looks like there is plenty of air in there?
I'm trying to figure out what's the point of a full size ATX motherboard when the bottom slots aren't accessible because of the power supply leaving no room. I would just go m-ITX and call it a day.
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THATS WHAT SSUPD STANDS FOR? A method of cooking eggs!? I am neither underwhelmed nor overwhelmed, i am just, whelmed.
Great to finally see an ATX build in this thing, watching ITX reviews feels kinda pointless since you can just do that with the original meshalicious.
I actually think there is a use-case for an itx review, but I haven't seen it done in the configuration yet.
I'd like to see atx-psu, itx-mobo on the mobo-side while the gpu-side has a radiator and high-end-watercooled gpu. If this fits a custom loop configuration like that this is a huge win for psu clearance, since the new GPU generation sips so much power.
With how many options of how to set this up SSUPD should really have 3D models on their website you can rotate and see closer where everything goes. As the pictures they have currently aren’t as clear as they should be. Especially with SFF cases where ever cubic inch counts case manufacturers should go into great detail of dimensions and limitations
This case mainly exists to be a "Meshlicious 2" with a different name. The original designer of the Meshlicious was W360 (Formd T1 & NCASE M1) and allegedly wasn't paid the agreed upon profits by SSUPD, so they sued SSUPD and are making a Meshlicious V2 with Streacom. This is also why the NCASE was discontinued, due to SSUPD's close relationship with LianLi, they didn't want to place a new production order while the lawsuit was going on.
I am very aware. I am friends with W360.
wow thanks for that share. thats extremely interesting! politics even in the itx world.
Thanks for letting us know about this, I was going to get this case, Has the w360 designed and released a case by himself yet? Id love to support him.
@@techbuildspcs he's made several cases in the past. Don't know if any are currently available, but he's working on a few new cases right now.
Huh? Then why is this case selling on the same original site?
With how ITX boards seem to be getting worse and worse in terms of features+performance, it's great seeing that these types of cases exist with a wide range of compatible parts. As far as I know, the only better case in terms of space efficiency is the 10l SFF-Time P-ATX case, which is unfortunately really damn expensive due to it only being made by a relatively small company from Croatia.
out of curiosity i searched them up and gawddamn! those cases looked really nice. definitely their new cube-case that can fit a goddamn NH-D15S! 🤣 maybe time to start getting bookmarks for everything 😁
Thank you for doing atx. All the m.2 options!
We did what people asked us to do :)
@@GearSeekers I know I asked for the ATX review and you gave us the ATX review.... hopefully your time off helped recharge you! Coming into a busy time of the season.
This is a very intriguing case. I was thinking about making an ATX computer as smallest possible, and I think this is the only case that could accomplish that.
did you do it
It's criminal that this video doesn't have more views, this case is a atx users dream case, and small budget form factor dreamers dream
Another great build video. I love waking up in the US and having a new GS video sitting there.
The cyan and pink in the charts brings me back. So many toys from the 80's and 90's had the black, cyan, and pink theme.
Tiny Cases deserve love too !
Solid video as usual. Love how in depth you get with your reviews. All the right information and directly to the point. Keep up the great work!
I have the original Meshilicious case and love it despite a few gripes. I'm happy to see that they addressed the placement of the power button because there have been times where I would use a USB port and accidentally push the power button (I've learned my lesson and am now more aware of how I hold USB cables). It's also interesting how you can now put the radiator behind the motherboard and beside the GPU since that's where most of the heat resonated in the original case. Idk how practical it is to support an ATX motherboard but at least the option is there. Just wish they included taller case feet to deal with the pesky display cables.
I've hit the power button on accident so many times...
My case sits on a few coasters so i dont kill my displayport cable. Its not stupid if it works lol.
I have a cat who loves to sit on the warm PC case and press the on/off button for me.
This is such a dank case and the Gear Seekers Sauce makes just look so good
For this ATX build can someone tell me which PCIe cable was used in this build? Their website is a little confusing.
@@TheTbone707 did you find out with kind of pcie to get?
Good to see you back, hope you two had a good break.
Not sure if we're back yet lol
We tried haha
You can get the original meshlicious for only 60 dollars rn, if only you can get itx motherboard for cheap also
Where? I only see the white available for $89.99
Yeah, the itx tax is insane. Pay more for less.
@@RafitoOoO 100 bucks at least for the low end board, i wish it was cheaper
@@jeji5860 yeah, like in the B550 range, the cheapest mobo is the Asrock b550m/itx and it's bad for the price, it's almost twice the price of a b550m tuf while giving way less features. Only one m.2 slot, no bios flashback, subpar VRMs. I love the itx form factor and the aesthetic but unfortunately I can't justify paying a premium for "less".
Do you still plan on posting the PCpartpicker link?
As brazilian, it's so hard to find itx stuff here. PSUs in particular, I've never seen an SFF PSU. This kind of case could be amazing to build a PC with a small footprint while still using regular sized components. And in general smaller footprint > smaller volume. Vertically oriented cases are awesome. Now I'll make sure to not check how expensive it would be to order one of these cases overseas here, and pretend this is a viable option for me in the future :D
bem vindo ao clube. o melhor custo beneficio que achei por hora e que me agradou, foi o case chines SAMA CUZÃO IM01 (KKK) soquei uma mATX nele e um i9 boladao ES 10900. otimo case. paguei 500 pau. se for importar pelo ali, sai 1600. absurdo o roubo do estado
I'd put the radiator fans on intake push configuration and put an exhaust fan up top, dremel should do the work like in this 1st version of ssupd mesh. Also might put an intake fan beside the PSU for airflow on the motherboard, nice case, nice review. Thanks for the close up shots.
Wooo the video i've been waiting for 🙌, great video awesome build 🙂👍, also the music is still bussin 🎶
Thankyou!
great work as usual
will a 4090 fit next to the AiO?
It's great what they achieved, but imo since they were already going this route they could add like 2-3 liters to the case to make things fit easier and also allow atx mb with atx psu.
I agree
Add 2-3 litres and suddenly its no longer a "small case"
@@kevinw7319 the cut of the SFF case is 20L, 15+3
@@RafitoOoO If you want a big case, buy a big case :)
@@kevinw7319 you seem to have some reading comprehension, won't waste more time.
Yaassssss. I've been planning a build in the Meshlicious. What is the biggest difference and or benefits of this new case over that one? Much love guys
If you go mATX can you still fit a radiator in the front? mATX boards are usually a lot cheaper than ITX boards and having one in a form factor like this with two 280mm radiators would be great.
No. mATX and ATX are the same width.
@@Molo9000 That sucks, I want a case like this that can support mATX and dual rad. I don't care if it would be a little bigger.
What's the benefit of using an ATX board in a small case like this, if you're just blocking off all the PCI-E expansion slots with the riser cable and PSU? Just for the sake of a few fan headers and others ports? It just doesn't seem to have much practical benefit, apart from motherboard selection choice I suppose...
its not about benefits, its about options. say you have an atx board laying around and dont want to buy an sfx mb?
@@mystichavin5330 I mean sure, I guess that's a benefit, but realistically if I were building a SFF system I'd probably be looking to do it right and not compromise by using "what I have laying around". It's a niche market with deep pockets, conversely if I had an ATX motherboard and wanted a compact system I'd just look at getting the the most compact ATX case I can find (that was specifically intended for building with ATX boards). It doesn't fundementally change the fact that this case makes the expandability of ATX boards mostly redundant. If there's one thing I've learned after building 100+ PC at this point, putting incorrectly sized motherboards into chassis that were fundementally made for a different size always looks bad, whether they're too big, or too small. I think this is equally true here.
SFF is always a compromise no matter what hardware you choose.
Most people don't use more than the first pcie slot, this lets you build a decent powerhouse with 4 slots for ram and more m.2 ports compared to an itx board.
What kind of GPU do you have there…? 👀
I think those max GPU length numbers must not be correct. I saw someone put a Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC in theirs and its written up as 340mm. I just got the case and visually it also looks like I can fit mine in.
This is a really ideal case for all sizes of motherboards. Love it.
Looks like the side rad racket can be relocated to the next spot. Dual 240mm radiator seems possible for ITX build
I was waiting for this review for two weeks ahaha great stuff
It seems the market share the ATX scenario targets is the person who already has an ATX tower but wants to see if the SFF life is for them...and they would likely have to buy an SFX PSU to give it a go. That sure seems like an awfully small market segment.
That said, it doesn't seem to sacrifice anything for the ITX crowd, and on SSUPD's US website, the Meshroom S with PCIe 4 riser is priced $20 less than Meshilicious with PCIe 4 costs...so that flexibility doesn't bring added costs, so it's not really hurting anything if you need/want the PCIe4 riser. And I'll tell you, owning a NR200P with a 3060ti FE...having a PCIe 4 riser saves a TON of headaches when it comes to BIOS updates...
I've been tempted to do my first foray into ITX and build in the famous NR200P, but this case looks super interesting too but harder to use!! 🤔
I’ve only built 1 pc and it’s been itx. It’s awesome, not too expensive. Motherboard, power supply and cases are where you see the “itx tax”. Also there’s the fact that most builds are performance limited. If you get a sick build it’s usually cursed with higher temps. But I don’t regret it. I think something like this, will be my next build when I upgrade years from now. MATX/ATX in a smaller case like this is rather ideal.
love my nr200
Great work Nick, just what we asked for.
It still hasnt been released to the UK retail market. I hope it's out for Xmas as I've just decided to order a Meshlicious as downsized to ITX and could be looking to put my media PC which has a micro-ATX board with a 5600G in this model
yes but can it HANDLE a 4090
What use is an atx mobo if you can't take advantage of it in this case (pcie slots). The raiser cables add a point of failure and the temp at 18c ambient are not great. I would go for a nr200 it's cheaper and you can put that saving towards a itx mobo and you gain 4l and get better temps.
Its more about M.2 storage than PCIe slots
Nice screwdriver
Excellent review!
peeping that LTT screwdriver! 👀
I've not read through the comments, but how are those rad fans meant to draw in air, where it's pretty much pressed up against the back of the motherboard?
Banger of a video fams, the meshroom S looks like an interesting case
I really want to see dual radiator custom loop build in this.
yes
Curious why the radiator fans is set to exhaust? Surely if it's intake it can take the fresh air from outside, but if it's exhaust, it is choked by the motherboard being so close and the warm air from the GPU is the only source of air.
honestly I was hyuped about this case but seen the drawbacks it's kinda complicated to pull the trigger. maybe with air coiling and the GPU on standard position will be more suitable for meshroom
Yeah. You would be very limited by coolers though
I get that they are trying to minimize the footprint as much as they can, but since it's already much much smaller than most ATX cases it would have been nice if they just gave the case an extra inch here or there to make life easier when building. On the other hand I am quite pleased to see more options when it comes to sff ATX cases
I agree. Frustrating lack of room in some places.
Personally not my style of case but I can appreciate people will dig it. Great video fams.
I would put it in 4 slot mode if running ATX with an AIO and side mount rad to give the fans more clearance.
They should make a SSUPD Meshroom M, just big enough so that the front panel doesn't bulge when you use an ATX motherboard let's say make it 15.4-15.5L bigger.
I hear there is another version coming
What's the point of (m)ATX motherboard in it when all the ports are covered by the riser and PSU? Have fun doing anything on the board, you'll have to remove a bunch of stuff first to do it and the PCIe ports wil be unusable. Might as well get an ITX board to begin with, then.
This is an ambitious case but perhaps a bit too ambitious...as someone said about it, "yes, you can stuff that in there but should you?"
I'm really curious what a Be Quiet matx case would look like
same, I've been waiting for some high quality matx cases to be released
Not sure they would ever do a MATX case.
It's really great that you did an ATX build for this case since most reviews are mini ITX. I was really doubtful of the mATX/ATX support and this video cleared those up - with the case's layout, the rest of the PCIe slots of mATX/ATX boards will be blocked by the riser cable and the PSU. So, the mATX/ATX "support" is kinda misleading to consumers. What do you think?
this could be good if you where trying to reuse some hardware from a full size case all be it you need a sfx power supply but if you wanted to downsize you system without rebuilding from scratch. and itx boards tend to be fairly pricy so if you can find a good m atx board or even full atx board and save some cash its a bonus. I was personally thinking this case would be a great nas remove bulky gpu and fill the other side with some hard drives with a 3d printed drive sled
why did he walk up during the intro like he was about to tell me some bad news lol
bro you gotta review Mechanic Master C series cases!
ill be impressed when you fit an *E* atx system in an sff case
Cerberus make one.
Well .. a few statemens by someone who has been preparing to build a Mesh-mATX for about half a year (mostly stopped by the issue of not being rich and needing to pay rent first before all the "fun"):
1. Using an ATX board is really not the brightest idea for this case. Yes, if you've seen the original Mesh-ATX build videos, then its doable, but its a wasted opportunity, because the rest of the PCIe extension ports are naturally blocked by the PSU. You could change that if you relocated it elsewhere, but it'd would complicate things a lot more - eg. where to place the GPU.
2. IMNSHO the best choice out of two worlds is to go with mATX - not only can you easily relocate the PSU to either the right "front" side - where its not blocking any PCIe ports - but you may also relocate it to the "gpu" side (which is the original plan I had for my own build project). If you want to really go places, you could even do it by adapting any fancy vertical-style GPU holder in the "mainboard" side, add a fitting Riser cable, and then go with a 280 or even a 200 mm radiator on the "gpu" side. Depending on the PSU you're using (also see #3), there is also enough space for a small to medium-sized reservoir, so you're not forced to stick to closed-loop AIOs, but be able to go full custom loop.
3. If you want to go with the smallest PSU possible, you should pick a FlexATX or even U1 server PSU. Those normally come in the size of 80 x 40 x 150 (up to 220) mm, and might be positioned where the "original" position for the SFX / SFX-L / ATX PSU would have been. In combination with an mATX board, that wont even block anything at all. The only disadvantage with this option is the price; a decent FlexATX PSU like the SilverStone FX600-PT Platinum chimes in at around 170 Euro (inkl. shipping), and something insane like the Intel AXX1300TCRPS (with 1300W) starts at around 270 Euro.
4. What I dislike with this "improved" version is: they didnt really "improve" it, just slightly extend it.. What I would have expected from a properly improved version: Eg. an easy option to extend to the sides by a 1 - 2 cm, so one would still be able to comfortably place the radiator to the small "side" like in the original meshi, or at least use the side as some sort of cable channel, adding fans or even a small screen. Also, being able to remove ALL of the metal parts of the frame, ie. the side where the GPU would normally sit, which is still a fixed part of the frame and would have to be manually removed (either drilled + sawn out, or with a dremel tool). But well, even the Jonsbo clone didnt really improve on this, so whatever ..
just my .02 eurocents and about 6 months of extensive research of the topic (with the original, not this bad excuse of an "improved" version).
cu, w0lf.
I wonder how dual rads would work with the smaller motherboard
I don’t get this. The expansion slots are covered up… so what’s the point of going ATX over mATX?
More like the size of my $40 Zzaw C2 case from China
But this can fit Atx
Kudos to ssupd
I hope more 15L atx case incoming
I’m with SSUPD!
Could you do a matx version please 🙏🙏
Could you do a video showing/comparing all the different configurations? Thanks!
YES YES I LOVE SFF PC SO MUCH
I just got this case, and I git a GA 2 Trinity 240 but the cooler didn't work since the tubes face downwards and intersect with my ATX motherboard. which cooler are you using?
Couldn't even figure out how to get the panels off this case to start. Cheers
So am I correct in assuming that there is no airflow over the front of the Mobo? Seems odd for a full mesh case.
I don't understand the point of running an ATX case in a rig like this where the riser cable covers all the other expansion slots (and it's not like you could use them anyway). Only benefit I can think of might be if you need 4 NVME slots?
Read again
Also given the price of the additional riser it would cost basically the same if not more anyways, all for more hassle
Would it not be ideal of they set a bracket for a 140/120mm right above the PSU and a grill for the fan for RAM cooling purposes? The space between the panel and the cooler would be the same as the PSU height, I suppose.
Nice vid Nick! I always get a 2 for 1, a Build and my subwoofer flex! good music in this one too! Hi Klaire!
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Wouldn't Thermals be better if you switched the Rad to Intake and installed the 120/140MM slim fan as exhaust pointed up?
Nope
Great video, but what a waste of money this case is for atx/m-atx... you just loose all those slots.
Is the "extra PCIe riser cable for Micro-ATX and ATX setup" included with the PCIe 4.0 SKU/bundle?
What's the point of putting in a full size motherboard if all the pcie slots get blocked and you won't be able to use the board fully...
Can plug in 4 monitors in this PC case or does it restrict the GPU ports?
You said you can add a 360mm radiator to this case?
I have a technical question, will the 180mm Corsair HX1000-1000 watt power supply and 240mm Arctic liquid cooling come into this case?
I know I should buy a sfx psu to use with a atx motherboard but i just wanted to know if it could fit at all. would be really cool to just shove everything i already own into this case initially even if its super tight.
im ready to migrate my oven box from q500l to this case. i like small footprint but prefer an ATX board. there were options but like sliger case but those are hard to find at least from where I'm from. the orig SSD was readliy available and was easy to grab one. so I have my hopes this would be too.
Question: what happens if the GPU is thicker than 1.8 slots? Does that mean only 1 rad can be used on the front side, without also adding on the right side?
Can I know about riser cable name? Is it ssupd riser cable 270mm length? in description of ssupd, if you build atx m/b system, you need to install the riser cable to 2nd slot on your m/b. but your video installed first slot. so I want to know about riser cable your system.
looks so cool would like to try a build in this.
Hi. What size pcie riser did you use on your build with the atx? Thanks
hello friend. how long is the pcie4 riser cable that you have shown on this video to install your graphics card behind the case. thanks
Can an mATX motherboard and an ATX power supply fit together?
This is barely doable, but must be very janky. In SSUPD website's photos, an ATX psu + ITX mobo are wedged together, so ATX psu + mATX mobo... nah.
@@RobBroderick44 hmm, thansk for the info, I asked because SFX PSUs are very expensive compared to ATX and they also offer less power, sure 1600W is unnecessary but 850W or 1000W is MUCH more expensive in SFX form than ATX, mITX boards are also more expensive but they also have more high end features than entry level mATX or even ATX.
im using the original love it great work guys
Would it be possible to use a liquid cooled GPU in this configuration, given the case support for dual radiators? I know SSUPD makes an external bracket for a 360mm rad, but if it can all fit inside it would be a little cleaner.
Which color of this case are you using? Grey or black? Thanks!
Nice Video, that show of the case in a decent manner, but you really should have shown how the display and hdmi cables connect to the gpu since this is probably the biggest negative of this case layout.
The case seems pretty fragile and kind of sketch especially when you had to mount the Sff power supply and the radiator. For the price I expect something much better in terms of build quality and it is very dissapointing, that they do not have a nice solution for the Hdmi and Display cables.
do you know what the "gpu baffle" is? I have an XFX MERC RX 6800 (340mm long), and im not seeing how this is going to fit. in the case description on the SSUPD website it doesnt say it supports that long of a card, but in your case description it does. Thanks!
Nick did you get a creator set of LTT scrrwdrivers or did you buy one? Yours looks red so it seems creator.
We got the creator edition and the retail ones from LTT because we are on floatplane 😉
That riser and PSU are making me uncomfortable lol I'd personally go a little longer and go around the PSU myself but for gen4 that'll cost ya
nice video! do you think a matx build with a low profile big shuriken 3 ana a rx6700xt or 6800 would be fine with termals, there is no space for intake fan thats why i want to ask thx.
I think you should revisit this case and do the same setup with an itx motherboard. And also remove the gpu covers from the gpu slots
You can just watch our Meshlicious videos if you want ITX mate
@@GearSeekers well if thats the case. I look forward to you doing a itx build in this case with the same layout. As well as using a different gpu.
If I have an MATX board, can I use a standard ATX psu in this case?
Nick as usual showing us he’s the Master of putting oversized things in little things! 😂
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@@KlaireGearSeekers sorry, I couldn’t resist lol 😂
almost looks like it could fit an atx power supply. how is it a atx board with a normal sized gpu and it still looks like there is plenty of air in there?
Always a big fan of sff case🙂
Hoping to build with what I already have, so would a atx psu fit if you use a matx board?
What would the temperature be like if we only used fans?
Seems like a great case for someone who already has an ATX system but doesn't need a motherboard and wants to downsize.
I'm trying to figure out what's the point of a full size ATX motherboard when the bottom slots aren't accessible because of the power supply leaving no room. I would just go m-ITX and call it a day.