Building the CHEAPEST Powdercoating Oven from SCRATCH and saving $7500

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  • @danielboskovski
    @danielboskovski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    First

    • @fillg
      @fillg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First reply to the first comment!

    • @richardburns9772
      @richardburns9772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Didn’t know this is still a thing...grow up idiot

    • @tonymontana897
      @tonymontana897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardburns9772 Hahaha !!

    • @Catch333FL
      @Catch333FL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frekn loser

    • @pelican7481
      @pelican7481 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      &

  • @robertprice9052
    @robertprice9052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    That’s awesome! I started powder coating just hobby stuff and parts to a CJ5 I built. I needed a bigger oven, so I built one out of old highway signs (throw always, I didn’t take signs down) and an old oven a friend gave me. Then I needed a longer one so I used an old school locker and ended up with three ovens with less than $200 in them.
    I powder coated parts to the friend who gave me the signs and oven for his 69’ Cameo he shows. Word got around and now I make a few hundred bucks a month powder coating odds and ends for people. It’s my play money, but what the hell.
    I like your build, great video!

  • @masterofnonetv8361
    @masterofnonetv8361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I built an oven out of a metal trash can and a 110 single burner element. It has a bbq temp gauge in the lid, one big rack to put stuff on and hooks in the underside of the lid to hang stuff from. It works really well. $35 total investment in the oven and I use a $75 dollar harbor freight powder coat gun.

    • @edctravisg
      @edctravisg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Does it get up to temperature or do you have to insulate it?

    • @shaneconrey8856
      @shaneconrey8856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would like to see how you did that, sounds like it's just what I need

    • @gregshirk7220
      @gregshirk7220 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha! I love that! I’m glad it works for ya!

    • @ricanromeo6731
      @ricanromeo6731 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Teach me!!!!!

    • @yoti-fab
      @yoti-fab 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Show us your build. Sounds awesome

  • @BrucePierson
    @BrucePierson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Congratulations on another successful project. It's really rewarding constructing something yourself that works just as well as a commercial unit, but costs a fraction of the price.

  • @tonymontana897
    @tonymontana897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, that is amazing !
    You've given me hope to build my own oven now cos I've got a tonne of stuff I can powder coat rather than pay the expensive rates they charge these days and avoid the rubbish rattle can finish.
    Powder coating is THE best and most durable finish you can have on automotive stuff as well as other industrial bits.
    I also have a BMX frame I'd love to do myself too !

  • @joshuawall6265
    @joshuawall6265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just used this as a guide to build my own oven. Thanks man

  • @PaintmanJohn
    @PaintmanJohn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Suggestion: Add a SLIDE to your center mount where you hang your parts in the oven. That way you can attach your powdered part to the hook faster and more easily. You wont be losing as much heat from the oven since you will be shutting the door faster. Just my $.02

  • @dirtysouthoffroad6402
    @dirtysouthoffroad6402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice bud, I’ve been wanting to build one for all the powder coating I need done. Think I’m going to move forward on it now

  • @danielcgomez
    @danielcgomez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I like how you just come up and say: "I'm gonna build this", and frickin get it done! ...You're a real inspiration Dave!

    • @torkan2
      @torkan2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      have a look at the workshop set up and equipment. the every day do it yourselfer dosnt have that set up.

    • @beezer1201
      @beezer1201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      torkan2 thats the case with most of these DIYer channels.

  • @extensiveinc3777
    @extensiveinc3777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice setup man!! I've been using a standard oven for a few years. The limits on what I can fit really sucks. I've always thought about building one using the old ovens parts. This just sealed the deal for me. Awesome job man!

  • @michaelmackaman6857
    @michaelmackaman6857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dave, I built my own powder coating oven many years ago. sheet metal welded frame, angle iron frame for the door to seal against. household oven element and controls. Rockwool insulation from McMaster Carr. Mine is 3'X3'X2' love it! wheels, suspension parts, crossmembers, but not FC

  • @fwgarage2351
    @fwgarage2351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is awesome man!!! It is a real inspiration to us out here with home garages to expand our capabilities! Great Work!

  • @_j_hilti
    @_j_hilti 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks you for this video I’ve been very interested in making my own powder coating oven for my channel keep up the great work can’t wait to see it all done

  • @meghanfield3216
    @meghanfield3216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    straight to the point on making a decent oven... best video yet.!

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice! I've been needing to do this myself. I like your insulating solution too. Your oven will basically pay for itself after a few uses anyways.

  • @MichaelSmith-wb1es
    @MichaelSmith-wb1es 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job Dave. I've been watching videos on this subject all morning so imagine my surprise finding out you had a how to video on the subject.

  • @Nicedicekid
    @Nicedicekid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive been tryig to locate parts and prices for weeks to build an oven. I never thought about just using an old oven for parts. Your a hellva man! Thx

  • @paul95682
    @paul95682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I built one similar and i used a convection oven fan to get even heating. It made a big difference. FYI

    • @robertremalia4669
      @robertremalia4669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent idea Paul I wanted to build one about the same with that he built but twice as high

    • @greatwhitenorth9159
      @greatwhitenorth9159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you just use the normal convection fan in the regular spot in the middle off the oven? I'm using a doner convection oven but im worried about the convection fan blowing powder off but high temp blowers are more than I want to spend

  • @punkinsgarageandpaint8299
    @punkinsgarageandpaint8299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a AWESOME build!

  • @kylethompson6611
    @kylethompson6611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hopping on this diy powder coating bandwagon and giving my thanks Dave. Much appreciated.

  • @kw686
    @kw686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid I have been contemplating an oven of my own but with different dimensions once again great vid

  • @apiiej19
    @apiiej19 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job man! I live in the netherlands and have a tiny shed where I basically plan on doing the same stuff! I already got a nice compressor, a powdercoating set-up and a used small kitchen oven. I still have to buy a sandblasting cabinet and then I can start powdercoating valvecovers and control arms for my friends! I also tried messing with derusting by submerging metal objects in vinegar but the moment I take it out it instanly rusts again. Have to figure something out for that too. I wish I had as much space as you, I’d definitely build my own oven too!

  • @mhawkins1975
    @mhawkins1975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great oven nice job Dave 👍🏻

  • @timothyoser1500
    @timothyoser1500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the inspiration to get off MY butt and finish my powder coating oven! I've been procrastinating because mostly I am unsure of the electrical works. I'm good with my hands, welding, mechanics building but wiring just baffles me and the older I get the harder it is to see 🤪. However, on the temperature side of your build, if you haven't done so already, my research has a solution. Use a ceiling fan. Get smaller blades, mounted in the bottom, motor on the outside, fan on the inside. Ceiling fans run slowly forever, circulating the air giving you perfect even temperature. Simple, one tiny hole through the box with a small fan!
    Thanks again,
    Tim

  • @shitmonkey
    @shitmonkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an oven in my mind I am wanting to build but mine had 4 heat elements.. I was pleased to see that it can be done with 2.. thanks

  • @nathanaelshumate4607
    @nathanaelshumate4607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how much of a coincidence this is. I am looking to build an oven to coat my own stuff for MY fc lol

  • @h-n-rm9927
    @h-n-rm9927 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's pretty cool. Exciting to think about the possibilities.

  • @jamesripley6472
    @jamesripley6472 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup, you got me at 12:53 with the messenger notification. Made me look.

  • @blacksupersport8311
    @blacksupersport8311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome work Dave !

  • @michaelharris1895
    @michaelharris1895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i saw my soninlaw build one out of an old freezer using electric oven controls after removing the freezer compressor and other non essential stuff. seemed to work well for him.

  • @mattevans7352
    @mattevans7352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got an electric oven from a friend for free. Thinking about following this excellent video for a larger volume. Thanks for the video!

  • @tedbastwock3810
    @tedbastwock3810 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like your oven, great idea putting wheels on it. Yes, it does look professional. Thanks for sharing

  • @BBBoiko2004
    @BBBoiko2004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, Boi! This is one hell of a good DIY video!

  • @michaelmackaman6857
    @michaelmackaman6857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you weld some standoffs and then mount the oven racks to it, you have infinite mounting points for hanging stuff!

  • @buddameyerbuddameyer4598
    @buddameyerbuddameyer4598 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    #2 best content on your channel your first one was with the wiring harness for the 240 where you started and finished on the same vlog way to go Dave.

  • @ncron1109
    @ncron1109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must say this was an awesome video and I might have to look into making my own soon!

  • @senaandsonsauto8582
    @senaandsonsauto8582 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right on. You took out the middle man. Just in convenience alone. Its totally worth it.

  • @RobRocker09
    @RobRocker09 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also seen one guy using the large burners mounted on the side to jump heat, once it reached temp he was able to turn them off. Thanks great video.

  • @KMP_Batang
    @KMP_Batang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow that was a great built you got there, that was awesome

  • @shaneblacklord3313
    @shaneblacklord3313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job Dave!

  • @brianmitchell305
    @brianmitchell305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No large oven is the reason I do not power coat yet. great idea - add this to the project list. thanks.

  • @coreywagner5268
    @coreywagner5268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, thats so awesome!

  • @robertevans6481
    @robertevans6481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Lol...yes I am going there....""WELL DONE"" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @endoskeleton99
    @endoskeleton99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome build! Looks like the perfect size. If you want to bring it to the next level on the cheap, replace the oven controller with a Temperature PID, solid state relay(SSR) and temperature probe. Also pick up a convection fan from an old oven to circulate the air and your temps will be more consistent throughout. The PID setup will keep your temps wayyyy more accurate than the oven controller, and you can pick up the packages that include the PID, SSR, and temp probe for a lot less than you think. 8-) Keep up the good work man!

    • @cskiles
      @cskiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are there specific heating elements you need to run the PID controller?

    • @endoskeleton99
      @endoskeleton99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cskiles It makes no difference. The PID controller just turns the heating elements on and off to keep a consistent temp.

  • @billp2156
    @billp2156 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you that is what I am going to build

  • @williamschwartz8597
    @williamschwartz8597 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, I have a small job I need to do and have been thinking about doing the same. Now I just need to get busy.

  • @tonycummings5427
    @tonycummings5427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. Good idea I think this is what I'll do as well.

  • @DeafeningSounds
    @DeafeningSounds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should put a cage/mesh around the elements.
    Also the oven control will very the temp it won’t hold them at the highest temp.
    You need to ditch the fancy electric control and just have a simple switch set up for heat. Most parts will be baked at the same temp so really on need low and high (this can be done by wiring the elements in series or parallel)

    • @melgross
      @melgross 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Satveer Degun er, no. Really bad idea.

  • @Ceo8203
    @Ceo8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @alleybuilds5370
    @alleybuilds5370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    came out great dave. if i could suggest one thing it would be to put a fan inside. That way all the oven is the same temp plus parts will come out more uniformed.

    • @toddmcinroy2292
      @toddmcinroy2292 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree. Possibly one out of a convection oven. Even heating throughout.

  • @dustintownsend7810
    @dustintownsend7810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I love this
    You could build and sell them ovens wow

  • @moonolyth
    @moonolyth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool oven, building one day..I'll probably mount a small fan outside the oven with the blades on inside to distribut the heat some. (Making sure I don't blow the powder paint off the part of course.).

  • @jaydublis
    @jaydublis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Sir

  • @maddyorlesky6289
    @maddyorlesky6289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your oven definitely looks better then mine haha I used steel stud and mines a 3' cube. I started with my elements just like you had on the top and bottom but ended up changing them and mounted one on each side at the buttom. As well as I put a convection fan in. The regulation from the top to buttom was like 70° is some spots. With the elements on the sides and a fan in there the relation is about 10°

  • @outdoorzone
    @outdoorzone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet oven build! Did you do anything special to the wiring like wire both elements to come on at once instead of only 1 at a time for bake and broil like factory??? It would get to temp fast! But not sure if you would need to wire it for more voltage?

  • @kevinlatinski826
    @kevinlatinski826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 10x10x30 foot batch oven . This is pretty cool

  • @brwhyon
    @brwhyon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice build David, I've been thinking of using the same idea but making a taller box, big enough to get a motorcycle frame in. I might need to find an old double oven just to get the required heat. Thoughts?

  • @damiansgaragebuilds7663
    @damiansgaragebuilds7663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet video.... I modified a regular oven to hold a 24” part ..... currently looking for another free curbside oven so I can stack em and weld em together! 🤙🏼🤙🏼

    • @NightshiftCustom
      @NightshiftCustom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol i started with an oven that i made a box that sits on the open oven door and would give you 2x the space!
      but look into pid temp controllers when you go to upgrade your oven. there cheap and work good at holding the temp

  • @eddiebrandrick4374
    @eddiebrandrick4374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Made a oven using an office cabinet measuring 1100mm x 1000 and used 50mm steel stud wall framing and rockwool insulation. Picked up a free home oven for 1 element, 2 lights. I build a control panel using a PID and SSD relays, amp meters for 2 elements and purchased 1 more element. Works a treat. You did a great job of yours but use a PID to control the temp as home oven temp controls are not accurate.

  • @simon7218
    @simon7218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job dude, thanks for posting. You’ll have people beating your door down once word gets out. Could be a good little earner for you👍

  • @michelevitarelli
    @michelevitarelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You made it seem so easy. Thanks for sharing. What pid controller did you use?

  • @jackmeriustacktheritrix1114
    @jackmeriustacktheritrix1114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The parts oven lol, good job man great videos!

  • @DawgYa1
    @DawgYa1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent job! But you need to ditch the oven control and use something like an AGPtEK Dual Display Digital Programmable Temperature Control TA4-SSR, Amazon has it for about $28, it has over temp alarms and built in sold state relays. Chuck full of features

  • @redcornfarms9072
    @redcornfarms9072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good work Dave. I been wanting to build a similar oven for cerakoting gun parts and knives. Possibly powder coat on down the line. What kinda insulation did you use?

  • @haroldmerrell1257
    @haroldmerrell1257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude that is awesome

  • @moldingpro7208
    @moldingpro7208 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You amaze me. Good job!

  • @thebigfut
    @thebigfut 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like you need a draft control area when applying the coating... So use a fan behind some filters and spray in front of the filters. Other than that it looks great to me.

  • @JDMovation
    @JDMovation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look legit bro. I need to do this👌🏻

  • @michaelmackaman6857
    @michaelmackaman6857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just used a 3/4-1" flat metal seal. nothing else. should use some grill seal, but it has worked fine.

  • @JohnGreenacre1
    @JohnGreenacre1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You really need a PID controller to help you maintain a constant controlled temperature. I built a similar powder coating oven last year the PID co roller is a game changer.

    • @MrRShoaf
      @MrRShoaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. It will probably be a heck of a lot more reliable than the household controler.

  • @leedavies9309
    @leedavies9309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great job dave ,,,you can fetch some ready meals to work now and warm them up aswel

  • @stophatecollaborate5419
    @stophatecollaborate5419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's pretty cool good job

  • @jeffh1000
    @jeffh1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Save $7,500 on your build
    Step 1: buy $7,500 in tools
    Joking, kind of. In all seriousness, great job. Definitely the best build I’ve seen on TH-cam.

  • @dalesmooth55
    @dalesmooth55 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    super dave speak it into existence

  • @downdirty8543
    @downdirty8543 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve watched this three times now. I built one using metal studs and it just wasn’t solid enough. I’ll be going to pickup tubing today and get my frame welded up. Maybe if you get bored you could drop a video explaining the actual wiring of this oven. That would be awesome.

    • @Junkyard_Dave
      @Junkyard_Dave  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just pull everything from the donor oven and transplant it there are only 2 wires for the element and 3 wires for the power and grounding

  • @brianmiller4466
    @brianmiller4466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    “Junkyard” dave has a pretty F’n nice shop 🤨🤨🤨 You’d be surprised what YOU could do with the right gear

    • @davidgould5708
      @davidgould5708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said....junk yard my arse haha

    • @dawndavenport9139
      @dawndavenport9139 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh this kind of comment drives professionals nuts . I have a beautiful wood shop "im a cabinet maker" and when people
      Say shit like " oh the things Incould build" I think "the things you could fuck up"

  • @josephkessinger5973
    @josephkessinger5973 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing that. I always wanted to build one, but they take up so much room, and I do not need to use them often enough to justify the space loss. But, you are correct in that they take so long to get done as powder coaters are always booked out, and it is never convenient to wait as time is precious and scarice too. Now, if i build a new shop, then maybe... (grin) "Honey, I need to build a new shop for my powder coating machine" -Because, why would i build a small building when I may as well build a bigger building I can use for other things too!

    • @NightshiftCustom
      @NightshiftCustom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i use to just leave mine outside lol

  • @danssv8
    @danssv8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can use silicone pipe for a door seal

  • @newellweeks2759
    @newellweeks2759 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is so cool i was wondering if I could do the same thing'''' I'm ..tired of spray paint and it just don't last

  • @punkinsgarageandpaint8299
    @punkinsgarageandpaint8299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be good if you could do a sand blast cabinet that's bigger than normal too

  • @jorgecarmona2447
    @jorgecarmona2447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool, Good Job!!!

  • @daveking7212
    @daveking7212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job dave

  • @frankgenner782
    @frankgenner782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice build, one suggestion Instead of that cheap Insulation you put on that oven I would go out and get HVAC 2" ductboard and some aluminum tape to increase the efficiency.

    • @frankgenner782
      @frankgenner782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also to make it stick to the side of the Oven use 3M spray glue. Spray both the oven and the duct board Let it stand for about 20 to 30 seconds to tack up and then place the duck board onto the sheet metal

  • @bubbazametti
    @bubbazametti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey i did mine with metal 2x4 studs and pop rivets

  • @DRIFT_APPROACH
    @DRIFT_APPROACH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good diy man 👍🏻

  • @ryanamey5024
    @ryanamey5024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have any plans for this? You nailed it, no sense in re-engineering something already perfected. I’m interested in building this.

  • @NightshiftCustom
    @NightshiftCustom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    just a tip put a clear coat on it last a lot longer and shines better too
    also check out pid temp controllers there pretty cheap and work great
    i also made 2 racks that slide on angle iron right at the top so you can load all the parts to the racks and swap as you shoot the powder

  • @davidmccormick1058
    @davidmccormick1058 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use a dishwasher soap tablet to clean the window. It works great! Just dip it in some warm water then rub it all over the glass!

  • @I6N54
    @I6N54 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very impressive 👍

  • @EvgenyE
    @EvgenyE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Потрясающе 👍
    Думал что у меня одного такая мысль, оказывается что это уже есть 😁

  • @scarface-39
    @scarface-39 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks good !!!👍

  • @sethhughes2163
    @sethhughes2163 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm too late BUT... I WATCHED THE WHOLE " SCHPEEL " OF YOUR VIDEO!
    LOVED IT, BUILT MINE OUT OF POLISHED STAINLESS 304L !,
    Respectfully, Seth.

  • @uyuck
    @uyuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looks better than the oven i built. I went cheap with two free ovens, just cut the top of one, bottom of the other stacked and welded. i can bake on the lower unit and broil on the top heats up in 5 min

  • @andrewbeal2717
    @andrewbeal2717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job dave from uk.

  • @hardknox1917
    @hardknox1917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well damn , nice vid my guy

  • @cbarr0288
    @cbarr0288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks great , but surprised you didn’t go larger with the oven as to fit up to 4 wheels at once

  • @christophmeirich5928
    @christophmeirich5928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool, Dave!!! Greetings from germany 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @jamesvanhoose3132
    @jamesvanhoose3132 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice. How long did it take to come up to temp? And how long did it take for the part to flow out?

  • @ericl3936
    @ericl3936 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool oven dave

  • @KuroDensetsu
    @KuroDensetsu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should just replace the oven controls with a cheap PID controller. You could get way more consistent temps, and not have to worry about temperature readout.