Is At-Home Powdercoating Worth It?

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    If the title was too vague and cryptic for you, we are doing some powdercoating today. we try a DIY method to powder coat at home with a regular household oven and parts from your local hardware store. if that wasn't enough, we take a trip to visit a professional powder coating shop and take a look at all the fancy shiny tools that Zach Jobe doesn't get to use. sure, a blast cabinet, chemical stripping tank, and $9000 powder coating gun would be helpful, but when have we ever made Zach's ife easy? Nevertheless, Zach is stacking his DIY powder coating skills up against the pro for your enjoyment. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!
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  • @robcrockerracing5020
    @robcrockerracing5020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2212

    Chris is my cousin in law, and he’s put an insane amount of time and effort into growing his business from its humble roots as a side project in the garage. Super stoked to see his hard work pay off!!

    • @user-so9cy7ec8z
      @user-so9cy7ec8z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      He came across really genuine, friendly, professional and humble. Wish they would make another episode with him

    • @ethelryan257
      @ethelryan257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      No question about it, he is the definition of professional.

    • @velocitypowdercoating7670
      @velocitypowdercoating7670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@ethelryan257 Thank you!

    • @StruggleGarage
      @StruggleGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@velocitypowdercoating7670 I see you only have 1 vid on your channel. I was hoping you made videos. You should do aesthetic based videos on powder coating things. I would watch it all day!

    • @cmcz1207
      @cmcz1207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@velocitypowdercoating7670 you should definitely throw up some videos on the process on your channel.

  • @shresthshivashankar945
    @shresthshivashankar945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3814

    I love how you guys are so honest, even including the failed powdercoat attempt. This is what gives donut its shine over other car youtubers!

    • @williamhawley6579
      @williamhawley6579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They fail so we don’t have to

    • @TrojanLube69
      @TrojanLube69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @E Van tell the doc to decrease the dosage.

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Most car channels seem quite honest to me

    • @rebelliousgoat1557
      @rebelliousgoat1557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Devin Niemela does a great job also

    • @TyinAlaska
      @TyinAlaska 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see what you did there.

  • @THEUrinalCake
    @THEUrinalCake ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I'm forever impressed by Zach's willingness to scrap everything during a project and start over if there's been a mistake or other factor that's going to lead to a flawed result. I think most folks would go "eh fuck it close enough" and press onward instead of rolling back and starting again. You can tell he's really dedicated to showing the level of quality that is possible in DIY but also how much effort it takes to achieve it. He's really giving it his all to try and match the professional grade result but also giving a fair appraisal of what is and isn't worth it in terms of effort and cost. I know that's the whole point of this segment but still. Exceptionally well done.

    • @robertneagu5891
      @robertneagu5891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well I mean, he is going to put that in the car so wouldn't you want to make it look as nice as possible?

    • @danburden6402
      @danburden6402 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robertneagu5891 you’d think so but some people just don’t give a shit

    • @DJV94022
      @DJV94022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well i mean a powder coated valve cover means you went the extra mile from spray paint/wrinkle paint so you when you want to show off the vc itll look good i would do the same if im not happy, if its a part with function same thing as well i wouldnt want rust to build up because of my fault for being lazy

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zach seems like such a genuinely good and hardworking guy, I automatically love any video that he’s in. I can really relate to him, I’d like to think that I’m the same kind of person.

  • @Daisuki0u
    @Daisuki0u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +525

    Thank you for this episode, i was planning to paint the valve cover on my mx-5, but did not know professional powder-coating was so cheap, It's clearly a WIN for the pro in my opinion !

    • @scuderia_team
      @scuderia_team 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Yea feels like a no brainer. Not much cost, or time, and you get literally a perfect result. The better example i think wouldve been wheels. Because if its 200 a pop, then diy all the way. But for a vc seems overkill to diy

    • @Burn3r10
      @Burn3r10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@scuderia_team I think that's the big question really. How many parts are you getting done? Though I imagine you might get a discount after so many. haha.

    • @acaza1234
      @acaza1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@scuderia_team yeah but who has an oven that will fit your wheels though to cure it

    • @cainadkins3985
      @cainadkins3985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@acaza1234 one at a time lol I can make a 20 inch pizza why not a 20 inch rim

    • @shadowkillz9606
      @shadowkillz9606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cainadkins3985 You made one 20 inch pizza, meanwhile you'd need to heat up 4 desperate wheels. The time it would took for all 5 is already exhausting.

  • @kangarutan1915
    @kangarutan1915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2001

    Zach's reaction to the fact that getting the valve cover powdercoated was already cheaper than what he'd pay to DIY it immediately got my like. Nearly killed me.

    • @JPelus
      @JPelus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Was not expecting that. Usually DIY is like, "save a little money for a little shit" this one was INSTANTLY "spend more money for more shit."
      I usually like DIY, cuz I like to do stuff. Just anything I can put my hands on in this computer-based world; I want to learn. Maybe I can help a friend or relative.
      This one was just straight: fuck you, get it done.

    • @merylsmith8297
      @merylsmith8297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Really just depends on equipment - honestly, for jumping into ANY sort of hobby or trade, $400 in tools is pretty cheap, and is already going to pay for itself in 2 uses. As long as you arent just using it once then throwing it away, youre probably going to break even at the very least, and definitely save some money in the long run.
      If youre a hands-on person, like learning new skills, and have the space to store the tools, DIY really does seem worth the effort in this case. But of course, theres bound to be some parts you'll have to take to a professional anyway depending on the limitations of your oven size.

    • @josejimenez896
      @josejimenez896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@merylsmith8297 I came here to say this.
      If it's just a one off, it probably doesn't make sense
      However, if you plan to do quite a few parts, then it might start to make more sense. You could also do some parts for friends to try to get some moneies.

    • @merylsmith8297
      @merylsmith8297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @LeoS Seems to a me a more mature reaction than shitting on people for no reason in youtube comments.

    • @baileyf1998
      @baileyf1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda depends though right? If your just doing your valve cover it's cheaper. But would it be the same if you were spraying your wheels or something? Either way I'd probably just get it done. Personally don't have enough stuff that would need powder coating to justify have a oven and the space it would take up

  • @amdstrollo3074
    @amdstrollo3074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +684

    For a 1 time job, the pro was definitely way more worth the time, money and effort, but if you want to build a setup to continuously do more jobs, the DIY is clearly the winner.

    • @hotchef1984
      @hotchef1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I agree with you. If I'm planning on powder coating multiple pieces on a project vehicle it's worth building a diy setup and doing a few rounds of practice pieces. If I just want one thing powder coated pro is probably better. Space would also be a deciding factor.

    • @Tojoblindeye
      @Tojoblindeye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, I wonder if the gun they bought can be modded to run better...

    • @craigon6388
      @craigon6388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Tojoblindeye im not sure about that gun, but i have seen people use the gun from eastwood that is similar in price and it seems to work better.

    • @JohnJames.
      @JohnJames. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the dent pro would be worth it

    • @davo7512
      @davo7512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And if you are good enough at it you could probably make some money from it

  • @ThatCarGuyYT
    @ThatCarGuyYT ปีที่แล้ว +103

    The issue you had with too much powder is because you don’t want horizontal laid parts. The powder in excess must be able to go away and the part need to catch the powder it needs thanks to grounding , also you can build an agitator with a simple rc motor and something that makes it unbalanced and cause vibration. I’m not a pro but I do a ton of power coating for my off-road builds and no one in my area does powder coating so I have no choice. Also steeling the hold dish washer from your wife and buying her a new one helps a lot in the cleaning process😂😂😂😂

    • @Catrik
      @Catrik ปีที่แล้ว

      Since you're doing offroad stuff I'm assuming top visual quality isn't your main priority - what pros do you think powder coat has over 2K paint?

    • @ThatCarGuyYT
      @ThatCarGuyYT ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Catrik for me is toughness even though modern paints are a lot stronger than they used to in some cases. I use powder coating on stuff that will get beaten because it chips out harder and is a little more scratch resistant. Same reason I think people raptors or line x truck beds

    • @muzzytt
      @muzzytt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does the dish washer work good? What do you use in the dish washer to clean the parts?

  • @Frost3D44
    @Frost3D44 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Powder coating is super fun and forgiving. Next time you see over spray in a small spot you can just give it a light blow and the excess usually just flies off. Another solid tip is to start with the weird corners and crevices and end with light spraying over the entire part. Yours looked my great for a diy set up! Keep these types of videos coming!!

  • @daltonmiller5117
    @daltonmiller5117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +852

    I've been doing powdercoating at home for a while now, Eastwood makes a fantastic powdercoating kit that comes with everything you need including masking tape, plugs and 1lb of powder. Pair that with a used oven and a harbor freight sandblast cabinet and you have a setup that will allow you to get good results for years. I highly recommend it for anyone who maybe has multiple projects that they want to paint themselves. Cameron Nimela has a great video showing how to do it well

    • @hensley1175
      @hensley1175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'm doing the same thing and get great results. 70 dollar stove Eastwood kit and the harbor freight sand blaster. Set up works great!!!

    • @michaelevans2989
      @michaelevans2989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@hensley1175 same here just get a turkey fryer to degrease your parts that are oily

    • @ossocinco
      @ossocinco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      His brother has a lot of videos on it as well. I noticed in this video he didnt keep the hopper steady or even with all the shaking which probably didnt help with an even feed

    • @adamtheninjasmith2985
      @adamtheninjasmith2985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol I was just gonna bring up the Eastwood products. I've used them a lot and yeah a blasting cabinet is excellent. The parts have to be clean and grease/whatever free. We have a standard kitchen oven in the family shop we do all kinds of stuff in. I've never tried wheels but valve covers and whatnot have been a breeze. I don't see why we can't do anything that will fit in the oven though 👍

    • @adamtheninjasmith2985
      @adamtheninjasmith2985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelevans2989 fry the parts you're trying to degrease? Lol I see where you're going with that but I just imagine people putting parts in fryer oil 🤣.

  • @joesutton3181
    @joesutton3181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +712

    A few points here from someone who runs a big commercial line.
    That final rinse should be RO/di water. This ensures that any hard minerals in the water from the tap are rinsed off. It’s the stuff that you can’t see that will cause bad adherence and flaking years down the road
    The pre bake is technically called out gassing, this is especially critical with aluminum. This step removes impurities deep inside the metal. With out a pre bake, it will out gas with the powder on it and cause bubbles and bad adhesion, leading to failure of the coating.
    Powder coating it’s more technical that it is made out to be. There is a ton of science involved. Small projects like this are absolutely possible for the small guy.

    • @zee_rowe
      @zee_rowe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      ^ what an excellent response to such a technical insight to powdercoating

    • @johnGemal
      @johnGemal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Great points thank you

    • @buffalophil3630
      @buffalophil3630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hey out of curiosity I also do commercial powder coating we run our ovens at 385 and bake our rims for 30 minutes for powder and 15 for clear..lately we've been getting too many fish eyes how can I fix this??

    • @RandoManFPV
      @RandoManFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zee_rowe I like how people think it's funny what @iwantsex said, but everybody is giving your comment likes and not theirs 🤣 everybody is scared they gonna come after them if they interact with that channel lol

    • @Nick20555
      @Nick20555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I like your comment as I work at a place that does powder coating as well. The only thing I think they forgot to address in the video that is crucial to a lot of applications was the durability. That is one of the main reasons for powder coating and they didn't do a scrap piece to test durability. With hand sanding instead of blasting, I'd be willing to bet the coating didn't adhere nearly as well and will chip off easier.

  • @thor294
    @thor294 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Pro powder coating is priceless especially when you get wheels done

  • @FelixUmbra
    @FelixUmbra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    2:05 Powder coating is an Electro-static adhesion of powderized polymers such as Polyester, Urethanes or even Epoxies.
    An electrical charge is applied to powder as it leaved the spray gun to be applied to an electrically grounded part.
    As a Powder coater I can let you know some of the things I would do if you were to do this DIY.
    Brake clean spray is a friend when getting heavy grease out of tight spaces that your fingers can't get into.
    Prebaking isn't a bad idea for something like a valve cover which has how many years of oil baked into it.
    Getting the part up to the cure temperature of the powder to be used and holding it for about 10 minutes will make sure that any solvents or residues that show themselves during the cure cycle, Won't.
    Don't skimp on masking. It's the easiest thing to do and the hardest thing to fix if you realize AFTER you cure the part.
    Have the cure oven at a higher temperature than you need. Curing the powder isa range of temperature, It might say 400F for 10 minutes, but you can get away with curing it at 375 for 15.
    So the closer you are to that range is also the closer you are to burning the finish.
    Brittle, discolored.
    That is VERY heavy powder BTW. Not the cure, when you were spraying it went straight to the floor. need slightly more air flow, but have to be cautious about the mess without a booth.

    • @toddp5122
      @toddp5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      great info

    • @geoffcowan2384
      @geoffcowan2384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info!

    • @slomo9831
      @slomo9831 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also use a good light source so you see if your powder layer is too thin.

    • @FelixUmbra
      @FelixUmbra ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@slomo9831 Just not so bright that it washes out your view of the part.

    • @slomo9831
      @slomo9831 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FelixUmbra true, I just noticed how dark his working area was. 🙂

  • @jackson.robertson
    @jackson.robertson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Powder coat James, that would be entertaining

    • @Cristian-pp5oo
      @Cristian-pp5oo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That man needs to be protected at all costs

    • @vintageludwig
      @vintageludwig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gotta pre-order that much powder....

    • @jj02mc27
      @jj02mc27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent

  • @MrGman636
    @MrGman636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    The DIY process also doesn't account for the cost of a good compressor, which can be costly for those that don't have one.

    • @creepyloner1979
      @creepyloner1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      you don't actually need a compressor or powdercoat gun to powdercoat.

    • @brianpersson8341
      @brianpersson8341 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But once you have one you can use it for so much

    • @mpr746
      @mpr746 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@creepyloner1979 How would you apply the powder without the powdercoat gun?

    • @Evios62
      @Evios62 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@mpr746 Just throw the powder real hard /s

    • @mpr746
      @mpr746 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Evios62 I'm hoping that is not his answer 🤣

  • @connorwhitaker4432
    @connorwhitaker4432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have been a project engineer in the field of Powdercoating/Ecoating for a few years now and I’m really impressed by this episode. Jobe did a great job of breaking down the important parts of what makes this process work and made it fun and easy to understand! Great job guys, love your content!!

  • @justynswartz4200
    @justynswartz4200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I started working at a powder coating shop a couple weeks ago. I'm a pressure washer right now but get to learn powder coating once a spot opens up. Definitely seen alot of cool stuff already. Loving it there sofar.

    • @airconditioningsounds9316
      @airconditioningsounds9316 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is it going?

    • @sam08g16
      @sam08g16 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@airconditioningsounds9316 apparently he died in a bizarre pressure washing accident

    • @yesca
      @yesca ปีที่แล้ว

      @@airconditioningsounds9316 he just couldn´t handle the pressure

  • @wretchedslippage3255
    @wretchedslippage3255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Hell yeah! The best part for me working at a sandblast and powdercoating place is ive been able to do my wheels, whatever parts I want for FREE BABY!

    • @jaycejohnson3982
      @jaycejohnson3982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can powder coat stuff for free at my school and we have a sandblaster too

    • @jeffrykopis5468
      @jeffrykopis5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that job would be fun. I love pressure washing, and sandblasting, and spray painting stuff. I HATE washing, sanding, or painting anything by HAND, lol!

    • @wretchedslippage3255
      @wretchedslippage3255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeffrykopis5468 I love it. We have a small blast booth like the one in this video and then a big one inside a 40 foot shipping container raised up 10 feet with a grated floor so the sand all falls down into a bin beneath. Anything that can fit through the doors i blast in there its fucking so fun.

    • @jeffrykopis5468
      @jeffrykopis5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wretchedslippage3255 I bet. I know it's (literally) a blast to blow all the dirt, grease, algae, and mouse turds off a painted part or car, then blow the paint and rust off the metal. Very satisfying. And that beautiful finish when it's all done. Money.

  • @arp1052
    @arp1052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I used to powder coat throttle bodies, valve covers and other random things on GM as a side business with my dad. Definitely something that requires the at home person a lot of rinse and repeat in order to do it well.

  • @volcheq2041
    @volcheq2041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I won’t use my parents oven. I did ask, however it made thing awkward. In the end my mother said, “Why are you in my room at 3am talking gibberish”? I explained again but she kept on repeating, “You are in your 40s, go home and use your own oven”.

  • @joeyblack396
    @joeyblack396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    It would be really cool to see how well a medium quality powder gun would do. Somewhere around the $200-$400 range

    • @Gerald.69
      @Gerald.69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You know reviews and other videos exist besides donuts right? look em up dawgg

    • @John15293
      @John15293 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you have to factor in that the pro's do the job all day, so the tools they use often cost a lot more due to them being quicker or less annoying to operate 8 hours a day, rather than just a better quality finish.

  • @ryanamey5024
    @ryanamey5024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I like the honesty, worth the mention though that there’s an in between option for the gun. Eastwood dual voltage is well worth the extra still without breaking the bank

  • @Papajin68
    @Papajin68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    If anyone is considering messing with a basic setup, I've had decent luck with the inexpensive Eastwood gun with a couple of simple mods you can find online to make powder delivery more consistent. A good ground is important for good adherence, so if you can attach directly to a grounding rod, that would be ideal. I just picked up the largest counter top oven I could find, and only do small parts, but it's been nice not having to send the small stuff out as I have quite a lot of miscellaneous brackets and other metal parts that will PC well. I definitely prefer PC to paint when possible. Also you can pick up an assortment of PC plugs and caps fairly inexpensively at Amazon or other places so it might be worth the investment vs. tape if you plan to do more than a couple parts -- incidentally I use them for painting too.

    • @amateurastronaut5006
      @amateurastronaut5006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eastwood makes lots of great stuff.

    • @briand8090
      @briand8090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking that a vibrator taped or glued to the hopper would probable improve powder flow. And yeah, that kind of vibrator. Doesn't have to be an anatomical one, unless you're nasty like that.

  • @japaneseman12
    @japaneseman12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Zach being disappointed when hearing the pro price and realizing he spent that much just for the oven is quite honestly the funniest thing I have every heard in my entire life. I was laughing for like an hour straight. I owe you a beer if you’re ever in Denver.

    • @drister007
      @drister007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      How is that funny? You missed the point. The point is that you would allready have all the tools in the future for the next parts. For any additional part you would only pay around 10 do 20$. And you can get the tools huch cheaper than he did (you can probably find working oven at the scrapyard, or buy it for $30. Anso the poinder coating gun can be chaper that he paid.

    • @timothylollathin9371
      @timothylollathin9371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@drister007I've also seen people combine two ovens on top of each other for bigger parts!

    • @Norgesbeste1
      @Norgesbeste1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agree!! my toutght also. i have made my oven for almost free material @@drister007

    • @robink.9459
      @robink.9459 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drister007I don't get it either. It's like saying it's cheaper to get your tires changed at a shop because an impact gun costs more than that.

  • @jamesbowles1863
    @jamesbowles1863 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You guys are literally the reason I have started doing so many car mods at home myself! Thanks for yet another diy idea to make the wife mad 🤣🤣

  • @benzina5917
    @benzina5917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Home powder coating is great IF you plan on doing it fairly often. I do it all the time and get perfect results. It is super easy and I love that there is almost no drying time. OTOH if you would do it rarely I'd just go to a powder coating shop as the minimum run charges are normally pretty low meaning you don't have to worry about owning equipment including an oven (which never seems to be large enough)

    • @lucky889s9
      @lucky889s9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that's what I thought. Esp with the oven, that you can only fit the tray of meatloaf. Can't go bigger than that unless going industrial

    • @jeffrykopis5468
      @jeffrykopis5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah a car rim won't fit in any house oven that I'm aware of. A larger commercial one of some sort, even used, might be hella expensive. I know there are restaurant supply places that often have used ovens and racks and what not, after doing a reno.

    • @MrChaiguy
      @MrChaiguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, I wouldn't call this a "win" myself. It only makes sense if you're going to powder coating stuff on a fairly regular basis. If you're just doing one car, or one project, just take it to the pro.

  • @AphexHaw3k
    @AphexHaw3k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    $200 is honestly such a good price for a starting 4 cylinder coat!

    • @sinformant
      @sinformant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      😬 clearly west coast pricing. It costs 1/4 that around here. A guy I know how a full set of 18" wheels done in black for $600

    • @daize4743
      @daize4743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sinformant yhea i know a guy that can do it cheaper kind of stuff. nobody trusts that shit

    • @sinformant
      @sinformant ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@daize4743 lol it isn't a guy, there are multiple companies around here

    • @RoronX35
      @RoronX35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea when I got my valve cover done it was 60$ and it lasted a few years

    • @clashclans5238
      @clashclans5238 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s overpriced as fuck .

  • @pixel2plastic832
    @pixel2plastic832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This series is so awesome! I really like that insight from the pros and gives people WHY things cost what they do. Plus Zach always goes max effort🙌

  • @bhcamaro2002
    @bhcamaro2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I never miss a Zack video. He always gives a good explanation of what to do and tries his best. 👍

  • @FatTracksMusic
    @FatTracksMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You know you've got one of the best channels on TH-cam when the sponsorship is literally one of the best parts of the video...
    Pun intended

  • @bigtimber
    @bigtimber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Now that you have the tools, you can powder coat anything for the rest of your life. A lot of the issues he was having can be fixed with experience and maybe some small equipment upgrades if you end up really enjoy it. At least that's how I'm approaching it.

    • @leonkuhlen9478
      @leonkuhlen9478 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the same way , and now that i know that i could buy myself some equipment iam really considering to buy some

  • @99shadows66
    @99shadows66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My son bought an Eastwood powder coating kit and has been having fun powder-coating car parts, tools, and even glassware using the hot flock method. His wife wanted a new stove so he turned his old one into his dedicated powder-coating oven. He is fortunate because he uses a wash tank and sandblaster regularly. These two pieces of equipment make the prep process very easy.

  • @alexlangridge6633
    @alexlangridge6633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as a professional powder coater I really appreciate this video I definitely learned alot when I started so I understand the pain in the beginning

  • @mackie5million625
    @mackie5million625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This new series is great. Love it.

  • @firecharger
    @firecharger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a great series concept. Keep it coming!

  • @abbarasheed8599
    @abbarasheed8599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Let's take a moment to also appreciate the work of the Editors and Sound Engineers at Donut. Their work is top notch. Excellent job guys. Makes me come back for more!

  • @matad311
    @matad311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't even watch the video but DIY powder coating is the defiantly worth it! I started with a Eastwood setup so entry level Quailty spray gun and would sand blast outside with a harbor freight gun. Now I invested into a small oven and sandblasting cabinet in my garage and its so awesome able to quickly do small parts and accessory's. I won't rattle can anything anymore now that I have a setup to coat parts. Now large parts I take to my guy and no way avoiding that with things that are big like suspension components or quad frames.

    • @vciq
      @vciq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could you list to me a decent go to setup to get stated I want to start on brake calipers ! For myself and maybe even turn it into something more seems more than possible to achieve thanks !

  • @chinupofficial4421
    @chinupofficial4421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I'm interested to see how this goes because I've done professional powder coating and at home and doing it diy with professional equipment is a great middle ground

    • @loganmraz3511
      @loganmraz3511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep I learned from a body shop I worked at, and bought a machine to do it at home. As long as you have a big enough oven, and good prep is all it is.

    • @manicmaniac69
      @manicmaniac69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are there any spray systems that are a happy middle ground that can give decent results without paying for the full pro setup?

    • @skylinesolutionsmisguided_6721
      @skylinesolutionsmisguided_6721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What sort of price do u think the lowest u could spend on a diy/professional home powder coating gun that actually is works good and not stupid money

    • @chinupofficial4421
      @chinupofficial4421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skylinesolutionsmisguided_6721 I did this once, around 4k for a full setup. Probably more now with inflation but that's for everything excluding something to do the powder coating in because I already have a building

    • @chinupofficial4421
      @chinupofficial4421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manicmaniac69 I had a brand once I'd have to find them again but you will be paying more around 1300-1500 for a nice personal powder coating system. Good investment for a side job if you figure it out. Powder coat car parts, equipment, anything that requires high heat really

  • @practicalprototypesolution6274
    @practicalprototypesolution6274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In my experience with the HF gun, some of those fisheyes in the powder can be caused by arching a spark from the gun to the part. Usually from trying to shake the hell out of the gun trying to get the powder out. It was super frustrating.
    Eventually I got some good results but it was never without some hassle.

    • @zechsblack5891
      @zechsblack5891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda seems like the powder bottle needs a vibrator taped to it

  • @duskygore
    @duskygore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked a job powder coating for about a year on much bigger stuff. We always clean with acetone never water and use a propane style torch to burn out the gasses and other contaminants deep inside the metal and whatever sand is left from the blast cabinet. Also definitely lay some powder coat primer and sand it down to make sure the final product will not have any impurities. That being said, such a super fun episode to watch as always

  • @l_Spearmint_l
    @l_Spearmint_l 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad that you made this video. I have been looking into getting the equipment to do it myself. The only experience is a few years ago when I used to live in Florida and my buddy did powder coating all the time. He had the professional oven, the chemicals, and the sandblaster. Me starting off I don't have that so this video definitely helped me out with learning what I could achieve and what to spend a little bit more on a better gun because as you said in the video it is honestly worth it. Thank you again for this very helpful video

  • @shagirani5518
    @shagirani5518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This type of content never fails to amaze me.

  • @nicholaskallmyer9865
    @nicholaskallmyer9865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was JUST looking into doing this in my garage. Thanks Zach for making all the mistakes for me!!! Love 🍩

  • @jesperpedersen9552
    @jesperpedersen9552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely love the small 3D animations on all the equipment you use!

  • @robertekew
    @robertekew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    06:35 lol @ that sound effect. I love the honest take; it's one of the reasons why I watch you guys. Thumbs Up!

  • @lilzeus3202
    @lilzeus3202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    i was surprised by how good that looked! I was expecting to see some uneven spots where the gun sprayed too much but it looked great, considering trying this in the future.

  • @silverssonyoutube8438
    @silverssonyoutube8438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    For a home job it looks good. The cheapo gun inconsistency spray doesn't give me confidence

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doing such a powder coating on a home machined part at I would call it awesome.
      The problem I see is, that it is to messy for both private and commercial use.
      As a private person, you likely wont get the volume to justify the mess.
      Going commercial - e.g. finish custom machined parts - scaling it would scale the mess, so...
      Also keeping in mind that the pro only needs 200$ including cleaning.

    • @camdonrivera4569
      @camdonrivera4569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It definitely seems like it would be something you would have to want to do, if you have a project car and you’re passionate about it, and enjoy working on it yourself it doesn’t seem like a bad idea. If you don’t care if somebody else does the work it seems like taking it to a pro is obviously the better option, especially if you don’t plan on powdercoating often cause it was like double the price

  • @-Dwight-Schrute
    @-Dwight-Schrute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this series. Keep them coming!

  • @bakestep
    @bakestep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man seriously. Zach Jobes content on donut is the only content that's worth watching. He does such a good job and actually knows about working on cars, unlike everyone else on donut. Good shit. 👌

  • @calebsutherlandracing
    @calebsutherlandracing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Donut always has the best sponsorship ads, I don’t mind watching them because they make them so funny and interesting

  • @Marioinformer4
    @Marioinformer4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the video, something I thought about during this whole thing is "wear gloves" you can use a stronger degreaser if you wear gloves so it doesnt chew through your hands, and it would make the process a little faster.

  • @Gerald.69
    @Gerald.69 ปีที่แล้ว

    The equipment and experience is everything. Many people who have good equip and do powder coating on the side are more than happy to let you watch and learn when you give them business and a part to coat or 2.

  • @waystadtymphyndir7079
    @waystadtymphyndir7079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learning is life. Thanks guys for the awesome content. Shout out to Chris's business. That's an affordable yes to great work. Be proud and keep going.

  • @aaronburratwood.6957
    @aaronburratwood.6957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Most every shop should have a sandblasting cabinet.

  • @CaffienatedMothman
    @CaffienatedMothman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like this is a prelude to rebuilding Zach's engine with a valve cover that matches the paint.

  • @kevinmelendez5339
    @kevinmelendez5339 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the record, this is the only channel i don't FFW the publicity, dudes i love your creativity.

  • @lharchmage6908
    @lharchmage6908 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started home powder coating in 1998 with the eastwood home kit.
    I have done hundreds of wheels valve covers car frames, truck frames, motorcycles etc .
    Definitely worth it.
    Made my own oven by getting heating elements and regulators form some trashed ovens sheet metal and insulation.

  • @devdoesitbest6974
    @devdoesitbest6974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The important part is that it's not as difficult as it seems. Paint is usually something I fear doing because of the possibility of messing it up but this just shows that you really just need confidence

    • @tracklizard4018
      @tracklizard4018 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah paint is really hard to get right. His diy cover looked like SHIT! Is it good enough? Maybe.. but it's like 1/5 compared to the 4/5 job the pro did.

  • @dualityofmorons
    @dualityofmorons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I Cerakote my valve cover. If it’s good enough for my boom sticks, it good enough for my valve cover. Heat resistant, almost completely scratch proof, and spread wet instead of powder

    • @Tojoblindeye
      @Tojoblindeye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh shit.. ..

    • @dualityofmorons
      @dualityofmorons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tojoblindeye only real issue…price. Cerakote ain’t cheap lol

  • @on_another_level5661
    @on_another_level5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love this channel. A whole team of awesome car guys, making great content.
    As for powder coating, a trip to HF is on my to-do list. 👍

  • @terranbrown8624
    @terranbrown8624 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro they both look good! It’s really cool to put it into prospective, I would consider my self an amateur in the world of cars/trucks but watching y’all’s videos make everything seem doable. Great work DONUT TEAM!!!

  • @n0pe213
    @n0pe213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this series! I’d love to see you guys try more basic car maintenance but using like a subscriber who doesn’t know how to fix cars but can use TH-cam etc. I think that would be more applicable to a larger audience. Like DIY or not brake change when you’ve only ever changed oil. That would help a lot of people!

    • @melkboi8306
      @melkboi8306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean if your watch hi low you can see a lot of that stuff there

    • @ben501st
      @ben501st 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imo Money Pit has done a lot of that and dedicated channels like Chris Fix already do a good job with it. That and having vehicle specific videos is often more helpful than generic how tos.

    • @n0pe213
      @n0pe213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ben501st I’m not suggesting a how to, just a comparison of if it’s worth it to have a pro do it vs yourself. A lot of times when I watch videos like chris fix, 1A auto, or other vehicle specific channels, it ends up being 100x harder than what it looks like in the video and I rather would have just paid. Maybe it’s not as broad as a problem as I thought. Money pit is essentially that, except the boys at donut have a lot of knowledge and some pretty good tools, I think an even more amateur would have a lot of problems with some of the stuff they’ve done.

  • @jonathansmith4737
    @jonathansmith4737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think you totally knocked that Valve cover out of the park Zach.

  • @ianaldrich5919
    @ianaldrich5919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t get enough of this series. You guys are killin it like usual 🤙

  • @austindidio5982
    @austindidio5982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think this is the only channel i watch the ads all the way through cause of how entertaining yet gets the point across.

  • @TaylorHudson
    @TaylorHudson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One DIY hack I've seen for making a powdercoating oven is using a cheap heat gun, and building a box out of styrofoam insulation.

  • @davidhealdjr.513
    @davidhealdjr.513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd be curious to see how the at home job holds up down the line. I've seen some at home powder coat jobs start to flake off after a couple of years.

    • @mohamadhamad770
      @mohamadhamad770 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it’s also because you have to powder clear coat them to preserve the powder coat and finish.

  • @automotiveaffiliation1207
    @automotiveaffiliation1207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That car parts ad was gold! All capitals GOLD!

  • @weekendminitoystruckcarclu4632
    @weekendminitoystruckcarclu4632 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No matter what no one said doing any diy was going to be easy. But for those that don't mind spending the money then I am glad to take your money like any shop while providing a service. If a diy wants help then most shop or guys will give advice here on TH-cam or other platforms I know I do to help anyone out. Now for most diy'ers they roll up there sleeves and get dirty. Doing it by yourself and showing your work is a priceless reaction on anyone's face. Just my 2 cents.

  • @allthemani852
    @allthemani852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is awesome. Wonder if it would be a bit more easy with rims?! I'm considering trying this with a set of rotiform CCVs....

    • @Bralkor
      @Bralkor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'd need to find an oven big enough to fit the wheel into

  • @butchfoster5256
    @butchfoster5256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After you clean it you have to use gloves, the oils in your hand will make powder fail.

  • @sorrytodisappoint
    @sorrytodisappoint 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zach's videos are always so informative and yet so entertaining.

  • @stringham2020
    @stringham2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to powder paint, for a company. Hanging parts and running the assembly line and running one side of a powder booth. Don't miss that job. Lol.. Great video I enjoyed it.

  • @DimZin
    @DimZin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most of the time you pay for the experience and time someone has consumed to learn and other times for the equipment. Doing things yourself may not have the best outcome but it's a learning experience and over time you might reach the level of a pro.

  • @wojtekdobrowolski8084
    @wojtekdobrowolski8084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    to Cameraman/editor: bro, stop zooming in and out so agressively.

  • @turboflush
    @turboflush 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had no idea.
    Reasonable to have it done. No mess.

  • @karlk6860
    @karlk6860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I restore Military trucks and I am in the final stages of a 50 Dodge Power Wagon this one was a complete frame off and rebuilding of every component, 2 year project and doing my own powder coating was a big part. I started with the Eastwood basic kit then upgraded to a Red line gun then built a bigger oven etc. The only parts of my PW that I didnt powder coat myself were the BIB pieces like the diff housing and frame of the truck virtually every other component on the truck was powder coated by me! Powder coating is a truly wonderful way to make metal look beautiful and it last just about forever. I have been at it a whole lot for almost 4 years now and the farther you get into it the more adventurous and creative you get. You also will learn a lot of new questions concerning WHY didnt this metal take the ground like it should have or why did I get a different finish than expected, all I can tell you is everythign your do is more learning and it just keeps getting better all the time! Start getting into it and enjoy the journey I know I sure have and will continue to do so for a very long time!

  • @DBuilds
    @DBuilds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    $200 is the cheapest I've ever heard from anyone. That's actually kinda insanely low priced.

    • @TheDarkPacific
      @TheDarkPacific 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm saying. It's probably because the shop specifically does powdercoating and very little else.

    • @DBuilds
      @DBuilds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDarkPacificbeen to few powder coating places down here and all of them were $600+ for cam covers. So I guess I just need to ship mine to this dude.

    • @TheDarkPacific
      @TheDarkPacific 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DBuilds yah no shit. Like its almost stupid not to, at the price.

    • @rpdallast5965
      @rpdallast5965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DBuilds did you ship your covers to him?do you have any details on how he did?

    • @DBuilds
      @DBuilds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rpdallast5965 nah man still doing performance work to my car. I'll look into it after I'm doing lighting money on fire.

  • @bruhnt5063
    @bruhnt5063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Day 312 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back

  • @DasseemUltor
    @DasseemUltor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've done some powder coating with a Eastwood gun on small parts (catch can, splitter bars & lug nuts). Its fun but messy as heck cos the powder get everywhere. But the sense of satisfaction is priceless. 😀😀

  • @peterbrown4405
    @peterbrown4405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these DIY videos! I’m always willing to give DIY a shot, but these videos save me from stepping out of my lane and spending too much money.

  • @wontonii232
    @wontonii232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how DIY lost on every front and Zach still counted that as a win for DIY 🤣🤡🤡

  • @kazzaAB
    @kazzaAB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That ad was the best thing ever. That actually made my day. Jeremiah the Car therapist

  • @kevindyer1034
    @kevindyer1034 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to comment once my guy had to redo his work, which was his first time powder coating anything. Love it. Knew he could do better after his first go

  • @waynedetorres4165
    @waynedetorres4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just two minutes into this video and based on this ad, I already love this episode lol

  • @4thgradedropout980
    @4thgradedropout980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the best Donut production I have seen. I will say that I've seen 75% of the content on here from the channel's inception. Bravo. The ford GT up to speed is a close second.

  • @JensaRahm
    @JensaRahm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that i Watch this despite i have no plans to powdercoat says alot about this channel and the hosts. So entertaining and interesting everytime.

  • @dillyjameson
    @dillyjameson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was a really cool episode! love this diy series!

  • @jmc2567
    @jmc2567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best wishes to you all, from, Auckland, New Zealand, awesome vid and commentary and what a cool nice guy at the pro shop.cheers for posting🍻🍻🍻🙂🙂🙂

  • @gamezoid1234
    @gamezoid1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    after seeing the reletive ease with he did this project made me way more interested in at home powder coating. I love the look of a good powder coat over painting and I might do this myself if I ever have a good reason to.

  • @calebbrown2983
    @calebbrown2983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven’t actually wanted to try any of these until this one, looks super cool.

  • @rickmaninvasion
    @rickmaninvasion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely loving this series!!!!!!

  • @WojciechHo
    @WojciechHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wednesday is my favorite day of the week again and it's all because of you!

  • @matthewbuttery8529
    @matthewbuttery8529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That ad was pretty damned funny. Glad I didn't skip it.

  • @raulgallardo1659
    @raulgallardo1659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been noticing a lot of attention being brought to powder coating by big channels in recent months. As a someone who owns a powder coating shop i thinks its awesome!! Its kind of hard to explain this process to someone who has never heard of it or seen it being done so thanks Donut Media 🍩 🤘🏻

  • @jordanbutler8828
    @jordanbutler8828 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curious about powder coating and I came across this video. Amazing and I’m now subbed! Thank you!

  • @benodaboy
    @benodaboy ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks soooo much better than I thought it would. Definaltly going to try this on something.

  • @kylelopez3576
    @kylelopez3576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos always looking forward to watching these

  • @aedanhickey5264
    @aedanhickey5264 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need more of these!!

  • @KieranTuohy
    @KieranTuohy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've a stalled resto project and have access to an old oven and I'm now really considering taking on powdercoating parts myself. Think I'd spend a little more on the gun though given I don't have much cost for the oven. Awesome video, loved it.

  • @kene6838
    @kene6838 ปีที่แล้ว

    I try to powder coat all my own parts, just like anything prep is the key. I like the fact that the part is ready to handle unlike paint, and always prebake any part that has been subject to oil or other highly contaminating substance. I use a cheap Sears unit that works great sandblasting is a must.