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Run Linux Apps on your Chromebook
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
- Google has started rolling out Linux app support on Chrome OS for selected Chromebooks. With Project Crostini, Google is adding support for a Linux container that lets you run Linux apps like LibreOffice. Here is my look at what works and what doesn't.
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Chrome - web/cloud apps
Android - mobile/touch apps
Linux - desktop/dev apps
Cool for the future when they get this working as a seamless experience. ChromeOS could become the ultimate OS.
Wouldn't say ultimate since it still has major flaws in Android and linux but i love that google is expanding
@@veryfrozen3271 It's getting close. once USB, audio and vid acceleration is there ... IDK that I would ever need a win or mac laptop at all. On the other hand .... I can't imagine doing heavy audio/video editing without my Win or Mac desktops.
Google, Valve and Collabora really need to work together.
It's really exciting. Hopefully Google will create a real competitor to Windows and Mac OS
Ubuntu and Linux Mint are better :p
@@noraexplora3268 Sure, but this really isn't the same market
Hey Gary, even though I do not understand all of these things, your Gary explains videos are absolutely fascinating to me. I am learning new information each time I watch one of your videos. If Google brings out support for my Acer model cb 571, I think that I might even try it, just to experiment with Linux. Keep these great Gary explains coming!!
ARM based laptops has great potential to become mainstream
I totally agree. I love ARM processors and the Intel m processors. They are the future.
Fast forward to 2021 and now we have the M1 from apple...
Can you convert Rar files or exe or zip files into deb files?
Helpful video thx Gary. FYI I've been running VS Code on my i7 G8 ASUS Chromebox 3 using Developer channel for a couple of weeks now. Right now, to get going quickly, developers should choose Intel based 64-bit Chrome OS devices and install from the terminal. I've also been able to update from the terminal too but not from within VS Code as yet. A few hundred dollars to bring the Chromebox 3 up to 16GB OF RAM & with my dp + HDMI dual monitor set-up I'm ready to code web apps.
Thanks for sharing that. So I guess VS Code, Android Studio and other programs like Sublime Text, Atom.io and even IntelliJ work well on Intel. The good news is that Arm ports are possible, without too much effort (I guess).
Exactly! Storage! Personally, I would be immensely pleased with such a Chromebook like Asus Chromebook Flip C302CA-DH75-G, but with a 512 GB SSD. Maybe with a slightly bigger screen, like by 1 inch, but the main thing is the storage.
A 14" Chromebook with a 1TB M.2 SSD, full HD screen, 2-in-1 capability, i7 processor, 16GB of RAM and a good keyboard would be the ideal mobile web development machine. At that point, Apple would shart itself.
In the next month Chromebooks will be able to access Windows network shares, between that, the cloud, and my 124G USB stick, It's fine for most students and small business tasks.
I have an idea for a video; how is it that Windows 10 can be installed on basically any computer, dating back decades, but Android 8.1 can only be installed on new devices that specifically support it. And Android phones will only get updates for a few years, while Windows just keep going until the computer is totally unusable?
I'm pretty sure I know the answers, but I would love to hear your thoughts on it. And also why Android hasn't decided to become more like Windows in that sense.
Android could be installed on any device, evening going back many years (assuming it has enough RAM and internal storage). The difference is that OEMs have no need to do this. In the smartphone world there is no standard for how a device behaves internally, so each SoC maker and each OEM needs a customized version of Android specifically for that device. In the PC world there is a standard that has developed over many years starting way back with the idea of an "IBM Compatible PC".
Gary Explains Thanks for the answer. I still think there's more to it though.
To me, Android's single biggest issue today is it's comparably terrible security, since devices only get security updates for a few years, even though they are often used for longer than that. And users don't get the latest features, which is also annoying. So I think this issue is worth doing some research on. Like you could talk about how drivers work in Windows vs Android. Then maybe consider if Android drivers need to be custom in order to enable quicker development of new features, or whether it is to improve performance, which is generally more important compared to PC's. If none of that is true, then why haven't Google done anything to fix it? They are not shy to making big changes to their platform, and they could start doing it internally on their pixel lineup before a general release. It could also be opt-in for a few years. It really baffles me that such a plan doesn't exist, and I would love to hear your ideas on it. But I guess I can't force you to make the video ;)
Anton Juul-Naber My understanding is much the same as Gary's--Android isn't properly abstracted from it's lower layers and hardware components (and how they talk to each other) aren't standardized so those lower layers need to be custom built for every device for every Android release. In Android 8.0, Google did properly abstract Android from the underlying hardware, but maintaining the HALs to continue to be compatible with Android going forward still has its challenges. For one, Google has very little influence over component manufacturers; they'd most likely have to build their own SoC to get around these issues for their own devices.
There's also the issue of Android's top layer, that for each device it's essentially a separate 'distro'. Think of it like Ubuntu and an Ubuntu derivative like ElementaryOS. Despite its roots, when Ubuntu gets updated, you can't just update ElementaryOS' underlying Ubuntu; the OS has its own schedule for integrating the updated code. It's a similar situation for Android except that there's an expectation for more immediate integrations. Even if Android did have its underlying hardware issues sorted there's still the issue that while Windows is just Windows, every Android device technically runs its own Android.
Anton Juul-Naber You can install Windows 10 on a PC with an i486 Processor??
maybe a way to use the micro sd card slot on many chromebooks for linux and android storage?
Great video. For those of us without a supported Chromebook a video on Crouton may be a good idea. After setting it all up, calling apps in the Crouton Chrome Extension is pretty powerful stuff.
Thanks for the video, Gary!
Right, so it's sort of Windows on ARM.
Microsoft spoke about virtualization too when it comes to running Win32 programs on Snapdragon processors.
I'm not entirely sure I like running programs non-natively.
Sort of, but not really. A container doesn't do any emulation or code translation, it just isolates the user Linux part from the system Linux part. That way users can't delete files that would break Chrome OS or install things that would break Chrome OS. It is a way to separate it so the rest of the system remains stable and protected.
Gary Explains Fair enough. Well, I can't wait to see the future development. 😁
With this kind of movement I believe Linux will get more traction. Maybe even more than MacOS has. I doubt that it will ever compete with Windows, but Mac seems an easy target in my opinion. The only thing that's missing is interest from large corporations like Adobe, Autodesk, etc. But hopefully soon we'll get that as well if Linux/Chrome OS machines begin selling better.
Chromebooks just become a whole lot better of a buy.
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*Afternoon Professor!!!*
Mark!!!
very good speech for technical
Linux is now in the stable channel
what happens to the chromebooks once fuchsia os comes out
Crostini, looks very promising but it personally can't replace a Windows or Mac computer for me because I need Unity and Xcode (Unity is on Linux but is still in beta and isn't very reliable).
I have everything downloaded and I opened up the terminal once and closed it, I just want to know how to re-open the terminal. I have tried ctrl+alt+T, but that just opens up crosh and I need the linux...Help
thanks for answering my question Gary👌👌👌
Really want to see Steam or Steam in home streaming working on these Chromebooks, whether it be the full Linux client or the Android Steam Link app.
We can install Linux apps from internet? If we can, which file type we have to choose?
Yes. Debian.
You can also use Chromebrew to install a variety of Linux applications (including GUI tools).
Chromebook of yours is ARM right?
Would have been good to test it on an X86 Chromebook.
Steam+ Hollow Knight would be good.
I have a question though , did Chromebooks have specific gpu drivers for that ecosystem or uses Mesa Linux drivers?
Linux Mint Crostini currently has no graphics support whatsoever, so games are a no-go at the moment. Proper support should be coming by the year's end though I couldn't say how exactly they'd go about it.
misc Got it , thanks for the answer
This, after android app support... could be game changer now. At least I hope. As developer, I want to forget windows long time ago (not using for development, but must support).
"Activate Some Flags" which flags? I do not see one specifically called "Experimental Crostini" as shown in video..
Are you on developers mode
Rezire this post was from 8 months ago. i have a new laptop.
Zhari Clay HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahHhahHHhahahajdidjwndnxkwjsbdnxmsenskcndn thats funny
Getting a chromebook for Christmas this year and I'm wondering if adb commands will work in the Linux container. I can then unlock my old phone's bootloader.
Is there an updated version of this video for 2021 ? Cheers Gary.
I've been able to use Crostini on Samsung Chromebook 3!!! Finally!!!
in my opinion... Chrome OS is the future with progressive web apps & webassembly.org/
- android is a bridge between existing android apps and the web as it is, unil, webassembly.org/
- Linux is to allow tools to run on a Chromebook for Developers writing for webassembly.org/
Hi Gary nice video 👍 I have question. Is Android P coming to Sony Xperia XA1?
Brought my first Chromebook in Nov 2011 and it was just what I wanted. Thanks for this wonderful review, sounds very interesting with a chrome with adequate resources. Can it print and scan would be my deal breaker - otherwise better just install a linux desktop on a computer.
Gary can you do a video of how you install lutris on linux please.
Calling Google Docs native, that's the first time I've heard that. :-)
Hi Gary! I would like you to explain why people bother with Chromebooks when regular Linux is better. I had an old computer and I was thinking about using a program on the internet, Nevercloud or something, that would convert it to a chromebook but it didn't even have enough memory for that so I put Lubuntu on it and it works ok and it gets me all the Linux apps and I put the chrome browser on it and I get all the google cloud apts as well. Maybe if they came down on price on the good chromebooks I might get one but most of the good ones are just as expensive as any other computer.
Steam?
this is all great, I just wish ASUS would also roll it out for the slightly older Flip 100.... so I didn't need to upgrade... and I think the only difference was they changed the I/O and I liked the older versions configuration. vs the Flip 101... guess I should have known they would do this after they limited roll out of the Android apps on Chromebooks....
I'd love to see Audacity running on it.
This reminds me of something more like the bash windows subsystem. Low level networking stuff does not work well since that is handled by windows.
This would be very useful to run libre office and Discord.
i couldnt get the es 3.2 version, but i was still able to download krita on my dell 11 chromebook. Thank you for making this video :'V
This is great Thanks for informing us sir !
Gary, can one in Chrome OS use storage on a NAS?
Definitely yes
Mostly NAS come with thunderbolt 3 port. Currently, Windows laptops and MacBooks are the only laptops to have thunderbolt 3, so you need to get a dongle which costs several dollars. There are no chromebooks with thunderbolt 3 which is a real shame, since Google's Pixelbook goes upto a core i7 and a price tag of whopping $1700.
Hi, can you do video how to install sublime text 3 please.
my chromebook crashed / got bricked in the developer chanal
Great job Gary! Very interesting to view. Can you do the same for windows subsystem for linux?
It is on my TODO list!
what happens to your raspberry pi cluster please!!!! make a video on clustures how they works???
Yeah, I still plan to do that... However the example I ended up coding is quite complex and I have been trying to think of something simpler!
ok thanks!!!
you are doing a great job👍
Hello Gary, thanks for your video explaining how to install Linux apps. I've just bougt a Chromebook (Acer R11). It supports Linux out of the box. I've installed Libreoffice the way you described. It works fine but the UI is in English. Is there a way to set the UI language into Dutch?
the container sounds quite a bit like jails or zones on bsd or solaris.
Hi professor ,Can i get the chrome os distro. And install it on my laptop?
Try CloudReady by Neverware, but I don't think it has Android support.
Gary Explains it has no Android Support... I have the Chromium 70th version and I can't find Linux apps... Is a Dell Latitude D620
Sir Gary please do a video on Android One program, how it compares to google pixel and Oem roms?
I have a video on that over on the Android Authority channel.
Does the Samsung Chromebook Plus V2 supports linux on Chromes os? Can you install code blocks? And lastly can u install ubuntu like you can on The Samsung Dex A.K.A Linux on dex beta and have a graphical linux interface( Or maybe in the future)?
What about the graphics support for this kind of a Linux software?
Cool, how well do art apps like inkscape work, im on a intel chromebook, arcer chromebook 14.
Libreoffice installed fine but it won't open. What do I need to do?
can you show us how to use appimage on chromebooks
you can use flatpaks for sure (ive done it)
Will it work if you install a GUI and run VNC server and connect it that server from Chrome OS?🤔
I really need help downloading Libra office to my chromebook
Can you download the xfce4 desktop?
Can I run this tool as a rhel distro?
Can I run terminal in cloudready
1. how do i switch to beta on a chromebook? 2. How do i know if my chromebook supports linux?
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Windows can do all these very seamlessly.
Linux distros are so good if you want to run Linux programs.
First command did not work on Lenovo Flex 11
Google, Valve and Collabora really need to work together.
When will Chromebook be perfect...pls do it fast Google so we don't need pc.
If using a daily driver laptop on a chrome os/linux is 5 years away then gaming on chrome os is 20
@@jalvorson with cloud gaming then?
i want to run jaya on my chrome for interactive broker
the command line on linux and mac are simiar they both understand sudo
1:15 how do I get there?????
Use geany for your ide
Why would anyone want to do this? And then this: running Linux will wear out the onboard emmc memory which is only 16 or 32 gigiabytes in most cases.
DallasPhool removes limitations of chrome os? Gives you more usability of a thing people own? Everything wears out in time anyway.
did you try GIMP?
Trying it now... I will let you know in a few minutes if it works OK.
Yep, all seems to work OK. I installed it, opened a .png, modified it a bit and exported it as a .jpg.
awesome. i can see that being a reason alone to get a chromebook over a more expensive option. glad to hear it works :)
I run gimp on my first gen Asus flip 4gb ram model via sideloading Linux / croton and it works well.
Can I run files as well (e.g. godotengine.org/download/linux) this one? Thanks! :)
Can you run Snaps, Flatpaks & AppImages?
Yes to Flatpak, Snaps aren't working yet and I haven't tried Appimage.
"This can only be run on windows OS"
This is actually inferior to what Microsoft have with their Linux Subsystem on Windows 10 which surprised me.
Matthew Blott does it really tho? Chromebooks run less capable hardware and first gen tech is always junk.
Still no support for Asus C302.... GRRRRRRRRR....
Can linux run android app?
W Dora it's not stable, but there's Anbox
well, when this is really working I might buy one for when I travel
For Debian OS bugs/crashes should be reported via the "reportbug" command, Gary if u could please report the few crashes u observed on aarch64 that would be wonderful. U may also wish to read wiki.debian.org/Arm64Port
I am a google fan😍
I can just remove chrome os and install arch gnu/linux for my liking and for uses than before.
hi
I think it would be just better if Google just build a decent Android Runtime (and maintian it) into Linux..
consumer level, not just a developer tool.
anbox 😎
Fuseteam this is 3rd party right? Might work checking..thanks
Federico Jimbo Smithson yeah it is and it works on most modern pcs
0:05 android is based on Linux...
And?
*kernel
and that too even not pure
Is it possible to have a Kotlin Native ( th-cam.com/video/3K3oQ22nqfo/w-d-xo.html ) program (using GTK3 - github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-native/tree/master/samples/gtk ) run on a Chromebook?
My guess would be that the x86 compiler would work on Intel based Chromebooks and that you can target Arm platforms from that compiler, just like you would on a distro like Ubuntu running on Intel.
developer sector that's why it has such high specifications i5, 8GB, and a HD screen?
the same reason that Microsoft put Linux on windows 10, its for Linux Development environment.
>> Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development (Chrome Dev Summit 2018)
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Chrome OS Stable Channel Gets Linux Apps!
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www.reddit.com/r/Crostini/wiki/getstarted/crostini-enabled-devices
So dissapointing... I hope its linux libraries running on top of chromeos, i dont understand why you dont do it?
Nimrod levy, why?
Sacchi so ill be able to run things like gimp nativly. Although containers share kernel they're still problems achieving the same performance.. chromeos is not exactly opensource all the google components has been tripped away. I dont get it why ots so hard to load some extra software objects at boot time so chromeos will act like full fledged gnu distro and with its all functionality.
Nimrod levy Security. Google even has a number of limitation's on Android's ability to touch ChromeOS but Linux being capable of running unvetted, arbitrary code needed a few extra layers. If performance is your worry, it's largely indistinguishible from native.
19,999th view! WHOOO!!!
VS Code will never run though, lol! Get it? xD
Joel Joseph Reji Been running VS Code on my i7 G8 ASUS Chromebox 3 for a couple of weeks now. Developers should choose Intel based 64-bit Chrome OS devices.
lsd22252 You didn't get it bro🤣
In October of 2018 Google had a data breach, too many hands in the pot and some engineer had an oops, Linux is supposed to be the secure private OS.....I'm a bit confused, why would I want to run Linux on a platform that might puke my information all over the front lawn. I wonder if this is Googles way to swallow up the Linux kernel, to me it's like the spider saying to the fly, "Enter my parlor."
Google did not have a data breach, it was a bug which exposed data unwittingly and there was no evidence that anybody else knew about it. Second, it had nothing to do with Linux.
@@GaryExplains Sir I don't want to get into an argument with you, but I can't see how Google allowing Linux to come load app's is benevolent but rather an inroad to the Linux community first for a bigger market share for itself. How inviting would it be to have the ability to run Steam on a Chromebook, the gaming nerds would be jumping for joy. Secondly Google is all about the Internet of things and so is Canonical what would happen if Google would plop down XX Billion's of dollars and bought Canonical, under the guise that "See we like Linux, and Canonical can help with IoT," like IBM did Red Hat and "Cloud computing". It is too soon to see what happens to Red Hat but becoming "corporatized," usually doesn't end well. I think there are some very sharp teeth behind the smile. I wasn't saying that it was a Linux problem with data breach it was an issue with Google who doesn't care about our personal data and it's odd that the Linux community that is supposed to be about privacy would consider using a platform that is connected with data mining corp like Google.
@@l.d.barneske8qbi5 What phone do you use?
@@GaryExplains I have a do nothing Tracfone, prior to that I had a Casio Brigade G,Zone what an awesome phone I miss that phone, it just gave up the ghost. Now before you ask, I don't Facebook, Twitter, or any such social media absolutely no social media, unless you consider TH-cam a social media, I don't use job finding search engines like Monster or LinkedIn, I don't video stream from places like Hulu. I don't have a Kindle or an Amazon account, I don't have Google home, since you know I use Linux I don't have Cortana. I use Duck Duck go as my search engine. I switched my primary email to Protonmail. Unfortunately I still have a gmail only because prior to 2017 I was elected as a deacon at church, and many of the people in my care are older and they get confused over email changing, my term ends in May of next year then gmail will be gone. Why I don't do all those social things is because I had my ID stolen twice last year, and was part of the Equifax data breach, I have to use Life Lock and all my credit is froze. I use a VPN and sometimes TOR. No I don't visit any web sites that end in .onion. So yes I am very conscience of my privacy.
I don't see the point of Linux on a Chromebook. Who needs Libre office when you've got Google Docs? A lot of this looks like its just for the real computer geeks that don't have anything better to play with.
WTH is beeta??? lol
The British English way of saying Beta. Do you live in a cupboard or something?
Meh. Just get a cheap Linux laptop. Using virtualisation to run Linux apps on a Linux OS. Hilarious concept.
Greedy Google...
every company is greedy