Mercedes M120 vs Toyota 1GZFE V12 Engine: Unveiling the Ultimate Engine Swap

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
  • We took a small deep dive into what makes a good well-rounded engine for swapping into a multitude of different chassis, and while V12’s are being phased out, we took it upon ourselves to create some parts for these amazing sounding engines, while we still can. In this video we highlight some main differences between the Mercedes 6.0-liter M120 V12, and the Toyota 5.0-liter 1GZFE V12 and put our respective input into what we prefer going forward.
    We now have Engine to Transmission swap kits available for both V12 Engines, the Toyota 1GZ-FE V12 and the Mercedes M120 V12 Engine located here:
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    and the Toyota 1GZFE V12 Engine to 350Z 370Z 6-speed Transmission Swap kit here:
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    Here is a link to Hartley Racing Engines (1GZFE V12):
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    Any Questions, don’t hesitate to reach out 803-792-7189,
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  • @brycemueller7330
    @brycemueller7330 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I just bought a 96 Mercedes s600 V12 coupe for $1600. I found this video researching swap options for this motor! Im following this! I have a rust-free 87 Supra I was thinking about trying and swapping the Mercedes motor into!!!

    • @wdblackman
      @wdblackman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have an 89 Sport Roof NA that I contemplated swapping in a V12 as well. Might have to use a BMW engine to make it fit in with the A90 crowd.

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not a bad chassis to do it in, there is a french guy in our V12 chat that has successfully done the swap

    • @lea2666
      @lea2666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins There's an american girl that successfully put a m120 in her 240z too.

  • @mikelmarion
    @mikelmarion 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can’t wait to see the development of these 2 engines!!

  • @Brock1912
    @Brock1912 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh boy, manual swapping my 1992 600SEL has always been a dream. Especially considering the transmission in it is currently shredded.

  • @georgef1176
    @georgef1176 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can thank Hartley Engineering in Australia for the bump in price on those Toyota v12s

    • @allandriver2066
      @allandriver2066 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm Aussie....but Hartley are 100% New Zealand.

  • @calaboot1153
    @calaboot1153 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You always have something wild cooking up!

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey come get this FRS I don't really want to sell it but I'll take $4300 firm for it

  • @glennc7201
    @glennc7201 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I worked for Toyota for 20 years and still prefer most of their products,that said, I am a huge m120 fan. I have an sl600 and I also have 2 complete m120s waiting for projects. I owned many Celica models over the years and I envision an m120 powered 84 gts coupe. I have my sl600 cat delete with otherwise stock exhaust and it sounds good as is,but if I ever drop one of these into something I would go with a longtube header for sure. What manual trans do you use along with your adapter plate?

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Currently we have the 350Z 370Z 6-speed transmission adapter plates for these. check the link in the description, and lead time is about 30 days on V12 stuff right now. I'm excited to come out with some more transmission options as well. A good friend of mine wants a 8HP70 box for his LS430 so I'll probable make that for him as well.

  • @mr70camarors
    @mr70camarors 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am very interested in any project done with the m120.

    • @mumblety96
      @mumblety96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jaguar XJS would be PURRfect with a 6 speed manual. Not so much power that you'd have to modify the rear suspension.

  • @TheShooter466
    @TheShooter466 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is there a version of this engine that gives you a rear sump similar to a F body rear sump on a camaro?

  • @zeecee9479
    @zeecee9479 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been making any 1GZ parts since making this video??

  • @karlvanboxel561
    @karlvanboxel561 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6500$ NZ for a Igzfe in NewZealand crazy. I’ve got a 1 uz fe I paid 1400 for worth a little more. Now but gd value

  • @RubenRodriguez-ul6cv
    @RubenRodriguez-ul6cv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, this is a great video, I always like the M120 engine. I have my project Ferrari 355 that I would like to put a M120 , I been thinking in removing and relocating the gas tank to have more space for this engine because this mid engine vehicle got a really short rear and is a mid engine car.
    Do you think it could be done? I don’t know how long is the M120.
    Thanks for your videos and advice.

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that's not a bad idea the 355 Ferrari engine is pretty amazing though flat-plane crank with 5 valve per cylinder sounds so good. I guess the only thing that would sound better is a over Square v12! The V12 was pretty long I don't have exact numbers but it is going to be substantially longer than the Ferrari engine.

  • @AliasProductions801
    @AliasProductions801 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since this video released the M120s cost the same as 1GZs now hahaha
    That said I’m really looking into a V12 swap for a Lotus Esprit. Hardly anyone makes a transaxle solution for either of these though.
    Only thing I could find was an adapter for a PDK. This is going to be a tough one to get going haha.

  • @dunbarautomotive
    @dunbarautomotive 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Long time no see 😊

  • @BenzAddiction
    @BenzAddiction 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info mate, thank you.

  • @777motorssss
    @777motorssss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you guys make a kit to fit a m120 into a rx8 I’ll buy asap

  • @bobolulu7615
    @bobolulu7615 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats more important, is what is the total length of these engines, from the back of the bellhousing mount surface, to the front of the crankshaft pulley. We need to know if these engines will fit first!!

  • @georgef1176
    @georgef1176 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a 2001 s600 v12 that car was very heavy and still ripped. You’re much smarter to make supporting parts for that engine. They are plentiful and cheap and far better than the Toyota.

  • @bernardwarr4187
    @bernardwarr4187 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to change the cams in those M120, sure will make them wild

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      do you have a lead on some cams? I'm keen!!

    • @dangunit69
      @dangunit69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins It looks like Gooichi is offering a CNC ported head with custom valvetrain, billet camshafts, and ITB options. They are reworking the M120 to rev in the 9-10,000 rpm range, and while I haven't seen their engines run, or seen specific flow/power numbers yet, there might be some options there to suit your needs, so you might want to check them out. Cheers.

    • @mumblety96
      @mumblety96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dangunit69 link?

    • @patrickvanderveen4945
      @patrickvanderveen4945 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollinswhat about the cams of an c36 in-line 6???

  • @mikelmarion
    @mikelmarion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any updates?

  • @Beckerhead
    @Beckerhead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any way to get dimensions on these? Length (bellhousing to front of accessories) width at the widest point and height (oil pan to intake manifolds) and weight (with accessories as sort of a pull out)

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Width on the M120 widest part of the throttle bodies is 32.0625", if you go off of the widest part of the intake manifold no TB it is 24.25". The left side has the oil filter boss sticking out awkwardly which you can relocate easily. Front to back its 31.75". Top of intake to bottom of oil pan is 26.125" these are all rough dimensions please don't use them for anything critical.

    • @randywatsonii3173
      @randywatsonii3173 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thanks for those measurements, that’s a big help for sure.
      You guys wanna do the swap on my C3 for content? I have the M120 with 92xxx.
      Engine bay is empty on the Vette.
      That’d be fantastic lol!
      Anyway thanks for the dimensions

    • @mikelmarion
      @mikelmarion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollinshow do these measurements compare to the 1GZ?

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mikelmarion that's a good question I'll have to open up the scans and measure them accordingly. There is many levels of the 1gz that you can take apart as opposed to the m120 meaning you can take the upper intake manifolds off and create a block off plate to make them shorter in height and then remake the intake plenum. You can also remove the plenum switching valve Reservoir which sticks out to make it a little bit thinner as well.

  • @allandriver2066
    @allandriver2066 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When it breaks (which it will) .....you will regret your choice. I hope you prove me wrong .

  • @jak404
    @jak404 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the weight of the 1gzfe?

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its pretty heavy, I will have to weigh it when I get home, Its got to be near 655ish if my research is correct, +/- 30lbs.

    • @mikelmarion
      @mikelmarion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollinsit’s around 605 lbs I think

  • @dimkanon9093
    @dimkanon9093 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Недавно купил себе за 40к рублей м120, это 500$

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is such a good deal! I wish they were that cheap here in the states!

  • @davydoo81
    @davydoo81 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s pronounced “hale-tech”.

  • @sveingustafson5120
    @sveingustafson5120 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    'promosm'

    • @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins
      @CollinsGarage_Crett_Bollins  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not really, we don't spend any money on advertising for stuff like this, this is really just a passion project before V12's are non-existent anymore.

  • @freestyleskyline
    @freestyleskyline 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    60° V12 buddy. Not v8.... And they make 350ft tq vs 300hp....
    They make 300 at only 1000rpm though

  • @C0rvette454
    @C0rvette454 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sell me a m120