I was doing this 20 years ago, I stopped doing it with stainless steel after learning that the water becomes contaminated with chromium and becomes hazardous waste. Carbon or graphite is better to use.
The plates that are connected with the two nuts and bolts should be non-electrical conductive. It should be nylon so there is no electrical current short between the positive and the negative plates. If using a metal bolt it needs to be covered with a plastic pipe preventing the plates from touching the mounting bolt that holds all of the plates together.
Nice Vid!😀 Takes me back to when I used to do this stuff. I began over 10 years ago. You can produce the HHO, but it's not safe, takes lots of energy to produce, and loses efficiency quickly -unless you can get your hands on some platinum plates. Platinum plates won't break down during electrolysis, so no more brown muck from degraded Stainless Steel plates! Also, what you have here is a wet cell. A dry cell would work out better, and allow you to control the voltage better. Basically, you need to find the sweet spot (can't recall if it's about 2.2V between plates) to balance productivity and heat. The whole thing goes REAL deep! Sigh; it takes a lot of work to get things going right. After which, you learn that your car will fight against you because of the excess Oxygen produced. Yes, the ECU will soon try to set your results back to stock. So, you will need to separate the HH from the O. That means special membranes, that cost.... I finally stopped after realizing that I could simply make pure hydrogen using water + aluminum + drain cleaner. Even then, it's hard to control, unless you powderize the aluminum. But doing that can be costly and dangerous -going into bomb-making territory. Not something I wanna tangle with. I finally gave up on HHO ad Hydrogen. It ate a LOT of my time, but I also learned a lot while doing it. Best I ever got was about 50mpg, I think.
Try building a charcoal gasifier. You can crack enough water to run an 100% on the gas. This is also how I got my start building HHO devices and then I shifted to wood gasification and then later charcoal systems with water injection that produce "water gas" If you want to make a ton of H2 efficiently this is how you do it and anyone can do this. Note to anyone thinking electrolysis works for boosting an ICE., It dont work and you are just wasting your time and will eventually come to that conclusion after you spent gobbs of money and spent tons of time on it.
About separating the H2 from the O2: Cant it be done rather easily by having seperate seperate electrodes in a water container that is open at the bottom, but seperate farther up, so all the o2 bubbles go up one funnel/ hose and all the h2 bubbles up the other?
@@teeshark6584 Yeah teach your kids how to build a gasifier and thats an important skill that will last them the rest of their life. Don't waste your time and money on an HHO device. They can not sustain running an engine nor will they even boost an engine. In the event of a power outage, no operating gas pumps etc. You can generate power on fuel you make your self. Just make fuel prior to the event and store it in 55 Gallon drums with lids. The fuel dont go bad unless you let moisture get in it. If you have never seen an engine run on wood it will blow your mind while waking you up a bit. As we were not taught about this technology in history class. This is nothing new and it ran the world at one point in history. In WW2 this is Europe used to fuel cars, farm equipment, stationary power etc when petroleum supply was cut off. There were over a million gasifiers in operation over there at that time.
Platinum does not corrode ? How do you know this ? I have tried several other metals used in water heating devices and they all attract minerals. Stainless has been by best results.
I was working at a hydrogen start up company in Toronto, same concept, but what they do is use thicker steal plates that they CNC channels to allow for more surface area of metal to water to increase efficiency.
@@vanmam true, however it would be interesting to see hho replace lithium Especially the instance of solar farms as the problem isn’t generating power while the sun is up, it’s of course storing power for when the sun is down
The two screws in the middle are creating a direct short between the plates because each screw is touching both positive and negative plates because they are not insulated from touching the plates at the threads pass through areas!
HHO gas is quite explosive, however, it can be used to cut or weld. If you want pure hydrogen, you need two 4 inch plastic tees. These should be oriented so that the two tees are connected with a 4 inch piece of pipe, and that the bottom ends have fittings, with removable caps, ( for cleaning). The two tees should each have the third opening, oriented straight up, to create two “chimney”. Add about 12 inches of 4 inch pipe, to each tee, and Top each one with a female 4 inch cap, and male plug cap. Drill 2 holes in each plug. One for a wire, and one for a tube, ( one side will produce pure Hydogen, while the other side will produce pure oxygen). These gasses can be moved into a bag, or other suitable container, with the use of diaphragm pump, and stored. This tube is filled with water, and so the two anodes, which are put only a few inches below the water level, connect electrically, through the water, below, however the two gasses are separated because of the shape of the apparatus (called a Bowman’s apparatus), and the fact that all gasses rise, in a liquid. 😁
Your HHO setup looks good, as long as you have PRE-COMPUTER CONTROLLED engines, even if We can DE-COMPUTER some of the new-er Vehicles and go back to "Normally aspirated" engines, because I don't think EV's will last long, there is Not enough Electricity being Made to re-charge them, so it will get to a point where the Government will STOP YOU CHARGING your nice new EV, and say that it is for the Better. The Western Governments are "Pushing" us all toward EV's, but with Basically no new ideas to Actually Make more Electricity for recharging all these EV's, I think it is all a "ruse" to get us out of Petrol or Diesel vehicles, and into Electric vehicles that are Nearly Impossible to maintain yourself, because of all the Computer stuff, and when they have you all in, Make the Entire EV market Fail at the Same time with a Flick of a switch, and Make us all walk or not leave certain areas, where your movements can be CONTROLLED, the English "15 minute cities" is the Starting point, what is NEXT. The Arabs are talking of a New Project called "The Wall" which will be a fully integrated city 170 KM long and can hold 9 Million People, a "Megapolis", I had seen Talked about back in the 80's, how many other Countries are also thinking of this Idea. ??
The frequency used in a hydrogen generator can affect the yield of gas, but it is not the only factor that determines the efficiency of the electrolysis process. Other factors such as the voltage, current, electrode materials, and the quality of water used can also affect the yield. In general, higher frequencies can increase the rate of gas production, but there is an optimal frequency for each hydrogen generator design that maximizes the gas yield. The optimal frequency can vary depending on the size and configuration of the electrodes, the distance between the electrodes, and the properties of the electrolyte solution. Typically, the frequency range for electrolysis of water is between 50 Hz to 10 kHz, but some designs may operate at higher frequencies. It's important to note that the use of high frequencies can also increase the risk of electrical arcing between the electrodes, which can damage the electrodes and reduce the overall efficiency of the system. If you are designing your own hydrogen generator, it is recommended to experiment with different frequencies while monitoring the gas yield and the overall efficiency of the system. This will help you determine the optimal frequency for your specific setup.
Correcto amigo, utilizando la frecuencia adecuada optimiza la producción de hidrógeno, reduce el amperaje de consumo y calentamiento del agua, muy bién
I’ve done this exact experiment. I used stainless steel wire 3/16 diameter and probably took I think 5 feet I had to been to the specific way, but I did put a neutral in between two different polls. There is one flaw in that design once the water temperature exceeds that a boiling a chemical reaction changes, and becomes extremely unstable.
Well you did a lot of thing wrong. First of all you need a square wave signal that is between 5hz and 10hz. Second you need to circulate the water. Third is to separate the gases and only capture the H2 not O.
A lot of comments talk about the water getting so hot it boils. Just think how much energy it takes to boil water. If you’re getting that energy from the cars alternator then it’s getting it from the cars engine, which is getting it from the fuel. This heat is a net energy loss to the system. This means it takes more energy to produce HHO than you recover by burning it in an engine that’s already only 30% efficient. You’re making your cars mileage worse by using these devices. I’ve seen properly done experiments that verify this. Car makers are desperate to produce more fuel efficient cars to meet federal and state regulations. If they thought this technology was possible they would have thrown a billion dollars at it instead of going to complex and expensive hybrids and other technologies.
Very interesting ! You've done almost everything correct so far... NO glass jars ,a bubbler and a battery.... however you need to remember that even though the HHO makes the engine run smoother you will not gain anything in gas mileage unless you reduce the gasoline going into the engine. (everyone forgets that!) if your putting 20 mpg through the carb and add HHO your gas mileage will still show 20MPG ! so you must reduce that amount of gasoline to see better gas mileage. I liked your 1st cell the best, adding the neutral plates in my opinion is a waste of time, your better off just having them all +_+_+_+_+_ through the stack and you did that fantastically !.... Now Plate AREA (surface area of the plates) does relate to how much HHO is produced but only a small amount what has the bigger influence is amperage ! and the closer spacing of the plates of the cell you have the ability to create a heck of alot of HHO there .... if you put 200AMPS of DC into that cell (with larger wires ) you may well be able to run that car without ANY Gasoline ! .... I made a cell, reduced the gasoline going into the engine and achieved 45~48 MPG on a R22 toyota pickup back in the 1980's I figured I needed 12 LPM to achieve running without gas..... so I started building cells and getting a 200amp alternator.. SHTF and I never completed the project..... but, It Can be done ! .... you must keep the cells clean though I cleaned mine about once a month and I used KOH as the electrolyte and adjusted the amperage to 40amps to the cell and I was putting out 4LPM....to achieve that gas mileage.
not 100% true on your 20mpg add hho and still 20mpg, i built one for my Mercedes turbodiesel with no electric voltage whatsoever it added so much power to the motor i have to back off on the accelerator by almost half to stay at normal highway speeds so if you accelerate less you are burning less fuel , I don't tell anyone how I did it and what i use for making the vapor
@@nealapple9192 Potassium Hydroxide (KOH) available on line , I used flakes as it is easier to deal with and desolves in water easy. used as the ACID to make your electrolyte add slowly and watch your amps climb on the amp gauge the more amps you draw the more HHO you will make. it is a STRONG ACID so act accordingly. I used 4" ABS Sewer pipe, caps and removable plugs (pop off plugs)
To be honest, if you kept multiple positives, multiple negatives and enter change the neutrals in between each layer, he would’ve produced 10 times as much like I said the enemy is heat. It works with you and against you the best way I found to do this experiment is using copper housings you can’t see the reaction except in the bubbler. It’s the only way to keep the unit cool enough to continue the process and be efficient I drove from east coast to west coast. I filled up one time ran fully hydrogen boost. It was the one it’s called. I drove over 4000 miles on one tank of gas.
Hmmm... wet or dry cell? What was the electrolyte made of? What voltage between plates? How many miles per gal? Did the water get muddy? Is this setup still working?
i too am curious. I bought an old truck (1990) to experiment with HHO. It was fuel injected and with my set up it burned MORE auto gas then before. I believe it was because the fuel sensors recognized increase in oxygen and just kept dumping more gas to match the oxygen. How can we over come that?
@@pilotegardner you have to build a ecu tuner. There are some good platforms out there based on a raspi and Arduino and allow you to control the fuel at any point and then you run a wide band sensor instead of a normal O2 sensor but it doesn't matter. In the end the extra O2 is consumed burning the hydrogen and the extra power is negated by the fact that you then run less gas and that means leads calories and less combustion power cause hydrogen and oxygen while very very combustible just doesn't do it vs gasoline under high compression ratios. The hydrogen and oxygen will ping and all sorts of fun shit.
@@Viraldanceworlds Funny how I point out a safety concern and all you can do is try to be mean. I say try because you're opinion means nothing to me. So go ahead and try again. 😃
the hands on manufacturing process video was great but i would have liked more thorough commentary. and more info on power source you used to supply the 4kw
Thank You, for your video. Just a little tip on drilling stainless. If you will use water in-lieu of WD40, it won't get as hot & will help your drill bits out. Cutting stainless as well. Learned this years ago from a guy on utoob that worked with alot of stainless & its saved him time cutting and drilling & money for bits and jigsaw blades. Again, nice video!! 👍👍
you are wright but for this project trying to keep containment down is paramount, even grease from handling he needed to re wash the plates. maybe it would help pre drilling to assist the large peck drilling.
I just put a couple of layers of electrical heat shrink wrapping on them, it's quick & easy. As I'm always modifying & changing units from wet to dry cell units.
He instead had bigger holes on half on the plates and glass fiber "washers" between all of them. So the plates are insulated, but if he drops it, or the plates shifts out of plates it will touch the screw and short out
Made one of these with stainless steel wire ...gets an additional 6 -8 MPG on my 2002 Jeep GJ WJ Additionally it cleans out all the carbon in the engine ...Jeep runs great ...90,000 mile since the last tunup
Alguns probleminhas prata funcionamento em carros. 1. Recarga rápida de bateria. 2. Recarga suficiente da bateria para produzir gás suficiente de autonomia. 3. Controle do aquecimento 4. E o mais importante, explosão seca do hidrogênio, fazendo a elevação da temperatura do cabeçote para 600 graus centígrados, provocando deformações no material que não foi feito para essa temperatura.
@@celiovieira3792 Ligar o motor é possivel, mas fazer o carro andar somente com esse gerador que ele fez, NÃO. fora que é burrice gastar 10x mais energia do que o necessario pra remover o hidrogenio da agua
I think that your active plates area is 13*10 cm in 4 stacks. Each one of 4 stacks has 5 series plates. As per the HHO low, the max ampere for your each stack is 10.88A . and more than that is boiling. So 10.88A * 4 stacks = 43.52A . Then 43.52A*12.85V= 559.23 W . Which will generate 1.817 LPM . My humble advice is: Where that you use 5 plates/stack you volte per each 2 plates= 12.85v /4space = 3.21v . the recommended volts = 2.5~2 V. So If you add 1 more plate in each stack you will get more products with same Ampere and same Watts . It will be 2.272 LPM.using 12.85v/5space = 2.57v. I know that you know how to increase to the ampere to rech the 560w . Good luck. I am a H2O producer . My product is "ZX spectrum 200W and 410W" 0.95LPM and 1.95LPM
I also notice you are using an older vehicle that does Not have a computer controlling the Engine, this will work well because a computer STOPS you making any effective output increase. HHO does not seem to work well in Computer cars, because I tried it and even with other electronic devices to trick some of the Sensors it keeps learning that you are Tricking it, and Negates your advantages. So pre 90's cars with No computer you can make big inroads to your economy, new vehicles the Manufacturers INTENTIONALLY make it Impossible.
@@scottcarr3264 No... you're still putting fuel into it, so all it does is back off the pwm cycle for the fuel injectors, therefore using less gasoline, but the idle speed stays the same.
Well you do know if you drill holes in those plates smaller-diameter than the thickness of the plates you're adding surface area and can get more hydrogen production you can actually reduce the weight of each plate by about 80% while increasing the surface area
Cramming such high voltage you will undoubtedly create a lot of heat.. After between , ( 6 to 11 ) hours of run time you're going to produce FOAM ... You need to keep this in mind when designing the whole system layout... Good video, thanks... Thom in Scotland.
Agreed. You need to clear away the bubbles so they don't form huge air gaps. The air gaps lower efficiency, and cause heating on the place due to the air being an insulator Use a mag drive pump to push water through the fins should force the bubbles out quick enough.
@@ShivaTD420 Indeed in principle, then you are correct, yet ... 6 to. 11 hours you get foam, which does not go away, so.. thinking on, how can you escape this conundrum I as you...well I have an answer, but first I offer you a question, a system of HHo, constricted in size, then thinking again a pump as you suggest, with bubbles of foam running tho it will at 12% collapse the pump flow... But I have resolved all of this.. Thom in Scotland.
@@ShivaTD420 hi, this foam is a state of highly charged waters, and will happen with all types of electrodes, stainless steel 316 being most often used, but FOAM is part of every reactor type... After (6 to 11 ) hours running it occurs. Thom in Scotland.
Know-it-alls think they know everything. They feel superior, are dismissive of others' opinions, are unwilling to listen to others, and love to tell others how to do their job. Know-it-alls like to hear themselves talk. This behavior may become so ingrained that it becomes part of the know-it-all's personality. : "I would say that by listening to that motor there that the amateor sprocket is causing interference which in turn causes the combustion line to interfere with the flow in the dynaflow."
@Mr. Robert yeah ignore those fancy pants know it all scientists that think this just an inefficient way to waste a lot of electrical energy to make a little chemical energy. Big oil and big EV just want to hid the fact that with enough fiddling, you can power your car with some water and a few rc batteries.
We need to respect Faraday’s laws As a mathematical simplification of, a 7 plate generator will produce 64 ml/minute of HHO per 1 amp of current. Therefore a 120 watts generator will have a maximum output of 64 ml x 120 amp = 768 ml HHO You need about 12 cm2 of surface area for each watt usage or else your stainless steel plates or titanium will stress and erode Thus for a 120 watt transformer you need a surface area of 12cm2 x 120 = 1440 cm2 1440 cm2 divided by 12 is 120 cm2 Therefore the size of the plates need to be 12 x 10 cm big 4000 watt system needs 120\4000 x 1440 cm2 surface area = 48,000 square cm surface area or 4.8 square meters of stainless steel b!!!!!!
The two central clamping bolts should be plastic bolts or have a plastic tube over the threads to eliminate the direct short at this point making the device not operate where it is shorted between plates.
i agree the main bolts cant be conductive it ruines the ability to even somewhat control n the output you have to fully seperate each plate 1 wire per plate if you need to do that but the person making this obviously has a creative mindset so im sure youll make a much better design if you really put your mind to it also liek you said the more power it takes to make more hho when the water is warmer so there is a preportinal gain in container size to the size of the electrolysis plates system you use so make the water conatiner bigger to keep the water cooler but once you figure out the design of the plates for the electrolysis hho generator youll figure out the rest fairly easier if you pay attention to all the stuff to optomize it! still cool video was hoping to see you make a decently working design tho
you noticed to huh, dunno why these idiots try to baffle us with our own technology, they think they look smart, but they truly dont understand they're making themselves look kinda silly
Está bien lo que hizo, mis observaciones son, 1.- Demasiado voltaje de batería, debe trabajar en 12 volt, que es lo que usa el vehículo, ésa batería debe estar recargándose con el alternador del vehículo, el cual se dañará por el consumo de la celda. 2.- todo el consumo de la celda lo tendrá que reponer el alternador del vehículo por lo tanto no se recomienda mas de 15 amperes 3.- la separación de laminas está bien, sólo que debe asegurar que la placa no se desplace y toque el perno poniendo un separador mas 3.- se requiere de un controlador de pulsos para limitar el consumo de energía y precisamente de ( éso depende el éxito del sistema ) conseguir que el controlador regule el amperaje de consumo que uno le programe, ya sea 15 amp. o unos 20 amp. si se quiere usar mas amperaje lo cual no recomiendo, se deberá cambiar el alternador por uno de mas capacidad de carga, me refiero a amperaje. Y por último, con la cantidad de hidrógeno que se ve produciendo en el video, por lo menos está consumiendo mas de 30 ampéres, con lo cual al cabo de 10 minuto o menos el agua estará hirviendo y perderá toda su eficiencia ya que a medida que el agua se calienta la calidad del hidrógeno disminuye, la ciencia está en un buen controlador CCPWM y refrigerar el agua, que siempre esté a la menor temperatura posible, saludos desde Chile y se les puedo ayudar con sus dudas encantado.
El acero inoxidable es el ultimo en la escala De conductividad. Y a medida que reacciona el agua en la electrolisis, se genera calor. Creando mayor resistencia al flujo de corriente aplicada. Incrementandose De manera exponencial el consumo De energía. Igualmente la temperatura del electrolito. Placas gruesas demandan mayor consumo. Ideal placas De cobre en El (-) y de plata en el (+). La plata el primer elemento en la tabla de conductividad, y el cobre De Segundo. De resto serian ,puros calentadores de agua y generadores de oxalato de Cromo, un desecho canserigeno, que es Ese barro marron que generan las placas, de acero. Cuando se realiza la electrolosis, u oxido reduccion. En periodo de prueba un inversor de polaridad constante para restringir la migracion De cationes. Para minorar el deterioro de las placas y formacion de oxidos. Incluso utilizando agua destilada, al agregar El catalisador., se produce la oxido reduccion aplicando la corriente.
El CCPWM es solo un regulador de intensidad. Cualquier regulador de intensidad funciona bien o limitador De corriente. Mientras las celdas estén bien configuradas generan calor, pero en menor cantidad. Una Buena recirculacion de electroliro y gases disipan el calor en el tanque De reservorio. Recomendable, instalarlo fuera del compartimiento del motor, pues se genera demasiado calor impidiendo la refrigeración de la celda. Si se emplea demasiado catalizador, al pasar el tiempo en La electrolisis, el electrolito se polariza disminuyendo la cantidad de producción de gas. La tensión de carga del vehículo no puede caer por debajo de 13.5 voltios .,con la celda en funcionamiento. Por debajo de ese limite el alternador no es capas de cargar la batería. Tensión no es igual a intensidad. Encender la celda con el motor en marcha, prender las luces y equipamiento del Vehículo y medir el voltaje de La bacteria .si cae por debajo de 13.5 voltios, en ese momento ya se esta descargando la batería. Esa es la prueba definitiva de que el modelo De la celda de hho funcione correctamente. Yo estoy fabricándolas ,con elevadores de tensión , me elevan El voltaje solo para la celda. Y puedo manejar el voltaje y amperage sin darle tanta caída De tensión en el sistema de carga del Vehículo. .
The great thing about a 4000 Watt hydrogen generator is that after you pump that hydrogen up to 10,000 PSI, store it in a tank and then later send what hasn't leaked out to a fuel cell you get 1400 Watts of power back. What a great deal!
Don't worry about the trolls, people like you pushes boundaries of human knowledge. I hope you get good income from TH-cam to continue with your experiments. 😉👌
he's not pushing anything.. this is old tech... we used it for electroplating for decades. probably a century now.... and brown's gas (hydrogen as a fuel) is a 1960's PATENT
In conventional direct current electrolysis, various experimenters achieved a doubling of the gas volume at the same input power when a strong magnetic field acted parallel to the direction of flow of the ions of the electrolyte, i.e. in the same direction. The Lorentz force created a vortex (torsion) on the ions. The magnetic field was generated by neodymium permanent magnets. It was crucial that the correct electrical polarity was applied to the plates. If this is wrong compared to the north and south poles of the magnets, the gas evolution is lower. All processes of gas evolution take place in the Helmholtz bilayer. The Debuye length is also decisive there; thus, among other things, also the plate spacing. The amount of gas emitted can be increased if the electrodes of the electrolyzer are provided with carbon felt. The carbon pores thus increase the total area of the electrodes. A significant increase with high coefficients of performance (COP values) in gas yield is said to occur when the electrolyzer is charged when switching from direct current to nanopulses. This is what two Indian researchers claim. Figure 6 of their paper shows that nanopulse electrolysis is 31.56 times (3156%) more effective than conventional DC electrolysis at the same input power. The extremely steep nanopulses literally exert karate blows on the electrolyte molecules. Of course, this is only possible if space energy makes a significant contribution; because there is no such thing as perpetual motion. gehtanders.de/Downloads/waw-nanopulsDC-HHO-IJEE_13_v3n1.pdf
Great, you've made something that can burn 4000 watts to produce a gas that you'll only get around half the energy back from when burned. Also stainless electrodes means you'll be turning some of the chrome in the anode into carcinogenic hexavalent chrome in your solution. Perfect.
You are way to kind with "around half", calculated he has about 16% conversion efficiency assuming this is pure gas without water vapors in it and this is on the heating value of the gas created.
Even though there's something wrong, i still think this is the best video on hho i've ever seen, i can see you're really intrested in it and you did some research. Love this type of video, and the comment section is just *chef kiss*
mine puts out that constantly.. why can his only take a quick shot? poor design.. (ps the center bolt grounds all the plates together so it would work in the first place, he'as drawing 4000 watts because its a short LOL mines tas 7 amps at 12 volts to make 3x more with half the plate size .. 80 warrs..
Thank you for speaking English some of these DIY videos. There are different languages and I’m a dumb American. I didn’t learn any other language. I have a hard enough time learning English and I’m English speaking.
i put my setup in a clear undersink water filter assembly (thick clear plastic)and held everything together with neoprene washers and nuts/bolts as to not touch the 2. have 1/4" bolts coming out the top of the filter system so i can hook up everything and it already has 3/4" adapters for hoses on top of the undersink water filter unit.
Did you know some Guide or archives about the HHO generators? I made one when i as little and want to build a Bigger one now using the Power from the outlet (DC 220v/10A)
use distilled water , i believe he knows that , tap water is dirty it will attract a lot of garbage to the plates , i tried sea water it's so powerful it made loads of hho but melted my electrodes
Gumamit ka nang hightemp na plastic bolt and nats. Para kahit konti plates ilagay mo mas marami harvest ng HHO. Shorted ka kasi kailangan mo pa punoin ng tubig lagayan mo bago mag create ng hho.
@@albertnario4877 Sana nga Albert magawa ko rin yan someday very interesting kasi $7/gallon na ang unleaded fuel dito. Meron akong 2013 Mazda CX-5 66-speed manual 35 mpg non-hybrid yon ang kakabitan ko ng HHO.
Albert meron na rin akong ilang unedited Shorts and video sa blogs ko. Mga patent-pending kong inventions has no budget to sell Online kaya hopefully it grows on TH-cam. Kumusta na jan sa Mariveles?
look great dude. One side note, it is extremely dangerous wearing gloves around a drill press. If it ever catches it will chew you hand apart. Thanks for sharing.
Ну барабум вряд ли. Что б взорвался водород нужно точное соотношение в процентах. Он очищает его от кислорода через водяной замок(бутылку). Но тут другое. Даже не нужно подобное собирать, что б понять что это не работает! Можно просчитать. Есть все данные в таблицах. Сколько получается водорода электролизом и сколько он может отдать энергии потом сгорая. Так вот. меньше в половину при идеальных условиях. Это видео для идиотов ради заработка на рекламе от ютюба. Все.
@@xxxl495 я в этих делах не спец. Ну так этот кулибин собирает свою приблуду, дома на коленке) в гараже. А ели на это, замахнутся а промышлено,- заводском изотовлении. На ещё привлечь научно и следовательно технический институт
@@ВОИНДОБРА-у1о Зачем привлекать институт? Электролиз изучен и описан век назад. Это самый дорогой способ получения водорода. Очень дорогой. В школе на уроках такой был наглядный эксперимент. Я сам собирал такой на кухне, побаловаться. Энергии полученной таким путем гораздо меньше затраченной. Что тут смотреть? Кстати ещё так ЗЭКи на зоне из лезвий делают и чай кипятят. ещё со времен гулагла.
As an engineer, I'm not sure what people are thinking here?? Some people appear to be doing this, just as an experiment, to better understand science - which is great, everyone should get involved with science, especially practical science. Go for it. It is great to learn new things, especially to learn by doing. I applaud these people. HOWEVER, there appears to be a second group of people (weirdos), who seem to think that you could somehow use this hydrogen gas, to add to a gasoline engine, to increase MPG?? THESE PEOPLE ARE UNDER SOME MAJOR DELUSIONS. Beware that these people are outright liars. FIRST OFF, you can't just add other fuels, to a gasoline engine and expect it to run. Gasoline engines simply do not work that way. Just because you can add, say nitrous oxide, to a gasoline engine and it runs better - DOES NOT MEAN that you can just add ANYTHING to a gasoline engine and expect it to run, or run better! That is just crazy talk. The fact is - adding most other fuels, to a gasoline engine, will cause the engine to NOT RUN AT ALL! SECONDLY, MORE IMPORTANTLY, REALIZE that it takes LOTS OF ENERGY to create hydrogen by electrolysis. In fact, LOTS MORE ENERGY, than you could possibly save, by using this hydrogen, to supplement a gasoline engine!! ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THIS WILL WORK - IS FULL OF BS AND ARE LIARS. Note that it is a well known fact, that electrolysis is known to be the LEAST efficient way of making Hydrogen gas. Also note that you can ignore the O2 contribution, as Oxygen is found in air - for free! THIRD, what everyone seems to be ignoring, with these claims of crazy MPG numbers, is that even if it worked (and it will not) - you still have to add in the cost of the alternative fuel that you are substituting for gasoline! For Example: If I substitute E85, for Gasoline, but don't add in the cost of the E85, then it is just a total exercise in BS. Or said another way: If you used a gas engine (A), to drive a generator (B), to make electricity (C), to make hydrogen (D), to burn in an internal combustion engine (E), in some kind of wacky experiment to create "more MPG"... The amount of gasoline that you would burn, to make said hydrogen, would be astronomically high. Even if you could burn hydrogen, as 100% efficient (which you cannot, especially in an engine designed for gasoline) - in reality, the amount of gasoline used TO MAKE SAID HYDROGEN - you would end up getting something closer to 1 MPG overall. Yes, 1 mpg or less. That is not a typo. You cannot cheat the laws of thermodynamics! Every change in process (A-to-B-to-C-to-D-to-E), introduces a thermodynamic loss of roughly 35-65%, FOR EVERY STEP. So you are introducing losses of 250-300%, right off the bat, by trying to use this crazy scheme. Yet somehow people think that they can double their MPG, by losing 300% efficiency?? This is the equivalent of a perpetual motion machine, i.e. complete nonsense. There is a reason why (we) engineers don't waste time with such nonsense, as it is a waste of time, for all practical purposes. I don't even need to waste my time doing a a simple back of the napkin calculation! I know this will not work, as I learned the BASICS of thermodynamics in college. Now, if you want to play around with this stuff, to do science, for science's sake... Then I encourage all people to experiment. Hell, it is fun stuff. But the LOSERS, who are telling you that you can double or triple your MPG... They are true idiots, who know nothing, or less than nothing and don't even understand the basics of science. At best, they know just enough, to TOTALLY MISUNDERSTAND the science. They certainly do not have the skills to calculate the actual MPG (which would be a huge loss in MPG). Of course, they would have to actually build something FIRST, which none of them have.
good job . good effort . room for improvement . careful . oxyhydrogen is more volatile than petrol . my question is : in another video . 1 ) show us you close the petrol supply and run entirely on oxyhydrogen 2 ) also before & after physical appearance of stainless steel plates & water .
The car will not run on Hydrogen, there is not enough of it, to run even a small car of a generator like this you would need one the size of a truck, this generator would not even run a lawn mower.
an American fellow did this back in the 70s on a 125cc bike (don't think it was Meyer). it ran well for about 20 mins then started to fail. I believe because petrol despite being fuel lubricates the pistons to some extent. without this the pistons just get eaten up from the friction. also requires radical timing change as HHO is implosive, not explosive. hence why most use only as additive :)
@@chronicsys Petrol in the 70s was also full lead, this increases full density and it is also an upper cylinder lubricant. That same motor would not like current unleaded fuel either. It is not hard to make a motor run on gas, I have had several cars that run on LPG but Hydrogen is 1000 times more difficult to use than LPG. As I stated before simply pumping some gas down the air intake of any motor does not help anything. Hydrogen or HHO is not implosive, where on earth did you get that rubbish from.
great idea with the spacer material. You are using too many neutral plates tho. i get more bubbles with 4 plates for this kind of electrolizer, positive neutral neutral negative. it makes it a theoretical 6.6v but i find 12 works with a little heating which can be offset by extra electrolyte.
When using metal bolts to hold your plate array together you are basically negating the neutral plates and creating a direct short through the array. Using nylon or plastic threaded rod will allow you to isolate the plates in your array.
I commented a wee while ago regarding Foam, A new or newly cleaned system with freshly changed water will get. ( 6 to 11 ) .. hours foam free, after which foam will be forever present in you're system, leaving "ANY" trace of old water will result in near immediate Foam return .. I done experiment quite some years back, I pumped distilled water arround a water container for 12 then 24 hours, no electrical any where in nor near the water ... The pump was outside of the water vessel, now when I did put a cell in this water I got instant foam, very very fine ... Quite significant if you think about it.. I'm not sure if the foam is such a bad thing any way . IV went on to use it differently.. Thom in Scotland
If the electrolyzer cell is pushed beyond its capabilities and creates a fog gas that is the electrolyte will pass through the bubbler and into the engine and crate engine damage. In the bubbler, you should see no cloudiness fog at the top of the bubbler if the bubbler is properly designed to handle the flow of gas with the proper amount of water to extract any fog moisture leaving the electrolyzer. It should also go through a porous plastic secondary filter system to extract moisture to assure a dry gas. The bubbler by itself will not remove all moisture and electrolyte 100% unless it goes through a secondary porous plastic filter system to finalize the dry gas process.
Thanks for Upload this Video ! You can increase hho production enormously if you sonicate the water to be split with ultrasound. There are now reports that this method increases the hydrogen yield by a factor of 14. Or you can reduce the energy required in this way.
Have you tried that? Australian researchers have tested this possibility with ultrasound and achieved an increase in yield gas. That was in several news channels, not only to read on TH-cam.
@@DJENERGY63 ultrasound frequency range is 2 to 18 megahertz. I used 8Mhz and I only get 2% extra, with same watt. Do you suggest a spesial hertz number
@@H2ON_MEA The question is, how do you bring in the ultrasonic frequency? As far as I know, the Australians installed a piezo speaker at the bottom of the electrolysis test rig, driving the sound directly into the electrolyte. The frequencies are me currently not known, but I would try 20-60 kHz. Power anywhere up to 10 W.
@@DJENERGY63 I see . Thanks for that information. I was pulsing the DC in 8KHz . So it is derance than you ment . Can you please right the name of the video from the Australians piezo speaker to search for it 🌹
Maybe I already write here before, I can't remember. Your video is great. What is result, do you gain fuel savings and more power?From my experience, you do it wrong. Just do it on the first way, without neutrals, put there power supply for amp control, and drive around with different amp settings, from 1A to maximum what alternator can handle, to find sweet pot.
Nu este nevoie să faci hidroliză pentru a mări puterea. Poți injecta apă direct în camera de ardere într o cameră de rezervă în chiuloasă. Această apă va expanda imediat după expolozie și va mări volumul gazelor, masa și va reduce consumul carburantului și a noxelor. Se poate și recupera o parte din apă prin distilare.
I watched the same video, in fact this method not only produces hydrogen gas but also oxygen gas. I would like to see the apparatus that produces only hydrogen gas, which is a hydrogen gas that does not contain oxygen gas. The hydrogen gas produced in this way is certainly very dangerous. Flammable because, the hydrogen gas produced in this way already contains oxygen gas that helps burn easily. Good luck friend
Верно, я тоже это заметил, должно было коротнуть, болты не изолированы от пластин просто тупа в ставлены текстоливые шайбы и плюсовые с минусовыми пластинами находятся в К. З
You should connect a water chiller to it some alittle bit distance from the tank. So the water can flow through it. An old radiator would work or. A array of copper tubes from a old air conditioner that's in a ice chest of something else to chill it. Have the water run through the cold. Pipes. And use as a cooler heat sink to not heat up water
4000w ebile controller and supply hooked up to engine as well as ebike motor, power electric motor with 4kwh battery like 72 or 124v and also have 12v hookup for gas or diesel engine
Just so you know that when you implement hho into an modern car you must then reprogram the car's ECU to accept the new fuel you are adding for if you don't the car's ECU will reset everything to a 14.7 to 1 fuel ratio and the new fuel ratio needs to be set to something like 34.1 to 1 fuel ratio or a mixture of the two very different fuel ratios for the best fuel economy and performance. In this new method the car's Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system can function as a way to slow the burn rate of hydrogen back to that of the gasoline fuel it is replacing by adding in more stuff that doesn't support the burning process of the hydrogen fuel. It more or less acts as if you created a traffic jam inside of the car's combustion chamber which prevents the oxygen and hydrogen gas atoms from finding each other too quickly thus slowing down the burn rate of the hydrogen gas when ignited in the presence of oxygen. The exhaust gases are free and the car already comes with an EGR system that just needs to be remapped or boosted to act more quickly and/or be more responsive to the engines rpms and different loading conditions.
@@cissyvaughn6097 Not sure but I'd be willing to bet it does as the ECU is programed for a fuel ratio of 14.7 : 1, and it's fuel curve mapping is also programed with that same ratio in mind. This is why when Bob Boyce put his high output electroliser to a Toyota priest it ran really good at first but over time the fuel economy was worse than it was without the hho being added to the mix as the ECU was now injecting way more fuel into the system to attain that 14.7:1 fuel ratio. Bob's unit put out something like 35 liters per minute if I remember correctly and could run the engine with no fossil fuels at all. When they built the cars we must remember the fuel they use was gasoline or diesel as that is what they designed everything around, but there is a way to slow the burn rate of the hydrogen and that is with the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system. What this does in a nut shell is create a traffic jam inside of the combustion chamber making it harder for the hydrogen and oxygen gases to locate one another by putting stuff into the combustion chamber that doesn't support the combustion process as they physically get in the way of the two gases from coming together.
@@h2opower Not exactly. You can run a lawn mower on H2 adjusting the carb by hand. The number you want isn't the stoichiometric afr but the flammability range which is actually super wide. Unlike gasoline which is very picky about how it explodes H2 isn't picky at all. Most of the challenge recently in this space has been to get the power density up to match gasoline but running engines reliably on H2 is surprisingly easy.
Excellent. I am sure that serial production will start soon and it will be possible to buy such a generator cheaply enough. My sincere congratulations and much success in production. LP Somy
yeah, he had bigger holes in the Neutral plates but I know what you mean, if any of those plates move and you "shorten the Voltage line you could get extreme amps instantly.
The heat is because the positive and negative plates are separate but are not insulated from each other. The bolt is bare and causing a short circuit between the plates.
Since it's water with plenty of electrolytes in it, instead of DI (deionized) water, the short is the water. If it were at a point in the metal, it would glow from the heat or at least boil there. There are good examples of electrolysis rigs in more acidic or basic water. Just follow the methods (sometimes detailed in the supplement,) set the pH and let 'er rip.
Pessoal, ninguém fala isso exatamente mas eu vou dizer aqui. Esse projeto está errado! Os gases da placa positiva não podem misturar-se com os da negativa. Esse é um erro muito perigoso pois o gás hidrogênio é altamente inflamável. O polo negativo sai gás hidrogênio e no polo positivo sai oxigênio, essa mistura é altamente volátil. O correto é separar os gases
Generating hydrogen is a cool school science experiment designed to impress kids and is about as easy as learning how to fart. But being able to safely store and use hydrogen in practical everyday applications (without blowing yourself up) is definitely not as easy as farting.
Actually this technology was suppressed "In 1968 over 40 years ago in the Philippines, Daniel Dingel invented the first known "Water Powered Car" The water powered automobile invented by Mr. Dingel impressed past Filipino leaders such as Ferdinand Marcos and Corazon Aquino, whom expressed optimism for such an innovation, yet according to Daniel Dingel the Filipino government warned that such an invention as the water powered car would not be welcomed due to the agreements in place between the Filipino government, and the IMF (International Monetary Fund) along with the World Bank which prohibits any type of competition for such monopolies that each governing body controls such as fossil (oil) fuel."
@@UserUser-uq5ux Проблема, Сергей, в том, что если произойдет столкновение и двигатель остановится, а генератор будет подключен к аккумулятору, он продолжит вырабатывать HHO и может произойти взрыв. Но если он подключен к генератору, такой опасности не будет. Sorry google translation.
I think we HHO experimenters are missing an important part of the equation. This HHO generator is only part of a system. I think the HHO electrolysis doesn't just create bubbles. this device affects all the tank water as soon as the power is turned on. the HHO generator needs to be long and thin so that the water moving through a rubber pipe is confined only around the stainless plates. This tube is at an incline so the HHO is raising out of the tube. HHO works even better when put under a vacuum (more output). An engine produces a vacuum doesn't it. But with more vacuum than the engine can supply really can supercharge HHO production. OK I believe all the water in the tank is bruised or the molecular bonding of the water inside the HHO tank is at a weakened state after the power is turned on and the bubbles are simply an indication of electrolysis. Some of this water could be siphoned off and further processed by the technology used in common vape devices (small amount of electricity and big cloud of smoke) and sent directly into the intake. And the engine heat, vacuum then pressure will crack much of the water into HHO. Water injection has been used for years in internal combustion engines. but as far as I know they have never been married to an electrolysis tank. Put those 2 devices together small low amperage HHO tank and vape technology.
Very nice work Albert. I think you would find a small fuel saving there, well done. I'd love to build a full hho engine, one that can create enough for propulsion whilst still splitting enough H2O. I bet when you lit the hho your ears hurt!
@@Tom-bb2os Perhaps they'll put a fuel injector inside their fuel injectors and gain 30% power each time just trying to be an intense person. Looking forward to bubbling fairings from solar catalysts...
Is this producing a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gas? Also, do you think it would be difficult or effective to connect some sort of system to circulate the water to a bigger take that has ice in it to keep the temperature down? Would that help the first design work better without increasing demand on load?
That's a Wet Cell, electrolysis start at 1,5 Dcv,if you are putting 12Dcv you are getting, home water heater, after 1,5 volts the rest of the voltage is wasted and goes to heat up the water,
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@@vincecox8376 what are you talking about? If you’re questioning my intelligence, I’m no Einstein but I am also not an idiot. I work in the power generation/transmission industry and have for 15 years but my knowledge is limited on this kind of stuff which is why I’m asking questions to try and better educate myself. Are you a bot? Unhinged? Or just trying to swing your dick around at random people?
: "I would say that by listening to that motor there that the amateor sprocket is causing interference which in turn causes the combustion line to interfere with the flow in the dynaflow."
would love to hear how your project goes when you refine it ,i think really need to reduce that voltage though as 48 will be had to integrate into car in the long term
You do not want to put crap like this into your car ...You will use around 300 watt hours of energy to produce around 2 watt hours worth of hydrogen. Your fuel consumption will actually increase. ... this example would not even produce enough Hydrogen to run a lawn mower.
I actually agree with that. Its not really saving energy unless you're converting it with solar. Cuz it takes to much energy to make it. Unless you ues aluminum. Which is consumed as a chemical reaction. The best way to convert it is very slowly. Wich is fine if you can store it.
I like that it runs clean. And is very clean for a combination motors to run on. I'd love to run a nitrogen set up with my car to run as part of the fuel mixture.
@@CalebGibbsAvenue Why would you want nitrogen ? it is an inert gas and it will hamper combustion. How would you tell your ECU that you have nitrogen or Hydrogen going into your motor ? How would you calibrate your O2 sensors ? Yes Hydrogen is very clean, the biggest problem with it is that you need a lot of it and a motor specifically designed for it. That car would also need a maintenance schedule that would rival that of a fighter jet. Hydrogen is very hard to store and needs a special tank, spaceX or NASA might be able to help you out there but it might cost a bit... good luck
I meant NOS. Obviously, it's not that one. So far as regulating it I'd just use a propane regulator. But onistly I'd have no idea if it work. Just a thought. I'm merely describing the set up I have in mind.
@@therabidsquirrelsage3388 so? it's been 50 years, technology and society is substantially different nowadays compared to back then, times change you petrol snorting idiot.
@@hurvinekspejbl6229 actually it's going to generate more carbon because you have to burn gasoline to create the electricity that creates the hydrogen that then burns without any carbon footprint. Thermodynamics wins again.
I was doing this 20 years ago, I stopped doing it with stainless steel after learning that the water becomes contaminated with chromium and becomes hazardous waste. Carbon or graphite is better to use.
So glad someone mentioned such :D
how dangerous water pollutant explain better sr Tim yorba
trivalent chromium (Cr(III)) ion is considered an essential nutrient in humans for insulin, sugar, and lipid metabolism.
Nikkel is good?
@@cereusareoles9123 is trivalent chromium the same as the chromium used in stainless steel?
The plates that are connected with the two nuts and bolts should be non-electrical conductive. It should be nylon so there is no electrical current short between the positive and the negative plates. If using a metal bolt it needs to be covered with a plastic pipe preventing the plates from touching the mounting bolt that holds all of the plates together.
Nylon absorbs water... Might need a more exotic plastic or ceramic
@@purduephotog 😂
Or simply put a plastic tube through the hole big enough for the bolt to fit through, to insulate it from the plates. I was thinking this as well.
@@petedavis7970 or a slice of heat shrink. However, You want contact every other plate.
That's what I am seeing too. The separators are useless.
Nice Vid!😀
Takes me back to when I used to do this stuff. I began over 10 years ago.
You can produce the HHO, but it's not safe, takes lots of energy to produce, and loses efficiency quickly -unless you can get your hands on some platinum plates. Platinum plates won't break down during electrolysis, so no more brown muck from degraded Stainless Steel plates!
Also, what you have here is a wet cell. A dry cell would work out better, and allow you to control the voltage better. Basically, you need to find the sweet spot (can't recall if it's about 2.2V between plates) to balance productivity and heat. The whole thing goes REAL deep!
Sigh; it takes a lot of work to get things going right. After which, you learn that your car will fight against you because of the excess Oxygen produced. Yes, the ECU will soon try to set your results back to stock.
So, you will need to separate the HH from the O. That means special membranes, that cost....
I finally stopped after realizing that I could simply make pure hydrogen using water + aluminum + drain cleaner. Even then, it's hard to control, unless you powderize the aluminum. But doing that can be costly and dangerous -going into bomb-making territory. Not something I wanna tangle with.
I finally gave up on HHO ad Hydrogen. It ate a LOT of my time, but I also learned a lot while doing it.
Best I ever got was about 50mpg, I think.
Try building a charcoal gasifier. You can crack enough water to run an 100% on the gas. This is also how I got my start building HHO devices and then I shifted to wood gasification and then later charcoal systems with water injection that produce "water gas" If you want to make a ton of H2 efficiently this is how you do it and anyone can do this.
Note to anyone thinking electrolysis works for boosting an ICE., It dont work and you are just wasting your time and will eventually come to that conclusion after you spent gobbs of money and spent tons of time on it.
About separating the H2 from the O2: Cant it be done rather easily by having seperate seperate electrodes in a water container that is open at the bottom, but seperate farther up, so all the o2 bubbles go up one funnel/ hose and all the h2 bubbles up the other?
@@c2h7 Yes but limits your design that will not be very eficient.
@@teeshark6584 Yeah teach your kids how to build a gasifier and thats an important skill that will last them the rest of their life. Don't waste your time and money on an HHO device. They can not sustain running an engine nor will they even boost an engine.
In the event of a power outage, no operating gas pumps etc. You can generate power on fuel you make your self. Just make fuel prior to the event and store it in 55 Gallon drums with lids. The fuel dont go bad unless you let moisture get in it. If you have never seen an engine run on wood it will blow your mind while waking you up a bit. As we were not taught about this technology in history class. This is nothing new and it ran the world at one point in history. In WW2 this is Europe used to fuel cars, farm equipment, stationary power etc when petroleum supply was cut off. There were over a million gasifiers in operation over there at that time.
Platinum does not corrode ? How do you know this ? I have tried several other metals used in water heating devices and they all attract minerals. Stainless has been by best results.
I was working at a hydrogen start up company in Toronto, same concept, but what they do is use thicker steal plates that they CNC channels to allow for more surface area of metal to water to increase efficiency.
Amount of energy from hydrogen is still less than the actual amount of energy from battery
@@vanmam true, however it would be interesting to see hho replace lithium
Especially the instance of solar farms as the problem isn’t generating power while the sun is up, it’s of course storing power for when the sun is down
Did they go out of business?
How can I contact this startup?
@@salimsantouh1406 contact them for what purpose? These don't work. They're all a scam.
The two screws in the middle are creating a direct short between the plates because each screw is touching both positive and negative plates because they are not insulated from touching the plates at the threads pass through areas!
6 plates with small holes, 5 plates with large holes, the short circuit is excluded!
Pls sir reply me
HHO gas is quite explosive, however, it can be used to cut or weld. If you want pure hydrogen, you need two 4 inch plastic tees. These should be oriented so that the two tees are connected with a 4 inch piece of pipe, and that the bottom ends have fittings, with removable caps, ( for cleaning).
The two tees should each have the third opening, oriented straight up, to create two “chimney”.
Add about 12 inches of 4 inch pipe, to each tee, and
Top each one with a female 4 inch cap, and male plug cap. Drill 2 holes in each plug. One for a wire, and one for a tube, ( one side will produce pure Hydogen, while the other side will produce pure oxygen). These gasses can be moved into a bag, or other suitable container, with the use of diaphragm pump, and stored. This tube is filled with water, and so the two anodes, which are put only a few inches below the water level, connect electrically, through the water, below, however the two gasses are separated because of the shape of the apparatus (called a Bowman’s apparatus), and the fact that all gasses rise, in a liquid. 😁
Hoffmann's apparatus😊
Use nylon bolts to hold cell together. Shorting plates to each other.
"1:54 ...you can see he makes the holes bigger on one set of plates so they never touch the bolt. It's all cool. =)" -@Squelchy
Your HHO setup looks good, as long as you have PRE-COMPUTER CONTROLLED engines, even if We can DE-COMPUTER some of the new-er Vehicles and go back to "Normally aspirated" engines, because I don't think EV's will last long, there is Not enough Electricity being Made to re-charge them, so it will get to a point where the Government will STOP YOU CHARGING your nice new EV, and say that it is for the Better. The Western Governments are "Pushing" us all toward EV's, but with Basically no new ideas to Actually Make more Electricity for recharging all these EV's, I think it is all a "ruse" to get us out of Petrol or Diesel vehicles, and into Electric vehicles that are Nearly Impossible to maintain yourself, because of all the Computer stuff, and when they have you all in, Make the Entire EV market Fail at the Same time with a Flick of a switch, and Make us all walk or not leave certain areas, where your movements can be CONTROLLED, the English "15 minute cities" is the Starting point, what is NEXT. The Arabs are talking of a New Project called "The Wall" which will be a fully integrated city 170 KM long and can hold 9 Million People, a "Megapolis", I had seen Talked about back in the 80's, how many other Countries are also thinking of this Idea. ??
The frequency used in a hydrogen generator can affect the yield of gas, but it is not the only factor that determines the efficiency of the electrolysis process. Other factors such as the voltage, current, electrode materials, and the quality of water used can also affect the yield.
In general, higher frequencies can increase the rate of gas production, but there is an optimal frequency for each hydrogen generator design that maximizes the gas yield. The optimal frequency can vary depending on the size and configuration of the electrodes, the distance between the electrodes, and the properties of the electrolyte solution.
Typically, the frequency range for electrolysis of water is between 50 Hz to 10 kHz, but some designs may operate at higher frequencies. It's important to note that the use of high frequencies can also increase the risk of electrical arcing between the electrodes, which can damage the electrodes and reduce the overall efficiency of the system.
If you are designing your own hydrogen generator, it is recommended to experiment with different frequencies while monitoring the gas yield and the overall efficiency of the system. This will help you determine the optimal frequency for your specific setup.
Correcto amigo, utilizando la frecuencia adecuada optimiza la producción de hidrógeno, reduce el amperaje de consumo y calentamiento del agua, muy bién
На постоянном токе , работать не будет? Где-то видел что подключали аккумулятор.
@@Дмитрий-01 right. Dc(batteries) has no frequency.
DC is what is normally used in electrolysis. What frequency are you talking about?
@@techskills4046 freq main poster is Talking about.
I’ve done this exact experiment. I used stainless steel wire 3/16 diameter and probably took I think 5 feet I had to been to the specific way, but I did put a neutral in between two different polls. There is one flaw in that design once the water temperature exceeds that a boiling a chemical reaction changes, and becomes extremely unstable.
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Well you did a lot of thing wrong. First of all you need a square wave signal that is between 5hz and 10hz. Second you need to circulate the water. Third is to separate the gases and only capture the H2 not O.
A lot of comments talk about the water getting so hot it boils. Just think how much energy it takes to boil water. If you’re getting that energy from the cars alternator then it’s getting it from the cars engine, which is getting it from the fuel.
This heat is a net energy loss to the system.
This means it takes more energy to produce HHO than you recover by burning it in an engine that’s already only 30% efficient.
You’re making your cars mileage worse by using these devices. I’ve seen properly done experiments that verify this.
Car makers are desperate to produce more fuel efficient cars to meet federal and state regulations. If they thought this technology was possible they would have thrown a billion dollars at it instead of going to complex and expensive hybrids and other technologies.
Very interesting !
You've done almost everything correct so far... NO glass jars ,a bubbler and a battery....
however you need to remember that even though the HHO makes the engine run smoother
you will not gain anything in gas mileage unless you reduce the gasoline going into the engine.
(everyone forgets that!) if your putting 20 mpg through the carb and add HHO your gas mileage will still show 20MPG ! so you must reduce that amount of gasoline to see better gas mileage. I liked your 1st cell the best, adding the neutral plates in my opinion is a waste of time, your better off just having them all +_+_+_+_+_ through the stack and you did that fantastically !.... Now Plate AREA (surface area of the plates) does relate to how much HHO is produced but only a small amount what has the bigger influence is amperage !
and the closer spacing of the plates of the cell you have the ability to create a heck of alot of HHO there .... if you put 200AMPS of DC into that cell (with larger wires ) you may well be able to run that car without ANY Gasoline ! ....
I made a cell, reduced the gasoline going into the engine and achieved 45~48 MPG on a R22 toyota pickup back in the 1980's I figured I needed 12 LPM to achieve running without gas.....
so I started building cells and getting a 200amp alternator.. SHTF and I never completed the project..... but, It Can be done ! .... you must keep the cells clean though I cleaned mine about once a month and I used KOH as the electrolyte and adjusted the amperage to 40amps to the cell and I was putting out 4LPM....to achieve that gas mileage.
not 100% true on your 20mpg add hho and still 20mpg, i built one for my Mercedes turbodiesel with no electric voltage whatsoever it added so much power to the motor i have to back off on the accelerator by almost half to stay at normal highway speeds so if you accelerate less you are burning less fuel , I don't tell anyone how I did it and what i use for making the vapor
@@tonycavezyou can share with us.
I also drive merc cdi.
It would be helpful to save the plenet from ev
What's KOH
@@nealapple9192 Potassium Hydroxide (KOH) available on line , I used flakes as it is easier to deal with and desolves in water easy. used as the ACID to make your electrolyte add slowly and watch your amps climb
on the amp gauge the more amps you draw the more HHO you will make. it is a STRONG ACID so act accordingly. I used 4" ABS Sewer pipe, caps and removable plugs (pop off plugs)
@@nealapple9192 an electrolyzer, Potassium hydroxide
To be honest, if you kept multiple positives, multiple negatives and enter change the neutrals in between each layer, he would’ve produced 10 times as much like I said the enemy is heat. It works with you and against you the best way I found to do this experiment is using copper housings you can’t see the reaction except in the bubbler. It’s the only way to keep the unit cool enough to continue the process and be efficient I drove from east coast to west coast. I filled up one time ran fully hydrogen boost. It was the one it’s called. I drove over 4000 miles on one tank of gas.
Did you make your own unit or buy one? If you did build one, would you be interested in sharing how you did it?
Hmmm... wet or dry cell? What was the electrolyte made of? What voltage between plates?
How many miles per gal? Did the water get muddy? Is this setup still working?
i too am curious. I bought an old truck (1990) to experiment with HHO. It was fuel injected and with my set up it burned MORE auto gas then before. I believe it was because the fuel sensors recognized increase in oxygen and just kept dumping more gas to match the oxygen. How can we over come that?
@@pilotegardner filter out the o2
@@pilotegardner you have to build a ecu tuner. There are some good platforms out there based on a raspi and Arduino and allow you to control the fuel at any point and then you run a wide band sensor instead of a normal O2 sensor but it doesn't matter. In the end the extra O2 is consumed burning the hydrogen and the extra power is negated by the fact that you then run less gas and that means leads calories and less combustion power cause hydrogen and oxygen while very very combustible just doesn't do it vs gasoline under high compression ratios. The hydrogen and oxygen will ping and all sorts of fun shit.
Wow, producing HHO in an open container and you're wire sparks on contact, good thing there wasn't a lot of gas at the time.
Hahah you are funny and clue less
@@Viraldanceworlds You're hilarious, at least I have my eyebrows.
@@gregorsmith8541 just gose to show your iq
@@Viraldanceworlds Funny how I point out a safety concern and all you can do is try to be mean. I say try because you're opinion means nothing to me. So go ahead and try again. 😃
the hands on manufacturing process video was great but i would have liked more thorough commentary. and more info on power source you used to supply the 4kw
I love the production of hydrogen and the use of a spark to cut the power at the beginning of the video.
Thank You, for your video. Just a little tip on drilling stainless. If you will use water in-lieu of WD40, it won't get as hot & will help your drill bits out. Cutting stainless as well. Learned this years ago from a guy on utoob that worked with alot of stainless & its saved him time cutting and drilling & money for bits and jigsaw blades. Again, nice video!! 👍👍
you are wright but for this project trying to keep containment down is paramount, even grease from handling he needed to re wash the plates. maybe it would help pre drilling to assist the large peck drilling.
You should rough up the exteriors of the plates with a wire brush to increase their surface areas of the plates to increase HHO production.
How did you produce so much gas? How many you have done? How many amperms? Or did you have PWM?
The screws must be insulated with an insulating plastic tube
That's what t hought as well.
I just put a couple of layers of electrical heat shrink wrapping on them, it's quick & easy. As I'm always modifying & changing units from wet to dry cell units.
I used nylon all thread, washers and nuts
Yes the bolt threads may touch the plate at the hole and can short circuit between the +ve and -ve plates.
He instead had bigger holes on half on the plates and glass fiber "washers" between all of them. So the plates are insulated, but if he drops it, or the plates shifts out of plates it will touch the screw and short out
Made one of these with stainless steel wire ...gets an additional 6 -8 MPG on my 2002 Jeep GJ WJ
Additionally it cleans out all the carbon in the engine ...Jeep runs great ...90,000 mile since the last tunup
BS
Dummy who doesn't know the first law is thermodynamics detected.
Alguns probleminhas prata funcionamento em carros.
1. Recarga rápida de bateria.
2. Recarga suficiente da bateria para produzir gás suficiente de autonomia.
3. Controle do aquecimento
4. E o mais importante, explosão seca do hidrogênio, fazendo a elevação da temperatura do cabeçote para 600 graus centígrados, provocando deformações no material que não foi feito para essa temperatura.
Ele mostrou que e possível
o gás HHO deve ser misturado com o gás de escape e, assim, reduz a temperatura na cabeça
@@celiovieira3792 Ligar o motor é possivel, mas fazer o carro andar somente com esse gerador que ele fez, NÃO. fora que é burrice gastar 10x mais energia do que o necessario pra remover o hidrogenio da agua
I think that your active plates area is 13*10 cm in 4 stacks. Each one of 4 stacks has 5 series plates.
As per the HHO low, the max ampere for your each stack is 10.88A . and more than that is boiling.
So 10.88A * 4 stacks = 43.52A . Then 43.52A*12.85V= 559.23 W . Which will generate 1.817 LPM .
My humble advice is:
Where that you use 5 plates/stack you volte per each 2 plates= 12.85v /4space = 3.21v . the recommended volts = 2.5~2 V. So If you add 1 more plate in each stack you will get more products with same Ampere and same Watts . It will be 2.272 LPM.using 12.85v/5space = 2.57v.
I know that you know how to increase to the ampere to rech the 560w .
Good luck.
I am a H2O producer . My product is "ZX spectrum 200W and 410W" 0.95LPM and 1.95LPM
I also notice you are using an older vehicle that does Not have a computer controlling the Engine, this will work well because a computer STOPS you making any effective output increase. HHO does not seem to work well in Computer cars, because I tried it and even with other electronic devices to trick some of the Sensors it keeps learning that you are Tricking it, and Negates your advantages. So pre 90's cars with No computer you can make big inroads to your economy, new vehicles the Manufacturers INTENTIONALLY make it Impossible.
@@scottcarr3264 No... you're still putting fuel into it, so all it does is back off the pwm cycle for the fuel injectors, therefore using less gasoline, but the idle speed stays the same.
where can i find the formulas tha you are using to create more efficient hho generators?
Can i contact you?
Well you do know if you drill holes in those plates smaller-diameter than the thickness of the plates you're adding surface area and can get more hydrogen production you can actually reduce the weight of each plate by about 80% while increasing the surface area
You most place metal bolts in plastic pipes, isolate heads and nuts and after place tham all in holes in plates.
You give more than you get. What's the benefit? The cooling problem is also a gift.
Cramming such high voltage you will undoubtedly create a lot of heat..
After between , ( 6 to 11 ) hours of run time you're going to produce FOAM ...
You need to keep this in mind when designing the whole system layout...
Good video, thanks...
Thom in Scotland.
Agreed. You need to clear away the bubbles so they don't form huge air gaps. The air gaps lower efficiency, and cause heating on the place due to the air being an insulator
Use a mag drive pump to push water through the fins should force the bubbles out quick enough.
@@ShivaTD420
Indeed in principle, then you are correct, yet ... 6 to. 11 hours you get foam, which does not go away, so.. thinking on, how can you escape this conundrum I as you...well I have an answer, but first I offer you a question, a system of HHo, constricted in size, then thinking again a pump as you suggest, with bubbles of foam running tho it will at 12% collapse the pump flow...
But I have resolved all of this..
Thom in Scotland.
@@fuelban ahh yes, I've seen this foam with copper electrolysis.
@@ShivaTD420 hi, this foam is a state of highly charged waters, and will happen with all types of electrodes, stainless steel 316 being most often used, but FOAM is part of every reactor type... After (6 to 11 ) hours running it occurs.
Thom in Scotland.
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Please ignore the uneducated people and keep doing what you're doing you're on the right path, great work!
Know-it-alls think they know everything. They feel superior, are dismissive of others' opinions, are unwilling to listen to others, and love to tell others how to do their job. Know-it-alls like to hear themselves talk. This behavior may become so ingrained that it becomes part of the know-it-all's personality.
: "I would say that by listening to that motor there that the amateor sprocket is causing interference which in turn causes the combustion line to interfere with the flow in the dynaflow."
@Mr. Robert yeah ignore those fancy pants know it all scientists that think this just an inefficient way to waste a lot of electrical energy to make a little chemical energy. Big oil and big EV just want to hid the fact that with enough fiddling, you can power your car with some water and a few rc batteries.
Were there any comments like that? It looks like all cheers to me.
We need to respect Faraday’s laws
As a mathematical simplification of, a 7 plate generator will produce 64 ml/minute of HHO per 1 amp of current. Therefore a 120 watts generator will have a maximum output of 64 ml x 120 amp = 768 ml HHO
You need about 12 cm2 of surface area for each watt usage or else your stainless steel plates or titanium will stress and erode
Thus for a 120 watt transformer you need a surface area of 12cm2 x 120 = 1440 cm2
1440 cm2 divided by 12 is 120 cm2 Therefore the size of the plates need to be 12 x 10 cm big
4000 watt system needs 120\4000 x 1440 cm2 surface area = 48,000 square cm surface area or 4.8 square meters of stainless steel b!!!!!!
Source?
The two central clamping bolts should be plastic bolts or have a plastic tube over the threads to eliminate the direct short at this point making the device not operate where it is shorted between plates.
1:54 ...you can see he makes the holes bigger on one set of plates so they never touch the bolt. It's all cool. =)
i agree the main bolts cant be conductive it ruines the ability to even somewhat control n the output you have to fully seperate each plate 1 wire per plate if you need to do that but the person making this obviously has a creative mindset so im sure youll make a much better design if you really put your mind to it also liek you said the more power it takes to make more hho when the water is warmer so there is a preportinal gain in container size to the size of the electrolysis plates system you use so make the water conatiner bigger to keep the water cooler but once you figure out the design of the plates for the electrolysis hho generator youll figure out the rest fairly easier if you pay attention to all the stuff to optomize it! still cool video was hoping to see you make a decently working design tho
@@krackd-tv1364 he is producing steam lol
you noticed to huh, dunno why these idiots try to baffle us with our own technology, they think they look smart, but they truly dont understand they're making themselves look kinda silly
@@mickenoss THAT IS NOT ENOUGH SAFE! Plates not fixed on all x-y-z axis, FIXED ONLY ON Z AXIS!
Está bien lo que hizo, mis observaciones son, 1.- Demasiado voltaje de batería, debe trabajar en 12 volt, que es lo que usa el vehículo, ésa batería debe estar recargándose con el alternador del vehículo, el cual se dañará por el consumo de la celda. 2.- todo el consumo de la celda lo tendrá que reponer el alternador del vehículo por lo tanto no se recomienda mas de 15 amperes 3.- la separación de laminas está bien, sólo que debe asegurar que la placa no se desplace y toque el perno poniendo un separador mas 3.- se requiere de un controlador de pulsos para limitar el consumo de energía y precisamente de ( éso depende el éxito del sistema ) conseguir que el controlador regule el amperaje de consumo que uno le programe, ya sea 15 amp. o unos 20 amp. si se quiere usar mas amperaje lo cual no recomiendo, se deberá cambiar el alternador por uno de mas capacidad de carga, me refiero a amperaje. Y por último, con la cantidad de hidrógeno que se ve produciendo en el video, por lo menos está consumiendo mas de 30 ampéres, con lo cual al cabo de 10 minuto o menos el agua estará hirviendo y perderá toda su eficiencia ya que a medida que el agua se calienta la calidad del hidrógeno disminuye, la ciencia está en un buen controlador CCPWM y refrigerar el agua, que siempre esté a la menor temperatura posible, saludos desde Chile y se les puedo ayudar con sus dudas encantado.
El acero inoxidable es el ultimo en la escala De conductividad. Y a medida que reacciona el agua en la electrolisis, se genera calor. Creando mayor resistencia al flujo de corriente aplicada. Incrementandose De manera exponencial el consumo De energía. Igualmente la temperatura del electrolito. Placas gruesas demandan mayor consumo. Ideal placas De cobre en El (-) y de plata en el (+). La plata el primer elemento en la tabla de conductividad, y el cobre De Segundo. De resto serian ,puros calentadores de agua y generadores de oxalato de Cromo, un desecho canserigeno, que es Ese barro marron que generan las placas, de acero. Cuando se realiza la electrolosis, u oxido reduccion. En periodo de prueba un inversor de polaridad constante para restringir la migracion De cationes. Para minorar el deterioro de las placas y formacion de oxidos. Incluso utilizando agua destilada, al agregar El catalisador., se produce la oxido reduccion aplicando la corriente.
El CCPWM es solo un regulador de intensidad. Cualquier regulador de intensidad funciona bien o limitador De corriente. Mientras las celdas estén bien configuradas generan calor, pero en menor cantidad. Una Buena recirculacion de electroliro y gases disipan el calor en el tanque De reservorio. Recomendable, instalarlo fuera del compartimiento del motor, pues se genera demasiado calor impidiendo la refrigeración de la celda. Si se emplea demasiado catalizador, al pasar el tiempo en La electrolisis, el electrolito se polariza disminuyendo la cantidad de producción de gas. La tensión de carga del vehículo no puede caer por debajo de 13.5 voltios .,con la celda en funcionamiento. Por debajo de ese limite el alternador no es capas de cargar la batería. Tensión no es igual a intensidad. Encender la celda con el motor en marcha, prender las luces y equipamiento del Vehículo y medir el voltaje de La bacteria .si cae por debajo de 13.5 voltios, en ese momento ya se esta descargando la batería. Esa es la prueba definitiva de que el modelo De la celda de hho funcione correctamente. Yo estoy fabricándolas ,con elevadores de tensión , me elevan El voltaje solo para la celda. Y puedo manejar el voltaje y amperage sin darle tanta caída De tensión en el sistema de carga del Vehículo. .
The great thing about a 4000 Watt hydrogen generator is that after you pump that hydrogen up to 10,000 PSI, store it in a tank and then later send what hasn't leaked out to a fuel cell you get 1400 Watts of power back. What a great deal!
Don't worry about the trolls, people like you pushes boundaries of human knowledge. I hope you get good income from TH-cam to continue with your experiments. 😉👌
"pushes boundaries of human knowledge"? This is OLD sh!t dude! 😂
he's not pushing anything.. this is old tech... we used it for electroplating for decades. probably a century now.... and brown's gas (hydrogen as a fuel) is a 1960's PATENT
In conventional direct current electrolysis, various experimenters achieved a doubling of the gas volume at the same input power when a strong magnetic field acted parallel to the direction of flow of the ions of the electrolyte, i.e. in the same direction. The Lorentz force created a vortex (torsion) on the ions. The magnetic field was generated by neodymium permanent magnets. It was crucial that the correct electrical polarity was applied to the plates. If this is wrong compared to the north and south poles of the magnets, the gas evolution is lower.
All processes of gas evolution take place in the Helmholtz bilayer. The Debuye length is also decisive there; thus, among other things, also the plate spacing.
The amount of gas emitted can be increased if the electrodes of the electrolyzer are provided with carbon felt. The carbon pores thus increase the total area of the electrodes. A significant increase with high coefficients of performance (COP values) in gas yield is said to occur when the electrolyzer is charged when switching from direct current to nanopulses. This is what two Indian researchers claim. Figure 6 of their paper shows that nanopulse electrolysis is 31.56 times (3156%) more effective than conventional DC electrolysis at the same input power. The extremely steep nanopulses literally exert karate blows on the electrolyte molecules. Of course, this is only possible if space energy makes a significant contribution; because there is no such thing as perpetual motion.
gehtanders.de/Downloads/waw-nanopulsDC-HHO-IJEE_13_v3n1.pdf
Great, you've made something that can burn 4000 watts to produce a gas that you'll only get around half the energy back from when burned. Also stainless electrodes means you'll be turning some of the chrome in the anode into carcinogenic hexavalent chrome in your solution. Perfect.
You are way to kind with "around half", calculated he has about 16% conversion efficiency assuming this is pure gas without water vapors in it and this is on the heating value of the gas created.
Thank you for highlighting the energy this device waste to produce a small amount of hydrogen / oxygen mixture
Even though there's something wrong, i still think this is the best video on hho i've ever seen, i can see you're really intrested in it and you did some research. Love this type of video, and the comment section is just *chef kiss*
mine puts out that constantly.. why can his only take a quick shot? poor design.. (ps the center bolt grounds all the plates together so it would work in the first place, he'as drawing 4000 watts because its a short LOL mines tas 7 amps at 12 volts to make 3x more with half the plate size .. 80 warrs..
This is the worst design on youtube
I Congratulated you for the successful result of your 2HHO experience for improving the combustible problem in the future.
2HO
@@narcissebernard1201 Nope 2H2 + O2 since both are diatomic
Ótimo projeto, acrescente um regulador de volume de som por exemplo, e vai conseguir controlar a quantidade de energia que entra nas células.
Percebi um erro.
Os parafusos que seguram as placas junto com os separadores causa curto entre as placas.
Deveria ser de um material isolante.
@@asandromasta am vrut sa zic si eu, si de aceea se incinge apa si consumă bateria imediat, trebuie niște șuruburi de plastic, se gasesc in comerț!
@@asandrompendek tidak akan terjadi kerana plat dipisahkan dengan saiz lubang yang berbeza
Thank you for speaking English some of these DIY videos. There are different languages and I’m a dumb American. I didn’t learn any other language. I have a hard enough time learning English and I’m English speaking.
Pleure pas yanky t’es pas tout seul ! 😂la galère des langage 🇫🇷👀 .DIJONNAIS france 22h je quitte la toile bye-bye
Good job on the diy! Curious, why not run two separate chambers, one + and one -, that way one chamber produces pure H and the other O2?
i put my setup in a clear undersink water filter assembly (thick clear plastic)and held everything together with neoprene washers and nuts/bolts as to not touch the 2. have 1/4" bolts coming out the top of the filter system so i can hook up everything and it already has 3/4" adapters for hoses on top of the undersink water filter unit.
Our hydrogen plant uses deionized water (non conductive). Tap water is extremely conductive, hence your power wastage and high voltage. 😊
Did you know some Guide or archives about the HHO generators? I made one when i as little and want to build a Bigger one now using the Power from the outlet (DC 220v/10A)
use distilled water , i believe he knows that , tap water is dirty it will attract a lot of garbage to the plates , i tried sea water it's so powerful it made loads of hho but melted my electrodes
Gumamit ka nang hightemp na plastic bolt and nats. Para kahit konti plates ilagay mo mas marami harvest ng HHO. Shorted ka kasi kailangan mo pa punoin ng tubig lagayan mo bago mag create ng hho.
hnd nmn sya shorted.. mas malaki butas ng negative plate.. at nag tester ako jn.. wala contact yung different polarity
Pwede ba engineering plastic gamitin boss?
now that is one technically detailed work of an hho generator 👏👏
HHO here cost $500+ for most 4-cylinder cars or SUV.
Offices in northern California.
Can't afford yet.
diy is cheaper
@@albertnario4877
Sana nga Albert magawa ko rin yan someday very interesting kasi $7/gallon na ang unleaded fuel dito.
Meron akong 2013 Mazda CX-5
66-speed manual 35 mpg non-hybrid yon ang kakabitan ko ng HHO.
Albert meron na rin akong ilang unedited Shorts and video sa blogs ko. Mga patent-pending kong inventions has no budget to sell Online kaya hopefully it grows on TH-cam.
Kumusta na jan sa Mariveles?
If you configure your anode and cathode you can separate the two gasses completely.
look great dude. One side note, it is extremely dangerous wearing gloves around a drill press. If it ever catches it will chew you hand apart. Thanks for sharing.
thanks noted.
Nice job on creating a huge spark just as you produced a load of hydrogen
пластины центральными болтами замыкают между собой, смысл от боковых контактов, надо трубку изолятор одевать на болты
Тут уже индусские законы физики задействованы
Отверстие больше болта. Но трубку надеть действительно нужно.
Млодец, ты, заметил
VERY GOOD 👍 THANKYOU
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK
FROM AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺
bro, that output is pretty insane
excellent job describing your procedure results and effects of alterations thank you Albert
thanks
И потом большой "ПАРА-БУМ" и нашли деда километров за шесть ))Особенно при размыкании контактов ,искра и ****
Ну барабум вряд ли. Что б взорвался водород нужно точное соотношение в процентах. Он очищает его от кислорода через водяной замок(бутылку). Но тут другое. Даже не нужно подобное собирать, что б понять что это не работает! Можно просчитать. Есть все данные в таблицах. Сколько получается водорода электролизом и сколько он может отдать энергии потом сгорая. Так вот. меньше в половину при идеальных условиях. Это видео для идиотов ради заработка на рекламе от ютюба. Все.
@@xxxl495 я в этих делах не спец.
Ну так этот кулибин собирает свою приблуду, дома на коленке) в гараже.
А ели на это, замахнутся а промышлено,- заводском изотовлении. На ещё привлечь научно и следовательно технический институт
@@ВОИНДОБРА-у1о Зачем привлекать институт? Электролиз изучен и описан век назад. Это самый дорогой способ получения водорода. Очень дорогой. В школе на уроках такой был наглядный эксперимент. Я сам собирал такой на кухне, побаловаться. Энергии полученной таким путем гораздо меньше затраченной. Что тут смотреть? Кстати ещё так ЗЭКи на зоне из лезвий делают и чай кипятят. ещё со времен гулагла.
As an engineer, I'm not sure what people are thinking here??
Some people appear to be doing this, just as an experiment, to better understand science - which is great, everyone should get involved with science, especially practical science. Go for it. It is great to learn new things, especially to learn by doing. I applaud these people.
HOWEVER, there appears to be a second group of people (weirdos), who seem to think that you could somehow use this hydrogen gas, to add to a gasoline engine, to increase MPG?? THESE PEOPLE ARE UNDER SOME MAJOR DELUSIONS. Beware that these people are outright liars.
FIRST OFF, you can't just add other fuels, to a gasoline engine and expect it to run. Gasoline engines simply do not work that way. Just because you can add, say nitrous oxide, to a gasoline engine and it runs better - DOES NOT MEAN that you can just add ANYTHING to a gasoline engine and expect it to run, or run better! That is just crazy talk. The fact is - adding most other fuels, to a gasoline engine, will cause the engine to NOT RUN AT ALL!
SECONDLY, MORE IMPORTANTLY, REALIZE that it takes LOTS OF ENERGY to create hydrogen by electrolysis. In fact, LOTS MORE ENERGY, than you could possibly save, by using this hydrogen, to supplement a gasoline engine!! ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THIS WILL WORK - IS FULL OF BS AND ARE LIARS. Note that it is a well known fact, that electrolysis is known to be the LEAST efficient way of making Hydrogen gas. Also note that you can ignore the O2 contribution, as Oxygen is found in air - for free!
THIRD, what everyone seems to be ignoring, with these claims of crazy MPG numbers, is that even if it worked (and it will not) - you still have to add in the cost of the alternative fuel that you are substituting for gasoline!
For Example: If I substitute E85, for Gasoline, but don't add in the cost of the E85, then it is just a total exercise in BS.
Or said another way:
If you used a gas engine (A), to drive a generator (B), to make electricity (C), to make hydrogen (D), to burn in an internal combustion engine (E), in some kind of wacky experiment to create "more MPG"... The amount of gasoline that you would burn, to make said hydrogen, would be astronomically high. Even if you could burn hydrogen, as 100% efficient (which you cannot, especially in an engine designed for gasoline) - in reality, the amount of gasoline used TO MAKE SAID HYDROGEN - you would end up getting something closer to 1 MPG overall. Yes, 1 mpg or less. That is not a typo.
You cannot cheat the laws of thermodynamics! Every change in process (A-to-B-to-C-to-D-to-E), introduces a thermodynamic loss of roughly 35-65%, FOR EVERY STEP. So you are introducing losses of 250-300%, right off the bat, by trying to use this crazy scheme. Yet somehow people think that they can double their MPG, by losing 300% efficiency?? This is the equivalent of a perpetual motion machine, i.e. complete nonsense.
There is a reason why (we) engineers don't waste time with such nonsense, as it is a waste of time, for all practical purposes. I don't even need to waste my time doing a a simple back of the napkin calculation! I know this will not work, as I learned the BASICS of thermodynamics in college.
Now, if you want to play around with this stuff, to do science, for science's sake... Then I encourage all people to experiment. Hell, it is fun stuff.
But the LOSERS, who are telling you that you can double or triple your MPG... They are true idiots, who know nothing, or less than nothing and don't even understand the basics of science. At best, they know just enough, to TOTALLY MISUNDERSTAND the science. They certainly do not have the skills to calculate the actual MPG (which would be a huge loss in MPG). Of course, they would have to actually build something FIRST, which none of them have.
good job . good effort . room for improvement . careful . oxyhydrogen is more volatile than petrol .
my question is :
in another video .
1 ) show us you close the petrol supply and run entirely on oxyhydrogen
2 ) also before & after physical appearance of stainless steel plates & water .
The car will not run on Hydrogen, there is not enough of it, to run even a small car of a generator like this you would need one the size of a truck, this generator would not even run a lawn mower.
an American fellow did this back in the 70s on a 125cc bike (don't think it was Meyer). it ran well for about 20 mins then started to fail. I believe because petrol despite being fuel lubricates the pistons to some extent. without this the pistons just get eaten up from the friction. also requires radical timing change as HHO is implosive, not explosive. hence why most use only as additive :)
@@chronicsys Petrol in the 70s was also full lead, this increases full density and it is also an upper cylinder lubricant. That same motor would not like current unleaded fuel either. It is not hard to make a motor run on gas, I have had several cars that run on LPG but Hydrogen is 1000 times more difficult to use than LPG. As I stated before simply pumping some gas down the air intake of any motor does not help anything. Hydrogen or HHO is not implosive, where on earth did you get that rubbish from.
Your cell works great . Now try making an ozone generator and mixing the ozone with the hho .
great idea with the spacer material. You are using too many neutral plates tho. i get more bubbles with 4 plates for this kind of electrolizer, positive neutral neutral negative. it makes it a theoretical 6.6v but i find 12 works with a little heating which can be offset by extra electrolyte.
Dyslexia
When using metal bolts to hold your plate array together you are basically negating the neutral plates and creating a direct short through the array. Using nylon or plastic threaded rod will allow you to isolate the plates in your array.
Great video! It's nice to see people interested in hho.
No it is not. HHO is scam
@@afre3398 I'm sorry your having a bad day. Maybe tomorrow will be better.
I commented a wee while ago regarding Foam, A new or newly cleaned system with freshly changed water will get. ( 6 to 11 ) .. hours foam free, after which foam will be forever present in you're system, leaving "ANY" trace of old water will result in near immediate Foam return ..
I done experiment quite some years back, I pumped distilled water arround a water container for 12 then 24 hours, no electrical any where in nor near the water ... The pump was outside of the water vessel, now when I did put a cell in this water I got instant foam, very very fine ... Quite significant if you think about it.. I'm not sure if the foam is such a bad thing any way . IV went on to use it differently..
Thom in Scotland
I think you would be using way more power to produce the hydrogen than what the car "gains" with the generator
That is exactly what happens.
Для производства одного киловатта энергии, требуется затратить 2 кВт. Сергей Васильев.
If the electrolyzer cell is pushed beyond its capabilities and creates a fog gas that is the electrolyte will pass through the bubbler and into the engine and crate engine damage. In the bubbler, you should see no cloudiness fog at the top of the bubbler if the bubbler is properly designed to handle the flow of gas with the proper amount of water to extract any fog moisture leaving the electrolyzer. It should also go through a porous plastic secondary filter system to extract moisture to assure a dry gas. The bubbler by itself will not remove all moisture and electrolyte 100% unless it goes through a secondary porous plastic filter system to finalize the dry gas process.
Thanks for Upload this Video !
You can increase hho production enormously if you sonicate the water to be split with ultrasound. There are now reports that this method increases the hydrogen yield by a factor of 14. Or you can reduce the energy required in this way.
Nonsense! This is just wrong info - also in the mentioned video!
Have you tried that?
Australian researchers have tested this possibility with ultrasound and achieved an increase in yield gas. That was in several news channels, not only to read on TH-cam.
@@DJENERGY63 ultrasound frequency range is 2 to 18 megahertz. I used 8Mhz and I only get 2% extra, with same watt. Do you suggest a spesial hertz number
@@H2ON_MEA The question is, how do you bring in the ultrasonic frequency? As far as I know, the Australians installed a piezo speaker at the bottom of the electrolysis test rig, driving the sound directly into the electrolyte. The frequencies are me currently not known, but I would try 20-60 kHz. Power anywhere up to 10 W.
@@DJENERGY63 I see . Thanks for that information. I was pulsing the DC in 8KHz . So it is derance than you ment .
Can you please right the name of the video from the Australians piezo speaker to search for it 🌹
Maybe I already write here before, I can't remember. Your video is great. What is result, do you gain fuel savings and more power?From my experience, you do it wrong. Just do it on the first way, without neutrals, put there power supply for amp control, and drive around with different amp settings, from 1A to maximum what alternator can handle, to find sweet pot.
the efficency got reduced, at 13V it was 30percent and it got down to 17percent at 48V
Nu este nevoie să faci hidroliză pentru a mări puterea. Poți injecta apă direct în camera de ardere într o cameră de rezervă în chiuloasă. Această apă va expanda imediat după expolozie și va mări volumul gazelor, masa și va reduce consumul carburantului și a noxelor. Se poate și recupera o parte din apă prin distilare.
HiFi 1000W amplifier,
with sounds as mantra (low frequencies).
S.Meyer worked with 1.2V : have to cumulate frequencies in phasis.
I watched the same video, in fact this method not only produces hydrogen gas but also oxygen gas. I would like to see the apparatus that produces only hydrogen gas, which is a hydrogen gas that does not contain oxygen gas. The hydrogen gas produced in this way is certainly very dangerous. Flammable because, the hydrogen gas produced in this way already contains oxygen gas that helps burn easily. Good luck friend
I mean, they can add a reaction at the anode to make peroxide or use up the oxygen before it bubbles out.
Brak tulejek separujących płytki od śrub...
Верно, я тоже это заметил, должно было коротнуть, болты не изолированы от пластин просто тупа в ставлены текстоливые шайбы и плюсовые с минусовыми пластинами находятся в К. З
You should connect a water chiller to it some alittle bit distance from the tank. So the water can flow through it. An old radiator would work or. A array of copper tubes from a old air conditioner that's in a ice chest of something else to chill it. Have the water run through the cold. Pipes. And use as a cooler heat sink to not heat up water
or simply make one thats not shorted by the center bolt LOL
Geralmente para fazer a separação eu uso acrílico com etil polimerisante
Добрый день! Расскажите, пожалуйста, подробнее про ваш метод разделения с использованием акрила.
Shorted Ang circuit mo pre. Kaya nagiging heater Ang hho mo. Use nylon thread. If Hindi available. Meron sa ace hardware Yung pang toilet seat.
4000w ebile controller and supply hooked up to engine as well as ebike motor, power electric motor with 4kwh battery like 72 or 124v and also have 12v hookup for gas or diesel engine
I dislike my own comment cause may be dumb idea
Just so you know that when you implement hho into an modern car you must then reprogram the car's ECU to accept the new fuel you are adding for if you don't the car's ECU will reset everything to a 14.7 to 1 fuel ratio and the new fuel ratio needs to be set to something like 34.1 to 1 fuel ratio or a mixture of the two very different fuel ratios for the best fuel economy and performance. In this new method the car's Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system can function as a way to slow the burn rate of hydrogen back to that of the gasoline fuel it is replacing by adding in more stuff that doesn't support the burning process of the hydrogen fuel. It more or less acts as if you created a traffic jam inside of the car's combustion chamber which prevents the oxygen and hydrogen gas atoms from finding each other too quickly thus slowing down the burn rate of the hydrogen gas when ignited in the presence of oxygen. The exhaust gases are free and the car already comes with an EGR system that just needs to be remapped or boosted to act more quickly and/or be more responsive to the engines rpms and different loading conditions.
So, is a 1992 chevy 350 old enough not to need this reprogramming of the ecu?
@@cissyvaughn6097 Not sure but I'd be willing to bet it does as the ECU is programed for a fuel ratio of 14.7 : 1, and it's fuel curve mapping is also programed with that same ratio in mind. This is why when Bob Boyce put his high output electroliser to a Toyota priest it ran really good at first but over time the fuel economy was worse than it was without the hho being added to the mix as the ECU was now injecting way more fuel into the system to attain that 14.7:1 fuel ratio. Bob's unit put out something like 35 liters per minute if I remember correctly and could run the engine with no fossil fuels at all.
When they built the cars we must remember the fuel they use was gasoline or diesel as that is what they designed everything around, but there is a way to slow the burn rate of the hydrogen and that is with the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system. What this does in a nut shell is create a traffic jam inside of the combustion chamber making it harder for the hydrogen and oxygen gases to locate one another by putting stuff into the combustion chamber that doesn't support the combustion process as they physically get in the way of the two gases from coming together.
@@h2opower FYI these engines have carbs. There is no computer.
@@columbustalley330 That might even be harder as the way it was built is for a 14.7:1 fuel ratio not a 34.1:1 fuel ratio.
@@h2opower Not exactly. You can run a lawn mower on H2 adjusting the carb by hand. The number you want isn't the stoichiometric afr but the flammability range which is actually super wide. Unlike gasoline which is very picky about how it explodes H2 isn't picky at all. Most of the challenge recently in this space has been to get the power density up to match gasoline but running engines reliably on H2 is surprisingly easy.
Excellent. I am sure that serial production will start soon and it will be possible to buy such a generator cheaply enough.
My sincere congratulations and much success in production.
LP Somy
Center bolts should be plastic! Or in a insulated tube
yeah, he had bigger holes in the Neutral plates but I know what you mean, if any of those plates move and you "shorten the Voltage line you could get extreme amps instantly.
Yes , the bolts should be sleeved or made of a non+metallic material ( plastic )
The heat is because the positive and negative plates are separate but are not insulated from each other. The bolt is bare and causing a short circuit between the plates.
I seen the direct short as well.
that bolt mustbe non conductive , yes
Там нет короткого замыкания!!!!
True
Since it's water with plenty of electrolytes in it, instead of DI (deionized) water, the short is the water. If it were at a point in the metal, it would glow from the heat or at least boil there.
There are good examples of electrolysis rigs in more acidic or basic water. Just follow the methods (sometimes detailed in the supplement,) set the pH and let 'er rip.
many many thanks for your detail presentations+especially about the neutral plates !!! danke danke danke !!!
Кундустане закони физики не существует, уних всё работает 😊
Pessoal, ninguém fala isso exatamente mas eu vou dizer aqui. Esse projeto está errado! Os gases da placa positiva não podem misturar-se com os da negativa. Esse é um erro muito perigoso pois o gás hidrogênio é altamente inflamável. O polo negativo sai gás hidrogênio e no polo positivo sai oxigênio, essa mistura é altamente volátil. O correto é separar os gases
Generating hydrogen is a cool school science experiment designed to impress kids and is about as easy as learning how to fart. But being able to safely store and use hydrogen in practical everyday applications (without blowing yourself up) is definitely not as easy as farting.
Actually this technology was suppressed
"In 1968 over 40 years ago in the Philippines, Daniel Dingel invented the first known "Water Powered Car"
The water powered automobile invented by Mr. Dingel impressed past Filipino leaders such as Ferdinand Marcos and Corazon Aquino, whom expressed optimism for such an innovation, yet according to Daniel Dingel the Filipino government warned that such an invention as the water powered car would not be welcomed due to the agreements in place between the Filipino government, and the IMF (International Monetary Fund) along with the World Bank which prohibits any type of competition for such monopolies that each governing body controls such as fossil (oil) fuel."
You must connect it to the alternator because in case of an accident when the engine stops the hydrogen also stops.
Just a relay off a hot wire controlled by ignition switch
Генератор жёстко соединён с аккумулятором, так всех автомобилях. Сергей Васильев.
@@UserUser-uq5ux Проблема, Сергей, в том, что если произойдет столкновение и двигатель остановится, а генератор будет подключен к аккумулятору, он продолжит вырабатывать HHO и может произойти взрыв. Но если он подключен к генератору, такой опасности не будет. Sorry google translation.
Uh.. they're going to make a motor like that stirling engine youtuber who uses food packaging and not use turbines, eh?
Where did the electricity to charge the battery come from?
Hydrogen fuel cell?😁
I think we HHO experimenters are missing an important part of the equation.
This HHO generator is only part of a system. I think the HHO electrolysis doesn't just create bubbles.
this device affects all the tank water as soon as the power is turned on. the HHO generator needs to be long and thin so that the water moving through a rubber pipe is confined only around the stainless plates.
This tube is at an incline so the HHO is raising out of the tube. HHO works even better when put under a vacuum (more output). An engine produces a vacuum doesn't it. But with more vacuum than the engine can supply really can supercharge HHO production.
OK I believe all the water in the tank is bruised or the molecular bonding of the water inside the HHO tank is at a weakened state after the power is turned on and the bubbles are simply an indication of electrolysis.
Some of this water could be siphoned off and further processed by the technology used in common vape devices (small amount of electricity and big cloud of smoke) and sent directly into the intake. And the engine heat, vacuum then pressure will crack much of the water into HHO. Water injection has been used for years in internal combustion engines. but as far as I know they have never been married to an electrolysis tank. Put those 2 devices together small low amperage HHO tank and vape technology.
Very nice work Albert. I think you would find a small fuel saving there, well done. I'd love to build a full hho engine, one that can create enough for propulsion whilst still splitting enough H2O. I bet when you lit the hho your ears hurt!
i got ear plug 😁
No fuel saving. Accurate experiments done in other youtube videos.
I have found that by using hydrogen in the engine without using stainless steel valves and stuff you got a problem nothing but rust
Or Teflon, as I should’ve said
@@georgeniebergall7074 that is not true.
Nice project bro, very interesting, Ang galeng 👍
+1 sub for you..
Есть смысл делать только с разделением газа на водород и кислород, а вместе это очень даже хорошо взрывается.
Хрень какая то, вставил шланг в авто - толку ноль
@@Tom-bb2os Проще заехать на заправку чем заниматься этими сказками
@@Tom-bb2os Perhaps they'll put a fuel injector inside their fuel injectors and gain 30% power each time just trying to be an intense person. Looking forward to bubbling fairings from solar catalysts...
folks, this is a Brownian generator. learn more about Yule Brown's inventions and remember that this man led the way.
Is this producing a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gas? Also, do you think it would be difficult or effective to connect some sort of system to circulate the water to a bigger take that has ice in it to keep the temperature down? Would that help the first design work better without increasing demand on load?
That's a Wet Cell, electrolysis start at 1,5 Dcv,if you are putting 12Dcv you are getting, home water heater, after 1,5 volts the rest of the voltage is wasted and goes to heat up the water,
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@@vincecox8376 what are you talking about? If you’re questioning my intelligence, I’m no Einstein but I am also not an idiot. I work in the power generation/transmission industry and have for 15 years but my knowledge is limited on this kind of stuff which is why I’m asking questions to try and better educate myself. Are you a bot? Unhinged? Or just trying to swing your dick around at random people?
4000 WATTS X 12V = 333 Amps. This supply cable have been melting in fire.
You have a long way to go & a lot to learn...
: "I would say that by listening to that motor there that the amateor sprocket is causing interference which in turn causes the combustion line to interfere with the flow in the dynaflow."
nice demo, can be used for a 50cc bike?
it can but you need a separate power source for hho generator.
LOL you'll be better off feeding that electricity to an electric motor that powers the wheel of your 50cc bike, way more efficient.
good job man, you are very resourceful! i see your electricity is pretty well all provided by the battery pack
would love to hear how your project goes when you refine it ,i think really need to reduce that voltage though as 48 will be had to integrate into car in the long term
You do not want to put crap like this into your car ...You will use around 300 watt hours of energy to produce around 2 watt hours worth of hydrogen. Your fuel consumption will actually increase. ... this example would not even produce enough Hydrogen to run a lawn mower.
I actually agree with that. Its not really saving energy unless you're converting it with solar. Cuz it takes to much energy to make it. Unless you ues aluminum. Which is consumed as a chemical reaction.
The best way to convert it is very slowly.
Wich is fine if you can store it.
I like that it runs clean. And is very clean for a combination motors to run on. I'd love to run a nitrogen set up with my car to run as part of the fuel mixture.
@@CalebGibbsAvenue Why would you want nitrogen ? it is an inert gas and it will hamper combustion. How would you tell your ECU that you have nitrogen or Hydrogen going into your motor ? How would you calibrate your O2 sensors ?
Yes Hydrogen is very clean, the biggest problem with it is that you need a lot of it and a motor specifically designed for it. That car would also need a maintenance schedule that would rival that of a fighter jet. Hydrogen is very hard to store and needs a special tank, spaceX or NASA might be able to help you out there but it might cost a bit... good luck
I meant NOS. Obviously, it's not that one.
So far as regulating it I'd just use a propane regulator. But onistly I'd have no idea if it work. Just a thought. I'm merely describing the set up I have in mind.
Nice work & vlog 💐👍
Your creating a short with the metal bolts in the middle.
Exactly my observation. Poor kid saw a 6 minute video got the main points and went to work. Lol
You are creating highly explosive mixture of hydrogen and oxygen
Не серьёзный подход к ответственному делу.
Means what?
I wish good luck for you always for your work..I'm Khalil from Baghdad. Good bye
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Wow ur bolts are not short circuiting.
I m interested in such bolts only. Forget hydrogen.
What is the result of your work? How much less fuel does your car use now?
Hydrogen generators for your car are a scam that's been around for 50 years. You get worse gas mileage.
@@therabidsquirrelsage3388 but teoretically it should clean your engine from carbon
@@therabidsquirrelsage3388 so? it's been 50 years, technology and society is substantially different nowadays compared to back then, times change you petrol snorting idiot.
@@hurvinekspejbl6229 actually it's going to generate more carbon because you have to burn gasoline to create the electricity that creates the hydrogen that then burns without any carbon footprint. Thermodynamics wins again.
Non.