There’s a running joke that The Emperor is only still alive because the Orks believe he’s still alive, and is somewhere in the Deep Warp fistfighting Gork & Mork.
It's a long running theory, he CANT die because hes the biggest strongest Ummie, which means he cant just get beat by anyone but the biggest strongest ork, which would he Gork. Or possibly Mork. Its...only half a joke though, cuz its weirdly feasible 😂 also.... imatank imatank imatank... 😂
The Emperor trying to get the Chaos gods on his side: You want war? Fight the Tyranids. You want decay and finality? Leave their corpses to rot. You want excess? Genocide an entire race. You want change? There are Tyranids, let's fix that.
Though unironically Tyranids are probably the only species that could unite every faction to fight Chaos: Gg if they destroy everything who will worship us Humans, tau, Eldars: They'll eat us all Necrons: They'll eat the flesh that they probably want to keep Orcs: They want to fight Edit: Just got to the last part of the video and realized Wes and Nux said the exact same thing I was saying so gg
nurgle doesn't really want finality. it's a cycle. the cycle of life and death as your body fills with boils and sores full of life. when you die your flesh feeds the bugs, bacteria, and fungus, which brings more life which will in turn die and feed more new life.
Tzeench LOVES the Tyranids. Constant evolution? Eternal change. Khorne LOVES the Tyranids. Only destroy and consume? Combat FOREVER. Nurgle LOVES the Tyranids. Consume all that can be consumed, and all left is rot and oblivion. Genestealers infecting planetary populations. Slaanesh LOVES the Tyranids. A single-minded obsession of absorbing all life, and making more of itself. Consumption of all others as a final expression of single-minded excess.
im gonna be straight with ya nux, you haven't deeper dived yet, your at the event horizon, one more step and you will tumble down the mad rabbit hole known as 40K
Yeahhh Gotta at least get through The Primarch Backstories + a dedicated video on the Horus Heresey before you can really call it a deep dive. And that’s still just the tip.
He’ll consume all channels, Wes, then come for the more neigh like live form the black library and even Luetin09. Honestly I hope he gets invited on some of the podcasts.
The Orks are the best thing ever. There's a story where a group invades the realm of Khorne and he was so amused he resurrects them to do it over and over for eternity. And the Orks thought they were basically in heaven.
@powersurge413 Yep, because the fields went off once and after that big deamon he killed on the Gorejaw humans just didn't cut it anymore for Tuska. The Orks with Tuska flew all over the Warp with the gallar fields OFF and the demons ended up putting the ship on a black list saying "DO NOT FUCK WITH THIS SHIP" and the Orks had to go into the Eye of Terror just to fight more deamons.
52:24 Nux if you think that's crazy plot armor then try this on for size, the Orks think The Emperor is the biggest and baddest human to ever live and because of that they think he's unkillable and unstoppable in battle, sooooooo this gave birth to a memey but widely loved fan theory that a large chunk of what's actually keeping Big E alive is the Orks as a race believing that The Emperor can't die.
No the best ork story is the one of the ork who loved his weapon SOOOOOO much that he travelled through time to kill himself so he could have 2. HE KILLED HIS PAST SELF TO HAVE 2 OF HIS WEAPON
He did not intentionally do it, the warp does strange things, instead of going some where, the fleet turned up just as it was about to jump into the warp again 👍
@@emca1597 he has a Tyranid swarm of "quite humorous extent" in his gallery, whatever that means. Probably either an entire Hive Fleet, or like three of those fuckers
Two points about the Emperor not mentioned here but that speak to why he deserves to be so high up on the list: 1) The Emperor is the only being that ever scared the Chaos Gods so much that all 4 of Nurgle, Tzeentch, Khorne and Slaanesh temporarily stopped fighting each other + worked together as Chaos undivided to oppose him. 2) The Emperor by the end of the Horus Heresey in the 30k timeline was already strong enough to undergo full apotheosis + ascend to godhood in The Warp. He chose not to do so because he foresaw that his ascension to godhood would be for humankind the equivalent of what the Birth of Slaanesh was to the Eldar. i.e. it would have wiped out the human race and consumed the souls of the entire species in the birth-fire of his ascension. So he chose to reject his own apotheosis to save humankind. But if he wanted to, he could have become a true Chaos God and had his own realm of chaos within the warp.
W comment cuz this video was just a lore guy trying to scale them so he skims over some shit and he isn’t a power scaler so it’s flawed. He should watch Webcamparrot’s video on The Warp and the Emperor as he does him some Justice.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls thats so true bro. Though even if he was a powerscaler I think the list wouldn't change, its just that nux would better understand how broken the gods are in the 40k verse
Think it’s also worth noting that his sword that’s imbued with his psychic energy can permanently kill demons and that at the end of the plague wars he burned nurgles realm
It was actually Khorne that shattered Khaine as him and Slannesh were in a stalemate so Khorne got pissed and came to fighter Slannesh and Khaine got in the way so Khorne backhanded Khaine and he shattered then he punched Slannesh in the face causing her to leave the fight
The Shadow in the Warp isn't actually a null field. It's more like signal saturation. The Tyranids come in with so much constant psychic communication that it blankets the area and makes it nigh impossible for anyone else to touch the warp due to interference.
I just stumbled onto this channel, and as someone who has read countless novels, and played the game for almost 30 years, it truly puts a smile on my face to listen to you watch these videos. Your enjoyment of this outrageous, over the top, grim dark and grin dank universe really reminds me of what this hobby is about. Thank you.
The genius of the emperors writing is that you as the reader look at him in the same way mankind looks at him in the story. Its all about your faith or your lack of faith in him. Is he just a despot or is he a god? Do you have faith everything went according to his plan? Do you have faith that humanity even after the horus heresy is still on the emperors golden path? Do you have faith that he even has humanities best future in mind? Do you have faith that his goal is what you would wish on mankind? I personally do. FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
@@jaberjansabe1539 Devestation of Bhaal when Dante has time for introspection in the story... Or it could be the novel prior. Kinda gets mixed together in my head and I haven't read them in a couple years now.
@@zjjohnson3827 Nah, it's from the novels regarding Dante, Devestation of Bhaal I think. Could have been the prior book Dante. In the scene Dante is spending time in a special archive he has exclusive access to and he is reading from scrolls of what Sanguinius foresaw. Also the Blood Angels will dream of these visions and see what their blood father saw.
idk when WesHammer made his video, but in the recent Siege of Terra novels, the Emperor is pretty much confirmed to at minimum have the potential to be on the same level as the 4 chaos gods (the 4 together). When he was on the way to confront Horus, the whole ship and area around Terra basically becomes drenched in the chaos realm. The chaos gods send legions of demons against the Emperor to stop him. What he does? he literally sucks the power out of chaos and adds it to his own, so much so that he was becoming the Dark King; an infinitely dense blackhole of power and destruction that was becoming another chaos god. The Emperor realises that this was plan B of chaos since if he ascends to chaos godhood, "chaos" itself would win regardless. He willingly gives that up and confronts Horus knowing what that would lead to. 10000 years later, he's more or less a sort of god, fueled by belief and faith rather than chaos. In the last plague wars novels, Big E posses Guilleman and burns Nurgles home with a slash of his flaming sword, shit talks Nurgle and then just leaves back to real space like a chad.
Khaine is also believed to be the son of Khorne. (Some think its literal, some don't) Here are a few book quotes that back that up. From the novel Path of the Warrior: "The Prince of Pleasure and the Lord of Skulls fought over the possession of Khaine's spirit, for the Bloody-Handed God was a child of both, but belonged to neither." From the novel Howl of the Banshee, this one is a quote from a Howling Banshee being attacked by Khorne's Bloodletter daemons: "We are here! Come, test your blades against ours and know that Khaine yet despises his raging father" And later in that same book when Khorne is manifesting signs of his will to tempt them to him: "Heed not the urges of the father of our bastard master, it is not rage that we serve, but a purer war."
During the Devastation of Baal (the Blood Angel homeworld) there was a hold out where a Blood Angel captain had a moat of super acid that could dissolve Tyranids. The Tyranids stopped their assault and stared down the captain and his men. The captain ended up locking eyes with a Gaunt, one of the smallest of the Tyranids, and felt true fear, (he felt like prey) in his mind as the Hivemind itself chose to look at the captain through the eyes of the Gaunt. The Hivemind chose to look at a captain, not through the eyes of a commander (Hive Tyrant) or one of the bigger bugs. It chose one that was tiny by comparison and was like "What are you going to do?". Before the gaunt shrieked and all the Tyranids charged the moat and began dissolving to the point where it was overflowing. There was more Tyranid biomass that they started walking over the moat of acid.
'In the warp a giant stirred; an image flickered through a mind larger than a nebula. The sleep of Gork was troubled. In his dreams he wore a metal body and led his children to victory. The dream lasted a brief instant of long eternity, something about it caused Gork to smile but not to rouse. In the warp Mork too was disturbed. He dreamed of war spreading like a green stain across the galaxy. He saw billions of his children following giant warmachines built in his crude image on a great crusade. He found the dream good. And slowly his vast mind moved towards wakefulness. Gork and Mork stirred. Their dreams reached out and touched the dreams of their people. A billion Orks turned in their sleep; suddenly, inexplicably infected by scenes of slaughter and reaving, plunder and the taking of worlds. When they awoke they looked on their surroundings and found them dull. Gork struggled towards awareness. After centuries of dormancy it was a long process. He sensed other Powers in the warp trying to interfere. He blocked a subtle tendril from Slaanesh, ignored a baleful warning from the Emperor, discounted the triumphant cry of Khorne. He reached out with his millennia-old mind and gathered the strength of his people. Soon he would be awake and active. A body of steel had been prepared for him. A time of blood and iron was approaching. As Mork gathered strength many a Warboss found himself afflicted with thoughts of power. Ancient ambitions were re-kindled. Long vanished thoughts of conquest stirred in the recesses of slow minds. They planned raids on nearby Humans and toyed with thoughts of alliances with old rivals. Not even great soul-searching could explain why this was so. The Ancient Powers knew what was happening, though. The Waa-Ork was coming. Gork and Mork stirred and a wave of fear passed through the warp. Suicide and incidence of violent crime climbed steeply. On Icolbar an Astropath screamed and threw himself from the balcony of a starscraper apartment, yelling that his people were doomed. On the craft-world Hope of Other Days, an Eldar philosopher stopped listening to the atonal music of his water-chimes and began composing his death-haiku, feeling his life had been justified. On distant Earth, a living corpse in a golden throne opened eyes that held fear for the first time in centuries. Gork felt his attention being tugged towards one tiny world on the edge of Orkdom. A strange attraction drew him to it. He leaned down from warpspace and looked upon it. His breath brought storms in the Ash Desert. His gaze caused machines to break down. His lightest tread brought earthquakes. Seeing the disruption he was causing among his people he withdrew. He knew the time was not yet right for his return. He withdrew but he left a message. Mork moved on the face of the warp, brushing aside Daemons and ignoring ancient barriers set by long dead Gods. He moved from world to world and placed in the heart of every Ork the desire to be restless, to move, to follow the siren call of adventure when it came. He sensed other Powers subtly striving to oppose him and laughed as their attempts to restrain his crude, irresistible purpose. The Emperor knew that he must save his people. If Gork and Mork unleashed their hordes then any unprepared worlds would be swept aside by a green tide of death The Emperor bent his thoughts to the task. Across Human space, within the range of the Astronomicon, Imperial Tarot began to foretell disaster. Commanders consulting them found all the signs of impending catastrophe on a cosmic scale. In the Segmentum Obscura, Battlefleets were recalled and prepared for war. On the homeworlds of the Adeptus Astartes, Space Marines reached for their weapons, knowing their time of destiny was near. On the edges of the Eye Of Terror, the Orders of the Adeptus Titanicus roused their ancient war-machines. Having surveyed his Empire and seen it was ready the dying immortal within the Golden Throne prepared himself for the conflict to come. Gork and Mork knew that they were ready. Their people were agitated and prepared for battle The Emperor, their chosen enemy, had deployed his forces. The first skirmishes had been fought, now war was about to be joined. Beyond them they sensed the Chaos Powers watching, waiting to see what advantage the God-brothers' actions might bring them. In the darkest pits of creation twisted creatures prepared to follow the Orks' advance. Gork and Mork did not care. They knew they were strong enough to resist Chaos. The time was right. The time was now. It was time for Gork and Mork to have some fun. In the Warp Gork and Mork waited, well pleased. Across the face of a million worlds their children were on the move, a green tide that would topple empires and re-shape the Universe. The Waa-Ork was on the move.' I will post this on all of your videos until you watch Baldemort's: The Secret History of the Orks.
@@marmyeater The real stories are niche, but he did make A video about the Mysteries of 40k. Like the mystery of the "Red Door" The "Little girl of The Maze made by Zeetch. Dark Artifacts of the Dar sector And many more, WESHAMMER did make videos about it.
Caine, eldar god of warfare was broken into fragments and Isha, eldar goddess of love and fertility is a prisoner of nurgle, Cegorach is the only eldar god to live complete and free.
Dude Nux's ability to retain the lore with as little diving as he has done never ceases to amaze me. I've spent over 20 hours trying to explain the lore to friends, only for them to grasp half of what Nux has in half that time. Pretty impressive honestly.
a big thing to remember, horus wasn't more powerful than the emperor during the heresy. during their final dual, it started with the emperor was trying to save his son and hours was trying to kill his dad. hours wasn't able to kill the emperor, only mortally wound him, and since the fact that the emperor can't really die so a mortal wound isn't a big deal to him. on the other hand, the emperor erased horus from existence.
Exactly, if Big E had entered that fight with the intent to erase Horus from the beginning he would've instantly done it and Horus wouldn't have been able to put a finger on him.
Khorne has an entire world in the warp populated by a bunch of orks because he finds them so amusing and they just wont die, so he keeps throwing demons at them and the orks happily keep fighting because they is the biggest and da baddest and no stoopid demon is going ta git da best of dem.
The moment he was saved by his son Horus... In that same moment he turned to the super Ork he said, "Now you die." He then unleashed a massive front of his might that then killed every Ork tied to that Ork and erased there souls from existence. He so fundamentally destroyed them that his son Horus then doubted the Emperor wasn't as mortal as he liked everyone to believe.
@@fadelsukoco3092 He has that effect on daemons and people just walking about, in Belisarius Cawls novel, his presence is described as a sun that radiates and blisters the souls of others through proximity. But the Emperor has greater feats than that. Like a complete suspension of time for a chat in his more questionable state on the throne. Nurgles garden is portrayed to be infinite in extent and he burned it wounding said god causing it immesurable pain. The guy also revived his son at an atomic level. The emperors powers are just complete bonkers. If he ever walked off of his throne he would be equivalent to or likely greater than an intact C'Tan, as his powers are also connected to the warp a much higher dimensional plane.
11:50 - this was oddly inspiring ^^ even to me as a 35+ dude. No idea how old Nux is but I'd bet he's significantly younger. Unrelated.. well sorta.. I love how unfiltered and Chaotic Nux is. Seen him before but it's been a while. Subbed on YT and Follow on Kick :)
My favourite piece of Ork belief lore is their method of Warp travel. The humans need to use a piece of technology to travel the warp called a Gellar field. A Gellar field is essentially a bubble of real space energy (a pocket of reality if you will) to encase the ship. As warp entities cannot fully survive real space, to try and pierce the Gellar field will be excruciating if not deadly. A piece of technology so powerful that it was created during the mankind’s golden age of technology. The Orks use Spikes…….. literally just spikey metal on the outside of their mashed together tin cans they they’d like to call ships. Orks believe that daemons can’t get past the spikes, so most times they can’t. If an Ork ship gets invaded by warp entities, that is because the Mork lovin’ gitz simply didn’t put enough spikes on their ship.
The dude at 48:08 is wrong when he says Emps is fifth chaos god. He's a god of Order. Fifth chaos god is Malal/Malice, the embodiment of chaos' hatred of Chaos. Incidentally, each Chaos god is theorized to be merely a Greater Demon equivalent of The Primordial Annihilator: Ka'Yoss. Just a theory tho...
The dude is wrong basically the entire video . Thats why Weshammer is considered a joke amongst the actual legitimate fans of the series... He makes up 90% of the shit he says simply to suit his cringe lord wish as to how the lore goes. Its actually pathetic and sad but unfortunately he gets away with it because not everyone can keep up with the hundreds of books to get accurate stuff. But ya the dude is a literal cancerous joke to the fans
The scariest thing about the Tyranids is not that they probably wiped other galaxies and are now converging on our own but the fact that we don't know if they come here of their own volition or if they are fleeing from something even scarier...
1:01:26 what you didn’t factor in is that censorship is also deceit, which empowers tzeentch. He is the god of plots and schemes, lies and trickery. The inquisition inadvertently pray to this bastard by their very existence.
1:56:51 The Emperor didn’t think that far ahead. It’s actually a common misconception by a lot of people who think the emperor wanted to have Horus turn and be defeated by him because he has gazillion brain IQ and future vision. The best way to explain how his future sight works I saw in a reddit comment once: ‘It’s like seeing an island (a potential future) and you need to find a way to get to it. Though you can’t see the sharks underneath the water, you have to be weary of pirates, you don’t know if the weather conditions will be favorable when you try and reach it, etc.’
So, a list of characters I would love to see you look into Nux. Trazyn. I know he's on your radar but damn hes great. Nemesor Zahndrekh. (Nekron) Ciaphus Cain. (Imperial Guard) Goge Vandire. (Imperium) Sly Marbo (non canon, Imperial Guard). Old One Eye. (Tyranid) Commisar Yarrick. (Imperial Guard) Commander Farsight. (Tau) Mephiston (Blood Angels) Commisar Fuklaw (non canon, Angry Marines (also non canon))
I only found your channel recently via the Mama Max drama. But as I went through your catalogue, I have to say: "I love this stuff". As a lifelong lore dork for Star Wars, Warhammer, and assorted other stories, I endorse this. Love watching your react videos. F all the haters!
Dude Nux you the man!!! I just got into 40K a little over a month ago. Heard some 40K lore getting spit on a non-related podcast and decided to dive in myself and well……I dabbled with introductory set before going all in on a Leviathan set, so I already have formidable ultra marines and tyranid armies. I’m grabbing a Knight Abominant and starting up a Chaos Knights faction next while slowly collecting chaos sets for a chaos space marines army, then…..hmmm maybe necrons…..idk man I don’t see an end in sight I’m addicted to the smell of citadel plastic glue, 40K is so freakin awesome
Thats probably because its ACTUALLY a real life quote commonly used among those of us that have left our basement before and ventured into the real world. But people here apparently think Weshammer is enjoyable and not a cringe factory estrogen cannon who should be publicly neutered to ensure its grotesque self never procreates. This would also stop a future r@pe from occurring, due to the simple fact that if he were to ever procreate, it would not be possible for the woman to consent to the act with him, because one cannot simply "be fine" with that travesty of a supposed man entering them. No amount of drugs and alcohol could ever make such a disgusting thought acceptable.
My favorite entity is actually from Warhammer Fantasy which is a whole set of rabbit holes on its own but still sorta similar to 40k. Its the Great Horned Rat sometimes referred to as the 5th chaos god. It is the god of all rats and the creatures known as the Skaven which are basically rat people (jokingly referred to as twitter users). The great horned rat is basically this very competent and scheming being but the race that follows it does so much infighting and has so much chaotic things and strife going on that they ultimately end up being unable to enact the great plan their god has for them. I see this god as sort of an angry and disappointed parent driven to alcoholism by their kids
The Skaven are great, but one of my favorite fantasy characters (after Gotrek and Felix, of course) is Luther Harkon, the schizophrenic vampire pirate fighting Aztec lizardmen
@@macewindu3492 certainly a great choice. My absolute favorite character would actually be Setra because of his immeasurable ego that he somehow manages to live up to
@@DorianTheReaper Settra is great. He's like the Warhammer version of Dr. Doom, just Egyptian. And like Doom, he drops some of the hardest lines in all of Warhammer. "Settra does not serve! Settra RULES!"
@@macewindu3492 thats exactly the moment that made me love him. In the totalwar games i love playing as the tomb kings as well. They and the skaven are my favorite factions to play.
It's important to note that the Emperor's Great Plan involved removing humanity's reliance on the Warp and he tried to starve the Chaos Gods to death by eliminating worship and belief in the existence of Gods. In older lore though, it was hinted at that the Emperor had planned to ascend to Godhood via his death at the hands of Horus. The plan only partially succeeded though due to part of him being kept alive by the Golden Throne leaving only a half formed Warp Entity called the Star Child.
emperor step by step plan: 1: build up power to the level of the 4 chaos gods 2: one of chaos gods builds up power to be a problem to the other 3 3: the 3 chaos god deal with the problem chaos god 4: then the emperor comes in and kills the chaos god that was the problem when it is weak 5: one less chaos god emperor wins
Nux if your interested in Tyranids, Lsyander & Koda do a great break down of how their invasion works and why their more intelligent then you think. Unfortunately they don't really get a lot in the way of important characters
1:32:10 that is why, Nux, the Emperor is hellbent on finishing his webway project so no Chaos Gods will be empowered by humans no humans will ever again fall to Chaos Gods. That is why the Gods call him the Anathema.
Nux there is a newer faction that came out after bricky made his video. They are called the Leagues of Votan and they are badass capitalist space dwarf clones. Please check them out.
Weshammer is where you start if you want a bunch of made up bullshit simply because some marshmallow of a beta pansy ass soy Factory desperately wishes said lore was the way he wants it to be rarher than how it actually is
Hey Nux, after your next vid on all the Space Marine Legions by Bricky, you should look into the videos by the Templin Institute they are amazing for doing lore on individual things in Warhammer. My favorite videos are the ones on the Emperor, the Tyrannids, the Solblades, Cadia, the Blood Angels, and Chapter Master Dante, but all of them are amazing, and you will not regret continuing the deep dive my friend, for you have only just scratched the veil. Many mysteries hide within the warp, and all must be found by Lord Nuxalore!!!
There's an interesting suggestion that Tzinch often ruins his own plans and plots because he doesn't want the ultimate victory. After all, there will be no change after this victory.
@@titaniumwolf1123 English is not my first language. I write poorly in it, I used an internet translator. If you have any complaints about the meaning of what I wrote, I will be happy to read. Claims about letters are not interesting.
1:50:56 my questions on the tyrinids are: why are they expanding their reach? Why do they need that much power? What are they so afraid of that they feel like they need that much power?
My favorite theory on Warhammer is that the Emperor is trting to become the chaos/warp god of order. He persecuted religions not to get rid of religion but to make it so only those who REALLY believed in him would be left. We know that belief in the warhammer universe manifests into reality. So if an entire civilisation believes he was a god, he will become one. Its almost happened, since the living saints are functionally the same thing as chaos demons, simply loyal to the emperor rather than the 4 chaos gods. There are even some people in the Warhammer universe who believe that. I think one of the demon primarchs talked to some imperial citizens trying to convince them to worship the chaos gods instead of the emperor. He eventually brought up that the emperor didnt want to be seen as a god. To which the citizen responded by saying that THAT was a test to see if their faith was absolute, to see if even when their god says "im not a god", they still say "he is a god".
It’s the equivalent of us looking at an ant threatening to bite us if we try to crush it. It will hurt us, but the bite will leave no noticeable damage in the long run.
Nux it is a joy to watch you take on the learning of this setting! You are but at the shallow lore depths, like the DEEP warp the sea goes incomprehensibly deeper and more shadowed as facts give way to madness. All said: Remembrancer, Lueten, and Baldemort await you at the end of an impossibly long hall wreathed in gothic architecture skulls and gold to tell you the longform tales.
Nurgel teaches that everything dies but gives his followers an option staying alive experiencing the circle without dying and the best part for papa nurgel as far as i understand he takes away all the pain you have you may be disgusting but you wont suffer
If you are up for it Nux, Luetin made a gigantic multi part almost 10 hour dossier on the Big E. It can get a little rambly though and go on tangents, but Luetin is considered one of if not the best lore master in 40k.
Im so glad you got into lovecraft lore as your doing 40k cause lovecraft is a HUGE influence in so many parts of 40k. I think the omnipresent despair everyone tends to lend to the terianids is 100% lovecraftian.
I Love Weshammer. Dude has a good cadence to his voice and covers a lot of topics in warhammer. Excellent videos to fall asleep to or run in the background while youre gaming.
No actual fan of 40k has ever said they love Weshammer. What in the actual cringe soy, 90% of the lore he says is actually made up BS, voice of a little girl who smokes a pack a day, kind of jacked up beta soup do you have to ram up your ass to actually enjoy watching that actual sub human cringe factory ... Leave our fandom immediately. Thanks
19:44 The C'tan that was defeated by the Emperor was heavily wounded, and maybe partially shattered. He was hit by all Black Stone Fortresses at once. Weapons that increase their powert with procimity of each other, and are said to be able to easily destroy entire systems when together
@Fatalbeast22 Oh, absolutely. But it's well known he was much weaker back then. So, although he is immensely powerful in M42-M43 and has been for a while, it's highly unlikely he would be able to defeat a full C'tan at the peak of their powers, in a 1v1, with just his powers, no tech, faith of followers, likely no artifacts or genetic augmentations while in M1, and way before his pact with the Chaos gods
Jupp it HAD to be a shard of the void dragon since in tabletop the Necons do have the shard of the void dragon as a model, which would be impossible if the Emperor had locked away the entire C'tan.
@@lordofnight9377 there's also Age of Sigmar, which is a pseudo-sequel to Fantasy after GW did the End Times. There's also The Old World, which takes place in the Fantasy setting, but much earlier than all the books and games. And there's also Blood Bowl, but that probably doesn't count as it's own setting
@@lordofnight9377 I'm less familiar with the fantasy settings than I am with 40K, but from what I can tell is that AOS is a lot more unique when it comes to faction than Fantasy is, like their capitalist skyship dwarfs or skeleton tax collectors, but I miss some of the more unhinged stuff Fantasy had, like schizophrenic vampire Jack Sparrow pillaging the Atztec lizard people
@@macewindu3492 it all seems pretty retarded to me but I like the idea of the wood elves fusing with the forest spirits. Not sure what happens to malekith but it should be cool
My favorite fact about Slaanesh is that even though they're considered the "weakest" Chaos god, none of the other Chaos gods can kill her, because in order to do so, each of the other gods would need to "indulge" in their own wheelhouse too much, and would inadvertently strengthen The Dark Prince.
A few info: -Perpetuals are new disney style lore. - In the old lore the Emperor beat Horus while Horus had the full power of the Chaos gods. The gods had to flee or be killed alongside Horus. -In old lore, Chaos gods never lost power, only gained more. -The universe would end if the Emperor dies, submerged into the Warp. This was true up until very recently. -The Primarchs used to be his clone sons, so his image is not an illusion. That was new writers trying to do a Ryan Johnson. -The Chaos gods have rivalries. Khorne vs Slaanesh, Tzeentch vs Nurgle. But they used to in older lore team up against the Emperor. It is 1vs4 not 5vs5. -Even older lore said that the Emperor would want to rule over and unite the Chaos gods into a "full psyche" but that was really old lore from the Eye of Terror Novel. A personal aside: The universe contains trillions of galaxies. Chaos is bigger than the universe. The Emperor leeps the universe from Chaos. Tyranids ate, around 12 galaxies. They are strong, but not Chaos. Chaos is bigger than the universe. And they did kill off the first property that 40k was the "in space" version of, Warhammer Fantasy. It is like middle ages Europe, but with dwarves ,elves, magic. The germans there (the humans are germans, french and chaos humans are vikings) even theorised that Khaine was just Khorne in an elf costume, and one had visions of 40k. And saif chaos vikings could get weapons from 40k ferried over to their universe, such as the magical Chain Sword, a sword which made a strange roar and had teeth move on its blade. A few more facts: -Orks used to be in millions of galaxies, outnumbering Tyranids. -Necrons used to be even stronger, so strong that they were invincible. They got nerfed. -This Wes is a new guy amd haven't bern around for that long in Warhammer, it is very old. -Chaos gods used to not loose power, that is another new thing. They would retain every drop of power gained forever, unable to get weaker, only ever stronger.
Nux if you're curious about reading novels. I would highly recommend a short story called ''the last church'' it doesn't have any real crazy action or anything like that. Instead it just focuses on a Philosophical conversation between the emperor in disguise and a priest inside the last standing church after the emperor issued his order of banning all religion. and its the last day before they burn down this final church. It gives a ton of insight into the mindset that the emperor operates with. Pretty much all necron books are fantastic too
A fun thing i find is that each of the chaos gods, had an alternate and mirrored space marine legion they could have gotten. Tzeentch and the dark angels being paranoid af like dark knights prepping for everything, khorne and the blood raging vampires in power armor, slaanesh and the or the drunk space vikings, though papa nurgal got his mens
Nux should find out about malice/mallal, the 5thish chaos god, the wierdo that is technically chaos itself but doesnt really do much because hes so chaotic
Tzeentch canonically had his maze of the "Nine Gates to ultimate knowledge" solved by a random little girl and her dog. Who was she? Well, we have no idea. Also, there's a group of orcs fighting endlessly at Khorne's throne!
If you're actually planning on reading 40k novels. I strongly recommend checking out 'The Infinite and the Divine' by Robert Rath. It's a marvelous story while not being prohibitively lengthy, and given how much you seem to like the Necrons as a faction I reckon you'd take to it well.
You should do a video about the deep reaches of the warp, places where even the chaos gods are afraid to traverse and is said that even older, more primal, and stronger entities slumber (this is, as far as I am aware, a bit of speculation by the community).
1:19:37 Oh boy oh boy, I really hope that Nux uses the ... What is it now, 3 part? 4 part? ... Luetin09 deep dive on the Emperor! If Nux wants some TRUE lore DEEP diving, he NEEDS to see Luetin's "Chaos and the warp" and "Nature of Time" videos. THAT is *really* getting into the weeds of Warhammer 40K lore, yessir, yessir!!
Finally got around to watching this. A note for your brain worm Nux, the four chaos gods have teamed up against the God-Emperor of Mankind multiple times by the time Horus attempts to kill the Emperor
The Tyranids have only 2 major weaknesses. They do not have warp travel & move relatively slow compared to all other factions, albeit still inevitable. And they are slaves to biomass economy. Cost them emence biomass loss & they will back off, however that threshold is often astronomically high, AND they will come back even stronger better prepared.
There’s a running joke that The Emperor is only still alive because the Orks believe he’s still alive, and is somewhere in the Deep Warp fistfighting Gork & Mork.
That’s legendary
It's a long running theory, he CANT die because hes the biggest strongest Ummie, which means he cant just get beat by anyone but the biggest strongest ork, which would he Gork. Or possibly Mork.
Its...only half a joke though, cuz its weirdly feasible 😂 also.... imatank imatank imatank... 😂
Orks saw statues of the Emperor and think he cant die bc is a great warrior
Nux would love that
too far
The Emperor trying to get the Chaos gods on his side:
You want war? Fight the Tyranids.
You want decay and finality? Leave their corpses to rot.
You want excess? Genocide an entire race.
You want change? There are Tyranids, let's fix that.
That’s pretty good lol
Though unironically Tyranids are probably the only species that could unite every faction to fight
Chaos: Gg if they destroy everything who will worship us
Humans, tau, Eldars: They'll eat us all
Necrons: They'll eat the flesh that they probably want to keep
Orcs: They want to fight
Edit: Just got to the last part of the video and realized Wes and Nux said the exact same thing I was saying so gg
nurgle doesn't really want finality. it's a cycle. the cycle of life and death as your body fills with boils and sores full of life. when you die your flesh feeds the bugs, bacteria, and fungus, which brings more life which will in turn die and feed more new life.
@@wufflemuffin9197 Exactly, they're the perfect common enemy.
Tzeench LOVES the Tyranids. Constant evolution? Eternal change.
Khorne LOVES the Tyranids. Only destroy and consume? Combat FOREVER.
Nurgle LOVES the Tyranids. Consume all that can be consumed, and all left is rot and oblivion. Genestealers infecting planetary populations.
Slaanesh LOVES the Tyranids. A single-minded obsession of absorbing all life, and making more of itself. Consumption of all others as a final expression of single-minded excess.
im gonna be straight with ya nux, you haven't deeper dived yet, your at the event horizon, one more step and you will tumble down the mad rabbit hole known as 40K
Until he hits some extreme bs from gw
Yeahhh
Gotta at least get through The Primarch Backstories + a dedicated video on the Horus Heresey before you can really call it a deep dive.
And that’s still just the tip.
And then comes the plastic crack addiction lol
Absolutely true, Bricky and TTS are just surface scratches. You want to go DEEP, you pick a faction, and Read until you bleed from your ****
He’ll consume all channels, Wes, then come for the more neigh like live form the black library and even Luetin09. Honestly I hope he gets invited on some of the podcasts.
The Orks are the best thing ever. There's a story where a group invades the realm of Khorne and he was so amused he resurrects them to do it over and over for eternity. And the Orks thought they were basically in heaven.
Tuska, my beloved.
The orks are also hella evil. Like reading Rynns world they feed caged humans ork sewer water and roast them over an open fire and eat them.
@powersurge413 Yep, because the fields went off once and after that big deamon he killed on the Gorejaw humans just didn't cut it anymore for Tuska.
The Orks with Tuska flew all over the Warp with the gallar fields OFF and the demons ended up putting the ship on a black list saying "DO NOT FUCK WITH THIS SHIP" and the Orks had to go into the Eye of Terror just to fight more deamons.
@@PhthaloGreenskin are Orks capable of not being orkish?
I found someone on youtube reading that story and i probably have heard it a good 20 times since ive found it.
52:24 Nux if you think that's crazy plot armor then try this on for size, the Orks think The Emperor is the biggest and baddest human to ever live and because of that they think he's unkillable and unstoppable in battle, sooooooo this gave birth to a memey but widely loved fan theory that a large chunk of what's actually keeping Big E alive is the Orks as a race believing that The Emperor can't die.
Nuxtaku: “IM NOT THE CLOWN GOD!”
Me internally: “ You’re right, you’re the whole circus.”
No the best ork story is the one of the ork who loved his weapon SOOOOOO much that he travelled through time to kill himself so he could have 2. HE KILLED HIS PAST SELF TO HAVE 2 OF HIS WEAPON
And then he didn’t die because he doesn’t understand how paradox’s work
@@TheHornedKing_27Actually, yes.
He didn't do it on purpose which is funnier
He did not intentionally do it, the warp does strange things, instead of going some where, the fleet turned up just as it was about to jump into the warp again 👍
Honestly my favorite is Trazyn the Infinite my dude went up to his rival with 5 different faction armies in his pokeballs.
Necron version of Ash Ketchum, and his overpowered pokemons.
Trazyn is great, he even uses a C'tan shard to power his museum
Trazyn is what the British museum would be if it had a personality.
@@macewindu3492 forgot about that lol, pretty sure he can solo the tyranids if he puts his mind to it.
@@emca1597 he has a Tyranid swarm of "quite humorous extent" in his gallery, whatever that means. Probably either an entire Hive Fleet, or like three of those fuckers
Two points about the Emperor not mentioned here but that speak to why he deserves to be so high up on the list:
1) The Emperor is the only being that ever scared the Chaos Gods so much that all 4 of Nurgle, Tzeentch, Khorne and Slaanesh temporarily stopped fighting each other + worked together as Chaos undivided to oppose him.
2) The Emperor by the end of the Horus Heresey in the 30k timeline was already strong enough to undergo full apotheosis + ascend to godhood in The Warp.
He chose not to do so because he foresaw that his ascension to godhood would be for humankind the equivalent of what the Birth of Slaanesh was to the Eldar.
i.e. it would have wiped out the human race and consumed the souls of the entire species in the birth-fire of his ascension.
So he chose to reject his own apotheosis to save humankind.
But if he wanted to, he could have become a true Chaos God and had his own realm of chaos within the warp.
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W comment cuz this video was just a lore guy trying to scale them so he skims over some shit and he isn’t a power scaler so it’s flawed.
He should watch Webcamparrot’s video on The Warp and the Emperor as he does him some Justice.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls thats so true bro. Though even if he was a powerscaler I think the list wouldn't change, its just that nux would better understand how broken the gods are in the 40k verse
He would have been a god of Order. Absolute Tyranny.
Think it’s also worth noting that his sword that’s imbued with his psychic energy can permanently kill demons and that at the end of the plague wars he burned nurgles realm
It was actually Khorne that shattered Khaine as him and Slannesh were in a stalemate so Khorne got pissed and came to fighter Slannesh and Khaine got in the way so Khorne backhanded Khaine and he shattered then he punched Slannesh in the face causing her to leave the fight
Try the *Infinite and the Divine* if you want some good’old Necron shenanigans and Toomfoolery
Me when a planet full of people is killed because I pulled a prank
@@requiemlul3140 was a cool prank though.
@@nathanaelgall4280to be fair, it had very good reviews
@@nathanaelgall4280 Agreed
Tombfoolery
The Shadow in the Warp isn't actually a null field. It's more like signal saturation. The Tyranids come in with so much constant psychic communication that it blankets the area and makes it nigh impossible for anyone else to touch the warp due to interference.
So basically it’s like the Tyranids are taking up all the bandwidth.
The hive mind is shaping the warp rhe way it sees fits with no regards for any mortal or warp entity
I just stumbled onto this channel, and as someone who has read countless novels, and played the game for almost 30 years, it truly puts a smile on my face to listen to you watch these videos.
Your enjoyment of this outrageous, over the top, grim dark and grin dank universe really reminds me of what this hobby is about.
Thank you.
Lord Nux aught to take a peek at Caiphas Cain, if only to see the perspective of the average imperial soldier/citizen.
CAI-CAI-CAIPHAS CAIN!!!! HERO OF IMPERIUM!!!!
He also appears in TTS, so Nux is bound to learn about him... eventually, maybe.
How dare you call Ciaphas Cain THE HERO OF THE EMPERIUM and average imperial soldier/citizen??
I wish more lore tubers would cover Cain and jurgen
The genius of the emperors writing is that you as the reader look at him in the same way mankind looks at him in the story. Its all about your faith or your lack of faith in him.
Is he just a despot or is he a god? Do you have faith everything went according to his plan? Do you have faith that humanity even after the horus heresy is still on the emperors golden path? Do you have faith that he even has humanities best future in mind? Do you have faith that his goal is what you would wish on mankind?
I personally do. FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
Sanguinius wrote a journal of what he would foresee in the future.
He wrote of the Tyranid invasion of Bhaal.
source?
@@jaberjansabe1539a 4chan fanfiction probably
@@jaberjansabe1539 Devestation of Bhaal when Dante has time for introspection in the story... Or it could be the novel prior. Kinda gets mixed together in my head and I haven't read them in a couple years now.
@@zjjohnson3827 Nah, it's from the novels regarding Dante, Devestation of Bhaal I think.
Could have been the prior book Dante. In the scene Dante is spending time in a special archive he has exclusive access to and he is reading from scrolls of what Sanguinius foresaw. Also the Blood Angels will dream of these visions and see what their blood father saw.
idk when WesHammer made his video, but in the recent Siege of Terra novels, the Emperor is pretty much confirmed to at minimum have the potential to be on the same level as the 4 chaos gods (the 4 together).
When he was on the way to confront Horus, the whole ship and area around Terra basically becomes drenched in the chaos realm. The chaos gods send legions of demons against the Emperor to stop him. What he does? he literally sucks the power out of chaos and adds it to his own, so much so that he was becoming the Dark King; an infinitely dense blackhole of power and destruction that was becoming another chaos god. The Emperor realises that this was plan B of chaos since if he ascends to chaos godhood, "chaos" itself would win regardless. He willingly gives that up and confronts Horus knowing what that would lead to. 10000 years later, he's more or less a sort of god, fueled by belief and faith rather than chaos.
In the last plague wars novels, Big E posses Guilleman and burns Nurgles home with a slash of his flaming sword, shit talks Nurgle and then just leaves back to real space like a chad.
What would he be the chaos god of?
@@vicenteabalosdominguez5257he is the incarna of enthropy. Not death, and rot like Nurgle, but literally the end of the universe.
Khaine is also believed to be the son of Khorne. (Some think its literal, some don't)
Here are a few book quotes that back that up.
From the novel Path of the Warrior: "The Prince of Pleasure and the Lord of Skulls fought over the possession of Khaine's spirit, for the Bloody-Handed God was a child of both, but belonged to neither."
From the novel Howl of the Banshee, this one is a quote from a Howling Banshee being attacked by Khorne's Bloodletter daemons: "We are here! Come, test your blades against ours and know that Khaine yet despises his raging father"
And later in that same book when Khorne is manifesting signs of his will to tempt them to him: "Heed not the urges of the father of our bastard master, it is not rage that we serve, but a purer war."
During the Devastation of Baal (the Blood Angel homeworld) there was a hold out where a Blood Angel captain had a moat of super acid that could dissolve Tyranids. The Tyranids stopped their assault and stared down the captain and his men. The captain ended up locking eyes with a Gaunt, one of the smallest of the Tyranids, and felt true fear, (he felt like prey) in his mind as the Hivemind itself chose to look at the captain through the eyes of the Gaunt.
The Hivemind chose to look at a captain, not through the eyes of a commander (Hive Tyrant) or one of the bigger bugs. It chose one that was tiny by comparison and was like "What are you going to do?". Before the gaunt shrieked and all the Tyranids charged the moat and began dissolving to the point where it was overflowing. There was more Tyranid biomass that they started walking over the moat of acid.
'In the warp a giant stirred; an image flickered through a mind larger than a nebula. The sleep of Gork was troubled. In his dreams he wore a metal body and led his children to victory. The dream lasted a brief instant of long eternity, something about it caused Gork to smile but not to rouse.
In the warp Mork too was disturbed. He dreamed of war spreading like a green stain across the galaxy. He saw billions of his children following giant warmachines built in his crude image on a great crusade. He found the dream good. And slowly his vast mind moved towards wakefulness.
Gork and Mork stirred. Their dreams reached out and touched the dreams of their people. A billion Orks turned in their sleep; suddenly, inexplicably infected by scenes of slaughter and reaving, plunder and the taking of worlds. When they awoke they looked on their surroundings and found them dull.
Gork struggled towards awareness. After centuries of dormancy it was a long process. He sensed other Powers in the warp trying to interfere. He blocked a subtle tendril from Slaanesh, ignored a baleful warning from the Emperor, discounted the triumphant cry of Khorne. He reached out with his millennia-old mind and gathered the strength of his people. Soon he would be awake and active. A body of steel had been prepared for him. A time of blood and iron was approaching.
As Mork gathered strength many a Warboss found himself afflicted with thoughts of power. Ancient ambitions were re-kindled. Long vanished thoughts of conquest stirred in the recesses of slow minds. They planned raids on nearby Humans and toyed with thoughts of alliances with old rivals. Not even great soul-searching could explain why this was so. The Ancient Powers knew what was happening, though. The Waa-Ork was coming.
Gork and Mork stirred and a wave of fear passed through the warp. Suicide and incidence of violent crime climbed steeply. On Icolbar an Astropath screamed and threw himself from the balcony of a starscraper apartment, yelling that his people were doomed. On the craft-world Hope of Other Days, an Eldar philosopher stopped listening to the atonal music of his water-chimes and began composing his death-haiku, feeling his life had been justified. On distant Earth, a living corpse in a golden throne opened eyes that held fear for the first time in centuries.
Gork felt his attention being tugged towards one tiny world on the edge of Orkdom. A strange attraction drew him to it. He leaned down from warpspace and looked upon it. His breath brought storms in the Ash Desert. His gaze caused machines to break down. His lightest tread brought earthquakes. Seeing the disruption he was causing among his people he withdrew. He knew the time was not yet right for his return. He withdrew but he left a message.
Mork moved on the face of the warp, brushing aside Daemons and ignoring ancient barriers set by long dead Gods. He moved from world to world and placed in the heart of every Ork the desire to be restless, to move, to follow the siren call of adventure when it came. He sensed other Powers subtly striving to oppose him and laughed as their attempts to restrain his crude, irresistible purpose.
The Emperor knew that he must save his people. If Gork and Mork unleashed their hordes then any unprepared worlds would be swept aside by a green tide of death The Emperor bent his thoughts to the task. Across Human space, within the range of the Astronomicon, Imperial Tarot began to foretell disaster. Commanders consulting them found all the signs of impending catastrophe on a cosmic scale.
In the Segmentum Obscura, Battlefleets were recalled and prepared for war. On the homeworlds of the Adeptus Astartes, Space Marines reached for their weapons, knowing their time of destiny was near. On the edges of the Eye Of Terror, the Orders of the Adeptus Titanicus roused their ancient war-machines. Having surveyed his Empire and seen it was ready the dying immortal within the Golden Throne prepared himself for the conflict to come.
Gork and Mork knew that they were ready. Their people were agitated and prepared for battle The Emperor, their chosen enemy, had deployed his forces. The first skirmishes had been fought, now war was about to be joined.
Beyond them they sensed the Chaos Powers watching, waiting to see what advantage the God-brothers' actions might bring them. In the darkest pits of creation twisted creatures prepared to follow the Orks' advance. Gork and Mork did not care. They knew they were strong enough to resist Chaos.
The time was right. The time was now. It was time for Gork and Mork to have some fun.
In the Warp Gork and Mork waited, well pleased. Across the face of a million worlds their children were on the move, a green tide that would topple empires and re-shape the Universe. The Waa-Ork was on the move.'
I will post this on all of your videos until you watch Baldemort's: The Secret History of the Orks.
Please do
You should put in the "RAINBOW ORC/KRORK"
@@j.aquisado8858 99% sure that's not a thing, and I can't find anything mentioning it.
@@marmyeater The real stories are niche, but he did make A video about the Mysteries of 40k.
Like the mystery of the "Red Door"
The "Little girl of The Maze made by Zeetch.
Dark Artifacts of the Dar sector
And many more,
WESHAMMER did make videos about it.
Gork and Mork beating up Nurgle has the same energy as Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage beating up Nikocado Avocado
Caine, eldar god of warfare was broken into fragments and Isha, eldar goddess of love and fertility is a prisoner of nurgle, Cegorach is the only eldar god to live complete and free.
One of my favorite over powered people in 40k is Lord Kaldor Draigo. Nux would flip his shit learning about what he did.
Draigo is so OP it hurts
Yeah. I get that ham.
I too have a beard! It is full of TINY MEN!
Yeah, but that was Matt Ward writing, which should be ignored.
Ward went way over board with that part of the lore. Having said that, Grey Knights are awesome lore wise.
Dude Nux's ability to retain the lore with as little diving as he has done never ceases to amaze me. I've spent over 20 hours trying to explain the lore to friends, only for them to grasp half of what Nux has in half that time. Pretty impressive honestly.
"That’s the character from season 2 episode 3" bro how does nux remember this
a big thing to remember, horus wasn't more powerful than the emperor during the heresy. during their final dual, it started with the emperor was trying to save his son and hours was trying to kill his dad. hours wasn't able to kill the emperor, only mortally wound him, and since the fact that the emperor can't really die so a mortal wound isn't a big deal to him. on the other hand, the emperor erased horus from existence.
Exactly, if Big E had entered that fight with the intent to erase Horus from the beginning he would've instantly done it and Horus wouldn't have been able to put a finger on him.
Not fefe: Hey, nux, you wanna do a collab
Nux: Not now. I'm playing 40k
Inb4 Fefe falls down the rabbithole and plays Tyranids.
Or Drukhari.
#1 Kaldor Draigo:
" thats a good looking beard you have there sir... I too have a beard."💥💥💥
_Have you ever eaten a tangerine?_
Khorne has an entire world in the warp populated by a bunch of orks because he finds them so amusing and they just wont die, so he keeps throwing demons at them and the orks happily keep fighting because they is the biggest and da baddest and no stoopid demon is going ta git da best of dem.
The moment he was saved by his son Horus...
In that same moment he turned to the super Ork he said, "Now you die."
He then unleashed a massive front of his might that then killed every Ork tied to that Ork and erased there souls from existence. He so fundamentally destroyed them that his son Horus then doubted the Emperor wasn't as mortal as he liked everyone to believe.
He also plugged the hole in the Webway portal on Terra by creating a miniature sun composed of his pure psychic wrath IIRC.
@@fadelsukoco3092 He has that effect on daemons and people just walking about, in Belisarius Cawls novel, his presence is described as a sun that radiates and blisters the souls of others through proximity. But the Emperor has greater feats than that. Like a complete suspension of time for a chat in his more questionable state on the throne.
Nurgles garden is portrayed to be infinite in extent and he burned it wounding said god causing it immesurable pain.
The guy also revived his son at an atomic level.
The emperors powers are just complete bonkers. If he ever walked off of his throne he would be equivalent to or likely greater than an intact C'Tan, as his powers are also connected to the warp a much higher dimensional plane.
11:50 - this was oddly inspiring ^^ even to me as a 35+ dude. No idea how old Nux is but I'd bet he's significantly younger.
Unrelated.. well sorta.. I love how unfiltered and Chaotic Nux is. Seen him before but it's been a while. Subbed on YT and Follow on Kick :)
My favourite piece of Ork belief lore is their method of Warp travel.
The humans need to use a piece of technology to travel the warp called a Gellar field. A Gellar field is essentially a bubble of real space energy (a pocket of reality if you will) to encase the ship. As warp entities cannot fully survive real space, to try and pierce the Gellar field will be excruciating if not deadly. A piece of technology so powerful that it was created during the mankind’s golden age of technology.
The Orks use Spikes…….. literally just spikey metal on the outside of their mashed together tin cans they they’d like to call ships. Orks believe that daemons can’t get past the spikes, so most times they can’t. If an Ork ship gets invaded by warp entities, that is because the Mork lovin’ gitz simply didn’t put enough spikes on their ship.
The dude at 48:08 is wrong when he says Emps is fifth chaos god. He's a god of Order. Fifth chaos god is Malal/Malice, the embodiment of chaos' hatred of Chaos. Incidentally, each Chaos god is theorized to be merely a Greater Demon equivalent of The Primordial Annihilator: Ka'Yoss. Just a theory tho...
The dude is wrong basically the entire video . Thats why Weshammer is considered a joke amongst the actual legitimate fans of the series... He makes up 90% of the shit he says simply to suit his cringe lord wish as to how the lore goes. Its actually pathetic and sad but unfortunately he gets away with it because not everyone can keep up with the hundreds of books to get accurate stuff. But ya the dude is a literal cancerous joke to the fans
@@titaniumwolf1123What are you talking about?
You know this list is about to go crazy when #9 "introduced the emotion of fear to the physical universe" lol
The scariest thing about the Tyranids is not that they probably wiped other galaxies and are now converging on our own but the fact that we don't know if they come here of their own volition or if they are fleeing from something even scarier...
1:01:26 what you didn’t factor in is that censorship is also deceit, which empowers tzeentch.
He is the god of plots and schemes, lies and trickery.
The inquisition inadvertently pray to this bastard by their very existence.
1:56:51 The Emperor didn’t think that far ahead. It’s actually a common misconception by a lot of people who think the emperor wanted to have Horus turn and be defeated by him because he has gazillion brain IQ and future vision. The best way to explain how his future sight works I saw in a reddit comment once: ‘It’s like seeing an island (a potential future) and you need to find a way to get to it. Though you can’t see the sharks underneath the water, you have to be weary of pirates, you don’t know if the weather conditions will be favorable when you try and reach it, etc.’
So, a list of characters I would love to see you look into Nux.
Trazyn. I know he's on your radar but damn hes great.
Nemesor Zahndrekh. (Nekron)
Ciaphus Cain. (Imperial Guard)
Goge Vandire. (Imperium)
Sly Marbo (non canon, Imperial Guard).
Old One Eye. (Tyranid)
Commisar Yarrick. (Imperial Guard)
Commander Farsight. (Tau)
Mephiston (Blood Angels)
Commisar Fuklaw (non canon, Angry Marines (also non canon))
I only found your channel recently via the Mama Max drama. But as I went through your catalogue, I have to say: "I love this stuff". As a lifelong lore dork for Star Wars, Warhammer, and assorted other stories, I endorse this. Love watching your react videos. F all the haters!
Seeing you dive into the insane universe that is Warhammer, I love it
Dude Nux you the man!!! I just got into 40K a little over a month ago. Heard some 40K lore getting spit on a non-related podcast and decided to dive in myself and well……I dabbled with introductory set before going all in on a Leviathan set, so I already have formidable ultra marines and tyranid armies. I’m grabbing a Knight Abominant and starting up a Chaos Knights faction next while slowly collecting chaos sets for a chaos space marines army, then…..hmmm maybe necrons…..idk man I don’t see an end in sight I’m addicted to the smell of citadel plastic glue, 40K is so freakin awesome
19:10 You may have heard this story before as the legend of Saint George.
„An unstoppable force vs an immovable object“ is a literal quote from the Horus heresy
Thats probably because its ACTUALLY a real life quote commonly used among those of us that have left our basement before and ventured into the real world. But people here apparently think Weshammer is enjoyable and not a cringe factory estrogen cannon who should be publicly neutered to ensure its grotesque self never procreates. This would also stop a future r@pe from occurring, due to the simple fact that if he were to ever procreate, it would not be possible for the woman to consent to the act with him, because one cannot simply "be fine" with that travesty of a supposed man entering them. No amount of drugs and alcohol could ever make such a disgusting thought acceptable.
My favorite entity is actually from Warhammer Fantasy which is a whole set of rabbit holes on its own but still sorta similar to 40k. Its the Great Horned Rat sometimes referred to as the 5th chaos god. It is the god of all rats and the creatures known as the Skaven which are basically rat people (jokingly referred to as twitter users). The great horned rat is basically this very competent and scheming being but the race that follows it does so much infighting and has so much chaotic things and strife going on that they ultimately end up being unable to enact the great plan their god has for them. I see this god as sort of an angry and disappointed parent driven to alcoholism by their kids
The Skaven are great, but one of my favorite fantasy characters (after Gotrek and Felix, of course) is Luther Harkon, the schizophrenic vampire pirate fighting Aztec lizardmen
@@macewindu3492 certainly a great choice. My absolute favorite character would actually be Setra because of his immeasurable ego that he somehow manages to live up to
@@DorianTheReaper Settra is great. He's like the Warhammer version of Dr. Doom, just Egyptian. And like Doom, he drops some of the hardest lines in all of Warhammer. "Settra does not serve! Settra RULES!"
@@macewindu3492 thats exactly the moment that made me love him. In the totalwar games i love playing as the tomb kings as well. They and the skaven are my favorite factions to play.
It's important to note that the Emperor's Great Plan involved removing humanity's reliance on the Warp and he tried to starve the Chaos Gods to death by eliminating worship and belief in the existence of Gods.
In older lore though, it was hinted at that the Emperor had planned to ascend to Godhood via his death at the hands of Horus. The plan only partially succeeded though due to part of him being kept alive by the Golden Throne leaving only a half formed Warp Entity called the Star Child.
Gork and Mork: Nah, I'd win
I have recently gotten into 40k lore like 6 months ago and I’m new to this channel even though I saw your vids around! Good times
emperor step by step plan:
1: build up power to the level of the 4 chaos gods
2: one of chaos gods builds up power to be a problem to the other 3
3: the 3 chaos god deal with the problem chaos god
4: then the emperor comes in and kills the chaos god that was the problem when it is weak
5: one less chaos god emperor wins
im loving watching nux go down the warhammer rabbit hole
Nux if your interested in Tyranids, Lsyander & Koda do a great break down of how their invasion works and why their more intelligent then you think. Unfortunately they don't really get a lot in the way of important characters
He'd go bonkers for that what a good episode gotta love governor stooge
1:32:10 that is why, Nux, the Emperor is hellbent on finishing his webway project so no Chaos Gods will be empowered by humans no humans will ever again fall to Chaos Gods. That is why the Gods call him the Anathema.
Nux there is a newer faction that came out after bricky made his video. They are called the Leagues of Votan and they are badass capitalist space dwarf clones. Please check them out.
The new music while Nux talks is a huge step in the right direction. Good job Stevie.
3 40k things I would like nux to react to
- commisar yarrick
- warriors tiers ork video "Justice for yarrick"
- Krieg
2:08 Nux…you can feel your atoms as they de-atomize…it forces your perspective to slow down time through pain it’s not the death you want
Nux, Luetin09 is where you start, if you want Emperor of Mankind lore
Yes Luetin09 is really good
Weshammer is where you start if you want a bunch of made up bullshit simply because some marshmallow of a beta pansy ass soy Factory desperately wishes said lore was the way he wants it to be rarher than how it actually is
Hey Nux, after your next vid on all the Space Marine Legions by Bricky, you should look into the videos by the Templin Institute they are amazing for doing lore on individual things in Warhammer. My favorite videos are the ones on the Emperor, the Tyrannids, the Solblades, Cadia, the Blood Angels, and Chapter Master Dante, but all of them are amazing, and you will not regret continuing the deep dive my friend, for you have only just scratched the veil. Many mysteries hide within the warp, and all must be found by Lord Nuxalore!!!
There's an interesting suggestion that Tzinch often ruins his own plans and plots because he doesn't want the ultimate victory. After all, there will be no change after this victory.
Tzeentch. How tf you gonna make shit up about the lore and not even know how to spell the chaos gods name you are makin shit up about
@@titaniumwolf1123 English is not my first language. I write poorly in it, I used an internet translator. If you have any complaints about the meaning of what I wrote, I will be happy to read. Claims about letters are not interesting.
tbf, that's no english name lmao
1:50:56 my questions on the tyrinids are: why are they expanding their reach? Why do they need that much power? What are they so afraid of that they feel like they need that much power?
My favorite theory on Warhammer is that the Emperor is trting to become the chaos/warp god of order.
He persecuted religions not to get rid of religion but to make it so only those who REALLY believed in him would be left. We know that belief in the warhammer universe manifests into reality.
So if an entire civilisation believes he was a god, he will become one. Its almost happened, since the living saints are functionally the same thing as chaos demons, simply loyal to the emperor rather than the 4 chaos gods.
There are even some people in the Warhammer universe who believe that.
I think one of the demon primarchs talked to some imperial citizens trying to convince them to worship the chaos gods instead of the emperor. He eventually brought up that the emperor didnt want to be seen as a god. To which the citizen responded by saying that THAT was a test to see if their faith was absolute, to see if even when their god says "im not a god", they still say "he is a god".
It’s the equivalent of us looking at an ant threatening to bite us if we try to crush it. It will hurt us, but the bite will leave no noticeable damage in the long run.
Nux it is a joy to watch you take on the learning of this setting!
You are but at the shallow lore depths, like the DEEP warp the sea goes incomprehensibly deeper and more shadowed as facts give way to madness. All said: Remembrancer, Lueten, and Baldemort await you at the end of an impossibly long hall wreathed in gothic architecture skulls and gold to tell you the longform tales.
1:25:10 And Nux proceeds to realise that the Legion of the Damned could be a thing a moment before being told they're a thing.
The orks are basically the: "blows up pancakes with mind >:)' 'my fuckin pancakes >:0"
Nurgel teaches that everything dies but gives his followers an option staying alive experiencing the circle without dying and the best part for papa nurgel as far as i understand he takes away all the pain you have you may be disgusting but you wont suffer
Nux life lessons, so great. "If you can't change it, don't worry about it." If someone tries to make you mad/ sad just laugh."
He gotta check out a deep dive on Trazyn the infinite.
Man I been trying to enter warhammer as a tabletop and i love it it’s so random that when u pop off it feels amazing
Baldemort's St. George Day special has the Emperor fighting the Void Dragon.
That Wes is lying through his teeth about Big E killing the void dragon and not a shard of the void dragon
@@g1g4_ch4d7 🔩u
He only trapped it on Mars, and it was the full Void Dragon.
@@g1g4_ch4d7 don't spread misinformation
@@marmyeater tell him lil bro 💀🙏
If you are up for it Nux, Luetin made a gigantic multi part almost 10 hour dossier on the Big E. It can get a little rambly though and go on tangents, but Luetin is considered one of if not the best lore master in 40k.
Luetin09 has a deep dive on the emperor called "The Emperor of Man" that has some pretty sinister connotations
Im so glad you got into lovecraft lore as your doing 40k cause lovecraft is a HUGE influence in so many parts of 40k. I think the omnipresent despair everyone tends to lend to the terianids is 100% lovecraftian.
I Love Weshammer. Dude has a good cadence to his voice and covers a lot of topics in warhammer. Excellent videos to fall asleep to or run in the background while youre gaming.
No actual fan of 40k has ever said they love Weshammer. What in the actual cringe soy, 90% of the lore he says is actually made up BS, voice of a little girl who smokes a pack a day, kind of jacked up beta soup do you have to ram up your ass to actually enjoy watching that actual sub human cringe factory
... Leave our fandom immediately. Thanks
1:06:32 Conceptualizing "Sometimes he is a hoarse femboy" here made me laugh so much. Just the contrast in those statements...
19:44 The C'tan that was defeated by the Emperor was heavily wounded, and maybe partially shattered. He was hit by all Black Stone Fortresses at once. Weapons that increase their powert with procimity of each other, and are said to be able to easily destroy entire systems when together
The emperor has since hurt and forced nurgle to run away while possessing guillimen so, I still think his placement here is correct
@Fatalbeast22 Oh, absolutely. But it's well known he was much weaker back then. So, although he is immensely powerful in M42-M43 and has been for a while, it's highly unlikely he would be able to defeat a full C'tan at the peak of their powers, in a 1v1, with just his powers, no tech, faith of followers, likely no artifacts or genetic augmentations while in M1, and way before his pact with the Chaos gods
Jupp it HAD to be a shard of the void dragon since in tabletop the Necons do have the shard of the void dragon as a model, which would be impossible if the Emperor had locked away the entire C'tan.
This has been debunked endlessly just stop with the copium. It wasn't just a shard o desperate greasy one. Begone buttermilk bobs
13:20 Using that description of cegorach makes me also thing of velka from dark souls.
Just wait until Nux finds out about the other three Warhammer settings
What's the 3rd? I know about fantasy amd 40k
@@lordofnight9377 there's also Age of Sigmar, which is a pseudo-sequel to Fantasy after GW did the End Times. There's also The Old World, which takes place in the Fantasy setting, but much earlier than all the books and games. And there's also Blood Bowl, but that probably doesn't count as it's own setting
@macewindu3492 oh, thanks, I knew about AOS. In your opinion, how does it compare to fantasy?
@@lordofnight9377 I'm less familiar with the fantasy settings than I am with 40K, but from what I can tell is that AOS is a lot more unique when it comes to faction than Fantasy is, like their capitalist skyship dwarfs or skeleton tax collectors, but I miss some of the more unhinged stuff Fantasy had, like schizophrenic vampire Jack Sparrow pillaging the Atztec lizard people
@@macewindu3492 it all seems pretty retarded to me but I like the idea of the wood elves fusing with the forest spirits. Not sure what happens to malekith but it should be cool
My favorite fact about Slaanesh is that even though they're considered the "weakest" Chaos god, none of the other Chaos gods can kill her, because in order to do so, each of the other gods would need to "indulge" in their own wheelhouse too much, and would inadvertently strengthen The Dark Prince.
Nux needs to KNOW about RYLANOR and then listen to the song
The ancient Chad of rites.
The TRUE Emperor’s Child
Tzeetch is the ultimate embodiment of the phrase “The ends justify the means”. As long as those ends equate to his ultimate power lol
Lord Nuxalore the Devourer of Lores.
And his mind goblins.
I'm just waiting for the Ork's video lol. Nux has only grazed the nuts of their awesomeness.
Do the Bricky Space Marine Legions next pls!
we need the sweet 10k first
A few info:
-Perpetuals are new disney style lore.
- In the old lore the Emperor beat Horus while Horus had the full power of the Chaos gods. The gods had to flee or be killed alongside Horus.
-In old lore, Chaos gods never lost power, only gained more.
-The universe would end if the Emperor dies, submerged into the Warp. This was true up until very recently.
-The Primarchs used to be his clone sons, so his image is not an illusion. That was new writers trying to do a Ryan Johnson.
-The Chaos gods have rivalries. Khorne vs Slaanesh, Tzeentch vs Nurgle. But they used to in older lore team up against the Emperor. It is 1vs4 not 5vs5.
-Even older lore said that the Emperor would want to rule over and unite the Chaos gods into a "full psyche" but that was really old lore from the Eye of Terror Novel.
A personal aside: The universe contains trillions of galaxies. Chaos is bigger than the universe. The Emperor leeps the universe from Chaos. Tyranids ate, around 12 galaxies. They are strong, but not Chaos. Chaos is bigger than the universe.
And they did kill off the first property that 40k was the "in space" version of, Warhammer Fantasy. It is like middle ages Europe, but with dwarves ,elves, magic. The germans there (the humans are germans, french and chaos humans are vikings) even theorised that Khaine was just Khorne in an elf costume, and one had visions of 40k. And saif chaos vikings could get weapons from 40k ferried over to their universe, such as the magical Chain Sword, a sword which made a strange roar and had teeth move on its blade.
A few more facts:
-Orks used to be in millions of galaxies, outnumbering Tyranids.
-Necrons used to be even stronger, so strong that they were invincible. They got nerfed.
-This Wes is a new guy amd haven't bern around for that long in Warhammer, it is very old.
-Chaos gods used to not loose power, that is another new thing. They would retain every drop of power gained forever, unable to get weaker, only ever stronger.
Nux if you're curious about reading novels. I would highly recommend a short story called ''the last church'' it doesn't have any real crazy action or anything like that. Instead it just focuses on a Philosophical conversation between the emperor in disguise and a priest inside the last standing church after the emperor issued his order of banning all religion. and its the last day before they burn down this final church. It gives a ton of insight into the mindset that the emperor operates with. Pretty much all necron books are fantastic too
“You troll your way through life”. Elite advice!
A fun thing i find is that each of the chaos gods, had an alternate and mirrored space marine legion they could have gotten. Tzeentch and the dark angels being paranoid af like dark knights prepping for everything, khorne and the blood raging vampires in power armor, slaanesh and the or the drunk space vikings, though papa nurgal got his mens
I’d love to see a battle of wits with tzeentch and hermaeus mora. They are both technically eldritch gods from their respective universes.
Nux should find out about malice/mallal, the 5thish chaos god, the wierdo that is technically chaos itself but doesnt really do much because hes so chaotic
1:25:30 - Just wait until Nux find out about The Emperor’s actual Army of the Damned that exists and shows up by his summon in some weird way.
Tzeentch canonically had his maze of the "Nine Gates to ultimate knowledge" solved by a random little girl and her dog. Who was she? Well, we have no idea.
Also, there's a group of orcs fighting endlessly at Khorne's throne!
11:28 u/ExcaliburUmbraREEEE on the TH-camDrama sub brought me here, because he doesn't understand the Streisand effect. Good outlook man!
If you want more specific character stuff, Bricky's video on every single space marine legion has that for the primarchs.
Nux, I appreciate that you are trying to get people to catch up on the lore. But the video will literally explain it.
Nux needs to look at Sly Marbo
Fitting enough for a fictional series the Orks power is the suspension of disbelief
If you're actually planning on reading 40k novels.
I strongly recommend checking out 'The Infinite and the Divine' by Robert Rath.
It's a marvelous story while not being prohibitively lengthy, and given how much you seem to like the Necrons as a faction I reckon you'd take to it well.
You should do a video about the deep reaches of the warp, places where even the chaos gods are afraid to traverse and is said that even older, more primal, and stronger entities slumber (this is, as far as I am aware, a bit of speculation by the community).
1:19:37
Oh boy oh boy, I really hope that Nux uses the ... What is it now, 3 part? 4 part? ... Luetin09 deep dive on the Emperor!
If Nux wants some TRUE lore DEEP diving, he NEEDS to see Luetin's "Chaos and the warp" and "Nature of Time" videos.
THAT is *really* getting into the weeds of Warhammer 40K lore, yessir, yessir!!
Finally got around to watching this. A note for your brain worm Nux, the four chaos gods have teamed up against the God-Emperor of Mankind multiple times by the time Horus attempts to kill the Emperor
36:28 be honest Nux , you would
but the fact that the Tau tried to negotiate with the tyranides Lol
The Tyranids have only 2 major weaknesses. They do not have warp travel & move relatively slow compared to all other factions, albeit still inevitable. And they are slaves to biomass economy. Cost them emence biomass loss & they will back off, however that threshold is often astronomically high, AND they will come back even stronger better prepared.