100% Blind Reaction To ELDEN RING's Full Timeline & Lore...
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- rise now ye tarnished it's time for ya boi lord Nuxalore to begin the elden ring lore dive... from the bosses like the elden beast and the 4 billion tree spirits to the demigods like Malenia, Miquella, Ranni, Radahn to the endings like chaos frenzy flame to the simp ending to the npc quests like Gideon Offnir the Underwhelming... I shall consume all lore so check out Elden Ring's Lore ► Explained! by VaatyVidya: • Elden Ring's Lore ► Ex...
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Honestly, going all the way back to Vaati is like going to the origin of all narrated lore vids on this whole platform. He’s the og, he’s the one who first made it big through lore deep dives. It’s all top tier shit with him. Voicing included
A lot of people hate on Vaati because he gets a lot of his lore from other lore tubers who go way more in depth and these people hate that he’s the most popular … but they miss the fact that he is an amazing storyteller and narrator. I recognize the work of these other channels but Vaati’s stuff is easier and more enjoyable to digest. If I link a video of these other tubers to someone who isn’t a Fromsoft Fan they are going to glaze over and tune out. If I send these new people a Vaati video it will pull them in.
@@ausrick7 I don't dislike vaati I really enjoy his content but what you just said sounds like an extremely valid reason to hate tbf😂
@@krankkid7394 To be fair he pretty much always points out where he gets his information from. As stated he's just much better at presenting that information then the original researchers are. That and he also tends to compile information from several sources and does an entire dramatic in game movie to back it up. Frankly Vaati's haters are mostly just whiny brats, they have few really valid reasons beyond "he's popular so I dislike him." It's like hating the creators of a documentary for not being the original researchers. It's stupid.
In the end life is always about someone repeating your joke louder and funnier, it is what it is. Doesnt make it any less scummy tho.
@@krankkid7394how?
The fact that at 22 seconds after release nux already had 1 view and Charlie 0 means that Nux is on path to world domination
Check that again, brother. 😂
What if, now hear me out it gets a lil crazy, nobody gives a shit
Blud fell off if this is the top comment
Sekiro also made by From Software does some awesome stuff from Japanese myth and history. For example the Corrupted Monk boss was based a warrior monk who became immortal by accident. Her dad and friends found a fish by the river and during the process of cooking it the fish had a human face and spoke. This scared the crap out of everyone so they didn't eat it and decided to toss it away, but for some reason instead of burying it right there the dad took it home to throw it away later, only for his daughter to find it and eat it. They both freak out at first but there were little to no effects and everything was fairly normal. Then decades pass and everyone in her life grew old and died while she stayed the same. While her husband died at 80 she still looked 20.
Also the ministry a faction that's mentioned throughout the game and doesn't show up until the end is loosely based of the Tokugawa clan, a real samurai clan that still technically exists.
I learned about that myth from the internet historian lol.
My understanding of Destined Death is that it is the concept of Death as the inevitable, irrefutable, and irreversible end of things; you die and you don't get to come back because you effectively cease to exist in the mortal realm.
Marika's goal wasn't to remove Death from the world, but instead to control it so that death was only permanent when she decided it needed to be so, more importantly through controlling Destined Death meant that she could prevent it from being imposed upon her and she would be truly immortal.
The complication with this is that although Marika bound the Rune of Death, most things cannot return from death without some force to call them back, which is what Grace is; the lingering power of Marika and the Elden Ring guiding the Tarnished back to the land of the living, and when Grace fades from a Tarnished, their death becomes a semi-permanent thing. And there's another problem; Ranni stealing a fragment of the Rune of Death and using it to forge the Black Knives. The Black Knives individually are able to either inflict Destined Death upon the soul or the body, which is what happened to Godwyn and Ranni during the Night of the Black Knives; Godwyn experienced soul-death and lives on as the soulless, undying, and potentially mindless Prince of Death, constantly perpetuating the Deathroot and through it Those Who Live In Death, i.e. the soulless undead, while Ranni managed to slay her Empyrean body, breaking her connection to the Two Fingers and the Greater Will and allowing her to exist as a being of pure spirit animating a doll.
These fragments existing in the world mean that Destined Death is still freed, but only Maliketh and the Tarnished who slays him and claims the Rune of Death can wield it as an absolute and reliably enforceable concept.
This man went straight to Vaati. Someone knew to tell him what’s good
Bloodborne is basically souls mixed with London and lovecraft
South-East London specifically
Elden Ring is also Lovecraft-ish but a lot more subtle than Bloodbourne.
So the London backalleys?
Nah that just london on a peacful day
@@MaidenlessScrubBloodborne is a gothic lovecraftian horror. Elden ring is an ancient lovecraftian epic.
SmoughTown has a video summarizing the entire timeline and lore for people trying to get into it before dlc. Its 2.5 hours, so long as shit, but its a pretty digestable and easily accessed summary. I'm a Vaati absolutist tho, if I don't have my own opinion I'm married to I'm going with whatever Vaati says
SmoughTown is much more valid than this video
SmoughTown is my favorite thing to have going in the backround when I’m going to sleep
Smoughtown is much more consistent. Vaati will change his opinion whenever he finds and uses an uncredited new theory on Reddit.
@@conaldeugenepeterson2147 This was also one of Vaati's first lore videos on Elden Ring when the community was still figuring out the lore, so there's lots of misunderstandings that were commonly accepted in those first few months.
"so long as shit" and also "Digestable" hmmm dung eater?
If i am remembering it correctly, Marika was cursed by the fire giants, and to prevent her from being fully cursed, she split a portion of herself off to contain the curse and that portion became Radegon. Its why he has red hair like the fire giants and he passed it to his children.
Nux! Finish what's on your plate! I'm all for the lore devouring, but damn you for all the suspense you're building on all the other lore your starting!
Appreciate your content fam
Radagon has always been Marika. Vaati has since changed his stance and leaned heavily into this theory. It is the accepted version of events amongst the community and the only one that makes actual sense. This video was still relatively fresh after the game was released.
Yeah the twinned set pretty much confirms it. “They are of two bodies and two minds, but one single soul.”
She's possessed by the greater will. she cannot do anything because she is possessed. She splits herself into two people, the OTHER one being possessed, leaving her free to do all the secret shit without the greater will knowing. Seemed pretty obvious even at release.
there was a theory that radagon was made by Marika way way way back then through Silver Tears
@@apolloisnotashirt yeah but then how'd he get possessed by the elden beast?
Pretty sure the underground people doing that were cast underground as punishment for something. Pretty sure, "Your queen directly disobeyed your god" would be the appropriate reason for punishment.
@@acrab6527 what do you mean possessed? He wasnt he was turned into a literal sword. Though I agree with the whole town being sunk into the ground bit. For sure Marika or someone in Nokron or Nokstells did something so heinous they were pulled into the ground.
Nux: Mentions ponies at the end for a lore video.
The bronies climbing outta the fucking walls: "Take my money!"
55:14 noticing s staggering amout of parallels between elden rings deities and those of 40k
I really appreciate these Videos, not just for the Information, but how well Narrated they are,
He’s such a good Storyteller.
Nux I'm very glad you did this one
You sweet summer child nux you are just tripping in to this rabbit hole
Elden Ring is not just a big map, is a big map full of history, acient history. Which you are part of, just a fragment of what this game could offer.
And knowing just a bit of it, makes the game even better, because it is always there, just you weren't looking in the right places.
For me this game will be the game of the decade, is hard to surpass something so unique as Elden Ring, truly a modern masterpiece.
I really like how you geeked out over this, SAME 🤙🏾
23:52 After reading "THE CASE OF CHARLES DEXTER WARD", it's my head-canon that Elden Ring summons draw the inspiration from .HP.L.'s book.
I've been playing elden ring this past week for the first time, currently on the final boss after 40 hours, it's been so fun
40h!? Did you just skip ALL the optional content??? Well, at least you'll have most of the game left if you replay it.
@@pontusolin8771 pretty much, the side quests didn't really interest me too much except Alexander's and milecent's, I'm currently working my way through optional bosses, I've already beaten rykard and mogh today but I'm currently grinding a bit to beat Melania, once shadow of the erdtree comes out and I've completed it I'll probably start Ng+ maybe even re spec to a mage and then I'll do some more of the important side quests like dung eater, ranni, and gold mask
@@user-op6kt8pg9y40? Bro did you just watch a guide and b line through every area? Most people are just starting to explore Liurnia by the 40h mark
One of my favorite games to the point that I sought out the lore in game myself before watching VaatiVidya
Hey Nux! After this i HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY Recommend watching the Tarnished Archeologist's videos on Elden Ring. They reveal so much lore about the world that moat never acknowledge.
So glad Nux watching Vaati, the main dude for Souls lore
This guys videos are great, watch the rest of them. All wonderful lore put out in a great way.
Without any shadow of a doubt, vaati and smoughtown are 2 of the best, most consistent in quality loretubers for fromsoft. I know there's lots more, but i mainly watch these two. Ya gotta appreciate the sheer amount of work and dedication poured into every one of their videos
That's actually a solid question, why is it that Malenia and Miquella are Empyreans without shadow-bound beast??
Only reason I can think of is that Malenia already works like a shadow to Miquella.
@@velhokala8456I was thinking the same thing since they are twins ((I think)) and so the stronger of the two would act as the shadow for the other even though both are considered empyreans.
40:43 at the beginning of the Godfrey fight you can see a trail pf grace form him to you... indicating youre both tarnished being guided by grace to face each other for the title of lord and lead a new order... Thats all the greater will wants..
Finally! I was hoping for him to do VaatiVidya videos.
39:33 She had the nerve to attempt to dig deeper and faster into the outer gods intent than anyone previous. If one considers previous fromsoft lore, this makes sense as someone attempting to get ahead of these gods as they conduct their cycle. Attempting to assume their intent and observe it in action
The DLC kinda explains how Radogan and Marika are the same person and two different entities at the same time. Miquella on his journey to godhood that mirrors Marikas has to shatter his own being and leave to pieces of himself behind, which you use to follow his steps through the DLC. This is both a physical and spiritual process, and one of the fragments he leaves behind, his love, manifests as a separate entity, the goddess of sleep and dreams that wants to rejoin with the original self to prevent him from attaining the burden of godhood. Just like with Marika, the original represents causality, while the fragment left behind represents regression.
Watched all of the ending videos Vaati made and they are ALL incredible.
Though if you want to start with the more...disturbing ones, and fitting of Lovecraft's themes , Frenzy Flame takes the cake, followed by the Dung eater one...
(Though age of stars remains my fav... My boi blaidd 😢 💔)
Remember the last chapter of berserk by kentaro(chapter 364)? In the last panel we see that Griffith is the moonlight boy and in that way i think that marika is radagon.
26:11 she speaks through melina on multiple occasions
I hope he also does the endings. Those videos are incredible and some of my favorites.
Vaati actually has done hiur long videos on the different endings and the characters in each storyline.
There is some theory as to why Marika and Radagon seem so different too each other although they are the same being. Could be Miyazakis interpretation of joining of male and female characteristics into one being. Which comes from some occultism. I would recommend watching Max derrats videos on fear and hunger. Where he goes into the philosophy of the games and their occult meanings. I would also recommend watching tarnished archaeologists since he dives into the architectural discoveries and their connections to real world stuff to explain parts of elden ring that never gets mentioned.
24:33 supposedly, each outer god in elden ring can also be connected to a planet in the solar system. For example, the fell god is Jupiter because of the way his eye is one of jupiters poles. The greater will is outside even that framework.
EVERYONE is talking about elden ring right now and I’m here for it
31:15 tbf, each of these beliefs systems manifested in a very literal way
Marika hating the greater will and then being betrayed by radagon who was obsessively following the greater will caused many issues
Radagon hated the greater will. It forced him to leave Rennala and their kids (although indirectly)
@@edoardoprevelato6577 he didn't hate it. He specifically regretted this decision, but ultimately saw Greater Will as something which is good and worth making sacrifices for (and honestly, i can understand him. It was stability in order, even if flawed. Perhaps if Ranni didn't go with her bullshit plan, or Radagon had more time to fully merge with Marika, order would have became better)
That implies they aren't already merged which eh@@danylonazarov
@@DonovarkhallumI think they meant if Radagon and Marika’s opposing ideology was able to better settle the each other.
@@Donovarkhallum didn't there were Marika's phrase to Radagon about "you are yet to become me?". And, like, they're still distinct personalities, controlling body one at a time. Not truly one
~32:00
Extreme order is IT from "A Wrinkle in Time", or Big Brother from "1984"
I remember there was a piece of lore that Radagon was a part of the elden ring of which Marika became and she had separated him to help fill in for Godfrey and also be her hand in the world per the greater will but used that to her advantage and plans
26:23 she was just hanging around.
There is a theory that Melina is the daughter of Marika and Radagon as except for Malenia and Miquella they seem to come in sets of three (Godwyn, Mohg and Morgott, Ranni, Radahn and Rykard and then Mallenia and Miquella) That could also explain why she knows so much about Marika and is so invested in you becoming Elden Lord. That's also somewhat substantiated through the collectible butterflies, burning ones, rotting ones and ephemeral ones each supposedly standing for Melina, Malenia and Miquella respectively. Also makes kind of sense because aside from Godwyn, Morgot and Mohg the other sets all have the same first letter in their name which could be explained by the Ohmen Twins having been shunned and locked away beneath Leyndell.
I overall like this theory a lot but I don't know if there is any more evidence or if it just sounds nice.
1:20 You're close. Most souls games (the exceptions being Bloodborne and Sekiro) are more derivative of Conan The Barbarian which was written by Robert E. Howard, HP Lovecraft's contemporary and penpal. Howard and Lovecraft even included references to each others work in their stories.
He is the king of yapping
I'm working on leveling up my build for the DLC that will be a crucible knight build and I named him "Recusant Knight" because to heck with the Golden Order!
First Warhammer and now Elden Ring? Nux is going to have a lot to cover.
I think you should watch all his lore playlist and then Prepare To Cry.
The DLC trailer videos are also great
50:46
That's a big reason why I love FromSoft games, they aren't just a "difficult boss game" for me, they are a mystery, the mystery of where the hell we are to begin with, exploring the world and what's around every corner, the mystery of the story and piecing it together, even the boss fights are a mystery, what do they do and how do I beat them.
In most games a boss is there to be beaten, but in Elden Ring you need to know the boss and its moves to beat it, unless you are a filthy mage(I'm joking)
"Dude, these fingers... From behind..." Nux 2024
Radagon is Marika and MARIKA IS AIZEN/KENJAKU
48:10
Oh man Themis guys videos are like a documentary watch all of them! Particularly the dragons lore
If anyone sees this don't read it, you will get bored
8:17 Marika also is basically a farm girl who had a dog, greater will said you'll do and that was that, she took away the rune of death because she didn't want to think about her doggo dying, that's canon, it's in the lore
11:08 technically, but the greater will getting the elden ring, is like a divine codex of the world, which is why people can make runes, editing the divine law, flame of frenzy destroys it entirely and ranni (speculation) makes her own divine codex where gods cannot influence the world at all
16:59 he got it boys! mohgs area and caelid are what happens when a outer god manifests more of it's power onto the world, changing it to fit their divine nature, or will or something
19:41 yes! and no, more so they have the ability to channel the divine law, and outer gods try to force them to be that change no matter what, like the flame of frenzy when it inhabits you, or Malenia when from birth the scarlet rot afflicted her, not her choice, or the greater will but the 'rot god' that is trying to gain influence in the 'mortal world'/ elden ring world
20:46 find out in the dlc!/we don't know, yes he does have a doggo, but we never see them so could be dead or otherwise
22:19 yes and it is has cool as it sounds, whereas, the night of the black knives happened because rannis servants stole the rune of death from Malekith (duh), presumably by saying drop it, then left it inscribed in godwyn, it's why their in hiding everywhere, and more importantly working as border police for miquella along with the albanauric archers
23:57 some ashes you take from them upon murder like tricia, which is kind of a bummer, but yeah, very cool explanation for death, it also quite easily explains why you can kill demigods, it also has consequences when something is alive but has no soul/ash to return to the erdtree, like godwyn
25:16 also it destroyed the entirety of the fire giant people, also why she (marika) married godfrey/ hourah loux, who was still hourah loux at the time in exchange for the might of his armies, when she won she actually still kept with him for a while, then they divorced for reasons, and he and his people left, your player character is one of those, now if your a barbarian you probably stayed directly with him, as when he left he got depressed and reverted back to his barbarian form as you can see in the beginning slideshow when you begin the game, as he is shot down by arrows, but then he got a little bit of grace with him, however, as tarnished who coinhabited with normal erdtree denizens you have the option to be apart of a different crowd as of it, like the prisoner or the warrior
26:19 you get a bit of dialogue from Melina from some reason (80% sure she's the gloam eyed queen/another doll of ranni, because of the eye thing) explaining some of her speeches or private dialogue with radagon, because they were seperate, not just her disguising herself like miqualla and st. Trina, or maybe just like Miquella and st. Trina, haven't seen a concrete answer on that
26:57 well no dragons are technically of the golden order, as Godwyn the golden child, fought Fortisaax (or Lanseaax though that might be fortisaax's sister) and fortisaax was so impressed, they just became bros, and because of that the dragons becamwe allied with the golden order/side dragons could turn into human form, for some reason
27:12 WE LOVE RACISM, and political maneuvering, as the flame (which is semi another outer god that is not the flame of frenzy) can burn the erdtree, the fire giant is the last non slave caste of his kind, as he still has the belly that can summon the outer god, it's why the other giants are disembowled.
27:29 for now yes, later raya lucaria itself does a coup against the royal familly, and locked Renalla in the library, and the rest of the 'family' (only ones left are Rykard and ranni ) are hiding inside their manor as a base of operations as she was in her bummer zone at losing the love of her life Radagon, presumably because she gave him a red dog, (he hates the color red)
29:06 yes the fire giants specifically serosh is his therapy cat now
29:31 Fortisaax is also a bro, just not to you, because his soul is corrupted by death
29:52 naw he's even worse, some grandson of a grandson niece of a grandsons nephew
30:12 apparently some plan involving him, or maybe because he was just sad now only going to pub/ bar with his crucible knights, remembering the good old day when he could dismember people, or only giving her (
I love that no vtuber can talk about Elden ring without mentioning Bao's thirst for the Wolfman.
nuxanor has gone live alerts are going crazy on kick
11:30 that’s Melina’s VA BTW.
I recommend Prepare to Cry The frenzied flame it's a masterpiece of a video.
Radagon is essentially the part that follows the Golden Will, and Marika is the part that is defied against the Golden Will after knowing its true self.
My own theory about radagon and marica is that it's a similar thing to the npc D and his brother, where they share a soul but have 2 bodies, but in merica and radagons case it's kind of the reverse, 2 souls 1 body.
I just thought of something crazy. The weird lion head boss from the dlc trailer could be Miquella’s shadow.
This makes me want to give another run at elden ring. Last time I only made it to Goodrich the grafted.
Sometimes I just wait till Nux changes the thumbnail to watch the video, because if the thumbnail was changed, that means it probably was worth watching
VaatyVidya dark souls 1 prepare to cry series is a must watch
Cant wait for nux to tackle the 6hr long lore video of armored core 6
0:46 I was not ready for something I should've expected, every single one? dam laddy how you obtain any levels due to missing a Madien my g?
I'm really enjoying the Warhammer 40k lore, good to keep variation but wanted to voice my support
I love how Elden Ring seems to take place in a world where abstract concepts are made manifest in their own reality, and all interact (or not) as though people or at least non-immaterial.
Being a god in a higher dimension would be much like an artist sitting with a drawing. He can't enter the page, but he can write, draw, create, erase.
Nux should react to Elder Scrolls Lore.
His brain would fry trying to understand that acid trip of a setting
For the two people being one thing. It could be that they were always two beings before the shattering and after it the rune of time made it so they were always one? Seeing how the rune of death changed the world on such a drastic scale when removed
I hope if Nux does DkS lore that he does the original Prepare to Cry series, and not just the updated ones, so he gets all the info (and the stories that were not updated)
15:10 actually azatoth is the creator of the verse if I’m not wrong as the whole verse is just his dream, idk, I just read somewhere something like this.
Please make a video on the 5 hour armored core 6 lore video
10:00 no one ever said that the Golden Order was about Justice, I think that is also a reason Marika may have turned her back on it. Like, what was the point in everything she was doing? It was really ever justified very well.
please more elden ring lore deep dive i love it
nux definitely being the guy to put a mimic helmet on his head
"we are pawns to be pushed around by cosmic entities" which is why ranni's ending is the best, where you tell all the outer gods to go fuck off and leave the lands to their own devices.
I'd kill to have Nux watch the whole Prepare to Cry series
Down the From Software rabbit hole, eh? Vaati's Armored Core Lore when?
Do you mean the 5-hour one!?
lol there’s no way he’s doing that 5 hour video
Look he now needs to do five hours of robot lore
@@isaac5154 I'd say the speedrun one where he was prepping himself before the AC6 was released by going through all the armored core games prior to
I belive Radagon and Marika is kinda like (Hell's paradise) if you have seen the anime or manga. Sort term the "God" split imself into 7 parts and all seven can change between male and female. So i think in the beging sence ones blond and one has red hair due to a curse Marika accully made a 2nd self with diffrent values and onec she breaks the elden ring Radagon re fuses with Marika to stop her and refix the elden ring. Cause even in the end we fight Radagon but the corpse left is Marika when u win the fight
a theory going around is that she is either Miquella other persona, ranni's twin or even ranni herself. I mean she has her eye covered just like ranni
I’ll be waiting for the day Nux does a Halo video
It might be wrong but my head canon was always that Miquella's "shadow" instead of being a wolf, was Malenia.
We need Nux diving into Elder Scrolls lore
Just imagine when we make Nux tackle Metal Gear or Kingdom Hearts…..
This would be great
Yeah... where KH?
METAL GEAR? 🧐
Metal Gear is gonna melt his brain lol
I did both to my friend over discord and it was hilarious
Emperyan is a title given to Demi-Gods who have the ability to become a god/vessal for the greater will. It was a name created by the Two Fingers think of it like Prince/Princess they are the next in line to become king/queen or in this case a vessal for the greater will...
it just so happens all Emperyans attract other outer gods because of there natural strength who try to Seduce in Moghs case or outright force them in Malenias case to become vessals for them lol
Also shadows are given to Emperyans by the Two Fingers as there own personalized body gaurd that are connected directly to there soul so if the two fingers don't like you, you wont get a shadow and if you have a shadow a betray the two fingerd they have the power to make the shadow turn hostile..
My favorite saying comes from a shrimp vendor in this game
Numan and Newman is used in Phantasy Star Online to refer to space elves. I'm wondering of Marika's race (the Elden Ring Numen) is a reference to that, since they're also described as being "long-lived but seldom born", like typical Elf lore in all fantasy. Is it a term used beyond PSO, as well?
FOUL TARNISHED embolden by the flame of ambition
Miyazaki and Martin: *Create a beautiful world full of near perfect storytelling and amazingly complex characters*
Me, The Foul Tarnished: That's a pretty tree. IMMA KILL IT
Can't wait for dlc to come and add even more lore to the game
Nuxalore discovering how well woven and intricate fromsoft lore is, bloodborne will blow his mind
I came here because of the thumbnail and the lore.🤩
The Outer Gods were playing RTS and the Land Between is just another Map to them.
I'd love to see Nux cover the video "The Absurd Powers of John Constantine" by WebCamParrot :)
You ever check out Shrek lore? The story behind the scenes is pretty crazy
LETS GOOOOO ELDEN RING LORE BABY WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! 💪🏼💪🏼
I was looking firward to these reactions. Too bad Nux clearly watched the videos already.
Nux should react to the all the weird demon and gods lore of world of warcraft (most of them being just lovecraft lite)just to mess with him more lol
My god, I can’t believe I never thought about it.
Must do dark souls. Must do dark souls. Must do dark souls.