"I am Alpharius, this is a lie." - Alpharius pretending to be Omegon pretending to be Alpharius to honor his brother Alpharius who was actually Omegon pretending to be Alpharius
@@abridgedbog7753 Rogal Dorn after the battle of pluto leans over to a Huscarl and whispers, "I am Alpharius." He then keeps walking like nothing happened.
The thing about the Alpha Legion is that when Bricky said 'we think' they're Chaos, he's not kidding. They're destabilisation specialists, and Chaos kinda SHOULD HAVE WON by now. There's a school of thought that says the Alpha Legion infiltrated Chaos itself, and are helping preserve the Imperium by very carefully messing with Chaos' plans.
I could have sworn he mentioned this in the video but I guess I was wrong. But yeah I remember someone saying something that there's a possibility that the legion is split between being loyal to the emperor and to chaos at the same time which in a funny way still makes what you said line up lmao.
Alpha legion play the smartest, and least "fair" of all the legions. a squad of 10 once took down an entire (HEAVILY populated and industrialized) star system.... they hijacked a bunch of random farm workers, injected them with a custom made fungus, and let them go. no ransom, no nothing. in a manner of months, the fungus has spread into the water supply and completely WIPED OUT the agri-world that supplied the other worlds in the system. by the end of the year food riots, governmental collapse, and civil war (financed and supported by the alpha legion) was system wide and the legion itself NEVER FIRED A SHOT.
Funny thing about Lorgar: He's still alive, but hasn't been seen since the Horus Heresy because Corvus Corax has been waiting outside his front door to kill him for 10,000 years
Yeah Konrad's story is really sad. For example he has a gift that allows him to see the future but his brothers just shrugged it off when he tries to warn them because the feel uncomfortable around him.
That, and he also became the Night Haunter to liberate his people in a twisted way. He committed all those atrocities against the crime lords and gang leaders to scare everyone into submission and rid Nostramo of violence. But once he left, crime picked back up, and his legion was repopulated by the worst scum of humanity. He even allowed himself to be killed once he realized he had turned into the very thing he sought to destroy.
Man I love the fact that the Alpha legion druged a world that had a ton of psychers with a hallucinating gas that made all the psychers in the world to have the same dream in which rains snakes, but then the collective consciousness of the sleeping psychers materialized the snakes into reality and killed like half of the world population in a day.
I love the Blood Angels, because their primarch was the closest thing they had (besides Vulcan of course) to a truly good Primarch, who looked at their marines - outcasts that were shunned by the rest of the imperium because of how brutal they were on the battlefield, - and knelt before them himself, because he felt that he was the one who needed to prove his worth to these warriors who bled for a thankless galaxy. And when he died, they lost the ONE person in the world who truly cared for them and saw them as more than monsters, and they fucking slaughtered every heretic and demon in their way while under the effects of the Black Rage, pushing a large portion of the invading heretic faction during the Horus Heresy back. I would HIGHLY recommend either MajorKill's video on the Blood Angels/Sanguinius, or Oculus Imperia's video on the Blood Angel's history. They're both fantastic. For Sanguinius.
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT! I love the Iron warriors so much. Something Bricky didn't really expand on about them is even though they're a "traitor legion" they aren't really followers of chaos, more like an employee that hates their boss/company and left for a better job. As he mentioned, instead of worshipping the dark gods, they essentially use them as a tool. They dislike chaos enough that, when demonic mutations begin on a marine, they amputate the mutation and replace it with machinery. At the current point in time they could be considered one of the most powerful of the traitor legions, as they are one of the most unified traitor legions left.
It's my belief that Perturabo's goal is to destroy the four chaos Gods, or at least to shatter them and imprison or destroy as many fragments as possible.
Yep I was always Orkz fanboy but if there is a Space Marine Legion I love it is Iron Warriors, tough I love that siege extreme industrial vibe of " we need more ammo, turn another planet to toxic dump"
So Bricky skips over the 2nd and 11th legions because in the official lore, those primarchs and their legions vanished without a trace and all records of them have disappeared. It basically gives players the freedom to just paint their Marines our own choice of colours and create our own lore for them, and have them still be canon (or at least canon-adjacent).
well, not really. it is more that they have been forgotten on purpose due to whatever horrible thing they did. it is very much said multiple times in a lot of the novels that even the primarchs are not allowed to talk about them. it is just unknown what they did to make them suffer that punishment. theories goes from them having a very bad genetic flaw, too they turned on the emperor himself.
@@sakrefunholy So IIRC the thing about both legions is that everything about why they were forgotten, and what happened to them is not talked about. All data was purged, no one was allowed to speak about it, those who knew either had to die, had to swear on their death to never tell, or had their memories or ability to recall it removed. While this implies some sort of vile act even more horible than what Horus did (and let's not forget: He mortally wounded the Emperor after turning 8 other legions against him!) it might also be a safeguard for said legions, in order to aid them in some sort of long-term plan. It's the ABSENSE of ANY kind of information about them that's so remarkable.
Lion El'Jonson of the Dark Angels and Leman Russ of the Space Wolves actually had a rivalry during the great crusade. It culminated in them having a fist fight with each other which lasted more than 24 hours. Eventually Jonson knocked Leman out with a sucker punch because Leman Russ started laughing at how stupid it was that they were fighting each other. Despite this rivalry they both deeply respected each other and their legions. Lion El'Jonson actually discovered the Wolfen Curse (space wolves turning into werewolves) that plagued Leman's legion, but out of respect for Leman he kept it secret and never told anyone else.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames When Dark Angels and Space Wolves meet, each group chooses a champion, then the two champions re-enact the duel of their Primarchs by beating the crap out of each other for fun (and honour, don't forget the honour)
Typhus is technically supposed to be Mortarion's second-in-command but the two of them absolutely DESPISE each other. Mortarion hates Typhus because he was directly responsible for the Death Guard's fall to Nurgle and Typhus hates Mortarion because he rejected Nurgle's gifts at first.
I'm not sure you heard it during the Alpha Legion Part, but No One actually knows whether they're actually Loyalists or Traitors. Basically, the Twin Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon were separated, one raised by the Emperor (theory is that one of these two was the first Primarch that the Emperor met, and personally raised.) while the other twin was the last Primarch found. and when the Horus Heresy started, They both understood that Chaos was bad and that they had to take it down for the Emperor, so they did it in the way they do things, infiltration. They joined the Traitors. the issue afterwards was then what their goal was. one believed that Chaos had to win the Heresy, reasoning that Chaos would basically burn themselves out because that twin believed that the Emperor's goal was to destroy Chaos, while the other twin wanted to simply just keep sabotaging the Traitors and Chaos because that other twin believed that the Emperor's goal was to free Humanity from Chaos. but during the Heresy, one of the twins died, supposedly the one named Alpharius, but it could have also been Omegon pretending to be Alpharius, or it could have been neither. None of the other Primarchs even knew that they were Twins! they only knew that the Primarch of the Alpha Legion was named Alpharius. and none of this is 100% confirmed. so no one knows who's alive, which twin is which, and what''s their ultimate goal! who knows!? not even Alpha Legion knows.
@@steelbear2063 There are loyalist Alpha Legion in lore, like one who works for Inquisitor Eisenhorn in Bequin series. Great thing about 20th legion is that you can use them as traitors or loyalista in table top.
I don't remember if it's actually canon or just a theory but supposedly Alpha Legion is split into two factions. One is loyalist and helps The Empire where they can but in a way that they usually still seem traitor. The other faction is actually traitor. This does make sense as during Horus Heresy most of them, lead by Alpharius, were truly traitor. Smaller part of them, led by Omegon, went kinda rogue and sneakily sabotaged traitor efforts were they could..
Sanguinius, even Horus said he would not like to fight him in anger, Sanguinius lost not because he was outmatched, but because he was exhausted from 3 days of constant fighting, from single-handedly holding one of the gates of the Palace. The Thousand Sons Traitor only because Russ didn't check who gave him the Kill command. 'Everything I do from this point I do for the Imperium' Alpharius? moments before his 'Fall'
@@thomash341 true, but he didn't check with Daddy, surly the command to wipe out a legion should only come from the head guy and not the No 2, Russ hated Magnus and this gave him an excuse.
@@stevencavanagh7990 He was more than number two though. The emperor removed himself from the crusade and left matters of war to Horus. If Leman had to double check with the emperor, then Horus never would’ve been Warmaster to begin with. Granted, I’m sure Leman to some degree took the situation as a chance to roll Magnus but I don’t think Leman would’ve outright killed him unless he got the green light which he did in this case.
Or... There's a theory that Sanguinius beat Horus but succumbed to the Black Rage and Big E. had to put him down and covered up the truth. But that's just a theory... x)
@@stevencavanagh7990 Honestly, Leman Russ should’ve figured something was up when Magnus didn’t give his men an order to defend prospero, but once Magnus realized Leman was trying to kill all of them, he was totally warranted in everything he did to get revenge in the wolves afterwards, including the destruction of the successor program on Fenris.
The Space Wolves are noted for having the oldest living (dreadnaught entombed) space marine in 40k. Bjorn the Felhanded, he stood at the side of Leman Russ during the Great Crusade and took the helm of leadership when Leman disappeared into the Warp. This man is so venerated by those who see him, he was able to convince the Inquisition to stand down from unjustly persecuting the Wolves after the First War of Armageddon.
For anyone that doesn't know, the 2nd and 11th legions are referred to as "the forgotten and the purged" it is known only that the missing primarchs and their Legions are listed as having been "deleted from Imperial records.". Also, real talk: Roboute Guilliman is the most English, Englishman in a universe full of Englishmen. :P
wrong. Guilliman is meant to evoke the proverbial "last of the romans". Dorn is the one modeled to be the quintessential english gentleman: stoic to a fault, zero sense of humor, honorable beyond reproach
The best way I've seen someone describe the Alpha Legion is that one part is loyal, another part is traitor, another is loyal but in reality they are spies for Chaos, another is traitor but in reality a spy for the Imperium, another part doesn't know who fights for so they attack everyone, another is a spying on their own legion and another who in reality isn't fighting for everyone.
Vulkan and Konrad are two of the most interesting Primarchs, literally two sides of the same coin. Konrad saw the Emperor as a liar, a coward unwilling to face the consequences and machinations of his crusade to unify humanity, Vulkan knew the Emperor's dream could not last as a lie but was necessary at the time to keep humanity safe. Needless to say when they met for the last time it was.... a mess. Loyalist: Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Iron Hands, Dark Angels???, Ultramarines, White Scars, Raven Guard, Salamanders Heretics: Emperor's Children, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, World Eaters, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Black Legion, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion???, The 2nd and 11th legion exist for people to make their own custom chapters of space marine, and are thus never named. "Touching Grass" is a euphemism for "go outside and interact with actual real people".
Oh it's Bricky. I'm a mod for him and their play group on the Dice Check channel. Always good to see one of the crew's work being reacted to. Looking forward to future reactions.
To show you how dedicated Rogul Dorn was, him, Jaghatai Kahn and Sanguinis were the only three primarchs defending Holy Terra (Earth) from horus and his legions
I'd love for them to watch and react to Helsreach!! Of course it would have to be over a couple of episodes due to how long it is. But everyone who gets into the 40k universe should watch this.
It should be noted for most of the Traitors legions whose home worlds have been blown up it was the Lion and the Dark Angels who did the planet destroying except for the Thousand sons(the space wolves did it) and the Night Lords(the night lords blew there own planet up) but the others where the Dark Angels and rhe lion going a a Vengemce tour.
Fun fact the Raven Guard are actually pretty nice people like the Salamanders. Their primarch Corvas Corax came from a world that he helped liberate from horrible oppressive slavery and loved making tyrannical crap hole worlds be overthrown and made better imperial worlds. As long as they serve the emperor then the Ravenguard are more then happy to help rebellions against bad planetary governors to replace them with worthwhile ones, after all it makes the empire better in the end and means no actual traitorous rebellion down the line.
I find it funny that sometimes people are fully introduced to warhammer 40k's lore due to the fact how nice and respectful the supposed lore masters like Bricky are to those noobs.
Something that Bricky didn't have time to go into because of the video format is that pretty much all of the heretic legions (maybe except alpha legion) are very sympathetic up to a point (It is 40k after all, there are no good guys, ehh salamanders are closest in marines). Anyway, they're sympathetic in that most of the reasons they fell are very human failings that could have been overcome if the Emperor had actually been a good dad and paid attention to his sons more instead of treating them like tools. Basically, the vast majority of this is the emperor's fault.
He's not lying when Gilliman really wants to die. He is so depressed that when he finally reunited with his father after seeing what has become of him. His father offered no kind of comfort he just referred to him as the 13th has returned. And in his mind he believes that the emperor does not care one iota about him. To some extent that is true but the emperor does on some level does care about his sons. The reason why he has received no comfort is because the emperor's mind is completely shattered. And Gilliman misinterpreted what happened. But it's an understatement that he is very very depressed and is very trying to hold this empire together. He is trying so hard to get it back on track and it is difficult.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah well imagine you have been fighting a war for thousands of years to try to reunify the Galaxy. To create a safe space for Humanity to thrive to rebuild the Golden Age of humanity. You trying to get people to build to get supply lines going and trying to get the. Adeptus mechanic is to invent something and know how something works instead of just keeping replicating things. And don't know how they work you have to understand the great crusade was coming to an end and things were getting back on track. Things were not that bad there were no religious zealots the emperor kept telling people to don't worship him as a god. They were actually normal people sure there were a few slaves here and there but. It wasn't very bad The Hive cities were actually making a comeback and turning into actual regular cities. And actually paying the citizens things were looking up the Eldar were kept at Bay. There were no necrons no tyranids the orcs were pounded almost to Oblivion things were going good. And it was only going to get better since the emperor was going to give Humanity The ultimate gift. Access to the web way now what's special about this is they would no longer have to use the warp for travel. No longer would they be going through the warp to feed the chaos gods they would. starve to death and they would eventually disappear. And citizens were going to be moved into the web way. And it speculated that the emperor plan to get rid of the Dark Eldar completely eradicating them. And turning the dark city of the Eldar into a paradise and it's very possible he could have done it. The plan was to have Magnus sit The Golden throne and power the web way. That would be his ultimate sacrifice the ban on psykers would have been removed and Magnus could sit on The Golden throne. And then the emperor would have made one last campaign against. The Dark Eldar settle it with humans and the chaos Gods would have been starved to death over a course of a few millennia. Eventually the Space Marines would have been decommissioned possibly killed like the thunder warriors or. Be redistributed as some kind of politicians probably because that was the idea Gilliman had. For his legion he wanted his legion to be educated because. He wanted the Space Marines after all the fighting was done to be politicians statesman leaders. Future governors of planets he wanted them to be educated and sophisticated not just these battle-hardened warriors. Because eventually The crusade was going to be over and things were just going to be looking up. There was no religion of the imperium things were looking good. And then Horus had to lose his mind and start the heresy. And then everything after that fell into. Poop Hive cities became worse Imperial colonies became worse the Imperial cult was established the age of apostasy started. Religion started to be cracked down upon if you didn't believe in the emperor you were shot on sight and this is not what gilliman wanted this is not what he fought for. He did not fight for a mankind to be superstitious zealots and he hates every single. One of these zealots he hates these people he absolutely wants to kill them. But he knows he can't do that if it was any other son of the emperor if it was lion el Johnson everyone would be dead.. The highlords would be dead he would go crusading against all these. Inquisition freaks he would dismantle the Imperial religion. But Gilman knows he can't undo all this damage by just killing everyone he has to do it over time and it's weighing heavily on his mind. If it was any other son any other son of the emperor people would be dead people would be dying left and right. They even tried to betray gilliman and have him examined by inquisitors to see if he was the son of the emperor that's how insane this has gotten right there in front of you a son of the emperor has returned but they don't want to believe it because they want to hold on to power.
Can never express how much I love the Salamanders as a Imperium Legion. They are by far what I personally believe to be THE perfect embodiment of humanity in 40K. In lore it's pretty safely clear and stated that Horus or even Sanguinius were the Emperors favorite sons, but I believe Vulkan is the perfect cut picture of what the Emperor wants his Primarchs and Humanity to be due to his unending trust in him and keeping him close by his side.
So, a couple quick explanations (some of which may be stuff you already picked up on, and I apologize in advance): 1) The phrase "touching grass" is an internet culture slang term for going outside, essentially unplugging for a bit. Totally understandable not to get that, as you guys probably "touch grass" a lot more than most of us on YT. 2) The reason for the reference to the 2nd and 11th legions and immediately hopping into the next legion is because, canonically, all knowledge of those legions specifically has been expunged from *every record.* Even the people who "know" don't really know in a weird kinda way. 3) Bricky started off with "Allegiance:" And would state whether they were loyal/loyalist (still with the Imperium) or traitor/heretic (now running with Chaos). Which makes the Alpha Legion even *more* interesting because, while they're heretics at face value, *no one knows* if the Alpha Legion are actually traitors or if they're playing the long con and trying to sabotage Chaos from the inside, sleeper style. People have debated that bit of lore HEAVILY. Finally, I gotta say, my likes in the legions are remarkably similar to Bethany's. The Alpha Legion's intrigue is awesome and makes you think, the Salamanders are the closest you get to "good guys" in the world of space marines, and the Space Wolves aesthetic is just plain cool!
An Interesting fact about the Space Wolves is that they were also kind of the Punishers of the Emperor when they attacked the Thousand Sons they did so on commabd of the Big E himself and the lore heavly implied they are the reason there is no 2nd and 11th Legion
I like the Night lords (the blokes that skin people and throw them out the airlock) because they actually were the most effective of the legions in the sense of they killed the least people and left everything intact, by killing a thousand in the most gruesome way they saved the millions that surrendered without a fight.Its also for the same reason that I enjoyed the Jaquin Pheonix Joker movie they all tragic characters that had zero chances of becoming anything but monsters and its fascinating to watch the slow changes unfolding.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah there was a dracula movie awhile back where Vlad the impaler makes pretty much the same argument that if he hadn't killed the people he had in the horrible way he had they would've fought back and thousands would have died instead.
Okay if you were wondering why Ricky kind of glitched on the second Legion is simply put there is no second Legion the emperor himself has deleted any record of that Primarch and that Legion we don't know why we don't even know their name so there considered a mystery even amongst the most adapt member of the Inquisition. This is also done to the 11th Legion as well
Loyalist: Dark Angels, White Scars, Space Wolves, imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Ultramarines, Salamanders, and Raven Guard Traitor: Emperor’s Children, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, World Eaters, Death Guard, Thousand Suns, Sons of Horus (Black Legion), Word Bearers, and Alpha Legion Book recommendations: Night Lords trilogy (Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver, Void Stalker) First Heretic (pretty much Lorgar’s heretic origin story), Betrayer (Sequel to First Heretic that focuses on the World Eaters) And Horus Rising. Personally my favorites are the World Eaters, Death Guard and the Night Lords. All three are extremely tragic. Another fun thing if you picked up on it, The majority of the Thousand Suns are now dust that is sealed in their armor and are mindless(I think it was every Marine that is not a Psyker). This was caused by a guy name Ahriman who was trying to prevent the legion from mutating because of a gene seed defect. Ahriman at first thought he did a good job but was banished by Magnus and is now trying to find a way to reverse his spell or give the marines their consciousness back
Just to make it clear... What he says about Space Wolves being able to eat their enemies to learn things? Yeah, all space marines actually have that ability.
Yeah, Bricky did a pretty poor job of selling the Nightlords. There's a lot that makes Konrad Curze to be a tragic villain and overall great character that he skipped for brevity.
the Blood Angels are the first space marines that i know when i watched a gameplay of Dawn of War 3. The Blood Angels, Salmanders and the Space Wolves are my favourite space marines
Those are Blood Ravens from the games. Blood Ravens were specifically made for Relic to have their own chapter to do what they wished with. Canonically, the Blood Ravens are completely unrelated to the Blood Angels, the only similarities are the name and similar colors.
This might help clear up which Legion is on which side: Loyalist: - Dark Angels - Imperial Fists - Space Wolves - Salamanders - Ultramarines - Blood Angels - Iron Hands - White Scars - Raven Guard Heretic: - Emperors Children - Iron Warriors - Black Legion - Death Guard - World Eaters - Night Lords - Word Bearers - Thousand Sons - Alpha Legion (maybe)
The only one here that was a bit false was Word Bearers(17th Legion). They aren't really religious. It's more that they understand how their universe operates and knows which natural laws to ben for their advantage. They are the scientists of the Legions. If you could imagine gravity having a personality and by performing rituals, you could influence it in ways normal means wouldn't; Then you understand the Word Bearers relation to the chaos gods.
Ah, what a fun reaction! Im glad someone else likes Alpha Legion too! Salamanders are one of my big faves, Thousand Sons are very neat too bc I really like Tzeentch haah! Also... for games in need new additions.. maybe you could react to Sly Cooper stuff, especially the first three games! Its been years since the fourth game and Im getting desperate :"D
The intro brick did was truly hilarious, go shaker cup. Incredible video as always. Keep being awesome. Bethany is a super heratic, because bethany is truly super.
So the Primarchs of the Alpha Legion, Alpharius and Omegon were shown two possible futures during the early days of the heresy. Either "Horus wins, and Chaos triumphs, a terrible prospect, but likely. He will secretly hate himself for the atrocities committed in his name, If he wins, his fury will accelerate, along with his self-loathing. He will immolate the human species inside two or three generations. The self-destructive, redemptive urge in Horus will drive him to exterminate mankind in shame. Even his closest allies will war against him in Final Armageddon. Chaos will burn brighter than ever before, and then will be extinguished. It's greatest victory will flare, and then gutter, as the dying imperium takes it to it's grave. The galaxy will be spared through the sacrifice of the human race." And the alternative: "If the Emperor wins, stagnation will seize the Imperium. It will seek to perpetuate itself, over and again, across thousands of years. But it will decay, slowly and surely. It will decay, and gradually allow Chaos to seep back in and consume it." They replied with "I stand for the Emperor, in all things, I am loyal to him. And I cannot break that bond, He has many great ambitions and the noblest of intentions. But I know that above all else, He is determined to stand firm against the Rise of Chaos. He has always known the truth of it. The overthrow of Chaos is his greatest wish, So what I do. I will do for the Emperor" Before firing upon friendly imperial ships and cutting communication from the imperium. This would imply that they remained loyal by joining chaos, but this was 10,000 years prior to the current timeline and Horus is already dead but the Alpha Legion are the masters of lies and trickery. So who knows what their real intentions are at this point. They could be Heretics or Loyalists in Disguise.
The blood angels are definitely my favorite founding chapter, there's something very interesting about the duality of their nobility and beauty against the darkness in their literal blood. And Sanguinius is one of the few truly good primarchs, who wanted simply what was best for his sons and the people of Baal.
Touching grass is an internet expression for someone going outside from spending so much time on the computer/internet. Basically used as an insult, to tell nerds on the internet to go touch some grass!
The interesting thing abiut te death guard and the world eaters is that they werent the first pick for the gods they worship. Indeed, they are khorne and nurgle making do with what they could get. Before they fell to the gods, nurgle actually wanted the iron warriors, and khorne was going after the boood angels. Khorne was thwarted by a single blood angel that was an important tipping point in the corruption of the blood angels, and the gifts of nurgle was outright fucking refused by perterabo himself.
If you like Emperor's Children - you should check "Rylanor's Last Stand" - the story of an Emperor's Children member that despite everything stay loyal and waited millennia to enact his righteous revenge.
lol "touching grass". gamers who don't go outside, well, don't go outside. so 'touching grass' just means getting off you're computer and not ordering delivery
Mate the Night Lords aren't that much of a pushover... Yeah they might start with terror and fear, but that bolt into your belly is still about to explode in one second
Games Workshop decide to let the Player of Warhammer 40K choose their own Legions so this is why they erased Legion 2 & 11 from the History so everyone can build their own Legion and Claim them as Legion 2 or 11!
i may hate and dispise Night Lords with all my heart..... ^^ but bringing one of their own ships into orbit, opening the airlocks and throwing out the flayed bodies of its crew upon the defiant population is a Chad move. Their moral broke, before their guard did.
One important thing to understand why Lion is the way he is is the fact that he grew up in a world full of chaos mutated monsters having to survive completely alone for decades until he finally saw a human for the first time. This left sequels in his personality, paranoia, great difficulty in understanding the emotions or motivations of others even in simple contexts, etc... The Blood Angels try to be optimistic about their curses, trying to use that rage against the enemies of the empire, appearing more to the common people and avoiding arrogance because they know that they are far from perfect. His chapter lord, Dante, is the oldest loyal marine, not dreadnought, he has been chapter lord for over a thousand years and who knows how old he was when he reached that position. He is currently the second most powerful and responsible person in the Empire as regent of the Nihilus Empire. The Alpha Legion trick is kind of boring for me because when everything is a lie nothing is true, when everyone is Alpharius no one is Alpharius.
the thing about the 2nd and llth legion was that something so bad happened that all information on their primarchs and legion were scrubbed from all records.
Everyone thinks that the Alpha Legion is a traitor chapter but no one is completely sure of that, there are many theories that they joined the chaos only to sabotage it from within and that they really are completely loyal to the emperor. And in case you're wondering, Bricky skipped the 2nd and 11th legions because both legions were destroyed and wiped from the empire's archives. And finally, a little summary of which Legion is loyal and which is not. 1st - Dark Angels / Loyalists. (We think) 2nd - Deleted from existence. 3rd - Emperor's Children / Traitors. 4th - Iron Warriors / Traitors. 5th - White Scars / Loyalists. 6th - Space Wolves / Loyalists. 7th - Imperial Fists / Loyalists. 8th - Night Lords / Traitors. 9th - Blood Angels / Loyalists. 10th - Iron Hands / Loyalists. 11th - Deleted from existence. 12th - World Eaters / Traitors. 13th - Ultramarines / Loyalists. 14th - Death Guard / Traitors. 15th - Thousand Sons / Traitors. 16th - Sons of Horus - Black Legion / Traitors. 17th - Word Bearers / Traitors. 18th - Salamanders / Loyalists. 19th - Raven Guard / Loyalists. 20th - Alpha Legion / Traitors (We think)
The Alpha legion are the most absurdly devious legion, enacting plans that are overly complex and convoluted even when a straightforward method would be easier. These guys when conquering a planet had the opportunity to capture the capitol with the element of suprise, instead they gave them forewarning and a month to fortify there capitol then conquered it in less than 2 weeks with almost no losses just to make a point of how sneaky they were.
The thing about the Alpha Legion is we dont really know for sure if they are heretics. They have fought the loyalist but also helped them at times. No one is sure what they are planning
Touching grass is a popular, relativaly recent internet term thats used to describe going outside and getting off the internet. For example, "That tweet you made is aweful. Go outside and touch some grass."
Chaos legions and Loyalist legions. Then the black templars who hold the God emperor as the living God made flesh. Even being loyal doesn't really mean good by our definition. It means loyal to the empire of man, not we are the good guys. I highly recommened you watch the warhammer+ videos, they are so well done and only about 15min each.
virgin imperial fists: nOOooooOoOo you are supposed to be sieging us your traitor astarte and chaos guardsman! chad iron warriors: haha demon engines go BRRRRR
The problem with people siding with Chaos because "The Imperium is evil," don't really consider that Chaos is objectively worse. Chaos is every dark desire brought to the forefront and amplified. Is the Imperium bad? By our standards, certainly. By the standards of 40K though, the Imperium is an absolute necessity. They are, objectively the good guys of 40K and I don't mean that ironically. The Imperium were dealt a shit hand and are doing the best that can be done.
I think it’s because chaos is evil and accepts that it is evil. The imperium is bad but comes off as trying to be good. And while it might be the lesser of the two evils, it’s one of those, humanity should know better and we expect more from them because we know the good (and bad) humanity is capable of. Orks are really our favorite faction though 🤗 we enjoy the humor they bring to 40k in addition to the requisite horror 😝
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Chaos also pretends to be good, it tends to sucker people into believing it till they get to the point that they're either too corrupted to care or too deep to be able to back out. The Imperium is a political hellscape to us but it's the sole bastion of mankind. Without the Imperium, mankind will fall. Compared to the annihilation of the human race, either as food, target practise or sacrifices to Emperor knows what, the Imperium is by virtue of nothing else existing to keep mankind as a whole safe, it is the better choice.
Let's overall it: 1 Dark Angels - knights 2 Children of Emperor - knights 2 3 Iron Warriors - greecs( mostly spartans) 4 White Scars - mongols 5 Space Wolfes - vikings 6 Imperial Fists - russians 7 Night Lords - if Batman and Jocker had a son, he would be Konrad 8 Blood Angels - gay vampires 9 Iron Hands - greec mechanicus
When Bricky said that the Salamamders are the most Civilian-minded and kindest space marines: He wasn't joking. One time when working with the sub-chapter Marines Malevolent, Salamander Chapter Master Tu'Shan got into a fight with the MM captain because the sodding bastard blew up a hosptial full of civilians. The reason they falssly offered was that "It could have had Heretics," when I think they just like killing civilians. Needless to say, Tu'Shan beat a lesson into him and scared a lesson into the MM Astartes around them: NO CIVILIANS EVER, or Tu'Shan will forge you into a memorial plaque for their grave. That's a long way to say they care deeply for civilians; probably because Best Primarch Vulkan is among the most caring and empathic of the primarchs. If there's any other legions fighting with them, they'll run support and escort civilians out of the line of fire when they're not roasting Xenos on an open fire, guard supply lines, repair armor because they are all amazing blacksmiths, and are protective and supoortive of the Guardsmen regiments they fight alongside. Plus, best Serf and servant care in the Imperium: good food, comfortable living quarters, good healthcare, nice retirement and severance packages, and all that. The only real downside is the looks. Like, I'm not trying to be racists, but the Salamanders all literally look like they were burnt to a literal crisp with actual Charcoal black skin and burning ruby red eyes; almost demonic. Even then, you get cool locks of silvery blonde hair if you're lucky. There's also the initiation rituals, which has me thinking about the worrying levels of Pyrophilia on display. Still, if I had to choose a legion to join, I'd join these guys in a heartbeat. By the way, I recommend reacting to the Warhammer TTS series by Bruva Alfabusa. It gets you caught up on the basics of the Warhammer 40k lore, it's ridiculously hilarious, and it has many people still kinda making side content for it like Eliaphas. The Podcast show, Vox Logs, Bro-Trips, and the main show are also all intertwined.
To clarify the jokes about the 2nd and 11th legion. They are referred to as the lost legions and there is no complete explanation to what happened to them, only that all records about them are gone. And asking about said legion is a quick way to be deleted from history. Another thing to note is that the World Eaters and Night Lords share much similarities in the lore, Both legions' primarchs were driven insane before being found by the emperor (In Angron's case he had already been implanted with the butcher's nails. And in Konrad Curze case he was constantly given visions about the future from the chaos gods) Thus tragically, the moment the legions found their fathers, they were doomed. Konrad Curze is actually one of the more tragic characters in wh40k because he is the embodiment of the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Starting out with trying to save as many people as possible, only to turn into more and more extreme methods until he would flay thousands to save millions. Oh and if you’re wondering where “I wish to pet this creature” comes from it is from “If the emperor had a text to speech device” by Bruva Alfabusa
That is a series we need to check out for sure. Had it recommended but was told to wait until we get some more knowledge on 40k to get some of the jokes 🙂
The reason people love Konrad Curze of the Night Lords is because he is essentially space Batman, however he has the law view of Judge Dredd where there is only good and bad with no grey area, and the punishment personality of The Punisher. Konrad was never adopted like the other Primarchs and grew up on the street of essentially Gotham on steroids where everyone was a criminal. As he grew he was called the Night Haunter and he brought his planet into a law abiding planet by torturing and killing those that broke the law and basically said if you break the law your next. He also would televise his tortures and made it illegal for the people not to watch thus scaring them straight. The main issue was that he had no grey area in his judgement. A mom who stole a loaf of bread was just as guilty and punished the same as a serial killer. Also he could see the future but mainly it was the worst futures and anybody he met he would see their death which made him more and more crazy. He was a tortured soul and really wanted nothing more than to die and wanted his brothers to kill him because he felt he had become what he had always hated and fought and as such deserved nothing more than the death he had punished so many others with. He is one of the few Primarchs that died in which he knew how he was gunna die and allowed an Imperial assassin to find him and kill him without a fight to prove all his visions had always been true. No one had believed him, like when he met Fulgrim (Emperors Children) he saw a large snake, which is what he turned into under Slaanesh. The reason people love him so much is because of all the Primarchs he is one of the most interesting and nuts. Also after he realized that his planet had gone back to crime after he left it, he flew back to the planet and destroyed it as punishment.
Also almost every Primarch hated him and his way of war because of all the torture calling it inhumane and having no honor. He disagreed with them because he would torture tens of thousands to bring a world into compliance, while the “honorable” Primarchs would kill tens of MILLIONS of people on battlefields. So he claimed with his method less people died.
Always fun to watch a Bricky video. I'm always a fan of you two watching his videos. For gaming, his Frostpunk (and the DLC for Frostpunk), as well as his C&C (command and conquer) videos are wonderful deep-dives into some of his favorite games. Just an idea. :)
"Touching grass" means to literally go outside and to touch grass as you have been on the computer too long or in your own delusions for too long. Basically, it means to calm down and go back to reality for a bit. It is used often when the dregs of the internet become too outspoken and apparent.
It's a shame the actual Table-Top game has passed me by (it's just too complicated now in my opinion), but I do love the lore. My first faction was the Alpha Legion and I always wanted a special rule for them where they would "Sow Discord", giving a chance for an enemy unit to do nothing for turn, i.e. couldn't move or shoot.
You guys should watch Platinum Wow's videos called "Everything you NEED to know about Dragons in Warcraft" and "Wow's STUPIDEST Dragon". They are incredibly entertaining and informative videos that adds a lot of context to the Dragonflight WOW trailer you saw a while back.
Honestly, as much as I find these two legions boring as fuck, emps probably would have not only successfully conquered the galaxy but done it in record time if he had just made the Imperial Fists and Ultramarine legions and pumped all of the resources from the 20 legions instead into just those two.
Space Wolves main here, so cool thing, the Space Wolves don't give even the slightest of fucks. A while ago a legion of Chaos Cultists with some Khornate Chaos Marines attacked a planet called Armageddon, and the Space Wolves helped fight the attacking force along with Armageddon's Human fighting force. The Grey Knights (A secret space marine chapter that specializes in fighting chaos and chaos demons) along with the Imperial equivalent of the CIA/Gestapo called the Inquisition swung by to help fight the demons off. The day is saved! Huzzah! Now, however, the Inquisition and Grey Knights needed to quell any and all mention of the Cultists and Demons, so they decide that the people of Armageddon must die to keep the enemy a mystery. Can't let anyone not already in the know know about Chaos! The Space Wolves vehemently disagreed. So what happened was that the Space Wolves put their Cruisers and Ships AROUND the fleeing cruisers that contained Armageddon's people so that the Inquisition and Grey Knights couldn't fire without attacking their brother Space Marine Chapter. Grimnar (Space Wolf Chapter Master of the Space Wolves) ordered his soldiers to not fire back, so many argue that the Space Wolves had a further moral high ground. And they just continued to cause problems for the Inquisition especially by just continually giving the finger at every opportunity they could. Understand the Inquisition is pretty much, politically speaking, invincible, they can do pretty much anything they want as long as they say it was in service of the Emperor. So they often are just used to getting their way, essentially. But the Space Wolves are pretty much one of or the most anti-authoritarian and idiosyncratic who do whatever they feel is right. So I guess; Tl;dr version is Space Wolves and Inquisition had some beef, Space Wolves kept humiliating the Inquisition and now the history of the Inquisition is now marred by a period of time called The Months of Shame when an army of Werewolf Space Vikings kept the Gestapo in a metaphorical headlock and promised the Grey Knights that they were next.
Pls look at the trailers for Paraworld, maybe then there will be some sort of a sequel ^^' It has dinosaurs, it has warriors, it has portals and you will probably never hear of it ever again. It's pretty much forgotten if ever really known tbh. But the Cinematic opening is really awesome though
"I am Alpharius, this is a lie." - Alpharius pretending to be Omegon pretending to be Alpharius to honor his brother Alpharius who was actually Omegon pretending to be Alpharius
I love the fact that this is canon
@@abridgedbog7753 OR IS IT??!!
@@abridgedbog7753 Rogal Dorn after the battle of pluto leans over to a Huscarl and whispers, "I am Alpharius."
He then keeps walking like nothing happened.
The fact that is in Alpharius’ book always astounds me
Nice try Alpharius
The thing about the Alpha Legion is that when Bricky said 'we think' they're Chaos, he's not kidding. They're destabilisation specialists, and Chaos kinda SHOULD HAVE WON by now. There's a school of thought that says the Alpha Legion infiltrated Chaos itself, and are helping preserve the Imperium by very carefully messing with Chaos' plans.
I could have sworn he mentioned this in the video but I guess I was wrong. But yeah I remember someone saying something that there's a possibility that the legion is split between being loyal to the emperor and to chaos at the same time which in a funny way still makes what you said line up lmao.
That’s very cool theory. Makes us like them even more 😀 They seemed fascinating from this video and it seems like initial assessment was right 🙂
Alpha legion play the smartest, and least "fair" of all the legions. a squad of 10 once took down an entire (HEAVILY populated and industrialized) star system.... they hijacked a bunch of random farm workers, injected them with a custom made fungus, and let them go. no ransom, no nothing. in a manner of months, the fungus has spread into the water supply and completely WIPED OUT the agri-world that supplied the other worlds in the system. by the end of the year food riots, governmental collapse, and civil war (financed and supported by the alpha legion) was system wide and the legion itself NEVER FIRED A SHOT.
If by “school of thought” you mean “it’s directly mentioned in their one Horus Heresy book that they got,” then yes
@@jordinagel1184 So it is canon that they're just playing Chaos? And if so, does that mean Tzeentch knows this and thinks its funny as hell
Funny thing about Lorgar: He's still alive, but hasn't been seen since the Horus Heresy because Corvus Corax has been waiting outside his front door to kill him for 10,000 years
That’s a long time to be hiding out 😳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames let’s not forgot corvus turned himself into a (non chaos) demon to absolutely ruin lorgar
@@ggavalon5803 I think more accurate would be to call him a warp powered elemental superprimarch.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yeah, Corvus took the Heresy shitshow *_very_* personally.
Well, all this shitstorm of heresy was HIS! DAMN! FAULT!!!
"Touching grass" is a popular meme for going outside. So no he didn't mention it because he smoked weed XD
Haha, 🤗 it was a shot in the dark 😛
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames It's what you tell someone who's terminally online.
There is no legion 2 or 11 that’s the weird clipped parts
The NightLords are Bricky's favorite faction because how interesting the story is between Primarch Konrad Kurs and his Legion.
Yeah Konrad's story is really sad. For example he has a gift that allows him to see the future but his brothers just shrugged it off when he tries to warn them because the feel uncomfortable around him.
That, and he also became the Night Haunter to liberate his people in a twisted way. He committed all those atrocities against the crime lords and gang leaders to scare everyone into submission and rid Nostramo of violence. But once he left, crime picked back up, and his legion was repopulated by the worst scum of humanity. He even allowed himself to be killed once he realized he had turned into the very thing he sought to destroy.
I think Cruse went mad because the Emperor constantly had him saying
'I'm Winged Mammal Man'
He's also really likes the salamanders so it balances out
Good to know. A story we will have to look into 🙂
Man I love the fact that the Alpha legion druged a world that had a ton of psychers with a hallucinating gas that made all the psychers in the world to have the same dream in which rains snakes, but then the collective consciousness of the sleeping psychers materialized the snakes into reality and killed like half of the world population in a day.
What a fucking chad move
That’s brutal. But awesome 😈
Snakes On A Plane Of Existence
@@doctorsnakeeater1997 I value you as a person.
I love the Blood Angels, because their primarch was the closest thing they had (besides Vulcan of course) to a truly good Primarch, who looked at their marines - outcasts that were shunned by the rest of the imperium because of how brutal they were on the battlefield, - and knelt before them himself, because he felt that he was the one who needed to prove his worth to these warriors who bled for a thankless galaxy.
And when he died, they lost the ONE person in the world who truly cared for them and saw them as more than monsters, and they fucking slaughtered every heretic and demon in their way while under the effects of the Black Rage, pushing a large portion of the invading heretic faction during the Horus Heresy back.
I would HIGHLY recommend either MajorKill's video on the Blood Angels/Sanguinius, or Oculus Imperia's video on the Blood Angel's history. They're both fantastic.
For Sanguinius.
Thanks for the video recommendations on Blood Angels 🙂
FOR SANGUINIUS!
They also gave me my favorite chapter of all time. My Beloved Lamenters
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT! I love the Iron warriors so much. Something Bricky didn't really expand on about them is even though they're a "traitor legion" they aren't really followers of chaos, more like an employee that hates their boss/company and left for a better job. As he mentioned, instead of worshipping the dark gods, they essentially use them as a tool. They dislike chaos enough that, when demonic mutations begin on a marine, they amputate the mutation and replace it with machinery. At the current point in time they could be considered one of the most powerful of the traitor legions, as they are one of the most unified traitor legions left.
I'm not fan of their style, but I have to admit they have one of the most interesting story among the chaos space marines
It's my belief that Perturabo's goal is to destroy the four chaos Gods, or at least to shatter them and imprison or destroy as many fragments as possible.
Haha like the explanation of being disgruntled employees basically 🙂 we’ve all been there 😅🤗
So, they exchanged one bad boss for another.
They're not great at reading contracts, are they? X)
Yep
I was always Orkz fanboy but if there is a Space Marine Legion I love it is Iron Warriors, tough I love that siege extreme industrial vibe of " we need more ammo, turn another planet to toxic dump"
So Bricky skips over the 2nd and 11th legions because in the official lore, those primarchs and their legions vanished without a trace and all records of them have disappeared. It basically gives players the freedom to just paint their Marines our own choice of colours and create our own lore for them, and have them still be canon (or at least canon-adjacent).
well, not really. it is more that they have been forgotten on purpose due to whatever horrible thing they did. it is very much said multiple times in a lot of the novels that even the primarchs are not allowed to talk about them. it is just unknown what they did to make them suffer that punishment. theories goes from them having a very bad genetic flaw, too they turned on the emperor himself.
That’s cool that they have lore reasons and tabletop reasons for having no official 2nd and 11th legion. 🙂
Actually it's implied that Russ and the Space Wolves killed most of the Legion and The Primarchs and the rest were absorbed into the Ultramarines
@@sakrefunholy So IIRC the thing about both legions is that everything about why they were forgotten, and what happened to them is not talked about. All data was purged, no one was allowed to speak about it, those who knew either had to die, had to swear on their death to never tell, or had their memories or ability to recall it removed.
While this implies some sort of vile act even more horible than what Horus did (and let's not forget: He mortally wounded the Emperor after turning 8 other legions against him!) it might also be a safeguard for said legions, in order to aid them in some sort of long-term plan.
It's the ABSENSE of ANY kind of information about them that's so remarkable.
My fanon for the 2nd Legion is that they're all squats :)
Lion El'Jonson of the Dark Angels and Leman Russ of the Space Wolves actually had a rivalry during the great crusade. It culminated in them having a fist fight with each other which lasted more than 24 hours. Eventually Jonson knocked Leman out with a sucker punch because Leman Russ started laughing at how stupid it was that they were fighting each other. Despite this rivalry they both deeply respected each other and their legions. Lion El'Jonson actually discovered the Wolfen Curse (space wolves turning into werewolves) that plagued Leman's legion, but out of respect for Leman he kept it secret and never told anyone else.
That’s always cool when respect comes from a heated rivalry 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames When Dark Angels and Space Wolves meet, each group chooses a champion, then the two champions re-enact the duel of their Primarchs by beating the crap out of each other for fun (and honour, don't forget the honour)
The Lion? Keeping Secrets? Say it ain't so!
*mumbles "Loyalty is it's own reward."
You didn't see me
Typhus is technically supposed to be Mortarion's second-in-command but the two of them absolutely DESPISE each other. Mortarion hates Typhus because he was directly responsible for the Death Guard's fall to Nurgle and Typhus hates Mortarion because he rejected Nurgle's gifts at first.
"...Nurgle's gifts..."
no thanks xD
Jaghatai Khan to Mortarion when they duelled on Terra:
- _"I wanted to fight the Legion's master. Where is Typhus?"_
The Khan is a roast god. 😎
@@Archon3960 that one burnt harder than a fever from Nurgle....
@@Archon3960 even the Salamanders were jealous of that heat
Not to mention Typhus was a Psyker and Mortarion HATES Psykers. Gives me strong Angron and Kharn vibes.
I'm not sure you heard it during the Alpha Legion Part, but No One actually knows whether they're actually Loyalists or Traitors.
Basically, the Twin Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon were separated, one raised by the Emperor (theory is that one of these two was the first Primarch that the Emperor met, and personally raised.) while the other twin was the last Primarch found. and when the Horus Heresy started, They both understood that Chaos was bad and that they had to take it down for the Emperor, so they did it in the way they do things, infiltration. They joined the Traitors.
the issue afterwards was then what their goal was. one believed that Chaos had to win the Heresy, reasoning that Chaos would basically burn themselves out because that twin believed that the Emperor's goal was to destroy Chaos, while the other twin wanted to simply just keep sabotaging the Traitors and Chaos because that other twin believed that the Emperor's goal was to free Humanity from Chaos. but during the Heresy, one of the twins died, supposedly the one named Alpharius, but it could have also been Omegon pretending to be Alpharius, or it could have been neither. None of the other Primarchs even knew that they were Twins! they only knew that the Primarch of the Alpha Legion was named Alpharius.
and none of this is 100% confirmed. so no one knows who's alive, which twin is which, and what''s their ultimate goal! who knows!? not even Alpha Legion knows.
Nobody knows if they are Chaos specifically, but everyone knows that they are not loyal, lmao.
@@steelbear2063 There are loyalist Alpha Legion in lore, like one who works for Inquisitor Eisenhorn in Bequin series.
Great thing about 20th legion is that you can use them as traitors or loyalista in table top.
Alpha Legion is so damn cool and interesting 🤩😀
I don't remember if it's actually canon or just a theory but supposedly Alpha Legion is split into two factions. One is loyalist and helps The Empire where they can but in a way that they usually still seem traitor. The other faction is actually traitor.
This does make sense as during Horus Heresy most of them, lead by Alpharius, were truly traitor. Smaller part of them, led by Omegon, went kinda rogue and sneakily sabotaged traitor efforts were they could..
Sanguinius, even Horus said he would not like to fight him in anger, Sanguinius lost not because he was outmatched, but because he was exhausted from 3 days of constant fighting, from single-handedly holding one of the gates of the Palace.
The Thousand Sons Traitor only because Russ didn't check who gave him the Kill command.
'Everything I do from this point I do for the Imperium'
Alpharius? moments before his 'Fall'
It’s not that Russ didn’t verify the command. It’s that it came from Horus, who the emperor had appointed Warmaster before Horus was corrupted.
@@thomash341 true, but he didn't check with Daddy, surly the command to wipe out a legion should only come from the head guy and not the No 2, Russ hated Magnus and this gave him an excuse.
@@stevencavanagh7990
He was more than number two though. The emperor removed himself from the crusade and left matters of war to Horus. If Leman had to double check with the emperor, then Horus never would’ve been Warmaster to begin with. Granted, I’m sure Leman to some degree took the situation as a chance to roll Magnus but I don’t think Leman would’ve outright killed him unless he got the green light which he did in this case.
Or...
There's a theory that Sanguinius beat Horus but succumbed to the Black Rage and Big E. had to put him down and covered up the truth.
But that's just a theory... x)
@@stevencavanagh7990 Honestly, Leman Russ should’ve figured something was up when Magnus didn’t give his men an order to defend prospero, but once Magnus realized Leman was trying to kill all of them, he was totally warranted in everything he did to get revenge in the wolves afterwards, including the destruction of the successor program on Fenris.
The Space Wolves are noted for having the oldest living (dreadnaught entombed) space marine in 40k. Bjorn the Felhanded, he stood at the side of Leman Russ during the Great Crusade and took the helm of leadership when Leman disappeared into the Warp. This man is so venerated by those who see him, he was able to convince the Inquisition to stand down from unjustly persecuting the Wolves after the First War of Armageddon.
For anyone that doesn't know, the 2nd and 11th legions are referred to as "the forgotten and the purged" it is known only that the missing primarchs and their Legions are listed as having been "deleted from Imperial records.". Also, real talk: Roboute Guilliman is the most English, Englishman in a universe full of Englishmen. :P
Thanks for explaining that 🙂
wrong. Guilliman is meant to evoke the proverbial "last of the romans".
Dorn is the one modeled to be the quintessential english gentleman: stoic to a fault, zero sense of humor, honorable beyond reproach
Salamanders and the grey Knights meeting after a daemon incursion would be an interesting interaction
The saying, "Magnus did nothing wrong" is technically true. He was told to do nothing, and he did that wrong.
The best way I've seen someone describe the Alpha Legion is that one part is loyal, another part is traitor, another is loyal but in reality they are spies for Chaos, another is traitor but in reality a spy for the Imperium, another part doesn't know who fights for so they attack everyone, another is a spying on their own legion and another who in reality isn't fighting for everyone.
🤯 yup, that helped explain it 😜
Also love the profile name 😂
Vulkan and Konrad are two of the most interesting Primarchs, literally two sides of the same coin. Konrad saw the Emperor as a liar, a coward unwilling to face the consequences and machinations of his crusade to unify humanity, Vulkan knew the Emperor's dream could not last as a lie but was necessary at the time to keep humanity safe.
Needless to say when they met for the last time it was.... a mess.
Loyalist:
Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Iron Hands, Dark Angels???, Ultramarines, White Scars, Raven Guard, Salamanders
Heretics:
Emperor's Children, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, World Eaters, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Black Legion, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion???,
The 2nd and 11th legion exist for people to make their own custom chapters of space marine, and are thus never named.
"Touching Grass" is a euphemism for "go outside and interact with actual real people".
Oh it's Bricky. I'm a mod for him and their play group on the Dice Check channel. Always good to see one of the crew's work being reacted to. Looking forward to future reactions.
Is that a like a dnd channel or what?
@@caderiddle5996 war hammer channel.
@@caderiddle5996 Dice Check does 40k battle reports so you can watch Bricky and the rest of the gang playing matches with their actual armies
@@sanctamachina thanks for the info.
Nice! Brickys videos we’ve seen are always informative and entertaining. Maybe one day we will check him out in action playing 40k 🙂
To show you how dedicated Rogul Dorn was, him, Jaghatai Kahn and Sanguinis were the only three primarchs defending Holy Terra (Earth) from horus and his legions
try helsreach fan movie, it's faithful adaptation of the helsreach book
Yes such a great series of videos
@@92chrissim plus they can either choose to watch the 2 hrs video, or watch it part by part
We do plan to eventually check that out 😅
I'd love for them to watch and react to Helsreach!!
Of course it would have to be over a couple of episodes due to how long it is. But everyone who gets into the 40k universe should watch this.
100% especially now they know who the Salamanders are.
Yup. Plan to check it out at some point 😅
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Oooh can't wait. You will love it!
Every heretic is gangster until they hear a blood angel whos lost to black rage yell "for the emperor"
It should be noted for most of the Traitors legions whose home worlds have been blown up it was the Lion and the Dark Angels who did the planet destroying except for the Thousand sons(the space wolves did it) and the Night Lords(the night lords blew there own planet up) but the others where the Dark Angels and rhe lion going a a Vengemce tour.
Fun fact the Raven Guard are actually pretty nice people like the Salamanders. Their primarch Corvas Corax came from a world that he helped liberate from horrible oppressive slavery and loved making tyrannical crap hole worlds be overthrown and made better imperial worlds. As long as they serve the emperor then the Ravenguard are more then happy to help rebellions against bad planetary governors to replace them with worthwhile ones, after all it makes the empire better in the end and means no actual traitorous rebellion down the line.
I find it funny that sometimes people are fully introduced to warhammer 40k's lore due to the fact how nice and respectful the supposed lore masters like Bricky are to those noobs.
Something that Bricky didn't have time to go into because of the video format is that pretty much all of the heretic legions (maybe except alpha legion) are very sympathetic up to a point (It is 40k after all, there are no good guys, ehh salamanders are closest in marines). Anyway, they're sympathetic in that most of the reasons they fell are very human failings that could have been overcome if the Emperor had actually been a good dad and paid attention to his sons more instead of treating them like tools. Basically, the vast majority of this is the emperor's fault.
We are on board with blaming the emperor 😏
"Night Lords are little bit evil"
Yeah
Just a tiny bit
He's not lying when Gilliman really wants to die. He is so depressed that when he finally reunited with his father after seeing what has become of him. His father offered no kind of comfort he just referred to him as the 13th has returned. And in his mind he believes that the emperor does not care one iota about him.
To some extent that is true but the emperor does on some level does care about his sons. The reason why he has received no comfort is because the emperor's mind is completely shattered. And Gilliman misinterpreted what happened.
But it's an understatement that he is very very depressed and is very trying to hold this empire together. He is trying so hard to get it back on track and it is difficult.
The world of 40k would be an easy one to become extremely depressed in 😢😨
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah well imagine you have been fighting a war for thousands of years to try to reunify the Galaxy. To create a safe space for Humanity to thrive to rebuild the Golden Age of humanity. You trying to get people to build to get supply lines going and trying to get the. Adeptus mechanic is to invent something and know how something works instead of just keeping replicating things. And don't know how they work you have to understand the great crusade was coming to an end and things were getting back on track. Things were not that bad there were no religious zealots the emperor kept telling people to don't worship him as a god.
They were actually normal people sure there were a few slaves here and there but. It wasn't very bad The Hive cities were actually making a comeback and turning into actual regular cities. And actually paying the citizens things were looking up the Eldar were kept at Bay.
There were no necrons no tyranids the orcs were pounded almost to Oblivion things were going good. And it was only going to get better since the emperor was going to give Humanity The ultimate gift. Access to the web way now what's special about this is they would no longer have to use the warp for travel.
No longer would they be going through the warp to feed the chaos gods they would. starve to death and they would eventually disappear. And citizens were going to be moved into the web way.
And it speculated that the emperor plan to get rid of the Dark Eldar completely eradicating them. And turning the dark city of the Eldar into a paradise and it's very possible he could have done it.
The plan was to have Magnus sit The Golden throne and power the web way. That would be his ultimate sacrifice the ban on psykers would have been removed and Magnus could sit on The Golden throne.
And then the emperor would have made one last campaign against. The Dark Eldar settle it with humans and the chaos Gods would have been starved to death over a course of a few millennia.
Eventually the Space Marines would have been decommissioned possibly killed like the thunder warriors or. Be redistributed as some kind of politicians probably because that was the idea Gilliman had.
For his legion he wanted his legion to be educated because. He wanted the Space Marines after all the fighting was done to be politicians statesman leaders. Future governors of planets he wanted them to be educated and sophisticated not just these battle-hardened warriors.
Because eventually The crusade was going to be over and things were just going to be looking up. There was no religion of the imperium things were looking good.
And then Horus had to lose his mind and start the heresy. And then everything after that fell into. Poop Hive cities became worse Imperial colonies became worse the Imperial cult was established the age of apostasy started. Religion started to be cracked down upon if you didn't believe in the emperor you were shot on sight and this is not what gilliman wanted this is not what he fought for.
He did not fight for a mankind to be superstitious zealots and he hates every single. One of these zealots he hates these people he absolutely wants to kill them. But he knows he can't do that if it was any other son of the emperor if it was lion el Johnson everyone would be dead..
The highlords would be dead he would go crusading against all these. Inquisition freaks he would dismantle the Imperial religion. But Gilman knows he can't undo all this damage by just killing everyone he has to do it over time and it's weighing heavily on his mind.
If it was any other son any other son of the emperor people would be dead people would be dying left and right. They even tried to betray gilliman and have him examined by inquisitors to see if he was the son of the emperor that's how insane this has gotten right there in front of you a son of the emperor has returned but they don't want to believe it because they want to hold on to power.
Can never express how much I love the Salamanders as a Imperium Legion. They are by far what I personally believe to be THE perfect embodiment of humanity in 40K. In lore it's pretty safely clear and stated that Horus or even Sanguinius were the Emperors favorite sons, but I believe Vulkan is the perfect cut picture of what the Emperor wants his Primarchs and Humanity to be due to his unending trust in him and keeping him close by his side.
Yeah the Salamanders seem to be the only “good” people in Warhammer 40k 😇
Touching grass means he went outside and interacted with real people
During Horus heresy, some legions betrayed the Emperor. Simple as.
So, a couple quick explanations (some of which may be stuff you already picked up on, and I apologize in advance):
1) The phrase "touching grass" is an internet culture slang term for going outside, essentially unplugging for a bit. Totally understandable not to get that, as you guys probably "touch grass" a lot more than most of us on YT.
2) The reason for the reference to the 2nd and 11th legions and immediately hopping into the next legion is because, canonically, all knowledge of those legions specifically has been expunged from *every record.* Even the people who "know" don't really know in a weird kinda way.
3) Bricky started off with "Allegiance:" And would state whether they were loyal/loyalist (still with the Imperium) or traitor/heretic (now running with Chaos). Which makes the Alpha Legion even *more* interesting because, while they're heretics at face value, *no one knows* if the Alpha Legion are actually traitors or if they're playing the long con and trying to sabotage Chaos from the inside, sleeper style. People have debated that bit of lore HEAVILY.
Finally, I gotta say, my likes in the legions are remarkably similar to Bethany's. The Alpha Legion's intrigue is awesome and makes you think, the Salamanders are the closest you get to "good guys" in the world of space marines, and the Space Wolves aesthetic is just plain cool!
Thanks for going over some parts in this we didn’t get 🙂
An Interesting fact about the Space Wolves is that they were also kind of the Punishers of the Emperor when they attacked the Thousand Sons they did so on commabd of the Big E himself and the lore heavly implied they are the reason there is no 2nd and 11th Legion
We all are Alpharius.
-Omegon
Thanks for this reaction - there can never be enough bricky warhammer reactions its just fun and interesting to see how people react 🙂
He does a great job explaining this world 😀
I like the Night lords (the blokes that skin people and throw them out the airlock) because they actually were the most effective of the legions in the sense of they killed the least people and left everything intact, by killing a thousand in the most gruesome way they saved the millions that surrendered without a fight.Its also for the same reason that I enjoyed the Jaquin Pheonix Joker movie they all tragic characters that had zero chances of becoming anything but monsters and its fascinating to watch the slow changes unfolding.
That’s actually a clever way (and a sadistic one) to save people. Not as evil as they seem 🤔
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah there was a dracula movie awhile back where Vlad the impaler makes pretty much the same argument that if he hadn't killed the people he had in the horrible way he had they would've fought back and thousands would have died instead.
Okay if you were wondering why Ricky kind of glitched on the second Legion is simply put there is no second Legion the emperor himself has deleted any record of that Primarch and that Legion we don't know why we don't even know their name so there considered a mystery even amongst the most adapt member of the Inquisition. This is also done to the 11th Legion as well
😎👍🙂 was definitely wondering why
Loyalist: Dark Angels, White Scars, Space Wolves, imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Ultramarines, Salamanders, and Raven Guard
Traitor: Emperor’s Children, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, World Eaters, Death Guard, Thousand Suns, Sons of Horus (Black Legion), Word Bearers, and Alpha Legion
Book recommendations: Night Lords trilogy (Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver, Void Stalker) First Heretic (pretty much Lorgar’s heretic origin story), Betrayer (Sequel to First Heretic that focuses on the World Eaters) And Horus Rising. Personally my favorites are the World Eaters, Death Guard and the Night Lords. All three are extremely tragic. Another fun thing if you picked up on it, The majority of the Thousand Suns are now dust that is sealed in their armor and are mindless(I think it was every Marine that is not a Psyker). This was caused by a guy name Ahriman who was trying to prevent the legion from mutating because of a gene seed defect. Ahriman at first thought he did a good job but was banished by Magnus and is now trying to find a way to reverse his spell or give the marines their consciousness back
Just to make it clear...
What he says about Space Wolves being able to eat their enemies to learn things?
Yeah, all space marines actually have that ability.
Yeah, Bricky did a pretty poor job of selling the Nightlords. There's a lot that makes Konrad Curze to be a tragic villain and overall great character that he skipped for brevity.
I hope Vulkan returns to the flame bois soon. The Imperium could use his hugs - assuming he doesn't accidentally snap their spines.
the Blood Angels are the first space marines that i know when i watched a gameplay of Dawn of War 3. The Blood Angels, Salmanders and the Space Wolves are my favourite space marines
Those are Blood Ravens from the games. Blood Ravens were specifically made for Relic to have their own chapter to do what they wished with. Canonically, the Blood Ravens are completely unrelated to the Blood Angels, the only similarities are the name and similar colors.
This might help clear up which Legion is on which side:
Loyalist:
- Dark Angels
- Imperial Fists
- Space Wolves
- Salamanders
- Ultramarines
- Blood Angels
- Iron Hands
- White Scars
- Raven Guard
Heretic:
- Emperors Children
- Iron Warriors
- Black Legion
- Death Guard
- World Eaters
- Night Lords
- Word Bearers
- Thousand Sons
- Alpha Legion (maybe)
The only one here that was a bit false was Word Bearers(17th Legion).
They aren't really religious. It's more that they understand how their universe operates and knows which natural laws to ben for their advantage. They are the scientists of the Legions. If you could imagine gravity having a personality and by performing rituals, you could influence it in ways normal means wouldn't; Then you understand the Word Bearers relation to the chaos gods.
That’s a cool way to put it with gravity having a personality and trying to control it 🙂
Ah, what a fun reaction! Im glad someone else likes Alpha Legion too! Salamanders are one of my big faves, Thousand Sons are very neat too bc I really like Tzeentch haah!
Also... for games in need new additions.. maybe you could react to Sly Cooper stuff, especially the first three games! Its been years since the fourth game and Im getting desperate :"D
That’s a game we don’t know anything about. Thanks for the recommendation. We will try to bring the 5th game here 😇
The Imperial Fists and The Iron Hands are my fav
The intro brick did was truly hilarious, go shaker cup. Incredible video as always. Keep being awesome. Bethany is a super heratic, because bethany is truly super.
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Touching grass in internet terms means going outside 😂 I love bricky thanks guys for checking this video out!
touching grass meant moving out of the house or going outside
it's implying most people are introverts and never go out of their home.
Especially in the last couple of years 😅
So the Primarchs of the Alpha Legion, Alpharius and Omegon were shown two possible futures during the early days of the heresy.
Either
"Horus wins, and Chaos triumphs, a terrible prospect, but likely. He will secretly hate himself for the atrocities committed in his name, If he wins, his fury will accelerate, along with his self-loathing. He will immolate the human species inside two or three generations. The self-destructive, redemptive urge in Horus will drive him to exterminate mankind in shame. Even his closest allies will war against him in Final Armageddon. Chaos will burn brighter than ever before, and then will be extinguished. It's greatest victory will flare, and then gutter, as the dying imperium takes it to it's grave. The galaxy will be spared through the sacrifice of the human race."
And the alternative:
"If the Emperor wins, stagnation will seize the Imperium. It will seek to perpetuate itself, over and again, across thousands of years. But it will decay, slowly and surely. It will decay, and gradually allow Chaos to seep back in and consume it."
They replied with "I stand for the Emperor, in all things, I am loyal to him. And I cannot break that bond, He has many great ambitions and the noblest of intentions. But I know that above all else, He is determined to stand firm against the Rise of Chaos. He has always known the truth of it. The overthrow of Chaos is his greatest wish, So what I do. I will do for the Emperor" Before firing upon friendly imperial ships and cutting communication from the imperium.
This would imply that they remained loyal by joining chaos, but this was 10,000 years prior to the current timeline and Horus is already dead but the Alpha Legion are the masters of lies and trickery. So who knows what their real intentions are at this point. They could be Heretics or Loyalists in Disguise.
"So, we've got the 11th Legion..." Nope. You don't. REDACTED!
The blood angels are definitely my favorite founding chapter, there's something very interesting about the duality of their nobility and beauty against the darkness in their literal blood. And Sanguinius is one of the few truly good primarchs, who wanted simply what was best for his sons and the people of Baal.
The most disturbing part about Thomas the Chaos Engine is that it can actually exist in 40k.
“Touching grass” is Internet speak for “going outside” lol. It’s a joke directed at gamers who never leave their house.
Touching grass is an internet expression for someone going outside from spending so much time on the computer/internet. Basically used as an insult, to tell nerds on the internet to go touch some grass!
Haha, ah okay. Thanks for clearing that up for us 🙂
cannot wait for Warhammer 40,000: Darktide to come out
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SPACE WOLVES!!! Vlka Fenryka!
The interesting thing abiut te death guard and the world eaters is that they werent the first pick for the gods they worship.
Indeed, they are khorne and nurgle making do with what they could get.
Before they fell to the gods, nurgle actually wanted the iron warriors, and khorne was going after the boood angels.
Khorne was thwarted by a single blood angel that was an important tipping point in the corruption of the blood angels, and the gifts of nurgle was outright fucking refused by perterabo himself.
If you like Emperor's Children - you should check "Rylanor's Last Stand" - the story of an Emperor's Children member that despite everything stay loyal and waited millennia to enact his righteous revenge.
his story is amazing!
but i actually love the Thousand Sons the most, when they do/don't do the thing :)
lol "touching grass". gamers who don't go outside, well, don't go outside. so 'touching grass' just means getting off you're computer and not ordering delivery
Ah okay. Thanks for explaining that 🤗
For me it's the following ones in no particular order: Alpha Legion, Salamanders, Emperor's Children, Death Guard and Iron Hands.
Mate the Night Lords aren't that much of a pushover... Yeah they might start with terror and fear, but that bolt into your belly is still about to explode in one second
Games Workshop decide to let the Player of Warhammer 40K choose their own Legions so this is why they erased Legion 2 & 11 from the History so everyone can build their own Legion and Claim them as Legion 2 or 11!
Ah okay. That makes sense 🙂
i may hate and dispise Night Lords with all my heart.....
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but bringing one of their own ships into orbit, opening the airlocks and throwing out the flayed bodies of its crew upon the defiant population is a Chad move.
Their moral broke, before their guard did.
Yeah that’s quite an entrance 😳
One important thing to understand why Lion is the way he is is the fact that he grew up in a world full of chaos mutated monsters having to survive completely alone for decades until he finally saw a human for the first time. This left sequels in his personality, paranoia, great difficulty in understanding the emotions or motivations of others even in simple contexts, etc...
The Blood Angels try to be optimistic about their curses, trying to use that rage against the enemies of the empire, appearing more to the common people and avoiding arrogance because they know that they are far from perfect. His chapter lord, Dante, is the oldest loyal marine, not dreadnought, he has been chapter lord for over a thousand years and who knows how old he was when he reached that position. He is currently the second most powerful and responsible person in the Empire as regent of the Nihilus Empire.
The Alpha Legion trick is kind of boring for me because when everything is a lie nothing is true, when everyone is Alpharius no one is Alpharius.
the thing about the 2nd and llth legion was that something so bad happened that all information on their primarchs and legion were scrubbed from all records.
Everyone thinks that the Alpha Legion is a traitor chapter but no one is completely sure of that, there are many theories that they joined the chaos only to sabotage it from within and that they really are completely loyal to the emperor. And in case you're wondering, Bricky skipped the 2nd and 11th legions because both legions were destroyed and wiped from the empire's archives.
And finally, a little summary of which Legion is loyal and which is not.
1st - Dark Angels / Loyalists. (We think)
2nd - Deleted from existence.
3rd - Emperor's Children / Traitors.
4th - Iron Warriors / Traitors.
5th - White Scars / Loyalists.
6th - Space Wolves / Loyalists.
7th - Imperial Fists / Loyalists.
8th - Night Lords / Traitors.
9th - Blood Angels / Loyalists.
10th - Iron Hands / Loyalists.
11th - Deleted from existence.
12th - World Eaters / Traitors.
13th - Ultramarines / Loyalists.
14th - Death Guard / Traitors.
15th - Thousand Sons / Traitors.
16th - Sons of Horus - Black Legion / Traitors.
17th - Word Bearers / Traitors.
18th - Salamanders / Loyalists.
19th - Raven Guard / Loyalists.
20th - Alpha Legion / Traitors (We think)
The Alpha legion are the most absurdly devious legion, enacting plans that are overly complex and convoluted even when a straightforward method would be easier.
These guys when conquering a planet had the opportunity to capture the capitol with the element of suprise, instead they gave them forewarning and a month to fortify there capitol then conquered it in less than 2 weeks with almost no losses just to make a point of how sneaky they were.
You didn't spot the skip of 2nd and 11th legions. There is a reason behind it.
Spotted the skip and thought there was a reason but it moves so fast we didn’t want to miss anything 😅
The thing about the Alpha Legion is we dont really know for sure if they are heretics. They have fought the loyalist but also helped them at times. No one is sure what they are planning
That’s what makes them so interesting 😀
Touching grass is a popular, relativaly recent internet term thats used to describe going outside and getting off the internet. For example, "That tweet you made is aweful. Go outside and touch some grass."
no touching grass means going outside lmao
Chaos legions and Loyalist legions. Then the black templars who hold the God emperor as the living God made flesh. Even being loyal doesn't really mean good by our definition. It means loyal to the empire of man, not we are the good guys. I highly recommened you watch the warhammer+ videos, they are so well done and only about 15min each.
virgin imperial fists: nOOooooOoOo you are supposed to be sieging us your traitor astarte and chaos guardsman!
chad iron warriors: haha demon engines go BRRRRR
The problem with people siding with Chaos because "The Imperium is evil," don't really consider that Chaos is objectively worse. Chaos is every dark desire brought to the forefront and amplified. Is the Imperium bad? By our standards, certainly. By the standards of 40K though, the Imperium is an absolute necessity. They are, objectively the good guys of 40K and I don't mean that ironically. The Imperium were dealt a shit hand and are doing the best that can be done.
I think it’s because chaos is evil and accepts that it is evil. The imperium is bad but comes off as trying to be good. And while it might be the lesser of the two evils, it’s one of those, humanity should know better and we expect more from them because we know the good (and bad) humanity is capable of. Orks are really our favorite faction though 🤗 we enjoy the humor they bring to 40k in addition to the requisite horror 😝
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Chaos also pretends to be good, it tends to sucker people into believing it till they get to the point that they're either too corrupted to care or too deep to be able to back out.
The Imperium is a political hellscape to us but it's the sole bastion of mankind. Without the Imperium, mankind will fall. Compared to the annihilation of the human race, either as food, target practise or sacrifices to Emperor knows what, the Imperium is by virtue of nothing else existing to keep mankind as a whole safe, it is the better choice.
Let's overall it:
1 Dark Angels - knights
2 Children of Emperor - knights 2
3 Iron Warriors - greecs( mostly spartans)
4 White Scars - mongols
5 Space Wolfes - vikings
6 Imperial Fists - russians
7 Night Lords - if Batman and Jocker had a son, he would be Konrad
8 Blood Angels - gay vampires
9 Iron Hands - greec mechanicus
The world leaders has one of the best chaos Marine ever known as KHARN the Betrayer
When Bricky said that the Salamamders are the most Civilian-minded and kindest space marines: He wasn't joking. One time when working with the sub-chapter Marines Malevolent, Salamander Chapter Master Tu'Shan got into a fight with the MM captain because the sodding bastard blew up a hosptial full of civilians. The reason they falssly offered was that "It could have had Heretics," when I think they just like killing civilians. Needless to say, Tu'Shan beat a lesson into him and scared a lesson into the MM Astartes around them: NO CIVILIANS EVER, or Tu'Shan will forge you into a memorial plaque for their grave.
That's a long way to say they care deeply for civilians; probably because Best Primarch Vulkan is among the most caring and empathic of the primarchs. If there's any other legions fighting with them, they'll run support and escort civilians out of the line of fire when they're not roasting Xenos on an open fire, guard supply lines, repair armor because they are all amazing blacksmiths, and are protective and supoortive of the Guardsmen regiments they fight alongside. Plus, best Serf and servant care in the Imperium: good food, comfortable living quarters, good healthcare, nice retirement and severance packages, and all that.
The only real downside is the looks. Like, I'm not trying to be racists, but the Salamanders all literally look like they were burnt to a literal crisp with actual Charcoal black skin and burning ruby red eyes; almost demonic. Even then, you get cool locks of silvery blonde hair if you're lucky. There's also the initiation rituals, which has me thinking about the worrying levels of Pyrophilia on display. Still, if I had to choose a legion to join, I'd join these guys in a heartbeat.
By the way, I recommend reacting to the Warhammer TTS series by Bruva Alfabusa. It gets you caught up on the basics of the Warhammer 40k lore, it's ridiculously hilarious, and it has many people still kinda making side content for it like Eliaphas. The Podcast show, Vox Logs, Bro-Trips, and the main show are also all intertwined.
To clarify the jokes about the 2nd and 11th legion.
They are referred to as the lost legions and there is no complete explanation to what happened to them, only that all records about them are gone. And asking about said legion is a quick way to be deleted from history.
Another thing to note is that the World Eaters and Night Lords share much similarities in the lore,
Both legions' primarchs were driven insane before being found by the emperor (In Angron's case he had already been implanted with the butcher's nails. And in Konrad Curze case he was constantly given visions about the future from the chaos gods)
Thus tragically, the moment the legions found their fathers, they were doomed.
Konrad Curze is actually one of the more tragic characters in wh40k because he is the embodiment of the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Starting out with trying to save as many people as possible, only to turn into more and more extreme methods until he would flay thousands to save millions.
Oh and if you’re wondering where “I wish to pet this creature” comes from it is from “If the emperor had a text to speech device” by Bruva Alfabusa
That is a series we need to check out for sure. Had it recommended but was told to wait until we get some more knowledge on 40k to get some of the jokes 🙂
The reason people love Konrad Curze of the Night Lords is because he is essentially space Batman, however he has the law view of Judge Dredd where there is only good and bad with no grey area, and the punishment personality of The Punisher.
Konrad was never adopted like the other Primarchs and grew up on the street of essentially Gotham on steroids where everyone was a criminal. As he grew he was called the Night Haunter and he brought his planet into a law abiding planet by torturing and killing those that broke the law and basically said if you break the law your next. He also would televise his tortures and made it illegal for the people not to watch thus scaring them straight.
The main issue was that he had no grey area in his judgement. A mom who stole a loaf of bread was just as guilty and punished the same as a serial killer. Also he could see the future but mainly it was the worst futures and anybody he met he would see their death which made him more and more crazy. He was a tortured soul and really wanted nothing more than to die and wanted his brothers to kill him because he felt he had become what he had always hated and fought and as such deserved nothing more than the death he had punished so many others with.
He is one of the few Primarchs that died in which he knew how he was gunna die and allowed an Imperial assassin to find him and kill him without a fight to prove all his visions had always been true. No one had believed him, like when he met Fulgrim (Emperors Children) he saw a large snake, which is what he turned into under Slaanesh.
The reason people love him so much is because of all the Primarchs he is one of the most interesting and nuts. Also after he realized that his planet had gone back to crime after he left it, he flew back to the planet and destroyed it as punishment.
Also almost every Primarch hated him and his way of war because of all the torture calling it inhumane and having no honor. He disagreed with them because he would torture tens of thousands to bring a world into compliance, while the “honorable” Primarchs would kill tens of MILLIONS of people on battlefields. So he claimed with his method less people died.
Oddly enough sanguinius actually has a holiday similar to Christmas 🎄 in the Imperium knows as Sanguinella...
Yes!! When I saw Bricky's video I wanted to see your reaction to it, glad you enjoyed it too! :)
It was a lot of fun 😀
Always fun to watch a Bricky video. I'm always a fan of you two watching his videos. For gaming, his Frostpunk (and the DLC for Frostpunk), as well as his C&C (command and conquer) videos are wonderful deep-dives into some of his favorite games. Just an idea. :)
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As someone who doesn't put much stock into religion, I find it strange that the Word Bearers were the faction I was drawn to back in 2003.
As an Aussie, Americans saying "d*ckhead* makes me laugh every time. I wish I could tell you why
"Touching grass" means to literally go outside and to touch grass as you have been on the computer too long or in your own delusions for too long. Basically, it means to calm down and go back to reality for a bit. It is used often when the dregs of the internet become too outspoken and apparent.
It's a shame the actual Table-Top game has passed me by (it's just too complicated now in my opinion), but I do love the lore. My first faction was the Alpha Legion and I always wanted a special rule for them where they would "Sow Discord", giving a chance for an enemy unit to do nothing for turn, i.e. couldn't move or shoot.
Funny how Betheny always calls herself a heretic and yet picked 3 loyalist legions.
Maybe slowly changing and finding hope within the imperium? 🤔😇
You guys should watch Platinum Wow's videos called "Everything you NEED to know about Dragons in Warcraft" and "Wow's STUPIDEST Dragon". They are incredibly entertaining and informative videos that adds a lot of context to the Dragonflight WOW trailer you saw a while back.
Thanks for the video recommendations 🙂
30:45 Robute Gorillaman had me 😂
Honestly, as much as I find these two legions boring as fuck, emps probably would have not only successfully conquered the galaxy but done it in record time if he had just made the Imperial Fists and Ultramarine legions and pumped all of the resources from the 20 legions instead into just those two.
Space Wolves main here, so cool thing, the Space Wolves don't give even the slightest of fucks. A while ago a legion of Chaos Cultists with some Khornate Chaos Marines attacked a planet called Armageddon, and the Space Wolves helped fight the attacking force along with Armageddon's Human fighting force. The Grey Knights (A secret space marine chapter that specializes in fighting chaos and chaos demons) along with the Imperial equivalent of the CIA/Gestapo called the Inquisition swung by to help fight the demons off. The day is saved! Huzzah! Now, however, the Inquisition and Grey Knights needed to quell any and all mention of the Cultists and Demons, so they decide that the people of Armageddon must die to keep the enemy a mystery. Can't let anyone not already in the know know about Chaos! The Space Wolves vehemently disagreed. So what happened was that the Space Wolves put their Cruisers and Ships AROUND the fleeing cruisers that contained Armageddon's people so that the Inquisition and Grey Knights couldn't fire without attacking their brother Space Marine Chapter. Grimnar (Space Wolf Chapter Master of the Space Wolves) ordered his soldiers to not fire back, so many argue that the Space Wolves had a further moral high ground. And they just continued to cause problems for the Inquisition especially by just continually giving the finger at every opportunity they could. Understand the Inquisition is pretty much, politically speaking, invincible, they can do pretty much anything they want as long as they say it was in service of the Emperor. So they often are just used to getting their way, essentially. But the Space Wolves are pretty much one of or the most anti-authoritarian and idiosyncratic who do whatever they feel is right. So I guess;
Tl;dr version is Space Wolves and Inquisition had some beef, Space Wolves kept humiliating the Inquisition and now the history of the Inquisition is now marred by a period of time called The Months of Shame when an army of Werewolf Space Vikings kept the Gestapo in a metaphorical headlock and promised the Grey Knights that they were next.
Hell yeah Space Wolves! Stick it to the Inquisition 😎🤟 dig it. Thanks for giving us more info on them 🙂
Almost every space marine can eat the flesh of an enemy and get intel from their memories, not just the Space Wolves
Emperors Children are one of the strongest to play. And they get those lovely sonic weapons, and lovely melee buffs.
Nice! Knew there was a reason was drawn to them 🙂
And lots and lots of drugs made out of poisons, Dark Eldar stims, and actual _people._ 8)
@@Archon3960 Bet some of the drugs are called Soylent Green.
There are no wolves on Fenris
My favorites are the white scars, thousand sons, and salamanders.
Funny enough, the way how I pickled my faction was I saw Mortarion's model and was sold immediately.
Haha, that works 😁
Pls look at the trailers for Paraworld, maybe then there will be some sort of a sequel ^^'
It has dinosaurs, it has warriors, it has portals and you will probably never hear of it ever again. It's pretty much forgotten if ever really known tbh. But the Cinematic opening is really awesome though
Hadn’t heard of that game before. Thanks for the suggestion 😀
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames It wouldnt be enough for an own full Video, so you need to come with a solution for that. The game came out in 2006 btw