Would I buy a Type S after these losses? Yes but…the day I am picking it up here’s what I will do: new exhaust, new lowered spring (way to high), tune the engine to at least 400 to 450bhp if it can be done, replace the front seats ( too bulky) and maybe a better infotainment screen! Then I would daily drive it. For 62,000 dollars Canadian, it’s not a bad deal and most dealerships aren’t charging premium!
The problem is we have no idea how the engine will respond to tuning yet, and you may void your warranty on any engine repairs for damage caused by the tune. Same goes for the adjustable suspension if you drop it on lowering springs. One of the main appeals of buying Acura is the reliability and so you modding it may negate some of that
So basically change everything about the car the day you buy it. That says a lot right there in terms of what Acura put out here. The good deal really depends on what you perceive as value and what you are looking for in a car. As a performance car, that by Acura's numbers should be right in the mix with all its competitors, $53k US is not a great deal. Especially considering the Stinger and Genesis can be found for less than this with motivated dealers, infiniti Red sport 400 are selling new in the mid to low $40s (with an MSRP of $53k-$60k), BMW M340i are leasing really well, etc. The Acura Type S does not have aggressive lease deals and even if they are not charging a premium where you are, they are certainly not coming off MSRP to the extent others are because of all the hype. For me, I wanted the Type S to dominant which for as much as it was pumped up, it really needed to do. I would not pay full MSRP even though many will and many have (even over MSRP) because of Acura's marketing. You have to give it to Acura for that.
Fascinating to see real world results. I’ve always said Acura F’d up in not giving the Type S more HP. It needed 380 -400. Acura should be embarrassed and this will hurt sales overall. I have a whole new respect for genesis now!!!
The Type S is really fast for its specs, just because the Type S is a bit slower than a car that weighs ~400 pounds less, with a bigger engine, and an extra turbo does not mean it’s a bad car. Put them on the track and see the difference in performance that’s where the type S badge will come in clutch.
@@acuras4ever you said it yourself, it's 400 pounds heavier. That much weight makes an even bigger difference on the track. I'm sure the sh-awd will provide good traction, but its just too heavy to perform competitively in its league. Acura really dropped the ball with this one
@@acuras4ever against who? Lol 😂 doubt anyone is going to daily track an everyday sports sedan…. Lol 😂 it can barely handle a g70….. imagine a stinger with a jb4 tune… and some bolt ons… “track” lol 😂 majority of these buyers don’t even track these cars! 😂😅😂 type s = type slow in this current TLX….
TLX Type s is a good looking car, but cmon Acura! Even the last model RLX with the electrics motors have 377hp. For a perfomance car, they should of made this car packed with atleast 400hp🤦
I had narrowed my purchase decision down to these two cars and ended up buying the G70, mostly on account of some features you couldn’t get on the fully dressed Type S like heads up display, 360 cameras, etc. I’ve had the G70 for about 6 weeks now and I have absolutely no regrets. I’ve got the exact same spec as the one in this video, except for black leather with red stitching and red seatbelts. It looks awesome and drives even better than it looks.
@@SlipAngleG70 the ride comfort and NVH on the G70 is much better. Also, I prefer the look and feel of the materials in the G70; not sure how well it will wear though. The one thing I miss from my C43 is the crazy AMG exhaust.
@@TheOne_pI bought the type s. Hyundai struggles with taste. This car is probaby the best-looking out of any of their designs, but it's still a little off. If you've ever been to a Kia dealer, the experience is odd. Like they hired people from the carnival to sell cars, and it leaves a lot to be desired, and I don't trust them. The genesis is a smaller car, it is also not built like the Acura. The Acura is a very rigid chassis, where the genesis just doesn't feel quite right when you get bossy. You can feel the difference in quality when you close the doors, the way things fit, and how much thought was put into the overall design. The power is good in both of these cars, and each has a lot of features. I prefer the touchpad so many like to complain about to a touchscreen, no fingerprints. Also, I really like the combination of digital and analog guage cluster. The engine sound is phenomenal, but it's relatively quiet in the cabin. If genesis upped their game, and fixed their reputation, I might be interested.
I don’t know 🤷🏽♂️ wtf Acura was thinking when they decided to make this car I mean com on man this is supposed to be fucking luxury sport Sedan not a got damn Cruise ship !! They need to go back to the basics. The 3G type S was the perfect car this is a fucking joke
This is what I mean. Everything is good about the Type S but needed more power. Keep everything the same but give it 400hp. 355 is to weak for a top of the line sedan.
It is embarrassing and to add salt to the wound you can get all of the German rivals( much better cars in every category) at the same price of better as they are always aggressive with discounts.
I understand all the talk about comparing it to S4s, C43s and M340s. But at least for now the type S is the top performance variant excluding the NSX. And I think their top performance car would have higher performance.
@hon solo I think it does make sense. Acura should bring a feature set, performance and price that are ALL superior to the German brands they are trying compete with to attract new buyers. Cadillac is doing it so is Genesis particularly in the performance oriented trims. It's a good car and nice looking lacking in performance.
It’s more like a 200 lb difference. The loaded 3.3t G70 AWD is a tick over or under 4000 lbs depends on which magazine weighs it. I’ve seen 3998 in 4004lbs.
Agreed the power-to-weight ratio is definitely in the G70's favor. However, in the races that mattered (dig and roll race in the sportiest settings, run 4 and 5), it was closer than expected - only 1 to 1.5 car lengths.
@@dmanatan the transmission is very quick in the type s, the problem is the weight. If it was 3900lbs even with the same 355hp then it would’ve been way more competitive
@@RomaneMaticaliseGordon it’s quick but it’s not a DCT. Probably made that choice for drivability? But I agree with you on weight. I’m sure there’s plenty of reasons for it being heavy. I wonder if it’s quieter and more comfortable than its Competition.
The thing about the Sport mode in the Stinger and G70, is that is actually works. It really makes a difference. I have a Stinger GT2, and it just turns into a beast in Sport mode, good stuff.
It's hard to hate either car. One used to be an underdog and the other is the underdog fighting for recognition. They're what this world needs. Practical,quick, and beautiful cars.
the world continue changing , people just do not accept or just continue to live in the past. Hyundai is getting better, and I also tell people nissan is on a come back , I keep getting a backlash about past which have nothing to do with the current cars.
@@Mike-lt6sj In your dreams, they going out of business. Nissan just post profit, further they have solid state battery coming, they have PHEV they just went on sale in China develop with partner Donfeng, vencia DDI PHEV, which is more fuel efficient that even Toyota RAV4 prime claiming 4.3l/100km, they Qashqai is still higher seller in Europe, the patrol still sell in high volume in Arabic countries, they have new engines coming, they have 50% thermal efficiency engine coming in 2026, they are already ahead in e-synthetic fuels, which they are current testing with along side other makers like Honda and VW. America is not the only market that sell vehicles, what should be more worry is Toyota, they might sell well in some countries but not all, in Europe they meeting stiff competition, China start to release cars in those market and all pressure start.
This was a really good race. On some of the races the gaps were bigger than what I would have expected. Both are really good cars and worthy to fight in the luxury sport sedan segment.
As a Honda/Acura fanboy and owner of a 2020 Accord Sport, I’m frustrated and disappointed in the new TLX. The Accord is the lightest out of it’s segment and competitors and pretty much beats out everything with the exception of the higher HP and Torque, K5 GT & N-Line Sonata (when they can put power down), it’s a beast. This TLX is the heaviest of its segment and it has the least amount of power and still costs just as much, it will get destroyed by every single car it races in it’s segment. A simple tune of a Accord 2.0T and/or Civic Type-R, they can easily take the heavy Acura. Honda/Acura pays and put more attention, time, & money into the Honda brand and it shows. The MDX Type-S will be even worse since it’ll likely be heavier with the same powertrain. The ONLY compliment I can give it is that it looks good, better than every single car in the class. Disappointed with you, Acura.
@@limitedreach4446 good point but getting that power to rhe ground even from a roll will always be an issue. Still the accord 2.0t is a fantastic car and deff doesn’t disappoint.
Im EXACTLY the same. I was soooo lookin forward to get this type s but when i heard the curb weight ...forget it...lol . Love the looks of course. That yellow tiger pearl would've look good next to my boost blue type r...😣
@@BCautosolutions True but the Type-R got a 5 sec 0-60 which is kinda on par with the Acura so with its light weight, it may take it without even being tuned. I honestly don’t think the Accord Sport 2.0T would do that bad on a roll against it. Tuned would be something I’d like to see.
The Type S is good looking, but damn! the Genesis is a pretty car. I knew the Genesis would easily take it. The Type S is too heavy and slightly underpowered. I was hoping that Acura would have given it at least 380hp, but per usual, Acura was conservative.
Maybe that's the approach that make them last a lot longer than competitors? I mean, the Acura will outlive this and the Audi like a decade, EASY. For some, that reputation and resale value are more important than the 0-60, that and that the Acura still one of the best to drive all around.
The sales numbers will be conservative as well. Having driven two Honda Accords (a 2018 2.0 and a 2014 V6 Touring) both with transmission issues among a slew of other quality issues, I would be hard pressed these days to tour Hondas reliability. Having spoken to several Honda mechanics, they have told me they have seen a significant number of transmission replacement situations in recent years. I believe one said "I am not sure what's going on, transmissions are falling out of the bottom of these things left and right." Maybe reliability was good when Honda made simple cars, using the same design for 20 straight years. That is when they could advertise reliability. Now that they are using new turbo engines with new technology they are no better then any of the other manufacturers with the exception of producing slower cars. Also, while this car is much bigger and heavier then the G70, the rear legroom is literally nearly as cramped. The Kia Stinger would be just a much better option at $10K+ less money. Honda should just go back to the simple people movers and not try to compete with the Hyundais, BMW, Audis, Nissan/Infiniti's, Cadillacs, Mercedes or even Lexus on the performance front because it ain't working.
Really appreciate John for bringing the the type s out, a little disappointed by the performance of the type S. A little crazy that some of us are asking for type S vs Accord, but Acura brand is really tanking, when you have a new brand in the Genesis destroying your best offering
I expected the Genesis to win and never been exited by Acura as a premium barons that just seems like it's kind of boring and a Honda with sound deadening , more electronics and leather seats with lots of adjustments , but I could be wrong . But I don't know it got destroyed , one car was faster then the other and it was obvious but not LIKE HOLLY SHIT and left the Acura 6-10 cars or tenths behind . It's a matter of a couple tenths that separate them is acceleration. Yes even 1/10th is a car length and 2 or 3 is sort of a big difference but not to where I would say destroyed . There's close or even , there's A is faster then B and then destruction where the cars seem in completely different categories. The Geneis 3.3t cars are known for being quite fast . Some minor tuning apparently makes them very fast similar to how turbo BMWs are often just some tuning on stock set up away from feeling like a very different car . If your an ACURA fan even if I don't get the appeal I don't think that was destruction up against a company on a tear and trying to make statements everywhere that is lighter and has a 3.3 with 2 turbos .
Thanks Sam. You read my mind. TypeS vs g70 3.3, I alway wanted to see. I'm like VTEC4EVER guy, but I think I will wait for TypeR or just get genesis. Thanks again.
@@clayhuh "The advice from someone who wants to deny the changing real world.😆" Are you sure that changing world is changing for the better with European junk technology and lack of business ethics?
Second run in Genesis has pretty quick gear changes just after takeoff. Hard to believe, even in comfort mode, that it would change gears that quickly. Throttle position of the Genesis is suspect compared to the other races.
This isn't the first race where I've seen this guy fake the results. I mean we are car people... does he not think we can notice the fast gear changes and that the engine isn't even revving? 🤣
Nice to see drag races but if a full comparison review from both was included it would make it much better. Hopefully we get to see more and the differences between them in the next ones.
I am getting drawn more into Genesis lately. I like the design, quality, just overall like the car. They are really stepping up everything. Love the price too.
Acura gotta bump the numbers up to atleast 400hp it's getting beaten by everything it's supposed to go up against lol. Seeing these videos will most likely lessen the number of sales
People are getting dumber or what? Was the almighty NSX fast 0-60? Is the CTR? The only Honda that beats most 0-60, is the new NSX and that's because is hybrid and well, a supercar. Honda is about driving, like.. actually driving, not pressing a button and then hitting the gas soullessly
@@disco.lemonade Honda has long stopped making fun cars. I had high hopes for this, but the engines looks soulless to me. The old 3.0 V6, 6 Speed manual sounded and seemed more fun than this engine.
@TH-cam Sucks Duh. A slower car that doesn't have some of the options that its competitors has but yet it's priced at 53k. You can buy a 46k that's 0-60 is 5 secs & it's equipped with all the specs that the Type S has minus the SH-AWD. Think prices based off the specs my man, not just the specs. If this car was priced lower like 49k then ppl wouldn't complained.
355 is not impressive at all, considering how heavy the Acura is. Price is also steep. It does need 400 hp engine and more torque. You can get a Stinger for cheaper, still looks good, new Kia badge, comfortable and faster.
Sam another great drag race! Bravo. But now it's time to see the Genesis G70 versus the Kia Stinger GT AWD, RWD, AWD vs RWD, RWD vs AWD I don't care, I just need to see this drag race. Sam make it happen, my man!
Thanks for the matchup that many were looking for. It will be interesting seeing the tlx tuned soon. Even though it is a new engine. why didn't honda just use their 3.5 mass production v6 and slap the turbo on that. It would of probably brought the price down and up the HP to 400+
I love the rear of the TLX Type S. Honestly, seeing it made me slightly regret getting my G70. However, seeing the Genesis walk away in the drag races reassured me. If my G70 had quad exhaust it would be perfect. It is so awesome to drive. I can't help but put it in sport with all assists off even when I'm daily driving.
@@moistydoooood No regrets here, my other choices were a 340i or Giulia, I couldn't pass up all the extras in the G70 so I'm happy with my decision. If I had more money to spare however, I would get a Giulia Quadrifoglio but that MSRP starts at 78k, lol. I could have purchased it but it would keep my spending tight and uncomfortable. I'm happy with my G70, I get compliments everywhere I go and weirdly enough there's more Giulia's (base model) on the road than the G70 so I stand out. I get so many compliments, it's crazy.
@@TheRedRaven_ congrats! I recently purchased 2023 g70 3.3t RWD with sport prestige and advanced packages (only one on lot!) Hyundai were open to negotiating unlike Cadillac. I wanted the CT5V but Caddy didn’t want to negotiate…msrp for g70 spec’d out was $55K, CT5V $65K (fully loaded but added paint protection, tint and dealer markup closer to $70K! I liked the handling and ride more in CT5V but I was still impressed with g70 driving dynamics…it helped that mine included sport prestige cause that adds lsd, adaptive dampers, auto rev match, brembo brakes and such. 👍🏼
I think the gear change from third to fourth in the Genesis in the second run was completely messed up, which is why the Acura stuck with the Genesis so closely in that run. Start playing at 3:43 and then listen to the way too early shift at about 3:51.
@@doubled8247 I will says it’s nice to know the difference in time between the 2 cars quarters when driven by drivers closer to your typical driver. Not too concerned with the flat 1/4 mile time but knowing a car is .5 sec faster through the quarter is useful since it’s hard to tell how much a car wins by with the close angle finish line shot
The Type-S looks nice outside but I’m not a fan of the dash. Loving my G70. Eco getting 25-30 mpg. Sport+ having tons of fun. All in the lap of luxury. Mods to come later.
I have the same car in the same color as your picture and I love it as well. I am also getting the mug you claim. Sport+ is fun as hell and surprises everything on the highway. I debadged it and now I have so many people question me about it.
@@twinturboaddict nice color choice! I was really surprised by the eco mpg. The coasting feature really helps. It’s something you would think every manufacturer should have.
@RICARDO sooo much BETTER than the Acura. Oh and I have owned Acura’s. Let’s talk warranty. And they pick my car up for service and leave me a loaner. Pft F off ignorant fuck.
That Acura in black color, what a beautiful machine, very powerful considering the weight, hopefully Acura put it on a diet for the upcomimg model and it will be even better. But on my opinion is better looking than its competitors. Great content!!! Keep it coming!
That's ridiculously impressive, the Acura is down on displacement, down 1 turbo, down on BHP and Torque and it's heavier and still doesn't get absolutely trashed, very very impressive. Also like the looks of the Acura way more :)
@@Mike-lt6sj That was with mod (tune) on the Type-S even though the owner didn't say anything about it. I knew something was off the first time I saw this video. If the Type-S was stock the G70 would pull like found in the Straight Pipe channel racing these cars.
@@noobz5056 I believe it's faster. A few tenths of a second. I haven't seen anyone with a tune race on the type s yet. I know the hondata is saying 400 and 440 torque. This type s doesn't have that, it would be eating that genesis if so. Either way, these are Dad cars, not sports cars.
@@Mike-lt6sj I watched this video when it was published last year.. I wasn't sure at the time but God just told me now that gold Type-S was not stock. He said it had just a tune. Don't know what tune exactly, but it was putting out more power than what stock Type-S puts out. If the race was done with stock that G70 would be pulling bus lengths on the Type-S. The stock G70 (RWD version) can do 12.9s and trap at 110 mph, showroom stock. The Type-S doesn't trap like that. If the race was to half mile or 1 mile the result will be horrendous for the Type-S.
@@noobz5056 Well, if they made a rwd version of the type s, that might be more interesting. Fair enough, the G70 is faster. If I buy this acura, mine will probably be a touch quicker.
These videos are great but I'd love to see comparison in handling and tracking times, etc. For those complaining about less power on the Acura, I'm sure very soon we'll be able to JB4 it and get it up to the standard ish of 415 whp on most twin turbos after installing a piggy back tune.
The poor off the line is due to the transmission tuning. A TCU tune can fix that but will void the warranty. I have a 2022 G70 3.3T Launch Edition AWD and was looking into it. They tune it conservatively so they can offer a longer warranty.
bruhman Jonesss, reality tells a different story...Honda’s sell extremely well because your desire for breakneck acceleration is not what actually sells cars. Honda knows this and empowers thisevtuners out there to hack the power to the moon on Honda’s very strong engine blocks.
I respect that you’re doing car reviews many aren’t. But if you’re going to take up a chunk of video for the intro. Get the camera work on par with the overall vid quality! I have been watching your videos a lot lately. Much love from Minnesota!
Damn ! I had high hopes for the Type S. Seems like 410hp would’ve compensated for the weight difference !! Acura, fix it ! ✨🥇Genesis, excellent work as usual 🥇✨
for the price of the genesis 3.3t AWD and also the Stinger GT2 AWD... there's nothing messing with them. $50k-$52k I wouldn't buy the TLX type S. no pano sunroof, lousey interface non touch screen and not even the rear seats are heated or have any charging ports. I wanna see the civic type R on a roll race vs the type S. the transmission on the type S is hurting lol
I'm so done with Acura. After the 2004-2008, they went to the curb. Oil consumption issues, poor design, and now no increased horsepower. I've owned the 04 TL which was love, still driving my 2010 TL SH-AWD both 6 speed manual transmission. I'm over the fact I can't get a manual shift vehicle 😒
@@blazingsynth4314 I've always liked the TL. It has evolved but with issues the later models began to experience along with removal of the manual transmission; I'm done.
I'm thinking it's a combination of several small things, obviously the lighter weight, greater hp/torque numbers, but I bet the twins on the Genesis are selected for more mid to top end than the Type-S. Acura can't have a twin V-6 that costs a fraction of the NSX prancing around the dealerships though. That was a great race and I do like both cars, but Genesis has just *been killing it* with this latest generation of vehicles, along with the Stinger, of course!
If you plan on trading that g70 before it hits 50000 miles I’d say go for it. If you want it to last over 500000 miles go for the Acura. Hyundai/Kia falls into the realm of really un reliable cars.
@@jacobrael9872 It's just an unattractive vehicle and also is an economy car manufacturer. Most people buying in this segment aren't looking for an economy car, so genesis and kia aren't on the list.
Me and my buddy were just talking about this. As happy as we were about the type s coming back it just didn't deliver like we expected. The kia stinger and g70 are lighter, have more power , and came out of left field swinging above its weight. The type s needs a weight reduction and 400+ horsepower so it could compete. Hopefully when they start tuning the type s it delivers the Honda/acura known power everyone wants.
Let’s just put it this way. Being a fairly new company, Genesis has made an amazing car. Considering that the Type S has been around for a couple decades. And to be honest I just love the looks of the G70 better (IMO) My dad has a 2010 Hyundai Genesis sedan with 300,000+km and it’s still running strong.
Lovely video. Closer than I thought considering the Type S is brand spanking new! Would love to see a retest of the Type S after the break in period. These turbo Honda engines open up noticeably after some mileage (not to mention better gas mileage).
@@iforyou idk about the TLX never drove one. But I do have a stinger and from doing runs With 500 miles on odometer vs fully broken in shaves .2 off 1/4 mile 500 miles on dragy 12.95 1500 miles on dragy 12.78-12.8
That would be unfair. As a 2016 q50 rs owner Id make dog meat out of the type s. As a loyal Honda fan and Honda owner I was hoping for a 400 hp twin turbo output on the type s. Honda owners are left to make those numbers at their own expense. Kinda knew Honda was gonna short change us in the hp numbers and placing a single Mitsubishi turbo instead. Honda’s “earth dreams” mantra is what seals that fate. No v8 and never will be offered. Killed the v10 in the 2nd gen nsx with a v6 twin Mitsubishi made turbo setup. Will stick to my baby gtr vr30ddtt even though it ain’t reliable like a Honda. At least it has billet made turbos. Nissan ftw.
@@jeraldhogan exactly. So why not see how much faster it would be against the type-s ? There’s no video of it that I can find. So why not find out here? The Tlx-s main competitor is the Is500 and the q50 rs. It would be cool to watch.
Hey Sam if you can do this race just to see how far the Type S has come can you race the 2008 Type S vs the 2022 Type S. It will be cool to see how much better the new one is thanks. Keep up the amazing work.
@@slipknotron1626 any car can be sexy, when u add on some body kits, this is car is like one of those instagram model, hot asf on instagram with all the make-up but ugly asf under the make-up and can't perform....so basically a ricer
Great video Sam, as per usual. Will you be getting your hands on a GV70 (2.5 preferably)? If so, would be nice to have it against an RDX. Thanks from Toronto.
TLX Type S heavier. Do you get something for that in durability, equipment, safety etc? May be its heavier for a reason? I'd appreciate some educated feedback. I am considering one of these to buy.
I would like to see how they do on a road course. I live in the mountain area and like a spirited drive on twisty roads more often then not. That's what the Type-S was built for. On paper I could already see that the G70 was going to win. but Paper can't tell you how well a suspension and related controls are dialed in.
Never put a Korean brand 🤮car with the word luxury in a same sentence.. Korean cars🙄 are garbage and they had a bad stigma attached to them.. Most Will roll their eyes when you tell them you drive one🙄
@@charlesjackson1700 why would i care about what people think of my drive? The car speaks for itself, 65k miles on my stinger and drives like when i bought it with 6 miles on the ODO, do i give a fuck about what people think even though all i get is compliments on the car? You re the reason there is "stigma" for any car brand, you cant accept when an automaker has progress. Probably a teenager without a car or a job that read on some forum that korean cars are bad. Get out to the real world
The Honda fanboys already in their feelings from that S4 video. After the G70 drags that ass, line it up with the 2.0T Accord sport and a K5 GT so we can put it to bed lol
@@HorrisPMcTitties The new M340i is a freak of nature. I'm just waiting for the 2 series to get the updated B58 so I can make more dumb financial decisions. 😂
Glad to see my theory about the Acura was correct. I’m a q50 rs owner. I watched that race as well. For the price of the Acura you would think it had more balls. 🤷🏽♂️
Acura this is just pathetic. Lexus and Acura are resting on their laurels when the only selling point is the unquantifiable “projected” reliability. The TLX Type S is embarrassing. We can’t even say that it’s the practical/pragmatic or value-oriented choice because of how pathetic the rear seat leg room is for the second row, AND the overinflated/expensive price tag!
Why did they use the ugliest cheap looking analog gauges too? It’s going on 2022. Those gauges look like they belong in some old Subaru WRX or EVO from the 90s or early 2000s. There’s so much disappointing stuff about the TLX.
@Tony Dinh Acura have better resell than what? Acura has been on death’s door for the past 10 years. The worst car I’ve ever owned was an Accord 2.0T Touring, the 10-speed transmission is trash.
What was Acura thinking, you would think they would at least make it mid pack in acceleration oh well props to Genesis for giving them a proper flogging.
I think the 8 speed auto in the G70 is preventing it from completely steamrolling the Type S. Genesis has made much improvements to the transmission for the new G80. Hopefully the transmission updates will be added to the next G70.
I like these straight line drag type of races but can we see how the car is really handling around a track or a lap like lap times car noise handling overstear and things like that I thing most of the cars you test have more potential than goin in the straight line .
The tuning potential with that twin turbo tho, most likely squeeze more power than a tune with the type s then the weight will play even more of a role than it already does
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Would I buy a Type S after these losses? Yes but…the day I am picking it up here’s what I will do: new exhaust, new lowered spring (way to high), tune the engine to at least 400 to 450bhp if it can be done, replace the front seats ( too bulky) and maybe a better infotainment screen! Then I would daily drive it. For 62,000 dollars Canadian, it’s not a bad deal and most dealerships aren’t charging premium!
Disagree. New cars u aceept it as it is or leave it.
@@tahsin28 Not to be rude but definitely not the type of comment I expected lol. I know new car or leave it idea, I am just giving my take on it.
The problem is we have no idea how the engine will respond to tuning yet, and you may void your warranty on any engine repairs for damage caused by the tune. Same goes for the adjustable suspension if you drop it on lowering springs. One of the main appeals of buying Acura is the reliability and so you modding it may negate some of that
@@edwindiaz7034 warranty as the least I am worried if I am tuning it. But a slight increase will help for sure ;)
So basically change everything about the car the day you buy it. That says a lot right there in terms of what Acura put out here. The good deal really depends on what you perceive as value and what you are looking for in a car. As a performance car, that by Acura's numbers should be right in the mix with all its competitors, $53k US is not a great deal. Especially considering the Stinger and Genesis can be found for less than this with motivated dealers, infiniti Red sport 400 are selling new in the mid to low $40s (with an MSRP of $53k-$60k), BMW M340i are leasing really well, etc. The Acura Type S does not have aggressive lease deals and even if they are not charging a premium where you are, they are certainly not coming off MSRP to the extent others are because of all the hype. For me, I wanted the Type S to dominant which for as much as it was pumped up, it really needed to do. I would not pay full MSRP even though many will and many have (even over MSRP) because of Acura's marketing. You have to give it to Acura for that.
Fascinating to see real world results. I’ve always said Acura F’d up in not giving the Type S more HP. It needed 380 -400. Acura should be embarrassed and this will hurt sales overall. I have a whole new respect for genesis now!!!
The Type S is really fast for its specs, just because the Type S is a bit slower than a car that weighs ~400 pounds less, with a bigger engine, and an extra turbo does not mean it’s a bad car. Put them on the track and see the difference in performance that’s where the type S badge will come in clutch.
@@acuras4ever you said it yourself, it's 400 pounds heavier. That much weight makes an even bigger difference on the track. I'm sure the sh-awd will provide good traction, but its just too heavy to perform competitively in its league. Acura really dropped the ball with this one
@@acuras4ever against who? Lol 😂 doubt anyone is going to daily track an everyday sports sedan…. Lol 😂 it can barely handle a g70….. imagine a stinger with a jb4 tune… and some bolt ons… “track” lol 😂 majority of these buyers don’t even track these cars! 😂😅😂 type s = type slow in this current TLX….
@@KuyaArbee Yep, the G70 has a 50/50 weight distribution, more torque and excellent handling. Better than the Stinger and TLX.
@@SlipAngleG70 but stinger is the better everyday car! A literal grand touring car with amazing interior space and cargo space
TLX Type s is a good looking car, but cmon Acura! Even the last model RLX with the electrics motors have 377hp. For a perfomance car, they should of made this car packed with atleast 400hp🤦
💯💯 Acura disappointed a lot of loyal ppl like myself ima stick with my 3G type S still hands down a beast
Yea they went stingy. Its not even a light car cmon bro
Now they have a flagship sedan that burns way more fuel for what performance gains? Sure it looks way better inside and out but that's not enough.
I have to admit, the type s is really slow for that type of money
Acura need to understand looks alone can't hold off the competition
The car needs more power 🔋
Man the G70 and Stinger are beasts. Great race.
G70 has the same engine as the stinger
@@trtjojo3008 their suspension setups are different
@TH-cam Sucks why?
@Anthony Qlol wtf? did you really compare a 160 thousand dollar car to a g70 ? A car that's only a quarter of the price as the nsx? Get a grip
@Anthony Q there you go!! your brain is at a much better spot. yes all of those cars will smoke the tlx type s
I had narrowed my purchase decision down to these two cars and ended up buying the G70, mostly on account of some features you couldn’t get on the fully dressed Type S like heads up display, 360 cameras, etc. I’ve had the G70 for about 6 weeks now and I have absolutely no regrets. I’ve got the exact same spec as the one in this video, except for black leather with red stitching and red seatbelts. It looks awesome and drives even better than it looks.
I have also owned a 22 G70 Sport AWD for around 6 weeks and agree with you. Not a single regret. I love the G more than my old C43 and 335!!!
@@CanadianMax Nice. What do you like more than the C43? I love the interior of the C43. Not so much the exterior though
@@SlipAngleG70 the ride comfort and NVH on the G70 is much better. Also, I prefer the look and feel of the materials in the G70; not sure how well it will wear though. The one thing I miss from my C43 is the crazy AMG exhaust.
On the side of the road you’ll wish you got the Acura because you wouldn’t be there
@@TheOne_pI bought the type s.
Hyundai struggles with taste. This car is probaby the best-looking out of any of their designs, but it's still a little off.
If you've ever been to a Kia dealer, the experience is odd. Like they hired people from the carnival to sell cars, and it leaves a lot to be desired, and I don't trust them.
The genesis is a smaller car, it is also not built like the Acura. The Acura is a very rigid chassis, where the genesis just doesn't feel quite right when you get bossy.
You can feel the difference in quality when you close the doors, the way things fit, and how much thought was put into the overall design.
The power is good in both of these cars, and each has a lot of features. I prefer the touchpad so many like to complain about to a touchscreen, no fingerprints. Also, I really like the combination of digital and analog guage cluster. The engine sound is phenomenal, but it's relatively quiet in the cabin. If genesis upped their game, and fixed their reputation, I might be interested.
Been waiting to see this in action....thank you for making this happen!
Finally, you might be the 1st one posting it. Nice cant wait
Sam, you’re killin it man. Intro music always a little scary but I brave through it
Having the type s badge just makes people expect much more than what’s being delivered, the competitors are winning
that boat is too heavy for this number, should've had at least 400WHP and 450WTQ
@@shameerhussain5380 My thoughts exactly. The weight is insane
I'd take the accord sport with mods at a fraction of the cost and leave both of those cars behind......
I don’t know 🤷🏽♂️ wtf Acura was thinking when they decided to make this car I mean com on man this is supposed to be fucking luxury sport Sedan not a got damn Cruise ship !! They need to go back to the basics. The 3G type S was the perfect car this is a fucking joke
@@jaysonoliveira4752 the K5 GT is superior to the Accord sport
This is what I mean. Everything is good about the Type S but needed more power. Keep everything the same but give it 400hp. 355 is to weak for a top of the line sedan.
Yepppp. Only 50 more horsepower than a camry TRD, that's embarrassing lol
It is embarrassing and to add salt to the wound you can get all of the German rivals( much better cars in every category) at the same price of better as they are always aggressive with discounts.
355 is fine, but the car is just so heavy for its size.
I understand all the talk about comparing it to S4s, C43s and M340s. But at least for now the type S is the top performance variant excluding the NSX. And I think their top performance car would have higher performance.
@hon solo I think it does make sense. Acura should bring a feature set, performance and price that are ALL superior to the German brands they are trying compete with to attract new buyers. Cadillac is doing it so is Genesis particularly in the performance oriented trims. It's a good car and nice looking lacking in performance.
A camera angle of the gauge clusters would be an awesome touch. Keep up the awesome videos!!
Sam, this is outstanding. Real Time Dragging these competitive cars. Yes, the appx 400 lbs +/- is a difference maker.
It’s more like a 200 lb difference. The loaded 3.3t G70 AWD is a tick over or under 4000 lbs depends on which magazine weighs it. I’ve seen 3998 in 4004lbs.
400lb and drivetrain losses cause "shawd" magic
Agreed the power-to-weight ratio is definitely in the G70's favor. However, in the races that mattered (dig and roll race in the sportiest settings, run 4 and 5), it was closer than expected - only 1 to 1.5 car lengths.
Just SO heavy the Acura. Yikes, lighten it up team.
@@singular9 Aren’t they both affected by drivetrain losses?
The Type S is a heavy pig. It's getting gapped by all it's competitors.
It’s heavy and needs a better transmission. It’s still a great car.
Agreed. I was excited for it, but after watching it get wrecked by pretty everything, it's a definite no for me. I'll take a Q50 Red Sport instead.
@@ssjMaximum22Goku You’ll love the red sport . FANTASTIC V-6 Turbo. Amazing seats, quiet to drive.
@@dmanatan the transmission is very quick in the type s, the problem is the weight. If it was 3900lbs even with the same 355hp then it would’ve been way more competitive
@@RomaneMaticaliseGordon it’s quick but it’s not a DCT. Probably made that choice for drivability? But I agree with you on weight. I’m sure there’s plenty of reasons for it being heavy. I wonder if it’s quieter and more comfortable than its Competition.
The thing about the Sport mode in the Stinger and G70, is that is actually works. It really makes a difference. I have a Stinger GT2, and it just turns into a beast in Sport mode, good stuff.
It's hard to hate either car. One used to be an underdog and the other is the underdog fighting for recognition. They're what this world needs. Practical,quick, and beautiful cars.
I will gladly pick up types s if was $40,000 fully loaded. It’s just not worth the money
the world continue changing , people just do not accept or just continue to live in the past. Hyundai is getting better, and I also tell people nissan is on a come back , I keep getting a backlash about past which have nothing to do with the current cars.
@@cb5110nissan is going to go out of business. Huh?
@@Mike-lt6sj In your dreams, they going out of business.
Nissan just post profit, further they have solid state battery coming, they have PHEV they just went on sale in China develop with partner Donfeng, vencia DDI PHEV, which is more fuel efficient that even Toyota RAV4 prime claiming 4.3l/100km, they Qashqai is still higher seller in Europe, the patrol still sell in high volume in Arabic countries, they have new engines coming, they have 50% thermal efficiency engine coming in 2026, they are already ahead in e-synthetic fuels, which they are current testing with along side other makers like Honda and VW.
America is not the only market that sell vehicles, what should be more worry is Toyota, they might sell well in some countries but not all, in Europe they meeting stiff competition, China start to release cars in those market and all pressure start.
@@Mike-lt6sj Japan's Nissan Motor Co on Thursday posted a 56% rise in fourth-quarter operating profit to 87.4 billion yen ($647.17 million)
I love the red interior in the Genesis! Btw I love videos like this!👍 You just gained another subscriber.
Great video man!!!! Love your content!!!!
This was a really good race. On some of the races the gaps were bigger than what I would have expected. Both are really good cars and worthy to fight in the luxury sport sedan segment.
It kind of sounds like he lets off the throttle in the Genesis in race 2 and 4
God told me that Type-S was modded, just the tune. Unfair race.
As a Honda/Acura fanboy and owner of a 2020 Accord Sport, I’m frustrated and disappointed in the new TLX. The Accord is the lightest out of it’s segment and competitors and pretty much beats out everything with the exception of the higher HP and Torque, K5 GT & N-Line Sonata (when they can put power down), it’s a beast. This TLX is the heaviest of its segment and it has the least amount of power and still costs just as much, it will get destroyed by every single car it races in it’s segment. A simple tune of a Accord 2.0T and/or Civic Type-R, they can easily take the heavy Acura. Honda/Acura pays and put more attention, time, & money into the Honda brand and it shows. The MDX Type-S will be even worse since it’ll likely be heavier with the same powertrain. The ONLY compliment I can give it is that it looks good, better than every single car in the class. Disappointed with you, Acura.
Lmao "as a Honda/Acura fanboy" suree..
@@limitedreach4446 good point but getting that power to rhe ground even from a roll will always be an issue. Still the accord 2.0t is a fantastic car and deff doesn’t disappoint.
@@ShohruhShamanov Shut up, if the car is poor compared to the competition then it just is, it isn’t a beast like the Accord, blame Acura not me. 🤷🏽♂️
Im EXACTLY the same. I was soooo lookin forward to get this type s but when i heard the curb weight ...forget it...lol . Love the looks of course. That yellow tiger pearl would've
look good next to my boost blue type r...😣
@@BCautosolutions True but the Type-R got a 5 sec 0-60 which is kinda on par with the Acura so with its light weight, it may take it without even being tuned. I honestly don’t think the Accord Sport 2.0T would do that bad on a roll against it. Tuned would be something I’d like to see.
The Type S is good looking, but damn! the Genesis is a pretty car. I knew the Genesis would easily take it. The Type S is too heavy and slightly underpowered. I was hoping that Acura would have given it at least 380hp, but per usual, Acura was conservative.
they will probably release a more powerful version pretty soon.
And the Genesis will still be more reliable. I miss the old Honda.
Maybe that's the approach that make them last a lot longer than competitors? I mean, the Acura will outlive this and the Audi like a decade, EASY. For some, that reputation and resale value are more important than the 0-60, that and that the Acura still one of the best to drive all around.
@@disco.lemonade Who is talking about Audi? Honda and Acura reliability hasn’t been very good lately. The Hyundai / Genesis is likely better…. Sadly.
The sales numbers will be conservative as well. Having driven two Honda Accords (a 2018 2.0 and a 2014 V6 Touring) both with transmission issues among a slew of other quality issues, I would be hard pressed these days to tour Hondas reliability. Having spoken to several Honda mechanics, they have told me they have seen a significant number of transmission replacement situations in recent years. I believe one said "I am not sure what's going on, transmissions are falling out of the bottom of these things left and right." Maybe reliability was good when Honda made simple cars, using the same design for 20 straight years. That is when they could advertise reliability. Now that they are using new turbo engines with new technology they are no better then any of the other manufacturers with the exception of producing slower cars. Also, while this car is much bigger and heavier then the G70, the rear legroom is literally nearly as cramped. The Kia Stinger would be just a much better option at $10K+ less money. Honda should just go back to the simple people movers and not try to compete with the Hyundais, BMW, Audis, Nissan/Infiniti's, Cadillacs, Mercedes or even Lexus on the performance front because it ain't working.
this channel will get over 1 million subs, very, very soon. Great channel idea and execution. Bravo!
Thank you!
Really appreciate John for bringing the the type s out, a little disappointed by the performance of the type S. A little crazy that some of us are asking for type S vs Accord, but Acura brand is really tanking, when you have a new brand in the Genesis destroying your best offering
I expected the Genesis to win and never been exited by Acura as a premium barons that just seems like it's kind of boring and a Honda with sound deadening , more electronics and leather seats with lots of adjustments , but I could be wrong .
But I don't know it got destroyed , one car was faster then the other and it was obvious but not LIKE HOLLY SHIT and left the Acura 6-10 cars or tenths behind . It's a matter of a couple tenths that separate them is acceleration. Yes even 1/10th is a car length and 2 or 3 is sort of a big difference but not to where I would say destroyed . There's close or even , there's A is faster then B and then destruction where the cars seem in completely different categories. The Geneis 3.3t cars are known for being quite fast . Some minor tuning apparently makes them very fast similar to how turbo BMWs are often just some tuning on stock set up away from feeling like a very different car . If your an ACURA fan even if I don't get the appeal I don't think that was destruction up against a company on a tear and trying to make statements everywhere that is lighter and has a 3.3 with 2 turbos .
Thanks Sam. You read my mind. TypeS vs g70 3.3, I alway wanted to see. I'm like VTEC4EVER guy, but I think I will wait for TypeR or just get genesis. Thanks again.
Keep up the video I love cars and this is amazing!!
Sam - you know what type of videos to make and which cars to race.
Subscribing you!
Great video been waiting. Not going to get the S type engineers obviously didn't pay attention to the competition.
Genesis 😍❤
Thx for this vid. I'm gonna be a Genesis fan xd
You decided to be an idiot, congratulations.
@langolier The advice from someone who wants to deny the changing real world.😆
@@clayhuh "The advice from someone who wants to deny the changing real world.😆"
Are you sure that changing world is changing for the better with European junk technology and lack of business ethics?
Love your Videos, please keep them coming ! Genesis is a great looking car ! Both Hyundai and KIA really stepped it up over the years...Koodos
Second run in Genesis has pretty quick gear changes just after takeoff. Hard to believe, even in comfort mode, that it would change gears that quickly. Throttle position of the Genesis is suspect compared to the other races.
He's using the paddles to upshift for sure
Thanks for calling it out. Sounds like he gave the TLX a chance. Bc race 1 was definitely aligned
Lol at 3:50 he manually upshifted, the rpm range is so suss, these guys are frauds.
This isn't the first race where I've seen this guy fake the results. I mean we are car people... does he not think we can notice the fast gear changes and that the engine isn't even revving? 🤣
I noticed that when he raced the Q50
You just earned a sub!,)
That is a good close races good content again not bad concerning the Acura.
I've been waiting for a type s drag race comparo
Give me that Genesis!!!
Thanks man now, I can sleep 😴💤 well on how the Gen wins one of the Best of the Best.
Nice to see drag races but if a full comparison review from both was included it would make it much better. Hopefully we get to see more and the differences between them in the next ones.
I am getting drawn more into Genesis lately. I like the design, quality, just overall like the car. They are really stepping up everything. Love the price too.
G70 got a perfect win against the types S 😋😍🤩🥰
🥰😍🥰
@Catholic Firefighter 😂
Acura gotta bump the numbers up to atleast 400hp it's getting beaten by everything it's supposed to go up against lol. Seeing these videos will most likely lessen the number of sales
People are getting dumber or what? Was the almighty NSX fast 0-60? Is the CTR? The only Honda that beats most 0-60, is the new NSX and that's because is hybrid and well, a supercar. Honda is about driving, like.. actually driving, not pressing a button and then hitting the gas soullessly
@@disco.lemonade Honda has long stopped making fun cars. I had high hopes for this, but the engines looks soulless to me. The old 3.0 V6, 6 Speed manual sounded and seemed more fun than this engine.
@@rafaelgarcia-laquerre8836 the engine is excellent it’s just heavy
@TH-cam Sucks Duh. A slower car that doesn't have some of the options that its competitors has but yet it's priced at 53k. You can buy a 46k that's 0-60 is 5 secs & it's equipped with all the specs that the Type S has minus the SH-AWD. Think prices based off the specs my man, not just the specs. If this car was priced lower like 49k then ppl wouldn't complained.
355 is not impressive at all, considering how heavy the Acura is. Price is also steep. It does need 400 hp engine and more torque. You can get a Stinger for cheaper, still looks good, new Kia badge, comfortable and faster.
I've beenwaiting for this moment.
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Sam another great drag race! Bravo.
But now it's time to see the
Genesis G70 versus the Kia Stinger GT
AWD, RWD, AWD vs RWD, RWD vs AWD
I don't care, I just need to see this drag race.
Sam make it happen, my man!
Thanks for the matchup that many were looking for. It will be interesting seeing the tlx tuned soon. Even though it is a new engine. why didn't honda just use their 3.5 mass production v6 and slap the turbo on that. It would of probably brought the price down and up the HP to 400+
I love the rear of the TLX Type S. Honestly, seeing it made me slightly regret getting my G70. However, seeing the Genesis walk away in the drag races reassured me. If my G70 had quad exhaust it would be perfect. It is so awesome to drive. I can't help but put it in sport with all assists off even when I'm daily driving.
you can swap out your g70’s exhaust pretty easily actually. also-the g70 IMO looks 10x more unique and sexy and elegant. at night it looks amazing.
@@moistydoooood No regrets here, my other choices were a 340i or Giulia, I couldn't pass up all the extras in the G70 so I'm happy with my decision. If I had more money to spare however, I would get a Giulia Quadrifoglio but that MSRP starts at 78k, lol. I could have purchased it but it would keep my spending tight and uncomfortable. I'm happy with my G70, I get compliments everywhere I go and weirdly enough there's more Giulia's (base model) on the road than the G70 so I stand out. I get so many compliments, it's crazy.
Now all the privates can drag race on weekends, thanks sir 😏😂
@@TheRedRaven_ congrats! I recently purchased 2023 g70 3.3t RWD with sport prestige and advanced packages (only one on lot!) Hyundai were open to negotiating unlike Cadillac. I wanted the CT5V but Caddy didn’t want to negotiate…msrp for g70 spec’d out was $55K, CT5V $65K (fully loaded but added paint protection, tint and dealer markup closer to $70K! I liked the handling and ride more in CT5V but I was still impressed with g70 driving dynamics…it helped that mine included sport prestige cause that adds lsd, adaptive dampers, auto rev match, brembo brakes and such. 👍🏼
Did you guys used the launch control on the Type S for the race ? I think that could have help it on the run?!
I think the gear change from third to fourth in the Genesis in the second run was completely messed up, which is why the Acura stuck with the Genesis so closely in that run. Start playing at 3:43 and then listen to the way too early shift at about 3:51.
Really liking your channel man. Ever consider getting a draggy or something similar to add 0-60 and 1/4 mile times to your videos?
I have one - not worth it
@Catholic Firefighter blessings
There’s plenty of 1/4 Mike times online, this gives us a perspective of what would happen with some random dude pulling up to you for a quick run. 😂
@@doubled8247 I will says it’s nice to know the difference in time between the 2 cars quarters when driven by drivers closer to your typical driver. Not too concerned with the flat 1/4 mile time but knowing a car is .5 sec faster through the quarter is useful since it’s hard to tell how much a car wins by with the close angle finish line shot
I agree. It would make it even better having the times on the screen /speeds
The Type-S looks nice outside but I’m not a fan of the dash. Loving my G70. Eco getting 25-30 mpg. Sport+ having tons of fun. All in the lap of luxury. Mods to come later.
I have the same car in the same color as your picture and I love it as well. I am also getting the mug you claim. Sport+ is fun as hell and surprises everything on the highway. I debadged it and now I have so many people question me about it.
@@twinturboaddict nice color choice! I was really surprised by the eco mpg. The coasting feature really helps. It’s something you would think every manufacturer should have.
@RICARDO welcome to 2021. Hyundai has had a luxury brand called Genesis for atleast 7+ years.
@RICARDO I know. 🤭
@RICARDO sooo much BETTER than the Acura. Oh and I have owned Acura’s. Let’s talk warranty. And they pick my car up for service and leave me a loaner. Pft F off ignorant fuck.
The J30ac DOHC in the TLX Type S is new engineering. Thicker sleeves and more potential for power. 💪😎
That Acura in black color, what a beautiful machine, very powerful considering the weight, hopefully Acura put it on a diet for the upcomimg model and it will be even better. But on my opinion is better looking than its competitors. Great content!!! Keep it coming!
That's ridiculously impressive, the Acura is down on displacement, down 1 turbo, down on BHP and Torque and it's heavier and still doesn't get absolutely trashed, very very impressive.
Also like the looks of the Acura way more :)
Very. A couple small tweaks and it would match it np.
@@Mike-lt6sj That was with mod (tune) on the Type-S even though the owner didn't say anything about it. I knew something was off the first time I saw this video. If the Type-S was stock the G70 would pull like found in the Straight Pipe channel racing these cars.
@@noobz5056 I believe it's faster. A few tenths of a second.
I haven't seen anyone with a tune race on the type s yet. I know the hondata is saying 400 and 440 torque. This type s doesn't have that, it would be eating that genesis if so. Either way, these are Dad cars, not sports cars.
@@Mike-lt6sj I watched this video when it was published last year.. I wasn't sure at the time but God just told me now that gold Type-S was not stock. He said it had just a tune. Don't know what tune exactly, but it was putting out more power than what stock Type-S puts out. If the race was done with stock that G70 would be pulling bus lengths on the Type-S. The stock G70 (RWD version) can do 12.9s and trap at 110 mph, showroom stock. The Type-S doesn't trap like that. If the race was to half mile or 1 mile the result will be horrendous for the Type-S.
@@noobz5056 Well, if they made a rwd version of the type s, that might be more interesting. Fair enough, the G70 is faster. If I buy this acura, mine will probably be a touch quicker.
Both are perfect cars 👌😍
These videos are great but I'd love to see comparison in handling and tracking times, etc. For those complaining about less power on the Acura, I'm sure very soon we'll be able to JB4 it and get it up to the standard ish of 415 whp on most twin turbos after installing a piggy back tune.
Every type s owner trying to race: "Monica! Nooooo!"
BWAHAHAHA! :-D
My 07 type s will smoke both lol
@@madeinphi3521 Probably will honestly. I drove one already. Pretty underwhelming. Just too damn heavy and you can tell the tune is super reserved.
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Probably the lack of real boost building in the G makes it slower off the line but then yeah physics kicks in
Great video 👍
The poor off the line is due to the transmission tuning. A TCU tune can fix that but will void the warranty. I have a 2022 G70 3.3T Launch Edition AWD and was looking into it. They tune it conservatively so they can offer a longer warranty.
Poor Acura. They never seem to get it completely locked in
Tuners will fix that
@@elijahdobson7111 most likely but they shouldn’t have too lol Honda too soft I love them but they play it safe too much
@@elijahdobson7111 they need to HURRY UP!!!!!
Still a Acura🤣🤣
bruhman Jonesss, reality tells a different story...Honda’s sell extremely well because your desire for breakneck acceleration is not what actually sells cars. Honda knows this and empowers thisevtuners out there to hack the power to the moon on Honda’s very strong engine blocks.
This video really makes me want to get that 2017 Infiniti Q50 Red Sport.
I respect that you’re doing car reviews many aren’t. But if you’re going to take up a chunk of video for the intro. Get the camera work on par with the overall vid quality! I have been watching your videos a lot lately. Much love from Minnesota!
Sam post this tomorrow, come on you can’t make us wait till the 10th! That’s 2 whole days from now
Damn ! I had high hopes for the Type S. Seems like 410hp would’ve compensated for the weight difference !! Acura, fix it !
✨🥇Genesis, excellent work as usual 🥇✨
Where did you get 410hp? Lol
@@JohnLee-db9zt random number !
Its just a shame they gave the last RLX model with 377hp and made this less. Doesnt make sense
@@jjgonzales2862 All about counting beans.
enjoy watching your video👍
Thank you!
I like the pairing of these races.
for the price of the genesis 3.3t AWD and also the Stinger GT2 AWD... there's nothing messing with them. $50k-$52k I wouldn't buy the TLX type S. no pano sunroof, lousey interface non touch screen and not even the rear seats are heated or have any charging ports. I wanna see the civic type R on a roll race vs the type S. the transmission on the type S is hurting lol
@Catholic Firefighter give it another 1 or 2 yrs the stinger will.be discontinued
@@tonychau1983 just as well as a lot of other cars not like electric cars are going anywhere
@@tonychau1983 crazy cuz it’s being discontinued rn😂
@@jgrant2064 its been confirmed?
These aren't exactly new engines from competitors. Acura knew competitor specs and still somehow loses? What are they doing?
Exactly my thoughts.... Huge let down
@hon solo These are all opinions. Take it easy.
Genesis G70 is a beast. I love the front design of the Acura though
Maybe test the TLX Type S against the Stinger GT2 Scorpion? Would they be similar curb weight?
the races are really good but it would be even better if you measured in both cars with GPS with dragy or something like that
I'm so done with Acura. After the 2004-2008, they went to the curb. Oil consumption issues, poor design, and now no increased horsepower. I've owned the 04 TL which was love, still driving my 2010 TL SH-AWD both 6 speed manual transmission. I'm over the fact I can't get a manual shift vehicle 😒
Girl if i was close to u I'll give u a handshake and a hug
I love you
@@hdavey72 You are crazy 🤣
Yes ma’am!!! Car girls rock!!😍😝 2010 TL is my favorite car. I have 2003 TL (none type s)🙄
@@blazingsynth4314 I've always liked the TL. It has evolved but with issues the later models began to experience along with removal of the manual transmission; I'm done.
I'm thinking it's a combination of several small things, obviously the lighter weight, greater hp/torque numbers, but I bet the twins on the Genesis are selected for more mid to top end than the Type-S. Acura can't have a twin V-6 that costs a fraction of the NSX prancing around the dealerships though.
That was a great race and I do like both cars, but Genesis has just *been killing it* with this latest generation of vehicles, along with the Stinger, of course!
Dang that’s impressive from the underdogs Genesis. They’re doing a great job over there beating rivals
Genesis is aiming high. They say their rivals are the German 3, nevermind the Japanese.
Both are beautiful cars. I'd probably go Genesis. But Stinger GT1 just is such a killer value.
What make the stinger the best bet for me is the interior room and cargo is way more than anything in class
If you plan on trading that g70 before it hits 50000 miles I’d say go for it. If you want it to last over 500000 miles go for the Acura. Hyundai/Kia falls into the realm of really un reliable cars.
@@jacobrael9872 It's just an unattractive vehicle and also is an economy car manufacturer. Most people buying in this segment aren't looking for an economy car, so genesis and kia aren't on the list.
Me and my buddy were just talking about this. As happy as we were about the type s coming back it just didn't deliver like we expected. The kia stinger and g70 are lighter, have more power , and came out of left field swinging above its weight. The type s needs a weight reduction and 400+ horsepower so it could compete. Hopefully when they start tuning the type s it delivers the Honda/acura known power everyone wants.
Let’s just put it this way. Being a fairly new company, Genesis has made an amazing car. Considering that the Type S has been around for a couple decades.
And to be honest I just love the looks of the G70 better (IMO)
My dad has a 2010 Hyundai Genesis sedan with 300,000+km and it’s still running strong.
Lovely video. Closer than I thought considering the Type S is brand spanking new! Would love to see a retest of the Type S after the break in period. These turbo Honda engines open up noticeably after some mileage (not to mention better gas mileage).
The g70 is brand new too lol
@@Tsand4 hence a retest. :)
@@iforyou if they both break in would be the same result presumably
@@Tsand4 depends. The Genesis may pull an even bigger gap, or the tlx may close the gap. Some cars open up more then others.
@@iforyou idk about the TLX never drove one. But I do have a stinger and from doing runs With 500 miles on odometer vs fully broken in shaves .2 off 1/4 mile
500 miles on dragy 12.95
1500 miles on dragy 12.78-12.8
We all want to see a q50 RS vs a Type-S. That’s the golden race everyone is waiting for I think.
That would be unfair. As a 2016 q50 rs owner Id make dog meat out of the type s. As a loyal Honda fan and Honda owner I was hoping for a 400 hp twin turbo output on the type s. Honda owners are left to make those numbers at their own expense. Kinda knew Honda was gonna short change us in the hp numbers and placing a single Mitsubishi turbo instead. Honda’s “earth dreams” mantra is what seals that fate. No v8 and never will be offered. Killed the v10 in the 2nd gen nsx with a v6 twin Mitsubishi made turbo setup. Will stick to my baby gtr vr30ddtt even though it ain’t reliable like a Honda. At least it has billet made turbos. Nissan ftw.
Pretty sure a 300HP Q50/Q60 would beat this TLX-S, I was hoping for more, but the RS Q50/Q60 are significantly faster than this TLX-S.
Why, when the Q50RS has already beat the G70 in an earlier video by this same guy?
@@jeraldhogan exactly. So why not see how much faster it would be against the type-s ? There’s no video of it that I can find. So why not find out here? The Tlx-s main competitor is the Is500 and the q50 rs. It would be cool to watch.
I have a 2017 Q50 3.0T and this thing moves out...I think it will eat the Type S.
Those first 2 gears in Honda/Acura's 10-Speed are outstanding
Hey Sam if you can do this race just to see how far the Type S has come can you race the 2008 Type S vs the 2022 Type S. It will be cool to see how much better the new one is thanks. Keep up the amazing work.
I will
Poor Acura, you are too heavy for this one.
It's so embarrassing, imagination pulling up with such a beautiful car only to get walked by all its competitors...it's like MAKEUPS
@@JohnCena-jb3yp nah, it's still a sexy car at the end of the day. It's just not a 1/4 mile car
@@slipknotron1626 any car can be sexy, when u add on some body kits, this is car is like one of those instagram model, hot asf on instagram with all the make-up but ugly asf under the make-up and can't perform....so basically a ricer
@@JohnCena-jb3yp 🤣🤣🤣
@@slipknotron1626
Acura has no problem but g70 mostly has drop down in its power ... G70 should be stronger than its performance.
Great video Sam, as per usual. Will you be getting your hands on a GV70 (2.5 preferably)? If so, would be nice to have it against an RDX. Thanks from Toronto.
The GV70 would take the TLX to Gapplebees for the first date
The g70 is stunning im in love
TLX Type S heavier. Do you get something for that in durability, equipment, safety etc? May be its heavier for a reason? I'd appreciate some educated feedback. I am considering one of these to buy.
Hyundai are really kicking butt with this platform!!
I would like to see how they do on a road course. I live in the mountain area and like a spirited drive on twisty roads more often then not. That's what the Type-S was built for. On paper I could already see that the G70 was going to win. but Paper can't tell you how well a suspension and related controls are dialed in.
Type s for sure
Yuri and jacob said it feels like m340i
Moving 4,221 lbs up a mountain road is not a walk in the park
Another great race. Where are you from Sam?
Can you change to different modes while you’re driving? On both cars
Acura and Genesis, the only two luxury brands I care about at the moment.
What about Daewoo? They make some fine automobiles.
The Cadillac CT4/CT5 are all over these for the driver! Cost less too!
Never put a Korean brand 🤮car with the word luxury in a same sentence.. Korean cars🙄 are garbage and they had a bad stigma attached to them.. Most Will roll their eyes when you tell them you drive one🙄
@@charlesjackson1700 why would i care about what people think of my drive? The car speaks for itself, 65k miles on my stinger and drives like when i bought it with 6 miles on the ODO, do i give a fuck about what people think even though all i get is compliments on the car? You re the reason there is "stigma" for any car brand, you cant accept when an automaker has progress. Probably a teenager without a car or a job that read on some forum that korean cars are bad. Get out to the real world
@@charlesjackson1700 Clearly there is some self esteem issues going on here.
Type s bout to get washed again lmaoo
I was hoping to see the Stinger vs the type S but the Genesis is close enough :-) Great video. Thx
The Stinger is quicker than the G70...lol
You really want to see that beatdown?
Did you use launch control in the last run? (holding down brake and accelerator initially)
Yes yes yes
Well, after all, nice balanced vehicle it's not only about straight 0-60 time
The Honda fanboys already in their feelings from that S4 video.
After the G70 drags that ass, line it up with the 2.0T Accord sport and a K5 GT so we can put it to bed lol
And the M340i. That car will absolutely destroy it.
@@HorrisPMcTitties The new M340i is a freak of nature. I'm just waiting for the 2 series to get the updated B58 so I can make more dumb financial decisions. 😂
Just wait till the Type R 2022 comes out
Glad to see my theory about the Acura was correct. I’m a q50 rs owner. I watched that race as well. For the price of the Acura you would think it had more balls. 🤷🏽♂️
I know the 9 speedi s around now, but if Infiniti can get it in the new gen it going to be quicker, as it the same transmission in the Mercedes.
I think with the popularity of the g70 we forger that Genesis has both the G80 and G90 out there as well which are very fast as well.
Acura this is just pathetic. Lexus and Acura are resting on their laurels when the only selling point is the unquantifiable “projected” reliability. The TLX Type S is embarrassing. We can’t even say that it’s the practical/pragmatic or value-oriented choice because of how pathetic the rear seat leg room is for the second row, AND the overinflated/expensive price tag!
I thought it would be way faster or at lease compete with others in its class.....it's a disappointment Acura...SMH
Why did they use the ugliest cheap looking analog gauges too? It’s going on 2022. Those gauges look like they belong in some old Subaru WRX or EVO from the 90s or early 2000s. There’s so much disappointing stuff about the TLX.
With all the negatives you pointed out, why did you buy the car that just came out?
@@briangasser973 he bought one?
@Tony Dinh Acura have better resell than what? Acura has been on death’s door for the past 10 years. The worst car I’ve ever owned was an Accord 2.0T Touring, the 10-speed transmission is trash.
Great one as expected. Type S will lose. I was expecting Stinger race. Can you do this one. Pig vs pig weight.
What was Acura thinking, you would think they would at least make it mid pack in acceleration oh well props to Genesis for giving them a proper flogging.
Is that G70 a launch edition?! Cause the interior says it is but the exterior says it's not.
G70 for the win!
Well done Genesis, although it was a lot closer than what the power-to-weight ratio would have you believe.
I think the 8 speed auto in the G70 is preventing it from completely steamrolling the Type S. Genesis has made much improvements to the transmission for the new G80. Hopefully the transmission updates will be added to the next G70.
I like these straight line drag type of races but can we see how the car is really handling around a track or a lap like lap times car noise handling overstear and things like that I thing most of the cars you test have more potential than goin in the straight line .
I can already see the type s in a ditch
The tuning potential with that twin turbo tho, most likely squeeze more power than a tune with the type s then the weight will play even more of a role than it already does
Love the new Acura tlx