Genesis has some amazing vehicles, i don't see them slowing down . Hyundai Corp really turned it self into a major car tyrant. Great video as always sam. 👍🏼
@Layne I own 2 hyundais and 2 Genesis and they have been far much more reliable than the German cars ive own or any other car I've own at that ,so I can't agree with you there. Those 4 cars have not got me stuck or stranded not one. That's my personal experience.
@@frankkristof8859 yeah excellent. Let me asking deciding between a g80 2.5t and a gv70 2.5t , what do you think is a good choice and which do you think is a little faster ?
@@frankkristof8859 is the g80 faster because its lighter ? Yes i know but the g80 doesnt offer ambient lighting in the interior, the gv70 does. And slightly different interiors. Which ones has been selling more ?
Fantastic drag race. The Cadillac seems a lot louder than the Genesis. I bet myself a fountain soda that the Cadillac would win because the 2.7l is new and has boat loads of torque. I lost, but still buying a fountain soda.
That 4-banger in the caddy is pretty impressive, 380 lb ft of torque is nuts. I have the exact same G70 color/trim except RWD. For $40k (circle pricing), it was a no brainer. Shame the weather wasn’t sunny. Colors would really pop for both models.
Was it just me or did I see an ingen intake under the Genesis? If so that would tell me that it's not stock....stock vs stock is what I thought this was.....but no mention of them being stock...curious to know
@@vroomgc yepp! I wish they kept the older nomenclature of just Vsport for the lower ones and just V for the fastest... I do like the name blackwing but maybe could have had a more track focused version called that... lol..
It isn't really a "V" series. I have the same turbo 4 in my Buick Regal Premium II ; it is quick, but it is no "V". I think Cadillac just stuck that "V" on the CT4 label just to promote / induce sales of that car; piggy-backing off of the CTS-V image. That is a risky strategy for any product brand, utilizing a recognizable respected label to promote sales while delivering a watered down product standard of that label. It will likely end up degrading the image.
@@MrGreenelight You don't have the same turbo 4, unless you swapped engines. The CT4 V has a 2.7t not a 2.0t. The 2.0t creates 250 hp with 260 lb-ft of tq. The CT4 V creates anywhere from 309 to 325 hp and up to 430 lb-ft of tq. Depending on which vehicle you get. The turbos are not even the same. The 2.7t has a dual volute turbo whereas the 2.0t has a twin scroll turbo.
@@lgz2006 yeah, I know you didn't, but people who watch this channel, they hate Korean cars! There's a comment saying that Sam is paid to make the Korean cars wins!
To be honest this is embarrassing for Caddy before someone say engine size bullsh*t the G70 have better interior , options , faster , better design and above that the genesis as a company are better in daily use they ranked above Caddy in trim of less issues while used so i don't know why would anyone will take this Caddy over any car in it's segment not only this one but ALL Cadillacs are waaay behind the competition all of them have cheap low quality and outdated interior ((the only Great Cadillac currently is the Escalade it's sooo good that it maybe the best 7 seats car i ever see in front of me))
@@lakb2482 yes compared to most 4 door sedans. I wouldn't recommend the G70 if you want your rear passengers to feel spacious. The G80 gives you a little more room in the back a little more horsepower to compensate the larger size car
Personally coming from 09,10 & 12 4.6 v8 genesis. I wasn't even entertaining the 3.3t. Thought I'd go r-spec in the newer models until I had to move a 3.3t awd advanced.. BLEW MY MIND.. Let's just say I was on a few over night test drives .. I also have the dealerships fuel cell key.. Probably put in 1,500 miles over a weekend between Orlando & St. Augustine lmao 🤣
@@t.ferris4101 that's good to hear. The G70 was certainly a major upgrade for me but I truly don't know how it compares to other modern cars in its class.
If we're to pick one has to be the G70!! But the CTS 4 looks nice 👍!! Quite ride cause 2.7 vs. 3.3 it's huge difference and the G weights almost 200 pounds More and 2 gears less the the CTS 4 is impressive Great Sam.
Awesome race. These cars are VERY close in terms of dimensions (with the exception of weight), so I dunno why some people are saying this wasn't a good match. They are both compact luxury sedans. The results don't surprise me, as the Genesis/Stinger's 3.3 turbo 6 is apparently under rated on power and torque. I'm actually surprised the Cadillac kept up in some instances. Would love to see a Kia Stinger versus CT5-V (non-blackwing) if you can get them together. Both of those cars have relatively similar dimensions as well. The CT5-V has more torque officially, but again the Stinger seems to be underrated from factory so I wouldn't be surprised if it actually had more torque.
Idk what you mean by saying that the G70s engine is underrated. This engine has been out since the last gen. It's performance is well known. A race between a Stinger & a CT5-V would theoretically be the same as the Genesis G70 and the Stinger GT2 share the same engine and trans but the Stinger is slightly heavier. Unless you're talking about the 4 cyl Stinger, the results won't be much of a difference.
@@mutualdecline2174 When I say underrated, I mean it in the literal sense. It makes more power than Genesis/Kia claims. Go look up stock dynos for the G70 and Stinger. The car is making more torque to the wheels than advertised. Some dynos show more hp to the wheels too, but the torque is definitely underrated. The advertised numbers are at the crank, but the cars are making that much torque (i.e. 370-ish) to the wheels. I think you have underrated confused with underestimated.
@@Maljey Bro all manufacturers cite "engine crank HP"...Dyno's on the other hand measure HP from the wheels which are always higher than when measured from the crank. This engine has been out for more than 6 yrs. The only car manufacturer in this segment that has underrated its performance numbers is the BMW M340i which is a b58 inline 6 that has higher crank, higher wheel hp & faster 0-60 than what BMW actually claimed. Genesis performance claims & their 0-60 claim was always accurate and considering that they're trying to pull consumers from BMW, Mercedes & audi as the new kid on the block, it would be illogical to underrated any aspect of their cars
@@mutualdecline2174 nah dude. Seriously go look up stock dynos for the Stinger and G70 turbo 6 engines. Their wheel torque is putting out the same numbers as the advertised crank torque. So Kia/Genesis has underrated the crank torque number. It doesn't matter if it's a smart move by them. It's what they decided to do. They are doing the same as BMW and Audi.
@@Maljey What I would suggest u do is Google the difference between wheel & crank torque and if they ever produce the same numbers. It also appears that u have a misunderstanding of what a dyno actually is. A dyno test circumvents a cars computer to unlock various levels of of power that was restricted from factory. There are stages to dyno's as far as how much psi u want to unlock & can be doing without any mods. U get the most out of engines that are turbocharged. This is probably what you're confusing the manufacturer numbers with. I'm very well aware of how dyno shops work & I'm very well aware of Stinger mods like jb4 & they're dyno tests. The g70/Stinger specs has been well known to the performance community for 5+ yrs. No dyno test involving these cars are new
Great comparison! I expected more from the G70 but I don't think it's designed for hard driving. Surprising how noisy the Caddy is or does it have the sound pumped through the audio? The price difference is ridiculous, 1K in the US, 8K, how does that make sense? Both very nice rides.
It’s not pumped as far as I’m aware. I saw one in person Cadillac just did a nice job with the exhaust in the ct4 and 5 v. I checked out the ct5 v and it had a nice growl for a v6 and the ct4 v as you saw as well has a nice growl.
In the quarter mile, through REAL testing not a fun little casual TH-cam video, the Cadillac runs a 13.2 and the Genesis runs a 13.1 Only a 0.1s difference..
The G70 is currently on my shopping list for which new car I wanna buy, but I would love to see the new 2022 Audi S3 vs the G70 3.3T to make a final decision.
@@jordynhixson655 idk honestly I love Audi but I feel like in long term ownership the genesis will hold up better mechanically . Im no expert just from research I’m looking at getting a sport sedan sometime next year so I been digging
Neither of these cars are gonna be reliable or cheap to own in any regard. If you want reliability get a Camry TRD or a civic type r an accord with the V6 idk about the newer 2.0t ones
@@donbaird3826 stinger might be fun and quick but will cost tons to own in the long run so only the wealthy own them. Reliability has never been good with Kia and Hyundai even if they have improved a lot
@@TheRealStevenSeagals You are still living in the past and u may update your mind software. .. toyota now is compared to china cars quality while Korean cars to Germany cars.
To be honest the G70 sounds quite insulated and you hear less engine noise, but it’s about time kia/genesis refresh that engine for more power. If they can push it to 400hp it’s gonna be really good
Not if the governments of the world don’t update the electrical power grids. It’s not sustainable at the moment. So this will be a repeat of the 70’s when muscle cars were supposed to be ended for good. We all know how that turned out. There are documentaries all over the web explaining why the world isn’t ready for full electrification. Car manufacturers can stop producing sports cars but for all the ones people already have… we will be enjoying our rides for years to come either way it goes. And gas stations aren’t going anywhere any time soon. Go watch a documentary because I’m not asking anyone reading this to believe me. All the facts are there.
Yah they leave a lot on the table with the 3.3. But they tune it down for warranty purposes since they offer a 100000 mile warranty. But a simple plug in tune will bump the turbos from 11psi to almost 20, on 93 octane and push 420hp and 450 lb ft of torque with 0 mods
I have a 2022 3.3t sport prestige and trust me in sport + when the valves of the exhaust open the up shift pops are very noticeable in the cabin and outside its louder than you think. you can hear them very well in the cabin and especially with windows down or on a back road. Not to mention when the exhaust gets hot or its a hot day the pops are a bit louder :). But again genesis is not making the exhaust like an m340i 2020 with all the burbles because the g70 doesn't attract that target market of buyers for that type of exhaust
@@roboticvenom1935 I mean specifically with the 3.3tt. I have a Stinger and can say firsthand that the acceleration really picks up in the turbo powerband.
GM is making good power out of that turbo 4...Too bad they still can't make a 4cyl that does not sound like a coffee bean grinder. In a Cadillac it just sounds wrong.
I’d take the Cadillac because although both cars actively have recalls on them only the Genesis has one where the antilock brake system could short circuit and cause a fire. Edit : even though the Korean automakers Kia and Hyundai have taken designers from top auto manufacturers like Audi and BMW they continue to use sub par parts and have been plagued with 5.8 million recalls over the last few years due to engine fires.
@@byronnasem4110 a simple google will show that almost every car made by Kia and Genesis have active recalls on them. Edit: it’s one of the same recalls on the Kia Stinger but the Kia stinger has a total of 3 recalls .
Cadillac may be slightly slower but the Caddie has so much more character than the Genesis. I bet the Cadillac may be a little slower but has a way better chassis. I’d still take the CT4 V. Looks like a bad ass daily. Would love to see the base 4cyl Supra against the Gold R, Elantra N, or Civic Type R. See is the base Supra is the hottest 4 cylinder that nobody is talking about.
@Cody Underwood I cross shopped both CT5V and g70 both fully loaded. The CT5V was nice and roomier especially in the second row but g70 was a little nicer (interior) but cramped in second row…especially if you’re a taller person like 5’10 or taller (I’m 5’7 and my family is shorter than me so backseat works for us). They both drove similar which is saying a lot especially for g70 cause CT5V has the magnetic ride. On paper g70 is faster in both 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile if I’m not mistaken. I pulled the trigger on g70 cause Genesis was willing to negotiate more than Cadillac. If you test drive g70 make sure it’s 3.3t engine with sport prestige package cause it includes Brembo brakes, LSD and active dampers. FYI I got my 2023 g70 3.3 RWD with both sport prestige and advanced packages for $58K and that’s fully loaded. The CT5V was $70K fully loaded! ✌🏼
The ct4 runs a 13.2 and the genesis runs a 13.1 no way in hell did it lose by that much.....lol something seems fishy on this channel whenever anything is matched against a Hyundai or kia.
G70s only run that in magazines because of there fake launch control. They trap way 108-109 wayhigher then ct4. G70/stinger do 12.8 easy in the 1/4 all day even with fake launch control.
I think its because ct4v runs a 13.2 in the 1/4 rear wheel drive only. This car being used is an awd which is both slower than the rwd version and heavier. The 3616 curb weight is actually for rwd and awd is more like 3780 so almost same weight.
The Hyundai, Kia, Genesis fanboys want to be the IT guys sooo badly it’s cringeworthy. My goodness, you can tell this was all the ego-boost and push of confidence that they truly needed to get through another month’s payment. Yikes! Bragging about a modded V6 beating a 4-banger. Cadillac is laughing. This is embarrassing for Genesis (or whichever BMW engineer built the thing🤷🏽♂️).
Another Hyundai ass whipping! Showing established brands and customers it needs to be taken seriously or suffer the humiliation of getting passed by one! Go Hyundai!
Did you use launch control from the dig? Not sure it would have made any difference at all thou. The TT ct4 BW on the otherhand may provide differemt results. But pricewise the V serirs seems more of the contender. Maybe you can find a G70 with their base 2.5T motor and race again? Seems more of an similar comparison a 2.5t vs 2.7t?
To be honest this is embarrassing for Caddy before someone say engine size bullsh*t the G70 have better interior , options , faster , better design and above that the genesis as a company are better in daily use they ranked above Caddy in trim of less issues while used so i don't know why would anyone will take this Caddy over any car in it's segment not only this one but ALL Cadillacs are waaay behind the competition all of them have cheap low quality and outdated interior ((the only Great Cadillac currently is the Escalade it's sooo good that it maybe the best 7 seats car i ever see in front of me))
In the quarter mile, through REAL testing not a fun little casual TH-cam video, the Cadillac runs a 13.2 and the Genesis runs a 13.1 Only a 0.1s difference
Give data in table side be side we can better analizę than whats happen 👌🏻no surprise Here those haeVier car have better power to weight ratio so it pulllsharder 👊🏻 despite it have lesstorq offcorse 👌🏻but gearbox in auto mode have slowerkickdown 👌🏻thats why from rolll it stand behind be moment but after this when kickdown and start use more power than its bye bye 😎👊🏻👌🏻
To be honest this is embarrassing for Caddy before someone say engine size bullsh*t the G70 have better interior , options , faster , better design and above that the genesis as a company are better in daily use they ranked above Caddy in trim of less issues while used so i don't know why would anyone will take this Caddy over any car in it's segment not only this one but ALL Cadillacs are waaay behind the competition all of them have cheap low quality and outdated interior ((the only Great Cadillac currently is the Escalade it's sooo good that it maybe the best 7 seats car i ever see in front of me))
I've driven both these cars. The CT4-V has the better transmission and suspension. It feels like a sports car. The 3.3T has a more floaty suspension. The aesthetic design of the G70 is better but the materials are about equal. Both use good quality leather and the seats in both are really good. The fully digital display in the Cadillac is better. The G70 (3.3T) is also about 10k more. Get the CT4-V if you want a sport car with some luxury, get the G70 if you want a luxury car with some sport.
@@Soul_Flow_ listen again. Maybe the owner had something loose rolling around in the cabin, but there definitely seemed to be more cabin noise in the G70.
You have no business doing these videos. Why would you put a 4 banger up against a 3.3 6 unless you are being paid by someone to sway stupids that don’t know any better ? Ridiculous !
Sorry but the driver of that Genesis sucks. Don’t want to be rude but it’s true. Swap seats and it wouldn’t have even been a race worth comparing as there wouldn’t have been a comparison. Genesis clear winner even with a crappy Genesis driver
The Caddy is nice...but no question I'd take the Genny G70. Perfect blend of styling, performance, handling, quality, tech and amazing warranty to boot. The price savings is just gravy. I might even take it over the C-Class and 3 Series given the reliability might be better with Genesis.. Awesome vid as always..
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2019 G70 3.3T owner here. You have to launch it hard. Good race :)
2022 has a launch mode. I'm uncertain if the driver was actually using it.
Yup n they will go
One feature that took me by surprise is the active support in the drivers seat. Thought the dealer was getting friendly 😉
Is there any way to rev it higher than 2k on launch control?
3.3T is no joke, but for a boosted 4banger in the Caddy. Props.
I wanna see the Integra v other cars from its range. And the Golf R 2023 and its rivals
Ya it is impressive
@@moe.moe.codgamer5125 All 3 of those would be a sick combination, I'd be interested to see the CT4V vs new Golf R
@@moe.moe.codgamer5125 integra is lame and slow. It gets DUMPED on by rivals, Honda can't keep up
@@gabrielgiron4273 yea the new Golf r is faster than ever I think.
Genesis has some amazing vehicles, i don't see them slowing down . Hyundai Corp really turned it self into a major car tyrant. Great video as always sam. 👍🏼
@@CyberSkunk90 everything is inflated here right now.
@@CyberSkunk90 With pretty much this entire federal government in place, honestly, they are entirely garbage.
@Layne I own 2 hyundais and 2 Genesis and they have been far much more reliable than the German cars ive own or any other car I've own at that ,so I can't agree with you there. Those 4 cars have not got me stuck or stranded not one. That's my personal experience.
@@layne4376 way better than mercedes, audi, or bmw
Unfortunately, there won't be a next gen G70.
Both cars are my love 🤗
But if i choose i will get G70
Nice video Sam ♥️
Really cool race!
I just got new Genesis g70 3.3t Sport prestige. Absolutely love it. I traded my Mercedes C class in for it. No regrets!
Smart choice
@@mikexcanxjerk I work for Genesis so it wasn't a very difficult choice to make :)
@@frankkristof8859 yeah excellent. Let me asking deciding between a g80 2.5t and a gv70 2.5t , what do you think is a good choice and which do you think is a little faster ?
Well, one is a sedan the other one is an suv, so it depends on your preference. The g80 is faster.. They're both a great choice.
@@frankkristof8859 is the g80 faster because its lighter ? Yes i know but the g80 doesnt offer ambient lighting in the interior, the gv70 does. And slightly different interiors. Which ones has been selling more ?
Stinger/Genesis best car for Money
Usually, but not always mate.
Fantastic drag race. The Cadillac seems a lot louder than the Genesis. I bet myself a fountain soda that the Cadillac would win because the 2.7l is new and has boat loads of torque. I lost, but still buying a fountain soda.
😂
The Genesis is a luxury sedan, not a sport sedan, it wasn't tuned for loud exhausts
Cadillac lost.
@@applerider4205 yesh ur correct :D
The 3.3t is underrated at 375 tq. It makes over 400.
ELANTRA N VS GENESIS 3.3T AWD NEXT SAMMY? PLEASE AND THANKS FOR ANOTHER GOOD COMPARISON.
? They are in different class,
That 4-banger in the caddy is pretty impressive, 380 lb ft of torque is nuts. I have the exact same G70 color/trim except RWD. For $40k (circle pricing), it was a no brainer. Shame the weather wasn’t sunny. Colors would really pop for both models.
40k?? Where the hell u getting that ?? Round here they start at 45/50k….wanted one but at that price range….u can get a m340i or wide body scat pack…
@@djzulumask2138 circle pricing aka employee/relations discount.
@@ApexClubRacer oh luckyyy
@@djzulumask2138 😂😂😂
For a 4 banger, the not-so-light Caddy keeps up pretty well to a higher-performance Twin Turbo V6. I'm impressed with both vehicles!
Genesis and 3.3T Twin turbo V6 power!. 💪🏻😎
Was it just me or did I see an ingen intake under the Genesis? If so that would tell me that it's not stock....stock vs stock is what I thought this was.....but no mention of them being stock...curious to know
That Caddy is not deserving of the “V” name.
gotta add that "blackwing" to the end... then i'd have it :D
@@vipeboy2003 Yes the blackwing would easily take it.. which is the replacement name for the older -v models that Learningfast is referring to.
@@vroomgc yepp! I wish they kept the older nomenclature of just Vsport for the lower ones and just V for the fastest... I do like the name blackwing but maybe could have had a more track focused version called that... lol..
It isn't really a "V" series. I have the same turbo 4 in my Buick Regal Premium II ; it is quick, but it is no "V".
I think Cadillac just stuck that "V" on the CT4 label just to promote / induce sales of that car; piggy-backing off of the CTS-V image.
That is a risky strategy for any product brand, utilizing a recognizable respected label to promote sales while delivering a watered down product standard of that label. It will likely end up degrading the image.
@@MrGreenelight
You don't have the same turbo 4, unless you swapped engines. The CT4 V has a 2.7t not a 2.0t. The 2.0t creates 250 hp with 260 lb-ft of tq. The CT4 V creates anywhere from 309 to 325 hp and up to 430 lb-ft of tq. Depending on which vehicle you get. The turbos are not even the same. The 2.7t has a dual volute turbo whereas the 2.0t has a twin scroll turbo.
Genesis is awesome, especially that V6 Twin Turbo. Oh my God it's quick, the reliability is a 10. Exterior and interior is beautiful!
Good race. I love the G70 :)
That look in his eyes was like a NOS button. Instant boost.
Man, that Genesis look vastly different than the Cadillac! Beautiful car, dare I say!
No shit?
Oh people gonna get mad!!
@@roboticvenom1935 The Cadillac looks awesome too!
@@hasanfadhil6404 are you sure I did criticise the Cadillac?
@@lgz2006 yeah, I know you didn't, but people who watch this channel, they hate Korean cars!
There's a comment saying that Sam is paid to make the Korean cars wins!
G70 looks sexy AF tho
So does the Cadillac.
@@roboticvenom1935 no!
CT4-V. Chip it. Problem solved if you just need more power.
Same could be said for the genesis
@@Bolero6879 Sure. Both are great choices IMHO.
To be honest this is embarrassing for Caddy before someone say engine size bullsh*t the G70 have better interior , options , faster , better design and above that the genesis as a company are better in daily use they ranked above Caddy in trim of less issues while used so i don't know why would anyone will take this Caddy over any car in it's segment not only this one but ALL Cadillacs are waaay behind the competition all of them have cheap low quality and outdated interior ((the only Great Cadillac currently is the Escalade it's sooo good that it maybe the best 7 seats car i ever see in front of me))
Last Fall, I traded in my 2012 Genesis for the 2022 G70 3.3T with Prestige and Sports package. I absolutely love this car!
Is the back seat small ??
@@lakb2482 yes compared to most 4 door sedans. I wouldn't recommend the G70 if you want your rear passengers to feel spacious. The G80 gives you a little more room in the back a little more horsepower to compensate the larger size car
@@jamesruffolo4680 Fosho ! I really like it but the back seat not so much !! Thanks for the info !
Personally coming from 09,10 & 12 4.6 v8 genesis. I wasn't even entertaining the 3.3t. Thought I'd go r-spec in the newer models until I had to move a 3.3t awd advanced..
BLEW MY MIND..
Let's just say I was on a few over night test drives .. I also have the dealerships fuel cell key..
Probably put in 1,500 miles over a weekend between Orlando & St. Augustine lmao 🤣
@@t.ferris4101 that's good to hear. The G70 was certainly a major upgrade for me but I truly don't know how it compares to other modern cars in its class.
Buddy in the Genesis had a sarcastic smirk the whole time 😂 😂
Yeah, I nicknamed him "Ice"..
@@weatherchaser1166 I like it lol
@@weatherchaser1166 ,i like it too
If we're to pick one has to be the G70!! But the CTS 4 looks nice 👍!! Quite ride cause 2.7 vs. 3.3 it's huge difference and the G weights almost 200 pounds More and 2 gears less the the CTS 4 is impressive Great Sam.
I wish caddy would've put the 3.0l ttv6 in this, instead of that 4 banger.
ct4 v blackwing has it
@@SamCarLegion I mean the v6 from the ct5 v should of been in the ct4 v instead.
The black wing uses the older 3.6TT
For the life of me not sure why Cadillac dropped the V6 from the V-Sport for the 4cyl. Seem like a stepped backwards in my opinion.
This channel would be better if it had some half decent drivers. With only around 5 or less races, messing up 1 makes it horrible and not good.
Awesome race. These cars are VERY close in terms of dimensions (with the exception of weight), so I dunno why some people are saying this wasn't a good match. They are both compact luxury sedans. The results don't surprise me, as the Genesis/Stinger's 3.3 turbo 6 is apparently under rated on power and torque. I'm actually surprised the Cadillac kept up in some instances.
Would love to see a Kia Stinger versus CT5-V (non-blackwing) if you can get them together. Both of those cars have relatively similar dimensions as well. The CT5-V has more torque officially, but again the Stinger seems to be underrated from factory so I wouldn't be surprised if it actually had more torque.
Idk what you mean by saying that the G70s engine is underrated. This engine has been out since the last gen. It's performance is well known. A race between a Stinger & a CT5-V would theoretically be the same as the Genesis G70 and the Stinger GT2 share the same engine and trans but the Stinger is slightly heavier. Unless you're talking about the 4 cyl Stinger, the results won't be much of a difference.
@@mutualdecline2174 When I say underrated, I mean it in the literal sense. It makes more power than Genesis/Kia claims. Go look up stock dynos for the G70 and Stinger. The car is making more torque to the wheels than advertised. Some dynos show more hp to the wheels too, but the torque is definitely underrated. The advertised numbers are at the crank, but the cars are making that much torque (i.e. 370-ish) to the wheels.
I think you have underrated confused with underestimated.
@@Maljey Bro all manufacturers cite "engine crank HP"...Dyno's on the other hand measure HP from the wheels which are always higher than when measured from the crank. This engine has been out for more than 6 yrs. The only car manufacturer in this segment that has underrated its performance numbers is the BMW M340i which is a b58 inline 6 that has higher crank, higher wheel hp & faster 0-60 than what BMW actually claimed. Genesis performance claims & their 0-60 claim was always accurate and considering that they're trying to pull consumers from BMW, Mercedes & audi as the new kid on the block, it would be illogical to underrated any aspect of their cars
@@mutualdecline2174 nah dude. Seriously go look up stock dynos for the Stinger and G70 turbo 6 engines. Their wheel torque is putting out the same numbers as the advertised crank torque. So Kia/Genesis has underrated the crank torque number. It doesn't matter if it's a smart move by them. It's what they decided to do. They are doing the same as BMW and Audi.
@@Maljey What I would suggest u do is Google the difference between wheel & crank torque and if they ever produce the same numbers. It also appears that u have a misunderstanding of what a dyno actually is. A dyno test circumvents a cars computer to unlock various levels of of power that was restricted from factory. There are stages to dyno's as far as how much psi u want to unlock & can be doing without any mods. U get the most out of engines that are turbocharged. This is probably what you're confusing the manufacturer numbers with. I'm very well aware of how dyno shops work & I'm very well aware of Stinger mods like jb4 & they're dyno tests. The g70/Stinger specs has been well known to the performance community for 5+ yrs. No dyno test involving these cars are new
Great comparison! I expected more from the G70 but I don't think it's designed for hard driving. Surprising how noisy the Caddy is or does it have the sound pumped through the audio? The price difference is ridiculous, 1K in the US, 8K, how does that make sense? Both very nice rides.
It’s not pumped as far as I’m aware. I saw one in person Cadillac just did a nice job with the exhaust in the ct4 and 5 v. I checked out the ct5 v and it had a nice growl for a v6 and the ct4 v as you saw as well has a nice growl.
My bet is on the G70.
In the quarter mile, through REAL testing not a fun little casual TH-cam video, the Cadillac runs a 13.2 and the Genesis runs a 13.1
Only a 0.1s difference..
The Hyundai had some aftermarket intakes. So maybe not a fair race. 🤔
I also saw the injen intake
would not matter at the end.
G70 has better power to weight ratio so that wouldn't matter. It would still beat the V either way.
This'll be one for the history books!
genesis driver has horrible reaction time
I do
Good to see my Stinger will walk this Caddy.
Walk? Not really
Try the blackwing
Try 80,000 plus.
A properly tuned stinger will keep up with a stock hellcat.
@@donbaird3826 no way in hell I got to see that in person
Hey Sam could you get the CT4-V against the TLX Type S? And great race btw
Think the CT4-V will take a stock Type S.
That should be VERY close
@@MidnightAspec everything takes the Type-S 🤣
The G70 is currently on my shopping list for which new car I wanna buy, but I would love to see the new 2022 Audi S3 vs the G70 3.3T to make a final decision.
Get the genesis
@@GamingWitRad Why do you think so?
@@jordynhixson655 idk honestly I love Audi but I feel like in long term ownership the genesis will hold up better mechanically . Im no expert just from research I’m looking at getting a sport sedan sometime next year so I been digging
@@GamingWitRad Gotcha, thanks for the info bro. I'll definitely take that into consideration
@@jordynhixson655 take audi is better than genesis I buy genesis but it's absolutely shame
I would take the Genesis all day and will have better reliability.
Neither of these cars are gonna be reliable or cheap to own in any regard. If you want reliability get a Camry TRD or a civic type r an accord with the V6 idk about the newer 2.0t ones
Wrong, 2020 stingergt2. You have no clue.
@@donbaird3826 stinger might be fun and quick but will cost tons to own in the long run so only the wealthy own them. Reliability has never been good with Kia and Hyundai even if they have improved a lot
@@TheRealStevenSeagals
You are still living in the past and u may update your mind software. .. toyota now is compared to china cars quality while Korean cars to Germany cars.
@@TheRealStevenSeagals oil changes and clean my air filters is far from expensive. Again, you have no clue.
My friend had a CT4-V but I never got to race it. Would love to see a Q50 RedSport vs CT4-V matchup
If it can't beat this it won't beat an RS.
Q50 runs a 3.0L twin turbo 6. Cadi would lose that as well
G70 is a little modified! Not bad for the CT4
Had a CAI that is all
To be honest the G70 sounds quite insulated and you hear less engine noise, but it’s about time kia/genesis refresh that engine for more power. If they can push it to 400hp it’s gonna be really good
Not if the governments of the world don’t update the electrical power grids. It’s not sustainable at the moment. So this will be a repeat of the 70’s when muscle cars were supposed to be ended for good. We all know how that turned out. There are documentaries all over the web explaining why the world isn’t ready for full electrification.
Car manufacturers can stop producing sports cars but for all the ones people already have… we will be enjoying our rides for years to come either way it goes. And gas stations aren’t going anywhere any time soon.
Go watch a documentary because I’m not asking anyone reading this to believe me. All the facts are there.
Yah they leave a lot on the table with the 3.3. But they tune it down for warranty purposes since they offer a 100000 mile warranty. But a simple plug in tune will bump the turbos from 11psi to almost 20, on 93 octane and push 420hp and 450 lb ft of torque with 0 mods
I have a 2022 3.3t sport prestige and trust me in sport + when the valves of the exhaust open the up shift pops are very noticeable in the cabin and outside its louder than you think. you can hear them very well in the cabin and especially with windows down or on a back road. Not to mention when the exhaust gets hot or its a hot day the pops are a bit louder :). But again genesis is not making the exhaust like an m340i 2020 with all the burbles because the g70 doesn't attract that target market of buyers for that type of exhaust
They been did that. It’s 3.5 TT
Hyundai* not Kia
The moment the turbos kick in, the G70 is gone.
The ct 4 V's turbo doesn't kick in any sooner..
@@roboticvenom1935 I mean specifically with the 3.3tt. I have a Stinger and can say firsthand that the acceleration really picks up in the turbo powerband.
1:55 I spy... an aftermarket Injen short ram dual intake kit, good for an extra 20 rwhp over stock on the 3.3T. Regardless, both very quick sedans.
Yeah, this was a waist of time. One car shouldn't have aftermarket parts and one stock.
I want to see the CT4 V vs. Acura Type S and Elantra N
It's on Sam's channel everything will lose to a kia or Hyundai
@@mattsmith7379 smh steady making conspiracy theories give it up bro u sound dumb lol
Yesssss this is definitely one I needed to see thank you guys!!!!
I can't tell if Sam has the quickest reaction time ever...or if he just always jumps 😁
G70 driver has slow reaction time
He jumps. Does it on most of his races. But Hey, it's his chanel. Put him on a tree and see how it goes.
GM is making good power out of that turbo 4...Too bad they still can't make a 4cyl that does not sound like a coffee bean grinder. In a Cadillac it just sounds wrong.
Genesis/Hyundai is better than same class car of Ford, GM, other American cars now
I’d take the Cadillac because although both cars actively have recalls on them only the Genesis has one where the antilock brake system could short circuit and cause a fire.
Edit : even though the Korean automakers Kia and Hyundai have taken designers from top auto manufacturers like Audi and BMW they continue to use sub par parts and have been plagued with 5.8 million recalls over the last few years due to engine fires.
Source?
@@byronnasem4110 it’s actually all over the internet
@@byronnasem4110 a simple google will show that almost every car made by Kia and Genesis have active recalls on them.
Edit: it’s one of the same recalls on the Kia Stinger but the Kia stinger has a total of 3 recalls .
@@01gtbdaily30 EXCEPT FOR HYUNDAI VELOSTER...THANK GOD...😂
Cadillac may be slightly slower but the Caddie has so much more character than the Genesis. I bet the Cadillac may be a little slower but has a way better chassis. I’d still take the CT4 V. Looks like a bad ass daily. Would love to see the base 4cyl Supra against the Gold R, Elantra N, or Civic Type R. See is the base Supra is the hottest 4 cylinder that nobody is talking about.
Plus it’s cheaper
You have the wrong illusion. Wake up from your dream and see reality.
Cadillac deserves every L they get for attaching a 4 cylinder to their name. GM staying in business is blatantly embarrassing at this point.
Pls Mirage v spark v Versa 🤣😂
Looking at getting a CT5-V, would love to see how the CT5-V compares to that G70, or possibly a Stinger GT or Q50RS
@Cody Underwood I cross shopped both CT5V and g70 both fully loaded. The CT5V was nice and roomier especially in the second row but g70 was a little nicer (interior) but cramped in second row…especially if you’re a taller person like 5’10 or taller (I’m 5’7 and my family is shorter than me so backseat works for us). They both drove similar which is saying a lot especially for g70 cause CT5V has the magnetic ride. On paper g70 is faster in both 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile if I’m not mistaken. I pulled the trigger on g70 cause Genesis was willing to negotiate more than Cadillac. If you test drive g70 make sure it’s 3.3t engine with sport prestige package cause it includes Brembo brakes, LSD and active dampers. FYI I got my 2023 g70 3.3 RWD with both sport prestige and advanced packages for $58K and that’s fully loaded. The CT5V was $70K fully loaded! ✌🏼
Great video but I would’ve love to see the ct5 v serious v6 bi turbo with the with ten speed against the g70
Please do G70 vs CT5-V race soon, so people can decide
The ct4 runs a 13.2 and the genesis runs a 13.1 no way in hell did it lose by that much.....lol something seems fishy on this channel whenever anything is matched against a Hyundai or kia.
G70s only run that in magazines because of there fake launch control. They trap way 108-109 wayhigher then ct4. G70/stinger do 12.8 easy in the 1/4 all day even with fake launch control.
EXACTLY
I think its because ct4v runs a 13.2 in the 1/4 rear wheel drive only. This car being used is an awd which is both slower than the rwd version and heavier. The 3616 curb weight is actually for rwd and awd is more like 3780 so almost same weight.
@@ryansalazan awd g70 is 4000lbs not 3887. So still 200+lb difference.
It’s the new way to “advertise”.
The CT5 V would be a better match to the G70.
Is it not a completely fair comparison as the genesis was modified by the looks of it?
Just a CAI
Was it tuned for the addition of the cai?
@@johnathankramer5715 no not at the time, was worried I would overboost, didn't tho,
I have the jb4, tcu tune now
It really has to be a rocket now! I wish I could afford one, they are beautiful cars
@@johnathankramer5715 yea she moves pretty quick now
The caddy with that boosted 4 did very well almost wanna see the caddy against the tlx type s lol
so im guessing the ct4 v blackwing would be faster
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2021 Genesis g70 looks better to me
Both great cars...the V is a serious competitor even with the 4 banger. Really wish it had the V6 from the CT5-V, tho.
Right! The 5V has closer power numbers to the Genesis.
You can get the ct4-v Blackwing with a TT 3.6 V6.
This is a nice match up!! Keep
It coming !!
CT4 V vs Elantra N please !
The Hyundai, Kia, Genesis fanboys want to be the IT guys sooo badly it’s cringeworthy. My goodness, you can tell this was all the ego-boost and push of confidence that they truly needed to get through another month’s payment. Yikes! Bragging about a modded V6 beating a 4-banger. Cadillac is laughing. This is embarrassing for Genesis (or whichever BMW engineer built the thing🤷🏽♂️).
Would love to see a tuned G70 vs tuned C43, would be the race of the century
Would be up for that, the G70 has a JB4 on now and a tranny tune
Lap3 2.5 ecu.
Another Hyundai ass whipping! Showing established brands and customers it needs to be taken seriously or suffer the humiliation of getting passed by one! Go Hyundai!
I love the Tweed hoodie ;)
Yes sir lol
The proud look of the genesis driver lmao
Is it me or this guy never wins
Did you use launch control from the dig? Not sure it would have made any difference at all thou. The TT ct4 BW on the otherhand may provide differemt results. But pricewise the V serirs seems more of the contender.
Maybe you can find a G70 with their base 2.5T motor and race again? Seems more of an similar comparison a 2.5t vs 2.7t?
Gm gets roasted all the time.
Bring the Integra pls. And bring the Golf R 2023, and compare it to the type r and sti and Elantra N.
I wish i can give you my car to race up against one a like .. i have a Jaguar XKR supercharge ..but am so far away from you ...
To be fair, you need both to be 6 cylinder engine . Maybe, blackwing
The G70 would get smoked by 4 cars
To be honest this is embarrassing for Caddy before someone say engine size bullsh*t the G70 have better interior , options , faster , better design and above that the genesis as a company are better in daily use they ranked above Caddy in trim of less issues while used so i don't know why would anyone will take this Caddy over any car in it's segment not only this one but ALL Cadillacs are waaay behind the competition all of them have cheap low quality and outdated interior ((the only Great Cadillac currently is the Escalade it's sooo good that it maybe the best 7 seats car i ever see in front of me))
@@Mohammed-_-Ali Boy please gtfoh. Cadillac is laughing.
I really thought the V was going to win
In the quarter mile, through REAL testing not a fun little casual TH-cam video, the Cadillac runs a 13.2 and the Genesis runs a 13.1
Only a 0.1s difference
Give data in table side be side we can better analizę than whats happen 👌🏻no surprise Here those haeVier car have better power to weight ratio so it pulllsharder 👊🏻 despite it have lesstorq offcorse 👌🏻but gearbox in auto mode have slowerkickdown 👌🏻thats why from rolll it stand behind be moment but after this when kickdown and start use more power than its bye bye 😎👊🏻👌🏻
To be honest this is embarrassing for Caddy before someone say engine size bullsh*t the G70 have better interior , options , faster , better design and above that the genesis as a company are better in daily use they ranked above Caddy in trim of less issues while used so i don't know why would anyone will take this Caddy over any car in it's segment not only this one but ALL Cadillacs are waaay behind the competition all of them have cheap low quality and outdated interior ((the only Great Cadillac currently is the Escalade it's sooo good that it maybe the best 7 seats car i ever see in front of me))
I've driven both these cars. The CT4-V has the better transmission and suspension. It feels like a sports car. The 3.3T has a more floaty suspension. The aesthetic design of the G70 is better but the materials are about equal. Both use good quality leather and the seats in both are really good. The fully digital display in the Cadillac is better. The G70 (3.3T) is also about 10k more.
Get the CT4-V if you want a sport car with some luxury, get the G70 if you want a luxury car with some sport.
Nice win for the G70. On another note, did anyone else notice the rattling sound coming from the interior of the G70?
nope, Genesis is a better quality built car than Cadillac
@@Soul_Flow_ listen again. Maybe the owner had something loose rolling around in the cabin, but there definitely seemed to be more cabin noise in the G70.
You have no business doing these videos. Why would you put a 4 banger up against a 3.3 6 unless you are being paid by someone to sway stupids that don’t know any better ? Ridiculous !
4 cyl Caddy LOL.
It’s a win win situation witch everyone you choose for the price the Hyundai it’s not bad compared to the caddy 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Sorry but the driver of that Genesis sucks. Don’t want to be rude but it’s true. Swap seats and it wouldn’t have even been a race worth comparing as there wouldn’t have been a comparison. Genesis clear winner even with a crappy Genesis driver
My friend had a v series and I have a sonata N line. He’ll get me from a dig but I feel like after 60 I’ll catch him. Wish me luck.
Fusion sport
2.7l v6 325hp 380lbs of torque. Caddy has a better tranny and weighs less.
Also pls Elantra v Sonata. Base models. I heard the Elantra is faster than the Sonata.
The Caddy is nice...but no question I'd take the Genny G70. Perfect blend of styling, performance, handling, quality, tech and amazing warranty to boot. The price savings is just gravy. I might even take it over the C-Class and 3 Series given the reliability might be better with Genesis.. Awesome vid as always..
Pls Golf R 2023. Or STI s209. Or STI type RA !!
I love my G70! I had a race like this the other day and left the Cadillac in my dust!
are you single?
Did he or she know they where racing, before you make bold statements such as this.
@@Soul_Flow_ of course
@@ItsMe-ri5bt, in which state do you live?
They are so fast they did the quarter mile in 8 minutes, one sounded like a blender with a dying motor. They are both as slow as they are ugly.
I wish you guys bring the CT5 V with V6 that will be Cool tho
Dude u make cadillac look bad i do no understand you!! Go get the blackwing yo videos are very pointless
hyundai😍😍❤
Why not do it with a CT5 V-series? Or did I miss it?
G70 is beautiful just like the GV70.
Yes but this is the g70
@@vroomgc you're right!
@@keoki777 Haha yes but the GV is also nice looking ;)
I'd like to see this Cadillac go up against the K5 GT.
I bet the K5 takes it.
@@keoki777 yeah no it wouldn't win but it'd keep up at the least, if this caddy is holding on with a stinger engine it'll out pace the 2.5t in the k5
Pls Accord v Legacy . And impreza v civic.
Cadillac has a V6 TT WHY choose the 4 cyl totally unfair....
This guy is not good at driving all the cars he drives lose hahahahahaha
Meanwhile in quiet comfort, the G70 eats the caddy. Genesis are great cars.
God save displacement...fuck turbo 4s and civics alike.
Proof positive that leaning forward while driving does not make for a faster car.
What’s a JOKE Cadillac. For that money unreal