A good video to sum up modern UK motorcycling: bimbling about in traffic and through endless built-up areas in 3rd. Then out on the open road, if you ever dared try to enjoy the immensity of power that the Panigale has to offer, you can fall foul of the first speed trap. I've owned Ducatis for over 30 years, but this one would be an endless frustration until I eventually lost my licence. Which might not take long. You're going to have to blur out the speedo if you ever try to really test this thing. It's a lot of money to buy a lot of stuff that you won't ever need or be able to use on the road. Very sad. Biking was a lot more fun in the 90s.
Is the bike too powerful for the road. Of course it is - However, it comes down to the brain sitting on the saddle. Self control - needed in buckets full. The bike is perfect but if it was under my butt on a day to day basis I would probably yield to temptation and give it a squirt and there goes the licence. I have enough trouble keeping the temptation at bay on my 14 RT and I have a few pieces of road that I know well and when the traffic conditions are right (and the High Way Patrol is absent) I give the bike her head and the grin fills the visor. Owning this rocket would be like flying a fighter around in controlled airspace - following the Airbus/Boeing people movers. Love your bike assessments.
Beautiful Bike ....Still Sounds Great. Lovely...but could only watch half the vlog.... way to far above my pay grade and I'm not keen on waste my life day dreaming...... Live the DREAM my friend..
Love the looks of the V4S Panigale, but spent my money on the Supersport S. More likely to keep my license, and still have fun on real roads. Mirrors have gone away, replaced by bar end units, exhaust is the updated Akro units, and the Supersport S is still a lot of fun at normal speeds.
As an aggressive rider, something like this V4 would definitely be "too much for the road" in my hands....For all the fun I might have, I'm sure the traffic violations I'd collect would ruin that right quick... This Panigale V4 does seem very well behaved though....
You lucky, lucky sod LOL, a fella at our club bought the V4S during the summer and let me have a ride on it, to be honest I was a bit wary before I rode it as the same fella had a Panigale 1199 in the past which he was kind enough to loan me and I can say it was the first bike since the original Kawasaki H2 to scare me but the V4 is a completely different kettle of fish, it's as civilised as you want it to be and is as mad as you want it to be. I found it to be almost Fireblade like in the way you feel instantly at home on it and it's so confidence instilling, as I said you're a lucky man!
Absolute dreambike, but also simply incredibly expensive. I simply cant justify forking over that much dosh for a motorcycle when I could get 3 others for the same money..
Gorgeous wallet busting machine, looking forward to your long term review 'what's it like to ride in the rain in the middle of a British winter? Take care, all the best.
Personally, it's a feast of form over function, testicular jewellery if you like! But and it's a big BUT..........long may we continue to have the freedom to buy 'bikes like this if we want. I wouldn't! My choice.......
Looks good. V4. The only V4 I’ve ever had was ST1300 Honda Pan, which had an amazingly smooth engine, which also went up to 80mph without even noticing. Hang on to your licence TMF.
I've test ridden that temptress and while it was more comfortable than I expected in terms of riding position, it's so HOT. Besides that, you could get A LOT of bike in a GS/A or Multistrada for less coin. Maybe if I were a track day junky. Congrats on getting to ride it for a bit!
It would be great if you could get hold of a 1299 Superleggera to try. I love the look of that bike, especially in its Red and White colours. Ducati Panigales' are always such good looking bikes :)
It’s a beaut. That tail end would suit a nice top box. Lol. If I bought one of these,fat chance, I’d have a tail tidy waiting in the garage to pop on as soon as I got home.
Thank you for posting. Like you, I think the Pannigale is the most beautiful new bike in the market today. I am a sucker for single swing arms. Can't wait for your long term report.
I test rode one last weekend and it was awful for me,it has epic power ,handling is telepathic and the brakes were simply awsome but it was I'm afraid like riding a 15th century pain machine ,30 years ago I'd have bitten my own arm of to get one but now when I can afford one at 55 I can't think of a worse bike to own but if I cod afford one just as a track day tool then the pain would not be an issue as you would be laughing so much you would not feel a thing ,sadly age and genetics have given me a bad back and other niggle that ensure my sport bike days are done so with a heavy heart I'll stick with my monster 1200r which is I hope the closest I get to a mobility scooter any time soon lol.
A technological piece of design beauty. But. How long before bikes like this are used to put a cap on what is allowed to be manufactured? And what we can buy? Over 30 yrs ago learners were limited to 125 and bikes like yamaha 250lc's were not allowed to be ridden on a provisional licence. The bottom dropped out of the 250 market. Remember sidewinder sidecars and single piston kits of honda 250 super dreams? I know the throttle goes both ways and track days are available, but we all know if you have a bike like this the temptation not to exploit it is massive. Just watch youtube....
To have the disposable income to afford one of these, you need little or no mortgage, no family obligations and independent income. So target demographic will be old(er) men, pilots and the sons of Russian oligarchs. There you go sir, two out of three ain't bad.
...sadly the family obligations bit trumps my fun (two kids about to go to University at the same time saps any disposable income I would otherwise have)...
I got 23 v4 i agree 👍 💯 it homicidal bike that will destroy most if not all modern SS bikes uf not all natural aspire engine include ugly H 2 they only thing h2 has more top speed but ducati will get there faster during massive torch
To a Yankee like me, all those beautiful little towns in the U.K. look the same... just wondering if you live anywhere near Baron Von Grumble? You chaps should get a pint together and record the conversation. Lovely video in any case 👍
Sounds excellent :-) Yes would need to swap out the viby fixed mirrors for aftermarket foldable, had to do this on the 959 as well. The new R model is a weapon !
No doubt it's a nice bike. Those mirrors not only don't work, but look a little like a giant RAM mount. I've never been a fan of the dry clutch rattle at idle on the Ducatis, and, while the TFTs are far more interactive, I would miss two round dials on a bike like this. Cheers for the review.
I feel so sorry for you that you have to ride, sorry, ... FLY ... that beauty for such a long time! If you need someone to talk, give me a call! After editing those V4S Vlogs, your editing software will come up with the speedometer-blurring-function by default. ;)
Of course it’s too much power for the road, but Lamborghini’s and Ferrari S are the same.. it’s about the feeling you get when you look at it your garage 👍🏻
A mechanical marvel with a sublime aesthetic, no doubt about it. However, in my opinion it is too much horsemanship for the road and for current use, without forgetting the price. For circuit, if you do not participate in competitions at the level of championships, it is also too expensive. I'd say it's for moneyed adepts or for Arab sheiks. Another excellent review. Cheers.
I'm not usually bothered by the backs of bikes, but this one's dangerous-looking stiletto is just crying out for a tail-tidy. For the safety for anyone unfortunate enough to be behind you if nothing else.
Even with the dreadful mirrors similar to those on my Supersport, would love to own one of these in a few years once hopefully second hand values make them a bit more affordable, look forward to your longer term review, particularly regarding comfort on longer journeys and as such whether or not you could tour on her. Cheers TMF.
Sorry to be blunt but you'd have to be a fool to tour on this bike. Sport oriented body position, non-existent off-road capabilities, no serious engine or fairing protection options, extremely limited luggage options, way less comfort than on a proper touring bike, less weather protection and probably shitty fuel economy. You wouldn't take your Italian leather shoes jogging through a country meadow now, would you? Same principle applies here. You can, but you'll have a terrible experience... and you'll ruin your fancy Italian shoes.
@@mickeypopa, Fair enough more in hope than expectation that such a beautiful sportsbike would be capable of touring, although see plenty of Aprilla Tuono's doing longer trips.
Fantastic review, I loved my test ride on one. I’d have one in a flash if I could stretch that far! Beautiful looks and the power is just crazy, love it. Stay safe
Hey kids, missendenflyer here, hope you're well, haha, 😍 please don't ever stop with that introduction and i will Allways stick around and stay tuned. You're my favourie ❤
@@TheMissendenFlyer 👍 Credit where it's due lad, you're working hard for it. Ordinarily I'm not one for commenting, but when a must, i shall. Content is always great. Glad you're enjoying it
There are certain bikes that can turn a rider into speed demon and bring out the devil in you. For me it was the Kawasaki two strokes triples, Yamaha RZ350, Yamaha VMax, Triumph Speed Triple, Kawasaki ZX1400R. My opinion is if the bike turns you into an antisocial idiot then stay away from it. If you can be a normal sane rider with 200 horsepower congrats you are special. My heart still wants a 750 Kawasaki two stroke triple but my head says stay very far away!
"If the bike turns you into an antisocial idiot..." then you were an antisocial idiot to begin with. Riding a bike has nothing to do with being social or antisocial.
So the rear tyre sprays mud and crap from the road all over the rear end and those holes in the seat make sure there's no chance it misses your backside. What a dumb design, it doesn't even look good.
Having three Ducati twins, honestly still not completely sold on the Pani V4 over the RSV4. Mainly due to the sound. At low revs it sounds almost exactly like the twin, I expecting more like the Desmosedici RR (or perhaps similar to RSV4). Maybe an exhaust would help, but I kind of doubt it and they are ridiculously expensive for Termi or Akrapovic for the bike. Exhaust cannot change the phase of the sound from the four cylinders using the crank Ducati does to mimic a twin sound. Was totally ready to love it (and do in almost every way)...but the sound....
My tuned 2016 ZX-10R makes a similar amount of power 🤷🏻♂️ Ultimately your ability to go fast isn’t the bike it’s the rider.. and as beautiful as it is, it’s stupidly expensive.
I was wondering how you rate this panigale v4 against the likes of the other high powered (200 "ish" bhp) sports bikes you've riden, eg. Ninja H2, Suzuki gsxr etc...???
Too much for the road? Of course! It's in the same category as any of the current range of 200 mph 200 bhp ultra sport motorcycles any of which would compare very favourably indeed with Grand Prix machines from a few years ago. They're specifically designed to take corners safely at speeds well in excess of 100 mph (assuming you have the nerve or ability). Exactly the same as having a Ferrari or Lambo or McLaren. All great fun but don't kid yourself you're getting anything but pose value keeping it on the road.
oh, and Mr Flyer, I have a few questions for the in depth review, hope you mention it 1. Does it hot ? 2. How is it fell in low speed 3. Is it hard to maintain it (as other ducatis) 4. How its fuel consumption ? better than the 1299 and MT 10 ? Thanks for your videos sir !!!
Guess you're gonna have to come out of retirement to be able to afford a new 1250 GS and Panigale V4S to update your garage. Both beautiful and competent bikes for their intended use. Shame you have a long term review sport bike during our winter months.....and no heated grips. It sounds so much like a V2 Ducati even though it's a V4.
Beautiful bike and totally over the top in every way. Do I want one? Yes. Will I get one? No. On today's roads with all the traffic, texting idiots and cameras there is little opportunity to enjoy the performance and sports bikes rarely make great daily drivers. Commuting on a sports bike is the price people pay for their weekend excitement. Great if you have very deep pockets and can own one as a weekend toy but there's a reason sports bikes are less popular these days and it was summed up nicely by a mate of mine. "I've got this fantastic bike but can't use it without risking my licence and life." He now rides an Africa Twin. I have a workhorse GS for long trips and Bonneville T100 for the rural lanes, fantastic riding at less cost and risk to the licence. Great review as always.
I have a 2022 V2 panigale. I would like a V4 which would be tracked every now and then but mostly street riding. I've been told id like the V2 better overall though. Thoughts?
Yes the one thing that lets the duke v4 down to my mind is it’s sound - not horrible but nowhere near as nice as other v4s to listen to. Other than that a simply brilliant sport bike though....
Excellent review as usual... But this bike still has the worst sounding v4 in the history of motorcycling. I'd take the Tuono over this anytime anyday.
...indeed, my point in asking was that it's difficult to take someones comments on how hard or easy a bike is to ride if they've not actually ridden one - based on my 899 I expected this to be difficult to handle, in fact it's supremely easy to ride, I was pleasantly surprised. I found that to stay within reasonable speed lower gears worked best - when I learned to ride my instructor told me that you should select the best gear for the road you're riding and not always fight to get into higher gears (as you tend to in a car) - that advice from many years ago has stuck with me, it may not be right of course and I don't claim to be any sort of riding expert! All the best and thanks for stopping by - TMF
Given the cost of this machine, I think Ducati would have come up with a better looking solution to the design of their master cylinder reservoirs. They look akin to the receptacle one might use to provide a urine sample! Why do they go from the designed ones on the Diavel to what looks like last minute add-ons on this Panigale?
Yeah it's bizarre that isn't it Ken - one of the first things I swapped out on my 899 - the red anodised Ducati Performance ones look great and should come as standard.....
What the hell, forget the MCN,how can you compare TMF to a Michael Neeves who tested the V4S on the road as a long term loan bike and also on track! He is also a seasoned racer and endurance racer. Neeves put this bike through its paces and didn't just bumble round like TMF does. Yes TMF needs to stay legal as much as he can but he can not give feedback like a seasoned racer can. I love TMFs videos but some bikes he tests are lost on him due to him not having the experience of riding bikes at race level. Although I like to see the reactions and opinions of the average bloke like TMF on these sort of bikes if I wanted to know what there really capable of TMF is the last bloke you'd watch. Many buy these bikes to pose on as you need to be loaded to pay repairs should you get things wrong and let's be honest the faster you go the more likely of things going south. No offense to TMF intended but he should not be compared to a seasoned racer on this type of bike!
Szlejer last time I checked Neeves has his V4S as a long term loan bike,apart from track work,he used it to commute on and also toured on it. TMF had it for a few hours,he can only give a first account review of this bike unlike Neeves who lived with it for a while. If you would buy this of the back of TMFs review then crack on..... Why would a "racer" have a "skewed" perspective! Neeves is one of MCN's main road testers not just a "racer" what a daft comment to come out with,your basically saying he can't review a bike for road use as he races bike's.
@@philiproberts6947 Don't try to put your words in my mouth, buddy... Thanks. I never said he has skewed perspective, try to comprehend stuff before posting. Anyone at the high/extreme end of any hobby/sport has a somewhat skewed perspective than the average joe. A "racer" has completely different concept of riding comfort, just to give you one example...
Gotta agree with you about the panageli being a thing of Beauty, I have a couple of things against it though. 1, cost, 2 fear factor of servicing and repair, and 3, all the Ducati bikes in my opinion they having got the plumbing not right always appears unfinished or not routed correctly. (thats the pipe work) : )
Can you not dial the throttle free play out of the Panigale then? I like no free play at all (not everyone's cup of tea I know) Spacer? What is this item you speak of? ;)
A good video to sum up modern UK motorcycling: bimbling about in traffic and through endless built-up areas in 3rd. Then out on the open road, if you ever dared try to enjoy the immensity of power that the Panigale has to offer, you can fall foul of the first speed trap. I've owned Ducatis for over 30 years, but this one would be an endless frustration until I eventually lost my licence. Which might not take long. You're going to have to blur out the speedo if you ever try to really test this thing.
It's a lot of money to buy a lot of stuff that you won't ever need or be able to use on the road. Very sad. Biking was a lot more fun in the 90s.
Is the bike too powerful for the road. Of course it is - However, it comes down to the brain sitting on the saddle. Self control - needed in buckets full. The bike is perfect but if it was under my butt on a day to day basis I would probably yield to temptation and give it a squirt and there goes the licence. I have enough trouble keeping the temptation at bay on my 14 RT and I have a few pieces of road that I know well and when the traffic conditions are right (and the High Way Patrol is absent) I give the bike her head and the grin fills the visor. Owning this rocket would be like flying a fighter around in controlled airspace - following the Airbus/Boeing people movers. Love your bike assessments.
I've neither the skill nor the back for one of those.
Lol! 😂. I love that reply.
@@keithjackson4985 true. Cheers Keith
Beautiful Bike ....Still Sounds Great. Lovely...but could only watch half the vlog.... way to far above my pay grade and I'm not keen on waste my life day dreaming...... Live the DREAM my friend..
All the superbikes are too much for the road. It’s just bragging rights at that point.
Love the looks of the V4S Panigale, but spent my money on the Supersport S. More likely to keep my license, and still have fun on real roads. Mirrors have gone away, replaced by bar end units, exhaust is the updated Akro units, and the Supersport S is still a lot of fun at normal speeds.
which is the loudest exhaust for supersport s , i want to change the stock one!
I wouldn't kick it out of bed for wobbly mirrors, but I might once I found out how much I had to pay..
It still has some of that twin sound. They dialed the exhaust note in just right.
But why Ducati have got their new design team from Deely Boppers is another question. Those mirrors 😂
every 1000cc sports bike is too much for a road IMO
Beautiful machine, but oh dear those reflectors on the brake calipers!
They would be getting launched day one. Probs only on for USA regs
As an aggressive rider, something like this V4 would definitely be "too much for the road" in my hands....For all the fun I might have, I'm sure the traffic violations I'd collect would ruin that right quick...
This Panigale V4 does seem very well behaved though....
Good Video, Just bought a Speciale :-) Just SUBSCRIBED! Look forward to your new videos on the V4!
You lucky, lucky sod LOL, a fella at our club bought the V4S during the summer and let me have a ride on it, to be honest I was a bit wary before I rode it as the same fella had a Panigale 1199 in the past which he was kind enough to loan me and I can say it was the first bike since the original Kawasaki H2 to scare me but the V4 is a completely different kettle of fish, it's as civilised as you want it to be and is as mad as you want it to be. I found it to be almost Fireblade like in the way you feel instantly at home on it and it's so confidence instilling, as I said you're a lucky man!
My thoughts exactly - a supremely forgiving beast of a bike!
Ive just taken delivery of a 2019 V4S after a 2018 V4 and the mirrors on the 19 model are solid and no issues with vibrations :)
Totally with you on this the superbikes are getting to much for road use 👍👍
all that power is meant to be used on track not on the road.....why do people say its too much for the road
The average family car does over 100 mph - it’s not the vehicle it’s the driver !
Absolute dreambike, but also simply incredibly expensive. I simply cant justify forking over that much dosh for a motorcycle when I could get 3 others for the same money..
only three?!
@@keyboarddancers7751 You'd be lucky to get two for that price these days, for new 600cc sport bikes and up.
I wanted you to ping off that horrible reflector from the front caliper during the walkround
Even being late to review this monster I’m happy and eagerly awaiting your long term thoughts on it.
Crossing Buckingham Golden Scissors ! :-) So British.... love it ! Fantastic bike that has 4 times the power of my Street Cup :-)
Thanks for the great initial review. Does this mean the 899’s days are numbered?
Stay tuned!
Stunning bike and a great review. What gloves are you wearing btw?
Those are my Weise Deacons, see my review here >> th-cam.com/video/BvokLBdPdo4/w-d-xo.html
Gorgeous wallet busting machine, looking forward to your long term review 'what's it like to ride in the rain in the middle of a British winter? Take care, all the best.
Personally, it's a feast of form over function, testicular jewellery if you like! But and it's a big BUT..........long may we continue to have the freedom to buy 'bikes like this if we want. I wouldn't! My choice.......
Looks good. V4. The only V4 I’ve ever had was ST1300 Honda Pan, which had an amazingly smooth engine, which also went up to 80mph without even noticing. Hang on to your licence TMF.
I've test ridden that temptress and while it was more comfortable than I expected in terms of riding position, it's so HOT. Besides that, you could get A LOT of bike in a GS/A or Multistrada for less coin. Maybe if I were a track day junky. Congrats on getting to ride it for a bit!
It would be great if you could get hold of a 1299 Superleggera to try. I love the look of that bike, especially in its Red and White colours. Ducati Panigales' are always such good looking bikes :)
No such thing as too much!
Must have some track days with that one. Ducatis are wonderfu bikes. Thank you .........Sal : )
It’s a beaut. That tail end would suit a nice top box. Lol. If I bought one of these,fat chance, I’d have a tail tidy waiting in the garage to pop on as soon as I got home.
TMF you're riding along roads on one of my favourite routes The humpback bridge is good fun :)
Yes you can get some serious air over that if you’re not careful!
Hey TMF,
Great video as always 👏
I'm guessing practically is not at the top of the list when buying that completely amazing work of art!!
A Ducati superbike that is easy to live with? What times we live in! Thanks for the video, Mr Flyer, looking forward to the next vids!
Thank you for posting. Like you, I think the Pannigale is the most beautiful new bike in the market today. I am a sucker for single swing arms. Can't wait for your long term report.
Looks like Xmas cane a little early for you this year!😉. Looking forward to hearing more about. Enjoy what I'm sure will feel far too short a time.
I test rode one last weekend and it was awful for me,it has epic power ,handling is telepathic and the brakes were simply awsome but it was I'm afraid like riding a 15th century pain machine ,30 years ago I'd have bitten my own arm of to get one but now when I can afford one at 55 I can't think of a worse bike to own but if I cod afford one just as a track day tool then the pain would not be an issue as you would be laughing so much you would not feel a thing ,sadly age and genetics have given me a bad back and other niggle that ensure my sport bike days are done so with a heavy heart I'll stick with my monster 1200r which is I hope the closest I get to a mobility scooter any time soon lol.
Irresistible looking machine. Sounds brilliant. Does need a tail tidy.
A technological piece of design beauty. But.
How long before bikes like this are used to put a cap on what is allowed to be manufactured? And what we can buy?
Over 30 yrs ago learners were limited to 125 and bikes like yamaha 250lc's were not allowed to be ridden on a provisional licence. The bottom dropped out of the 250 market. Remember sidewinder sidecars and single piston kits of honda 250 super dreams?
I know the throttle goes both ways and track days are available, but we all know if you have a bike like this the temptation not to exploit it is massive. Just watch youtube....
To have the disposable income to afford one of these, you need little or no mortgage, no family obligations and independent income. So target demographic will be old(er) men, pilots and the sons of Russian oligarchs. There you go sir, two out of three ain't bad.
...sadly the family obligations bit trumps my fun (two kids about to go to University at the same time saps any disposable income I would otherwise have)...
I like the 899 better for my street riding .
I got 23 v4 i agree 👍 💯 it homicidal bike that will destroy most if not all modern SS bikes uf not all natural aspire engine include ugly H 2 they only thing h2 has more top speed but ducati will get there faster during massive torch
OMG - back to that “charmed life” - you lucky man. What a bike it is - so looking forward to your long term review. Yours aye, Alan
To a Yankee like me, all those beautiful little towns in the U.K. look the same... just wondering if you live anywhere near Baron Von Grumble? You chaps should get a pint together and record the conversation. Lovely video in any case 👍
Absolutely beautiful machine
Stupid fast for the road it would take real self control not to lose your license
Great review again thanks 👍
They completely ruin new bikes with this weird TFT trend. Low refresh rates and this one is specially boring on a 200HP machine.
Well you would expect it to be good, its a lump of money of a motorcycle with the class of Ducati and the hi tech of star trek.
Sounds excellent :-) Yes would need to swap out the viby fixed mirrors for aftermarket foldable, had to do this on the 959 as well. The new R model is a weapon !
Shame they have covered up most of that lovely engine !!.
Great review as always. Love that stretch of A413
Cheers William...
Very stylish, a veritable cutie magnet :)
No doubt it's a nice bike. Those mirrors not only don't work, but look a little like a giant RAM mount. I've never been a fan of the dry clutch rattle at idle on the Ducatis, and, while the TFTs are far more interactive, I would miss two round dials on a bike like this. Cheers for the review.
I feel so sorry for you that you have to ride, sorry, ... FLY ... that beauty for such a long time! If you need someone to talk, give me a call! After editing those V4S Vlogs, your editing software will come up with the speedometer-blurring-function by default. ;)
Of course it’s too much power for the road, but Lamborghini’s and Ferrari
S are the same.. it’s about the feeling you get when you look at it your garage 👍🏻
Sell every bike you have and buy a V4S
Nice bike, is that the valve train I'm hearing?
Dunno.....
A mechanical marvel with a sublime aesthetic, no doubt about it.
However, in my opinion it is too much horsemanship for the road and for current use, without forgetting the price.
For circuit, if you do not participate in competitions at the level of championships, it is also too expensive.
I'd say it's for moneyed adepts or for Arab sheiks.
Another excellent review.
Cheers.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
Lovely bike but way too expensive imo.
Fab bike, track only though for me
I can't believe the new V4 R models aren't even numbered anymore - bloody Audi ! :-)
I'm not usually bothered by the backs of bikes, but this one's dangerous-looking stiletto is just crying out for a tail-tidy. For the safety for anyone unfortunate enough to be behind you if nothing else.
Hi Ducati is a amazing bike! Out my price range.
Instant like... let’s watch the content now..;)
You're not wrong about it being one of the best looking bikes going, it's an absolute thing of beauty.
Even with the dreadful mirrors similar to those on my Supersport, would love to own one of these in a few years once hopefully second hand values make them a bit more affordable, look forward to your longer term review, particularly regarding comfort on longer journeys and as such whether or not you could tour on her. Cheers TMF.
Sorry to be blunt but you'd have to be a fool to tour on this bike. Sport oriented body position, non-existent off-road capabilities, no serious engine or fairing protection options, extremely limited luggage options, way less comfort than on a proper touring bike, less weather protection and probably shitty fuel economy. You wouldn't take your Italian leather shoes jogging through a country meadow now, would you? Same principle applies here. You can, but you'll have a terrible experience... and you'll ruin your fancy Italian shoes.
@@mickeypopa, Fair enough more in hope than expectation that such a beautiful sportsbike would be capable of touring, although see plenty of Aprilla Tuono's doing longer trips.
Please tell ducati to make a modern version of the supermono. Or their version of the aprilia rs660. I know they'll listen to you.
Yeah right!!
Fantastic review, I loved my test ride on one. I’d have one in a flash if I could stretch that far! Beautiful looks and the power is just crazy, love it. Stay safe
Good stuff - glad you like it! All the best - TMF
Hey kids, missendenflyer here, hope you're well, haha, 😍 please don't ever stop with that introduction and i will Allways stick around and stay tuned. You're my favourie ❤
Thanks very much for the kind words - much appreciated!
@@TheMissendenFlyer 👍 Credit where it's due lad, you're working hard for it. Ordinarily I'm not one for commenting, but when a must, i shall. Content is always great. Glad you're enjoying it
Beautiful Italian bike 🤙
There are certain bikes that can turn a rider into speed demon and bring out the devil in you. For me it was the Kawasaki two strokes triples, Yamaha RZ350, Yamaha VMax, Triumph Speed Triple, Kawasaki ZX1400R. My opinion is if the bike turns you into an antisocial idiot then stay away from it. If you can be a normal sane rider with 200 horsepower congrats you are special. My heart still wants a 750 Kawasaki two stroke triple but my head says stay very far away!
"If the bike turns you into an antisocial idiot..." then you were an antisocial idiot to begin with. Riding a bike has nothing to do with being social or antisocial.
@@mickeypopa - Maybe you're right but I think perhaps you are leaning heavily in the antisocial direction with your commentary.
@Jerry Adams
I could say the same for you, while providing nothing to substantiate my claims. That's how easy it is.
So the rear tyre sprays mud and crap from the road all over the rear end and those holes in the seat make sure there's no chance it misses your backside. What a dumb design, it doesn't even look good.
look at the tree branch on the road at 1:12 imagine hitting that at speed.
Unless I blinked I didn’t see one white van result
Yay!
Does the white bus count?
The only thing on the roads faster than a V4S is a white van man on his way home on his lunchbreak for a quicky
Having three Ducati twins, honestly still not completely sold on the Pani V4 over the RSV4. Mainly due to the sound. At low revs it sounds almost exactly like the twin, I expecting more like the Desmosedici RR (or perhaps similar to RSV4). Maybe an exhaust would help, but I kind of doubt it and they are ridiculously expensive for Termi or Akrapovic for the bike. Exhaust cannot change the phase of the sound from the four cylinders using the crank Ducati does to mimic a twin sound. Was totally ready to love it (and do in almost every way)...but the sound....
...yeah I must admit my 899 does sound better when you wind her up!
Nice review. What’s the purpose of the street centerline in town that goes from straight to a jagged pattern?
Aren't you a lucky boy, having that in your stable for a few weeks!!!
Sure am - loved this one.....
Never been into sports bike myself but not everyone is into the same bike so for you piston heads out there enjoy :)
Can you review more 125 like the mt-125 -Yamaha yzf-r125. Really enjoyed the Suzuki gsx 125 video keep up the good work !
Stay tuned - more 125s coming!
My tuned 2016 ZX-10R makes a similar amount of power 🤷🏻♂️ Ultimately your ability to go fast isn’t the bike it’s the rider.. and as beautiful as it is, it’s stupidly expensive.
Very true....
I was wondering how you rate this panigale v4 against the likes of the other high powered (200 "ish" bhp) sports bikes you've riden, eg. Ninja H2, Suzuki gsxr etc...???
The best I've ridden....
Too much for the road? Of course! It's in the same category as any of the current range of 200 mph 200 bhp ultra sport motorcycles any of which would compare very favourably indeed with Grand Prix machines from a few years ago. They're specifically designed to take corners safely at speeds well in excess of 100 mph (assuming you have the nerve or ability).
Exactly the same as having a Ferrari or Lambo or McLaren.
All great fun but don't kid yourself you're getting anything but pose value keeping it on the road.
I completely agree - not that there's anything wrong with being proud of what you've bought and doing a bit of posing of course....
and then we'll have a in depth review in 1 or 2 more months, love it
Stay tuned!
oh, and Mr Flyer, I have a few questions for the in depth review, hope you mention it
1. Does it hot ?
2. How is it fell in low speed
3. Is it hard to maintain it (as other ducatis)
4. How its fuel consumption ? better than the 1299 and MT 10 ?
Thanks for your videos sir !!!
Guess you're gonna have to come out of retirement to be able to afford a new 1250 GS and Panigale V4S to update your garage. Both beautiful and competent bikes for their intended use. Shame you have a long term review sport bike during our winter months.....and no heated grips. It sounds so much like a V2 Ducati even though it's a V4.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
Beautiful bike and totally over the top in every way. Do I want one? Yes. Will I get one? No. On today's roads with all the traffic, texting idiots and cameras there is little opportunity to enjoy the performance and sports bikes rarely make great daily drivers. Commuting on a sports bike is the price people pay for their weekend excitement. Great if you have very deep pockets and can own one as a weekend toy but there's a reason sports bikes are less popular these days and it was summed up nicely by a mate of mine. "I've got this fantastic bike but can't use it without risking my licence and life." He now rides an Africa Twin. I have a workhorse GS for long trips and Bonneville T100 for the rural lanes, fantastic riding at less cost and risk to the licence. Great review as always.
...can't help but agree with everything you've said there Nick - thanks for watching and for stopping by...TMF
I have a 2022 V2 panigale. I would like a V4 which would be tracked every now and then but mostly street riding. I've been told id like the V2 better overall though. Thoughts?
Yes I think the V2 is probably the better road bike….
Yep, a glass of Vino Collapso and a TMF vid. What more could you want?
Great review, I'm a massive Ducati fan but the clatter from that engine is terrible compared to Richy Vida's Honda with 85k on the clock.
Yes the one thing that lets the duke v4 down to my mind is it’s sound - not horrible but nowhere near as nice as other v4s to listen to. Other than that a simply brilliant sport bike though....
It has the practicality of an aircraft carrier on a boating lake. :D
Apparently, it's not "too much", but is it twice the dog's bollocks fun of the 790 Duke, you rode?
10 times as much fun!
Excellent review as usual... But this bike still has the worst sounding v4 in the history of motorcycling. I'd take the Tuono over this anytime anyday.
Well I've ridden both and I'm not so sure.....(although both stonking motorcycles for sure)....
agreed it doesn't sound at all nice in this video. lots of not particularly nice mechanical noise
@@Peakwanderer It takes italian "engineering" to make a highly expensive 4 cylinder engine sound like a 2 cylinder agricultural vehicle. :D
And the Tuono won't boil you alive in the spring lol!
Vfr 400 without doubt the best sounding v4 engine.
needs a tail tidy and the 996 looks better but still very nice
No I haven’t ridden one. Not many of us have or will. But still what was wrong with getting it into a decent gear? Bike of the year I think not
...indeed, my point in asking was that it's difficult to take someones comments on how hard or easy a bike is to ride if they've not actually ridden one - based on my 899 I expected this to be difficult to handle, in fact it's supremely easy to ride, I was pleasantly surprised. I found that to stay within reasonable speed lower gears worked best - when I learned to ride my instructor told me that you should select the best gear for the road you're riding and not always fight to get into higher gears (as you tend to in a car) - that advice from many years ago has stuck with me, it may not be right of course and I don't claim to be any sort of riding expert! All the best and thanks for stopping by - TMF
Given the cost of this machine, I think Ducati would have come up with a better looking solution to the design of their master cylinder reservoirs. They look akin to the receptacle one might use to provide a urine sample!
Why do they go from the designed ones on the Diavel to what looks like last minute add-ons on this Panigale?
Yeah it's bizarre that isn't it Ken - one of the first things I swapped out on my 899 - the red anodised Ducati Performance ones look great and should come as standard.....
Forget MCN etc ... this is the review that counts!
Yes, if your superbike is used to bumble about on in jeans...
What the hell, forget the MCN,how can you compare TMF to a Michael Neeves who tested the V4S on the road as a long term loan bike and also on track! He is also a seasoned racer and endurance racer. Neeves put this bike through its paces and didn't just bumble round like TMF does. Yes TMF needs to stay legal as much as he can but he can not give feedback like a seasoned racer can.
I love TMFs videos but some bikes he tests are lost on him due to him not having the experience of riding bikes at race level.
Although I like to see the reactions and opinions of the average bloke like TMF on these sort of bikes if I wanted to know what there really capable of TMF is the last bloke you'd watch.
Many buy these bikes to pose on as you need to be loaded to pay repairs should you get things wrong and let's be honest the faster you go the more likely of things going south.
No offense to TMF intended but he should not be compared to a seasoned racer on this type of bike!
@@philiproberts6947 This review is far more valuable for the average rider than the somewhat skewed perspective of a racer. ;)
Szlejer last time I checked Neeves has his V4S as a long term loan bike,apart from track work,he used it to commute on and also toured on it. TMF had it for a few hours,he can only give a first account review of this bike unlike Neeves who lived with it for a while. If you would buy this of the back of TMFs review then crack on.....
Why would a "racer" have a "skewed" perspective! Neeves is one of MCN's main road testers not just a "racer" what a daft comment to come out with,your basically saying he can't review a bike for road use as he races bike's.
@@philiproberts6947 Don't try to put your words in my mouth, buddy... Thanks. I never said he has skewed perspective, try to comprehend stuff before posting. Anyone at the high/extreme end of any hobby/sport has a somewhat skewed perspective than the average joe. A "racer" has completely different concept of riding comfort, just to give you one example...
Sell it. Get the 1250 GSA... :-)
Gotta agree with you about the panageli being a thing of Beauty, I have a couple of things against it though. 1, cost, 2 fear factor of servicing and repair, and 3, all the Ducati bikes in my opinion they having got the plumbing not right always appears unfinished or not routed correctly. (thats the pipe work) : )
For something so gorgeous, that TFT is really boring looking
Can you not dial the throttle free play out of the Panigale then? I like no free play at all (not everyone's cup of tea I know) Spacer? What is this item you speak of? ;)
This puppy th-cam.com/video/zC6DDloPTNw/w-d-xo.html
One of the best looking bikes no question. Better performance than the Aprilia... But I still prefer the latter for noise (I'm a touch bias though)
The mirrors really wound me up. Like you say, premium bike and they are shocking.
Yes very poor indeed that one....
Piss pot reservoirs with screw tops. No, just no.