Can a camera be TOO good? - Sony ZV-E1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
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Sony has just released their new ZV-E1 camera. It uses the same full frame sensor from the Sony FX3, FX6, and AS7III but comes in a compact size. David is here to unbox it and give his initial thoughts, so grab some popcorn and listen up.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:10 Unboxing
1:55 Overview of the Sony ZV-E1
7:58 The sensor
8:34 NexiGo!
9:02 Heat concerns
11:15 Exploring the settings
12:50 Looking at different shoot modes
15:15 Image stabilization options
16:21 Cinematic mode woooooah
17:03 Exposure and Colour settings
17:56 Autofocus modes
18:52 Low-light performance
21:36 Rolling shutter test
21:54 Dual recording!
22:40 But should you buy it?
25:56 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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It feels weird to have a camera video without Brandon, but I don’t mind David taking over them at all.
X2
Yeah... I was wondering why Brandon isn't reviewing this then I remembered
Funny thing is I've come to associate David so much with other things I had to go "oh yeah, he's a shooter too".
No hate to Brandon he's good. David is really good on camera so I'm not complaing about him taking over
Did Brandon leave ? Did I miss something ?
Wow, that ending on “what you should buy” is one of the best sections I’ve ever seen in an LMG video ever. That was incredibly detailed but really focused. Great stuff!
100% agree! Reviews forget to include a point on - who should buy it 😊
Yeah that's great because I had heard about this new model a week or two ago I don't know where, and how it was such a bang for the buck, but I thought that Sony probably had better options out there. Since I'm not a professional but I really appreciate photography as an activity on my trips and other important moments, I want the best product at the lowest cost, especially since in photo, you get drowned with additional purchases like lenses, batteries, and other stuff. So it's important to know the other options out there!
You can tell this review is being done by someone who REALLY knows what they're talking about and has plenty of experience with the entire product category and all the competition in the segment. That's an issue I've always had with LMG in certain product categories, like laptops. They only care about high end 13" thin and lights and compare everything to that. Some of us actually prefer bigger screen laptops with a bit more power and battery life.
Brandon also knows his shit when it comes to cameras but I feel like he lacks the confidence to really tell people what's good for them. He mostly just sticks to the facts.
Well, David, your sparkling personality during camera reviews is something the AI will never be able to take away from you.
Best comment by a longshot.
No.
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Not yet!
I miss Brandon, but David is deffo a worthy successor
Where did he go?
@@Q_QQ_Q He left. 😮💨
Brandon as a presenter sucked and made camera videos hardly watchable. David is also all over the place, but much less frustrating overall.
Not even close. Sorry.
@@kaimelis what you've been watching. Lol.
At $2200, the overheating issues are going to leave this camera dead in the water for most vloggers, unless they only film in the winter and live in Canada/Finland/Norway/etc.
Unless you always need to keep filming in 60 rps and more. Most vloggers will shoot themselves at 24/30 fps most of the time
@@leonardw5487 The issue is the cool down time. Even if you go for 24fps, you're still only getting 1 legitimate record session in, because like David said, after he stopped recording, let it sit for a minute, then tried filming again, the record time was almost non-existent for the 2nd recording session.
That's a huge risk to take buying this camera and hoping that you don't need to do 2 extended recordings in somewhat quick succession. That makes it basically unusable at any "event" where things are happening constantly.
At least in the water it won't overheat! Or.. it probably would
Most of new phones will record longer with built in Fans and cooling add-ons.
@@leonardw5487 This camera will overheat in 24/30p as well. The real bottleneck is the bitrate. You'll have to shoot 8-bit 4:2:0 for longer recording times. Also Dan Watson got the camera to overheat while just menu browsing. The tiny body just has terrible thermal management.
I like that "budget" has a different meaning in the camera space. $2K is not "budget" nor affordable for me regardless of the features. 😭😂
Great, that’s you. For a working professional that’s on the low end.
@@09williamsa Which is ridiculous.
@@TheBlackSkimmer that’s your opinion, an ignorant one, but yours none the less.
You must be USican. The camera is $4000 CADw/lens.
@@09williamsa troll.
It'll take a little time, but with David taking it over ... it lands in a comfy place.
Make it your own David
Glad to see ShortCircuit is still overviewing some tech stuff, seeing how ltt main channel is switching to potato farming now 😂
I was really excited to hear about this because I thought it was going to be a reasonable upgrade to my ZV-E10... but then I saw the price
With that sensor and processor, there is no way to have the price lower honestly
What you talking bout? The price is a steal, it's basically a7s3 without viewfinder
@@adletkassym9600 but it's more expensive than a7c
Yeah, I was thinking this was a clear winner, but when I saw the price, there are a lot of competitive options. Better in some ways, worse than others.
A weakness for the Sony is a lack of good, affordable compact lenses with fast aperatures compared to some other systems. Nikon Z doesn't have the best cameras, but lenses like the little 40mm 1.8 full frame prime sure make it appealing if you haven't bought into another system.
same
when he said budget I thought it was gonna be like $600, nah it's 2 grand 💀
Even worst case scenario like $1,000 💀
april fools!!!
If you want budget, just use your phone. Dedicated cameras are basically enthusiast or pro level only it seems nowadays.
Budget seems to be the domain of Panasonic nowadays
@@Varocka except a7c is cheaper than this
Soft Skin Effect is NOT an AI feature. It uses face detection used for autofocus to track your face and blurs out the contrasting details on your skin. Does not affect lighting nor does it look good on everyone, yet is toggled on by default.
just loved the content , lot of info and very well put up, never felt like a long video, shots added , the value of information added at the end part while summarizing was even better. worth every second of my watchtime. good luck for the next one.
Great review- really appreciate the level of detail and overview of features.
14:54 little correction here: yes in theory not having a mechanical shutter does degrade image quality a bit. However, this sensor reads out so quickly that i never had any problems with rolling shutter, and the theoretical loss in dynamic range is also absolutely not noticeable. I mainly use my a7sIII for photography (i'm weird, i know) and i always shoot in silent mode and the results are amazing. Oh and 12mp are totally enough for 95% of usecases imo.
New to the channel so David is all I know, and he's phenomenal. I have no need for this camera because I'm pretty much still image only, but I was captivated. My video needs are pretty much taken care of by my LG V60 in manual mode.
Then you'll do good not buying this little space heater. For 2000 bucks. Wth
I love David! was stoked to see him in a non-mouse video, then I realized it's because Brandon left. Now I'm sad.
That was a great video. ZV-E1 looks very tempting... but one point that needs to be mentioned is that once you add a decent full frame lens onto it, the size + weight has just gone way up. Camera newbies need to be aware of that before they jump into the expensive (and heavy) world of full frame.
This is an awesome camera. Also great that you mentioned the Canon R8, a kind of forgotten camera that has 4K 60p oversampled from 6K at just $1499. Between Sony, Panasonic and Canon we are getting insane full-frame cameras for the value.
I love how fast he talks and how passionate about it is he :D
Awesome job, David! I hope you host more in the future :)
The overheating issues are a dealbreaker for me
So hyped for this one, Sony has been doing a crazy job the last few years with cameras they seem to be leagues ahead for price. This may well be a no brainer option if you can get hold of one! Such a shame about the shutter though grrrr.
I just got the standard ZV-1 for about £500 and am super please with it. It’s a great starting out camera for me
For those mentioning Brandon, he left LTT a bit ago. I also didn't know till I randomly saw a tweet of his.
I didn't know until the LTT April Fool's Video lol
@@NigelMelanisticSmith Same
Great energy and confidence from David 🙂
Ah love this. Excellent video, lots of great detail.
Definitely a great freaking camera. It won’t bleed into the fx6 or fx3 for client work ever in my opinion with its overheating issues.
For someone who’s been using an fx3 but didn’t *need* that body style or horsepower per say are going to love this. Heck I almost want it but I’m happy with my fx30!
This is a style of videos i like.
Put everything on the table and talk over all options / settings.
Zv line has been great, I'm a professional photographer and I use the zv1 for video (hand holding on the left hand) it's everything auto but smart auto you can trust the camera to be recording just fine, I'm really interested in this new zve1
little correction for you guys : at 2:01, you're talking about a ZV-E10 but actually show an A7IV on screen. And at 2:25, you catpion "A7IV camera" but David is actually holding a ZV-E10
Basically, the ZV-E1 is a super powerful camera, and you can look at it several ways:
it's an A7S3 with all the photographic features removed (no mechanical shutter, no EVF, no large grip, limited controls). If you were using the A7S3 for video only and you're not bothered by the record times, ZV-E1 is pretty much the same thing, just cheaper. However, I know a few people that work with A7S3s and those people are fine with 12MP images when they're taking pictures, it's actually perfect for photojournalism and the A7S3 ends up being a workhorse for modern journalists that don't need much of a super high res picture (12Mp is more than enough for web / newspaper use), but they actually need good video specs
it's an FX3 with the fan removed, and with simplified controls. Basically, if you aren't bothered by the record times, it could be alright, but there is no doubt the FX 3 runs longer, has backup recording, better interface (full size HDMI, better RAW support) and is easier to rig.
Not really gonna mention the FX6, if you were looking at an FX6 you're most likely not interested at the ZV-E1
If you are looking for a decent cinema like camera for about 2k USD, you can either go with the ZV-E1, or go with the pretty new as well FX30, which is basically the FX3 with a smaller APS-C sensor, not only being more versatile on the photo side (if needed), but also having all the nice features that the FX3 body offers.
Also! On the subject of the S5II, the autofocus is pretty good, almost as good as teh A7IV in video now that they use phase detect autofocus. It was however pretty bad ont eh original Lumix S5 (which was basically the same thing just without PDAF)
Imho, if you're looking as Sony and you want a serious video camera, the big question is between the FX30 and the ZV-E1. David mentionned that you can shoot in crop mode if you have APS-C E mount glass, but if you have those lenses, then FX30 is even more a no brainer
Ok
I'm so glad they fixed that silly mode selection button and turned it into a 3-state switch. Huge improvement. I wish the camera would give you a warning if you start shooting video in "Camera Mode" too. I've done that a number of times and it kills the autofocus - you're standing there wondering why it won't stick to your face :(
The lack of good cooling is annoying on an otherwise great camera. Currently use a zv1 and the thermal shutdowns are absolutely annoying, so much so I'm looking at the fx30 as the upgrade instead of anything in the ZV line.
Overheating (even at mild temps) is the killer for me - gonna get me a Panasonic S5mkII..
@@salat the s5 is quite tempting too, I'm a simp for Sony and at home in their ui but may look more into the Panasonic.
ZV-E1 has more dedicated features for vloggers who will shoot themselves at 24/30 fps most of the time. S5ii loses auto focus at 6k and HD 120 fps and there is warping /jello at the sides during active stabilisation.
David, you're good and you have your unique style of making videos. With that said, I still miss Brandon.
Hi there! Great video!! However, regarding Temperature, can it be used as camera source to stream 2+ hours on 1080p or also will get knocked off ?
I don't know much of anything about cameras, but if it's mainly being used for video and heat is an issue, then they should make the processor unit be a separate, attachable device (via cable) with active cooling, so you're not limited to just 15 or 30 mins or whatever of recording time before it overheats. Plus it would be cool to be able to upgrade just the processing unit every few years. I mean, it seems at this point cameras are making more strides in the electronics/processing than the actual camera hardware (lens, sensor, shutter, etc) from generation to generation anyways, so why not? They could still keep the necessary hardware inside it for video/photo for portability. Maybe I'm just off my rocker but it seems like something they could do
Nicely done.
I feel like temps will always be an issue with this camera.
Hey, can you compare it to the A7C? Curious which one is better from your experience. Thanks!
David is such a good all rounder of a host, in terms of his interests and knowledge. Nice asset for LMG imo
Finally all these new cameras are slowly introducing all the features that my Samsung NX1 had 8 years ago. Sony is basically the only upgrade option for me feature wise.
LongCircuit with David... *click* NOICE!
Is the 3.5 mm jack also usable for a microphone? like, if I want my camera 2 meters away from me and I have a microphone in front of me...can I use this 3.5 mm jack for that mic?
am i trippin or are the descriptions in the video wrong? at 2:24 it says a7 iv, but im pretty sure the white camera is an a6000 series camera. and at 2:01 david talks about how its quite a bit larger than the zv-e10 and the video shows an a7 iv
I think given the heat problems on the brand new out of the box model, there might be some serious longevity problems with the ZV-E1 (I guess folks will just have to wait and see).
What is the material from which the Sony ZV-E1 is made? Polycarbonate or metal (magnesium or aluminum)?
Thank you for reviewing this and explain it to layman terms
Seems like an amazing all-around video camera.
Budget line-up at 3500$ in Norway. Shit lens and overheating issues. I think the right word her is embellish. You are embellishing bigtime!
Love the jazz in the backgrund :)
quite professional explanation for tech quicky
Same USB adapter to jam timecode? How come? this camera has microUSB port like FX-3? thank you for the beautiful in depht video
Those strap things what are they called? I use the strap the came with my camera and it's just so bad. So i would like to buy a new strap but one that can be used with those "clip-on" strap things, for ease of mounting it to my setup after use
I welcome David being the new camera unboxing guy. I hope he continues in the future
I want a ZV-10 successor; the thing I loved it had the power-zoom toggle, but the video quality and video options out of that camera was not on par with what I would expect from Sony. Would love to build an APS-C amateur rig around the PZ 18-105 f4 lens.
U should have done ur research before buying, ur camera uses the old sensor half a decade ago. Only apsc sony camera that has a new sensor is the fx30
@@MonicaHolly143 Haven't bought it because of the image quality. But the point is, the A6400 has better video quality than the ZV-E10, which is disapointing for a video-centric camera. That was my point.
@@Wistbacka I'm not sure how the 6400 has better image qual than the ZV-E10, given both are sensored the same, and share processors.
@@Wistbacka both lf those have the same sensor hahahaha u just prove u dont really know about this cameras
@@POVwithRC Different software processing. Just look at a side by side comparison. This happens all the time in tech and an artificial way for companies to further distinguish products from one another.
11:45 why this camera have the same sensor as a7s3 but missing 4k120? Maybe sony try to segment by firmware limitation?
Hell yeah David! Nice one.
It's nice to know not every product from every company is a race to the bottom. And actually Sony does a pretty good job with most of its notable consumer electronics. Playstation, TVs, cameras, and headphones are all categories that Sony absolutely kills it in.
I miss David on movie podcast and miss Brandon for cameras. David did good, very in depth
I really like the switch to go between Movie and S&Q instead of popping into another menu.
will you guys do a Panasonic s5ii video?
This was a fun review 😊
4K just doesnt seem reasonable as a default shooting size for the prosumer things I do. I'm curious if this has the heating issues to the same degree with 1080. Is it going to be stuck down to 15 minute chunks only at 1080?
Yep, the 1080p recording still reads out the entire sensor and downscales that recording. You might get a little more recording time since the file writing part of the image processor is handling less data, but not by much.
I feel shortcircuit should be doing unboxing of the latest April fool's gear from lttstore
Hey linus
Make a video where you add cooling to this camera -
- make a threaded negative to the back of the camera ( behind the screen) with a thermal transfer plate attached to the processor
- {to take the heat from the processor to the back of the camera }
- make a small heatsink that can thread into this negative with active cooling
- When you want to record long, flip out the screen and thread in this cooler
- since the transfer plate is in the thread, it won't affect the monitor if you decided to use the camera without the active cooler
This could be a really nice video and you'll get to use a lot of your fancy tools
Please do it ✌🏽
I mean, full sensor aside... how's this compared to an A6400? Got one a while ago and I was thinking of switching maybe to this one if the differences were enough to justify it.
Budget line up.... 2500$+
😂
I think they went way over kill with this camera I think the a7iii /c sensor would have been a much better and more affordable option for this camera. 2200/2300usd is way too much for this type of camera. Great for pro full time TH-camrs but I think a big ask for anyone else
That sensor is slow, Rolly, and not exactly low-light viable. The last thing you would want near a videocentric ZV body. If you want the iii/c sensor, advise to buy the c.
So u will choose a worse and old sensor 5 years ago than a new one that is better at low light, faster read, better autofocus, better color science and minimal rolling shutter ?
Lol
The fast rolling shutter is important for vlogging because of stabilisation for walking
I’m confused with the placement of their new cameras tho. Why go for the FX series when the ZV series exist? Of course I get the amount of buttons available for the FX series but thats about it for the differences.
What about Olympus EM/Fuji X series or even Panasonic GX series?
I’m just in love with my Panasonic GH5 II, I was looking for a secondary camera just in case but the price for this one just cuts me out. I would’ve loved it if it was at 1500$
I would have prefered a sequel to the ZV-1. A full frame point and shoot would have been a true game changer
Or a new rx1r model, that would have been sweet
I hope they update the ZV-1 with a much wider lens. Something like an 18-50 or 16-35.
Point and shoot full frame is the most brainless idea i ever heard
@@MonicaHolly143 Think Leica might argue that point, the Q2 is doing good trade
@@MonicaHolly143Could you explain why?. Why not make it easier to get people into photography?. I own an a7iii and do everything manually (other than autofocus) but have zero problem with others wanting to get into the hobby and have an easier time. Sure maybe they might not take as good images as someone that understands their camera but if they're happy with the results then great.
At 2:22, it looks like you mislabeled the ZV-E10 as the A7IV. Just a heads up!
Nice mech keyboard! Details?
yes! give us more David!
Great great video David
Nice reference to They Live.
The video didn't feel like a short circuit to me. I know the LTT videos don't really match the theme but it was very much more in depth and definitely not an unboxing. David did a marvellous job though.
Does it have that product placement fast zoom?
Does it do focus bracketing/stacking?
I love how they really think 3k€ falls into the budget Camera section. The ZV-E10 is a budget Camera with an interchangeable lens. This is already mid- to high tier looking at the specs on Sonys site.
ZV-E1 and ZV-E10. That’s not confusing at all…
I love David but man it feels weird not having Brandon with us. Hope you're doing well Brandon.
I am glad to see a full-frame vlog camera.
I assume all HDMI out options have a clean hdmi out so they could be used to streaming etc.
i legit thought fx3 was insane for how tiny it is and powerful. Did not expect it to be beaten this bad
Where is the recommended used lens market?
Did you try dummy battery? to avoid heat?
As a camcorder user I would love to see sony put this sort of sensor and features into a camera with the form factor and optical image stabilisation of the AX53. That would be my dream camera.
I have the Zv-1 and LOVE IT. I waffled between that or the newer zv-e10 but stuck with it. This is interesting but 2100$ ouch never mind
I was expecting an April Fools camera review, lol. Wow this is actually a pretty cool product.
It's definitely a step in the right direction. They finally made a decent camera for vloggers that strikes the middle ground between idiot proof & people who want at least some useful features. Definitely not for me, I'll stick to my cheaper APS-C cameras that work great for streaming but are also decent little point & shoot cameras as well, but this is definitely right for the aspiring TH-camr who doesn't want to deal with all those dials, switches, and buttons for photography, but also doesn't want an insultingly bad camera like most "vlogger" cameras before this have been.
Can this be used as a webcam? Continous filming & streaming?
Yes, you can capture through HDMI or USB and you can get a dummy battery for charging or possibly charge it with USB, if your charger is beefy enough.
I like how when he picks the white camera up at about 2:25 it says a7 IV for what is clearly either a ZV-e10 or an a7c..... the a7 IV is a proper full frame body like the a7Riv or a1 ¬_¬
50 watts for a camera seems like an insane amount of power for it to be using constantly. What does it use it for?
I wonder if you could just stick one of those phone coolers to the back to improve the recording time, especially in summer
This camera is like putting a Hellcat engine in a Miata 😅
@22:52 the price : you said at the start budget, feels like april fool to me , you got me there.
If u have knowledge about cameras u will understand that this is a budget, the sensor in this is found on 3200 camera
20:50 a lot of labor jobs are hard to replace because it’s difficult to design a robot that can interact with physical objects as efficiently as a human can. I was a maintenance tech in one of, in not the most, advanced sawmills in the US. A lot was automated, but there were still human operators at certain points in the process where it’s still not practical to automate.
Take a shot every time David says "this bad boy" ;)
Seriously, very drool-worthy little camera!
Entry level, entry level, great price, disrupting the market, *checks price* what the hell is wrong with you?
please more David
Damn I’ve been out of the camera game for years ever since the a7iii came out. Haven’t been keeping up with the trends as my iPhone seems to have taken the casual snap shot role needs