Honest Heart's Development and Cut Content

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  • @TriangleCity
    @TriangleCity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +789

    This 15,000+ word script is the longest I've ever written/recorded. Ended up having to delete about 15 minutes because it had reached a point where Premiere was constantly crashing and simply trying to export it would freeze the program eternally. To even get this cut down video out I had to change some of the effects/graphics. The irony isn't lost on me that this is a video about cut content caused by memory limits and it has its own cut content because of memory limits 😂🤦‍♂️ Projects of this complexity take a lot out of me, so it'll probably be a while before I release anything like this. Huge thanks to the dope people in my discord for helping with research. I hope you enjoy 🖤
    Update: I restored the toast
    www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74886/
    Update 2: Apparently the section about the Yao Gaui scene not happening on the PS3 version is wrong. A friend who has some esoteric knowledge of the game mentioned it and I took it at face value without checking it. The Yao Guai still appears but apparently the gecko doesn't from the comments I've gotten. My bad!

    • @TheGamingTree
      @TheGamingTree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Are we going to be able someday get a Uncut version? Directors cut edition?

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That was part of what I cut out 😢. That line seemingly suggests it was a unique spear, though he does have throwing spears in his inventory so it miiiight be a reference to that, but definitely possible it's a reference to a cut weapon.

    • @bigf00tgaming37
      @bigf00tgaming37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Have you considered doing more Elder Scrolls cut content, or perhaps current fallout games cut content?

    • @niaure6516
      @niaure6516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yours is the best channel that I always look forward too for Fallout content! Thank you for posting this video, the hard work that went into it and likewise for your exceptional back catalogue of effort. Cheers!

    • @joshfarley3343
      @joshfarley3343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      thank you for making my favorite video game into a multi-part documentary. from origin of conceptions to drawbacks on final product is such a great format

  • @waxerwaer9700
    @waxerwaer9700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1795

    53:21
    "Follows Chalk and Waking Cloud have cut scream lines for being set on fire, but Joshua does not."
    Now that's some lore accuracy, as it's said in-game that when Caesar set Joshua on fire and tossed him into the grand canyon, he didn't scream on the way down, so it makes sense he wouldn't scream now.

    • @justeliwood2289
      @justeliwood2289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Joshua should have had a line but he just calmly says "You think this will stop me?"

    • @tylercoon1791
      @tylercoon1791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      ‘I thought I told you, the fire inside burned hotter....’

    • @maximutatro3176
      @maximutatro3176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      *burns in silent agony and in fire*

    • @JohnDoe-vq9ck
      @JohnDoe-vq9ck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Joshua built different

    • @highjumpstudios2384
      @highjumpstudios2384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Joshua should have said something deadpan like "Not again."

  • @MyArchive930
    @MyArchive930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1376

    I'm glad that Honest Hearts kept Joshua Graham's character human.

    • @aidenwall19
      @aidenwall19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah, instead of him being a ghoul or a super mutant.

    • @MyArchive930
      @MyArchive930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      @@aidenwall19 I meant “human” and not the sneering imperialist perk personified.

    • @SUBZERO-rd5oq
      @SUBZERO-rd5oq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      I am glad that they went against the wishes of playtesters. Having a one-dimensional tyrant of a leader would worsen the quality of the story and likely cause most people to help Daniel. I think what they should have done with Daniel is make him distant to Joshua out of fear of him returning to his Legate-form.

    • @kikrinman1450
      @kikrinman1450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@MyArchive930 I think someone that is still present in Joshua's treatment of the White Legs, albeit lessened. The only real reason he treats the other tribes well is to make amends for his past.
      I do imagine he still has some reservations towards tribals, the Bible tends to frown upon tribals and their beliefs. However has learned over the years that despite their differences, their current situation is shared.

    • @dennisthefivestarman8177
      @dennisthefivestarman8177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MyArchive930 cry about it

  • @ryskar_
    @ryskar_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +425

    Surv. Rifle is my favorite Fallout weapon. You can tell the thing has its own story just by looking at it, like the Ratslayer. But unlike the Ratslayer, it’s shown to have undergone rigorous use and constant maintenance, to the point that entire parts are replaced. I love that.

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ratslayer is one of my favorite weapons too, perfect for small to medium game.

    • @ryskar_
      @ryskar_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@FlymanMS Everything (except Deathclaws and other high DT things) is an oversized rat if you squint hard enough. Especially raiders.

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ryskar_ basically anything without good armor

    • @giovannicervantes2053
      @giovannicervantes2053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ginandcreme damn Skippy

    • @cookies23z
      @cookies23z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      100% agree... I honestly love the jam animation too, its the one weapon I *want* to jam because it feels like it should occasionally jam, its an old ass wonderfully storied weapon

  • @Ashephalt
    @Ashephalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    Really wish you could’ve kept the happy trails caravan group alive. I remember reloading the game so many times trying to keep them alive before realizing I couldn’t.

    • @kotzpenner
      @kotzpenner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      lmao same, tried it maybe half a dozen times, until I realized I can kill everybody in the ambush and their heads still spontaneously explode. This pulled the curtain for me lol.

    • @cookies23z
      @cookies23z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      indeed, I liked talking to them and learning about them a bit... stella, even ricky, mess of a person he is.

    • @bobbyferg9173
      @bobbyferg9173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The DLC really does like to start off with doing a complete 180 on your expectations, for better or for worse

    • @ravenred6878
      @ravenred6878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I spent an hour reloading and then giving up and reading the wiki only to find out everyone is scripted to die. 💀

  • @indycole396
    @indycole396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    Zion is probably one of my favourite fallout experiences, easy. The location, characters, story, lore (man in the caves) and just, history of the national park and it’s mix of early post war to modern day post war make the park a great vacation from the Mojave.

    • @8pija22
      @8pija22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      that's really the coolest part, it feels so steeped with history, from the prewar tourists and rangers to the postwar tribes, it just works

    • @giovannicervantes2053
      @giovannicervantes2053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Made me want to actually go to zion and if I get the chance I will

    • @bobbyferg9173
      @bobbyferg9173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@giovannicervantes2053 It is nice to see how many people are inspired to go to Zion after playing the DLC. As someone who has been there a couple times before myself, I have to say that despite how hard they tried in this DLC, there is only so much you can do to try and capture even a fraction of the beauty of Zions National Park in a 2010 game engine, seeing it with your own eyes is another experience all together

    • @giovannicervantes2053
      @giovannicervantes2053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobbyferg9173 I saw a bit of it from videos and my God it's absolutely astonishing

    • @Borals
      @Borals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@giovannicervantes2053 it sucks they’re is a reservation system now I got a reservation for August of next year

  • @mathiascroqvist4719
    @mathiascroqvist4719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    I honestly only wish Stella was a companion and the only other person of the caravan to survive. She was the only one who i found interesting and plus that voice is just pure gold.

    • @MickeyLeeBukowski
      @MickeyLeeBukowski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      You don't want old Dead Eye Ricky as a companion?

    • @mathiascroqvist4719
      @mathiascroqvist4719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@MickeyLeeBukowski if he can get off the psycho and keep his hands from shaking than just maybe he'd be a good companion. But for now, I prefer Stella. She has a steady grip, cool head when tempers flare and funny enough in my game her AI package glitches and she only dies after killing all the white legs at the ambush. Her head just randomly explodes.

    • @mastur3677
      @mastur3677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@mathiascroqvist4719 I prefered the guy who ran the caravan company

    • @thereallonefallout1920
      @thereallonefallout1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@mastur3677 Did you know that Jed Masterson, the caravan boss of Happy Trails, is voiced by Dave Fennoy, who also voices Lee Everett in Telltale's The Walking Dead?

    • @giovannicervantes2053
      @giovannicervantes2053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thereallonefallout1920 and slamin Sammy Stevens of mafia 2 delta radio

  • @fikujez
    @fikujez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +707

    I don't understand why the fans didn't generally like this DLC. Post-apocalyptic tribal villages was one of the cooler new additions to the lore in Fallout 2 and I was so happy that it was revisited.

    • @bobbyferg9173
      @bobbyferg9173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Personally I wasn't a fan of some of the story twists at the start of the DLC like having the caravan you came in with all die or dealing with boring discount native Americans over seeing a society based on a prewar religion only for it to actually be destroyed. Also the DLC had way too much go to X location to collect objects Y and Z. which was something I felt New Vegas tried to avoid in quests due to how uninteresting it is. The DLC also feels really short and perhaps rushes you from one objective to the next without giving you time to explore properly (also only 1 vendor and no storage area made it hard to keep all the items you wanted, at least for me).
      But despite the paragraph of grievances I have with the DLC, I think it still is a solid experience overall. It had some neat quests and very interesting characters and stories like with Joshua Graham and the Survivalist. Like all DLCs you had some items and perks to play around with as well. Also considering it wasn't constantly slogged down with tedious mechanics like Dead Money was, it is already better than that DLC in my book

    • @gunmunz
      @gunmunz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      and the area is so damn pretty, I remember having my jaw drop when after playing most of the game finally seeing a color other than brown(in an era of gaming were most of the color pallet was brown)

    • @Abysia
      @Abysia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      It had no content. As soon as you arrive and meet the tribes you're on the final quest to decide whether to fight or flee. Textbook example of wasting a perfectly good plot, setting, and characters. It could have been so much more

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Abysia yeah. Theres a bunch of side content, but with a limited number of NPCs it made it difficult, especially when they were blowing memory on the caravan group thats meant to die immediately.

    • @daveshif2514
      @daveshif2514 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      its simply the least content of any of the other dlcs. its not bad just not the best and therefor some ppl wont like it

  • @TokimoSoda
    @TokimoSoda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    The more cut content being documented, makes me wish for a total remake using the cut content and cut multiple choices. I wouldn’t care how long it takes, this game deserves more.

    • @TheLazyFinn
      @TheLazyFinn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here, I didn't know that DLC had this much cut content as well, if I knew how to use modding tools I might try something myself

    • @HomeboyUnholy
      @HomeboyUnholy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have hope! The NCR and Caesars Legion get bigger everyday (;

    • @TheLazyFinn
      @TheLazyFinn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@HomeboyUnholy If someone can actually overhaul Caesar's Legion into being a good faction, it would be awesome

    • @conmereth
      @conmereth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've been saying this forever! We NEED Fallout New Vegas: Director's Cut

    • @TheLazyFinn
      @TheLazyFinn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@conmereth Time to learn Creation Engine then :D

  • @docmitchell9032
    @docmitchell9032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +629

    I remember as a kid trying honest hearts and being confused why everyone in the dlc was hostile. I talked with a friend of mine at school and he told me the same problem. Neither of us new we had accidentally attacked Follows-Chalk

    • @exoticmaterials2695
      @exoticmaterials2695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I remember doing that with Waking Cloud. I think as a kid, seeing a half naked bald woman running at you with a bear gauntlet is a little intimidating.

    • @nickhard7615
      @nickhard7615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      I feel like everyone's first experience with Honest Hearts is murdering Follows-Chalk, thinking he was also an enemy, being told to grab a map, doing so, and then going "what the fuck?" when the ending scenes play

    • @dragonfell5078
      @dragonfell5078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@nickhard7615 Pretty accurate. When I first played Honest Hearts I was shooting at the white leg on the cliff, and I probably tagged Follows Chalk by accident in the confusion. I only knew I had made a mistake when I saw he was named character. I rightly assumed he was supposed to be important, then reloaded a save.

    • @FreshBarn
      @FreshBarn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man I ripped off 2 rounds luckily missing before he talked to me.

    • @nihtgengalastnamegoeshere7526
      @nihtgengalastnamegoeshere7526 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, same thing happened to me first time I played Honest Hearts.

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1017

    It sucks that Honest Hearts got the least attention, as it was honestly the most interesting idea.

    • @blueberrimuffin6682
      @blueberrimuffin6682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Imo it was the least interesting idea. I mean, facing down another courier in a world unknown to those after the fallout and having them nuke the world, a casino filled with riches built for a girl, capturing the greed of many, robot scientists making abominations thinking their world is the only one, and a man thought dead helping an innocent tribe. Still interesting just... less so, to me at least.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@blueberrimuffin6682 agreed

    • @raditzhoneyham
      @raditzhoneyham 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@blueberrimuffin6682 okay except you're clearly biased because it you explained HH the same way as the others you'd see OPs point.
      This is a land unknown to ANYONE in fallout. A *natural* land untouched by the bombs, the only change being wildlife. You're so detached from the wasteland, you're meeting what is potentially the start of the next human race. A second wave of native tribes. You team up with an ex legionary hypocrite, a youth pastor, fight bears fight ghosts and save Zion from a tribe with motives worse than the legion: pure destruction and malice. It even has a side story completely optional in terminals only (something fallout fans seem to love) AND faction dialogues with Joshua including legion content which is super rare even in the dlcs

    • @OuterHeaven210
      @OuterHeaven210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I was super fucking excited for honest hearts. When I first played I was a teenager and I didn't like it. Replaying it a while ago as a grown up made me appreciate the story more.

    • @manuelyausaz2976
      @manuelyausaz2976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was that just a coincidence or you tried to squeeze a pun jajaja

  • @germyforev4495
    @germyforev4495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +736

    I have to love josh sawer telling area designers to lower the river beds. Just I imagine some area designer putting the finishing touches on an area and josh going "You need to lower that river"
    Area designer: "Why?"
    Josh: "I threw myself off the cliff and died... I guarantee you our player base is going to be throwing themselves off these cliffs"

    • @absollum
      @absollum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      He's not wrong.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      throwing themselves off the cliffs in frustration yes

    • @Qtoyghs
      @Qtoyghs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      Reminds me of the unused pop-up message from Lonesome Road that says, "Stop jumping off of buildings."

    • @KodiakDunne
      @KodiakDunne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      it's a shame they didn't do that for the bridge at the start because that's the first thing i did and died 😢

    • @Become-Eggplant
      @Become-Eggplant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I see that as another appropriate means of fast travel. Why take the long way down when you can take the "long way down".

  • @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation
    @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +940

    Personally I think this DLC is underrated. And Joshua Graham is probably one of my favourite characters in any game ever.

    • @mastur3677
      @mastur3677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Personally, I prefer Uylesses

    • @headshot531
      @headshot531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i agree i actually had a lot of fun with it. any expansion of the game is worth playing imo.

    • @deadtreb1509
      @deadtreb1509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I prefer Ulyssess, bear bull, bear bull. bear bull, bear bull, bear bull. bear bull, bear bull, bear bull. bear bull, bear bull, bear bull. bear bull, bear bull, bear bull. bear bull, The Old Flag, The divide, bear bull, bear bull. bear bull...

    • @DamnitBobbeh2399
      @DamnitBobbeh2399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@deadtreb1509 bulls, bears, battlestar galactica

    • @zildjian2381
      @zildjian2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i prefer the survivalist

  • @Coolcoolcoolcoo
    @Coolcoolcoolcoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I really enjoyed the serious view on religion they took in this dlc. As he said most games just use it as the butt of a joke or dismiss it outright, which I think is lazy.. It's central to the story of virtually every culture in human history, why can't it be examined honestly the same way politics can be.

    • @wojak-sensei6424
      @wojak-sensei6424 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      FNV managed to handle religion and political philosophies respectfully and in interesting ways. Not bad from a couple of CRPG nerds.

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair, Fallout 3 did something similar with its quest and the Children of the Atom, but it wasnt nearly as in depth as Honest Hearts.

    • @feliciaf8
      @feliciaf8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this literally, it's really lazy and looks dumb doing that

  • @__rex__
    @__rex__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    That comment about the Survivalist logs pushing players to support Joshua is such a big one. Every time I play Honest Hearts, I usually think, "OK, we'll do this the less brutal way this time," but every time I read the Survivalist logs I feel a massive amount of fury towards the White Legs. It would be too disrespectful towards Randall Clark to just let Zion be overrun by those who only wish to plunder.

    • @nicktyrin4401
      @nicktyrin4401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yes, exactly! It quite literally was his will for sorrows to retaliate if needed

    • @wojak-sensei6424
      @wojak-sensei6424 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      There's a time for peace, love, and prosperity, and there's a time to stand your damn ground. The Sorrows deserve to have a home. The White Legs and the Dead Horses can waltz back wherever they came from, but the Sorrows only have Zion Valley. I'd rather for them to lose innocence than to lose their dignity.

    • @Roader72045
      @Roader72045 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In my current play through of Honest Hearts. I was clearing out a White Legs camp for that quest to stop them from planting traps. And I went into vats. Saw the last one had a service rifle, was a little suspicious. Killed him, saw it was The Survivalist’s Rifle. I then decided to kill them all and keep Salt-Upon-Wounds alive for the best ending.

    • @8stormy5
      @8stormy5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Violence isn't always the answer, but sometimes, it's your goddamned right"
      -Nines

  • @ImYourGuyAustin
    @ImYourGuyAustin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    God, I seriously love Fallout new Vegas. It's my all-time favorite game tops.

    • @user-hi4sm3ig5j
      @user-hi4sm3ig5j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It's my all-time favorite game ultra-luxe.

    • @gummyneighborino7217
      @gummyneighborino7217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@user-hi4sm3ig5j its my all time favorite game gomorrah.

    • @molodoy..
      @molodoy.. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Edens gate W

    • @cd-yx3nv
      @cd-yx3nv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's my favourite game atomic wrangler

    • @CrimpyCramps
      @CrimpyCramps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gummyneighborino7217 it's my all time favorite game the tops

  • @jakethesnake4040
    @jakethesnake4040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The religious context involved is super interesting. Personally I find religion to still hold value when you get down to its root instead of listening to everyone shouting about it. So when I had to choose between Joshua and Daniel, I still chose Joshua. Despite understanding Daniel and his views. I found daniels views to be too hopeful and unrealistic when it came to the fallout world. The tribes stayed innocent like they were, because they were isolated in Zion, moving them would’ve resulted in the same problem later on, or simply caused more problems for the tribes. I also didn’t like the idea of giving up their home because they were pressured. Joshua’s views in my eyes while being more wrath than peace, was more of a result in my eyes. They kept their home, got rid of the threat, they may have lost their innocence. But in time, while staying in that environment, they’d eventually regain it. But in my eyes it’s still something they needed to do to survive

    • @jeffumbach
      @jeffumbach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I can't side with Daniel because he's naive, you can't run forever and at some point you have to stand and fight. Might as well do it while you have tactical advantage at the time as well.

  • @maycontainnuts3127
    @maycontainnuts3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    i love how the ambush dialogue indicates how sick everyone is of each other after however long it took them to get to Zion

  • @ThePdog3k
    @ThePdog3k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The story of the Survivalist for me, is my favorite bit of lore in the entire Fallout universe. It encompasses, for me, almost in it's entirety, the bitter reality of what surviving in a post-apocalyptic world would be like. Losing everything, but just trying to hang onto anything good you had left.

    • @Basarius
      @Basarius ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Randall Clark is my favourite Fallout character/lore piece. I'd write how I feel about it but I'd just be echoing your sentiments.

  • @TheValkyre0
    @TheValkyre0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Everytime I think about this DLC. I wonder why they attached those weird quests to Joshua Graham and the tribes when the main story is clearly Randall Dean Clarkes.
    God what a masterfully written character.

  • @williamdunbar2802
    @williamdunbar2802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    All of this really makes me wish that New Vegas gets completely remade one day with all of the stuff cut from the dlc and base game restored, and the dlc load order shenanigans fixed

    • @Golygt42
      @Golygt42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Fnv directors cut

    • @Abysia
      @Abysia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As long as it's remade by Obsidian. Bethesda would, without a doubt, add nothing but trash and ruin all the preexisting content.

    • @Desty0007
      @Desty0007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Abysia like current obsidian os better lmao

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Obsidian has released so many bangers since New Vegas, not sure where the sentiment comes from that they're not the same. Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny and Pentiment are some of the best RPGs of the past decade.

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I did legit kill Follows Chalk on my first time playing Honest Hearts.
    Obviously I reloaded... who the heck would be confused and think that Chaos in Zion is the whole DLC!? XD

    • @nickbrowning3270
      @nickbrowning3270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Literally me lol, reloaded after I got to the sorrows camp and won the shootout

    • @ianmcdonald6617
      @ianmcdonald6617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have a bad habit of killing my companions in the base game, and well, FC and WC got the brunt of my fuck ups in my first go around

  • @_-Achilles-_
    @_-Achilles-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Imagine if the cut “bug spray” was a direct counter to cazadors

    • @TheBuster0926
      @TheBuster0926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Would've made the whole... Big Mountain gene-splicing thing seem even more hilarious.
      All of this science, and all I need is this can of Frabreese

    • @benito1620
      @benito1620 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@TheBuster0926would absolutely fit in with OWBs.
      Or make bug spray instant kill cazadors but only with wild wasteland.

  • @justsegal6578
    @justsegal6578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "That's it? That's the DLC? That was just half an hour of killing tribals!"
    Most people's first playthrough.

  • @Dank455
    @Dank455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Using console commands, I respawned Ricky back into Happy Trails after telling him to leave.
    Another caravan guard is spawned and dies in his place during the ambush.
    Because of this, Ricky survived my ambush and with a console command to make NPCs follow you like companions; I was able to bring Ricky with me through the whole DLC.
    It took some save-scumming to keep him alive, but I was glad of Dead-Eye's company in Zion!

  • @masterblaster2733
    @masterblaster2733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Honest Hearts Makes FNV for me. I appreciate how they portrayed the New Cannanites as a whole. Usually anything involving my Religion in media ends in the butt end of a joke. Who ever wrote the script did a bang up job. Showed how human everyone is and how we can all fall. Keep up the good work Triangle City

    • @gummyneighborino7217
      @gummyneighborino7217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I mean, mormons are pretty easy to make fun of

    • @hyndquart5241
      @hyndquart5241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@gummyneighborino7217 your name is corn gullet. And you have a Steven universe pfp. I imagine you get laughed at constantly irl.

    • @LtSprinkulz
      @LtSprinkulz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@hyndquart5241 doesn't make him wrong tho

    • @hyndquart5241
      @hyndquart5241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LtSprinkulz don't get me started on you. I'd hate to hurt your feeling little buddy.

    • @LtSprinkulz
      @LtSprinkulz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@hyndquart5241 oh no, the reddit warrior has mean words to say to me.
      tbh idgaf about anything a 6 year old account with 10 subs says, especially if they're still uploading from their playstation.

  • @GrievousReborn
    @GrievousReborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Joshua Graham's voice actor voices most of the male Dark Elves in Skyrim

    • @nickelakon5369
      @nickelakon5369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He also kind of looks like colonel sanders.

  • @danieldeangelo4848
    @danieldeangelo4848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I actually really liked Joshua's introduction. He doesn't need to prove he's a badass and doesn't care if the Courier thinks he is one. He has a job to do, and the courier can either help or get out of the way. This sets him apart from the more theatrical Caesar and Lanius, who need to go out of their way to cultivate the authority Joshua naturally exudes.
    The scene also emphasizes his more utilitarian attitude vs Daniels's idealism.

    • @jmjedi923
      @jmjedi923 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read Joshua as Jef at first and thought "ya Jed does seem pretty cool"

  • @jamsanator0511
    @jamsanator0511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    When I first heard Jed Masterson’s voice, I immediately said *”OH MY GOD ITS LEE!!”* lol I’m such a TWD fanboy.

  • @BillehBobJoe
    @BillehBobJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "Honest Farts.... **sigh** nice"
    - Josh Sawyer reading a chat during the oblivion anniversary stream

  • @AidenRKrone
    @AidenRKrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Hearing Joshua Sawyer's thoughts on the religiousness and religiosity between Joshua Graham and Daniel was interesting. As someone who is a lay theologian with a background in Christian theology (even though I don't personally consider Mormonism to be a branch of Christianity), I enjoy hearing about how religion inspired the dichotomous choice between Graham and Daniel. Sawyer stated that a player who doesn't share Daniel's worldview, i.e. the value of nonviolence and innocence, will typically not side with him. However, as a Protestant fundamentalist who understands the theological and spiritual significance of forgiveness and innocence, I too side with Graham rather than Daniel. The Dead Horses and the Sorrows have a biblically ordained right to defend their homeland and protect their tribes. Daniel's plan to evacuate Zion Canyon doesn't solve the problem; it simply prolongs it.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Well said 🖤

    • @markhirsch6301
      @markhirsch6301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I really could never side with Daniel after I tried it once, once I learned they would salt the earth of Zion and reading the survivalists logs I just feel that Daniel has no right to remove them. Zion, even though it's dangerous, is one of the last pieces of beauty in the Fallout universe, destroying it is not an thing I want to happen

    • @lordnorthumberland277
      @lordnorthumberland277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Being Catholic, I'm of the belief that Graham is entirely in the right, and I would argue that compelling Graham to spare Salt-Upon-Wounds is also the correct way to go.

    • @isaiahjoseph7352
      @isaiahjoseph7352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lordnorthumberland277
      Spoilers ahead
      yeah, a few people have basically said that its the right thing to do anyway, the reason being that if you pay attention the dialogue joshua has a strong belief in self defense and mercy. Basically you're keeping joshuas beliefs in mind when you spare salt apon wounds and I mean its not like the 80s dont murder him anyway lol

  • @rattusmaximus1970
    @rattusmaximus1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't get the complaints about Joshua being disappointing. Some of the biggest badasses in history are basically normal people who did extraordinary things and then went back to being normal people. Honest Hearts was a very grounded DLC and felt that way when I went into it. Nothing ridiculous like a midnight science fiction feature, just people being people

  • @lordschmeebles1606
    @lordschmeebles1606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I honestly like HH the best out of any of the DLC's. It doesn't overstay it's welcome like some of the other DLCs, and it's genuinely the most fun area to explore in the game for me.

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Randall Dean Clark and rain.... what more could we want? :)

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "It doesn't overstay it's welcome"
      Dead Money: "Am I a JOKE to you?"
      Can't say same about OWB and LR, those are kinda too long at times 😅

  • @bryanryder7196
    @bryanryder7196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I really wish New Canaan was a location you could visit in this DLC how its talked about by Jed and the almost legendary status it is given as a thriving community in the heart of an otherwise chaotic land filled with warlords raiders and tribal gangs was really intriguing to me

    • @Daedalus4
      @Daedalus4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They couldn't do it for New Vegas and that was the main game. They would never be able to get New Canaan running the way it would need to.

    • @wojak-sensei6424
      @wojak-sensei6424 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I wouldn't imagine it to be "thriving", really. But it would be a generally peaceful and chill place compared to the rest of the wastes.

    • @509Gman
      @509Gman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d love for the next “out west” Fallout to be about New Canaan.

  • @sevenkaylive
    @sevenkaylive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I don’t have enough words to thank you for what you've done for Fallout New Vegas, a game I hold very close to my heart, in all these years. Your research, mod work, datamining, editing, narrating, everything is phenomenal. ❤️

  • @kathrineici9811
    @kathrineici9811 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Follows-Chalk: “Hello there, visitor! Have you seen our lovely-“
    Player: *Screaming, panicking, and shooting*

  • @leadkiss7262
    @leadkiss7262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The devs really said "the time for talk is over" *cuts content* "the lords work must be done"
    *releases dlc*
    *Joshua Graham's eyes start glowing*

    • @leadkiss7262
      @leadkiss7262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Martin the Warrior oh my God that was fucking beautiful

  • @ECytchannel
    @ECytchannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    First time playing it, I thought we would stay with the Happy Trails caravan NPCs but they die on the first encounter with the White Legs.
    Lee, rest in p-... I mean, Jed, rest in peace.

  • @updowne-1224
    @updowne-1224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Loved the dead money one, I can't wait to see this one

  • @SilasGrieves
    @SilasGrieves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I swear, every single time I think I’ve heard everything about FO:NV’s development, I find out that it only scratches the tip of the iceberg.
    It is absolutely *criminal* what restrictions Bethesda put onto Obsidian to allow development.
    Just imagine what NV could have been with one more year in the oven. Or two years.
    Just imagine what Honest Hearts alone could have been.
    We got such a solid game with 18 months development time. And Bethesda even robbed them of a bonus because the game scored one below their agreed upon Metacritic average.
    Bethesda needs to be shamed as much as possible for the rest of their existence for what they did to FO:NV and Obsidian studios.

  • @rainfyre2694
    @rainfyre2694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Zion made me shed a tear with how beautiful the map was, i played dead money and honest hearts back to back and the contrast is insane.

  • @CatnamedMittens
    @CatnamedMittens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I remember asking Sawyer about this dlc during one of his streams and if they had to cut a lot of stuff out of Zion, he said not particularly. They did what they wanted to do with it.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      For a DLC, it has a lot of unused content

  • @autopilot5567
    @autopilot5567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    A side to the story that showed us what the white legs would have been like would have added a lot. Buy by far the more cinematic into would be best.

  • @bendes19
    @bendes19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I love honest hearts. All the other DLCs are so dark and oppressive. Not that HH didn't have dark themes in it (far from it). I just think the environment is beautiful and fun to explore.

  • @agentcoxack7368
    @agentcoxack7368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    (E3 shows Fallout: New Vegas trailer and release date)
    Fans: “YEAH!”
    Devs: “OH FUCK”

  • @jacksonelh
    @jacksonelh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    the most hyped video of the year finally releases

  • @_-Achilles-_
    @_-Achilles-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The joke about Salt Upon Wounds’ toast had me dying laughing, amazing video as always!

  • @TheVeryAngryShrimp
    @TheVeryAngryShrimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love Honest Hearts so much. My favorite DLC, and I wish there was more post-end content, but revisiting it feels so empty and barren. It makes sense, as everyone left, but man....

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do they still leave even if you convince them to stay? I haven't been back after I've left.... maybe I need to start a new playthrough!

    • @TheVeryAngryShrimp
      @TheVeryAngryShrimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RealBradMiller I'm not sure, because I always told them to leave in my playthroughs.

  • @VideoGameSophistry
    @VideoGameSophistry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    THE KING IS BACK! LONG LIVE THE KING!

  • @travistreadway3180
    @travistreadway3180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This was the first DLC I remember spending a lot of time in cause my character wasn't too weak at the time and it was a birthday gift along with the rest of the DLC 2013 was a hell of a time that I miss to this day

    • @TommyWitDaTone
      @TommyWitDaTone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2012/2013 were the years I first played this game. I bought the game summer 2012 and I swear this was the only game I played for the next year. I replayed it multiple times to understand the whole story from each side and I still think about those days all the time. Such a good time in life

  • @VieriTheArtist
    @VieriTheArtist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you very much for making this video. Honest hearts is my favorite of the New Vegas DLC. Follows Chalk is a sweet boy, Waking Cloud I unfortunately didn’t utilize much, Daniel… he means well. Joshua definitely steals the spotlight; Keith Szarabajka is a fantastic voice actor. He gives Joshua an air of sternness with a tinge of Conviction or wrath. I really enjoyed the themes of religion and tribal conflict being in the front and center. It’s just kind of sad that Bethesda really worked Obsidian to the bone to get this out.

  • @LockedPig
    @LockedPig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    During the last playthrough i discovered that you could accidentally kill Follows Chalk and it will destroy entire questline of DLC.
    Follows Chalk running at you after all your party members were slaughtered so what would you do? You'll shot everyone at that moment.
    This is what happened to me. I think it's an example of horrendous game design.

  • @stretch2796
    @stretch2796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I have a real soft spot for this dlc even though its so simple. I just think the atmosphere, characters, and story of this place is so beautiful, immersive, and unique that it grabs me. Whenever I'd play a new vegas character one of the first questions I'd ask myself is, "Would they side with Daniel or Joshua and to what degree?" And I've been able to get a lot of variation from my different characters. To bitter old men happy to destroy an enemy, young starry eyed girls thinking death isn't the answer, to a scarred tribal superimposing her own trauma on this new conflict and using it to confront and grow past that. It's kind of sad people don't love it as much as I think it deserves especially because I thought its depiction of religion was so well handled. I know this video was a draining process to make but I appreciate it so much, thank you and keep up the good work.

  • @jamesmcmackin8773
    @jamesmcmackin8773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I love Ulysses' woke tirade about having his dreads culturally appropriated.

  • @junkie_cosmonaut9622
    @junkie_cosmonaut9622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Honest hearts is my favorite DLC. The lore, the story, Joshua graham

  • @TheScienceguy77
    @TheScienceguy77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always loved Honest Hearts, but this video gave me an even greater appreciation of it. I watched The Mission in a college history class and it truly is a fantastic film; in hindsight I can see how much it parallels and inspired HH.

  • @IpfxTwin
    @IpfxTwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It is absolutely CRIMINAL how underrated this channel is. I watched every second of this. Thank you for the awesome content and all of the effort you put into it!

  • @bobbyferg9173
    @bobbyferg9173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As someone who has been to Zions National Park several times, I have to say that it was great seeing an in game depiction of the park. Although of course, being a minimized game recreation, they could only capture a fraction of the beauty of the park, notably the in game Zion tends to have too much red rock.
    Zion in real life has a lot of black and white rock along with the red rock. There is also plenty of vibrant foliage, more than you’d probably think for a desert. But of course you can’t really fault the devs due to the limited time and resources they had, but I’d say this is all the more excuse to see Zion in person yourself if you ever are near the Southern Utah area

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just needed more sneering imperialist perks options.
    🎩
    🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

  • @wellitsureisntdale1860
    @wellitsureisntdale1860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I thoroughly love in depth content like this, also it’s great to learn about one of my favorite games ❤️

  • @PELTIER5
    @PELTIER5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Imagine the cut weapon bug spray having a unique version that you could craft and you would use Benny's light and maybe some unique limited edition bug spray in the map or something.

  • @darthmeesa2825
    @darthmeesa2825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you for the time you put into this.God be with you.

  • @DawgBreff
    @DawgBreff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It would of been interesting having a choice at the beginning of which of the caravan team you could save, having them as a companion, with your choice of them bringing variation/difference on side missions and outcomes due to their personalities

  • @gbnam21
    @gbnam21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love HH, and it DID make me travel to Zion national park to see it myself. As a fan of FNV who reads up all the lores and stuff, this video is an amazing work. Hope to see more! Also, I really liked that usage of FTL soundtrack in the middle of video.

  • @kotzpenner
    @kotzpenner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really telling how great a game can be when people are talking about it 10 years later. I mean, just the number 62 episode of this series speaks volumes about this.

  • @theNoogler88
    @theNoogler88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:14:00 I had a head canon for why the courier could never reveal to the Sorrows the truth of the Father in the Caves, and in short it boils down to: this belief is very important to them, it has shaped their identity as a tribe, and I'm not gonna spoil that.

  • @josephvickrey5396
    @josephvickrey5396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I fell in love with this game, and played it for at least 200 hours. Did every ending possible, and loved it. Put the game down for a bit, then played it again after all the DLC came out. Holy shit, meeting "The Burned Man" for the first time was so cool.

  • @StarBurstRastaman
    @StarBurstRastaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how anything concerning Fallout on console boils down to:
    "How about no."

  • @johnk.7523
    @johnk.7523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Honest Hearts is so underrated imo.

  • @GwenShep
    @GwenShep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is honestly the one dlc I gladly play with every new character I play, the world space, the weapons and outfits, the characters, its honestly such a good DLC and it makes me sad seeing how much more love they had to add to it

  • @unluckytourist
    @unluckytourist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was my favourite DLC. I enjoyed playing (and enjoyed the loot) from Old World Blues and Dead Money, but they felt like different games/out of place...if you were playing them as normal missioms throughout your first playthrough.

  • @liamplunkett9551
    @liamplunkett9551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    HH is my favorite DLC by far it’s sad how much was cut and how little time they had

  • @TheEpicSands
    @TheEpicSands 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We can't expect God to do all the work. ©
    Thank you for highlighting this great DLC

  • @Forestmarko
    @Forestmarko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    its refreshing to see someone analyzing the content with actual understanding of the lore (and not just speculating on random BS)
    nice, thank you

  • @CorvoFG
    @CorvoFG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    HH is my least favourite DLC for FNV but it has its main saving grace in The Survivalist. One of the best pieces of non-story content ever written. Thanks though, for devoting so much time and effort to this often overlooked part of the story.

  • @adamcarroll3088
    @adamcarroll3088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So thankful for all the work you've poured into this channel. Always a pleasure to see your uploads

  • @Moopig6699
    @Moopig6699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Me: Man, i cant wait for another cut content video from TriangleCity
    TC: I made it an hour an 35 mins, is that ok..?
    Me, through tears: I love you..!

  • @contramachina354
    @contramachina354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm getting real tired of this self-white-hate. There's nothing wrong with Joshua and Daniel being white guys. They sound and behave like white mormons / christians it fits so wel with the game and the story. It works. There's nothing wrong or racist about it.

    • @Evarakeus
      @Evarakeus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "I can't believe this explicitly white, Anglo religion is being represented by the same ethnicity that founded it!!!"
      Not to mention the idea that Native Americans would even be recognizable after ~200 years of miscegenation within the tribes is laughable considering even now they're largely going the way of the Neanderthal

    • @Halagini
      @Halagini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, that part confused the hell out of me. It makes much more sense for them to be Caucasian.

  • @tankacebo9128
    @tankacebo9128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it's actually pretty accurate in scale to the real Zion national park. I went there in summer 2020 on a cross country motorcycle trip, basically my prelude to Vegas. the whole ride through the main road was around 20 minutes, even in traffic that stopped for a minute or two sometimes.

  • @tylertass9983
    @tylertass9983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Such an underrated channel. You deserve way more subs, sir.

  • @Luke_H98
    @Luke_H98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tremendous amount of hard work here. Really enjoyed this one. Thank you for your dedication Triangle, this stuff is amazing!

  • @Duskwalker68
    @Duskwalker68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey man, just wanted to say that these cut content videos are absolutely awesome! I can't even imagine the amount of work that goes into making these.

  • @andreas8488
    @andreas8488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:03:05 Sounds less like a controversy and more like a Non-troversy.

  • @haruruben
    @haruruben 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first impression was unimpressed but the longer I played it the more I became impressed with it. It had a lot of interesting factions and Joshua Graham is a very memorable character with an iconic look.

  • @rosegraham5283
    @rosegraham5283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:18:55 Cowboy Bebop soundtrack... nice!!!
    Awesome video as always!

  • @sirlawrence2284
    @sirlawrence2284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Brilliant. Thank you for your effort. By now you've covered dozens of hours' worth of content and it's a huge achievement for the whole fallout community. Thank you for your work.

  • @Deadlyparasite1
    @Deadlyparasite1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    oh god what a fucking BANGER of a video. thank you for the work you do man, you make such amazing content out of all the people in the fallout community. Please, keep doing what you do for as long as you can.

  • @dan_loeb
    @dan_loeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So this is where you went! Glad to see more content, this must have taken a lot of work.

  • @Pebphiz
    @Pebphiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was very underwhelmed by Honest Hearts when I played through it, but this video gave me a better understanding and appreciation of how much work and passion went into it.

  • @spicydeath82
    @spicydeath82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    all the story dlc for both fallout 3 and newvegas was great, though i do give nv the edge over all. honest hearts was great, just felt empty. was sad to enter certain caves and found absolutely nothing inside. but it makes more sense now. was meant to be deeper.

  • @Zaphlyn
    @Zaphlyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is probably my favorite of the dlcs as it felt like I unlocked a new open world instead of just an area, you cannot return to Dead Money's area, and while you can return to The Divide and the Big MT, this one felt the most populated, with a plethora of new characters and things to find

  • @Subject_Keter
    @Subject_Keter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The detail I really like is How the Native langauges can be traced to Proper langauges.

  • @St33lStrife
    @St33lStrife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Modders who restore cut content: We can't expect God to do *all* the work.

  • @hideakiakio6698
    @hideakiakio6698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's unfortunate that the team making the simply uncut mod disbanded because there's still so much cut content that no mod restores

  • @jevilwithayoutubeaccount955
    @jevilwithayoutubeaccount955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason why Joshua's Armor didn't include the bandages is because they had MAJOR clipping issues

  • @Jamicaman516
    @Jamicaman516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ive been waiting for the other DLC cut content for quite some time. THANK you for putting all the effort in to bring this to us!

  • @giovannicervantes2053
    @giovannicervantes2053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There should have been an added effect for taking the scripture with you everywhere you go which meant you had a 5% increase to critical hit damage and it would be nicknamed God's favor

  • @realspartan5206
    @realspartan5206 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A lot of people forget that asking Joshua about salt upon wounds wasn’t cut, it plays literally right after you walk out of the sorrows camp

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought the white legs were a bunch of whiney edgelords - the second I discovered Ulysses trained them it suddenly made sense

  • @theanthropologuy7775
    @theanthropologuy7775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honest Hearts wasn't my favorite, but I loved Graham and the story of Randall Clark