George RR Martin on Why He Created So Many Characters
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A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Author George R. R. Martin Interview
"Having thrown the balls in the air I feel compelled to keep on juggling them."
That's a great phrase
Yeah, GRRM really has balls.
_rim shot_
Yeah, he should be a writer
@@FalloutOfTheWindow What could be whose porn star name?
@@avalus6 Ha!
Rimshot
I won't lie, I'm quite obsessed with GRRM's interviews. Love the way he speaks.
He isn't pretentious which is appealing. He is just jolly
Has vocal fry, good writer
Same man
I like your username
I love the way you speak
He really is a fascinating individual. I could listen to him talk all day.
Absolutely.
Yea, even better I could read his books all day. Newer ones, preferably ones that start with The and Winds.
@@xavierlucky397 ikr!
he says the same shit in every video...but i watch them all intently still
@FuckYouAllToPieces Santa Claus who kills all the good kids.
Great interviewer. Interesting questions and he lets the guest answer them properly before shooting off the next one.
Yes. And he looks so much like Jimmy Kimmel.
He's very quiet, patient, asks good questions, doesn't laugh at things that aren't funny, and doesn't go "uh huh" "uh huh" "uh huh"
And at 3:02 he hears "I forget real people instantly" and his face drops as he realizes that, dispite being a somewhat famous person and spending presumably a fair bit of time talking with the man in front of him, he will be lucky if Martin will remember him tomorrow
Yeah, the last couple GRRM interviews I seen was female interviewers that constantly interrupted him and talked over him.
plotlines questions was kinda stupid tbh
Moral of the story:
Well, GRRM doesn't kinda forget.
No he forgets everything. Dumb ass..... he has a habit of making mistakes.!!!
@@doxasophosmoros Yeah, okay. Where?
@Sky Dome hahahahahahaha okay, that's pretty bad, but he does have a lot of characters to manage, and I'm guessing that was when Bran was past the wall (which he still might be in the books, but I'm not sure.) Anyway, do you have a link to a clip of that?
@@agchains78543 search for "GRRM literary corner", when he said he forgot Brann, he meant as in he forgot to menction that Brann was present in a scene that was from the POV of Jon, so its a pretty small thing
“Yeah Dany kinda forgot about the iron fleet”-D&D
People fail to realize this is why Martin's work takes so long and is so difficult to write
That and he's not working on Winds of Winter 100% of the time
Yup, he has paused Winds of Winter many times. Cons, interviews, scripts for shows or editing of other novels tend to have gotten on his way. I think he just easily gets distracted.
@@JesusGonzalez-pg9mp or wants to do more with his life than devote the entirety of it to writing? Regardless if it's his work, his passion. Breaks are needed, and he's only human. Being a writer myself, I could never bring myself to devote half my life to doing it no matter how passionate I am about it. And writer's block can put A LOT of pressure on you when you're struggling to move the story forward properly the way you'd like
this author can't even finish his books.. he has issues and is trying to pretend he's superior and better than others, saying he's a genius etc and not like others which Grrm Literally says here. And the interviewer knows he's full of crap with a huge ego, and can't finish his story.
The whitewalkers didn't add up to shit, so Martin can lie on the spot to market his work , he's a Hollywood writer so that's His job! But he didn't have any of this in mind at the time of writing. He's spinning his wheels and acting like a fucking philosopher or historian,lol he's just a fantasy writer!!! He's all tolkien worshipping , he even added the extra R to his name to copy TOLKIEN.
Dude is talking like he invented a new genre FFS.. he can't even finish the books. His ego got ahead of him and he can't come to terms with his, so he over complicates it further.
@@doxasophosmoros Hey, dude. You don't need to copy and paste your reply to every single comment. Btw, I understand that you're likely upset with the end of GoT, but GRRM didn't cause that, and you're just being an asshole.
From 9 to 35. *Laughs* _I'll never finish their stories_
"How do you do that?"
"By never finishing the stories of course"
@The Law I'll be happy if Stannis survives. I know that he will probably die, but I feel sympathy for the man.
@The Law not at all!! And he could at least be honest by admiting that he'll never finish them
@0Riam0 SPOILER ALLERT yes I know but at least I will bring my brother Gregor with me
How about appreciating that this man created a brilliant story for all of us to enjoy. He’s earned the right to do whatever he pleases for the remainder of his life.
3:02 "I forget real people instantly"
Lmao that reaction face of a somewhat famous person realizing that he will be lucky if the person he's talking to will remember him tomorrow is _gold_
That was gold lol
Who is he? Should I know him?
No I think he's thinking this author has can't finish his books.. he has issues and is trying to pretend he's superior and better than others, saying he's a genius etc and not like others which Grrm Literally says here. And the interviewer knows he's full of crap with a huge ego, and can't finish his story.
The whitewalkers didn't add up to shit, so Martin can lie on the spot to market his work , he's a Hollywood writer so that's His job! But he didn't have any of this in mind at the time of writing. He's spinning his wheels and acting like a fucking philosopher or historian,lol he's just a fantasy writer!!! He's all tolkien worshipping , he even added the extra R to his name to copy TOLKIEN.
Dude is talking like he invented a new genre FFS.. he can't even finish the books. His ego got ahead of him and he can't come to terms with his, so he over complicates it further.
George RR Martin pauses, "Sorry, what was your name again?"
TessLo so when’s your fantasy book coming out?
We need a history of world war II written by George RR Martin from all points of view
@Tim Yerves I don't think I actually realised I needed this until now.
@Accretion Disk and every minute of it.....nah,I'd rather get on with my own life
He would probably finish the WW 2 faster than Ice and Fire
@@mateussouza936 patience dude.
i would rather have that but about wwI ,since that war didnt have a clear "villain"
Thank you for uploading these videos so regularly, they are really informative.
Plus, he can make many mistakes and then cover it up by saying well it was another perception... Lol.. he's a fucking hack. That's why he needs a team of co writers and he still can't finish
And he fucked up when he added more stories, soap opera Esque rather than finishing the plot. And we all know the plot means nothing cause his ending is what game of thrones showed us. That's confirmed.
I'd guess the problem with this writing pattern are time-lines.
You can't easily manage various occurrences when they're happening through the eyes of various characters, it takes an immense amount of time to get it right, especially with 35 POV characters.
Let the man take his time, It'll be worth the wait, I'm sure.
John Doe to be fair there’s only 19-20 POV’s in Winds.
well more than a decade for a book we may still havent got a confirmation that it wont take another decade
Actually he stated that wow will be published before summer 2020 so 1 year it is
Well he said the date before only to not made it, hopefully the bad finally motivated him.
@@furkanayyildiz3743 Well, actually, he implied that he plans to have it finished/published by July 2020 (not "before" that summer)...
This guy is a genius. There aren't writers like him too often, he is one in a million. He will be remembered one day, next to Tolkien.
But he is also king of lingering.
Easy there
“Oh the better to kill off more characters, my dear.”- wolfgranny George RR Martin
I like hearing his interviews thanks
I'd like them more if he finished the books!!
@@aquaticasmr184 at least I'll bring my brother with me!!
Maybe my opinion is very far off but
I think this interviewer does a perfect job of LETTING THE MAN DO THE TALKING. I’m sure it’s edited to an extent, but these are in depth answers...enjoyable
One of the most incredible storytellers of our time. ❤️😭🤧👏
Hands down 🙌🏾🤯👸🏾
No. Cause this author has can't finish his books.. he has issues and is trying to pretend he's superior and better than others, saying he's a genius etc and not like others which Grrm Literally says here. And the interviewer knows he's full of crap with a huge ego, and can't finish his story.
The whitewalkers didn't add up to shit, so Martin can lie on the spot to market his work , he's a Hollywood writer so that's His job! But he didn't have any of this in mind at the time of writing. He's spinning his wheels and acting like a fucking philosopher or historian,lol he's just a fantasy writer!!! He's all tolkien worshipping , he even added the extra R to his name to copy TOLKIEN.
Dude is talking like he invented a new genre FFS.. he can't even finish the books. His ego got ahead of him and he can't come to terms with his, so he over complicates it further.
@@doxasophosmoros lol you might take the cake for the most triggered person I've seen in the wake of the Game of Thrones ending. Keep it up :P
Bunch of of fucking losers thats why you think youre a part of something grand watching tv when youre being fucked by the ruling class. Zombified dorky losers.
@@aineomaille4332 no you're just Drinking poisoned Kool aid and it sucks to see. Grrm is a hack. He's only found cause of the show..you didn't even know what got was until HBO,admit you fucking denial ridden deluded prick lol
The interviewer looks like he could be Jimmy kimmels brother
Except he’s tremendously less obnoxious than Kimmel
Damn!
Johnny Bravo dude be rude now
Or one of Baldwin brothers
You think the ASOIAF series has a lot of characters? Try reading the Targaryen history book Fire & Blood. Goodluck keeping track of who's who.
Gustavo Tinelli Well I'm glad you were able to keep track of more names than there are pages in the book. Bravo I guess?
Because Fire & Blood deals with more but shorter stories, keeping track of Fire & Blood was much easier for me. I only had to keep track with certain characters for hundred or two hundred pages instead of multiple books.
Passione Nera but did you memorize the timeline since Aegon the conqueror?
@@LivingTheGoodTimes yup
fire and blood was much easier to keep track,shorter stories with no 3 person view,also almost all the characters were from king landing,from nobility,name association becomes easier,in asoaif you have a shitload of character that are common people
"Having thrown the balls in the air I feel compelled to keep on juggling them"
I don't think D&D made it to that lesson
That "hehehe" was filled with regret😂 Really love the vast amount of characters though.
Thanks god for GRRM and TOLKIEN
Damikano Fakikano the walkers will have their justice LONG LIVE THE NIGHT KING
Tolkien is still better tho
@@ComradeHellas Debatable
@@ComradeHellas i prefer asoaif over lotr every day
And Pratchett
Stannis is the one true King and will crush the bastard of Bolton
...Okay.
H H i just started watching im on episode 4 season 1, i think this Ned Stark guy is great hopefully he ends up on the iron throne after season 8
Ryan M he does sorry
@@Ryan-yo9go Well one of these two characters is still alive in the books, sooo...
Don't you call him that! Never call him bastard!
4:20 GRRM: the petty struggle for the Iron Throne is just a distraction from the real threat, the Long Night
HBO: LOL the Long Night is just a slight distraction, all that matters is who's gonna be king, who's gonna be on the small council in the end
The strategy of creating many characters has the short-term gain of keeping the audience from feeling safe about the fates of main characters, but it takes on a long-term debt to resolve all those character arcs satisfactorily and roughly at the same time. The show writers couldn’t pay off that debt convincingly, but I wonder if GRRM can in his books.
ASOIAF is one of the only series where I can list the top 100 characters, and still feel I missed out on a lot of great characters
4:19 I feel vindicated. After so many dumb arguments about whether it was thematically appropriate to kill off the Night King at the Battle of Winterfell, and follow it up with the sacking of King's Landing, here's the author himself laying it out:
*NO IT BLOODY WELL ISN'T*
What on earth are you talking about?
Also, GRRM have given the show creators the ending of the books. I'm sorry you didn't like and is this upset, but going through unrelated interview and projecting your opinion upon people is venturing into Alex Jones territory. Just calm down.
The problem is less that the Night King died early on but more that his death had little to no impact on the remaining narrative. At one point I thought that the Battle of Winterfell would significantly diminish Dany's forces and/or the morale of the North but nope, things were scantly changed.
It's really less about the plot points and more of the journey between them that the show completely botched.
@@WheresPoochie you're right. The show writers basically violated the fundamental rules of film/ scene writing. Each successive scene needs to involve a goal/ conflict/ & change and build on those before it. Within a series, that same arc needs to occur within each episode, & each season & overall. It is super difficult. In the end, it was too much for these writers to accomplish w/o the details of GRRM's books. Yes he gave them the outline but it's not the same
He also mentions Daenerys Targaryen as a threat which you seem to ignore
This interview was done many years ago, like during the second season you deluded boot licker
An interviewer who doesn't interrupt 🙏
He can write so many characters because he kills them off!😂😆
This man is a Genius
Yet he envisions a shit ending for his books. Those idiots Dumb and Dumber learned how GOT ends from him. He also plans to kill Dany in his books.
@@michaeltrumph121 nah m8, as long as he shows a pattern/path of Dany becoming the Mad Queen I think it's fine. Also he's established that when Targaryens are born "it's a coin flip". D&D still suck though
Michael Trumph no he didnt he gave them super brief spark notes please dont comment about the ending of the books if theyre not out or even written you dumb fuck.
@@michaeltrumph121 the only reason it was shit was because of the journey of us getting there. The red wedding is shit writing if you butcher the character building and actions and plotting because it becomes a shock just for shock rather than a story building moment that trajects the characters to do the things they do and afterward leaving you wondering 'what now' in a satisfying way instead of saying 'that was pointless'.
@Atlas Rise I sweated...from my eyes of course.
Game of thrones sparked my imagination again. I’m going to start my Novel soon.
amazing interview I was looking for this thank you very much
I'm so immersed in this series I will literally read a chapter, take a youtube break, and watch one of these interviews during my break then feel motivated to read another chapter. and so on and so forth. i haven't thiught about anything else in days.
I love listening to interviews of George RR Martin, he's so interesting.
Even if he never finishes the series I am so thankful for the world and story he has created even unfinished I am utterly obsessed with it
That last answer was so not expected. It shows the ultimate brilliance of this man.
What I love about the world GRRM has created and the way he writes is that we get the sense that the Seven Kingdoms and the war for the Iron Throne feel like an entity in themselves. It's a huge, dynamic, ever-changing web of motivations and allegiances, and a lot of people in this story exist at the mercy of it unless they know how to "play the game".
To me that's what makes ASOIAF stand tall in the fantasy genre--through these many perspectives, we get a glimpse into that terrifying, cold, brutal machine that serves as the heart of the story
This interview confirms the meaning of the tittle “A Song of Ice and Fire”, this is about Jon and the threat from the north and Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons from the East. This is their story.
Yes.. song of ice and fire is about daenerys and jon snow
insert shocked pichachu face
Well every character has equal importance in the story .in a leaked conversation of George with his publisher he said main characters of his novel are Tyrion Jon dany bran and Arya.In this interview he means that a song of ice and fire means ice (others) which are coming from North and dany with Dragons coming from meeren (fire) .George have previously said that a song of ice and fire is not a one man's story
@@alphagamer9505 there was people who thought that Jon was the song of ice and fire, which this interview confirms it's not.
He seems like such a cool, down-to-earth kind of guy. Really easy to understand, whatever he's talking about. I can, (and apparently have been,) listen to these clips all day. 👍
Thanks for this channel!
As an aspiring writer, I dont think I've ever heard so much useful information from an author other than R.R. Martin. Man has a segment to help you thhrough every moment in which you feek stuck.
This channel is absolutely goated.
With so many characters I just hope he brings each thread to a conclusion
"I'm biting off more than I can chew!" Yeah that's me too! I'm writing my own fanfiction and the family has grown pretty extensively.
Where can I find your work? :D
I could listen to him talk all day lol
Great interview and interviewer excellent video.
"having thrown the balls in the air, I do feel compelled to keep on juggling them"
just wow... that's a great sentence
I love this man’s mind and how it works. I admire anyone who makes as much sense as he does in these nonsensical times that we are in. Definitely my favorite book author.
ASOIAF: Medieval World War 2.
GOT: A couple of kids fighting over a toy in the backyard.
More like Medieval World War 1, since it's a bunch of monarchies squaring off. Lol
@LordVader1094 And was all started by someone being assassinated for political gain due to alliances set up years before.
@@Longshanks1690 Precisely.
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England
I love how long your name is. I can’t even see when you posted your comments cause it’s off the screen.
you just blow my mind,never though of the similiarity in ned killing with the imperor of austria-hungary
Awesome answer on viewpoint characters.
The honest answer: "well... i sort of don't"
He does though
Shut up. He does
George is a true Mastermind. Only a Mastermind can envision multiple points of view at the same time. In great detail.
Love your books!Love Loved the GOT. Series I can't wait to see what you come up with in the future!!Keep up the good work. Devoted fan 😊
this is so pure
@@landcaster1234 Whatever, weeb.
Enigma people have been saying this since the last book came out. cmon, he’ll be fine
Such an interesting video, this guy is a legend
Love this!
This man deserves respect and fantastic credit.
His books and The One Piece Manga have so much in common, as far as the structure to the story goes. There are so many different stories doing on at the same time and they intertwine in someway. And even when you are not following a main character there is always something happening in the background so the world itself feels alive. It is remarkable.
Nice to see a fellow one piece + asoiaf fan
@@craz5634 A fellow Nakama I see 🤝🏽
Your channel is amazing! Thanks a lot for these interviews, it's a great source of information and entertainment regarding this gigantic universe of George Martin. And no one better to listen to about the creation than the creator himself! Keep it up!
Love you sir RR martin. You are the best writer to me.
4:12 He says threats - meaning more than one. It was never just about stopping The Others.
And to keep track of every single character smh the beauty about his writing is that you get so immersed in the side characters you are left wanting more yearning more .
Not to make extra work for you but could you add the date of these interviews?
I imagine less people would click when they realise this is from 2012.
I was thinking 2015. I still don't care, I like to hear RR Martin talk about GOT.
And that’s it ladies and gentlemen... the peripheral threats ARE the most important ones; from the horses mouth no less. Part of the reason I feel D&D so totally messed up this last season of GOT.
Its not really a video about "How" he manages that many characters, but rather WHY he created so many of them.
edit: The title of this video before was "How does George RR Martin manages so many characters?".
Oohh shut upppp
He does answer the titular question though. He makes lots of characters because he needs multiple points of view in order to show what he wants.
@@Haiiro87 no, he writes POV so so he can excuse all the inconsistencies.
It's so weird seeing David Schuster interview Martin... Huge fan of them both
What a legend
Imagine a multiple point of view drama about WW2! That would be incredible!
And the tv show decided to pretty much ignore half of them. Such a shame
People who only watched the show mourn the death of their favorite characters.
People who read the books lament the death of their favorite plots in the show and that their favorite characters never appeared.
HBO made him famous. And the end is the same, the rest of his books is filler and fluff.
@@doxasophosmoros
Wrong and wrong.
The interviewer is like Jimmy Kimmel’s long lost brother
This finally proves to all those people that George also thought that the fight for the iron throne was petty, and that the real threat was from the white walkers (and Dany). So why kill the white walkers (and Dany, but more the white walkers) so easily? Literally 1 episode. they couldn't even kill Samwell - how dangerous could they possibly have been? Such a rushed and disappointing ending
Yep! I mean it's been established already that D&D just wanted to be done with GOT and rushed the ending. They were offered money for 10 seasons. Initially they the show would only be 7. Then they caved and did 8.
I really really wanna have a conversation with this guy
He needs to finish his book. People say In his “blog” he doesn’t like being asked about his book but he’s guaranteed millions of dollars in sales. Not that doesn’t mean he can’t take is time but still.
the author has an assistant to complete the book. I think he has completed his last two books but is still in the process
This is why the Song of Ice and Fire will never be finished. It's become a juggernaut that even he can't get to the end of it.
He shouldn't be too worried about those outside threats that threaten us all, like the others. According to the show, they aren't too difficult to deal with.
Never have to manage characters if you don't write any books *taps forehead*
"They are so concerned with who's gonna be king, who's gonna be on the small council, who's gonna be in charge of all these policies, that they're blind to the much greater and more dangerous threats that are happening far away, and that are on the periphery of their kingdoms."
I think it's safe to say that the Others and Dany won't be taken out as easily as on the show
yeah,but i believe the order will be the same,first the others,then dany
Now let us ask D&D the same question
They kinda forgot the question
Wish I could have dinner with George or have some drinks and just chat it up.
I could listen to GRRM talk for days
GRRM doesnt forget and thank god for that. so looking forward for these books.. take ya time g.. i know youre not gonna do us wrong so take your time 😭
he literally gives you the vision of his ending here and D and D still made it underwhelming lol, and they fucking knew the ending..
Genius
I love this guy
For a second I thought that the interviewer was a clean shaven Jimmy Kimmel
He wrote himself into a corner with how many side stories there are. This is a major reason as to why he may never finish the story. Tolkien told a masterful epic story that focused on only the most important aspects. George has spent so much time on details not needed to tell the story.
He should have saved some of these sideplots for novelettes published after ASOIAF.
What is crazy is that he still writing those side things, like the fire and blood that he wrote, which he says he has a second he is writing. Also, I think his answer in the interview pretty much sums it up. You can't tell the entire story of WW2 from one perspective. Yeah, and you also can't tell the entire 'complete' story of WW2 in a 5 book trilogy. You could in fact write an entire 5 book trilogy on WW2 from the perspective of a single person. He definitely bit off more than he could chew.
In hindsight hearing him describe it this way seems like a dead giveaway that Dany is an antagonist along with The Others/The Night King. She has depth as a POV character but ultimately she’s a looming threat to the 7 kingdoms.
exactly.
he's so fucking interesting, i could listen to him talk all day .. drawing inspiration from WW2, hundred years war, war of roses with environmental issues so seamlessly and entertainingly, what a brilliant MIND!
Great!
short answer: he manages them by forever postponing the release of the next book
dude if he didn't have the book when he is in new Zealand the next year we can imprison him
the man is confident this time
0:08 the first and last time that I'm gonna hear a genuine laugh from the george lol
JRR Tolkien: hold my silmarils.
The vocalizing of this interviewer is over 9000
Perfect host for george
I do a bit of writing and I find it SO limiting to only have a single POV character, i don't know how people can write a giant, expansive world from one character view or stay in their head for so long.
The tugboat captain speaks many truths. A master of the craft.
The interviewer refers to the many conflicts and events in George's books as "King's Landing".
4:18 - well, Dumb & Dumber sure missed the point, as many of us have been saying for a while now, but hearing it from Martin makes the problem even more evident.
All the people saying "It is called Game of Thrones, not the Battle with the Others", "It was all about the throne" should see this video.
Obi not a total defense for season 8, but to be fair he did say “threats.” So id say Daenerys being the other great threat.
Yes, yes and 1000 times yes. Dismissing the entire Others/Night King plotline with Arya teleporting behind the big bad guy shows how much D&D don't give a flying fuck about the story
@@joshuafletcher4501 I don't take the plural to be that precise. He was talking about the Others if I am not mistaken.
@Atlas Rise Consider that perhaps Ice & Fire apply to more than a single individual or faction. George likes to let you think you have figured something out only to reverse it or reveal that it meant something else. Yes on the surface, Ice is the White Walkers and Fire the journey of Dany but it could also be Jon as both Ice & Fire and his internal conflicts plus as an added point when the Starks and Dany come into conflict in regards to the North, Jon has to decide where his loyalties lay. The show ended exactly in this way.
It's true, King's Landing is so full of drama that, when Night's Watch warn of monsters, and tales come of dragons reborn, the Lannisters are almost deaf to literally apocalyptic threats approaching.
You seem like a proper fan of GRRM, do you know when is his next interview\talk with the audience is going to be?
Woah.
When I read each chapter is told from the POV of the character, I assumed it was told from a 1st person pov depending on whos chapter it was
Well, kinda. The third person he uses is super narrowly focused on the thoughts and senses of the character. It's as close to first person as third person gets.