Man these two guys seem really passionate about bringing a song of ice and fire to the small screen. There is no doubt in my mind that they will give us a satisfactory ending.
@@coleeckerman1390 I would think it would be a lot more fleshed out in the books than the simplified garbage we got. My issue isn't the ending, it's how we arrived at the ending
Kevin Robinson Its not DD, they did great turning a masterpiece into a simplified enough version for TV. But GRRM didn’t let HBO have merchandising rights, so they decided to end the show quickly and start the prequels where they did have rights. Did you really think DD were sailing their fleet back, and miss a chance to finish their 8 year show?
Lightning Farron There was some things changed because the tv audience would need more episodes to understand the large book, like little finger giving Sansa to Boltons, and I wish in the show he was more like able and people trusted more, but both characters are great and they converted it well.
@@schliischeel6567 If he passed (heaven for bid) Id hope that maybe there would be enough material to do a world of ice and fire for the main series so we can have closure.
It is still pretty sad to think even if Winds comes out this year we are still a good 6 - 7 years before ADOS gets a release date. That's at least 2025/2026. Who even knows what my life will be like then, let a lone George's? What kind of projects, ideas will he be juggling?
@@SublimeCS I think that his story and ending has become so complex that he wants to finish a dream of spring partly before releasing winds of winter so everything lines up correctly. so he can fact check everything and fix errors before release. that is why it has taken so long.
His writing is brilliant. The way the perspective, mindset, dialog, and motivations morph chapter to chapter, character to character. Hard to beleive one man created all these well developed characters in one story.
GRRM told D&D how the story would continue and how it would end when the show reached the end of the books so what's happening in the show will happen in the books.
@@theM4R4T actually it's true. In philosophical sense the main story is justifiable. But, in practical sense no, because the reasoning is not solid enough. The problem with GRRM writing pace is not that he dont know the ending (he always know what the ending will be mainly), but like what he said in this video, he struggle with the journey to the ending. Every small details always keep coming up, and he want a perfect story. I dont blame him though, the story have grown much bigger than how he intended or imagined. It's his magnum opus after all. I just hope that he can finish it
@@TheAndymacm Well he told them the end of somme the characters, Bran King, Jaime and Cersei deads etc, etc. But he didn't told them how thats going to finish like that, first cause he haven't wrote that and second the series ignored several plots from the books, so is quite imposible we are going to see the same exact end.
Marvel's might and fan base makes game of thrones look like nothing. Besides, there arent 7 avengers movies, those are the big titles. The others do well, but there arent 7 avengers
There’s no way a movie per book would be sufficient or true to the text. Anyone who’s read Lord of The Rings and the Harry Potter books know how much was cut from the books in order to fit into a movie
Martin is very fortunate that as a living writer he's been able to maintain a high degree of creative control on the adaptation of his work onto the screen. Tolkien's response to the preposterous outline screenplay sent to him in 1957 by Ackerman and Zimmerman gives I think, some insight into what his response would have been to the 'Hobbit movie Trilogy'.
GRRM is the JRR Tolkin of this generation! Genius! So glad he said "NO" to hollywood, and decided to make GoT into a HBO series! Right choice not to make it movies!
@@kingjoffrey3732 Agreed, unfortunately D&D has turned this into a superhero suddenly saves the day BS movie! So, Winter (NK) was coming for 7 1/2 seasons and was done in 1 freaking episode?? GRRM, they definitely are not!!
You can either have now a rushed, mediocre novel that will be forgotten in a few years. Or you can have an epic masterpiece of literature that seals itself in society for hundreds if not thousands of years- but you must wait another few years. If anyone chooses the former, may the stranger have mercy upon their soul.
@@fatfrankthepeteacher4237 Damn those are high expectations, if Winter isn't the best book ever written then you're gonna have to eat your words pretty hard.
@@fatfrankthepeteacher4237 except twow took longer than it takes to earn a phd and a more than 70 year old obese man doesn't have much time in his hands.
The integrity and humility of this man is so impressive. Every interview I see him in, he's never bragging, he's never letting the hype gas him up, he's so polite to everyone, and his perspectives always put his story and the craft of writing ahead of his ego and the money. God bless him.
I don't necessarily agree that GRRM portrayal of women has been negative at all. I feel like its been actually very wonderfully real and at times has shown just how much power women have had in history and in general, but that reality has often been overlooked. If anything one could argue that his stories are even wonderfully feminist. I mean... by the end of season 7 of the show many of the major houses are leaded by women. Cersei is the queen of Westeros on the iron throne, Dany is the last dragon come to claim the throne for herself, Sansa has taken up the role of wardeness of the north as Jon bends the knee to Dany. Arya has rebelled completely from her role as a women in her family to instead become this badass assassin defending her family. Even Brianne of Tarth goes against tradition to become a knight, and a damn good one too. Even the women of Dorn conspire to overthrow the ruler there and his son and take control. The Greyjoys are run by yara now that Theon has been reduced to a eunuch. The women are essentially running the whole of Westeros by the beginning of season 8 and obviously there are some leader male characters too but to call GRRM story sexist in any way is absolutely ridiculous. I mean he even wrote the whores in the story as complex and intelligent characters. And thats part of why I love the story... it's not just that he writes powerful women, but he writes them earnestly. He writes the pain they go through and their trials as well as their victories. And most importantly he doesn't write the men strictly as villains. The men are equally fighting for the throne as much as the women are. Which is something I loath from stories that just want to make a bland feminist story for the sake of feminism. I know he didn't go out if his way to write something feminist, he was just writing truth... and thats whats great. I think people who want to complain about sexism in the story like Sansa getting raped or maybe even cersei (although the way that scene was written was different from the way it was portrayed), people complaining about these things just want to see boring stories of strong women without ever seeing how they are hurt or the trials they go through. That kind of feminist is just... in short, not very smart. The story is a brutal one with very graphic sex and violence. Its not for children whatsoever. I would argue not even for adults if theyre not mentally prepared or mature enough... But its truth, and the truth about life is that it is fucking brutal as hell. To everyone.
The source material ran out at the end of Season 5, though. And Season 6 was definitely better than Season 5. I think D&D just got a little too carried away by the coke binges and stopped giving a shit about something they were bored of, and wanted to move on to greener Star Wars pastures. GRRM said he had enough material to feed them material for 3-5 more seasons, and HBO gave them a blank check, but they simply were not interested. GRRM himself stopped being actively involved in production in Season 5, which coincides with the point at which most people consider it to have "gone bad." But honestly I think that cutting the Tysha plot at the end of Season 4 (and thus removing all of Tyrion's character development in the following season) was the writing on the wall. Alas, what might have been.
@@kyliehubbard5062 i'm pretty sure george gave them a bunch of book material to use for season 6 as he has a good chunk written but ultimately hasn't finished yet
I dont think it was that they ran out of source materail GGR gave them a treatment im sure of his last two books. But i do think they wanted to wrap the show up in 8 seasons and didn't think ahead of how that'd ruin the end.
@@kyliehubbard5062 Monday QB's. Most people didn't think it went bad at season 5, that's such BS, you hardly heard one complaint until season 7 and the massive outcry didn't start until during and after season 8. And to think D&D didn't have source material is peoples wishful thinking. You honestly think GRRM didn't give D&D the broad outline of how he had thought it to end?!?!? Ofc he did, they're just not nearly as good writers and as you said was fed up and wanted out. I would almost die laughing if the books finally come out and are the same ending only way more fleshed out!
The books are very hard to read by English and I'm not a native speaker so I read it in arabic translation and it was one of the most beautiful moments in my life although I didn't read any fantasy novels before but yeah that was one of the most important books I have ever read. And I Respect Martin for he is a great writer and I can't wait for winds of winter and dream of spring. Look even the title of the books and the whole series is very potrice. Much love to you goerge and to our beloved readers and friends Comrad from borkina fasso in africa for those who don't know where the heal is this country 😂❤️
What are those two idiots even doing now? They fucked up the ending to game of thrones and then they acted like fucking children and said no to star wars, so what's left for them now? I hope they've disgraced themselves so much that nobody would wanna how them again
But why the hell did he not say "NO" to the way they did s8ep3?? "NO" is a sexy word, but it is even sexier when it is used to protect your life´s work. Why would he allow this travesty??
Yes but he could have retained creative control. Passing that control to those hacks was a big mistake. Even if it meant putting season 8 on hold, it would have been better to wait until he finished the book. Haste is the enemy of perfection, and we see it here, plain as day.
THE CRAZY GUY It was absolutely diabolical and has disgraced the legacy of the show. The fact you enjoyed it shows your lack of understanding of ASOIAF
Well, he never would've liked the night king in the first place. He doesn't like characters who are surface level evil for no reason, which is what the night king is.
GRRM’s genius changed TV and pop culture, proving how powerful a writer’s imagination can be. Without these incredible storytellers movies and TV would’ve never been revolutionized.
I would love to read the two books that remain unwritten. But I'm SO glad and thankful for the five books I've read and for the hours and hours of great films I've watched over and over that even if the show doesn't end as I would like to, or even if the 6th and 7th books never hit bookshelves, I'm still fascinated with what I've experienced and humm The Rains of Castamere or Jenny's Song and remember how I got to care for a one handed incestious knight that murdered childern, a dragon queen and a bastard with the bluest blood as I walk on the streets. Thanks Mr Martin.
Money surely did play a role in this disaster. Filming at night means you can skimp on the costs to animate the scenes. If you can´t see shit, you can´t spot the mistakes. There was so much source material to provide a better story finish, that the way they went is insulting. I always envisioned the end to happen at King´s Landing, and that the cache of wildfire would play a role. Or even have The Mountain deliver the killing blow to the NK, since he is already dead, but under magic control. Picture the possibilities. So many ways it could go, and we got this abomination! I lost all interest in the show now. If all the characters have plot armor, the chances of an exciting conclusion are nil.
@@Biden_is_demented exactly, this last season had so luch source material and potential but what HBO did with it was a slap in the face to all viewers that arent braindead.
@Kevin Begley >"If HBO did care about keeping the thinking audience, they would never have produced 8e03! You could argue the same with some previous episodes, but this one can’t be denied." This is just ridiculous conspiratory nonsense revealing you have little understanding of how stuff works. HBO's production team may have a say in terms of budgets, and also input in the quality of the product, due to its huge popularity. But the overwhelming responsibility is with the writers of the show -- and the directors (who are actually the saving grace of GoT; even in episode 3, the direction was really well, with all of the strongest parts coming from there) of course. But in regards to the issues we talk about, the writers have the sole responsibility here. And it's fairly obvious people like you, who didn't start criticizing before episode 3 of season 8, are very unaware of any of this. Game of Thrones took at a nosedive already from Season 5 and onward (with clear examples of bad quality in single episodes of season 4, even). Season 5-7 were all full of bad writing and story-lines as well, especially season 7 and 5. As for season 8, all the episodes have been "bad" (as in compared to season 1-4) overall. And it's not due to some HBO conspiracy, but to Benioff and Weiss being terrible writers. In the earlier parts, most of their job relied on adapting the brilliant storytelling and dialogues of GRRM, with the "weak" parts, aside from budgetary limitations, being how well or bad they did the adaptations. But in later seasons, where they've been forced to make original content, you truly see how bad they are as screenwriters. Sociopolitical and historical depth and themes of the story, that were engraved in everything Martin wrote, is long gone. Characters are just caricatures of themselves, repeating the same lines and actions as before, with minor variations, rather than actually providing new stuff ( Mormont girl does the same "I'm not a little girl schtick"; Jon keeps having his "doom and glory" monologues; Jorah gives Dany "hard truth" advice that she inevitably accepts; Davos gives convincing speeches, etc.). And the stories, actions and consequences, all engraved in the super-realistic and anti-conventional style that defined GoT is now full of conventions and Hollywood cliches; conflicts and battles that used to have strategic weight behind them in earlier seasons, with focus on troop numbers, movement, logistics and positions, is thrown out of the window in later ones. Characters that used to die randomly and unjust, due to bad decisions, now continuously survive the most ridiculous situations (Beyond the wall plot i S7, Jamie charging Dany in S7, everyone surviving everything in S8E3). And even those who die, die a heroic death (Jorah, Edd, Mormont girl), in complete contradiction to GoT storylines (Robb, Ned, The Viper, etc.) Even deus ex machinas, which GRRM absolutely hated, are appearing all over the place. And notice that this has been going on for quite some time. Despite that, people like you did not even once complain about it, and seemed to enjoy the show quite a lot when it was going on. The chessy dialogues and cliched screewriting, that has been dominating since season 5, and the complete reversal of everything the world of Song of Ice and Fire was, and also in many ways demonstrated in earlier seasons, was not criticized by any of you in all that time. No criticism of inconsistent pacing, with unnecessary filler in some places and rushed plots in others. No criticism of plot directions that are full of logical fallacies. No calling out of the butchering of certain characters, or the awful dialogues (like the Sand Snakes). You then go on writing "Finally, HBO offers nothing for the thinking audience (save Real Sports, which is brilliantly ironic). They do offer some shows which masquerade as thoughtful", again demonstrating how you're completely out of touch with reality. Last year HBO produced Sharp Objects, which along with AMC's The Terror was the best show of 2018 and a masterpiece worthy of a spot alongside the greatest shows of that channel. Over the last few years, Olive Kitteridge, The Deuce and Big Little Lies have also continued to substantiate HBO's quality TV reputation. It may not be the golden days of The Wire, Sopranos and Rome, but the channel is still providing great quality among all its other mainstream stuff.
Kevin Begley well the imagine this: I got this from an acquaintance at HBO. Game of Thrones was intentionally ruined. The ending was butchered on purpose. In about a year and a half or so, just before election season, they will announce that they have an alternate ending or something like that, but they will only release it if Donald Trump does not get re-elected. I hear that HBO was directly ordered to do this 2 years ago by whoever controls Hollywood. (Most likely politicians). Btw I don’t give 2 shits about politics. I don’t even vote. It sounds crazy just wait and see.
I use to get so upset that I could never get passed 1 chapter of the scripts or novels I write, wondering what was wrong with me and if I am cut out to be a writer....and then I heard of GRR Martin, and saw how he takes his time to curve and cut every piece of his sculpture until he can't do anything else but marvel...this man is a genius for not going the hollywood route and not letting people dictate his story or rush it out.
@@nicoleolinger7633 not really, even though my man is taking 82 years to drop WoW lol, hes still not letting peer pressure or Hollywood dictate when his book should be finished
Copyd the Comment by @Willoughby Krenzteinburg People send George RR Martin letters all the time telling him that they threw his book away midway through it because they didn't like some storyline choice he made. Your opinion is not special. You're never going to please everyone. That's just a fact. You are simply on the side of disliking a choice made. Your observations are not objective truths, and there are plenty of people on the other side. Far more actually.
ya na it’s not about the actual shows ending but rather how they got their in this fast forwarded manor without properly telling the story, leaving it very empty and making these huge jumps where character development would have needed a lot more time to be told properly. So this has nothing to do with George rr Martin but rather the show writers who chose to only doing 8 reasons with the last being shorter, rather then the 10 seasons hbo wanted, which would have given them the time to properly tell the story in depth.
@@Jdb63and again happen something...u just cant make things up man american quality products i guess well i assume airbus will just rule the market now since boeing doesnt care anymore about quality
People send George RR Martin letters all the time telling him that they threw his book away midway through it because they didn't like some storyline choice he made. Your opinion is not special. You're never going to please everyone. That's just a fact. You are simply on the side of disliking a choice made. Your observations are not objective truths, and there are plenty of people on the other side. Far more actually.
Why is it sad? Martin barely has a role in the show. He gives them some notes (but he’s stated his story naturally evolved), and the show writers are absolute shit. Seasons 5-8 are nothing related to his story’s even the first 5 share barely a resemblance
@@factbeaglesarebest You're far off base when you say the first 5 seasons barely share a resemblance. They are very very similar and even Martin himself has stated it is the best adaptations from books he has seen on film or television.
Willoughby Krenzteinburg yeah well no film adaption in this genre has done true to the books. LOTR was great film, but a disservice to the original content. The first season here was great, it naturally missed a lot of great stuff, but as I said consistently deteriorated. 6,7, and 8 so far are pure GARBAGE compared to Martins writing
@@factbeaglesarebest You're being far too hard. The writing has definitely lost a step, but what is the alternative really? You are clearly partial to Martin's writing, and that is a perfectly reasonable opinion. When they signed on to do the show 10 years ago, Martin was confident he would have the story finished. That didnt happen. Martin has literally added nothing to the story that existed at the time they signed on and were told the source material would be there by the time they needed it. It wasnt. Are they supposed to just go on hiatus for an amount of time Martin doesnt even know at this point it will take to finish the story while all the actors age by 5, 10, 15, who knows how many years? What would you have them do? The only thing that will satisfy you would be Martin's writing and asking or expecting them to be Martin is insanely unfair. It's just unfortunate, and if you want Martin's full story, you have to wait for the books. It is what it is.
I love when something so excellent and plot dense just comes to someone. Its something you cant prepare for. You either experience its beauty from someone else or the beauty comes to you in your imagination. Its a wonderful and mysterious thing.
It's been a great story so far, but we will have to wait until the end. The ending of a story is the most crucial part and it separates great stories from true masterpieces. I really hope and believe that the ending of GoT will make it a masterpiece.
Kasey Lee lol the Bible has some great stories in it , I suspect none of you have actually read it front to back, you’d be surprised how much literature is derivative of it in one way or another. You don’t need to believe in God to appreciate it.
@@blastoiseddr one could argue it's his humility and respect for those who paved the way that allowed George to cement himself as the Tolkien of our generation. you know, aside from his incredible talent and creativity as a storyteller.
I still remember the day years ago, I thought in my mind " what is with this game of thrones" that everyone is talking about... Now I am suffering like every body else waiting for the next book... It's going to be a huge moment of pause when he passes from these world... I am getting all choked up just thinking about how sad that day will be...
Me too! I love the show but I turned into a book snob after getting to a feast for crows! I wish the show would’ve stayed faithful. I LOVE all of it but seasons 1-4 were masterpieces. Best thing ever put on a screen imo.
Dark Wizard nope. Edit: oh I thought you were saying season 6 was bad! Dude season 6 is SO good and I love it. Contains some of the best episodes and moments, but I still wouldn’t call it a masterpiece like 1-4. But it’s like 9/10. Just has some really awful moments sprinkled in regarding the Iron Born, Braavos and Dorne.
Pure genius! GOT will go down forever in history. Thank you George, for an amazing fantasy with medieval world of literature, turned best series on T.V. Hats off to D.B, and Dave, for your instincts to bring to HBO!! :) BRAVO!
"I should be doing that right now. You're interfering with me. I'm sure this book will be a year late just because of you." Martin is genuinely funny. I love his humor so much! 😂
That exchange between Catelyn and Jamie is probably the best detailing of how what seems black and white can very much be grey. Probably one of the best exchanges Martin ever wrote. 17:40 "Nobody's going to commit to that (seven movies)" Oh George, if only you could've known how big of a hit the MCU would be.
Meanwhile from D&D: "That dragon that couldn't fight ships sunk them all, the Dothraki didn't get slaughtered a couple of episodes ago anymore and Cersei gets killed by a brick".
His life's work is forever stained with the travesty that is ep3. He should've never allowed such hacks to create a show based on his unfinished work. Sad. Tolkien stands alone.
The world will likely never see the likes of Tolkien and Martin again. Those two minds devizing the most complete worlds down to geneology, geography, languages, history, religions, mass characterizations, other-worldly beasts and beings ect. And they did it each in their own way....their own style. Neither is better than the other. They are equal but different. Two geniuses whose minds had no limitations.
Seeing George in that black RX-7 got me thinking, is he still a car guy? I'd gladly be his mechanic, build him some rotaries and such. He can easily afford to enjoy the hobby now.
You stand in the presence of King George of House Martin, the Raymond, the Richard, the breaker of common traditional fantasy tropes, the King of the Procrastinators and the Unmet deadlines, Ruler of the Seven Writers Blocks.
I just keep watching the series and for example when Jon joined the wildlings, he told Mance Rayder the story of how Craster gave his babies to the white walkers and that lord commander Mormont knew about it and chose to ignore it. After this Jon said something along the line of "I want to be on the side that fights for the living. Did I come to the right place?". Jon thought to say this to Mance on the spot and if he hadn't said something similar I doubt that Mance would ever take Jon into his wildling camp. In the history books, though, I know that the books will most likely only say "And then Aegon Targaryen joined the Free Folk, led my Mance Rayder" and I think that that's pretty interesting
i hope he takes the time to finish the story on his own terms. In my mind there is the part of the series inspired by the books which is a pure joy: paced skillfully, high stakes and deep character development with very complex morals and ethics, aaaaand then there is the rest which is a significantly skinnier plot, feeling sort of rushed event-wise, with a biased writing and low stakes. and that is an understandable choice because they dont have entire books to harvest inspiration from anymore. I really hope he finishes it. im not a booky guy, but man would i be glued to such a book.
It’s always baffled me how these types of writers come up with so much depth. Tolkien obviously was ocd about his world and I think Martin is too. You have to really start caring about characters to make up an ancestory and languages for them.
Hearing David and Dan speak about the books so passionately makes me feel sad to think about how they basically froze George out of the writing process after season 4 and wrote a fanfiction with a budget.
Just more democrats using Hollywood as their stepping stone after they inevitably sell their soul to the kiddie touching devil , who happens to be the father of all polticians and hollyweirdos.
Well, maybe it would be for the best that he never finishes it then? The show will end and the fans will always wonder about what could have been the most amazing ending to a series ever. I have a feeling that by creating an alternative ending (tvshow) it messes with how he see the ending in the books. Especially considering how the audience will react to the ending of the tvshow.
"when we went to Goerge it was probably like that bluff where you mistakenly think you have it straight but u actually don't" now that explains a lot about the shit that has been going down in Season 8
Gosh, I've not watched many interviews with this guy until recently and he seems like a thoughtful and chill dude. I hope he lives long enough to finish his story. I'm not reading the books till they are all written and I would love to see this story finished by the author himself.
He’s my favorite author! Absolutely love his books. In the meantime I’ll re read the five books again! Cheaper than buying the DVDs, at least until I save enough to buy them lol
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Awesome video!!!! The story of his life is incredible!!!!!,George RR Martin is a legend!!!!! He has a great creative mind!!!! He has created a masterpiece!!!!,BEST WRITER!!!!!
Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the performances, directing, episodic writing, cinematography, directing, visual effects, or production value; surely not!
Honestly I see a lot of criticism and not enough gratitude towards David and Dan, first five season of the show I enjoyed a lot, and without them we might not have ever seen the game of thrones or heard about SOIAF series.
Man these two guys seem really passionate about bringing a song of ice and fire to the small screen. There is no doubt in my mind that they will give us a satisfactory ending.
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RIP lol
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Lol Bran is that you?!?!?
Lol aged like fine milk
"they all wanted to simplify the story"
Oh boy....if GRRM knew what was coming
Kevin Robinson He wrote the ending, it will be the same in his book
@@coleeckerman1390 I would think it would be a lot more fleshed out in the books than the simplified garbage we got. My issue isn't the ending, it's how we arrived at the ending
Kevin Robinson Its not DD, they did great turning a masterpiece into a simplified enough version for TV. But GRRM didn’t let HBO have merchandising rights, so they decided to end the show quickly and start the prequels where they did have rights. Did you really think DD were sailing their fleet back, and miss a chance to finish their 8 year show?
@@coleeckerman1390 You don't read the books, do you?
Lightning Farron There was some things changed because the tv audience would need more episodes to understand the large book, like little finger giving Sansa to Boltons, and I wish in the show he was more like able and people trusted more, but both characters are great and they converted it well.
I don't care when the last two books are finished, so long as they are done to the best of George's ability
Yeah, well, I still would like to read them, so I'd be very thankful if they are released before he or I die :D
@@schliischeel6567 If he passed (heaven for bid) Id hope that maybe there would be enough material to do a world of ice and fire for the main series so we can have closure.
It is still pretty sad to think even if Winds comes out this year we are still a good 6 - 7 years before ADOS gets a release date. That's at least 2025/2026. Who even knows what my life will be like then, let a lone George's? What kind of projects, ideas will he be juggling?
@@SublimeCS I think that his story and ending has become so complex that he wants to finish a dream of spring partly before releasing winds of winter so everything lines up correctly. so he can fact check everything and fix errors before release. that is why it has taken so long.
me too, it would be better if they were never finished than rushed !!
So Bran whispered the first chapter to George..
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bran warged into the grrm
No that didn't happen. Bran is a fictional character.
@@Josh-it6uy You only believe that because Brann makes you believe it. His goals are beyond our understanding.
@@Josh-it6uy That is what Bran wants you to think.
His writing is brilliant. The way the perspective, mindset, dialog, and motivations morph chapter to chapter, character to character. Hard to beleive one man created all these well developed characters in one story.
He truly is one of the greats.
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He’s a top 10 in the literary world.
@@TLiebCNVHAHHAHAHAHAH YES
George is such a legend
a FOOKIN legend
only uncultured swine would say that. he's just mere contemporary writer.
I wish someone remake the whole season 7 & 8 when GGRM has finished the novel.
GRRM told D&D how the story would continue and how it would end when the show reached the end of the books so what's happening in the show will happen in the books.
Remake from season 5. Or better from the beginning.
@@TheAndymacm Is that what you tell yourself at night?
@@theM4R4T actually it's true. In philosophical sense the main story is justifiable. But, in practical sense no, because the reasoning is not solid enough. The problem with GRRM writing pace is not that he dont know the ending (he always know what the ending will be mainly), but like what he said in this video, he struggle with the journey to the ending. Every small details always keep coming up, and he want a perfect story. I dont blame him though, the story have grown much bigger than how he intended or imagined. It's his magnum opus after all. I just hope that he can finish it
@@TheAndymacm Well he told them the end of somme the characters, Bran King, Jaime and Cersei deads etc, etc. But he didn't told them how thats going to finish like that, first cause he haven't wrote that and second the series ignored several plots from the books, so is quite imposible we are going to see the same exact end.
Season 8 has turned into the single character arc that he was trying to avoid
Except season 8 had no characters
"...im already at 7 movies, nobody's gonna commit to that..."
Marvel would like a word with you, George
Marvel's might and fan base makes game of thrones look like nothing. Besides, there arent 7 avengers movies, those are the big titles. The others do well, but there arent 7 avengers
It's easier with the family-friendly approach. You take the grittier route it's much harder.
@Primordial Vengeance Okay, boomer.
There’s no way a movie per book would be sufficient or true to the text. Anyone who’s read Lord of The Rings and the Harry Potter books know how much was cut from the books in order to fit into a movie
Tmoney 1823 exactly and many people who don’t read actually end end up believing the watered down versions TV/Movies are true to the books.
Martin is very fortunate that as a living writer he's been able to maintain a high degree of creative control on the adaptation of his work onto the screen.
Tolkien's response to the preposterous outline screenplay sent to him in 1957 by Ackerman and Zimmerman gives I think, some insight into what his response would have been to the 'Hobbit movie Trilogy'.
Cat Hat I loved the hobbit book...but the film...was a let down.
The hobbit is the The hobbit not another lord of the rings
Wish he had maintained that high degree of control for the past few seasons....
Rippingthosecheeks Hey Has nothing to do with how it’s supposed to end. It’s that there was no story arc in the show to get you there.
@Rippingthosecheeks Hey it's about the journey .. Season 8 was like watching a compilation of its best wtf moments...
GRRM is the JRR Tolkin of this generation! Genius! So glad he said "NO" to hollywood, and decided to make GoT into a HBO series! Right choice not to make it movies!
if it were movies,only the first book is equal to 4 movies of 2h30min
And GoT sadly became what it stood against, tropes, plot armor and happy go lucky bs
Sadly the show has deteriorated into Hollywood garbage.
It was the wrong decision to pick D&D as show runners though.
@@kingjoffrey3732 Agreed, unfortunately D&D has turned this into a superhero suddenly saves the day BS movie! So, Winter (NK) was coming for 7 1/2 seasons and was done in 1 freaking episode?? GRRM, they definitely are not!!
I don't mind it takes a little longer to write the books because I want quality. But at the same time it's been almost a decade now.
You can either have now a rushed, mediocre novel that will be forgotten in a few years. Or you can have an epic masterpiece of literature that seals itself in society for hundreds if not thousands of years- but you must wait another few years. If anyone chooses the former, may the stranger have mercy upon their soul.
@@fatfrankthepeteacher4237 Damn those are high expectations, if Winter isn't the best book ever written then you're gonna have to eat your words pretty hard.
@@fatfrankthepeteacher4237 except twow took longer than it takes to earn a phd and a more than 70 year old obese man doesn't have much time in his hands.
The integrity and humility of this man is so impressive. Every interview I see him in, he's never bragging, he's never letting the hype gas him up, he's so polite to everyone, and his perspectives always put his story and the craft of writing ahead of his ego and the money. God bless him.
What are you weighing that against? Which interviews with writers are opposite of GRRM's?
I don't necessarily agree that GRRM portrayal of women has been negative at all. I feel like its been actually very wonderfully real and at times has shown just how much power women have had in history and in general, but that reality has often been overlooked. If anything one could argue that his stories are even wonderfully feminist. I mean... by the end of season 7 of the show many of the major houses are leaded by women. Cersei is the queen of Westeros on the iron throne, Dany is the last dragon come to claim the throne for herself, Sansa has taken up the role of wardeness of the north as Jon bends the knee to Dany. Arya has rebelled completely from her role as a women in her family to instead become this badass assassin defending her family. Even Brianne of Tarth goes against tradition to become a knight, and a damn good one too. Even the women of Dorn conspire to overthrow the ruler there and his son and take control. The Greyjoys are run by yara now that Theon has been reduced to a eunuch. The women are essentially running the whole of Westeros by the beginning of season 8 and obviously there are some leader male characters too but to call GRRM story sexist in any way is absolutely ridiculous. I mean he even wrote the whores in the story as complex and intelligent characters. And thats part of why I love the story... it's not just that he writes powerful women, but he writes them earnestly. He writes the pain they go through and their trials as well as their victories. And most importantly he doesn't write the men strictly as villains. The men are equally fighting for the throne as much as the women are. Which is something I loath from stories that just want to make a bland feminist story for the sake of feminism. I know he didn't go out if his way to write something feminist, he was just writing truth... and thats whats great. I think people who want to complain about sexism in the story like Sansa getting raped or maybe even cersei (although the way that scene was written was different from the way it was portrayed), people complaining about these things just want to see boring stories of strong women without ever seeing how they are hurt or the trials they go through. That kind of feminist is just... in short, not very smart. The story is a brutal one with very graphic sex and violence. Its not for children whatsoever. I would argue not even for adults if theyre not mentally prepared or mature enough... But its truth, and the truth about life is that it is fucking brutal as hell. To everyone.
Great summary!
Keb Lee I’m not reading all thst😐
@KebLee Your profile picture with the hamster is glorious xD
Well said.
Keb Lee you just said everything that I was thinking.
They need to redo the show with the ending he creates. Literally when D&D ran out of source material they just had no idea what to do.
Exactly and what’s sad are many people haven’t read the books and think those last seasons are actually part of the real story
The source material ran out at the end of Season 5, though. And Season 6 was definitely better than Season 5. I think D&D just got a little too carried away by the coke binges and stopped giving a shit about something they were bored of, and wanted to move on to greener Star Wars pastures. GRRM said he had enough material to feed them material for 3-5 more seasons, and HBO gave them a blank check, but they simply were not interested. GRRM himself stopped being actively involved in production in Season 5, which coincides with the point at which most people consider it to have "gone bad." But honestly I think that cutting the Tysha plot at the end of Season 4 (and thus removing all of Tyrion's character development in the following season) was the writing on the wall. Alas, what might have been.
@@kyliehubbard5062 i'm pretty sure george gave them a bunch of book material to use for season 6 as he has a good chunk written but ultimately hasn't finished yet
I dont think it was that they ran out of source materail GGR gave them a treatment im sure of his last two books. But i do think they wanted to wrap the show up in 8 seasons and didn't think ahead of how that'd ruin the end.
@@kyliehubbard5062 Monday QB's. Most people didn't think it went bad at season 5, that's such BS, you hardly heard one complaint until season 7 and the massive outcry didn't start until during and after season 8. And to think D&D didn't have source material is peoples wishful thinking. You honestly think GRRM didn't give D&D the broad outline of how he had thought it to end?!?!? Ofc he did, they're just not nearly as good writers and as you said was fed up and wanted out. I would almost die laughing if the books finally come out and are the same ending only way more fleshed out!
George has such a beautiful mind. He is a national treasure.
The books are very hard to read by English and I'm not a native speaker so I read it in arabic translation and it was one of the most beautiful moments in my life although I didn't read any fantasy novels before but yeah that was one of the most important books I have ever read.
And I Respect Martin for he is a great writer and I can't wait for winds of winter and dream of spring. Look even the title of the books and the whole series is very potrice.
Much love to you goerge and to our beloved readers and friends
Comrad from borkina fasso in africa for those who don't know where the heal is this country 😂❤️
David Miscaviage fuck off
Its pretty easy to read actually even as a non native emglish speaker. Its my 1st novel which i started reading recently.
@@anonymousman1282 I will try that when winds of winter is realeaed since that my English is better now
@@anonymousman1282 it is relative to what your native language is. English is very different coming from Arabic.
Hard to believe it's been nearly 10 years since the GoT premiere..... memories!!
We should have D&D rewatch this they seem to have forgotten to "keeping with the spirit of the books"
They never understood the spirit of the books - or politics, history, military strategy, dialogue, or human nature.
Around the 19 minute mark they also mention fooling George by saying the have no skill or experience....
@@Grewyn7 fuck D&D
What are those two idiots even doing now? They fucked up the ending to game of thrones and then they acted like fucking children and said no to star wars, so what's left for them now? I hope they've disgraced themselves so much that nobody would wanna how them again
David Benioff:
"D & D kinda forgot."
Sexiest word of hollywood...NO. Priceless
Yup, and I'm glad he said it
I’m not gonna like your comment. There is the word sex in it and the amount of likes it got is 69
But why the hell did he not say "NO" to the way they did s8ep3?? "NO" is a sexy word, but it is even sexier when it is used to protect your life´s work. Why would he allow this travesty??
@@Biden_is_demented he is not involved in the show anymore. He isolated himself to write twow.
Yes but he could have retained creative control. Passing that control to those hacks was a big mistake. Even if it meant putting season 8 on hold, it would have been better to wait until he finished the book. Haste is the enemy of perfection, and we see it here, plain as day.
I wanna see what he has to say about this last episode
@THE CRAZY GUY "look how they massacred my boy"
THE CRAZY GUY
It was absolutely diabolical and has disgraced the legacy of the show. The fact you enjoyed it shows your lack of understanding of ASOIAF
Well, he never would've liked the night king in the first place. He doesn't like characters who are surface level evil for no reason, which is what the night king is.
He's ignored the show for years now, doesn't even watch. And he hasn't read script for season 8. :D
@@wr9411 Uh yeah, you realize the Night King isnt even a character in the books, right? Who doesnt understand ASOIAF again?
I love the series. I have the audiobooks and have gone through the whole series a few times.
I love the dialogue overlapping the internal monologue.
GRRM’s genius changed TV and pop culture, proving how powerful a writer’s imagination can be. Without these incredible storytellers movies and TV would’ve never been revolutionized.
I would love to read the two books that remain unwritten. But I'm SO glad and thankful for the five books I've read and for the hours and hours of great films I've watched over and over that even if the show doesn't end as I would like to, or even if the 6th and 7th books never hit bookshelves, I'm still fascinated with what I've experienced and humm The Rains of Castamere or Jenny's Song and remember how I got to care for a one handed incestious knight that murdered childern, a dragon queen and a bastard with the bluest blood as I walk on the streets.
Thanks Mr Martin.
"these guys seem like they really know what they are doing"
Money surely did play a role in this disaster. Filming at night means you can skimp on the costs to animate the scenes. If you can´t see shit, you can´t spot the mistakes.
There was so much source material to provide a better story finish, that the way they went is insulting. I always envisioned the end to happen at King´s Landing, and that the cache of wildfire would play a role. Or even have The Mountain deliver the killing blow to the NK, since he is already dead, but under magic control. Picture the possibilities. So many ways it could go, and we got this abomination!
I lost all interest in the show now. If all the characters have plot armor, the chances of an exciting conclusion are nil.
@@Biden_is_demented exactly, this last season had so luch source material and potential but what HBO did with it was a slap in the face to all viewers that arent braindead.
@Kevin Begley >"If HBO did care about keeping the thinking audience, they would never have produced 8e03! You could argue the same with some previous episodes, but this one can’t be denied."
This is just ridiculous conspiratory nonsense revealing you have little understanding of how stuff works. HBO's production team may have a say in terms of budgets, and also input in the quality of the product, due to its huge popularity. But the overwhelming responsibility is with the writers of the show -- and the directors (who are actually the saving grace of GoT; even in episode 3, the direction was really well, with all of the strongest parts coming from there) of course. But in regards to the issues we talk about, the writers have the sole responsibility here.
And it's fairly obvious people like you, who didn't start criticizing before episode 3 of season 8, are very unaware of any of this. Game of Thrones took at a nosedive already from Season 5 and onward (with clear examples of bad quality in single episodes of season 4, even). Season 5-7 were all full of bad writing and story-lines as well, especially season 7 and 5. As for season 8, all the episodes have been "bad" (as in compared to season 1-4) overall. And it's not due to some HBO conspiracy, but to Benioff and Weiss being terrible writers. In the earlier parts, most of their job relied on adapting the brilliant storytelling and dialogues of GRRM, with the "weak" parts, aside from budgetary limitations, being how well or bad they did the adaptations. But in later seasons, where they've been forced to make original content, you truly see how bad they are as screenwriters.
Sociopolitical and historical depth and themes of the story, that were engraved in everything Martin wrote, is long gone. Characters are just caricatures of themselves, repeating the same lines and actions as before, with minor variations, rather than actually providing new stuff ( Mormont girl does the same "I'm not a little girl schtick"; Jon keeps having his "doom and glory" monologues; Jorah gives Dany "hard truth" advice that she inevitably accepts; Davos gives convincing speeches, etc.). And the stories, actions and consequences, all engraved in the super-realistic and anti-conventional style that defined GoT is now full of conventions and Hollywood cliches; conflicts and battles that used to have strategic weight behind them in earlier seasons, with focus on troop numbers, movement, logistics and positions, is thrown out of the window in later ones. Characters that used to die randomly and unjust, due to bad decisions, now continuously survive the most ridiculous situations (Beyond the wall plot i S7, Jamie charging Dany in S7, everyone surviving everything in S8E3). And even those who die, die a heroic death (Jorah, Edd, Mormont girl), in complete contradiction to GoT storylines (Robb, Ned, The Viper, etc.) Even deus ex machinas, which GRRM absolutely hated, are appearing all over the place.
And notice that this has been going on for quite some time. Despite that, people like you did not even once complain about it, and seemed to enjoy the show quite a lot when it was going on. The chessy dialogues and cliched screewriting, that has been dominating since season 5, and the complete reversal of everything the world of Song of Ice and Fire was, and also in many ways demonstrated in earlier seasons, was not criticized by any of you in all that time. No criticism of inconsistent pacing, with unnecessary filler in some places and rushed plots in others. No criticism of plot directions that are full of logical fallacies. No calling out of the butchering of certain characters, or the awful dialogues (like the Sand Snakes).
You then go on writing "Finally, HBO offers nothing for the thinking audience (save Real Sports, which is brilliantly ironic).
They do offer some shows which masquerade as thoughtful", again demonstrating how you're completely out of touch with reality. Last year HBO produced Sharp Objects, which along with AMC's The Terror was the best show of 2018 and a masterpiece worthy of a spot alongside the greatest shows of that channel. Over the last few years, Olive Kitteridge, The Deuce and Big Little Lies have also continued to substantiate HBO's quality TV reputation. It may not be the golden days of The Wire, Sopranos and Rome, but the channel is still providing great quality among all its other mainstream stuff.
Kevin Begley well the imagine this:
I got this from an acquaintance at HBO. Game of Thrones was intentionally ruined. The ending was butchered on purpose. In about a year and a half or so, just before election season, they will announce that they have an alternate ending or something like that, but they will only release it if Donald Trump does not get re-elected. I hear that HBO was directly ordered to do this 2 years ago by whoever controls Hollywood. (Most likely politicians). Btw I don’t give 2 shits about politics. I don’t even vote.
It sounds crazy just wait and see.
They knew what they were doing before they lost all the source material and decided they were too stressed and bored with it by season 5.
I use to get so upset that I could never get passed 1 chapter of the scripts or novels I write, wondering what was wrong with me and if I am cut out to be a writer....and then I heard of GRR Martin, and saw how he takes his time to curve and cut every piece of his sculpture until he can't do anything else but marvel...this man is a genius for not going the hollywood route and not letting people dictate his story or rush it out.
I came to this comment to let you know... you were wrong 😭
@@nicoleolinger7633 not really, even though my man is taking 82 years to drop WoW lol, hes still not letting peer pressure or Hollywood dictate when his book should be finished
Read the books many, many, years ago. This makes me want to re-read them.
George, we desperately need you and your wisdom to fix the game of thrones tragedy we are experiencing! Please help us!
Copyd the Comment by @Willoughby Krenzteinburg
People send George RR Martin letters all the time telling him that they threw his book away midway through it because they didn't like some storyline choice he made. Your opinion is not special. You're never going to please everyone. That's just a fact. You are simply on the side of disliking a choice made. Your observations are not objective truths, and there are plenty of people on the other side. Far more actually.
He'd better focus on the books. The show is done for. Most people would rather see how the saga truly ends.
ya na it’s not about the actual shows ending but rather how they got their in this fast forwarded manor without properly telling the story, leaving it very empty and making these huge jumps where character development would have needed a lot more time to be told properly. So this has nothing to do with George rr Martin but rather the show writers who chose to only doing 8 reasons with the last being shorter, rather then the 10 seasons hbo wanted, which would have given them the time to properly tell the story in depth.
@@janl5879 "Far more". Oof
@@Jdb63and again happen something...u just cant make things up man american quality products i guess well i assume airbus will just rule the market now since boeing doesnt care anymore about quality
Oh boy watching this after s08e03 is quite sad....
People send George RR Martin letters all the time telling him that they threw his book away midway through it because they didn't like some storyline choice he made. Your opinion is not special. You're never going to please everyone. That's just a fact. You are simply on the side of disliking a choice made. Your observations are not objective truths, and there are plenty of people on the other side. Far more actually.
Why is it sad? Martin barely has a role in the show. He gives them some notes (but he’s stated his story naturally evolved), and the show writers are absolute shit. Seasons 5-8 are nothing related to his story’s even the first 5 share barely a resemblance
@@factbeaglesarebest You're far off base when you say the first 5 seasons barely share a resemblance. They are very very similar and even Martin himself has stated it is the best adaptations from books he has seen on film or television.
Willoughby Krenzteinburg yeah well no film adaption in this genre has done true to the books. LOTR was great film, but a disservice to the original content.
The first season here was great, it naturally missed a lot of great stuff, but as I said consistently deteriorated. 6,7, and 8 so far are pure GARBAGE compared to Martins writing
@@factbeaglesarebest You're being far too hard. The writing has definitely lost a step, but what is the alternative really? You are clearly partial to Martin's writing, and that is a perfectly reasonable opinion. When they signed on to do the show 10 years ago, Martin was confident he would have the story finished. That didnt happen. Martin has literally added nothing to the story that existed at the time they signed on and were told the source material would be there by the time they needed it. It wasnt. Are they supposed to just go on hiatus for an amount of time Martin doesnt even know at this point it will take to finish the story while all the actors age by 5, 10, 15, who knows how many years? What would you have them do? The only thing that will satisfy you would be Martin's writing and asking or expecting them to be Martin is insanely unfair. It's just unfortunate, and if you want Martin's full story, you have to wait for the books. It is what it is.
16:16 "...in a theater, on a big screen, with a belly full of wine, and a" yadda yadda (you know how it goes) 😉
I would just love to chill with George, seems like a badass dude.
I love when something so excellent and plot dense just comes to someone. Its something you cant prepare for. You either experience its beauty from someone else or the beauty comes to you in your imagination. Its a wonderful and mysterious thing.
Amazing Mind. GOT is the best story I've ever heard....
It's been a great story so far, but we will have to wait until the end. The ending of a story is the most crucial part and it separates great stories from true masterpieces. I really hope and believe that the ending of GoT will make it a masterpiece.
Kasey Lee Better than the Bible lol
@@YourGraceMyLady HELL yes better then the BIBLE lol, I've never read the bible tho but I've seen movies I can only Imagine. But well said xoxo
read the silmarillion. that's the true bible of "novels'
Kasey Lee lol the Bible has some great stories in it , I suspect none of you have actually read it front to back, you’d be surprised how much literature is derivative of it in one way or another. You don’t need to believe in God to appreciate it.
George the Mastermind🙌❤️.
i agree , he 's a genius !
He is so reverential to Tolkien, it's incredible how you can be at the top of your field and still recognise the greats that come before you
Any fantasy writer not giving homage like this to Tolkien is an arrogant pr*ck... none of them would have written anything without him.
@@aaaaaa8656 exactly, and watching these videos of GRRM it's great that he remains down to earth about his place in the fantasy literature ecosystem.
@@blastoiseddr one could argue it's his humility and respect for those who paved the way that allowed George to cement himself as the Tolkien of our generation. you know, aside from his incredible talent and creativity as a storyteller.
I still remember the day years ago, I thought in my mind " what is with this game of thrones" that everyone is talking about... Now I am suffering like every body else waiting for the next book... It's going to be a huge moment of pause when he passes from these world... I am getting all choked up just thinking about how sad that day will be...
Shh we can just pretend that wont happen
Me too! I love the show but I turned into a book snob after getting to a feast for crows! I wish the show would’ve stayed faithful. I LOVE all of it but seasons 1-4 were masterpieces. Best thing ever put on a screen imo.
Dark Wizard nope.
Edit: oh I thought you were saying season 6 was bad! Dude season 6 is SO good and I love it. Contains some of the best episodes and moments, but I still wouldn’t call it a masterpiece like 1-4. But it’s like 9/10. Just has some really awful moments sprinkled in regarding the Iron Born, Braavos and Dorne.
Pure genius! GOT will go down forever in history. Thank you George, for an amazing fantasy with medieval world of literature, turned best series on T.V. Hats off to D.B, and Dave, for your instincts to bring to HBO!! :) BRAVO!
history will not be kind to the piece of shit that is GOT now
"I should be doing that right now. You're interfering with me. I'm sure this book will be a year late just because of you."
Martin is genuinely funny. I love his humor so much! 😂
That exchange between Catelyn and Jamie is probably the best detailing of how what seems black and white can very much be grey. Probably one of the best exchanges Martin ever wrote.
17:40 "Nobody's going to commit to that (seven movies)"
Oh George, if only you could've known how big of a hit the MCU would be.
i had this very soft warm yet sadden smile in my face around 3:00 when the image of sir TOLKIEN appeared ..
may his soul live always
Meanwhile from D&D: "That dragon that couldn't fight ships sunk them all, the Dothraki didn't get slaughtered a couple of episodes ago anymore and Cersei gets killed by a brick".
I adore George!! Just love him.
cool id like to hear his thaughts on 8e03
His thoughts are "They fucked it up!".
i dont, tbh.
i have lost half the craze because of the 3rd episode
His life's work is forever stained with the travesty that is ep3. He should've never allowed such hacks to create a show based on his unfinished work. Sad. Tolkien stands alone.
Drama queens 🙄
George is an artist and good art takes time
11 years is a bit much though.
The world will likely never see the likes of Tolkien and Martin again. Those two minds devizing the most complete worlds down to geneology, geography, languages, history, religions, mass characterizations, other-worldly beasts and beings ect. And they did it each in their own way....their own style. Neither is better than the other. They are equal but different. Two geniuses whose minds had no limitations.
Brandon Sanderson does the same thing
Lol the 20 century totally has the two only people who'll ever do that... Makes sense
@@jamesfield1674 yeah sanderson is great. I'm currently reading stormlight archive. What a banger
Not true. There will always be someone to fill that void left out by past authors
I’m anxiously awaiting WoW George and I hope it’s going well! Don’t rush greatness GRRM.
I feel like currently, George Martin enjoys giving interviews about his masterpiece way more than actually completing it
as long as he completes it i dont give a shit how long it takes.
And how many masterpieces have you written? Then again, an interview for anything you have accomplished?
@@joseallende8046 A very silly reply, thanks for the laugh.
@@LOLERXP silly reply to a douchy comment.
@@notyou4616 What's douchy about it, was just a half-joking observation. Some people are really touchy about this it seems.
George Martin is an outstanding Astounding man!
Seeing George in that black RX-7 got me thinking, is he still a car guy? I'd gladly be his mechanic, build him some rotaries and such. He can easily afford to enjoy the hobby now.
right??? i love him sm he just gets better day by day hahah
21:00 "we never produced anything for television before" while the other is chuckling. gods it was right there before us the whole time
You stand in the presence of King George of House Martin, the Raymond, the Richard, the breaker of common traditional fantasy tropes, the King of the Procrastinators and the Unmet deadlines, Ruler of the Seven Writers Blocks.
He is a mental genius..full of imagination..
Total respect to George !!!
Now this was an intelligent, truly informative video. Thanks for sharing!
D&D faithfully created the greatest destruction of a popular TV show I have ever seen. Game of Thrones will always be remembered as a cautionary tale.
I just keep watching the series and for example when Jon joined the wildlings, he told Mance Rayder the story of how Craster gave his babies to the white walkers and that lord commander Mormont knew about it and chose to ignore it. After this Jon said something along the line of "I want to be on the side that fights for the living. Did I come to the right place?".
Jon thought to say this to Mance on the spot and if he hadn't said something similar I doubt that Mance would ever take Jon into his wildling camp.
In the history books, though, I know that the books will most likely only say "And then Aegon Targaryen joined the Free Folk, led my Mance Rayder" and I think that that's pretty interesting
Roberta Trevino history is written by the victors.
i hope he takes the time to finish the story on his own terms. In my mind there is the part of the series inspired by the books which is a pure joy: paced skillfully, high stakes and deep character development with very complex morals and ethics, aaaaand then there is the rest which is a significantly skinnier plot, feeling sort of rushed event-wise, with a biased writing and low stakes. and that is an understandable choice because they dont have entire books to harvest inspiration from anymore. I really hope he finishes it. im not a booky guy, but man would i be glued to such a book.
It sounds like Qyburn from GOT is narrating the interview.
Listen to the BBC podcast "In our time". its by the guy narrating this and its great.
I agree with you! I was thinking the same.😂🤣
No its Melvyn Bragg.
Thanks for the long one!
They did a pretty good job as long as they had the books to follow. Once they past the books you could tell the quality started going down.
From the video: 93K twitter followers. Now: 1.22M... Damn George!
I hope this pandemic can boost GRRM creativity and make him able to finish the story
Now, this is what we call Thinking Big.
The change in Jaime between the first episode and now is so dramatic.
The wound is a character with a similar arc
Such a brilliant mind!
thanks qyburn. great narrating
It’s always baffled me how these types of writers come up with so much depth. Tolkien obviously was ocd about his world and I think Martin is too. You have to really start caring about characters to make up an ancestory and languages for them.
Live long and write plenty, George!
He has a very cute laughter. Mr Santa Claus. Can I give you a hug?
thx for the HD Upload
Hearing David and Dan speak about the books so passionately makes me feel sad to think about how they basically froze George out of the writing process after season 4 and wrote a fanfiction with a budget.
Just more democrats using Hollywood as their stepping stone after they inevitably sell their soul to the kiddie touching devil , who happens to be the father of all polticians and hollyweirdos.
Did they force him out or did he let himself out? Where dan I read more about this
what a beautiful piece of art ! the books and the series ! thank you to all
17:30 "nobody is gonna commit to that"
ARE YOU SURE GEORGE
Never heard of the mcu I guess.
@@studiocigsplain8588 superheroes appeal to all ages. Can't have kids watch GOT lol
Don't know how this guy managed to make me more interested in a fantasy world, more then the one we live in.
His talent is out of this world
I think GRRM has been so genius hes written himself in a corner. Hell never be happy with how it ends, like any fan
Well, maybe it would be for the best that he never finishes it then? The show will end and the fans will always wonder about what could have been the most amazing ending to a series ever. I have a feeling that by creating an alternative ending (tvshow) it messes with how he see the ending in the books. Especially considering how the audience will react to the ending of the tvshow.
I never get tire listening to G.R.R.M talking
The first chapter just came to me , he said it like he was possessed or something.
He was.
I hope DnD get around to making season 7! I'm so hyped how they continue the insane cliffhanger of season 6, as it's been 6 years since then
I thought I was listening to Dave Ramsey at 19:00 payoff your debt and learn to say no
Brilliant. Thank you. New sub. Can't wait to binge watch your videos.
Not an english map mate its britian. The north remembers.
The Norse Rememberers
Thank you for all the videos!
"when we went to Goerge it was probably like that bluff where you mistakenly think you have it straight but u actually don't" now that explains a lot about the shit that has been going down in Season 8
This dude....man he's too good for this world
stoked that I've found Aegon Targaryen's youtube channel
18:45 Really love this quote.
The Narrator sounds like the Discovery channel dude
Pretty sure it's the guy who did the audiobooks aka the High Sparrow
It's Melvin Bragg
3 years later...still waiting.
0:07 Martin looks just like Sam Tarlly in his RX7
Gosh, I've not watched many interviews with this guy until recently and he seems like a thoughtful and chill dude. I hope he lives long enough to finish his story. I'm not reading the books till they are all written and I would love to see this story finished by the author himself.
I want to know more about avalon
He’s my favorite author! Absolutely love his books. In the meantime I’ll re read the five books again! Cheaper than buying the DVDs, at least until I save enough to buy them lol
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I mourn GoT for the masterpiece that it started off as, not the fanfiction that it came to be.
Awesome video!!!! The story of his life is incredible!!!!!,George RR Martin is a legend!!!!! He has a great creative mind!!!! He has created a masterpiece!!!!,BEST WRITER!!!!!
Where is da caps police fam?
And remember for all time we will❤️
Before I die George, please!
Before he dies is the real concern.
@@MaurDL lol, how dare u
Almost 30 years old, since These characters were created
22:35 he is part of the reasons the show is so succesfull...part of the reasons!! more like all of the reasons .
Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the performances, directing, episodic writing, cinematography, directing, visual effects, or production value; surely not!
Honestly I see a lot of criticism and not enough gratitude towards David and Dan, first five season of the show I enjoyed a lot, and without them we might not have ever seen the game of thrones or heard about SOIAF series.
This guy is very impressive