The Best Budget Camera No One Buys
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- After years of financial scandal and an inevitable shift in ownership, this once popular range of mirrorless cameras are now at risk of becoming entirely forgotten about. But, the silver lining is that these cameras can now be found in abundance on the second hand market at very affordable prices - and they’re pretty damn good! I’m talking about the Olympus PEN range of cameras, and more specifically, the Olympus Pen E-PL8.
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Intro - @0:00
Olympus Pen History - @0:21
Unpopular Opinion Of The Day - @0:46
Build Quality - @1:49
The Pen Family Tree - @2:18
Why The E-PL8? - @3:10
Features - @3:47
The Sensor - @4:35
Lenses - @6:08
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I’m an Olympus girl since the beginning of time. These are like Toyotas of cameras. I have so many vintage lenses I can use. I also use it for my photography work.
5:00 England is cloudy (6500K) and you set Sunny (5500K) so you get cooler photos. If you set Tungsten (3200K) you will get even cooler photos. If you want to get warmer photos, you need to be above the temperature, not below. So for a cloudy day (6500K) you need to set it to shade (7000K). Or just choose the Kelvin temperature manually
That's super useful info. Thanks!
I think this is a silly simplification. The photos show blue skies so it’s clearly not “cloudy in England” on this day. Light is light and can be diffused by cloud regardless of what country you are in. I do not think you can say, UK sunny is different temperature 🤦♂️
5:07 there is no clouds, it's just Olympus shoots terrible oversaturated blue skies
or just shoot raw and choose the WB in post
@@StanleyKubick1But that's not snoob enough to make a video about it
Good information here. My first micro 4/3 cameras were the PL-2 followed by the PL-5. I found that getting the VF 4 viewfinder made the camera a lot more fun to use. After using the PL-5, I moved up to the M10 and found it to be such a better camera, especially for the ability to hold the camera up to your eye and make multiple adjustments without moving it.
I still use it's successor, an M10 Mark II along with a M1 Mark II and think the micro 4/3 system is a great choice for many photographers.
I compared some shots with the Canon r50 lens kit, and surprisingly, the epl-8 took sharper, better looking jpgs. Raw files were easier to work too, had a certain look that I cannot explain. They just looked good.
I always wanted a Olympus Pen digital camera. Great video, you bring up a lot of good points. Thanks for sharing,
I'm waiting for the PEN 15. Small form factor in your pocket but expands to a more usable size when taken out ready for action. I understand a flash might cause exposure problems and the drive only allows a single shot, maybe two if you're lucky, but the final result is breathtaking.
Wow, a lot of comments already, I'll throw in my redundant kudos for calling out this great camera. I did street photography with an E-PL8 for years, actually owned two of them. Buyers should be aware that the E-PL8 was the LAST Pen Lite model to support the external flash or the VF-4 external EVF. The E-PL9 and 10 also dumbed down some menu items like the number of customizable buttons. I currently shoot with the E-PL10, which added full silent shutter and is also, in my opinion, in all-black, the best-looking model of the bunch. Cheers!
The 10 was a let down
3:00 The number four in many Asian languages sounds similar to the word death, so it is considered an unlucky number in most Asian cultures, so companies avoid naming their products with anything "four" in it.
How about the Playstation 4? Or the many video game titles that are the fourth installment in their series? Like Street Fighter 4, Tekken 4, Final Fantasy 4, Dynasty/Samurai Warriors 4, to name a few. Or maybe it just doesn't apply to video games?
Those are Japanese game titles. Four sounds like “death” in Mandarin and Chinese dialects
@@chrisrarcOlympus is a Japanese company too, so it's still relevant in a conversation on why Olympus skipped 4. Besides, 4 also sounds like "death" in Japanese.
Usually it’s the older senior Asian folks that are the most superstitious. Culturally.
So the younger video game playing kids wouldn’t even notice the “Playstaion 4”. ツ
Finally, an older camera I actually have!
I got a used E-PL8 as a secondary camera to complement my Nikon D7000 and then when the original 14-42mm broke down I got a Panasonic 12-32mm to really make it compact, though there is a 17mm f/2.8.
Then when I got my Fujifilm X-T2 I passed the E-PL8 to my father though he prefers to use his iPhone to take pictures.
I use my epl-5 all the time. Awesome little camera. Fit it with a Panasonic 14mm 2.5 and you have a fantastic pocketable camera.
I have a PL-7 that I use when I want ultra lightweight. For instance, for the long steep hike up Mt Rainier/Tahoma I don't want to haul 15Kg of full frame gear to Comet falls. My Pen camera is perfect for that.
@@brendon4695 A chacun ses goûts
@@brendon4695 I don't think you understand. A camera will always feel better to a lot of photographers than a phone even if it's almost the same quality. Main difference is that phones still use digital zoom compared to a cameras optical zoom phones also do worse in low light even with their powerful denoising software.
@@1ilrxThis is true. And it's not "almost the same quality", not even close but maybe if you only upload to Instagram and look at the photos from your phone's screen. The sensor in phone cameras can never compete against a DSLR mainly just because of the size difference. It's a physical limiting fact that the camera sensors in phones will always be tiny if they don't suddenly decide to make them a lot bigger. DSLR always will have sharper pictures with better dynamic range that makes a HUGE difference in post (editing). Not even talking about the usability of a DSLR which when used by a seasoned photographer becomes almost like extension of the body when all the necessary BUTTONS are spread around the camera for easy and quick image adjustment to capture just the picture you want in all conditions. And the best thing out of all is that if you want you can even leave your phone home (or just not look at it while your shooting and having a great time relaxing). But there is really no need to compare phone cameras and DSLR's because it's really like comparing apples and oranges.
EPL-1 / lumix 20mm/f1.7 is my pocket assistant. In AWB I noticed that it seems to go for 5300 K most of the time. I process with OM Workspace, and find that most of the time the white balance seems fine. I adjust WB about 25% of the time.
I have an E-P1 but unfortunately bricked it while updating the software. Also bricked the 17mm f2.8. Recently purchased a Pen-F, which while not perfect, is so much fun to use.
I recently bought one as I didnt want to carry the large A7III around everywhere. Great little camera at good price. I got mine from CEX almost mint. I then bought the electronic viewfinder attachment for them very sunny days. Love it. Great video. (mines the tan one).
Thanks to this video I decided to try out the Pen E-PL8. Found one locally in excellent condition with the Olympus 14-42mm pancake kit-lens for £170/€200, can't wait to take it with me everywhere! Hoping to find a great deal on the 20mm F1.7 at some point.
Bought the same one last year before my Autumn trip to South Korea, pretty great little camera. This camera is my entry to M43 and now I own EM1 mk2 and 5 lens.
Nice!
Good shots and a nice video! I love Olympus cameras! My first ever DSLR was an Olympus E-410. Now I have the E-M10 Mark III (after 10+ years of Canon). It is nice to be back, and yes, those dials bring the same great feeling that makes you wanna..smile 😀
Bought an OM-5 last year and immediately fell in love. Traded in the kit lens for a pro lens and then bought a pro prime as well.
@@Sgt_Glory Nice gear! Enjoy it!
I bought an epm-1 new, when it was just going out of sale. I got it for AU$220 with the 2 kit lenses. I also have an omd-5 mark 1 bought new (body only) for the same price when the mark 2 was released. Best purchases ever!
I just purchased last week this camera for 200€ second hand with it's 14-42mm default lens and in near perfect condition with all the accessories (flash, bag, charger and a 64Gb sd) and I couldn't be happier!
NICE! where did you get it from???
what's fun is they also make screen hoods that attach to the screen- when closed it covers the screen, and then you can flip it open into a shade. when the screen is turned up towards you it's like shooting a medium format. very handy for non-confrontational street photography
Can you provide link, please?
I’ve been looking for something like that but couldn’t find anything.
I bought PEN EP7 a month or so ago. It's a fantastic camera: compact, light and with a great image quality. It's always with me even when going to buy bread across the street. Neither FF nor APSC cameras can match portability. The only drawback that Micro 4/3 had - low light performance is practically not an issue today with the powerful denoising apps. I think it's the perfect time for micro 4/3 and the fact that OM Systems is hardly coping with orders only proves this.
Great video segment. I have the EPL7 and actually use it professionally alongside my Nikon 750s in real estate photography. I use it as a supplemental imaging tool to capture either landscape scenes and outdoors, sometimes cameos indoors and out. It is a very fast shooter and the results barely need any major editing. Just a bump here and there. Im at the point where im contemplating dipping my toe into the EM range for that 4:3 aspect ratio which i love in architectural photography.
You photograph Epstein Island. Cool
Just got pl9 yesterday with kit lens and additional 70-125mm lens (third party but don't know which brand) for £250, including all other accessories except neckstrap. Just trying to learn manual photography and on budget, so it seemed a great deal for me
Was looking for pl8 as it had external evf support, but still pl9 for that price with lenses was the best I could find
Hi just a FIY on the cracked screen. I had the same problem with my older Olympus XZ-2 pocket camera. I ordered a new screen from Japan on eBay, it took 8 weeks for delivery, and I have a local cell phone repair shop replace the old screen with the new screen. All total I paid under $ 200 for the screen, delivery, and repairs. That was a couple of years ago but it is something to look into. Cheers from southern Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada.
Hey, thanks Neil. Good to know! Though, honestly, it works absolutely fine so I'm gonna leave it until it really does need replacing. But I appreciate the advice ☺️
my first mirrorless was the EPL8 and I still use it, its such a good shooter!
There are also viewfinders that can be attached to the hotshoe, very handy in sunny conditions
Not too sure if they fixed the issue but quite a few models from Olympus experienced banding with the Panasonic 20mm 1.7. It happened with my E-M5 and E-PL5 with a Panasonic 20mm. The PanaLeica 15mm 1.7 and the Olympus 17mm 1.8 had no issues. AWB on Olympus with the tungsten light correction has always given me pleasing results on JPEGs. Indeed I think they're often underrated as some of the best in the biz. Add to the fact you can add your own copyright and change the dpi to files even with the most basic models it's very useful. Some of the older models hide the SCP (super control panel) but when that's enabled you barely have to go into the menus with most functions at a touch of a button. Supremely fun and affordable cameras. The 12-40mm 2.8 Olympus lens is nearly all the range most people needed especially with the decent 2x digital teleconvertor. Yes it upscales the file but if you're wanting simplicity and flexibility then it's an excellent feature.
You can add copyright in most cameras. Ffs
@@unbroken1010 you can now but back in 2012 there were not too many models that you could and most other makes limited it to the more expensive pro style models. Olympus allowed it in nearly every OMD and Pen model. They furthered the anti dust sensor tech and led the way in IBIS. I'm just saying that they've always been underrated. And you've proved my point 😄
I actually got a used PL7 in the mail today. Spec wise pretty much identical to the PL8, and I really like it.
2:00 - made me subscribe because of this. this is specifically the kind of unhinged references I am looking for in my life.
My first camera is an EPL7 that I still have. Recently bought a Sema-1 microphone adapter that I use at Raves. It’s quirky and fun.
Where does it plug in. Thought they had mic jack
@@unbroken1010 Olympus EPL line does not come with a mic jack. The Sema -1 plugs in through the accessory port located under the hot shoe.
@@kevinblanco3244 thanks for the advice..have you used that mic for concerts at all? How is it in general
@@unbroken1010 it works great, I pair it with a wireless blue tooth adapter and gets the job done ✅
Crazy, I use the exact same body and lens. That 20mm f1.7 is awesome.
I loved my Olympus cameras back in the day.
The E-PL8 is the last version compatible with the VF-4 clip on viewfinder. Very worthwhile add on as it's a better evf than the E-M1 ii at the time and I find composing easier, especially in strong sunlight. It's perfect for street photography or getting into museums that don't allow cameras. Nobody takes you seriously. Mine is white which is even less serious. I got mine with 650 shutter count for £129 on eBay in as new condition with 3 batteries
I can confirm everything you Said about this camera. In Germany I got one for around 250US$ equivalent in mint condition and equipped with the 14-40 mm kit lens, which has a decent Image quality.
Love my EPL8. It has the most features from the previous lineup with the capability to add flash/evf so it’s the one I chose.
You should’ve mentioned the Live Composite mode
Thanks Matti for an entertaining an thought provoking video! I can say that I almost cured my GAS! I realized that I actually am into the rendering of the pictures - ie the lens. The GRiii helped me to realize this… My Nikon Coolpix A is in absolute terms inferior to the GRiii but I like the rendering of the Nikon Lens better. Luckily I stopped selling my gear way back when I got new Cameras so I could, when I realised this, go back tibpick up both older Cameras and more importantly the „old“ lenses I used to shoot the “cameras” with - only to realize that, for me the camera is unimportant (as long as I don’t hate using it (The Sonys come close hate and The Pentaxes and Olympuses to love)) the lenses do it for me. Not selling gear earlier made me able to use i.e. the Loxia 35 f/2 (ALL the Loxias) again together with the Nikkor 35 f/1.4, LUMIX Leica 25 f/1.4 and Olympus 25 f/1.2 and Super Takumar 50 f/1.4 (8 elements) again! The list goes on… All of these lenses need a Camera… so I am lucky to have kept them all! Regards Rikard
@Tom Carlton .. I have the EP1 in the all stainless steel finish. The original in the digital EP M43 body. I also have the EP1-L that has been converted to full spectrum IR , and it's a great compact kit.
I do believe that the 4 wasn't released due to superstition and the number 4.
In Chinese, the word meaning ‘four’ sounds like the Chinese word meaning death. So yes the number 4 is not popular in China.
Thanks for the video. OM System had the E-PL10 (refurbished) on sale during the holidays. Picked one up for around $300 US including tax and shipping. It is now my photo walk/street photography camera, paired with the Panasonic 14mm. Sometimes miss an EVF, but otherwise it is a great camera.
I got mine during this sale too! Although the packaging made it obvious that it was a refurb, mine looked and felt brand new!
EPL 8 was the last of the series with the accessory dock for flash and evf…later models can’t have an evf fitted ..shame.
The E-PL8 was my first real camera. I paired it with budget lenses, the Panasonic 14 and 25mm (which has a focus issue). I didn't know if would use a standalone camera, so it was a cheap way to get started.
I got better at photography with that setup, and I upgraded to a E-P7 last year. While image quality has improved, the build is plastic. It can't compare to the metal body of the E-PL8.
Cheers Tom, that's exactly the kind of camera I was looking for. I do own the analog PEN version from way back. Are there any attachable viewfinders for this camera?
Good review. Regarding the cold tones of the white balance, I think it may be because the "keep warm color" function will be disabled, it is chosen in the Color/BB group G of the custom menu. (The Olympus learning curve is long...)
Ahhh, good to know! Thank you 😊
The # 4 is considered badluck (death) in Japanese culture and language. So Japanese camera manufacturers usually don't make (skip) model 4. I have no idea why they sometimes also skip model 6.
It's similar to #13 being considered bad luck in Western European and American nations. That comes from catholic history.
I had one of the first digital Pens - a lovely camera to hold with aluminium body. However, the lack of a viewfinder meant that I generally used my Panasonic instead.......
Love this video! I bought the E-PL8 a few years ago as a present for my wife. I then enjoyed using it myself so much that it moved me away from Nikon (I then used a D7100 with kilos of lenses 🙈) to Olympus and I bought a E-M5 MIII for myself.
And still today both the E-M5 III and my wife's E-PL8 are used as my main photography gear. I love the image quality (although they don't really hold up at high iso), but foremost due to their looks and size / weight, they made me fall in love with photography again.
Nikon does make small, mirrorless cameras as well just saying. As a bonus you get access to a plethora of Nikon lenses!
@@Sc0pee yes you are correct! But since I already had the E-PL8 for my wife, we also already had a couple of mft lenses because of this. Also the lenses are incredibly small and light. All those factors made me decide to buy a E-M5 III and enjoy photography again, it in fact had nothing to do with Nikon.
DXO photolab does some really remarkable stuff with high iso pictures. Give it a shot!
Love this range! I'd get one in a heartbeat, being a MFT guy for almost 15 years now, but I just need a viewfinder 🙄Especially for street, in a bright environment trying to use the LCD could be a challenge - I know EVF can be bought as an accessory, but it's quite expensive and not suitable for all the Pen models. Great lens tho - that's next on my list, for sure! It reminded me of an old 25mm pancake 4/3 lens that I used to have years ago.
Cheers and greetings from Bulgaria 🙏
I wouldn't be without my EVF but, I only use it in bright sunlight.
I've been on the lookout for a pen pl7, pl8 or p5 that isn't busted or outrageously overpriced for a few weeks now. I bought an M5 ii a few months ago and have been absolutely loving it, and I've been wanting something more pocketable.
It’s also so fun with a vintage lens adapted and has multiple exposure. Has a heap of features almost same as my EM5markII
I had an E-PL8 but it had electronic shutter added but locked away in a special mode which only used warm WB. I switched to an E-PL9 which put it in all modes so the E-PL8 is specifically one to avoid as is the EM10 III which actually was a backward step from the EM10 II which had all mode electronic shutter. They brought out an EM10 IIIs which fixed this but the menus were still cut back. The reviewers on the whole completely missed that electronic shutter had been fixed which could I am sure could have been done in firmware. Buying cheap cameras can be a false economy as any minor bugs will need an entirely new camera whilst the higher end kit gets free firmware updates even adding facilities.
Wow, Cambridge looked great with this little cam!
I love the e-pl cameras. I had one until finally giving in to the full frame bug but I'm sure I'll come back to micro 4/3 one day, when I finally get fed up with the weight 😅
Nice coincidence. I got an E-PL8 very cheaply on eBay a week ago and since yesterday I have the ultra-compact Pankake zoom 14-42 mm 3.5-5.6 II R, which goes perfectly with it. I like the easy-to-fold-out display so much better than the complicated one on my Sony A7c that just always gets in the way. To my surprise, the autofocus is no slower than that of the much newer Sony.
I just got a couple of e-pl10 bodies as they’re all discontinued, great with the Panasonic 14mm 2.5 also discontinued
Got a minty epl8 off eBay recently £150.. paired it with Olympus 17mm 1.8 (mpb used) nice little set up..manual clutch focus is a nice touch..
I've watched this video for five minutes and I want one.... I'm a vintage photographer I'm around 53 years of age and I love some of the older gear that's around even the older digital stuff is awesome
the actual physical camera used in this review is currently for sale on ebay
Look up reviews for the e-m10 mk2: it comes with an evf which makes it perform better in sunlight.
I would advise anyone checking out any of the "EPL" series cameras to consider the PEN E-P5 (no "L" in the name). It's older (2013) but is built better, looks better (IMHO), still has a lot of the same tech or better, and actually has better image stabilization and controls thanks to a second dial. Awesome little camera. I love it.
I had the EP7 it's a very nice camera. Small, fast, handsome. I went away from usual stuff right into wildlife only, therefore I didnt need it anymore. Can recommend it. I used it with my Olympus 100-400 in the beginning before I could afford a EM1X 😂
Firstly, these digital Olympus Pens aren't really that cheap anymore!😊
But....
I've already found the worlds cheapest Olympus Pen.......
The 1960s Olympus Pen ee half frame film camera 📷 paid just £15 for it, it's absolutely mint. 😊
I am trying to decide between the Olympus Pen 8 or a Leica C Type 112. I know they are completely different cameras with one being interchangeable micro four thirds with no VF and the Leica essentially a point and shoot. If it were you which camera would you lean toward?
Funny enough… my husband was asking me for my list of cameras that if he stumbled upon one in the wild what I would want. This one and the original 35mm pen were on my list ❤
I’ve got an original Pen FT I love shooting but would pick one of these digital Pens in a heartbeat. Just can’t see the price for me yet. I got a Nikon D7200 with two lenses and a bag for $500 and even though it’s way bigger, it’s also a lot more camera and more what I want with full manual controls just like my other film SLR’s.
I think your right on this one and brings the fun back into photography . Great for travel and just fun instant walk about pics / street photos
E-PL7 and E-PL8 are near identical in specs. The difference is fps rate in burst mode. E-PL8 is also the last in the line to accept external EVF and other accessories using the powered hotshoe.
Tom, an eloquent discussion of this camera. Question: Is it notably better than, say, a smartphone camera? If yes, explain. Thanks.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
I'm planning on making a video on that very topic soon, so keep an eye out for it and hopefully you'll have your answer.
Nice video, just don't try to outsmart auto-WB, it's quite consistent, as with most Olympus cameras.
I bought this camera for the looks, fell in love with what it can produce. As great as it is, the 20mm Panaleica is actually one of the problematic lenses when it comes to AF, so this little beast focuses even better with an Olympus 17.5mm or the Leica 15mm. There's also a supertiny Panasonic 14mm f/2.5, which makes this a viable alternative to a GRIII. The sensor is good up to about ISO2500, but the hi-ISO grain is quite graceful, and AI-denoise can extend that to ISO5000 probably. It used to be even cheaper (I got mine for 150 EUR with the kit lens, boxed, mint, etc. three years ago), apparently getting more expensive in the current compact camera craze, driven by Fujifilm & Ricoh.
Hi Tom, fantastic video as always! Asian companies tend to skip the number 4 as the number 4 in Chinese sounds a lot like the word for death. I guess Olympus did not want their camera being named “Epl-Death”.
Just to be clear, that's a pretty sick name for a camera. I'd buy that 🤣
They should go full gimmick and create a digital version of the 35mm half frame Pen F with a sensor rotated into portrait, viewfinder and having shutterspeed and iso on top
Can’t wait for the 100k subs video, mate.
I had this camera like four times... all have some issue with date and clock reset (cmos internal battery). or maybe it dont have at all...
This video just cost me some 300 Euro :)
But I got three lenses, the flash and the EVF 2 with the camera.:D
Nice little thing, thanks for the heads up!
I still rock the e-pl1… once it dies (or I want an upgrade) it will probs the be the 7 or 8. Great little cameras
I would imagine it does video also but I don’t think you mentioned it. After I watch these videos of seems like the suppliers watch these videos also and up the price making it almost unacceptable for my budget. I see a lot of EPL 1, 2, 7 for in my case reasonable pricing then I find the EPL 8 hitting a mark of $350-$450 USD way out of my comfort zone!
I guess that I’m stuck with my 2 go to digital non changeable lens cameras a Kodak digital with zoom and a Sony that screens removable lens that looks like a high end exchangeable lens but isn’t!
I’m thinking just dropping this idea and sticking with what I have and going back to film for stills with my Minolta’s with my collection of lenses
I bought this one on ebay for £300.99. It came with a 45mm lens too and the kit lens. Plus all the original accessories. I love mine.
Absolute bargain! Nice one!
Why not mentioned the possibility to use a EVF from Olympus?
Huge missed opportunity on these to not do true manual dials.
Also how good would it be to see a digital Pen with the sensor in a vertical layout like the film ones….
Your video came out just in time. Was just looking for a small compact. 😂
Glad I could help you spend your money 😅
Oh thanks for the recommendation! I'm currently looking for a camera that can replace my gh5 when I want to be light (when travelling or in the street). As I have several m 3/4 lenses, this body could be very interesting as I see that it sells in my country (France) for 145€! I'm still hesitant about the megapixel, is 16mx a problem for you? Also, you say it has wifi, is there an Olympus application for transferring files? Also I wonder if it would be good for unpretentious vlogging with friends, have you tested its video performance? Thanks !
yes there's O.I.S (OM Image Share) on playstore for transfering files and control the camera with your smartphone.
I’m in the Lumix environment. Love the GX line. GX8 was a flagship body. IBIS. Audio jac. A little bigger and heavier than GX85/9. GX 85 is 16MP and GX9 20MP. GX85/9 are less featured than GX8. Just bought GX8 from camera store for $400. GX85 is ~$450. Bought GX9 with kit 12-60 for ~$700. Very nice lens with dual IS. GX85/9 don’t have audio jac. Love GX9 L monochrome D. My favorite jpeg B&W. All GX have EVF.
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@@martingreenberg870 Thanks for your feedback !
I love your videos but i never realized how much your voice sounds like a lot of those scam ad robo voices haha. still one of the best photo channels on youtube, love the style
It's processed
The thing with the pen line for me is this rock, paper, scissors problem.
Silent shutter, tilt screen, evf
You can only ever have 2/3.
I went with the Epl 10 since it’s the only pen with silent shutter in all modes (except the ep7, but that’s like 3x the price)
I let go of the evf. For me it’s a perfect street cam.
The Lumix 14mm f2.5 is a real bargain and tiny...bonus! Cheers from Victoria, B.C P.S. If Canadian links were available it would be nice to see on your site.
can you test the canon eos m3 please, I'm thinking of buying one for going on vacation and for around the house. Love your video's btw
The jpeg shooting mode would probably have automatically warmed the raw data. There’s a massive range of adjustments on this camera and they are there to be used. Most are specific to jpeg and not using them is a waste of its capability. Raw is there for mixed lighting conditions and to increase dynamic range but there are also choices to enable this with jpeg.
EP-4 is skipped because in Japanese "four" pronounced means "death". ;-)
Why EP-6 was skipped I do not know.
Never realised the E-Pl was so small. That pocketability alone makes it appealing. Online cranks have persuaded me to wait and see if a new Pen F will be released, but I might take a look at these in the meantime.
(Also: you're english! You're covered in wotsit dust, not cheeto dust!)
In Japan, 4 is considered an unlucky number as phonetically it's the same as the pronunciation for the Japanese for "d3ath." 6 is also considered unlucky, as it's pronunciation is the same for "nothing." These numbers are often skipped in everything from elevators to model numbers. And now you know more about something that absolutely doesn't matter.
The 20mm was so nice but also so slow 😢 really sad that there was never a follow up version with a faster focus motor
I believe that the No.4 is traditionally viewed as bringing bad luck in Japan. But Nikon did make the Nikon F4 and D4. And there is the Canon MkIV.
I am looking forward to trying a Pen at some point
If they're all like this, I think you'll enjoy it
I just bought E-PL 10 best camera I had in a while, + 14mm .25 lens its tiny! does anything big camera does. I'm so happy and kind of sad that's the last pen we will see.
The Olympus Pen F digital looks even better, though prices are hella high. I suppose I see EPL8's on average at $500 so it's not too far off
Question: the Panasonic lens is "fully" compatible with the Olympus camera?
In my experience the Panasonic lenses are fully compatible with Olympus Cameras. But, you do lose out on dual image stabilisation if said Panasonic lens has image stabilisation. You can't use the Panasonic lens image stabilisation in conjunction with the Olympus IBIS.
Pretty much, in my experience. I have a GX8 as my 'main camera' and got an EPL7 second hand primarily because I was interested in the 17mm and 45mm lenses it was being sold with, and the asking price was such that I effectively got the camera body for free. I've had perfectly satisfactory results with Panasonic 20mm, 12-60mm and 12-32mm lenses.. I've not stress-tested it by trying to do long hand-held exposures or anything like that, and I don't think I've tried it with my PanaLeica 100-400, but for every day routine use it's absolutely fine.
M4/3 is alive and well, but no longer the bargain it used to be, like all system cameras!
I paid only 300 bucks each for my 3 Olympus PEN cams, when they were new and on sale many years ago. Now they are plain gone, and are hard to get used for what I paid new! An OM-D E-M10 used to go for 500 bucks on sale, now they run 800!
I got into Micro 4/3 with the E-PL2 in 2012, never looked back at other digi systems, and abandoned my lifelong K-bayonet setup!
I added the E-PL6 and E-PL8, and those 3 with a few kit lenses (14-42mm, 40-150mm) and 3 Sigma fixed f/2.8 lenses (19mm, 30mm, 60mm), gave me a system for all occasions.
Cameras, like everything, have gotten more expensive, and being disabled I can no longer afford all the things I bought long ago. I am happy I bought these cams, as they are just wonderful, and deliver images with "full frame" quality of not too long ago!
I have the E-PL9 and I think its worst *feature* is the UI, which is terrible. AF is another flaw because of its tendency to backfocus. However, I do like the colours straight out the camera.
Check the Pen F. That thing is beautiful.
OM Must reintroduce the bumpy glass ring round the lens in the film version … I love that look and it’s vaguely functional
Those are the light metering selenium cells 😍 film cameras with those that weren’t covered and left in light would eventually “wear” out the selenium so the light reading wasn’t right.
I agree tho they’re really cool
They are ALREADY forgotten. Last one, the E-P7 has been discontinued in 2022. I don't think they are going to make them again, just look at the fact that OM System has now just four cameras on their catalogue, and they are terminating a good part of their lens choice. I think in the future MFT will be just a Panasonic thing.
I'm quite surprised, that similar cameras from Canon (the M line) keep their price even though they are often even older.
Olympus Pens are beautiful little cameras. After using many mirrorless cameras over more than a decade, the Pen F remains the most beautiful mirrorless camera I have ever used or seen. Lumix LX100 was incredible as well. But spending near $200 or more on an M4/3 camera + lens makes no sense at this point of time. Even with the best lenses they can barely take photos that are better than a mid-range mobile phone.
And buying a "premium" M4/3 camera is completely silly, as we have super-compact reasonably priced APS-C, even full-frame cameras and wide aperture lenses whose output no M4/3 camera can come close to matching.
I almost got the same setup with the Olympus Pen E-PL8 but i went for the Panasonic GX80 paired with the Lumix 20mm f1.7 and after a year of using it for street photography and just taking it with me anywhere i go i can say that its really good at doing the job, its cheap, light and it looks good (i got the silver/black body it looks amazing). So anybody who's looking for a cheap and easy to use setup should really look into m43, cheap, compact, beginner friendly, a great way to start your journey!
Yeah the E-PL8 is the facelift of the E-PL7, they are practically identical, choose on looks. After the E-PL8 (and PEN-F) the Pen/Pen-lite range got plasticised and dumbed down. They lost the AP2 port for the viewfinder, the heft and solid feel of the buttons and switches. And yes it needs the VF4 from time to time.
The E-PL7 is sibling to the E-M10ii, practically the same camera and they borrowed tech from the forthcoming E-M5ii and PEN-F. I've had the E-PL7 since 2014, it replaced the too small for my hands Panasonic GM1. And they can take photos every bit as good as the latest offerings.
The currently best selling OMD camera in Japan is not the OM-1 but the E-PL10. I reckon they should invest more in developing a nicer small quality feeling MFT camera. Yes the E-M10iv is practically the same size with tilt monitor and EVF, but it does not offer much more and is plastic-fantastic and not the jewel-like quality of the earlier cameras.
I have the E-PL2 and wanted ro upgrade from the 12 megapixels. Tried the EP5 and the E-PL7 -- for my taste they both had very poor grip (the E-PL2 is great that way, i dont even use a strap with it). Fwiw i like to be able to walk around with the camera "hanging" in my hand - and without it being too much of a strain to hold it. Your requirements may differ...
I haven't tried either of the models you've owned, but I was walking around with this E-PL8 in my hand all day with no neck or wrist strap and I didn't struggle with hand fatigue or anything like that. But, of course, everyone is different!
@@TomCalton interesting, thanks 👍🏼