The $300 Street Photography Camera No One Knows About
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- This $300 camera from Olympus can be bought in most places, including MPB (UK, USA and EU) - I bought this camera for £238, including the compact portrait lens. When it comes to Fujifilm and Leica styles vintage camera bodies, Olympus has been following the same style with their digital camera in their mirrorless lineup of OM cameras. This is the 3rd Micro Four Thirds sensor camera I have tried out and so far I think it's been the most pleasant photography experience, primarily down to my lens choice. Getting the same reach and focal length as an expensive full-frame 85mm in a compact size makes this camera a joy to carry with me - it even fits in my jacket pocket with the lens attached! If you're considering a Fujifilm X100V or even an X-T30 - this is a great alternative for the majority of people.
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It's not the size of the sensor it's how you use it 😭 my doctor told me MFT is above average
Nobody wants full frame anyway, it's too big 😂
,@@GeorgeHolden If you want to do poster size it's not too big.
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@@sassegranny4700 but you print poster cm 100x70 with micro 4/3
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About 5 months ago I stumbled across this exact Olympus EM10 camera at a thrift store. It had no lenses and no way to power it because the battery was dead, but for $9.99 US I took my chances. I took it home and charged the battery and the camera had problems. It would not stay powered on and the shutter curtain remained closed. I tried and tried to get it working with lenses that I have from a Lumix MFT but no luck and the problem seemed to be electronic. I thought maybe I'll just take my loss on this one and left it alone until I came across a TH-cam video that showed how to take it apart a week ago. I followed the video instructions and sure enoughwhen looking inside of it one of the small thin ribbon cable had become disconneted. I went ahead and disconeccted all the ribbon cables, cleaned all cables and conection with Isopropyl alcahol, assembled it back and Voila. It powered on instantly after the fix! I have been using it and am very impressed with the results. As you state in your video this camera is quit capable of some very nice images. Don't under estimate these older cameras they can take awesome photos!
Great deal despite the hard work! Always great to give a camera a new lease of life
please share the link to that video to fix the camera I have the same problem
@@GeorgeHolden you didn’t know anyone?
I'd also appreciate if you could share the link to the video you're talking about
I´m using the mk II version of this camera and the om-d em-5 III on all occasions, where portability is of importance to me. Those cameras deliver fantastic results and are way beyond "good enough" for most applications. My favorite MFT-lenses are the 17mm 1.8 and the 25mm 1.8. I´m also loving the 45mm 1.8 particularly for people photography, it´s a little "tight" for some other applications though.
Between the two you'll be set! I'm curious to try one of the newer versions as a travel camera too
I have EM-5 mk ii, with 25 mm f1.4, can you please suggest me a good but on budget lens for tele photo. I want something around 150-200 mm 35mm equivalent.
Yeah, the 17mm is perfect for street shooting when you don't want to get in too tight. When I used to shoot film, I had two OM-1s around my neck, one with a 50mm and the other with a 28mm, perfect combo.
@@Eren-da-Jaeger The 40-150 f4-5.6 R is great value and very light. It does only have a plastic mount but mine has lasted 5 years and plenty of travel/lens swapping without issues. Not PRO quality but perfectly good all the way out to 150 (300mm equivalent).
@@Eren-da-Jaeger There is the Olympus 40-150 f4-5.6 R ("plastic fantastic") mentioned in another reply, but also the same size and extremely good 14-150 f4-5.6 (FF equivalent of 24-300mm) . A perfect do-it-all camera in moderate to good light.
I've had an Em10 MK2 for a few years now and love using it for street and architecture, paired with vintage 50mm Minolta and Zuiko lenses it's capable of some fantastic images, the 45mm f1.8 for the money is also really usable. The m43 system just makes me smile every time I use it
Nice I haven't tried my Minolta lenses on MFT yet! And yes for sure, the joy of using a compact but powerful kit does put a smile on my face
@@GeorgeHolden with the 2x crop of MFT the vintage 50mm lenses are nice portrait and macro lenses at 100mm, I have some large format printe 90cm X 80cm using the em10mk2 and 50mm Minolta combo and the sharpness and image quality is fantastic.
Adapters are a whole new world. I've had interesting results with CCTV lenses.
Olympus is my favorite camera since 40 years! I’ll never want an other trade! This is a high quality camera!
That's loyalty! Thanks 😄
Switched from Canon to Olympus years ago and never looked back. I've been shooting for over 50+ years and have watched an interesting progression in photography from film to todays technology. Have several Olympus cameras and all give outstanding results. Unfortunately Olympus selling their camera division to OM Solutions and the pandemic supply issues has slowed progress but in reality it has affected the entire industry, not just one manufacturer. I see a lot of newer cameras on back order all across the board for a variety of reasons. Thanks for bringing this little jewel to light. Sony I think is still leading the pack in development of new products in the micro and full frame world. There is no perfect camera, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. One just needs to find what is right for them and really learn the equipment for their particular style of photography.
Very well put, thanks so much for watching and leaving your insight. Agreed every camera has it's place, I'm enough of a nerd to try 20 year old cameras with the same excitement of a brand new camera.
😀Love the slightly tongue-in-cheek references to the sensor and MFT nerds. I became one when I got an E-M10 mkii with 14-42 and 40-150 zooms to take travelling 5 years ago. As age increases the weight saving and size was my initial reason but I fell in love with photography again due to the portability and sheer fun these little cameras offer. Of course I did then move onto an E-M1 mkiii but I've kept the E-M10 as a "take anywhere" daily shooter. Great deals on used lenses too.
Hahha cheers!
I've always been well served by my various M43 cameras, and I find the lenses fantastic, even the inexpensive ones. I sometimes keep a full frame Sony with me but I think that is going to get retired. And now that some of the M43 cameras offer hand held hi res capabilities, that's even more of a game changer. Nice video !
Thanks! Yeah the lenses choices and prices surprised me a lot when I first started to look
FYI, from a former camera salesman and user of 4/3 cameras: there is no such thing as a "Micro 4/3 Sensor." That mirrorless Olympus has a 4/3 sensor-- the "micro" refers to the *lens mount*, which is smaller than older 4/3-equipped Olympus DSLR cameras like the E series (E-3, E-5) and some Panasonic cameras. I constantly had to remind other sales people--and customers who heard otherwise on the web--that the mount is micro, NOT the sensor.
Yes you are completely right, it's a four thirds sensor - but the micro four thirds system, becomes synonymous in my vocabulary - thanks for pointing it out
This irritating discombobulatory misnomer is one that you should just ignore or at least abide with. Just as with there being no centrifugal force in physics (its actually the effect of centripetal force that you experience), the odds are overwhelming that you will ever have any effect on the misuse of the combined terms "micro" and "4/3".and "sensor". Sometimes it is best to just engage in the fights you can win.
But you were not bothered when he said sensor is half the size of FF? Seems like a much more important misinformation😀 but as mft fanboy you kept quite i guess😁
Great video. I have been in photography as hobby for no doubt before you were born, I have FF, APSC, M43 and point and shoot. Few years back found an EM10 Mii for $300 at a pawn shop, works perfectly, and it became my EDC camera. then couple months ago found an EM10 Miiis for the same price so now I have 2. Love using them, great features, size, and just a joy to use.
Thanks Patrick! Love that you've tried plenty of sensor sizes, do you doing MFT is your favourite?
@@GeorgeHolden Yes I would have to say it is a favorite. i also have Lumix GX85, G95, G7, and an old EPL1. I will be second shooting a wedding next summer and will be using D750 and Z5 only because in the US, most people don't look at M43 as professional. However, I like Robin Wong's videos and he shoots weddings with M43 with no questions asked. I will most likely also use the EM10 at that wedding to see if I get any strange looks. It amazes me that people look down on what they don't understand or have never tried/used. Look forward to more of your videos. BTW, i am a retired engineer so now I can do all the photography I want lol.
@@patrickmcfadden1689 that's great to hear you have a variety of cameras you try out. I would say MFT for photography seems to be rarely used in professional work, despite MFT video cameras like Lumix GH series being very common and high level. I think the appearance makes a big difference, only now are Sony's full frame cameras more pro looking - but non-photogs will be expecting larger Canon or Nikon DSLRs!
The E-M10 mk III has crippled firmware, the mk II is the better camera.
Spot on. MFT is better than the Ricoh GRs for street. Take a LUMIX GX850, GX85 or GX9 and you’ll have better AF, a tilt screen and a choice of a tiny 14mm/f2.5 or tiny 20mm/f1.7. Image quality is nearly identical. Some people bash MFT, but I’ll bet many of them have never used one. At night, I use the Leica 15/1.7 or 25/1.4 or Olympus 45/1.7 for street photos. Even ISO 1600 is very good.
I'll admit my experience of MFT a few years ago was a GH5 with awful video autofocus, but recent street cameras I have used have changed my view of them in a big way - thanks for the recommendations!
YES!! I started wit Olympus because they’re so fun to use and vintage looking. I still use mine all the time!
Yeah I think the aesthetic and ergonomics can be overlooked! Similar to Fuji aesthetic but without the awkward ISO dial 😂
I have the EM10.2. I put the Lumix 20mm/1.7 pancake lens on it. Literally fits in a jacket pocket. Fast enough for indoors and evening shots. Amazing little camera.
Thanks! Great to know, I may try a compact lens soon
Is there alot of difference compared to the 25mm f1.7 ? Because im thinking of getting the Lumix g 20mm f1.7 for my em10.2.....and is it worth it?
@@mochidera3928 I bought my 20mm used for about half the new price. Works great. Some complain the 20mm is slow to focus but it's just not an issue for me. I think the 20mm MFT lens is a nice spot for general photography. The 25mm might be a bit tight for me. Anyhow, I'm very happy with the 20mm and can recommend it without reservation. Good luck!
@@mochidera3928 I have the 20mm and it is almost the perfect lens. Its one flaw is slow focus. But I love that lens and its great for night walks.
@@mochidera3928 Hi, about the Lumix 20mm f1.7, I use it in manual focus mode for street, and it's much sharper than it should be for the price. The AF is slow but OK if you have some extra time to set up your shot.
this video really warms my heart, because i started doing photography with an Olympus e-pl8 camera, and i bought for the looks of it for god’s sake.)
Rn i moved to sony a7r4, but god do i miss how small this camera is. And also how great is the bokeh with this 45mm f1.8. It is so tiny and so light, and looks good. Plus when you have a “vintage” looking camera, people are genuinely much more chill when you take their photo on the street, compared to big and bulky official looking sony, which caused several really nervous moments.
Yes absolutely! I find when I shoot with this camera at the moment hardly anyone notices, when I am out with a Sony it definitely attracts more attention
I was shopping for other camera(s) when I saw an E-PL7 in used showcase (mint) for $200 and bought it just on the darn good looks. That was my intro to Olympus and still impressed to this day compared to many “better” cameras. Have Pen F but E-PL7 still an active fav.
The micro four thirds sensor is actually one fourth the size of a full-frame sensor. The diagonal is about one half the length of the diagonal on a full-frame sensor.
Thanks! Already had a few comments 😅 my mistake, 2x crop factor but 1/4 size
Apsc is already less than half the size:)
I'm guessing you were too young to appreciate it at the time, but EVERYONE was talking about this camera when it came out! Not only did it make people like me switch from FF Canon to m43 (ten years ago now), it produced some of my best off-camera flash street photos because it was so comfortable to use. It was revolutionary, had the best stabilisation at the time for video, put m43 on the map, and was a joy to use. It's great to see it being rediscovered. By the way, I now shoot street with the A7C 😁
I was still very active in photography in 2014! I was a Canon guy back then, focused on video. That's great to hear, and yes the A7C is a fantastic choice 👍
@@GeorgeHolden I only went FF for street because I use a ton of legacy lenses. On m43 the focal length is doubled of course, so the A7C was perfect for them. Basically, I love FF and I love m43 equally 😁 Keep up the great work 👍
That must be Jamie!! Seen every episode.
@@zooniethelazoon nice to see you here, Mark ✌️⛵
A7C would be the smallest full frame street setup money can buy I think. And the sony lenses are pretty small for full frame as well. It's one thing that makes me want to switch off Nikon Z to Sony because I would feel more comfortable taking it out for street. it's mostly lens size though, Nikon Z primes are large.
This hits home and it's exactly the path I took. OMD EM 10 III, to Ricohs, to A7C.
M43 cameras taught me about photography, taught me how to move in and out of a scene. So many affordable lenses to try. I have the Mark III of this camera and brought it everywhere. The A7C has been godly in low light but I wouldn't appreciate photography without my M43 start.
Yeah I can totally relate! How is the MKIII? I think the boost in resolution would make it worth the upgrade
@@GeorgeHolden I believe the megapixels were only ever 16. The IBIS in the camera is amazing. The 4k looked good for video. It was my daily carry for about 3 years before I moved to the Ricohs. It has some sentimental value. Hahaha the M43 guy in the corner was really good, I find the community to be quite nice with some youtubers being defensive for sure.
@@hendrixg oh nice, I've yet to try s Ricoh! Yeah the MFT guy was a bit of fun 😂
m43 is fine in low light as long as you stick with the fast primes. Anything over f2.8 is just too slow as the AF hunts too much.
This comment stood out to me. I'm about to go on this exact journey. I literally was looking into seeing the Olympus last week because I want using it and was trying to get a griii.
But maybe I should keep it?
Really enjoyed your sense of humor. Since when did we as camera aficionado’s decide that everything has to be so serious? Thanks mate.
Cheers! There's time and place for both I think
I have an EM10 Mk2 and it's been wonderful camera. Bought the body about 4 years ago for roughly the same price. I travel a lot for work and ride a bicycle, so the more compact size has been great for me. A minor but fun feature is when using this or my EM5, people often think I am using an older film camera.
Yes having the camera as an everyday carry makes these bodies a no brainer!
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I went from a E-M10 Mk II to a E-M1 Mk II and have enjoyed both since starting photography in 2020. For a general hobbyist they've been perfect for me. If I were to go up in sensor size i'd probably go to Fuji APSC tbh.
Yes agreed I think for a street focused hobbyist they're an easy decision!
I bought my em10 Mkii direct from Olympus for £350 with kit lens and 3.5 yr warranty. I have now added two prime lenses from Sigma - 30 and 60 mm 2.8 lenses . I keep the 30 fixed to the camera and the 60 makes a wonderful portrait lens . Both are very sharp and focus very well.
The em10 Mkii has touch screen capabilities and can be used to reposition the focus point quite easily .
It is not only a great street camera , it is also a great all day camera .
For wide angle shots I have my phone with a 28 mm 1.8 in full term .
That's a great deal to get, agreed the Mki is fantastic already so having the extra functionality would be a big boost!
More like f18 ff equivalent (not even that really) 😁 and your sigma is 120mm 5.6 equivalent, does a prime so slow even exist for FF? Bellow 400mm?😁 at least get a 45mm 1.8?
I have the same body paired with the 17mm f1.8. Fantastic combination! Even used this setup as a “pocketable third camera” on a wedding shoot.
Literally pocketable!
You guys are raising prices for used goods
this is why canon nikon sony pentax dslr is much better prbbly
Fantastic image and incredibly compact with a Panasonic Leica 15 mm f/1,7. It's my combo for more than 6 years now.
Nice set up idea!
Amazing video as always!! Your video on the lumix lx100 made me super enthusiastic about (street) photography, and I bought my first camera today! So far it's been amazing, so thank you for the inspiration!! Keep up the good work :)
Ah amazing! That's great to hear 😄 which camera did you decide to pick up?
@@GeorgeHolden I chose the lumix gx80 with the kit lens and a 40-150mm zoom lens. It's honestly great! The stabilisation for video is really nice and im impressed by the low light capabilities :D
@@bobabun that's great to hear! There's a gx80 available in a local used shop, may go get some hands on 😄
I bought the Olympus E-M10 camera in perfect 2nd hand condition and also the 45mm f1.8 and yes it's a truly great camera. I sold the Panasonic Gx7 body but kept the lens for the Olympus. I found the Olympus E-M10 a better camera than the Panasonic G series compact system 4/3rds l've owned for various reasons such as pocket size and picture quality.
😆Love the "mini me" in the background. So clever!! Thank you for sharing this!! I love my Olympus film cameras and have hesitated on M4/3 but you make a great argument for street.
Thanks! 😄 And they're definitely worth getting your hands on to try out and see how you find it
As a lifelong Olympus user I really enjoyed this video. In the late 80's to early 90's I was a photojournalist for a few daily newspapers. I still have my Domke canvas bag filled with my OM 3, OM 2 and OM 1 and various Zuiko lenses. My favorite lens is my 24 mm F2 superwide angle.
Olympus produced some seriously underrated glass.
Mft is great system to have
You can buy a set of prime lens without broke the bank
Lens suggested to have : om 17 1.8 , pancake 20 1.7 , Panasonic 25mm , om 45 1.8
For wide angle the 7-14 f4 is small and nice to have
Tele lens go look a 100-300 but that one a bit soft at the tele end
OM 12-50 come with a mini macro function and it have similar to 24-100 angle of view ( slow aperture but good for walk around lens as the range is good)
Alternative if you don't need lens swapping : lx100
Bridge version if you want slightly more range covered : sony rx10 mark I or II ( 1 inch CMOS but very good performance)
Thanks! Yes the lens selection is fantastic and you cann get great deals compared to other lens mounts
I'm an Olympus shooter and love the format. I sell my work and have never had a client say "oh why are you using m4/3 and not a f/f camera"!
I hear you!
I've been using micro4/3 for street photography since the Olympus E-P2 and the Panasonic GH-1. The GH-1 is still in use, and now I'm on an Olympus E-M10.
They have the BEST inexpensive lenses of any camera system on planet earth.
Great to hear!
any lens to recommend? considering the panasonic 12-32 mainly for street due to its compactness
@@mchonnyable -- I was a big fan of the 12-32, until it literally fell apart on me! The original Olympus 14-42 was an extremely well made lens, but can be hard to find, but I would recommend that one.
Currently, I use fixed focal length lenses the most: the Lumix 20mm and the Lumix 14mm.
Another excellent lens is the Olympus 12-40mm f.2.8, but that is a big, heavy lens. Image quality is unsurpassed.
awesome thanks - i am actually picking one used next week - ive left my em-10ii for too long on the shelf so decided to start reusing it as I mainly shoot film lately but that has gotten a little too expensive - i think the 12-32 will be nice combo with the size of the olympus body @@ronzack4572
This was my first camera when i started diving into photography. Never failed me, excellent picture quality.
That's awesome!
What de name of the camera 😅
@@rubayeepanchu6603 you'd know if you watched the video! It's the OM-D E-M10
I think the screen is touch and you just missed it. The green shutter button icon at left side off the screen is a hint that it is touch enabled. Actually in the mode that it shows, if you touch the screen, it will focus and shoot.
By clicking on that icon, you can cycle through deferent modes, including disabling touch.
Yes it is, my mistake!
I swapped my Canon 77D (I just couldn't get used to it after shooting with Olympus for 20 years) for the Olympus OM-D E-M10II and gosh, am I happy with it! It is like the perfect marriage ;-)
Thank you for this video!
weird decision cause canon has 24 and 40mm STM for videos, but welp
when you switch the mode dial to M (manual) and you push the center joypad to enter on screen menu, the screen will become touchscreen. it also works in gallery scrolling. i own one. em10 mark i
Thank you! Yes I cracked it and it works now
@@GeorgeHolden youre very welcome. happy to hear it!
That camera and especially that Olympus 45mm f1.8 is LEGENDARY!!! It takes amazing photos!!!!
Amazing combination
I own two Micro 4/3 cameras and one full frame camera. I use them professionally for real estate photography. The image quality of the M4/3 cameras is every bit as good as the image quality of the full frame. Each system has its own advantages and disadvantages.
Agreed! No perfect system so whatever works best for your use case 😄
If you are talking about photos, no, it is not. Not that a general statement like that even makes sense, it is obviously dependant on a lot of things (camera, lens, tripod, light..).
But it is good enough for real estate.
@@lukazupie7220 Yes, I am talking about shooting in normal light and viewing the images online. I’m talking about from a practical perspective. My Panasonic G9’s images look every bit as good as those taken by the S5 or S5ii. Of course a full size sensor has advantages, capturing more light, typically a higher resolution (but not always), better dynamic range and color depth. But you cannot tell the difference with the naked eye unless you are making large prints or zooming in and pixel peeping.
@@mediamannaman 👍
i was making real estate photos years ago.. by far the biggest website for real estate in my country had a limit on resolution of photos and it was absolutely pathetic, i don’t remember what it was but it was well bellow “full hd”. I delivered my photos in full HD for most clients.😀
George, if you want an even greater Olympus bargain, the original EM-1 is a total steal. Yes it’s somewhat larger and heavier than your EM-10, though not excessively so, but it’s build quality is in a different league. Unlike later versions of the camera, the original EM-1 has a flip-up screen, which I feel is far better suited to street photography, and it’s also fully waterproof with a shutter rated for 150,000 actuations. I already have an EM-5 mk2 and an EM-10 mk2, but picked up my EM-1 earlier this year, complete with grip and in very good condition for just £200. Image quality will be every bit as good, if not better, than the EM-10, but in what amounts to a professional quality body totally suited for outdoor use.
8:32 the LCD is a touchscreen though, you can enable it by clicking the button on the left side of the screen to have it either touch for shutter or touch for focus or just disable
Thank you for correcting me, I have found out my touchscreen doesn't work 100% but yes it DOES have a touchscreen - my mistake! Mine seems to work in the bottom left but no where else 🤣
I'm glad I found this video. I just found one of these for 200$ and I was a bit worried that I got too enthusiastic too fast. I am yet to receive the parcel, but it's from the main pro retailer here and I am confident it will be in good shape. Street photography has always been my bread and butter, so I am very excited to start playing with this new toy. It will complement my Sony alpha 6000 nicely.
Great video. Never understood why Olympus doesn't go after the street photographers more. Everything about their systems fit the street photographers.
Thank you! I am 100% guilty of talking down on Olympus for a while, but it wasn't until I was looking for a compact interchangeable lens street camera that I suddenly saw they ticked most of my boxes!
Such a nice video to watch
I am a believer that Street Photography can be done with any camera
Last year I bought a Nikon D70S with a Tamron zoom lens 70-300 mm
Well I have to say that shooting with this small beast of a camera is so much fun
I highly recommend buying an old DSLR with CCD sensor
And it goes the same when it comes to Olympus
I think Olympus is the underdog brand that every street photographer should try because the results are very good and elegant as I noticed
I have never used an Olympus camera but I do intend to buy one in the near future
I have to say that Olympus dose deserve a chance
Thank you! 😊 That's a great point re old DSLRs, street can definitely be done with any camera we have access to!
I've been agonizing about my first camera for street photography. I've watched so many videos (including many of yours) and read so many articles. I finally arrived at ... complete decision paralysis. But for whatever reason this video got me out of it. I just bought an Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II with a M.Zuiko lens. Used your reference to get some money off, too. Thanks!
Great to hear Jason! Hope it treats you well, such a difficult decision to make so I'm happy to help 😄
People know about MFT cameras. More people would know if basically every blog and TH-camr weren’t saying “crop sensor is worthless trash, go full frame or you’re wasting your time”. Social media influencers were one of the biggest factors in the decline of MFT sales (ironic since vlogging is one of the solid use cases for the small kits with solid ibis and video quality).
The E-P5 was and still is a great camera with optional evf. The prices have gone up lately due to a shift in supply and demand with videos coming out like “I got this instead of a Leica for walking around and street”.
Completely agree full frame is pushed, I don't think blogs and TH-camrs see the negative side effects much, it can mean those with less free cash think they can't afford THE camera they should buy. Whereas there's a whole world of great cameras that are still great options and can be bought super-cheap compared to their release price
The Olympus OM-D E-M10 mk ii was my first M43 camera and I was extremely impressed. I currently use the E-M5 mk ii and I love it. I pick up my Olympus way more than my Nikon APS-C. Im debating unloading my Nikon gear to fund an OM-D E-M1 Mk II.
That's interesting! You could get a larger set of MFT for sure, plenty of affordable options to try out
@@GeorgeHolden honestly i am debating on selling off my Nikon gear in order to afford a Panasonic kit or an upgraded Olympus body like the E-M1 mark ii
I have had one for a couple of years. Doesn't get used as much as it probably should, but I always have it ready to go in my rucksack. It's a lovely bit of kit, the Kylie Minogue of cameras. Compact and beautiful.
Love a Kylie camera!
I’ve had an EM10 for 9 years after downsizing from Canon DSLR, I could have 2 cameras for the size of a DSLR in a small bag, the OMD EM10 and a Ricoh GR. I’ve used it with manual lenses of all descriptions with adapters and mounts.
Great to hear! I'm experimenting more with mine at the moment
Every fedora wearing hipster owned one back in 2012-14.
Loved mine.... great JPGs and could handhold down to 1/2 second easily! Fantastic for family or travel use when i didn't want to lug my heavy FF bodies.
MFT cameras are great for street photography and brilliant for travel photography plus a 50% sized sensor means calculating 35mm lens equivalents is easy just double the focal length. Much easier than multiplying by 1.5 or 1.6 for a crop sensor. As I use my camera mostly for travelling the weight saving for the complete kit means I never leave anything behind because it is too bulky or heavy.
Turns out I was mistaken and the sensor is 1/4 sized - I can't do maths apparently 🤣
@@GeorgeHolden The focal length is still x2 to calculate so a 25mm MFT is equivalent to a full frame 50mm. Plus another travel advantage is the increased depth of field over full frame.
Loved that first creeper shot. Very well done.
Hahaha thanks!
I bought a (used) E-M10II - a bit more modern, slightly (but only slightly) more IQ, same 16 MP resolution. By now I use it more than my Pen F (20 MP) and found it to be better than I thought it would be. Great price tag, good build quality, and if a mishap should occur - not much money lost. This makes up for the missing weather sealing. The small F1.8 primes are affordable and generally of decent quality, even some professional m43 users use them, even though there are better lenses for professional use (e.g. the F1.2 pro lenses from Olympus/OMDS). I find it funny that there are so many new videos suddenly "finding out" about the advantages of m43, that long-time users were aware of all the time (and which got them into it in the first place) … 😉
That's great thanks! Yes I think specifically within the street photography crowd they fit an interesting need compared to filmmaking or professional photography in fast paced situations
I have been shooting micro four thirds for ten years and still love it
Great to hear!
Any camera is appropriate for street photography, I often use medium format along with a variety of film rangefinders, slr’s and dslr’s.
Agreed! It's the camera you feel comfortable with at the end of the day 👍
I have the OMD mk4 and using the f1.8 45mm as my first camera. So far I have really enjoyed using it for street and food photography. I am thinking of getting a 25mm also. For me starting out and learning photography, I always thought big camera and big lenses looked better and would be better overall. But when reviewing my small set up compared to some canon users, I was very surprised how nice of a picture my camera can take. Some photographers on instagram where quite surprised. I would like to upgrade to a full frame camera to get a feel of it, but also I will be sticking to my 4/3 for some time and just using different lenses.
The 45/1.8 on the EM-10 is a magical combo. I also shoot the Zhongyi 25/.95 on my EM-10. If you don’t mind manual focus, you get full-frame DOF in a tiny package. Great video!
Thank you! I hadn't heard of that Zhongyi - I suppose such low F stop can only be MF!
@@GeorgeHolden The Zhongyi 25 0.95 in practice is just an f1.4.
There are FF 0.95 lenses, the best known are the Canon RF and the Leica Noctilux. Just by playing a little with a DOF calculator you will realize that at the same framing the focal length influences the depth of field more than f
I love the way the guy keeps creeping in from the back room. Very informative. Nice sense of humor really like the video.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed!
I've been using Olympus m43 for the last 8 years or so in a 'professional' capacity. I've had people initially laugh at me for not owning a 'pro' camera, until of course when they see the results, and they quickly shut up and are 'wow'd' by the images. Of course m43 won't make you a better photographer, only experience will do that, but m43 certainly allows me to work for longer as it doesn't hurt my shoulders or back which Nikon or Canon did. I just purchased a spare Olympus E-M1 mk 1 on eBay going ridiculously cheap (£100) because it had a very high shutter count. But these cameras are so well engineered, are all metal and weather-sealed, they've got so much life left in them- a bit like Nissan cars which seem to go on forever. You can also mimic Ricoh GR's 'snap focus' function on them to an extent, a vital tool for instant street photo gratification. The mk2 is better for this, but the mk1 will do it too, but you cannot pre-program the distance limit and save that like you can on the E-M1 mk2 or E-M5 mk3. Turn 'lens reset' off in the menu, use the back button feature to set the focus to the distance you want, aperture at f8 and you're good to go.
Oh I didn't know about that snap focus feature, thanks!
@@GeorgeHolden don't get too excited. It's not as polished as what is found on the Ricoh, but at least you can simulate it by using the back focus customisation and turning the 'reset lens' function off in the cogwheel menu. One good way to set it up whilst off for a shoot is, depending how tall you are, holding the camera facing down towards the ground next to you forehead, and pushing the AEL/AFL button (don't know what it is on the E-M10, but it will be there somewhere). Also experiment with 'MySet's as these allow you to save up to four customisations beforehand. The secret to reliable street photography is always being ready to shoot. If you have a rough idea of the distance between camera and subject going on your height, and get in close within that distance, you should be able to get a good sharp shot using the hyperfocal distance you've just set up. I also recommend using only one lens, not a zoom. The 17mm 1.8 is excellent (as is the 2.8 pancake version), and also the PanaLeica 15mm 1.7. Worth knowing that DJI released this exact same lens but under their own name for a lot less money.
Hey, longtime EM-10 owner here. Having been gifted the camera as a kid back in 2014, I recently discovered that the screen does in fact have touch functionality. While shooting, if you want it to focus on a specific point, tap that point on the screen and it will focus and snap the shot. Surprised it took me nearly a decade to realize this.
I just got an EM-5 for the idea of street photography. I wanted a camera that wouldn't take up too much space and the Olympus lineup seemed to fit the bill. The reviews for the cameras were alright and the EM-5 series seemed to be where I could tolerate the cost. I'd love to get a full frame camera one day, but for now this little fella will tag along with me for as long as it's got life and I've got photos to take. I didn't know about this lense, I'll have to look into finding one. Thanks for this video!
Thank you! I think if size is a priority MFT suits most of us for street photography!
Agreed, I like the points about portability, and size. I have an Em5 mk1, which I bought cheaply for when the mark 2 came out and I love it. I also like to use my Pentax Q-S1 for street photography. It has a "tiny" 1/1.7" sensor size. The advantage is that the camera body, with 3 lenses weigh as much as a full frame lens. The 15-45 (70-200 equiv) f2.8 is my favourite, it weighs only 150 grams (5 oz). I'm sad they didn't continue the line.
Yes portability is always an important factor!
The EM5 was my first m43 camera, and there have been many since then. My EM5 still works very well, and the ability to have a small, high quality camera with tiny primes can't be underestimated. The image quality of that sensor with today's raw processing programs remains outstanding. Later cams like the GX85 have better video, but the EM5 has better ergonomics, even with a grip for the GX85.
Yes I can see how the ergonomics of the GX series don't suit everyone, still an interesting lineup!
I bought the EM5 way way back in 2013. Bought it with the 17mm and 45mm 1.8 lenses. for I think about $1300. Loved it with the 17mm for street and travel I mean LOVED. I have the PEN F now as a team mate to my Nikon D850.
Great to hear! Yes I think for travel it's hard to beat size wise
Its precursor and the first of the Oly slr-style cameras is also a great choice, the E-M5. It can be had for under $200 these days. Pair with "bargain" lenses such as the Lumix 12-32 and 25, and you're in business for under $400. Though I have long since stopped doing street photography, I use this setup to really good effect.
Yes that's great to hear! So many good deals to be had for not much money these days in MFT! I wander what Olympus will do in the future as other brands move away from MFT
@@GeorgeHolden I love that I can adapt old vintage lenses so easily to my M43 systems.
@@GeorgeHolden It's really not Olympus anymore, but OM Systems or some such. I very much doubt they'll try to target consumer grade cameras, but more high end stuff. No more $500 bodies. So, for bargain M43, we'll have to keep looking at used Olympus and Panasonic camera bodies.
@@d.r.martin6301 yes OM Systems now pop up in my shopping ads all the time! Curious what they'll do in the future
The M10 II is the gem in the whole range. It has the better IBIS, it's metal, and not intentionally crippled in the name of model differentiation like the Mark III. The f/1.8 lenses are tiny indeed. And specifically for street, one would rarely need more than the 17, 25 and 45 in terms of focal lengths. All in all - a cool looking and well performing little camera. It was a joy to use when I had one. One more note - if you have bigger hands and find the camera too small, find the original Olympus ECG-3 grip. It makes the body a bit bigger, but also a bit more comfortable and has a neat trick to replace the battery from the bottom, without removing the grip.
That's good to know, let's see where I go next 😂
I had both the EM5i and EM10i. Honestly, i preferred the images from the EM5i. Hard to put into words why, but they just looked better somehow.
That's interesting!
haha actually I am talk about Olympus cameras and daily use them for street and my professional work as well. And yeah the 45mm f1.8 is my all time fav lens I use it 90% for my work and I shoot a big variety from commercial, to product, to food and weddings. Great to see someone else is love and make content about Olympus cameras!
Glad you liked it! Yes the 45mm is amazing
It looks very much like an OM 1. I had one in the 70s. It was a great little 35mm SLR. It was my first SLR. I later replaced it with a Nikon F2.
Thanks for sharing! We have an old OM 10 around and love the design
I’m restarting my photography journey, funnily enough, with an Olympus OM20! I’m really enjoying working with a camera that has settings for ASA, shutter speed, and nothing else. It’s cool to see the style and form-factor be present as a digital camera!
Good vid! I still have my OMD EM5 'classic' with the 45mm and I bring it out to the street every now and then. The OLY color science is underrated in my opinion. Another good 'bargain' lens for even less than the Oly 45mm is the Panasonic G 25mm f/1.7 ASPH.
Yes the 25mm was my original choice but I was tempted by the reach and design of the 45mm
I'm a Fuji shooter. I sold my X100T several months ago, because of lack of use and flexibility. I did like the compact size. I discovered the Fuji X-M1 and ended up getting one for a great price of $220 in great condition. Since I wanted a compact lens, I bought a TTArtisan 27mm f2.8 AF lens ($130). This is proving to be a nice setup for street photography and pocketable camera. The only thing I miss is a viewfinder. But it has a tilt screen with a sunlight setting. BTW, nice video and great comparison data.
That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!
I use the Olympus Pen EP-5. It has the tilting screen too, but being Rangefinder-esque it is even more discrete. Having said that, because it is such a good looking camera, it often becomes a talking point when I take it out to shoot.
Keen to try one out or a GX series from Lumix!
I believe the sensors are the same as the original e-m5
@@hh.c436 I’m not so sure
The EP-5 can shoot 11 raw frames a second
Which was extremely fast for the time. It might have a different sensor with a higher read out speed. But I don’t really know
I bought an E-M10 brand new years ago and it's still my only camera. I love the fact that it doesn't weigh half a ton and doesn't have a huge hand grip that is uncomfortable for my medium size male hands. Everything else, even things like the E-M1, look and feel so large in comparison and I find I just can't get comfortable with handling them.
Amusingly in these days of people using their phones to take photos, most people think (and sometimes say) I'm using a top end huge camera. I occasionally have trouble with places saying "no professional photography" and I have to explain they're just for personal use.
Agreed when you get to the size of an EM-1 you can get a larger sensor! I feel your pain, too many place think entry mirrorless are pro just because of the interchangeable lens!
I love this video!! Well produced and great information. Also to add I think m43 is great because most of the time in Street photography isn’t about “super bokeh” so having more DOF can actually be an advantage
That is actually such a good point that I overlooked - these days even on full frame I'm never down at 1.8, deeper depth of field does allow for more context. Thank you!
Another good point!
Personally I try to take pictures that are in focus, and greater depth of field helps.
I shall whisper.......I'm a micro 4/3 camera user, but I'm not very sensitive about it!! I owned a M10 and then replaced it with a M10 Mark II which is still in my bag along with the M1 Mark II. As an amateur photographer, the micro 4/3 system meets my needs and my budget. I suggest that with your larger hands, consider adding a grip as they don't make the camera that much larger but improve the grip tremendously. And, if you go with the Mark II, you get the touch screen which can be very handy for quickly selecting your focus point. The micro 4/3 system offers tremendous bang for the buck if you shop for used gear. As with any system, it has its strengths and weaknesses but as I'm not exactly a young buck anymore, I appreciate having a smaller and lighter kit in which I can still carry several lenses.
Thanks! Definitely I think a grip would make things easier but for now I'd like to keep this handy compact size - the newer generations of this camera are definitely tempting for the added touch screen too!
Good looking camera. One thing to note, sensor size doesn’t affect light gathering. If you set a FF and a M43 camera to the same SS, ISO, and aperture, the exposure on both photos will be the same. The high ISO noise performance can be better on a FF, because the pixels are usually bigger, but that’s another subject.
Right? Depth of field would be the more noticeable difference
Thanks, yes that's been addressed a couple of times - I should have mentioned photosite size rather than sensor size
this ignores the difference of the actual sensor noise performance though. As far as i'm aware when driving a CMOS sensor; depending on the size, you have to change the electrical current sent to the sensor (as CMOS sensors are not passive, unlike CCD sensors), depending on the current, your noise performance will suffer, a FF sensor will need more electricity for the photosites than a MFT sensor, which gives the FF sensor a better noise performance, because you won't have to drive the ISO as high, ISO values are matched for exposure, not for how much gain they are actually doing on an analog level, so even if the pixel pitch was the same, Full Frame cameras will still have slightly better noise performance simply due to the size do the sensor.
This is the same reason that a MFT camera with a hypothetical "MFT to Full Frame Speedbooster" still would not give you every advantage of a true full frame camera, even though the pixel pitch would become almost identical, the full frame camera would still perform slightly better.
Pixel pitch and image circle is by far the most important aspect though, MFT cameras need lower megapixel counts to perform the same as FF cameras in terms of noise, but get worse sharpness as a consequence.
All these issues of lowlight really aren't as important as they used to be though, modern cameras have Dual ISO circuits and perform incredibly well even at high ISOs on small sensors, the image circle issue is probably the biggest for most people, as you can't use the entirety of your lens.
for vintage lenses especially, not being able to use the entirety of the image circle becomes really annoying, lenses like the helios 44 are sought after specifically because of the swirly bokeh that occurs on the corners especially, and when adapting a helios to a MFT camera without a speedbooster, you're essentially just using a normal lens, as most of the character of vintage lenses isn't really found in the center of the image.
That is not true at all. ff is that much better at low light mostly bcs it simply "gathers" more light and that is bcs it is bigger. 43 "gathers" about 1/4 of light at same t stop compared to ff.
60mp ff cameras are similar to 20mp ff cameras when it comes to low light. 43 with similar pixel density (16mp) is nowhere close.
@@GeorgeHolden no, you shouldn't.
I used the EM-10 for street photography. I have for years. I great amazing pictures with it. The best part is the easy switch to monochrome in the art filters. It's really good. I never go to NYC with out it.
Try the Lumix GX80 with a 12-32 "kit" lens. Super light, fits in a jacket pocket and the lens collapses like a vintage Leica for carrying. The sensor is not huge but still much bigger than a typical fixed lens compact (not to mention a phone camera). A4 size prints look good.
I bought one for holidays and day trips where I didn't want to be lugging a heavy Nikon DSLR around. Asd the old saying goes, "the best camera is the one you have with you, not the one you left at home". I am considering selling the Nikon as it doesn't get much use now.
As you have discovered, there are some lens bargains available, like the 45mm prime. Also, Chinese CCTV lenses with adapters are super cheap and really good fun.
That sounds great! The MFT zooms look really good despite the lack of low F stop options
I have that Pana 12-32 lens and love it with my E-M10. Out at night on holiday it's the only lens I carry, no point having a longer focal length at night anyway.
@@owensmith7530 thanks!
I have a MK3 and it is a great, light and very fun camera to shoot. It has a color universe of its own and OMD 10 shoots vintage looking images. Very fun camera to use.
I still have my almost 10 year old E-M5. The menu system was never my cup of tea, but got images I was really happy with. The 9-18mm zoom is a fantastic travel/tourist lens. If there were a weather sealed version of the 20mm pancake I'd probably still have it in my pocket every day.
I will say I agree on the menu, it's not the worst (I have a Sony too) but something so easy to improve
I have the same camera, EM5 Mk I. In the past 10 years I’ve had it, it’s never let me down.
@@dasIDS It’s been a humorous rant I make to friends and family about that paradox between Olympus and Fujifilm: Olympus had tiny weather sealed bodies, but the sealed lenses are all larger. Fujifilm makes tiny weather sealed prime lenses, but the smaller bodies aren’t. I really wish there was a weather sealed version of the X-Txx or X-Ex lines.
Agreed the 9-18mm zoom is incredible for a lens that telescopes in so small.
Great informative video! I just bought one for only €75, it comes with the mail tomorrow and I can't wait to try this great little camera.
That's awesome! Hope you enjoy it when it arrives 😄
Olympus make amazing bodies and lenses. The EM5 I had was superb. Very comfortable and great 8mage quality. Regarding sensor size, I sort of disagree with the assessment that larger sensors equates to better light gathering capabilities. An exposure value of a scene is not affected by the sensor size, all that changes is the comparative depth of field, and in all likelihood how noise is handled as a result of the sensor size. If you want to do more discreet street work, bang on the body cap lens lens and setup accordingly.
Good points, I have swayed more towards smaller sensor and their benefits but can't say I think they perform great with ISO noise
Thank you for the video.
I do a lot of street photography as a hobbyist; it gives me immense pleasure. So, I practice it everyday. Picking up from my arsenal; my old horse Canon 7D paired with the kit lens EFS18-135 IS STM is the best setup. Granted it doesn't meet the lighter combo format however, offers everything I need - fast focusing, quick shooting, great frame-rate, good zoom range and so forth.
Thank you and that's great to hear!
LUMIX M4/3 were some of the first mirrorless cameras. Some great photos from the GX7 and 25mm prime lens.
Great to know!
Great camera. I started on micro four thirds format when I was learning photography. I shoot full frame, but never regreted using Micro Fourthirds. Eventually I will get one again.
Good to know! It's taken me years to give it a go again after not clicking with a GH5 a few years back
I've used Olympus cameras as my workhorses since I got into photography past my smartphone. The M43 sensor is actually a quarter the size of the full frame-sized sensor, and it works for me aesthetically. Full frame narrowness of depth of field can provide more separation at wide angles, which is fun to get, but it needs some finesse to make sense in the final output, as requires light, color, contrast, pose/gesture, etc.
And I know you're joking about M43 fanatics, but I think part of the defensiveness of some of them comes from anticipating that all people who critique M43 are trolls who only ever deride the format and will only use full frame - full frame fanatics who think the M43 sensor is too small, basically. Fanatics ruin any kind of hobby or interest, tbh. They perpetuate certain stereotypes and are general buzzkills, to put it politely.
Personally, I don't think full frame is overrated or overpriced because the sensor is larger, just more of a specialist tool for higher resolution and more dynamic range at base ISO for moving subjects. And also, each company's camera systems have their own strengths and quirks, so one risks overgeneralization when just comparing the sensor formats. i.e. I don't particularly like the GX85's menu, but I get along with the Nikon df's menu and of course the Olympus menus well enough. That is to say, despite the marketing, choice of gear is rather personal and is merely a means to an end, anyway: the photograph.
Anyway, glad to see you enjoyed the E-M10. Now you're drinking the Kool-Aid with the rest of us. :o)
The MFT Kool-Aid is strong 😂 I'm always trying new kit, I think as a fan of tech and photography the curiosity is too strong and I need to see for myself. Full frame will remain my choice for professional work bit MFT for street and casual is a match made in heaven
1/2 the size, 1/4 of the area of full frame
@@FinalManaTrigger true, I actually meant area when I wrote that, but point taken. I think it makes the performance more impressive if I cite the smaller number for the M43 sensor that a certain you know who finds as tiny as smartphone sensors
I've had the EM10 for years and traveled with it all over the world. Love it to bits.
Fantastic piece of kit
I bought an 0M10 mk1 about a year ago for £95 . Takes great photos but is a bit flaky around the edges of the body like the USB cover has perished. Just got a mk3 yesterday for just over £200 which is pristine and has a 4k shutter count. I bought these to try out some street photography. I already had a GH5 which I use mainly for video.
Sounds like a fantastic combo, share the lenses across two great cameras!
The E-M10 mk III has crippled firmware unfortunately, in the name of model range differentiation. The mk II is fine, after that you have to go to the E-M5 for non crippled firmware. I don't know why Olympus did such a stupid thing.
I use olympus cameras indoors for taking pictures of flowers at flower shows, the lighting is subdued, so as not to spoil the blooms. The picture requirement is for the flower to be sharp front to back. So I can use sharp primes with the IBIS enabling the flower to be sharp. Half a flower being Bokeh wouldn't be acceptable. Usually taking around 600 -700 photographs in less than an hour, with out flash.
What some people say are disadvantages of MFT are all advantages for me.
The added depth of field in the system means I don't have to stop the lens down as much as I would with a Full Frame camera, so for me and this type of photography MFT is the best compromise. If I were into another type of photography may be I'd find a different sensor size a better compromise. I'd still need to look for a camera that didn't have an Anti-Aliasing filter though, as I started with APS-C and the AA filter always mushed the picture.
That's great to hear thanks Malcolm!
I shot professionally with a em5Il for a year. I ended up moving to Sony FF, but I think people will be shocked by what you get out of it as long as you're aware of it's DR and keep the iso as close to 200 as possible.
That's good to know, thanks!
I shot 100’s of commercial assignments including music videos and magazine covers with the EM5 and 45/1.8. It’s a very good camera to this day. Never had issues with quality and because of the size the subject was more relaxed and the shoot became more conversational which translated to better photos
Been using M10 since 2015, now paired with Leica 12-60mm F2.8-4 lens, occasionally with Leica 25mm F1.4 lens. Both are very light, fast and very sharp.
I already have M-5 Mk III as my main camera for three years and was trying to convince myself to sell M10 because M-5 Mk III has better 20Mpix sensor which is about 2EV more sensitive to light.
And then I take a really good shot with the older sensor.
That's cool! Do you plan to keep the M10 too?
@@GeorgeHolden Definitely keeping it. Also the LCD definitely IS touchscreen and can be used for focus/take picture with single touch :D
Regarding sensors... The critique from Fullframe point of view towards M43 is true for the 16Mpix sensors, but its not true since 2012 when 20Mpix sensor was introduced. I compared my cameras to find out that M10 shows -2EV where M5MKIII shows 0EV in manual mode on same scene. The claims about bokeh are mostly false, its more a lens characteristic and has nothing to do with sensor itself.
I will be using EM-5 MkIII for more serious work, but carrying M10 with decent lens makes it great even for pro-level work. Pop out flash is also surprisingly nice thing to have and metal body looks and feels nice.
Totally agree I’ve missed my m43 setup. I fell for the FF hype however I never found any difference in image quality. I’m getting back to m43 my whole camera journey in 3 years has been Panasonic g95, Panasonic g9, Panasonic GX85, Panasonic GX9, Panasonic s5, Ricoh GR III, Ricoh CV4, Ricoh WG-6, Pentax k70, Pentax K1, Pentax p30, Pentax mx1, Chinon cm5, Minolta G HI-Matric, Sigma DP Quattro, Canon R, Fujifilm xe2, , Fujifilm x100v, Nikon z30, Nikon z50, Nikon z30, Panasonic s5
That's quite the journey of cameras! Great to try our so many brands and models 👍
@@GeorgeHolden yes G.A.S was bad for sure
If you would consider the 5 axis stabilisation it is excellent to make pictures with low light. Try the Pen-F second hand for same price if you are lucky … i got it new for £400
That's great to hear, thanks!
Amazing, last week I bought the Pana GX9 and OM E-M10 mark III and they’re amazing camera. Thanks
Nice! Any reason you bought both?
@@GeorgeHolden Hi, I’ve discovered these camera with a friend searching small street camera and we’ve tested some one.
These two were the best one with very good results for less than 300€
Pretty little thing. I have the em10ii 3 years. I do foto shoots with it too! Image quality is stunningly good. Got the 17mm 1.8 as allround lens and the 45mm 1.8 and 75mm 1.8. The 30mm macro as well. Just recently also a em5ii . If you opt for a fullframe about the same size you should choose the z series from nikon... but hey that is a very different price tag...
Wait, am I the pretty little thing? Or, the camera!? Of course you meant the camera 😂
@@GeorgeHolden hahaha right 📸😊
I have Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, Olympus and all kinds of lenses. Olympus e m1 and Lumix 20mm 1.7 is my favorite combo.
That's great!
I tried em5ii, was really laggy for its midrange level. Surprisingly when I tried epl7, it's even better than em5ii for casual usage. I bought that and pair it with 25 1.8. My compact casual driver
That's interesting, so far the E-M10 isn't too laggy at all
@@GeorgeHolden I forgot the exact case when I judged it as laggy. I used a6400 at that time and want more physical dial for easier control. In the end, bought xt3 (still have this till today).
Yeah it was really bizzare experience as I can live with the epl7 but not em5ii. When I looked it up in the internet, some folks have the same problem as well. I think it's slow booting up problem or something along that line. That used em5ii was hella cheap though, around $300-400 at 3-4years ago
My OM-D EM-5 been my workhorse camera for years and now is retiring-ish as my beater street camera
Ah nice, what's taking its place?
A lot of street cameras aren't weather sealed. If you step up to the EM5 and a lot of the Olympus and Sigma lenses you get a weather safe package. There are affordable lenses in this category as well.
That's good to know, thanks!