Fireside Chat Ep. 156 - When Childish Worldviews Take Over | Fireside Chat
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- An outstanding conversation with Douglas Murray: How the left became so radical-the lack of debate, "anti-racism" training, corporate wokeness, critical race theory, and infantile thinking. Plus, some excellent advice for those afraid to speak their minds. Enjoy!
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0:00 Welcome Douglas Murray
1:41 Where does his courage come from?
5:43 Understanding the value of the left
8:22 Understanding true evil
14:20 When Dennis lived in England
15:56 The Intellectual Left: Where did they come from?
18:15 The lack of debate on the left
19:38 The left’s absurdity: Writing
21:35 The left’s absurdity: Music
24:36 The left’s absurdity: Corporate Wokeness
30:10 Not a real gay?
32:45 Speak out and risk your grade or career?
37:28 Creating racial tension that doesn’t exist
38:50 How the right should respond
41:00 To Have Happiness: Gratitude is key
45:12 To Have Happiness: Understanding true suffering
46:43 How to break down Critical Race Theory
51:07 Always ask: Compared to what?
52:22 Chaos in God-shaped holes
57:50 Thank you for joining this special episode
I was left until Donald Trump was elected. Then the left showed its true colors. I voted 3rd party in that election and didn't like Trump at all. I couldn't believe the vicious attacks against the President Elect, but what really shocked me were the attacks against Trump supporters. People I had known a long time who I used to think we're nice turned vicious. I had never realized how authoritarian the left actually is. Now I know, and I don't like it all, to put it mildly.
WELL SAID
Wow. My exact thoughts and what I did.
Your experiences are similar to what I have observed in the past four years. So true!
Hope you voting Trump this time around! I also did not vote trump last time. Nor did I vote Hillary. Straight republican ticket for me this time.
I feel you there. In 2016, I voted for Republicans, Democrats, and Libertarians depending on their policies and the position they were running for. Now, I feel like the entire DNC needs a big slap in the face. They keep propping up more vicious and radical people and pushing this narrative that everyone else is evil and must be persecuted.
"To my amazement, a vast number of people in the west do not appreciate the west".
Truer words were never spoken.
No , they appreciate the West but only Marxism !
Unfortunately, Karl Marx's writings were a product of western thought. The evil motives behind the conceptual framework he helped design contained the seeds of it's own destruction.
grfdgd gdfgdfgd I’ll go along with part of that, but I’ll have to research your allegation of 100% Eastern origins. Much of Karl Marx’s conceptual framework was derived from Hegel. If he was inspired by eastern philosophy, I’m not aware of it
grfdgd gdfgdfgd Well, i’m no expert. If you are right about eastern origins making impacting western thought whereby the collective is treated as more valuable over the individual and the freedoms it’s based on, I won’t argue with you.
This isn't all that amazing. When anything is the soup you swim in you take it for granted.
I’m a gay dude like Douglas. I‘ve been called homophobic just because I believe differently than the more Left gay community.
@chris andrewes Just because he's elegant and sounds flaunting doesn't mean he didn't have to break a few barriers to get where he is.
@OverLord Opps I hate to admit it, but I kind of do listen to Douglas because because he and I share some common attributes. But it’s just refreshing for me to find someone else who isn’t trapped in what I like to call “the gay mob.”
I’m a Hispanic lesbian and voted Trump, why would I vote for hate, violence and intolerance the other side displays and tries to justify. I live and am grateful to God for being born in America where I am given the same opportunity as others here. I’ve taken those opportunities and worked hard all my life and enjoy the modest fruits of my labor.
@OverLord Opps I know it’s happened!!! I know Dave Rubin’s been called homophobic. Another prominent figure (I heard this from Dave) was told he’s not truly gay because he’s a conservative or at least is a liberal who thinks differently from the mob. It’s a strange thing to tell someone..
@@alexlindstrom555 they continue to attack him. Call him lazy, he didn’t do any research, and is a sell out. All this from the party of tolerance.
Douglas Murray has one of the best minds of our time.
My job has taken me to rich countries, poor countries, developing countries and even war zones. Until you've seen with your own eyes how others live, it's impossible to appreciate how rare and wonderful America is.
So true! The vitriol being shouted about how awful Americans are is based on ignorance!
Back in 1995 my husband and I went to Italy for 2 weeks, we were very grateful to return home with eyes wide open and very aware how much we took for granted and how much our grand parents sacrificed to come to the USA so we could have a better life.
It's amazing for those of us who have spent time abroad, being lectured on the sins and inequities of America, by those who have likely never traveled outside their own birth-state.
Amen. Been there, seen that, got the t-shirt.
Exactly. Traveling is an eye opener. Americans are blessed to live in this country. A country full of opportunities to excell in anything you dream off, the sky is the limit, but it's up to you to take the challenge or not.
“What do you call a happy black person? A Republican.” Brilliant!
@sarahmoore grimke you mean that women that was a democrat until they attacked her ? yeah brilliant honest women, i wish all women were like her. the socialist/communist and most godless people will eat their own and wonder why every 1 will leave. it's just normal people learn from their mistakes and move on with their lives pushing forward just look at china. sorry I'm not American but the communist have had a negative role in our country(trying to merge it with another country, bribing locals to revolt ext) so i keep an eye on their activities where i can and their tactics are similar all over but have improved to go unnoticed in the places where they can achieve the biggest impact from the inside out(like changing a generation through education) like Europe and the US .Be safe.
@sarahmoore grimke Yowsah, honeychile...not to worry, ya next welfare check's on its way
Herman Cain...miss him!
@domhnall777 There are undeniable truths in life without Politics. The Democrats rely on emotions that cause a person to be unhappy therefore vote for them to fix it. The only person who can make your life better is yourself. Government should not be relied on for your happiness.
BLM - Black Life Miserable
I have always liked Douglas but I now like him even more. Sensible and trustworthy.
"They dont know what evil is." True to the core.
@Skylet Bandan so true. Post modernism. But they do also think that anyone not on their woke cult side is actually evil. Cognitive dissonance of those types is off the charts. :-/
@Skylet Bandan yep, indeed.
Not only do they not know what evil is, they do not recognize their own potential to become evil.
@@itechnwrite yes for sure, coz they dont know or dont "believe" in evil, except anyone who disagrees with them. Fcukin morons they are. They need Jordan Peterson!
They know what it is... They see it every day when they look in the mirror...
The fact it’s now racist, evil, bigoted to tell people we should be happy, motivated, grateful, successful.... it’s madness.
who ever said that?
@@MP-ef9yo Do you speak to many leftists? Imply any burden of responsibility and self-ownership on minorities, women, or any other "oppressed victim", and you get the bigot label slapped on you. "Treat everyone with kid gloves and retard their progress, OR ELSE!"
@@llewodcm20 yes I do and listen to them. Not put words in their mouth. None of them ever said its racist to be happy or treat everyone with kid gloves. Please cleans your ears out. They say to treat others with compassion. I don't know why that's so difficult for you or makes you so angry. It costs $0.00 to be a good person.
Good clues to the truth in your statement RN have been in pop music and television dramas. The irritatingly pained expressions of pop 'performers' and actors abound these days. Their tedious output these days is misery guts stuff, too. It's as if they have to convey the impression that they suffer in real life. And yes, you owe them!
Back in the 70s and 80s, we looked for every scrap of entertainment we could find to cheer ourselves up. Light entertainment on television and easy listening songs were the staple fare, in the public square if you will.
And look at those hearings in Washington, where people get a grilling. If you told a joke in that environment, someone is bound to complain vociferously about the offensiveness of the joke. The humour does not outweigh the thunderous feelings.
@Joseph Wilkinson what did i lie about?
Time to put the children in their playpens...and bring the adults back to the table. We need solid leadership
@sarahmoore grimke “whataboutism” Trump isn’t indicative of the greatness of the US or the West as a whole. The only sad thing about Trump is that he’s the only leader still fighting for its values. It deserves a better leader, but the new wave of anti-western sentiment has made it impossible for anyone else to rise up. If you’re unapologetic in your appreciation of its values you’re labeled the worst things possible. This makes Trump the only one capable of standing up for it because he doesn’t give a shit about bogus claims of racism, sexism, homophobia etc. This isn’t the problem of Trump, it’s the left that made him the only one remaining that will stand up for the west’s values.
Own this, realize how screwed we are and make sure people who do defend the western values aren’t unfairly attacked by leftists who share no values with the enlightenment. The right doesn’t do a perfect job of reigning in their extremists, but they sure as hell of a lot better job than the left who can’t defend a light post from bugs if their life depended on it even though they live in the most liberated and free place in all of world history.
@sarahmoore grimke those same people feel galvanized when a white person wins UFC. They were emboldened during Obama as well. Your point is moot, and really just shows how short sighted you are. All of the bogus claims against him have been proven a hoax, and a lot of them were straight up lies.
@sarahmoore grimke Speaking of being confused, I wouldn't talk. The Democrats still have you bamboozled and drinking their Kool-Aid.
@sarahmoore grimke
Experts don’t exist
great arm chair assertion
Please do second fireside chat with Douglas Murray. Delightful!
Douglas Murray is a beautiful, careful champion of a man.
I wish I had Murray's brain, but I'll settle for a steady supply of his video interviews on TH-cam. Thank you, Dennis, for giving Murray a platform. He's brilliant.
yep, he is!
His brain and his accent! ;)
Same!
"GRATITUDE!"....THIS is why I love Douglas! I am a high school teacher in an "urban" district in which the learned helplessness & victim mentality runs rampant. Last week I had my students watch a video about an organization called "Charity Water". It was made by an American young man who went to Liberia as a volunteer photojournalist. He discovered young girls travelling miles to fetch water from dirty ponds for their families - water that has caused disease across the country & trips that do not allow for many to attend school.
I then asked my students to react to the video by specifically think about how this new knowledge affects their attitude about their lives here. Many cited their gratitude for having clean water to drink every day. I am glad, at least, that many were able to reach that feeling of gratitude, at least for just that day.
in the UK they are seeing that a 'White saviour' there is a long tradition of Charity , i.e. Live Aid, Red nose day raising money, sending money to places like Africa, sure you get the typical disingenuous celebrity riding on it's coattails.
But now giving to a charity as a white person that help's black people in Africa is being seen as racist, a superior, a saviour attitude. So all that will end, Foreign investment in Africa, probably racist , helping anyone black probably racist.
Gratitude is a cornerstone of stoic philosophy. I wish the education system would allow the consideration of things like stoic philosophy as this would result in a better society.
Liberia? That's interesting. Created by America 'repatriating' ex-slaves. A disaster.
Introduce your students to Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams.
well done!!!
My grandmother was from Norway when I was young she told me everyday how lucky I was to be born in America. I have never forgotten that I am grateful
"Compared to what?" Excellent. A nephew once said he believed everyone should be equal. I asked what he meant by equal. Crickets...
Douglas Murray - absolute legend of logical sensible reasonable thought and very articulate
Chris.. Petulant child...
Sliver tongued alright
How about a couple of legendary commas in your comment. Your punctuation does not so much need brushing up as exists.
@@Dustshoe he eats punctuation for breakfast
Bank: love happens here
Douglas: just give me my monthly statement.
"But we love your money..."
It's the financial banks piggybacking off an old sperm bank jingle, some PR guy got overzealous about universal branding equality.
Murray is right about banks covering themselves for past scandals, but it's also a cynical marketing ploy. It's common theory in marketing that if you're able to tie your product to an emotion, that will increase sales. So everyone from banks to supermarkets to biscuit companies will blast rainbow flags and 'Love is Love' slogans around for a month because there's a strong percentage of the population who internalise the message, get the emotional response and then buy the product. But if support for gay rights dipped back below 49%, those companies would take those flags and throw them out the back and not even think twice about it.
During my diversity training at work, I asked the pair of HR women if affirmative action had the unintended consequence of causing corporations to choose black women over black men, resulting in hurting the black community by undermining the role of men in their lives. Needless to say, they had no idea what I was asking.
Lol 😆
Thomas Sowell's book "Intellectuals and Society" dives deep into this subject
I felt bad for my youngest daughter, she’s told me she became a teacher because of my love of history. Well she’s on her 2nd yrs of teaching and she has 6-8 grade special Ed, when she was done teaching one day she had to cry, not one of her students had ever heard of 9/11 so she brought in the video of the whole thing happening, she didn’t do any sugar coating, then they had a Q and A on it after, she was completely taken aback from how little they teach in schools as far as history goes. So she’s been trying to teach everything she can each week on any one war, or peace time history of how our nation came to be. She’s been surprised how little they know. I find this completely appalling how our history has been removed from the books. 😢
Your daughter shouldn't give up, she can turn the tide to learn those kids history.
Me myself im a fan of history (world war 1 and 2 i know the most off,my exuse for not knowing much about the American history is because im Dutch) and its important to learn the triumhs and mistakes of our ancestors our were doomed to make the same mistakes.
@@sjoerdderks4731 this why she chose to be a teacher and she has no thoughts of giving up, she’s just teaching them our history a little at a time each week I guess you can say giving them the history bug. lol 😂 she loves teaching, only thing that has made it hard for her and them has been this virus, and the closing of the schools, the good points where every child got a lap top that couldn’t afford one, and the Zoom accounts she was able to continue to teach. She loves it, she’s my one child that has refused to have children but calls her students her children, so I told her yay I get 28-30 new grandchildren each year. lol she told me I was funny. Haha
The public schools push STEM so hard there is t any time for music, art, PE, history, or literature. To be fair, this was pushed really hard by George W Bush. All those kids are getting old enough to vote now. We need to push back and ask for more history and literature. Problem is the way I was taught history and literature in school was really boring; it was all memorization of names, dates and places. I'm always amazed about how culturally illiterate people in general are these days. All they know is TV, pop music, and social media!
Young people not knowing basic world history? How convenient......for somebody.
And how Orwellian.
ive been teaching sped middle school for years. Did she give them quiz or ask them questions about it a few days later?
Did they get the questions right? Its not that its not taught, its that the kids have learning disabilities and struggle with retention
This is one of THE BEST Fireside Chats that have been done. Dennis and Douglas are wonderfully insightful! Well done!
I wish I was a fly on the wall.
I agree. Absolutely superb.
I just made the same comment before I saw yours.....here here....mega dittos
@@michaellamont2605 Let's face it. You _really_ wish you were Otto. lulz
I wish I had a relative like them, would have learned so much at an earlier age
The problem is that personal experience cannot be passed on, hence humankind keeps repeating the same mistakes over and over.
It certainly can, it's called history. Sadly, few are taught it and fewer still heed it. Lots of available wisdom that goes ignored.
@@GambitsEnd You are talking about knowledge. I am, on the other hand, talking about personal experience.
Just what I expect; excellence on every level. Thanks Dennis and Douglas.
Brilliant episode. Thoroughly enjoyed listening to Douglas Murray.
Me Too
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Me too! He talks like Dracula! Throughly entertaining..."Yesssss....You WILL give up your blood...." I can just imagine him saying that....
@@andylagger551 Made me laugh, if no-one else 😆
Gratitude is desperately lacking with most people. Many have never had a big problem to overcome and therefore explode over minor things, their self importance is overwhelming.
Having much older brothers who willingly bullied me for the first 8 years of my life before they moved out made me very courageous...or more correctly, I'm not going to win anyways, so I've always fought to ensure I am heard and felt without regard to whether I can win each battle
Got to admit, kinda jealous of Otto.
Just chilling out, laying next to a fire, listening to a good conversation between decent folk.
Dogs don’t listen, cats do.
@@Hollis_has_questions Cats only hear what they want to hear
@@chadparsons9954 IMO cats hear everything. They choose what to react to, though. And that’s why I love them
@@Hollis_has_questions And they choose to ignore, what they want to ignore... in a rather malicious manner.
@@chadparsons9954 Selective, judgmental. As I am, as we all are. That’s probably my favorite thing about cats. They remind me of me, only more elegant, more in control of themselves.
I live in Australia and thank God every day for what I have. I'm not rich by any means but compared to so many in the world, I'm very fortunate.
If you earned what you have, it’s not luck, jus sayin...
Gratitude is very important
Same here from America. I've worked very hard for what I do have. And I thank god every day for what i have. Goi5d friends, loving family & partial good health!
Really ? Australia sucks !!! Like England, Canada, the US.
"Don't trust anyone over thirty!" verbalized by those who were "radical" leaders, identified as something "cool/popular" to aspire toward, silenced so many elders who were trying to share past experiences; especially those experiences concerning the atrocities of the past, inflicted by Socialists, Marxist, Fascists, Communists, etc. They will always target the children first.
They've done their work so well that I no longer trust anyone under 30.
*dont trust anyone over 30, unless it's one of our many pro israeli rabbi anti White bankers* -leftists
Well let's not forget Hillary Clinton has been after your children for many years
Funny I would say the opposite
Banks fund communism, they funded russian communism in 1917, they funded the German civil war in 1918, and declared war on Germany March 24, 1933.
forward.com/schmooze/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
This is one of my favorite videos of all time. As a college freshman, I am putting this enlightened philosophy to good use.
53:54 "Our society has only God shaped holes. Places where God was, that need filling."
That's a great insight, and perfectly succinct phrasing.
Bravo, Mr. Murray, bravo!
Douglas Murray is wonderful. A much needed mind and voice of reason.
Otto and Douglas Murray.......my evening is complete
mine, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could you hear Otto snoring? (or was it just me?)
The whole COVID response from the Government is treating us like Children that in itself causes me not to want to listen to them. I am old enough and smart enough to look at the data and make my own choices during the fires I knew I couldn't go out because of my asthma I didn't need a nany state telling me to stay inside I weigh the risk and reward.
Yay! You are using your innate right to be a free thinker. If we look at the data from over 70 years of weather modification we can see the results of weather warfare and climate engineering projects such as the engineered fires in California and Louisiana. A free thinking, lucid adult does not need a nanny state if capable of rational discernment as you are. However the “nanny state” does need gullible individuals who predominate, unfortunately.
What a wonderful interview. A particular delight was hearing the dog snoring in the background.
I am humbled by these gentlemen.
Chris... You sound immature and resentful... Focus on your own house...
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I was reading Douglas Murray’s The madness of crowds as TH-cam notified me of this episode of fireside chat. Very well researched and insightful read 👏 Awesome interview 👍
So very needed is the clarity and thoughtfulness of this interview. I love that Dennis was so visibly happy for this gathering of men of meaning and purpose. We need to bottle clarity of mind and have a party.
Douglas Murray is one of the contemporary world's rare elements, a wise man :)
That dog literally looks like he's melted into that little sofa he's lying on.
Yeah, I'm envious!
He must've been too close to the fire ;)
33.00 you can hear him snoring
Looks like his owner
I literally spent the first six minutes & some odd seconds just staring at him. He is, I think, everybody’s goal for the rest of 2020.
I'll watch anything with DOuglas Murray, an absolutely incredible thinker and writer
Two of my favorite thinkers together on this video, beyond exciting ! I've been listening to Dennis Prager since the 90's, and discovered Douglas Murray within the past decade. I appreciate each of their contributions to conservative thought and actively seek out their thoughts on today's political scene. Thank you Dennis Prager for this opportunity to watch the two of you exchange ideas.
Top intellects of our age. This should be assigned to students to analyze
51:08 He hits on one of the questions I always credit Thomas Sowell with (Though they may come from someone else):
1) Compared to what?
2) At what cost?
3) What hard data backs that up?
I add a fourth myself:
4) What hard data contradicts that?
Ask those four things whenever you can.
Maybe also "what problem are you trying to solve?"
@@zeweichen5473 that's what I think is the starting point: define the problem, propose the solution, then evaluate using those questions. Of course, it's often good to verify what "problem" someone's REALLY trying to solve, too!
"Wildly ignorant of history", oh my God, yessssss!
Towards the end was great (the whole thing was excellent) when they talk about the assertion makers as being ignorant and just making things up. This is 100% true. I have encountered this in conversation after conversation, where these people constantly display total ignorance of every subject they pretend to know so much about.
Douglas Murray's "The Madness of Crowds" is a GREAT book. The dog has a book out too: "The Slumber of Hounds". 🤣
😂 Sounds like something my husband would say. Very witty!
We used to be taught in school what a great country we had. This is no longer true, sadly.
No USA. But I'm pretty old. Lol
Because it is no longer great, sadly.
@@phoebehamm7090 but we can make it. I don’t think we should just give up.
Unions?
@@phoebehamm7090 it sure is!
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked, who can know it!" Jeremiah 17:9
amen
An absolutely inspiring conversation - passionate, humane, fair, insightful and balanced. Thank you so much Dennis. And Douglas - You are a star.
Courage is not just about confronting lies. Courage is about taking action, in spite of paralyzing fear and great danger, whether facing tanks in Tiananmen Square, fighting fires aboard the Yorktown at Midway, repulsing Banzai charges on Edson's ridge (Guadalcanal), storming the beaches at Normandy, demonstrating in Hong Kong, or China, or confronting Antifa/BLM thugs in Portland, Chicago, or Seattle. The common denominator is fear, not just lies.
I've been to Manhattan and I've been to California, that is why I have lived in So Dak for 54 yrs.
Please stay there.
@@andybaldman I think the states will be telling those bailing from NY and Cali to stay in the stew they made for themselves. Build a wall around those 2 states and go full John Carpenter.
@@magaranita I love NY and CA. Rich people leaving only means housing and other prices will come down, once there are no rich people to pay high rents. Bring it on.
@@andybaldman I will hope you are right, but someone will have to pay all the taxes that NY and CA has levied on it's citizens. If the rich leave, who will pay? The outlook is not good, but wish you well! One thing, the Red states do not want the Rich Blue folks moving there and voting in their failed policies. Talk about fouling the nest.....
@@magaranita If the rich leave, the same thing will happen as in the states that get more money from the system than they contribute. Everything changes and balances out. Things change, people and systems adjust. (And yes, the blue people will be moving to more red states, and that will affect their politics. See all of the rich Joe Rogans who are leaving CA for TX. For every one you hear about, there are hundreds more you don't.)
Two brilliant intellectuals chatting together. Each time I hear Douglas, I learn something new. Thank you.
What a conversation. Thank you, PragerU!!
Murray and Prager have the ability to say powerful truths succinctly. So invaluable.
Otto asleep by the fire with not a care in the world with his tongue hanging out makes this coversation so much more superior.
This interview is a very huge jewel for our times, loved it from beginning to end, I will certainly watch it again, thank you.
Thank you for having this guest. I've never heard of him before and the wisdom he shows in this discussion is absolutely incredible.
I've been listening to Douglas Murray alot recently. So wonderful to see him with Dennis here. Quite synchronistic.
I lived in London for 40 years from 1974 to 2014 I met people who fled so called communist/socialist countries if only a huge group of them if still alive would travel around and tell people what it was really like also Iranians who escaped Iran after 1979 but the left im sure wouldnt listen.
The way things are going i dont want to be in this world much longer. I am 70 my Father is 98 when he is gone I hope I quickly follow.
I've read "The Strange Death of Europe." A must read.
I was thinking of King Lear when they were talking about gratitude, because he noted "How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child."
Imagine it is important to God too
It should be a university requirement that American students must live overseas and serve the community they live. This will open the minds of Americans to see the greatness of America
Can't pick Europe either.
This is a very liberal and progressive idea. I'm glad to see you suggest it.
It would also be good to have rural students in America live in American cities, and vice versa. It's a shame how many people in this country have never really left their states, particularly in the center of the country.
The greatness of America past tense.Unfortunately no longer. I am a kiwi living in Australia. I would rather live in either country in preference to the once great us of a
But one thing that cannot be disputed is the greatness of Douglas Murray. He is so lucid he makes me feel very inferior.
I wish people were more persuaded by logic than emotion.. but sadly most humans can’t be.
Agree
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A system could be devised where most voters relied on logic, but your rulers will not permit it.
That’s not true. There’s one generation they really got. They got them from birth till 30s. Live with mom and dad till 30 stay on their ins until 26...get out on your own! That’s why you hate yourself...you have no goals..just hate.
@chris andrewes for conversation’s sake, why do most masters and doctoral grads lean heavily to the left?
This was perhaps THE most refreshing long form discussion I’ve ever heard. Thank you.
"It's hard to know what to do with ignorance like this, especially when it is taught" - in a nutshell.
He's getting quite buff is our Douglas... I've read The Madness of crowds twice since it was released last year. I then bought the paper back on its updated release in September and gifted it to a friend. Got to spread the word of reason
I always look forward to the fireside chat every week. It's a gem that more people should know about.
Agreed, though sometimes boring for repetitive discussion on same points.
I would love to see Prager reachout to G.Edward Griffin and get his thoughts on the matters of today which Griffin himself predicted 50 years ago and has written many books on the slow socialist shift into communism.
Always love listening to a conversation with Douglas Murray. What I absolutely LOVE though, is hearing the dog snoring at around 31.00
These guys need to do audiobooks for every book ever written
"Always say 'compared to what'"
I loved that part because I regularly use that as my initial reply to a leftists assertion about how horrible something or someone is.
The left compares things they don't like to perfection so those things are guaranteed to fail the comparison.
No they compare everything to the impossible. The only standard is whether they get what they want in the moment, but even if they do there is no possibility of gratitude because that would give power to the giver, unless the giver is someone who took it from someone else in exchange for their vote - in that case, some acknowledgement is in order. So the source of everything they get must be criminal as well, otherwise their own criminality gets exposed or contrasted for what it is.
That bit about economic thinking not filling the void is something Andrew Klavan also talks about.
The right’s biggest mistake was to turn conservatism into a godless economic philosophy. Morality does, in fact, matter.
Two giants of philosophy; a true joy to hear their wisdom.👍
I WAS SO BAFFLED. I couldn't figure out what that mating walrus sound was. I'm working alone in a really creepy old house. Paused this twice. Then it occurred to me it must be the dog snoring, sure enough 😆😆
Man, douglas is on fire lately
Look at Otto🐥💙🐦🙃He's almost upside down.😆What a doll.💕
Star of the video.
That adorable pooch snores so musically.
Douglas Murray: "You can't read mumbo jumbo for very long".
Thomas Pynchon: "Hold my beer".
"compared to what?" Straight out of Thomas Sowell's vernacular!!! Love it!!
Douglas Murray reminds me so much of William Buckley, with his thoughtful ideas and truly intellectual font of knowledge. Wonderful show! Lots to think about and some books to read.
William Buckley was i f***ing racist. James Baldwin won the debate against Buckley
Murray is very well spoken, extremely logical and attractive. His ideas are even more! I appreciate the conversation about courage, picking your battles, offering alternative *equivalent* values and the God shaped hole that isn't properly filled by politics
I frequently encounter young people who yearn for a simpler time like 100 years ago. I try to give them a dose of reality that streets were full of horse manure, women spent much of their lives scrubbing clothes and starching shirts, and perishables were kept cold by blocks of ice delivered by the ice man pulled on a cart by a mule
Now that's one of the few conversations I've found both fulfilling and yet insufficient in appeasing my appetite for more!
Ablotuletly brilliant. Thank you for this really insightful and enjoyable "fireside chat" . The discussion/Q & A distils some of the major issues of our generation into comprehensible language .This is one of the best interviews generally that I have listened to/watched. If we can all dial it up just one notch we can win this battle.
Thank you Dennis and thank you Douglas p.s. Enjoyed Otto as well!
11:52 - “It’s hard to know what to do with ignorance like this particularly when it’s taught.” - Douglas Murray
I'm bingeing on DM this weekend. Can't get enough, he's the tonic we all need.
"Cool. Another PragerU Fireside chat!"
*Sees Murray in the thumbnail......Loses mind from sheer excitement*
Ditto. I got distracted for a minute.
The excellence of sound and wise conversation. Soo enjoyable! Thank you, Prager U!
The "father and son of conservative wisdom" ..loved this fireside chat!
I will say it again:
We as conservatives must quote the ideas of the past Americans of African descent civil right leaders which had conservative ideas which are more closely with conservatives then leftist. Also teach the true history of the turn coat Democratic party. Because we don’t do this makes us look ridiculous, let us win with the truth.
51:10. Thomas Sowell proposed three questions for the left.
The first of which is "compared to what".
I increasingly think he was 50 years ahead of the rest of us, and had countered, destroyed and eviscerated most leftist ideas long before most leftists were born.
Mitch McConnell marched for civil rights with Martin Luther King Jr. There are many good conservatives who ought to be quoted
There is Absolute Good and Relative Good. Relative Good is only good for 1 side and bad for the other. Everyone think's what is good for themselves is Absolute Good but it's usually Relative Good. Absolute Good is good for the most number of everyone.
You can illustrate this by using MS Excel. Have 2 Columns and 2 Rows.
Column 1 is Name, Column 2 is Value
Row 1, Column 1 is Person 1 = $50
Row 1, Column 2 is Person 2 = $50
Total is 2 people and $100
If Person 1 trades/buys/gives Person 2 $20,
the Person 1 has $30 and Person 2 has $70. The total is $100 or 100%. That is relativity, like Einstein said.
Instead if Person 1 and Person 2 discovered $20 each, Person 1 has $70, Person 2 has $70, Total is $140. But the total will still be 100% in Absolute terms but increase 40% to 140% in Relative terms.
You could call Person 1 Capitalist and Person 2 Communist or USA and China or Capitalist 1 and Capitalist 2, Conservative or Labral, Police or Criminal, or whatever label you want or hate. But the algorithm still holds regardless of label or ideology. Absolute Good is being resourceful and smart about things, out of the box thinking. Relative is limited mindset, zero sum game, in the box thinking.
Excellent interview! I just wish that more people could listen to these kind of conversations, reflect on these ideas, and be grateful for minds that can sort out the truth from the fuzzy mentality we are enduring these days. Thank you Mr.D. P. , keep up the great work you do.
Love ❤️ him!!! I only wish I was as eloquent when I go up against people who don’t think and vote the way I do
Dennis: “And here’s Otto.”
Otto: 😝
Two of the greatest minds of our time. Just excellent. One of the best YT videos ever.
Oh Roger Scruton, I do miss him. He really picked the leftists apart in Fools, Frauds and Firebrands.
When I was 5 years old I wondered at my great good fortune at being born in America in the late 20th century. In Lincoln's words, the last best hope of man in earth.
Brilliant - Douglas is an international treasure to the west!!
He is a British national treasure thank you. The West may rest assured there are still few hearts of Oak.
I forgot about Otto until he started sawing logs about 30 mins in.
Another great Douglas Murray interview. I might try releasing four minutes of silence for my next track, will save me a lot of time composing and recording 😄
7:00 "Western civilization is something like the color that paint is until you add
color" - Douglas Murray
God shaped hole / vacuum: coined by Augustine in Confessions:
"Nos fecisti ad te et inquietum est cor nostrum donec requiescat in te."
“Thou hast made us for Thyself, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee.”
and parroted by Blaise Pascal in Pensees:
“There is a God shaped vacuum in the heart of every man which cannot be filled by any created thing, but only by God, the Creator, made known through Jesus”
and popularised by CS Lewis quoting Pascal in The Problem of Pain:
Your soul has a curious shape because it is a hollow made to fit a particular swelling in the infinite contours of the divine substance, or a key to unlock one of the doors in the house with many mansions.
And all three are brilliantly worded for any and all to understand. Oh how I wish we had more men like these today.
When I heard him say that, I thought, “This man is definitely my brother in Christ.” Angilican Ordinariate? Latin Rite Catholic? High Church Anglican?
@@Nunc_et_Semper He was an Anglican (probably fairly high church) but is now an atheist. He could best be described as a cultural Christian.
There have been hundreds of gods in the course of human history, none of which have been proved to exist. Keep religion separate from politics!