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- Witness - the BMW ZBF 7er! All the smooth luxury is there, but this is no ordinary 7 series. With its hand-cut tyres, specially crafted body and cameras for wing-mirrors, this BMW concept goes beyond ordinary sophistication. Want to find out more? Let Joji Nagashima, BMW exterior design expert, tell you the whole story.
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First time that I’m seeing this guy interviewed. I have tremendous respect for him, as he designed the E39 and the E90!!
And E37 z3
Big shout-out, thanks for designing such a reliable car like the e39
Damn, crazy to see that even in the mid 90's there was technology being developed that we today still consider new or high-tech for cars. Really love these videos.
Most of new technology is old, but wrapt in new design,
Most of the technology that we have to our cars now (2021 MY) maybe is about 10 years old
@@BestMotorWerks indeed, for example electronics companies produces too much displays, procesors, camera' and then sells them to brands like renault, toyota very cheap because they are outdate and need to be sold, and for car manufacters no matter they know the competition are gonna have same components, i was shoked how poor is the display in toyota auris 2015 , and MMi console is very slow.
BMW is still using INPA. A DOS/WIN NT based diagnostic software that you can still use :D and don't get me started on other brands. Mercedes used their pink Windows95 diagnostic tools for waaaay too long before the 1st somewhat better diagnostic SW came out. Some brands still used DOS diagnostic tools after 2000. Not to mention the programming of the cars. If you remember Windows Mobile or WinCE computers then those are on par with most of the car hardware manufacturers use even nowadays. Some manufacturers go even lower and you could place them among a 486 and a 386 computer. All the fancyness is in the frontend layout you are using with the buttons and touch screens etc. And not only cars. ATM machines were running on Windows XP for decades. Some even on WinCE. Imagine your personal account being connected with your card on a touch screen PC with WinCE 5.0 on it in the year of lets say 2016. Btw hi tech medical equipment still runs on WinCE. It is easy to create programs for but mostly because WinCE simply cannot BSOD. You'd have to really mess up programming to shut donw a working WinCE system. Those could run for weeks and even months without the need for a restart.
Most manufacturers (regardles the product) are developing things today that are going to be on sale after a few years and not sooner. That way you can allow your product more time to be developed properly and you can modify your development based on customer feedback from whatever you released previously. It would be a death trap to force yourself into developing things on the fly in realtime - meaning to sell whatever you currently got coocking as it would be too much of a risk if you could'nt hit the spot on the market and your products would'nt sell so well... or at all. Bankrupcy in a heartbeat.
So much for a company's "Staying ahead" motto :) they are not staying ahead but they are keeping their customers behind to buy themselves time :)
Yes. I didn’t know it was the same for car technology as well. I was very surprised to find out that the F35 Lightning II started development in the 1980s. Still seems like it is filled with a lot of new technology however.
Would love to have seen the back of it!
how the fuck did they manage that... Didn't even TRY to get a shot of the back!
@@asdf12347109 These videos for some reason go out of their way to hide certain details and I imagine it’s mentioned off camera for very specific reasons.
I believe it would have shown a design language for 2023 7 series
4:30 Looks like the trunk/boot is not fully closed. Maybe this is the reason that they didn’t show the rear of the car because of a problem with the trunk.
I guess because the car never existed in '95...
The back isn't even finished.
Wow, I thought they were looking at a concept car for the CURRENT 7-series, but this car was made in the 90’s 😱 It looks so timeless. What’s crazy is that there are a lot of design cues that are updated and being used in current BMW’s, such as the oversized grille and the headlight design. I’m not a fan of the current grille design, but the oversized grille on this car looks quite nice.
lol no
@@alpha-cf2oi Ok beta
Im a little upset they didn't show the rear end of the car.
Why didn't you show the back of this car throughout the movie?
How does the rear side looks?
How could they make a video about this car and not even show the rear? Concepts are not shown every day, and when you take the time to take it out, invite a designer, film and edit a video, that is a real shame.
The top of the bootlid looks like from e65, along with the bangler butt. But there is no direct visuality
It feels like they purposely didn’t show it. It was definitely not filmed for some reason…
@@Johnnygga according to someone else in the comments, it was done intentionally since they may use the rear of the car as the design template for the newer 7er
theres some shady Japanese business going on
Where is the rear view?
wow you did 7 minute long video about particular car and never show its rear end. Impressive.
Judging by the front, it was probably to prevent the designer from losing face.
Hang on, you spoke to this man for 7 minutes and never mentioned what made him a Design God, the E39. !!
and E36, and E90
Cries in E46 noises
?? Thought E30-E46 and in parts E65/66 was designed by Claus Luthe..?
@@oumaniac Hmmm, that's why the E36 interior looks slightly Japanese. The arrangement of the air vents (one vent to the left and one center vent to the right of the steering wheel on the driver's side and two air vents together on the passenger side) is clearly a Japanese element. The Integra DC5, the S2000, the Insight MK1 and MK2 and the Supra A80, they all have this arrangement!
@@oumaniac He didn’t design the E36, it was designed before he arrived in November 1988.
The oversized kidney grill concept had already started back then 😬
It started with the 303, in 1933. So, nothing new.
@@nunofosilva Bullshit. The 303 had elegant, rounded grilles. Not the square shit they put on the M4. And even this car has the proper vertical slats that the modern cars don't have
@@ThaMythbuster no one talked about elegance. The subject it's oversized kidney grill. I don't hate it to be honest. Not great, not terrible.
@@nunofosilva all cars back then had massive grills because cars had massive radiators...it wasn’t design language
I'm pretty sure they are showing this car now because the all new 7 will have a huge ugly grille too and by showing this people hopefully hate it less when they see it has some history.
I love how they haven't talked about elephant in the room which is front grill
This is probably why it didn't go into production!
@@TheLeo328 and yet they put that grill into production now.
It's a message that doesn't need mentioning when it's right there for everyone to see. I think they wanted to show this if the next 7 will have a similar grille, so then there is a connection to this concept car when it's revealed.
@@TheLeo328 they have been using large grilles since the very beginning - just look at the grille of a 1933 BMW 303 and get over it
It's kinda good touch on this prototype. I like it very much, but not on current gen.
Love this channel! 👌🏼 If possible can we get a video on the E60 M5 CSL prototype which had a DCT?
Man after my own heart, was literally going to type this exact comment lol. BTW it's @blackbmwlife aka guy with the Eventuri V10 carbon plenum prototype...need to meet up soon bro 👊🙏
Correct, I have the CF plenum from Manhart with the complete SS exhaust on my e61!
Did anyone have seen the E60 M5 with the DCT ever driven? Greetings from instagram.com/henrygeorge_m5
Oké no probleem i will make iT
big ups to hamza
Rear view would have been nice to see, and some sketches.
Such an awesome video. Bmw at its finest. This guy is a legend, he designed the bmw e39 5 series. God bless from South Africa.
This should have been longer I could watch this all day
That guy designed my E90 😍 Thanks 🙏
This design would have been a lot better than the E65. It’s a great evolution from the E38.
Eww no with that hideous grill , e65 was nice only the headlight seemed weird , which they fixed in the face lifted e66
It's the E65 in crude
E65 innovation let BMW outsell Mercedes for 1st time in history, why do you think its designer is current design chief?
Amazing car, please show us more details of these cars, like the rear and more interior details. I know because the cars are prototypes and may not be 100%, we still want to see please. The visitors and presenters are great but the cars are the stars, let us see the car details while the presenters are speaking. Danke.
I agree, but it’s deliberate omission. They have dictated what they don’t want you to see off-camera. Same thing with ICE concept.
Τhe door handles !,the cameras in the mirrors! wow It's scary if you think this car was 30 years ahead of it time!
This is not novel, as numerous concepts or design studies used cameras in this manner. I don’t know why people are so easily impressed by what was commonplace on non-production vehicles . Name me a production vehicle from 1996 to 2017 with cameras as side view mirrors, then I’ll be impressed.
Nagashima designed the E39 generation of the 5 Series. For that he is one of my heroes.
Очень очень, очень понравилось! Особенно вид сзади, у данного автомобиля он просто божественный! Специально поставил на паузу и долго-долго любовался! Спасибо оператору за прекрасную работу!
The idea of cameras as mirrors wasn't totally new though. Gemballa for example had his Porsche Avalanche in the 80's with cameras as mirrors. That was even more crazy back then
Great video once again! As previously said, it would be amazing if we get more in-depth videos on these concepts, technologies. Too interesting!
I keep coming back to this video because this 7 Series Concept is so magnificent. THIS should have been introduced in 2002. LOVE the smoothe sides, the tall greenhouse and the long grille.
It would be great if this fellow could sit down and talk indepth about the e39. Even if in his native tongue with subtitles would be really swell.
Looks like we found the inspiration for the new grilles
bud, they've been using large grilles from the very beginning. look at a 1933 BMW 303 and get over it
Ok Hitler, relax. Still looks ugly even after almost 100 years later.
Die Videos sind echt gut gemacht. Aber ich persönlich würde es viel besser finden, wenn man mehr über die Gedanken brim designen spricht. Warum iDrive? Warum die Niere? Warum so ein Armaturenbrett?
Wen interessiert schon dieses seitliche Design-Element? Das kenne wir ja auch vom Z8 aus der selben Zeit.
Ich hätte das Konzept Auto mal gerne von hinten gesehen... und am coolsten wäre halt auch mal die Zündung zu aktivieren damit man mal die Beleuchtung sieh. Ich kann mir vorstellen das da auch nen paar crazy Sachen zum vorschein kommen. Schade.
Das hätten die zwei nicht geschafft. Die kämpfen beide echt hart mit der englischen Sprache... Hätten beide in ihrer Muttersrache geredet und im Cut wäre eine Übersetzung drübergelegt worden - dieses Gespräch wäre pures Gold.
Sehr viel verschenktes Potenzial, meiner Meinung nach. Schade.
@@martinw.2692Das Stimpt ! Muttersprache mit untertiteln fur die Beide wird viel besser .
@@GamersSide4you Das Heck ist wahrscheinlich nicht fertig gemacht worden...
Ich frage mich sogar ob dieses Auto hier überhaupt damals in den 90er existierte...
Bestimmt wurde es vor kurzem hergestellt damit sie was fürs Marketing haben für die heutigen riesigen Nieren... 😅
@@Kev27RS :D Das mit dem Heck kann natürlich sein. Vlt. ist da eine Design Idee die beim nächsten 7er nächstes Jahr gezeigt wird^^ Die Riesennieren sind ja schon längst ausm Sack
This legend should be the head of Design at BMW group
Amazing he foresaw the idea of cameras vs. side mirrors 👏
Not that amazing. The idea of cameras by then was already old thanks to the Japanese.
@@nessuno5403 not true. The digital camera was invented by Germany in the 1920’s and only later sold the copyright to Japan in the late 80’s. That’s common knowledge but anyway I was talking about mirror cameras in cars.
Almost everyone used cameras as mirrors on concept vehicles during the past 3 decades. It wasn’t even novel to use on a design study in 1996.
Implementation on production vehicles is the real game changer and Nagashima had no say in that anyway, as he wasn’t design director nor R&D director.
It's crazy how a car from the 90s had cameras instead of mirrors and now they're only just becoming known and used by various manufacturers.
So the Bangle butt wasn't actually designed by Bangle? Why no rear view?
Bangle was just signing it. A passed away italian designer who is originally designed the e60, just finished the drawings and some time later he died in last quarter of 2000. The design team was so sad, and they just don't want to change the design. So the e60 born, chris bangle was the chief actually
@@MokokoMokoko Davide Arcangeli. The whole car was designed as of December 2000, when he died. It paralleled release of the E39 LCI, as typically that is when the next generation design is completed.
gorgeous concept. Sure grill is oversized, but looks so elegant and futuristic for 1996 ,maybe even too advanced
Has nothing to do with 1996, other than when it was created. Even if this was approved for production, it would’ve been the E65 anyway, which it was in the end.
Bangle and Nagashima were overruled by executive personnel regarding this grille, when the final design was completed in 1998 for 2002 7er. This was the original design study for E65.
@@jmin8400 yes ,and it is obvious this is e65 inside ,out, but find this car very advance for 1996. I remember in 2001 when e65 was presented, even it was weird looking outside, all car magazines and people was amazed how futuristic interior is even for that year.
@@divanosoba9658 I can agree with that. I today drive a G12 M760i and it didn't match the extreme effect the E65 had on the industry 2 decades ago.
However remember that the Z9 concept in September 1999 did reveal it somewhat to the public, while ZBF was kept behind closed doors.
This car is absolutely stunning. The mix of old and new design elements have been chosen perfectly! The old lights the new grille with the old bonnet lines .. amazing! The interior e60 elements with modern tones and then the 90s e36 style cluster. I never thought I’d see a retro modern car pulled off but you’ve done it guys. Very well done
Apparently it's dated from 1995! So it's probably not a mix of old and new, but rather an incredibly advanced and futuristic concept car.
Mr. Nakagima is a pure genius, he had the talent to use technology and design that is still up to date absolutely brilliant. Even the huge kidney front grill was already used, decades in front of those days.
Nagashima is a very talented man, but you seem to be ignorant of what his responsibilities actually were for this project…
Interesting video, but exteremely annoying background music. Why have background music during an interview?
This is crazy. BMW was ahead of their time in many different areas.
what a beautiful design! it would be good to see the rear end of the car.
Thanks for showing us the back of the car. We really appreciate you.
😂
I think the rear never got finished...
What about the boot and tail lights?
@BMW Group Classic - love these videos but they are too short! Would love to have a more through look at the cars that very few will ever get to see in real life... much less experience them
As an E39 owner, can I ask for Nagashima-san's autograph?
BMW Uma das minhas Marcas Favoritas.
and what about the back of the car?
So cool! Love these videos. Excellent BMW legacy
BMW allways ahead! ❤️
Thank you very much Mr. Nagashima for designing the Z3 Roadster. I loved it from the first moment and I will keep mine in good order.
What an influential design
How to like it twice!? More design history videos please!!!
Why one half of the grill is rounded at the center line while the other one is straight?
So this is where does extremely huge kidneys came from? 😜
...großartig - der Beitrag, dieser Mann und auch das Auto
Does anybody has a picture of the rear?
I have the same question
Why there is no picture of the back?!
Does the side glass windows cover the b pillars? It looks fantastic. It's a shame I haven't seen that implemented in production cars.
Glass covered B-pillars are expensive.
Grill is still not good, but much better than today...
The only so called “shot of the back” 1:12~1:14
Big grille yet they still know ithe grille is the centre of the bmw core design feature . The number plate correctly fitted makeing all the difference . This bmw shows what is lacking at bmw today .
I just wanted to know witch models this designer had drawn but i didn t ear the answer in this video
VÍDEO! The best desing history future BMW Series 7 and E38! Love you Joji Nagashima!
Good video, the music playing over the talking is annoying though.
Wow awesome ! Thank You
you guys deserve 10m subs and a tv show
Нафиг этих корейских дизайнеров!!)))
I would love to have one...
THE one...
Does anyone know of any other interviews with Joji Nagashima? I want to know more about his projects at BMW.
This is so awesome. Especially with this concept design providing to everybody claiming BMW merely following the trend today with the large kidney grill, that this was in deed looked at many decades before.
Pity we couldn't see the back...
Please come back with many more concepts.
I wish they produced this 7 series, even for a limited run. And I actually like the Bangle designs and the E65. But it would've been great if this concept preceded the E65, it looks like a natural evolution of the E39 era (same designer as in the video)
2:02 It's quite interesting to see almost a mix of E36 bonnet and extended E39 grilles and lights put together. :)
It all makes sense, Germany, Japan, Italy were in the same side in the war 😬 remember Bruno Sacco and his run with Mercedes
The video is over 7 minutes long... they don't show the rear end at all! 😱
Восхитительный концепт!
B моя любимая марка автомобилей, - BMW!
We need more in depth videos of these cars, the functions, interior etc.
so crazy how nostalgic this particular 7 series is⚡️
Look at the beautiful grill and the today’s resemblance of it
This is a beautiful design - the newer designs are so bad, I even thought I liked the new 7-series until I saw one in person...can they please go back to classical designs like this? Fans of the brand are begging for it
This version of car was added in platform of Fantom RR. The same chasse, long base, engine, etc.
I miss my E39.
Bitte ein Video über den BMW Turbo von 1972! Toller 7er übrigens!Bitte mehr davon!Gruss aus Melbourne.
Very cool car, way ahead of its time. Thanks for sharing it.
Wär schön, wenn's das auch auf Deutsch geben würde.... Seid's ja immerhin a deutsche Marke....
They didn't discuss the grill???
Интересный дизайн.
4:30 Looks like the trunk/boot is not fully closed. Maybe this is the reason that they didn’t show the rear of the car because of a problem with the trunk.
The reason they never showed the trunk is because it is a pecie that neve fully went into production yet. The concept drawing is a fast back design which this one is. That designed was canned and the bangle buts were used instead in 2002. Thus the rear end might still be used in future productions. Also most of the conepts of the BMW z9 were later introduced throught the 2000s.
Almost looks like they used this as a concept for their Rolls-Royce.
7 minutes and they didn’t even show the rear!
Sehr schöne Beiträge, doch leider ist mein Englisch nicht so gut , daß ich alles verstehen kann. Warum gibt es diesen Kanal nicht in deutsch, es handelt sich ja auch um ein deutschen Unternehmen?
MAKE THESE VIDEOS LONGER PLEASEEEEEEEE!!!!!
aha now i see that new bmw big calendar was long time ago in archive 😅
The designer of the e39!!
Wait what year was that made? I see 2004 745 vibes
Классный канал, для настоящих фанатов марки
Kommt ein Video auf Deutsch? Für eine deutsche Marke eig. Nicht zu viel verlangt.
Abgesehen vom neuen m4 Grill, echt ein cooles Teil für die Zeit!
Can you interview him on the designs of the E36 E39 and E90? Joji Nagashima was the best car designer for BMW. These cars definitely have some Japanese influence seeing how the later cars followed the style trend of the E36.
Didn't design E36, it was another person.
Now we know that the "new" rabbit teeth grille design isn't all that new after all. It's a old concept design used on that car from the 90's used on the newer BMW cars of today to fit the new styling they have.
The on the right looks like the new 2series (2021)🤔 also gives me Z8 vibes
Way ahead of its time.. even surpasses todays standards 💯
almost makes me wanna get a bangal era 7 series just to tame my desire for this one
The Designer seemed like a lovely guy, but that car fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down along with whatever else that other "thing" was beside it. The E65 Seven was hands down the worst looking Seven series so far,but the huge front grille trend on the new one is catching up fast. Nothing will ever touch the E32 & E38 Seven series as being the best looking of them all.