I just opened mine, read the instructions, and thought, "Someone has to have made a video that will be MUCH better than the instructions." Thanks for doing just that. I'll give it a try now that I see how its done.
You did this video with a knock-off of the original Timberline Chain Sharpener. The actual Timberline is higher quality and can sharpen a chain to be extremely sharp and uniform on both sides. One does not have to reset the device to sharpen both sides of the chain. You can just move the carbide back and forth through the corresponding port for each new tooth. This device allow you to sharpen a chain (depending on length) in about 10-12 minutes. The Timberline company provides technical support and sells a full range of extra parts for different size chains. It is a highly valuable tool for chain sharpening.
I looked up a lot of information from others as well as the information that came with the thing. The more I think about the sharpener the more short comings it has. John
Hi mate it's a Timberline copy, I paid $240 for the real USA made one 10 years ago when they came out, the carbide burrs were ground and different sizes were available and no cheaper than $30 ea, used it and loved it but the bushings wear out. The china copies are not nearly as good and accurate. I now just use hand filing on a bench.
You bought a Chinese knockoff. The Timberline video I watched had the guy sharpening both sides of the chain without having to set the device back up. He rotated the handle clockwise for both teeth as I think it does not matter.
Thanks for sharing your experience, nothing better than seeing a item actually being used for genuine appraisal not just some fake or paid review. Keep up the great vids John, I love watching you and Pat you are both fairdinkum .
Thanks for watching! I have used that sharpener a couple of times since the video and although it has a couple of things I don't like the chain does come up sharp. John
Best chain saw sharpener Ive found but only if its a Timberline made in the USA not the cheap nock off"s from china they made them look the same beware
I did know about the Timberline and that it had a good reputation. I wondered about the chinese knock-offs and saw such widely different reviews that I thought I would have a look. John
For me it has always been speed out in the field. We used to have an electric one that plugged into the battery on the truck. It sharpened well but the BURRS wore out fast and it was useless. They should have sent 100 burrs along with the tool. Now I just use a file. Jim
'Not the worst piece of crap I've ever used' 😂😂😂 Thanks for reviewing the product. The ad was new to me. As a new user at age 60-something, it takes me Forever to sharpen a chain. Not sure this would speed me up.
Been sharpening my chainsaws since I was a lad as my Grand Father taught me, now at 50 years old, I had considered buying this product simply because their boast was a uniformly sharpened chain in 3 minutes, watching your take on it, 3 minutes is a stretch, I believe. I'll stick with my ole file in the field, as 40 years of practice has me fairly proficient, and we either take several into the local machine shop, or use our electric sharpener at the shop on occasion, and just keep several chains on hand and swap em out in the bush when needed...great demo mate, thank you much.
I think that sums it up. I think they work but at the end of the day I don't think it will replace the file and a machine to get things back to even now and again. If you had no experience and you could work out how to use it maybe. John
As a "backyarder", I occasionally collect firewood in the bush, using my trusty Stihl 034 AV Super. I sharpen it using one of those Stihl file & guide kits, ( which you probably have ). As a novice it seems to work fairly well for me, It may not be as accurate as a proper machine shop sharpener, but I have no complaints, it does the trick for me. cheers.
Yes they are fine. Because I have this channel I try most new things that come along and report on my findings. As long as they don't cost an arm and a leg. I figure if I am wondering about something, other like minded viewers are as well. Thanks for watching and commenting. John
I think most people interested in chainsaws have seen them. I like the concept that the chain has a stop and the grind length stays the same. Sadly because you have to re-set the devise up when you change sides one side is not necessarily the same as the other. John
Good vid John. I have the electric type on a stand up at head height when i'm standing, so I don't have to bend over. works well for me. I got 1 of these saws after your review. It's not a bad saw but as sharp as the chain is they don't cut as fast as I would like. I think the 3.25 chain cutting tooth is a bit small. I prefer the 3/8 They remove more each cut. However I have a few different size saws. This 1 does the intermediate general cutting. Good review. Reguards Dave
Thanks for your input Dave. The saw I have found has been reliable and reasonably light and a good size smaller saw. The Perla Barb 70 cc saw has heaps more guts but is a bigger saw and heavier. John
I bought one and the chain cuts to one side. Thought it was operator error and tried a dozen times but the chain always cut to one side and finally gave up.
why don't they make these thing's simple to use.i got one you put the blade in and run the saw.that it done.i don't think you are getting all my comment's .don't know why.hope you are both well.stay safe. gary.
I have a 12 volt sharpener with a little round grindstone and it works ok every now and then I need to even up the chain in a machine. Same as with a file. John
I am not surprised the basic concept is good and apparently you can buy a good quality one made in the US these are a cheap knock off. Mine is still going. They should have different ones for different size chain. John
Push down while tightening the tool onto the bar, one of the biggest mistakes when sharpening these things is cutting into the cutting surface too high, you need to cut downwards a small amount while cutting into the surface and turn the handle so it cuts the lower point first, exiting the cutting tooth at the top of the tooth, opposite to the direction you chose for most of the video, then check the guides are not too high.
Thanks for your insight on this sharpener. I have finally figured out how to round file, and after all the new ways to sharpen a chain, I think the round file is the go-to, in my opinion. Hey you take care and God bless!!
@@brandonblankenship5293 No I have not used it only a few times until I realised its faults. Nowadays I use a file for several sharpening s then I put the chain on a machine that trues it all up. Then the file in between. John
You're awesome John. I plagiarized your expression, greatest invention since boot laces recently. Twice! Criminal intent... lol My Dad's electric chain saw sharpener broke. I go in box, it's half a file. Blox! I borrowed my neighbor's file. There are different thicknesses for teeth! I'm suspicious of China all way round. The Stihl has a good sharpener. Cutting wood is like pouring concrete. should be fun. But not for some when it's a HAVE TO for heat. Your friend0brian
We don't cut wood for heat much only for about a month in winter but we use wood to cook and heat our hot water. Even that amount can get to be a bit of a chore at times especially like at the moment when we have had about 7 days of fine weather since January the 1st I don't mind getting it when its fine but I hate it when its wet. We could change over to some other sort of fuel and get rid of the wood stove like 99% of people but I can't see that happening. John
@@farminglifeaustralia6716 hmm, sounds like Vietnam there. rain shower. I call Vietnam here the pissing rain more like mist in the fall. *globe. Latitude 47 Norther Hemisphere.
Great video I've contemplated buying that sharpener thankyou for such a thorough concise review and explanation of it's use, Great job John and good news for me i bit the bullet and bought the 70 cc perlabarb today chillin out havin a few vb's watching your videos ,life's good even when it's shit my dear old Dad told me life is what you make it's somewhat hard when I feel my only trusting friend is my old cat This old school Aussie is not dead yet although we are a dying breed thamks for being you a nice genuine old school fella hard to find these days All the best , Take care mate 🤠
Thanks for taking the time to show this sharpener in action. Always wondered about these. Good points and bad to this unit. Uniformity is the greatest point. Chinese carbide is the worst point and does wear quickly which means cost in continually replacing these. I'm wondering if using the jig for uniformity and using a regular chainsaw file to actually do the sharpening?? Bushing may wear quick though if not hardened. Lot's of potential here with this unit, but needs further "tweaking". Thanks Again...Very helpful.
The idea has potential and could be good if it was made for a certain size chain and not a one size fits all. Like a lot of Chinese knock offs not enough attention to detail. I am using a file with a guide and every now and then put the chains on a proper grinder. This seems about the best for me. John
Sharpening saw blades is one of those things I just hate doing. Local shop doesn't charge me much so I have them sharpen it. Do any of the trees grow straight in Australia? They all seem knobby.
I just opened mine, read the instructions, and thought, "Someone has to have made a video that will be MUCH better than the instructions." Thanks for doing just that. I'll give it a try now that I see how its done.
You can make it work but it needs a lot of improving. John
You did this video with a knock-off of the original Timberline Chain Sharpener. The actual Timberline is higher quality and can sharpen a chain to be extremely sharp and uniform on both sides. One does not have to reset the device to sharpen both sides of the chain. You can just move the carbide back and forth through the corresponding port for each new tooth. This device allow you to sharpen a chain (depending on length) in about 10-12 minutes. The Timberline company provides technical support and sells a full range of extra parts for different size chains. It is a highly valuable tool for chain sharpening.
This is a cheap Chinese knock off. John
Timberline is great but the Chinese knockoffs that cost $30 are total fakes. Timberline costs about $100 and are worth every cent.
Timberline I think is in a totally different category compared to the Chinese knock offs. John
I purchased one of these devices, the instructions are shit ! You seam to have much more complete instructions than I do.
I looked up a lot of information from others as well as the information that came with the thing. The more I think about the sharpener the more short comings it has. John
Hi mate it's a Timberline copy, I paid $240 for the real USA made one 10 years ago when they came out, the carbide burrs were ground and different sizes were available and no cheaper than $30 ea, used it and loved it but the bushings wear out. The china copies are not nearly as good and accurate. I now just use hand filing on a bench.
I have had a few people in the comments say that the Timberline product is vastly superior compared to the Chinese ones. John
Before I bought mine (little different) I didn't find any reviews. Now they show up every day. 😂 I didn't like it, too complicated.
I don't like mine much either. John
You bought a Chinese knockoff. The Timberline video I watched had the guy sharpening both sides of the chain without having to set the device back up. He rotated the handle clockwise for both teeth as I think it does not matter.
Yes the timberline sharpener is where the chinese got the idea from I would guess. John
You can tell by the fine shavings that it's not sharp at all. It cuts even but very dull.
The Chinese sharpeners have a few problems. John
Thanks for sharing your experience, nothing better than seeing a item actually being used for genuine appraisal not just some fake or paid review.
Keep up the great vids John, I love watching you and Pat you are both fairdinkum .
Thanks for watching! I have used that sharpener a couple of times since the video and although it has a couple of things I don't like the chain does come up sharp. John
Best chain saw sharpener Ive found but only if its a Timberline made in the USA not the cheap nock off"s from china they made them look the same beware
I did know about the Timberline and that it had a good reputation. I wondered about the chinese knock-offs and saw such widely different reviews that I thought I would have a look. John
For me it has always been speed out in the field. We used to have an electric one that plugged into the battery on the truck. It sharpened well but the BURRS wore out fast and it was useless. They should have sent 100 burrs along with the tool. Now I just use a file. Jim
I had one of those battery ones and found the same thing. I use a file out in the paddock and true the chain up on a machine when they need it. John
'Not the worst piece of crap I've ever used' 😂😂😂 Thanks for reviewing the product. The ad was new to me. As a new user at age 60-something, it takes me Forever to sharpen a chain. Not sure this would speed me up.
Unfortunately its a one size fits all deal and that often means it does everything sort of, but nothing properly. John
Been sharpening my chainsaws since I was a lad as my Grand Father taught me, now at 50 years old, I had considered buying this product simply because their boast was a uniformly sharpened chain in 3 minutes, watching your take on it, 3 minutes is a stretch, I believe. I'll stick with my ole file in the field, as 40 years of practice has me fairly proficient, and we either take several into the local machine shop, or use our electric sharpener at the shop on occasion, and just keep several chains on hand and swap em out in the bush when needed...great demo mate, thank you much.
I think that sums it up. I think they work but at the end of the day I don't think it will replace the file and a machine to get things back to even now and again. If you had no experience and you could work out how to use it maybe. John
As a "backyarder", I occasionally collect firewood in the bush, using my trusty Stihl 034 AV Super. I sharpen it using one of those Stihl file & guide kits, ( which you probably have ). As a novice it seems to work fairly well for me, It may not be as accurate as a proper machine shop sharpener, but I have no complaints, it does the trick for me. cheers.
Yes they are fine. Because I have this channel I try most new things that come along and report on my findings. As long as they don't cost an arm and a leg. I figure if I am wondering about something, other like minded viewers are as well. Thanks for watching and commenting. John
G’day John, I’ve always wondered about this sharpening unit, myself. Thanks for actually sharing your thoughts and experience with us.
I think most people interested in chainsaws have seen them. I like the concept that the chain has a stop and the grind length stays the same. Sadly because you have to re-set the devise up when you change sides one side is not necessarily the same as the other. John
Good on ya
Thanks for watching. John
Good vid John. I have the electric type on a stand up at head height when i'm standing, so I don't have to bend over. works well for me. I got 1 of these saws after your review. It's not a bad saw but as sharp as the chain is they don't cut as fast as I would like. I think the 3.25 chain cutting tooth is a bit small. I prefer the 3/8 They remove more each cut. However I have a few different size saws. This 1 does the intermediate general cutting. Good review. Reguards Dave
Thanks for your input Dave. The saw I have found has been reliable and reasonably light and a good size smaller saw. The Perla Barb 70 cc saw has heaps more guts but is a bigger saw and heavier. John
Cheers
I wondered about these too!
I think I’ll just stick with a file for now though.
I would It did work but not that easy to set up. John
I bought one and the chain cuts to one side. Thought it was operator error and tried a dozen times but the chain always cut to one side and finally gave up.
You have to readjust from one angle to the other because different width bars change the geometry of the cutting angles.😊
Yes and thats one of its problems design flaws. John
Just a Timberline knock off. Just found your channel. Thank you for your help on this sharpener. Take care
Yes and not a good knock off. John
I would have filed the rakers a bit more. That was slinging dust.
Yes you are right. John
why don't they make these thing's simple to use.i got one you put the blade in and run the saw.that it done.i don't think you are getting all my comment's .don't know why.hope you are both well.stay safe. gary.
Thanks Gary. I think you may be right about the comments. Anyway I got this one. Hope you are safe and well. John
Couldn't you cut a propper file to size and cut a notch for the set screw
I think there are a few things other than you have mentioned that are a bit of a problem. John
I use a 12 volt chain sharpener. Works a treat even my 18 year old son can use it.
I have a 12 volt sharpener with a little round grindstone and it works ok every now and then I need to even up the chain in a machine. Same as with a file. John
Junk to much slop no matter how you adjust it don't waste your money
Yeah there is a lot of things wrong with them. I need to do an update now I have tried it a few times. John
Electric saws have not hit the market here very rare.
i don't think they're carbide but rather diamond impregnated.
I am not sure. John
Mine failed. The chain teeth wouldn't clear the body.. Great video all the same👍
I am not surprised the basic concept is good and apparently you can buy a good quality one made in the US these are a cheap knock off. Mine is still going. They should have different ones for different size chain. John
You do not have to set up for other side don’t no what you done but mine does both sides without moving it
Thanks for that I have tried several times. I wonder weather the chain size is an issue. I will check it out. John
Push down while tightening the tool onto the bar, one of the biggest mistakes when sharpening these things is cutting into the cutting surface too high, you need to cut downwards a small amount while cutting into the surface and turn the handle so it cuts the lower point first, exiting the cutting tooth at the top of the tooth, opposite to the direction you chose for most of the video, then check the guides are not too high.
Ok I will have a look at that. So far it seems to sharpen the saw really sharp. John
Thank you for the down under video presentation. Forest, MS USA.
Thanks for watching. John
Only one angle. Doesn't cater for hardwood.
No it has a few problems. John
I use the sharpener after I have used à normal file 3 or 4 times. That works well. Thanks Pat.
I will give that a go. John
Thanks for your insight on this sharpener. I have finally figured out how to round file, and after all the new ways to sharpen a chain, I think the round file is the go-to, in my opinion. Hey you take care and God bless!!
The old file is hard to beat. Thanks for watching and commenting. John
Has your final review come out on this product yet. Love your videos.
Not yet still mucking around with it. John
Haha you are so funny
Sometimes not in a good way. John
I just purchased one and they rubbish
I am about to do a video on what I think after having a good think about it. John
Very good video
Thanks and thanks for watching. John
Have you used it much? If so, has it worked or do you prefer using something else?
@@brandonblankenship5293 No I have not used it only a few times until I realised its faults. Nowadays I use a file for several sharpening s then I put the chain on a machine that trues it all up. Then the file in between. John
@@farminglifeaustralia6716 thanks
I kinda like that wire job I never saw it done that way.
Its pretty common around here. John
Bit of a pain but it works.
It works but in the long run I don't think its a good thing. John
Thanks good explanation.
Thanks for watching. John
You're awesome John. I plagiarized your expression, greatest invention since boot laces recently. Twice! Criminal intent... lol My Dad's electric chain saw sharpener broke. I go in box, it's half a file. Blox! I borrowed my neighbor's file. There are different thicknesses for teeth! I'm suspicious of China all way round. The Stihl has a good sharpener. Cutting wood is like pouring concrete. should be fun. But not for some when it's a HAVE TO for heat. Your friend0brian
We don't cut wood for heat much only for about a month in winter but we use wood to cook and heat our hot water. Even that amount can get to be a bit of a chore at times especially like at the moment when we have had about 7 days of fine weather since January the 1st I don't mind getting it when its fine but I hate it when its wet. We could change over to some other sort of fuel and get rid of the wood stove like 99% of people but I can't see that happening. John
@@farminglifeaustralia6716 hmm, sounds like Vietnam there. rain shower. I call Vietnam here the pissing rain more like mist in the fall. *globe. Latitude 47 Norther Hemisphere.
@@ClickinChicken Pat just added up the rain for JAN and FEB 35 inches. We are 18.5 south LAT. John
@@farminglifeaustralia6716 Jesus! We get Summer, maybe two or three occasions , with 3+".
@@ClickinChicken Usually we average between 40 to 50 inches a year. John
Great video I've contemplated buying that sharpener thankyou for such a thorough concise review and explanation of it's use, Great job John and good news for me i bit the bullet and bought the 70 cc perlabarb today chillin out havin a few vb's watching your videos ,life's good even when it's shit my dear old Dad told me life is what you make it's somewhat hard when I feel my only trusting friend is my old cat This old school Aussie is not dead yet although we are a dying breed thamks for being you a nice genuine old school fella hard to find these days All the best , Take care mate 🤠
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Thanks for that. Australia is not what it was. But some of us are. John
loved the video mate.
Thanks a ton! John
Thanks for taking the time to show this sharpener in action. Always wondered about these. Good points and bad to this unit. Uniformity is the greatest point. Chinese carbide is the worst point and does wear quickly which means cost in continually replacing these. I'm wondering if using the jig for uniformity and using a regular chainsaw file to actually do the sharpening?? Bushing may wear quick though if not hardened. Lot's of potential here with this unit, but needs further "tweaking". Thanks Again...Very helpful.
The idea has potential and could be good if it was made for a certain size chain and not a one size fits all. Like a lot of Chinese knock offs not enough attention to detail. I am using a file with a guide and every now and then put the chains on a proper grinder. This seems about the best for me. John
Sharpening saw blades is one of those things I just hate doing. Local shop doesn't charge me much so I have them sharpen it.
Do any of the trees grow straight in Australia? They all seem knobby.
For us getting someone to sharpen our saws is not really an option. Yes we do have some strait trees but as you said a lot of crooked ones. John