Therapist Reacts to THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION
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How do you keep moving forward when you feel stuck? Why is hope sometimes dangerous?
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright react to one of the best movies of all time, The Shawshank Redemption. They talk about how hope can be both dangerous and powerful as they follow Andy’s hope-filled journey in the prison system. They discuss institutionalization in prison and how people can be institutionalized in their own mental prisons. Jonathan emphasizes the importances of growth and testing your comfort zone. Alan hates narration but explains why it works in this movie… spoiler alert: Morgan Freeman.
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Brooks' storyline broke my heart. He's been imprisoned for so long, that he's unable to adjust to the outside world, and the pressure eventually consumes him. Jake, his crow, is in the same position, as Brooks domesticated him for his entire life.
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I watched this movie way too young and story never leaves my mind. So powerful. But I also made see movie can say more than just action action action that as a kid was all I watched
@@tesstucker3311 Greetings, Tess, this is the second day in a row we've happened to bump into each other! 😂 🥔
I was always under the impression that Jake was a metaphorical representation of Brooks.
I think about Brooks a lot whenever the topic of prison reform comes up. Heartbreaking.
Alan, for what it's worth, you may never make that studio movie. What you have done is create a TH-cam channel with your best friend that has touched our hearts. Your growth from where you were, and the lessons both of you talk about has definitely reached millions and done more good in this world than most movies could ever hope to accomplish.
My thought exacly.
Such a sweet comment ❤ I love their dynamic and friendship , you can tell its authentic!
I am in therapy now because of this channel. I hope these two understand that what they have created has immeasurable value.
This is profoundly true. It’s lovely that you would say this.
Please don’t make sexual jokes or advances or swear God wouldn’t like that and there are children here May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent. GOD IS ALPHA AND OMEGA!!! THE BEGINNING AND THE END!!! GOD SENT HIS SON DOWN TO DIE ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS. PLEASE GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM!!! PRAY AND REPENT AND GOD IS COMING!!!!!! THERE IS NO TIME. FELLOW CHRISTIANS GOD WILL BE COMING DON’T LOSE FAITH!!! PLEASE!! PRAY FOR STRENGTH AND DON’T DOUBT HIM!!!
Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
Romans 10:10 “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
2 Peter 3:1-18 “1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth
righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.”
concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth
righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. GOD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HY SPIRIT IS ALPHA AND OMEGA!!
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.” GOD, JESUS CHRIST, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ALPHA AND OMEGA
The majority of the narration in this film is word-for-word from King's novel. Let's not forget who actually wrote this while extolling the writing virtues of Darabont.
I came here for this comment. The movie is fantastic but it wouldn’t be here without Stephen Kings Novella.
Thank you, I wrote the same just now❤❤
Was also in middle of adding a similar comment
I didn't realize since I read it in spanish, this is best comment for best movie, thanks!
Darabont is a great screenwriter, though. From Shawshank to The Green Mile to the Mist, no one adapts Stephen King as well as Frank Darabont does.
A lot of people at the time hated this movie because they didn't want a movie that talked about prison being horrible. They didn't want a movie that humanized convicts. They liked to exist in a world where the justice system gave you what you deserved.
The only difference between this movie and reality is that in the movie, what the warden and his underlings do is illegal. Today, this kind of abuse is legalized for the profit of the prisons' private owners. That's a reality that more people should examine.
It goes back to Keystone Cops. They got mad at how idiotic they looked. So they told Hollywood that if they want to use any general likeness to their department they had to hire someone to be an “advisor “.
And copoganda was born.
This issue reminds me a lot of when the book All Quiet on the Western Front was first released. Many, many, many people hated it, because it takes place during World War One, and made the Germans into sympathetic people who struggled in the trenches just as much as the Allies did.
@@anjelica948 It was a German book. It turns out that life in the trenches was kinda the same for everyone. There's a reason the one-two punch of WWI and II broke the collective spirit of an entire generation.
I always thought that King's novel, "Eyes of the Dragon" would make for a great film adaptation -- maybe even an animated film.
@@kh884488 Honestly, didn't really like Eyes of the Dragon all that much. It was too straight up fairy tale and not enough of the stuff King does really well.
All the talk about hope reminds me of the floating lantern scene in tangled when rapunzel asks "what if it's not everything I dreamed it would be?" Flynn: it will be." Rapunzel: "and what if it is? What then?" "Well, that's the good part I guess. You get to find new ones." Good episode as always
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Glad I wasn't the only one that remembered that scene :)
I feel like all i comment about recently is Princess Bride, but... Princess Bride. "I have been in the revenge business for so long, now that it's over I don't know what to do with the rest of my life". "Have you ever considered piracy?"
@@JaneXemylixa There are two types of people
@@JaneXemylixa Well nothing can ever top that little piece of life advice...
“You must never give into despair. Allow yourself to slip down that road and you surrender to your lowest instincts. In the darkest times hope is something you give yourself.” -Uncle Iroh
...that is the meaning of inner strength. -Uncle Iroh 😊
Love Uncle Iroh
Always strive to be the person Uncle Iroh would be proud of.
“Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul, and sings the tune without the words, and never stops at all.” -Emily Dickinson
Beautiful, sapphic poetry, right there
Thank-you. I love her poetry.
I remember hearing that quote from Subnautica Below Zero.
I think the reason the narration works so well in this movie is because this story was never Andy's story. Its was Red's story. Its the story about how Andy saved Red's life. And in order for it to work you needed to hear Red tell the story.
Thank you for doing this. I almost cried when I saw the title. This is my favorite movie of all times.
Shawshank Redemption is that one movie you just gotta watch people react to
Oh, for sure. Andy is like RP McMurphy or Ferris Bueller. He exists to inspire and transform the main character.
It’s not from this movie, but my favorite quote about hope is,
“In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself. That is the meaning of inner strength.”
Uncle Iroh?
@@pg2826 Sounds like him.
What is that quote from?
It is indeed an Uncle Iroh quote. Season 2, Episode 5: ”Avatar Day”.
@@ddilly9825 Avatar Last Air Bender. Iroh says it.
This conversation made me remember when a classmate made a presentation that shook me about another great movie, The Truman Show, and she said her favorite thing about it was quote: "It didn't matter how much the people who pulled the strings of his life tried to control him, they could not deprive him of his indentity, of his humanity."
My favorite parts in this movie are every time that Andy gets something in his favor
Like when his abuser stopped harassing him after he fought, or when he got the beers for everyone else, or he became the one who administrate the incomes and increased them… and finally, when he got his freedom
But I love how he always planned to escape, it was his goal all this time, he was never in a cell, he was a freeman, in mind, heart and soul
Even when he could be set free because he was innocent and they kill his only way to prove it, he shows how he didn’t needed them, he didn’t need the privilege of the Institution, they needed him, because he was gonna be free with their help or without it
I love him so much! Such a powerful character ✨
Another fantastic video! I’m a music therapist working in acute psych. Every Friday we put on a movie for the patients. I’ve started “previewing” the movies with your videos. Thank you for all you do!
That sounds an amazing work, and using the channel as a tool, probably enhance the movie experience for the patients! 💜
That's so cool. Thanks for sharing and watching!
Love this!😊❤️
I am sure that folks find it to be a valuable window into the outside world, even for a moment
As a ptsd patient- NICE! “Ashes” Celine Dion -also Deadpool and Ironman 2 for ptsd pts internal reflection.
This one hit hard. Institutionalized in the mind. I left a 10 year abusive relationship where I attempted suicide 3 times. Rediscovering who I am and who I was before is such a challenge.
You absolute legend. I cannot imagine how difficult that was to do. Your journey may not be easy, but I'm so glad it's still going. ❤️🩹🧡💛💚💙
@@eclectic_nerd ❤ Thank you very much!!! Big e-hug 🌼
You have HOPE and you've moved forward. You have grown.💐
Congratulations, that is unmatched strength. I’m so proud of you. I was in something similar and it was like relearning how to breathe.
@@westzed23 Yes. :) I feel like hope and love are the two greatest gifts a person can give themselves. 🦋
I re-watched this recently with my husband who's never seen it before (the barbarian 😂) - he was so jaded by modern 'gritty, realistic' plots that he was utterly convinced that Red wouldn't make it in the end. Such a wonderful and yes, HOPEFUL ending ❤ Thank you for helping us revisit once more internet dads 🥰
I also never seen this movie and my wife recommended it to me; I saw Green Mile before watching Shawshank, so i got prepared for a depressing ending, but when the cell was empty and they discovered the hole in the wall my jaw dropped. The smile he gave when he asked for his package to be mailed, or when the warden realized what happened and saw the "Judgement will come" verse in the wall, with the judgement directed towards him. So good!
This was me!! I knew about this movie for decades but never actually watched it (I was afraid it would be devastating like the Green Mile) and I was so happy that this movie has a happy ending! And it was totally worth it and earned for all the characters, so refreshing for my soul after being invested in those characters a lot. I was cheering outloud when I saw how Andy escaped.
Back in the early nineties, when this movie came out, movies having happy endings had been the norm for a long time. It was only some years later that it became more accepted that movies could end sad or bad for the main characters.
Please don’t make sexual jokes or advances or swear God wouldn’t like that and there are children here May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent. GOD IS ALPHA AND OMEGA!!! THE BEGINNING AND THE END!!! GOD SENT HIS SON DOWN TO DIE ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS. PLEASE GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM!!! PRAY AND REPENT AND GOD IS COMING!!!!!! THERE IS NO TIME. FELLOW CHRISTIANS GOD WILL BE COMING DON’T LOSE FAITH!!! PLEASE!! PRAY FOR STRENGTH AND DON’T DOUBT HIM!!!
Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
Romans 10:10 “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
2 Peter 3:1-18 “1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth
righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.”
concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth
righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. GOD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HY SPIRIT IS ALPHA AND OMEGA!!
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.” GOD, JESUS CHRIST, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ALPHA AND OMEGA
Hope is a beautiful thing
Thank you for opening with that scene of Andy and Hadley on the roof! For some reason, it triggered me to think of something that had never occurred to me before in the dozens if not hundreds of times I’ve watched this film. The reason Andy’s opening question is “Do you trust your wife?” is because, if Andy were in Hadley’s position, and he gave his wife the $35K, she would have taken it and run away with her golf pro. I don’t know why I never thought of that before.
Also, thanks for closing with Red’s ending speech on hope. Those are my favorite final lines in cinema (closely followed by “Well, nobody’s perfect!”).
"some like it hot".... That was the best joke about in the whole movie!
Well that's exactly why Andy asked if he trusts his wife, although he should not have opened with that line and obviously Hadley was outaged at the question, lol
Andy is very calculating with his words
Yup so true! Andy’s wife was a terrible wife and she would have run off with the money!
As far as "hope will kill you," there is a certain comfort in hopelessness. You feel like no one can hurt you anymore, you have nothing that can be lost or taken from you.
I think putting too much hope or faith in other people or things beyond your control is where you can get hurt. But I don’t see not doing that as hopelessness, I see it as putting your hope in the right places, like yourself or your faith.
That kinda feels like coming to Jonathan's point the long way round. Not letting people get inside your head - that's how you stay free, even if your body is in chains.
@@lacyLor indeed
@@tbotalpha8133 but having hope overall is a good thing
Hope can be dangerous, hopelessness can be dangerous. What hope is, is value-neutral. It can be used for evil-if you convince people to hope for something that’s harmful to another group of people, for instance. Or if you get someone hoping for something that is just plainly impossible, which is just cruelty in the guise of optimism. The dark side of hope is delusion. Sometimes a little hopelessness is a good thing-it can motivate people to actually change things in meaningful ways.
That is, I think both the extremes of hoping against hope and wallowing in hopelessness are just two different versions of avoidant behavior that indulges in an imagined scenario in lieu of doing the difficult thing and confronting whatever the issue is head-on.
Healthy hope has a touch of cynicism in it, I think-a recognition of the reality of failure, but with the courage to press forward regardless.
This is why I say LOTR literally saved me, if I hadn't been exposed to it and fell in love with in at such a very early age, idk if I would have been able to overcome the mountains of my life. The other thing for me is, it's that battle between "All good things must come to an end" and "No good thing ever dies".
Not immediately, but certainly by the third time I watched this movie, I saw it as Red's story more than Andy's. The "redemption" in the title is Red being able to let go of the things holding him back. Andy was an inspiration, but Andy never lost his hope, his thing he was holding on to. Red was freed when he let go. He redeemed himself.
My great aunt was never one for movies, my dad and I love Shawshank and we were watching it in her kitchen one day and it just kept drawing her attention. She couldn’t believe how much she enjoyed it. It’s a classic for a reason.
I can't say how excited I am for this. I LOVE Stephen King. This is one of his best stories written. The movie is well done.
May be they will cover The Green Mile too. I have copies of the movies, but will always watch it, whenever it is on TV also :) Stephen King is an amazing author.
People always seem surprised to find out Shawshank & Green Mile were written by Stephen King. He’s been my favorite author for 45 years 😁
@@triciadenson49 I'm not much of a reader, and only have associated Stephen King with his horror thrillers, so this was a big surprise to me XD
Agreed! I've always felt that King writes dialogue better than most authors. It always seems to be real, like how people really talk to one another.
@@triciadenson49I've been a fan of his horror books since 7th grade and nobody let me know he also made shawshank? Gotta add that to the reading list now 😅
We will support this channel no matter what. Keep up the good work.
Agreed
Thanks so much! 😊
I spent 4 years in prison, I didn't watch this movie until after. You are right, you either grow or regress, I've seen people find God, get in shape, become educated. Then some people the give up, find drugs, get bitter, become better criminals. Beautiful movie, one of my favorites
The argument could be made that the redemption is not actually Andy's character, but Red. Andy is the voice of hope, and Red spent so long resigned to the fact that hope is gone. But Andy keeps showing him a little glimmer here and there of what life means and how to appreciate it. This movie gets me every time, so emotionally powerful.
heartfelt agree
I always loved the scene where he commandeers the pa system. Even the guards are appreciating the music because it's just as bleak for them as it is the prisoners.
In high school, we watched the interview of a black man who was freed after about 40somethin years. He was living on the streets of New York, homeless. He talked about how scary and different the world was after being imprisoned for so long. It was just a heartbreaking story. This movie does a threat job of demonstrating how broken our justice system is and how erroneous the prison system is
I remember when I was little my father adapted Red's words in the last hearing scene to make me understand the contradiction of putting in jail for forty years someone, who immediately regretted his crime, without giving him a chance to really redeem himself.
Years later I saw this scene and understood. And the most amazing thing was that it took no value away from either my father's or Red's words.
I started my journey training in sailing back in 2020 and it's hard to deny that a part of the inspiration came from hearing Andy's dream of "buying a worthless boat and fix it up new". 💜
“Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms-to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning.
"What if you tie your worth to your growth" Yes! I needed to hear that today. Thanks for the cathartic morning tears. Ps. It's one of my fav books too, Jon
Thank you so much, Patrons! This is indeed one of the greatest movies ever made and it has been a treat watching Jono and Alan react to it. Hope IS a beautiful thing, and growth and moving forward is such an important and powerful message to share. Bravo, gentlemen. Bravo.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
The narration within this movie is great as you both mention. But you have to give credit where credit is due, I feel this is done so well because the original novella written by Stephen King is phenomenal. A lot of the narration, dialogue, and the majority of the plot comes directly from King’s genius. This is not to say that the movie didn’t have a great interpretation or didn’t even improve in some pieces, but I feel the narration fits so well here because King’s 1st person storytelling within the short story was so good.
I encourage lovers of this film to check out the original short story if they haven’t! It is slightly different and more morbid than the movie, but it’s definitely worth a read.
Thanks for this comment ❤
I don't own a copy of this movie, but if I ever see it on cable TV I will almost always stop and watch it. It's such a good movie.
Sometimes this channel hits all the right buttons at the exact right time. Today in therapy, I was talking about how I've spent years of my life hoping and people pleasing, trying to get the positive and supportive attention of the parent who abandoned their children to basically move next door and become somebody else's step parent. And we talked about the growth, of the real me emerging, every time I called this parent out on the bull and demanded better. On the growth that came, when I finally gave up 15 years ago and accepted a life without this person would be better than a life with them in it. The people pleasing continued, it had moved on to employers whom didn't value me. That was an epiphany of mental health growth. I now tell off bad employers in the mature voice of an angry 12 year old girl!
And when I came home today, I watched the series finale of Ted Lasso. And then this episode, published on this day. Quite a day...
Hope is a fickle friend. Doesn't always lead you in the right direction, but it sticks with you to the end.
Okay I’m gonna go curl up in cry now. I am currently fighting my ppl pleasing and passivity. thank you so much for sharing 🫶🏽
No words can express how much I resonated with this 😭 Thank you so much for sharing 💕💕💕
So many times I find one of your videos at exactly the right time. Thank you, you really helped me.
I love Shawshank, one of my all time favourites.
And there's hope for the world if there's people like you in it.
bravo, don't take no disrespect from any customers. Just because the customer is right doesn't mean they can treat the staff like crap
I really needed this message today. I've had a really hard time job hunting since graduating from college and it really felt like I put all that effort in for nothing. So thank you for reminding me there are other things out there still worth it.
You got this! Thanks for watching!
I've been there before after I lost my first job. I'm rooting for you. Hope you find a job that works for you.
Thanks so much!!
Okay listen. I don’t know you, I don’t know your story or your job history, but I’m focusing all of my attention and intention on you getting a job. My guess is next Thursday, but I also have a very active imagination…the point is, it WILL happen, you WILL be way overqualified, but eventually someone will notice that and you’ll either get bumped up to a higher position or poached by another competing business, but YOU CAN do this. And you will. I know that, because with so many of us willing it so, someone is bound to give you a shot! Keep an open heart and an open mind, you’ve totally got this!! And remember, hope is…the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul. Morgan Freeman may be memorable for the lines he speaks, but Emily Dickinson is IMMORTAL for the words she wrote!
Hey, been there in the same boat, and let me tell you: it gets better. You can get through this.
ROCKY, Shawshank Redemption and The Good Will Hunting. My favourite stand alone movies of all times. Thank you and Bless you all the team of cinema therapy.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
This made me realise I'm pretty much institutionalised in my own house - it was my parents before they died. Its been 9 years since mum died (11 for dad) and I've still left 90% of the house as it was because I just can't move past them not being here any more. The wallpaper and carpets are the same, all their furniture and ornaments are still here and on display. Today was the first day I've managed to go through some of the things, I've cleared two drawers of papers, a lot of which were sympathy cards for me regarding them, and a huge pile of birthday cards mum had kept, including some I'd sent her going back 20 years when I was 18 (that hurt to find). I managed to throw them all away.
Tomorrow will be the third drawer and then the cupboards underneath it. Bits at a time.
Hey just wanted to say, any progress is a step forward, and enough steps and you'll get to the finish line.
It might help if you think of it as, if they were still here, things would have changed, they wouldn't of kept absolutely everything anyway. Its hard to let go of how things used to be when you miss the people who were around, but the most important things that you have to keep from them are the memories. The rest of it without the memories makes it just stuff.
Congratulations on finding the strength to move forward. It will grow. Thank you for sharing. 🌸
That glance of “Brooks was here” absolutely wrecked me.
I watched this movie for the first time in college when my dad was serving a sentence in federal prison. He used to write me letters about hope and many of the themes that are in this movie. I bawled through the entire movie. I even tear up now as I type this and he’s been out for over 10 years. I’m very moved by this movie and also you guys’ commentary. Such a great episode!
Please do an episode on meet the Robinsons, it’s painfully underrated, and it’s characters are pretty well written for an early 2000s 3d Disney movie, love your work btw!
Such a beautiful movie with a great message at the end.
@@carlus05 I thoroughly agree
“I’m never going to invent you.”
Yes! Such a great movie!
You know I've never seen that movie. I'll have to check it out.
I was literally just thinking about "Hope they will do an episode about Shawshank and making the best out of any situation" and then I see this! Perfect timing. Thank you!
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@CinemaTherapyShow For sure! Amazing work and excellent points! :D
Morgan Freeman, his acting and his narration is simply perfect. The music is an underrated part of this film as well, it's fantastic.
My grandfather made one stupid choice when my mom was little, and he has now been in prison for nearly 40 years, denied parole 4 times so far. He has turned his life around in there, the family affected by his poor choices having forgiven him and even spoken on his behalf at parole hearings. He’s working on finishing his bachelor’s in computer science and even gives motivational speeches to other inmates regularly… but every time I watch this movie I’m terrified by the thought: is my granddad an Andy, or is he a Brooks? I believe he’s and Andy, but this movie still hits home every time I watch it.
Institutionalization, the way you guys explain it, reminds me of escapism. Like in online gaming, for example, when someone spends hours being "the best, the baddest, the strongest" but in real life they're stuck in a black hole.
I don't know if it's right to say I needed this, since this is practically just a description of what I've been going through, but it is definitely something someone needs to hear in this million people who watch you.
I'm young, in my 20s, and pretty damn lucky for a lot of things.
This year has objectively been the worst year of my life.
I lost my grandpa suddenly when he fell one day and didn't get up this month last year. My mom fell into deep depression as did my grandma. My mom has lost multiple friends this past year or two, one through suicide, and more through cancer and other health complications. I'm still dependent on my family for a lot of things, and they're also going through the ringer. My parents have separated, gotten back together and had some of their worst fights in their entire marriage. And probably the hardest of all for me has been that I'm basically alone through all this.
I've been with the greatest woman I've ever met for the past two years, long distance and planning to close the distance around my birthday last year, when her toxic and emotionally abusive family stopped her from moving out by making her cut off all communication she had with me, and making it impossible for me to help her. She's been distant and isolated from all her closest friends and there's nothing we can do about it, because we don't know if we may be putting her in more danger trying to help since we called the police and they were convinced that nothing was wrong or that it was actually us that were the problem.
She was the heart of our friend group, the type to know everyone's birthdays and celebrate every single one with everyone, she was my emotional support and I was hers, and it's been around 10 months since we were abruptly separated.
The main thing that keeps me going is trying to be there for my family, what's left of it at least, and hope that if I can pull myself together and be more independent, that I might have some chance of seeing her again, seeing her smile again. Even if I have no guarantee of things working out that way, it's all I got.
She loved watching you guys with me, so who knows, maybe she'll see this and smile a bit.
Best of luck to you from France !
@@vivianejenoc Thank you, best of luck back to you from the US. ^-^
I’m sending you some much needed hugs.💗❤️💙💚💛💜🧡
@@monicacall7532 Thank you.
I hope you will see her someday!
Alan, I hope you know that you were the one that really showed me the incredible power that filmmaking has to do good in the world. It’s because of you I was able to stop lying to myself and start pursuing my dreams of being an filmmaker again.
16:40 - Don’t forget that that whole moment begins with the Warden knocking on the door and telling Andy through the window to turn off the music, which Andy reacts to by slowly leaning forward and reaching for the controls, then a sly grin creeps across his face as he stares down the warden and turns the volume up. Just like that little kid doing what their parent tells them not to do.
Oh Jeeze a GALAXY QUEST REFERENCE?! How have we not done THAT movie?!
I think a specific look at prison psychology (how people get there, how they deal with being there, how they recover once they leave) would make for an interesting topic that we kinda skirted around in this video. Although maybe that would be a more specific therapeutic skill-set that Jonathan isn't experienced in, I don't know.
I agree. I liked how they talked about institutional mindset being parallel to other things but I’d like to hear about the psychology of actually being institutionalized and incarcerated. Maybe with a guest who specializes more in that. Maybe how we could psychologically create a more redemptive system vs a punitive system which I think this film would’ve been perfect to discuss.
TH-cam needs more of you guys and more of this kind of content. I love that I can laugh with you guys, cry, and overall leave these videos feeling like I’ve learned something and just better overall. Thank you for this.
You're so kind. Thanks for watching!
This film holds a special place in my heart. My Grandpa played this movie every Christmas from the time I was 6 until he died when I was 12. Granted, my grandpa didn’t have a huge amount of experience in what was and wasn’t ok for a child to watch, but this movie brings back a lot of good memories nonetheless.
@@gracehaven5459 can’t argue with you there. I had a strange childhood.
Steven King one described himself as the Big Mac and fries of literature. But when he decides to serve up something different, it can be so fulfilling. This movie and the Green Mile are masterpieces based on his masterpieces.
“Get busy living or get busy dying”! One of my favourite films.
This may have been one of the most important episodes for me. I hoped in a certain outcome through the pandemic days and it didn't happen the way I planned it in my head. After that it's been hard to hope or believe in a better future. But if I believe in bettering myself through the life I'm living, I think I can hope again. Made me teary eyed thinking about it. So thank you.
Oh, my gosh. This was my grandpa’s favorite movie before he passed, and subsequently one of my favorites now too. Thanks for the content, can’t wait to show my family this one!
How did Alan not cry this time? This movie is both supremely heartbreaking and awesomely inspiring. Both make me cry every time I watch it.
Did *not* expect this one to hit so hard. When Johnno talked about being institutionalized in an abusive relationship… I am a whole-ass board-certified physician, and I was *convinced* I’d never survive without my abusive POS husband.😞 Love you guys and love the work you’re doing ❤️
i havent seen this movie in a while , but it hits close to home. my husband is incarcerated with about 5 yrs left to go. and the stories he could tell about folks... the young hot heads , the old lifers . a lot of folks , especially with a lot of time typically just give up.. i.e. not seeing the value in trying to do something meaningful with their lives. having the support system helps a lot and makes such a difference, it takes mental perseverance to be on your own hero.
Always amazing when a scene is so good that the guys are just watching, you know? No commentary, just pure enjoyment from them
Ikr almost forgot I was watching TH-cam
As a kid growing up in an abusive household the thought of seeing my male genetic adult (some might say father but he wasn't that) again kept me going even when people said he never wanted me, when I was 30 I found his obituary and his family confirmed he never wanted me but just the thought of him helped so much that I honestly think I wouldn't have reached adulthood without that; it took me years of therapy to see it. Everyone in a tough spot need something to cling to.
I was working at a movie theater when this movie came out. It was instantly a favorite and I would spend my lunch watching bits and pieces.
I even took home the cardboard stand up display.
You were in the minority back then..
When the movie's came out it was SLAUGHTERED by critics, for humanizing convicts...
I think it's possible to neither be growing nor regressing. Takes a serious trauma though, to get frozen in that trauma where you just stop. Then seclusion.
You gents are amazing! I needed to watch this video today. I’ve been dealing with Long Covid for 3 long years, and because there’s no cure my life has felt a bit hopeless wondering if I’ll ever get better. You reminded me that I might not ever get fully better, but I can still work on becoming a better person regardless of the Long Covid outcome. My husband and I are watching “Shawshank” this evening. Bless you!
We wish you well. Thanks for watching! Enjoy Shawshank this evening!
Responding to Alan's comment at the end about having his sense of worth and success tied to his status quo sense of "accomplishments" -- I am retired in my 30s because I'm too disabled to ever work at all, and according to capitalism I am not "successful" and never will be, but I came to a realization earlier this year that I am actually pretty successful because I know how to rest, how to set boundaries, how to have a hard conversation, how to apologize, how to celebrate, how to take a day or a week off, how to be alone, how to live in line with my morals and with intention, and how to sit and do absolutely nothing, and those are skills many people don't have yet. So: here's a different, more loving and I think more true way to measure "success" or accomplishment.
There's a reason Hope was the last thing to escape Pandora's Box.
"Break the body and the body will heal. Break the spirit and the body will die."
This video was so well timed. I’m getting out a touch period in my life and sometimes I find myself losing hope and feeling that everything horrible I experienced was for nothing. But I did grow, which currently does feel like a sad little consolation prize, but it was nice to hear that growth is the best I could get from leaving a horrible experience.
Reading between the lines I think I understand your situation. If it’s the same one I was in, your life is going to get better than you ever imagined it could be. Hope!
For anyone who hasn’t seen this movie, watch it. As they said, it’s hands down one of the best films ever made. I’ve seen it a couple dozen times and every time it gets better.
This movie hits differently as an older man.
When I was younger it was a story about hope. I see it again as an older man as a story about hope. The part that's different us me. I've done hard time for a crime I never committed. I've had friends, family, ex-cons, a judge and even a retired District attorney ask me how I kept going, how I kept living in a kafkaesque/twilight zone nightmare. And it was just as you described: Hope. And growth. Do one thing for yourself today to make a better tomorrow. If you can't get the outcome, ask who you have become because of it.
And now my friends who got divorced and lost their jobs describe me the same way. As hope for them to keep going.
Would love to do an episode with you guys one day after my book comes out.
This film really resonates with me.
I'm a Desert Storm veteran with PTSD who was intentionally misdiagnosed by the military. I spent 30 years continuously misdiagnosed with depression and personality disorders.
For those years, I was living at exactly the federal poverty level on social security.
Once I got a correct diagnosis, I spent 6 months of hell putting together all the disability evidence for the VA, causing me to relive all my traumatic events over again.
I spent 30 years in a prison of severe mental illness due to the actions of others. I spent 6 months crawling through that sewer pipe.
And now, I've come out clean on the other side.
(The only difference is that, thanks to Trump's "fixing" the VA claims backlog, I got cheated out of 28 years of that severance pay.)
I don’t know how to say this without sounding patronizing, so please just trust that that’s NOT my intent…I want to say thank you, and that I am SO proud of you, and incredibly impressed. It takes so much damn courage to put yourself back through that trauma mentally just to perform like a puppet to the government that you need help, and that’s THEIR job, since they put you in that situation in the first place. I hope you get a really good lawyer and I hope you get some restitution pay, and I hope that you use it to help others in the same position! Sending love 🤍
@@Miss_Camel [EDITED] I decided to remove this post because it was a bunch of manic bipolar "flight of ideas".
I know better than to converse with people when I'm manic, but I keep forgetting every time I'm manic.
@@axebeard6085 heyyyy, I spent 25 years misdiagnosed, too! I’m basically “Utterly useless in everyday life” level ADHD, and severe panic disorder (Just..everything makes me hyperventilate and pass out. It’s genuinely inconvenient), but did I mention ADHD? I care deeply about your story, that is never going to be a lie. But you ARE gonna have to sum it up in a couple of sentences if I’m ever gonna absorb all that, cause I’ve tried 3 times and somehow ended up thinking of Ferris wheels every time? I don’t have an excuse for that.
@@Miss_Camel Sorry. I was having one of my angry bipolar moments.
And you don't need to apologize. Its normal to have difficulty understanding what someone in a bipolar mania is saying.
I do apologize for subjecting you to that "Ferris wheel".
Oh gosh, you don’t have to apologize! I definitely did not read past the first line. ADHD.
And thanks for shortening this one ❤️
- THANK YOU for playing those final lines - my all-time favorite ending dialogue in the history of film.
- Jonathan, thank you so much for sharing your personal "walls" - everything you said so deeply resonated with me. There's an area of my life where I know how things work, I'm confident there, I'm capable there... and everywhere else I feel so utterly incapable and incompetent that it feels pointless to even try, because I don't see the skill sets in myself that I think are necessary. Alan, thank you for talking about feeling your worth is tied to your performance/accomplishments - I've dealt with that for a long time as well and, with help, I'm learning to see beyond that perspective and shift that mindset.
- Thank you *both* for the reminders that my subjective thoughts & perceived reality are not objective fact. I forget that I need to be reminded of that sometimes. ❤ You're amazing internet dads & I'm so grateful for this channel! [PS - Happy early Father's Day to you both!]
Thank you guys for uploading this. To be honest, I've been going through some tribulation lately that has rendered me toxic, and like all of us, we go through highs and lows, but the goodness of your hearts has reminded me to stay good even in the lows.
Hope you're doing better. Thanks for watching!
The double-edged sword of hope is something I've thought a lot about before. Like in the story Pandora's Box, when she finally gets the box shut, all that's left in the box was Hope. Hope can help save us against the Evils she released, but it itself was in the box of evils meaning its capacity for being an Evil.
For me, hope is finding that silver lining, even in the worst of circumstances. I’m a recovering heroin addict, and early in my recovery I lost my little sister quite tragically and my father, with whom I was very close, within one year. People ask me how I didn’t relapse, and it was hope. Hope that the pain would subside, and that I’d find a way to use that pain to help others.
This is the moment we’ve been waiting for. Thank you so much, guys.
You should 100% do an episode on Life is Beautiful! Was so great to hear it mention in comparison with this great movie!
This was my FAAAAAAAVORITE movie for years! I watched it as often as I could back when it was airing all the time, until I could buy it on video.
I got to the point where I would have to fast forward through the Brooke's scene cause that sweet old man reninded me too much of my dad. Seeing him so lonely & suffering was just too heart breaking for me.
Thanks for covering this amazing classic❤❤❤
Shawshank is incredible. I first saw it in school when we were studying crime and punishment in our RE lessons and learning about the prison system. Loved it then and I still love it now.
I watched this movie three times so far and all times, I cried. Also, what I found a beautiful but also FUNFACT: The movie is called "A remény rabjai" in Hungarian which translates to "The prisoners/hostages of hope". I found that terribly fitting.
The statement about growth and being scared reminded when my friend of mine once accidentally said something profound when helping me through my first playthrough of Dark Souls: "Yeah. Gets scary and difficult, but you can't get better if you're afraid to leave bonfire."
I think this movie says a lot about our archaic, for profit prison system
Man’s Search For Meaning changed the way I look at life. I like to keep an extra copy around to give to others who can use it. Always happy to hear others appreciate it as well!
Jesus, that bit of being institutionalized in your own mind hit hard. This episode was a full therapy session in and of itself.
one of the greatest dramatic films of all time. Not much action but man, does it punch hard. I have watched it countless times after my uncle recommended it to my family.
I love this conversation at the end about growth and loving yourself. That is the journey I am on, and I feel like it's going pretty well. I'd love to see you guys talk about the difficulties when the people you're close with are not on that same path and are stuck in patterns of low self esteem, dysregulation, etc. It feels almost impossible to maintain the relationship, but how do you navigate that without causing more damage to that person?
We watched this in my psychology class to discuss the idea of institutionalisation and it’s really cool to see you guys cover it, I bet One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest would be an excellent movie to cover to expand on your points
Great episode guys!
I literally watched both Shawshank Redemption and Life is Beautiful for the first time last night back to back just before I saw this episode had come out 😂
I loved this movie so much because of the way it doesn’t shy away from the brutalities of prison life and treatment, and how we can’t except people to be rehabilitated by being stuck inside a concrete box for years on end with every decision of their life being made for them.
Also I feel like an episode on Life is Beautiful would be nice at some point because I feel like there’s so much to unpack within it.
Oh this is a powerful story! Can’t wait to watch this one. You guys are seriously my favourite TH-cam channel, I get so excited whenever you guys post! ❤
You're so kind. Thanks for watching! 😊
True story, I absolutely hated this movie growing up: it was on TV all the time and my dad watched it EVERY TIME. It wasn't until my 30s that I sat down at watched it start to finish and cried my eyes out. Now it's one of my favs. I realized I only ever saw the worst parts as a kid. Such an incredible film
Oh my god that Raycon ad killed me 😂🤣
Alan: "Hey Jono!"
Jonathan: "Oh gosh I'm sorry. I was just listening to Sull'aria from Le Nozze di Figaro."
Alan: "Yeah. Smart."
Made me burst out laughing 😆
Alan... my guy, when you mentioned how your self worth was tied to your accomplishments... I think I'm currently going through this same revelation now in my life. Thank you for the proverbial slap upside my head.
This is my Dad's favourite film and he was so excited to show it to me, we sat down and watched it together when I was probably about 14/15, its subsequently become one of my favourite films and is just phenomenal in its storytelling and character development. It's rare that a film outshines the source material but Shawshank definitely does - even Stephen King said so! Just an incredible film and it makes me so happy that you guys are talking about it!
OMG YES! Morgan Freeman's narration here is the best!
Shawshank Redemption is one of my all time favorite movies. I watch it to get those important reminders from time to time. I'd like to reccomend another movie called Song of the Sea. It's an Irish animated movie that uses folklore to explore a family's process of losing their mother and wife. It has a very bittersweet ending that's guaranteed to make you cry.
Now you can see why this is my absolute favourite movie of all time , Morgan Freeman’s voice you could get lost in forever 🥹❤️
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I love you guys, keep it up! You keep my interest in psychotherapy and movies alive. ❤
This is one of my dad's favourite movies and we watched it a lot when I was growing up. I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it as an adult because I know it will hit me even harder than when I was younger. Even watching the clips of Brooks in this episode made me want to cry.
Great episode! Hope is... powerful. And all I've had consistently for a while. Without going into my own sad story, I'll just say that hope + stubbornness = some measure of success.
Blessed day/night to all who see this!
HAPPY PRIDE MONTH! 🙏❤🏳🌈🏳⚧
This is my favourite movie! I'm so excited to watch this one ❤ Thank you so so much ❤
You're so welcome!
The book Man's Search For Meaning pulled me back from the edge of a very dark time. One of the greatest books ever written, and arguably one of the most important books a person can read if they want to live a good life.
For whatever it’s worth, oftentimes even when people achieve whatever they set out to accomplish, that dopamine rush doesn’t end up lasting very long, then people find themselves sad and confused thinking they should be feeling fulfilled. That long-lasting sense of fulfillment is really seen in those people who value that growth mindset, which is summarized greatly by the movie and this review!!
Great one of my favorite movies down 😁 now I just want to know if we’re getting that Goofy movie reaction for this Father’s Day 👀👀