@@PrezentEnt There wouldn’t always be a top plate in a home? I never ran into a house without being able to access from the top plate, down to the exterior wall.
At 3:50, it is apparent that they used hydraulic cement to set the box in place. Hydraulic cement will set in under 5 minutes and even works under water. You can tell by the appearance for those who are familiar with it. Nifty trick. They just left that part out which may be the most the critical step in the process.
Not at all. Hydraulic cement won’t bond to plastic anyway. Half a brick is the exact size of one of those boxes. I usually take a rotary hammer with a chisel bit and remove half the brick. The box wedges itself perfectly in the hole. No cement needed
Excellent video. Thank you TOH! Definitely showed me all the steps. I was also curious about using a plastic box instead of a galvanized metal one like in a previous video I watched.
Nothing compared to when you stand up in an attic and smack your head on a nail penetrating all the way through 1/4 an inch. Had that happen once and everytime I go into an attic and see nails as visible as 1/2, sometimes even an inch, I worry about nailing my brain one day..
Also a tip to any home owner in an old house. Becareful with cloth wiring which can have "asbestos" and is Friable when touched/cut/ripped. Alot of DIY homeowners will tackle the job not thinking of the dangers that can result. The home depots won't tell you this.
There is an obvious time jump in the quality of daylight. Was that for the mortar to set or was there an issue? That was clearly an all day project I wonder how much she charged the customer.
when making an addition to a light such as yours, is it a must by code that you run it directly from the junction box or can it be taken from an existing light fixture box? or does it matter
The slices or junctions, per code, must be made in a junction box. That box can be an added box as they did in this video (to correct the illegal splicing method done previously in addition to providing a junction point for the new light), or it could come off of a box for an existing light. As long as the splice is made in an accessable junction box, it meets code. They could have run the wire for the new light fixture into the box for the porch light and make the connection in that box, but since there was already a splice in the attic for that existing porch light, and they needed to put that slice into a junction box, it makes sense to just use that juction point for the new light as well.
placing morter around box is all you need? nothing else to anchor it to the brick? box will never pull out later without attaching anything else but morter?
Because it is plastic mortar does stick to it and it will swell and shrink and fall out of there. Let's assume though she left enough wood sheathing on each side of the box to run screws through the back of the box to secure it.
It's a pretty good video, though the part about attaching, setting the box should have had more information. I noticed quite a few comments on here asking what's holding it in. If you're going to title something "How to . . . " then show and explain ALL of the important steps. I'm not a pro, but have tackled several in-depth DIY projects across several trades: plumbing, electrical, roofing, framing, etc. And I try to do all my work above code. But in order to do something right, a person needs to know about important things like how to ensure the box to which the fixture is going to be mounted is solidly in place. Of course pros who see this video may have done these projects before, so glossing over things is fine for them. But just another 30 seconds to one minute more of explanation could have filled in the missing gaps for a much broader base of people. Comments such as, "If you're asking questions like X, then you have no business even attempting this type of project" are somewhat arrogant. If there's a missing piece to the puzzle, there's not a thing wrong with asking about it. Besides, the missing piece had more to do with construction and masonry than electrical.
It looks like the feed cable has no ground wire so wouldn't you be required to add a ground wire from the service panel to the new junction box? Otherwise, the grounds for the light fixtures are un-terminated.
Worst case scenario you would put a dead face gfci at the panel, that would be sufficient. Other wise yes you would have to pull a new wire if it has no ground.
So.... what was the point of attaching the ground wires if the original wire going to the switch and panel did not have a grounding conductor? Just curious... other than that .... straight to the point.
Good catch. The old wire should have been completely replaced to bring it up to code. My guess is the junction box at the switch doesn't even have a ground and looks like a rats nest.
I found this article where someone asked that topic. May not be totally applicable, but seems close. www.justanswer.com/electrical/8nipq-il-circumstances-bx-allowed-length.html
@Karol Palazej if an electrician takes all day to install a light and charges me $$10,000 I would call BS on that guy and have his certification pulled
This is not Joe DYI filming his TH-cam video. It is a national TV show with a professional film crew. That shot in the attic - there was probably an hour or two of prep, getting the camera situated, making sure the lighting is correct. They also probably purposely shot into the night because...they were installing a light fixture that is used at night!
Karen Kramer A job like this is typically done with a helper, so figure about $500 for labor, $40 for raw materials, plus cost of desired light fixture.
Did she drill through the top plate of the exterior wall? It didn’t look like it. Did she fish the wire from a cavity above the closet? I missed something there. Can someone please tell me if it is ok to drill through the top plate to install a fixture on an exterior brick wall?
How can i mount a box, i have no acces to studs or anything, im gonna run wire from a near light but i cant mount the box with only a hole... do i need a special box o mounting device?? Please help
Jay Tee we have 220-260 running to our houses for the things like whole house air conditioners ovens furnaces and the dryer all your lights and receptacles are using 110-130 (those voltages are the same from where I live your voltages may differ)
This video has some flaws and the armchair contractors will tell you in the comments but the biggest one for me was using a indoor box outdoors. Should have used a metal box. Overall, nice job!
Metal boxes really shouldn't be use for outside exposure due to if a wire comes loose it could charge the box and when you go to touch that metal light fixture..that's...bad news..she used the right.box.
Am I the only one who is bothered by her using a device box, with holes for 6-32 screws for switches and receptacles, instead of a proper light box, with holes for 8-32 screws, meant for mounting light fixtures?
She's definitely better than Scott Caron. My man can't fish and loves running wires on the surface of drywall. He would have drilled through the front of the house and just ran UF on the brick....
asdas asd You are working electricity homes? What does that mean? And what do people have to reply to you? You're trying to find a job by posting comments on TH-cam? LOL
He wants a chance to work on the show, what's so difficult to understand about that? Don't belittle someone for trying something you didn't think of, whether it works or not.
Instead of messing with the old light, she should have just installed the new light and wire it directly to the switch that is fifteen inches away. She went through the attic for no reason.
This tells you the steps, it doesn't tell you how to, for example, use a hammer drill, use mortar, wire electricity without killing yourself. You clearly need to save the job for a pro.
the switch is behind the wall and instead of running a wire from it she goes to the attic and runs a wire all along the ceiling. Ridiculous but makes a show i guess
I love the way they make it look sooooooooooooo easy. They never show the issues we come across in the real world when doing any project.
Arnoldo Lorenzo don’t try this method that does apply to every home. Depending on the pitch of your roof this could be impossible to do
"hey theres our wire" haha thay easy even woth insulation in the wall
Plus it was daylight when they started and dark out when they finished
@@PrezentEnt There wouldn’t always be a top plate in a home? I never ran into a house without being able to access from the top plate, down to the exterior wall.
That old house doesn’t have fire blocks? Ok.
She's definitely confident plugging the holes in the attic before she's found the wire from the outside
wkbeats this doesn’t seem like her first rodeo.
Rediscover Film that’s just something you don’t do in real life lol
The magic of video editing. Probably done after they were all done. Also, I noticed the second hole when dropping the wire from the attic.
Its not hard if you know how to use a tape. I have 8 years experience journeymen electrician
Bet she plugs two other holes frequently as well
wow I'm impressed. green apprentices come out the attic puking from the heat and with no idea of what to do. she makes it look easy.
At 3:50, it is apparent that they used hydraulic cement to set the box in place. Hydraulic cement will set in under 5 minutes and even works under water. You can tell by the appearance for those who are familiar with it. Nifty trick. They just left that part out which may be the most the critical step in the process.
Not at all. Hydraulic cement won’t bond to plastic anyway. Half a brick is the exact size of one of those boxes. I usually take a rotary hammer with a chisel bit and remove half the brick. The box wedges itself perfectly in the hole. No cement needed
I did exactly the same thing on my house and this video was a GREAT HELP... almost step for step
She's legit. Good work. I can't say anything.
Excellent video. Thank you TOH! Definitely showed me all the steps. I was also curious about using a plastic box instead of a galvanized metal one like in a previous video I watched.
Excellent video !!!
She knows her stuff
Cowgirl electrician! 👏💕👍
You rock Michelle!!!!
Awesome
Straight forward instructions for DIY and nice clean job. Thanks
Agreed, this was a very clean, quality and to the point video.
Great episode! Nice work
at 4:09, the delay between bulbs makes me think they used LED's. Good idea, as these bulbs will most likely be on for extended periods.
Wow you have a good eye and they are using LEDs
or a CFL for 2014
I only use incandescent bulbs because LEDs create harmful dirty electricity and blue light.
Brilliant electrician
1:10 ouch bet that hurt
Haha, nice catch. I've hit my head on roof rafters more times than I can remember. Better a rafter than a roofing nail, though!
Hahaha did t even notice the first time
She did good not swearing when hit. I would've said something.
Nothing compared to when you stand up in an attic and smack your head on a nail penetrating all the way through 1/4 an inch. Had that happen once and everytime I go into an attic and see nails as visible as 1/2, sometimes even an inch, I worry about nailing my brain one day..
They sell a hat for that
Super awesome video. I might not try this myself but I learnt a lot about how to do it if ever I need to.
Also a tip to any home owner in an old house. Becareful with cloth wiring which can have "asbestos" and is Friable when touched/cut/ripped. Alot of DIY homeowners will tackle the job not thinking of the dangers that can result. The home depots won't tell you this.
Oh course "Home Depot" won't tell you that. They are a mass business and care about profits.
I have found that theres a feed from the switch all the way to that light because when I switch it on see, it turns on.
She is a good job working
Alway forget about the fire caulk.
What did you guys use to sucure the blue electrical box to the brick, was it quick create morter?
What did she use when setting the box? Was that mortar?
Amazing, thanks so much!
he is learning like its lesson on string theory
Love the door
1:10 that must´ve been painful to bump into that rafter
Painful for the rafter
At least she didn't hit a roof nail. That would've been a trip to the ER
Thank you sincerely! The instructions were easy to follow!
There is an obvious time jump in the quality of daylight. Was that for the mortar to set or was there an issue? That was clearly an all day project I wonder how much she charged the customer.
Either that or they wanted to show the light fixture while it was on during a darker setting.
Beautiful.
Great video!
when making an addition to a light such as yours, is it a must by code that you run it directly from the junction box or can it be taken from an existing light fixture box? or does it matter
The slices or junctions, per code, must be made in a junction box. That box can be an added box as they did in this video (to correct the illegal splicing method done previously in addition to providing a junction point for the new light), or it could come off of a box for an existing light. As long as the splice is made in an accessable junction box, it meets code. They could have run the wire for the new light fixture into the box for the porch light and make the connection in that box, but since there was already a splice in the attic for that existing porch light, and they needed to put that slice into a junction box, it makes sense to just use that juction point for the new light as well.
Thanks alot for this reply I appreciate it
What an underwhelming reaction to installing an outdoor lantern. If I were the homeowner, I would be ecstatic.
placing morter around box is all you need? nothing else to anchor it to the brick? box will never pull out later without attaching anything else but morter?
Because it is plastic mortar does stick to it and it will swell and shrink and fall out of there. Let's assume though she left enough wood sheathing on each side of the box to run screws through the back of the box to secure it.
That paper thin blown in insulation gets an R value of what, 1.5? 2 at the most?
It's a pretty good video, though the part about attaching, setting the box should have had more information. I noticed quite a few comments on here asking what's holding it in. If you're going to title something "How to . . . " then show and explain ALL of the important steps. I'm not a pro, but have tackled several in-depth DIY projects across several trades: plumbing, electrical, roofing, framing, etc. And I try to do all my work above code. But in order to do something right, a person needs to know about important things like how to ensure the box to which the fixture is going to be mounted is solidly in place. Of course pros who see this video may have done these projects before, so glossing over things is fine for them. But just another 30 seconds to one minute more of explanation could have filled in the missing gaps for a much broader base of people. Comments such as, "If you're asking questions like X, then you have no business even attempting this type of project" are somewhat arrogant. If there's a missing piece to the puzzle, there's not a thing wrong with asking about it. Besides, the missing piece had more to do with construction and masonry than electrical.
They showed you exactly how to do it, you hire an electrician. That's what they did.
Nice job!
It looks like the feed cable has no ground wire so wouldn't you be required to add a ground wire from the service panel to the new junction box? Otherwise, the grounds for the light fixtures are un-terminated.
Worst case scenario you would put a dead face gfci at the panel, that would be sufficient. Other wise yes you would have to pull a new wire if it has no ground.
@@morlead8787 Yup, or GFI breaker, Kind of important and would have thought TOH would be sure to point that out, but no.
No caulking required because the porch will keep rain from getting behind the fixture?
I would still caulk it. All it takes is some wind to drive the rain under the porch.
Correct. Looks like there is plenty of cover from the roof so no need to worry about water getting behind it.
+Tim Kridel Errr She said Fire Caulking, she is not concerned about water.... its fire Fire fire.... how does a fire spread >>>???
He's saying she should've caulked behind the light fixture and the brick
Most quality outdoor rated fixtures come with box gaskets, which work well to seal the box once you tighten the mounting screws.
So.... what was the point of attaching the ground wires if the original wire going to the switch and panel did not have a grounding conductor? Just curious... other than that .... straight to the point.
Good catch. The old wire should have been completely replaced to bring it up to code. My guess is the junction box at the switch doesn't even have a ground and looks like a rats nest.
my modern mid-century attic is tiny and only accessible by belly crawling, the fibre-glass insulation itch, & the heat is unreal.
How is the box anchored?
The brick mortar
Wow that took all day got dark when they finished
Good catch I didn't notice. This old house never shows every step.
So is concrete the only thing holding that electric box ,no wood or screws or tapcons
vrea77
Once it dries, it’s not going anywhere.
So lucky they can use romex wire. In the Chicago area, conduit is used per code.
Geoff Morse even in retro situations?
Leonard Holt - Yes, all is conduit. Oh and for some reason, outlets are installed sideways.
Geoff Morse how about MC cable?
Leonard Holt - Not sure.
I found this article where someone asked that topic. May not be totally applicable, but seems close. www.justanswer.com/electrical/8nipq-il-circumstances-bx-allowed-length.html
I love your show, and videos! I learn so much. It inspires me!
good job
Coming up on our next episode: How to Spray WD-40 on Door Hinge Pins.
No insulation between the outside wall and interior wall...interesting. Where's the "that was easy" button for fishing the electrical wire.
You don't need to insulate unconditioned areas. An open porch is unconditioned. You can leave insulation off in those areas.
@@umeng2002 That wall looks like it leads to an interior space.
Haha it sure did turn nighttime fast
Is she using brick mortar to secure the box into the bricks?
Its night time when they finished, the job took all day
There's also the added time for production. Every time you move spots, all the gear has to move also.
or they started right before sunset
@Karol Palazej if an electrician takes all day to install a light and charges me $$10,000 I would call BS on that guy and have his certification pulled
This is not Joe DYI filming his TH-cam video. It is a national TV show with a professional film crew. That shot in the attic - there was probably an hour or two of prep, getting the camera situated, making sure the lighting is correct. They also probably purposely shot into the night because...they were installing a light fixture that is used at night!
@Karol Palazej it is a cool story, cooler than you pretending you know what you're talking about
How much does it cost for something like this?
Karen Kramer
A job like this is typically done with a helper, so figure about $500 for labor, $40 for raw materials, plus cost of desired light fixture.
Jesus!
@@RobertLeBlancPhoto I just saw the response. Thank you
@@RobertLeBlancPhoto Add a 75% markup on all of those materials too.
Lol 1:10 the lady was saying FML internally
Fishing through a brick wall has never looked so easy! Last time I fished through a brick wall it took me 2 hours 😭.
And here’s how to install a new light circuit and fixture on a front brick wall in 4 minutes 15 seconds LOL
Did she drill through the top plate of the exterior wall? It didn’t look like it. Did she fish the wire from a cavity above the closet? I missed something there. Can someone please tell me if it is ok to drill through the top plate to install a fixture on an exterior brick wall?
Fine to drill a ½” hole through the top plate of even load bearing walls.
How can i mount a box, i have no acces to studs or anything, im gonna run wire from a near light but i cant mount the box with only a hole... do i need a special box o mounting device?? Please help
Get an “old work” box.
So about how much would someone charge for this ??
Chris C regarding your question, tell me if you see this. th-cam.com/video/jrJFpjSksaM/w-d-xo.html&google_comment_id=UgyB-wtBmhO2aUxqUjd4AaABAg
Chris someone asked the same th-cam.com/video/jrJFpjSksaM/w-d-xo.html&google_comment_id=UgxaH1wPDB53hzJAJpF4AaABAg
Not an expert by any means, but is romex allowed for a wire going outdoors?
Yes. The box is completely in the wall and the romex isn't exposed
Yes, but unlike this video, I'd caulk up the light after installing it to prevent water from getting into the electrical box.
@@Egleu1 They also make a UV safe outdoor rated romex I believe,
You (by code here) are not permitted to install 2 wires on 1 staple -- 2:26
It’s allowed everywhere in the US
So basically one light switch Turns on three lights
wow electrical standards in america are low! that junction box! splicing!
Joe Langer European standards in general are low!
I'm glad to be living in a nordic country that has high standards. Sometimes too damn high.
We have 110 not 220
Joe Langer that spice should be in a junction box and it’s not up to code if it isn’t but sometimes you do with what you have
Jay Tee we have 220-260 running to our houses for the things like whole house air conditioners ovens furnaces and the dryer all your lights and receptacles are using 110-130 (those voltages are the same from where I live your voltages may differ)
This video has some flaws and the armchair contractors will tell you in the comments but the biggest one for me was using a indoor box outdoors. Should have used a metal box. Overall, nice job!
Metal boxes really shouldn't be use for outside exposure due to if a wire comes loose it could charge the box and when you go to touch that metal light fixture..that's...bad news..she used the right.box.
No Dilly-Dallying she just gets the job done.
Funny looking kitchen she's got there
Did she just cement that new box into the wall?
I wondered why she mortared it.
I would have used insulated staples and a metal box outside.
Mortar would have stuck to the box better.
How much does this cost of an electrician does it.
I'd say 150-300
Did she just use a regular drill to do masonry work?
goosecouple no
Battery powered hammer drill.
Splicing wires together ?? Amazing that is even allowed.
M Fuller
Why not?
???
🤣🤣🤣 okay bozo. Every single receptacle, switch box, light fixture box or any other junction box you see have wires spliced together
"Oh, there is a blockage in the wall. Let me grab my $100 extended drill bit out of the truck."
$15 at harbor freight
Great job but that homeowner needs to lube up his door hinges😖
Am I the only one who is bothered by her using a device box, with holes for 6-32 screws for switches and receptacles, instead of a proper light box, with holes for 8-32 screws, meant for mounting light fixtures?
shanecthompson77 They are cutting corners. Job security.
It’s a plastic box. You can use drywall screws if you want. The plastic will expand. Installing a round box would be a pain for little benefit
Hahaha love that someone caught that.
If it’s a wall mount fixture then it’s fine.
Good lord get some oil on the hinges of that front door.
I think I would have just finished it up from the switch
soon that guy will go to the kitchen and start making lunch.
She's definitely better than Scott Caron. My man can't fish and loves running wires on the surface of drywall. He would have drilled through the front of the house and just ran UF on the brick....
How many contractors does it take to install this light bulb?
Christopher Rotondo
None. The homeowner installed the bulb into the fixture that the electrician wired and installed.
you should really drill holes threw 2x6 not run the wire over the studs
That chic schooled you fools...
You sure she's a she?
Steve irwin is that u?
i wonder what state that is in, that would not fly with our inspectors........oh wait the wont even get an inspection :P
They don't need one when we got TH-cam inspectors :P
What part of this do you feel “wouldn’t fly” with an inspector?
she said 2 pound hammer , remember to use only that and nothing else
They could use more insulation their
Total babe!
i am working electricity homes for 12 years and i want a chance to work please reply
asdas asd You are working electricity homes? What does that mean? And what do people have to reply to you? You're trying to find a job by posting comments on TH-cam? LOL
He wants a chance to work on the show, what's so difficult to understand about that? Don't belittle someone for trying something you didn't think of, whether it works or not.
you could make coffee for everyone on the show
wish ther was sound
David Berquist Turn your speakers on then
There is sound
Instead of messing with the old light, she should have just installed the new light and wire it directly to the switch that is fifteen inches away. She went through the attic for no reason.
maybe the box fill is too much?
This was my first thought as well. I'm guessing the box was completely oveloaded.
No way to get the new wire into the back of the existing switch box.
Cut a little drywall and you’re done. Keep it clean and it’s an easy repair. People are so afraid of a little spackle
It wasn't a requirement to have neutrals in switch boxes until 2011. That, or like everyone else said box fill was probably reached.
I've never seen a female electrician.
Looks to easy smh
i don't Think I saw a female electrician before
you showed practically nothing, so thanks for...well...nothing.
This tells you the steps, it doesn't tell you how to, for example, use a hammer drill, use mortar, wire electricity without killing yourself. You clearly need to save the job for a pro.
if you weren't able to understand the process with what was shown you have no business touching electric wires!
the switch is behind the wall and instead of running a wire from it she goes to the attic and runs a wire all along the ceiling. Ridiculous but makes a show i guess