Utah OHV Trail Host here. One thing that I always tell other riders is to go prepared with wet weather gear and survival gear (food, tarp, light source, fire source, medical kit, etc.) as the weather can turn on you quickly. Especially in the summertime when monsoon season arrives. Riding in hail / hard rain is painful. If you have the ability to shelter somewhere along the trail and wait it out, do it. Let things settle down before you venture back onto the trails. Glad you didn't actually get met with a flash flood on the trail as stated in your title here. That would have ended much, much differently than you making it safely back to the trailhead as you guys were able to.
I live jsut north of Moab and man THIS the beggining of this video is a SCARY place to be, it’s 100% serious flash flood comming , roads washing out trails getting blocked, always know where high ground is and better to wait it out than risk crossing even a small water crossing in this. Glad u made it!
That's my kind of ride, definitely NOT boring. I felt for the guy on the ATV, glad the hail wasn't any bigger, being soaked is miserable enough. Thanks for sharing.
It's too bad they don't make some sort of hard head covering that could protect you from life-threatening head trauma. Something responsible riders could wear to stay safe and comfortable. That might have come in handy with the hail.
I was holding my breathe on those narrow trails where you had to go to the outside and then big mud puddles splashing up and almost over you! Hail was crazy there for a second 🥺Enjoyed this ride in Moab through your lens!
I was amazed how one good storm could reconstruct the landscape. Just outside of Eastern phx desert, I was riding on a Wednesday. Rained Thursday and Friday AM. I returned Saturday and every wash was cleared out with 3ft drops and no sign of any trails... dangerous sometimes!
a bit redundant mate. just say it was awesome. we all know you be the bloke that said it. who elses perspective would it be from son? Just makes you sound silly- at least from my perspective.
My husband was hit in the forehead by a baseball size hail. It started pea sized. He was trying to put a very heavy blanket to cover the windshield. He got one side secured and was working on the other size when the large hail came. One hit the windshield frame and bounce off the frame and hit him. His forehead was bleeding really bad. I took him to ER. He had a small crack in his skull plus had to have two stitches on the inside and three stitches on the outside. Now we just leave the van alone while it’s hailing. He don’t let husband outside either when there is hail.
I did that trail this summer. It was H.O.T. hot and I was hoping for a sprinkle to cool off, but not that weather you got! We did get soaked on Hell's Revenge around sunset and froze!
Yeah, we were hoping for just “a sprinkle” as well. We actually did hells revenge the night before and got hit with a similar storm. Haha. Made for two fun adventures that weekend . Spent about 5 minutes trying to climb out of The Devil’s Hot Tub with muddy tires and Finally made it. Scariest climb of my life.
What a scary ride! Getting pelted by hail and rain, I was hoping you guys wouldn't slide off the mountain. I'm so happy you guys are safe and healthy 🙂
I have to ask the question because I don't know. When I was watching this I was thinking why are you driving down from the top into the flooding area below? I would think waiting at the top until the flooding was over would make more sense, Unless the storm is a large storm and if that was the case why are we out there in the first place if there is a large storm in the forecast? Just curious ... Interesting video and looked very uncomfortable for the guy on the four wheeler.
Good question. The parking lot at the bottom was not in a wash and up on a hill where water wouldn't be able to pool up, so we thought we'd be good. It doesn't show in the video, but after the water came down for a while, a huge pond pooled up about 3 feet deep and 50 feet long near the end of the trail, but the water wasn't moving fast, so no real danger. There was just a chance of rain in the forecast and we were in the last few miles when it hit out of the blue. Just made for a little extra adventure to finish out the ride. Yes, riding the four-wheeler was unpleasant. That was me. haha.
@@prolineutv well, you had to get to your car. this is a silly response and was silly to even try to ford this just to get to your car when you could have waited the whole thing out. you said yourself your car wasn't in any real danger so why put yourself into danger?
I'd say, you don't know how much rain is coming and it could wash the road out completely! Watchin Cerro Gordo mines channel and they had their road washed out, twice!!! Probably best to get down asap!
You have to factor in getting down before a potential mudslide or rockslide took place that would have blocked the road and prevented them from getting down after the storm. Also, that rock out there is slippery when it is just a little wet on the surface, It would be easier to go over those rocks when they are soaking wet or submerged because the tires can displace the water when it is making contact.
I'm not a 4WD guy so I hope this isn't a dumb question but why wouldn't they have just stayed on the high ground and let it pass as most storms like this do after 15 minutes to an hour? That being said, thanks for showing us just how much water can fall and how outrageous it gets in just minutes. Great footage!
There was a lot of lightning and no good cover options. Those were the main reason we didn’t stay out. Also, we were only a mile or so from the end of the trail, so figured we could get down to the vehicles and have some real shelter.
@@prolineutv that makes a lot of sense. The lightning exposure is one thing the viewer can't quite grasp completely unless one were there. Thanks for adding these details. Safe four wheeling
Always wondered how the jeep roads there get so rutted out. On the MTB trails, basic etiquette is to wait until the surface doesn't take an impression greater than an inch. Not checking the weather doesn't hold as an excuse to destroy the MTB trails 😇 Maybe similar would be good to adopt for OHV?
Lol...after living in Moab and working as a 4x4 guide here for years...I have discovered that basic etiquette isn't usually part of the OHV user group mentality. They are only concerned with their vacation experience...or are just so stupid they don't even think about what you are saying.
2 Years ago I led another trip to Utah. We got caught way up on Poison Spider Mesa in Jeeps. The trail above “the waterfall” was a raging river. We sat and waited for it to pass and for the first time, “the waterfall” was a waterfall. I have som great video of our trip out. I was very concerned that the switchbacks would have been washed away , but the storm only slightly affected that area,
I was at the big waterfall on poison spider last memorial day weekend in a storm just like that. It was awesome!! Maybe I should post the video.. I was in a 4runner tho.. nice to have windows and heater.
Love that area. But that's just a good old storm with runoff. The people who have been caught in actual flash flooding, especially in Utahs slot canyons, would probably disagree with that description. Great stuff!
Yes I kept expecting to see an un-crossable creek, all that run off must have made a good flash flood down stream though:) Cheers from a very wet Australia.
Garmin smartwatches that have a barometer sensor can alert you to drops in atmospheric pressure and send you a storm warning so you know to get out of there.
Something like this also happened to us when we were in Arizona years ago. Went in a “3hr arc tour” that ended up being about 9.5. Best time of my life… all these old ppl where scared and then there’s me young high schooler with my older sister and parents having a hell of a time. Went through 2-3’ of water numerous times to get to trails.We were not properly dressed for rain which was the only rough part as it got a bit colder when the sun went down, go figure in the desert. But the tour place gave us free burgers and shit when we returned. I feel like we owed them lmao.
What a video!!! Since water always flow from high to low areas, wouldn't it be better to just stay put at a higher ground and wait for the water to subside or for the rain to stop? Just curious. Regards,
So that’s what you call a flash flood? Seem like a light trickle to me. But what I don’t understand is if you’re afraid of flooding, why do you go to lower ground, starts raining stay up high it will never flood.
Normally these storms pass very quickly. But every so often a rogue storm will just become immobile and create havoc. Personally, I’d just wait it out at a higher place in the road
I bet the guy on the 4 wheeler wish he had a helmet when the hail started. It would be cool if you could do a voice over of a play by play of what’s going on, what’s going through your mind, etc.
I like all the comments from Flatland, USA, about how dangerous that ride was. I also see how it COULD have been much worse. I would have done the exact same thing you did!
Yeah, a lot of people on here telling us how dumb we were, but going the last mile in the rain to get out of the lighting seemed reasonable at the time. Haha. I thought it was a fun ending to our ride.
It’s a Polaris Turbo R 4. Yes, the new Go Pros have some awesome image stabilizing, especially considering that trail is WAY rougher than it looks in the video.
Maybe your panicking but I would take a deep breath and keep going down with caution , it looks very dangerous ! Arizona & Utah can be deadly when it rains
Good video and I'm sure it wasn't any fun and I'm glad you made it down safely, but that wasn't a flash flood. That's a normal monsoon rain and runoff. Find a safe place and wait it out, they don't last very long.
You should have a talk with your buddies about looking back and not getting to far ahead of each other👌 a few times you were around blind corners from the rest of the group and woulda been SOL or you spilled or the ground gave way.
I'm more concern of that rider on the squad bike , I remember due to rush, he didn't wear any protected gear. Rain with hail is like caught on the middle of a Squirt gun and airsoft cross fire
Utah OHV Trail Host here. One thing that I always tell other riders is to go prepared with wet weather gear and survival gear (food, tarp, light source, fire source, medical kit, etc.) as the weather can turn on you quickly. Especially in the summertime when monsoon season arrives. Riding in hail / hard rain is painful. If you have the ability to shelter somewhere along the trail and wait it out, do it. Let things settle down before you venture back onto the trails. Glad you didn't actually get met with a flash flood on the trail as stated in your title here. That would have ended much, much differently than you making it safely back to the trailhead as you guys were able to.
Bro is riding a quad without a helmet. I'm not sure he's interested in surviving.
Good tips. Do you do Easter Jeep Safari? We usually head out on our own- love Chicken Corners. Must be nice to live out there- but very dry.
I live jsut north of Moab and man THIS the beggining of this video is a SCARY place to be, it’s 100% serious flash flood comming , roads washing out trails getting blocked, always know where high ground is and better to wait it out than risk crossing even a small water crossing in this. Glad u made it!
So Green River ?
Must be nice to live out there mate. I love moab.
Amazing. Looks like one hail of a ride 😁
😂😂😂
Thanks for not putting music over it: the scenery and engine noise was all it needed.
That's my kind of ride, definitely NOT boring. I felt for the guy on the ATV, glad the hail wasn't any bigger, being soaked is miserable enough. Thanks for sharing.
I was hoping someone had a helmet to give them until they got out of that. Getting hit in the head non-stop must have been very painful.
Not in the desert 😂
It's too bad they don't make some sort of hard head covering that could protect you from life-threatening head trauma. Something responsible riders could wear to stay safe and comfortable. That might have come in handy with the hail.
Wow, wild weather for sure. Thanks for making the video in such extreme conditions. I took pity on the poor guy on the 4 wheeler. The hail was crazy!
Yeah, when the hail hit your hands, it was pretty unpleasant. haha.
that was a good trip! thanks for letting us come along! This is gold to whoever enjoys nature rides but can't get out much!
Thanks. Yes, such a good time. The kids will never forget it, even though they weren’t loving it at the time.
Thanks for the video, We were the 5 RZR's in front of you going down. What a wet trip!
Yeah, glad we all had a change of clothes. It was really a fun end to the ride.
I LOVE this ! Especially while watching it all safe and dry from my laptop ...
Thats some beautiful scenery.
I was holding my breathe on those narrow trails where you had to go to the outside and then big mud puddles splashing up and almost over you! Hail was crazy there for a second 🥺Enjoyed this ride in Moab through your lens!
Just a typical Tuesday in Utah. Makes me home sick. Awesome vid
Love the beautiful landscape. Super cool video
Thanks
I was amazed how one good storm could reconstruct the landscape. Just outside of Eastern phx desert, I was riding on a Wednesday. Rained Thursday and Friday AM. I returned Saturday and every wash was cleared out with 3ft drops and no sign of any trails... dangerous sometimes!
That was amazing video.
I felt for the guy on the ATV.
Cool ride!
Quite impressive how after just a few minutes, you start noticing waterfalls everywhere. Scary
Also after just a few minutes you notice it's done raining
Look up the Zion floods from a few years back. 2021 I think.
At least y’all didn’t have to call Matt or Paul
This is some awesome crazy content!! Thank you for sharing!!
What a crazy experience. Glad you recorded it
That went from a little hail and rain to holy hell we better get outa here real quick! Great vid bud
This is a prime example of why you ALWAYS take emergency gear, extra clothes and food and water.
Lol...town is like 1 mile away...seriously
or even better ...Never leave the house!
I'm in a rig that would just continue driving upward through that. I've done it before. Something to be said for windows and doors.
not always practical mate. guess you never been there. ideally smart yes but most days mates just go out and ride. we don't gear up every time.
That was AWESOME. At least from my perspective. Glad all is safe and thank you for sharing.
Thanks.
a bit redundant mate. just say it was awesome. we all know you be the bloke that said it. who elses perspective would it be from son? Just makes you sound silly- at least from my perspective.
My husband was hit in the forehead by a baseball size hail. It started pea sized. He was trying to put a very heavy blanket to cover the windshield. He got one side secured and was working on the other size when the large hail came. One hit the windshield frame and bounce off the frame and hit him. His forehead was bleeding really bad. I took him to ER. He had a small crack in his skull plus had to have two stitches on the inside and three stitches on the outside. Now we just leave the van alone while it’s hailing. He don’t let husband outside either when there is hail.
crazy stuff, those waterfalls are amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Guess I missed the flash flood.
Amazing terrain though. Sounds like they had a good time. 😊
This is why you always bring emergency beer with you.
Very pretty. Amazing how fast the terrain changes with that downpour. Makes you wonder what the rainforest would be like.
not really newman.
Thanks for Sharing
Brings back memories
THAT looked like a fun and adventurous ride, awesome video.
Great video!!! Makes me miss going out to Utah
That was mesmerizing. Thanks for the vicarious fun without the risk of being squished in a rock slide.
I did that trail this summer. It was H.O.T. hot and I was hoping for a sprinkle to cool off, but not that weather you got! We did get soaked on Hell's Revenge around sunset and froze!
Yeah, we were hoping for just “a sprinkle” as well. We actually did hells revenge the night before and got hit with a similar storm. Haha. Made for two fun adventures that weekend . Spent about 5 minutes trying to climb out of The Devil’s Hot Tub with muddy tires and Finally made it. Scariest climb of my life.
What a scary ride! Getting pelted by hail and rain, I was hoping you guys wouldn't slide off the mountain. I'm so happy you guys are safe and healthy 🙂
Things changed fast! Gorgeous scenery
I have to ask the question because I don't know. When I was watching this I was thinking why are you driving down from the top into the flooding area below? I would think waiting at the top until the flooding was over would make more sense, Unless the storm is a large storm and if that was the case why are we out there in the first place if there is a large storm in the forecast?
Just curious ... Interesting video and looked very uncomfortable for the guy on the four wheeler.
Good question. The parking lot at the bottom was not in a wash and up on a hill where water wouldn't be able to pool up, so we thought we'd be good. It doesn't show in the video, but after the water came down for a while, a huge pond pooled up about 3 feet deep and 50 feet long near the end of the trail, but the water wasn't moving fast, so no real danger. There was just a chance of rain in the forecast and we were in the last few miles when it hit out of the blue. Just made for a little extra adventure to finish out the ride. Yes, riding the four-wheeler was unpleasant. That was me. haha.
@@prolineutv well, you had to get to your car. this is a silly response and was silly to even try to ford this just to get to your car when you could have waited the whole thing out. you said yourself your car wasn't in any real danger so why put yourself into danger?
I'd say, you don't know how much rain is coming and it could wash the road out completely! Watchin Cerro Gordo mines channel and they had their road washed out, twice!!! Probably best to get down asap!
You have to factor in getting down before a potential mudslide or rockslide took place that would have blocked the road and prevented them from getting down after the storm.
Also, that rock out there is slippery when it is just a little wet on the surface, It would be easier to go over those rocks when they are soaking wet or submerged because the tires can displace the water when it is making contact.
silly question. dudes ride. dudes get caught in the rain. it happens. no one wants to sit out and get wet for hours son.
I dont think ive ever seen a vid that wasnt all sunny and nice four wheeling from there, thanks...lol
Beautiful and fragile country; big tires and cheap gas; young males and spare time. What a combination.
We used to do stupid stuff like that too. The fire lines in the canyons in Colorado look the same. We thought we were immortal.
I’m so stunned at just how quickly the rain eroded the trail and how quickly the trail became filled with water.
Brings back so many memories. Grew up in the ca desert and when its rain we would jump on our bikes and take off lol
stop lying.
You deserve more subscribers. Hate to mess up the 420, but here it goes...
I'm not a 4WD guy so I hope this isn't a dumb question but why wouldn't they have just stayed on the high ground and let it pass as most storms like this do after 15 minutes to an hour?
That being said, thanks for showing us just how much water can fall and how outrageous it gets in just minutes. Great footage!
There was a lot of lightning and no good cover options. Those were the main reason we didn’t stay out. Also, we were only a mile or so from the end of the trail, so figured we could get down to the vehicles and have some real shelter.
@@prolineutv that makes a lot of sense. The lightning exposure is one thing the viewer can't quite grasp completely unless one were there. Thanks for adding these details. Safe four wheeling
Absolutely love it. Nothing like wild unpredictable weather!!
The fact you choose the most difficult/risky approach to the first obstacle says everything one needs to know about your mindset.
Was a bit sketchy in places, glad you all made it safely down.
I am subscriber number 72🔥💥🦊
Always wondered how the jeep roads there get so rutted out. On the MTB trails, basic etiquette is to wait until the surface doesn't take an impression greater than an inch. Not checking the weather doesn't hold as an excuse to destroy the MTB trails 😇
Maybe similar would be good to adopt for OHV?
Lol...after living in Moab and working as a 4x4 guide here for years...I have discovered that basic etiquette isn't usually part of the OHV user group mentality. They are only concerned with their vacation experience...or are just so stupid they don't even think about what you are saying.
That's one stable camera you got there.
Thank God! I would have gotten car sick 🤢
it dont get no better than this..anywhere
nope
2 Years ago I led another trip to Utah. We got caught way up on Poison Spider Mesa in Jeeps. The trail above “the waterfall” was a raging river. We sat and waited for it to pass and for the first time, “the waterfall” was a waterfall. I have som great video of our trip out. I was very concerned that the switchbacks would have been washed away , but the storm only slightly affected that area,
I was at the big waterfall on poison spider last memorial day weekend in a storm just like that.
It was awesome!!
Maybe I should post the video..
I was in a 4runner tho.. nice to have windows and heater.
that's an awesome video. looks cold
For all the inpatient ones…. 5:55… amazing sight!!! Wonders of nature!!! 🤘🏼
Omg I love this...finally some badass content on TH-cam...damn that musta been fun!!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥🙌🥳🎉
08:30 -- Privy in sight! And it has a ventilator!
This looks like the best time! Love to see it
It was a great time. A lot of people disagreeing in the comments about that. Haha. Much more memorable finishing the ride in the storm.
@@prolineutv who would disagree with this vid, looks like a blast out there!!
Love that area. But that's just a good old storm with runoff. The people who have been caught in actual flash flooding, especially in Utahs slot canyons, would probably disagree with that description. Great stuff!
Some of those people might not be around still to disagree. haha. Those slot canyon floods are no joke.
When all that water got to bottom it met any definition of flash flood and deadly as hell.
Yes I kept expecting to see an un-crossable creek, all that run off must have made a good flash flood down stream though:)
Cheers from a very wet Australia.
Garmin smartwatches that have a barometer sensor can alert you to drops in atmospheric pressure and send you a storm warning so you know to get out of there.
That’s just called “rain”. Flash floods get deeper than a puddle
My thoughts too, I kept expecting to see a flood! :)
Joke is on you guys. 😉
Poison Spider is the top of the watershed...so...it can't really have a giant flood
I love Poison Spider Mesa!
Something like this also happened to us when we were in Arizona years ago. Went in a “3hr arc tour” that ended up being about 9.5. Best time of my life… all these old ppl where scared and then there’s me young high schooler with my older sister and parents having a hell of a time. Went through 2-3’ of water numerous times to get to trails.We were not properly dressed for rain which was the only rough part as it got a bit colder when the sun went down, go figure in the desert. But the tour place gave us free burgers and shit when we returned. I feel like we owed them lmao.
What a video!!! Since water always flow from high to low areas, wouldn't it be better to just stay put at a higher ground and wait for the water to subside or for the rain to stop? Just curious. Regards,
Lightening. Shouldn't stay exposed on the high ground like that
@@driverjayne That's a great reason! Now I know.😀
That trail looks fun as hell but with a name like "poison spider", there's no goddamn way I'm going anywhere near it
This place is amazing!
I guess I missed something...why were you in such a hurry to get to McDonalds back in Moab?
Glad you guys are all safe
Leaving the high ground was genius!
Isn't the high ground is more safe .?
😂😂😂
@@elizabemagnaye1874I think that was sarcasm.
Rock and a hard place, either the water and mud gets you on the way down or the lightning gets you if you stay up top.
IKR!! Y? 🤨🤨🤨
So that’s what you call a flash flood? Seem like a light trickle to me. But what I don’t understand is if you’re afraid of flooding, why do you go to lower ground, starts raining stay up high it will never flood.
We need more. Thank you
Dude in the beginning just goes up the hardest part. 😂 one last climb!
I was on poison spider that day too it was wild. We were way farther in though
lies
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
When does the flash flood come?
Wow! What a great looking ride! Beautiful but potentially dangerous country!
At least it’s not dusty. Thanks from St. Paul Minnesota.
Why not stay at the top till after?
Where was the flash flood?
Beautiful clip but I missed the part where there's a 'flash flood'
I’m in Arizona and just wondering what the elevation is in this area?
Cool video, my stomping grounds CA desert, flash floods happen but lightning is more scary.
Great video.
Beautiful area.
Wild weatehr.
Normally these storms pass very quickly. But every so often a rogue storm will just become immobile and create havoc. Personally, I’d just wait it out at a higher place in the road
I bet the guy on the 4 wheeler wish he had a helmet when the hail started. It would be cool if you could do a voice over of a play by play of what’s going on, what’s going through your mind, etc.
So why did you go to lower ground. In a flash flood you normally look for higher ground
Wow..I once road my bicycle from fruita co. to Moab on the kokopelli trail..
one of most memorable ate trips my friend and took was 10 days around the Moab canyons back in 09
Lie. YOu never left your basement son.
@@MOAB-UT you a fraud with that fake Tahoe Kushhhhh maneeee
I like all the comments from Flatland, USA, about how dangerous that ride was. I also see how it COULD have been much worse. I would have done the exact same thing you did!
Yeah, a lot of people on here telling us how dumb we were, but going the last mile in the rain to get out of the lighting seemed reasonable at the time. Haha. I thought it was a fun ending to our ride.
How cold was it??
That that was not a flash flood! But it fun to play in. 😮
I forgot how many switchbacks it takes to get up. Exciting trip.
Impressive stability in the camera work
Just a standard go pro 10. They do a great job.
FF forward is up to my speed if I thought there was trouble coming and no ending in sight. Lucky on some levels yah....
What vehicle were you filming from? It seemed to handle the terrain well! Thank God for the gimbal or I would have been dizzy watching that! 😅
It’s a Polaris Turbo R 4. Yes, the new Go Pros have some awesome image stabilizing, especially considering that trail is WAY rougher than it looks in the video.
I enjoyed the ride beautiful❤
Maybe your panicking but I would take a deep breath and keep going down with caution , it looks very dangerous ! Arizona & Utah can be deadly when it rains
Good video and I'm sure it wasn't any fun and I'm glad you made it down safely, but that wasn't a flash flood. That's a normal monsoon rain and runoff. Find a safe place and wait it out, they don't last very long.
You should have a talk with your buddies about looking back and not getting to far ahead of each other👌 a few times you were around blind corners from the rest of the group and woulda been SOL or you spilled or the ground gave way.
Choice vid, cheers from West Oz🦘🇦🇺🍻
I was driving into moab right after this storm. Never seen anything like it
I'm more concern of that rider on the squad bike , I remember due to rush, he didn't wear any protected gear. Rain with hail is like caught on the middle of a Squirt gun and airsoft cross fire