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If you aren't using a Dutch hammock, you haven't lived. I replaced my hammock this year with a Chameleon by Dutch, and I could not be happier. Thanks Dutch!!
I'm still a fan of the continuous ridge line after almost 3 years of using it. Using a mesh sleeve does help to keep things need and avoid any tangles I've learned.
I like the continuous ridgeline to protect the tarp a bit and to reduce the stress to the fabric, especially when hanging my DCF tarp. I can have an extremely tight ridgeline and a "medium taut" tarp in case of wind. I do use a snakeskin to pack it up. BTW, the ability to slide the tarp over is no small matter. Very nice. Thanks for the video!
Very timely. I'm debating this very issue with my new tarp. I also need guy lines. I've figured out to get your reflective lines, but there are so many bugs I don't know which to get.
I tend to use both, depending on the tarp that I am using. The single ridgeline makes it easy to switch between tarps and not have to change up what is in my pack from a previous trip. I prefer to use a line on each end if I know that I will be hanging in a tight spot, as I can make them work in that situation much better. If the hang spot is tight, you really don't need the lines to adjust much anyway. BTW: Stingers rock!
It seems like passing the continuous ridge line through the tarp loops (or D rings) would help support it more than suspending with shock cord on both ends. Am I missing something?
I like a continuous ridge line because I can pull a ridge line really tight and drape the tarp over the ridge line. This gets a really straight ridge without putting too much strain on the tarp itself. I can also hang a small light or other items on the ridge line.
Question for ya Dutch. My prusik knots on my continuous ridgeline often cinch down so tight I can’t hardly move them to adjust the tarp once I have the RL taut. What can I do to remedy this?
Or add a pull handle to the prusik. Have them on all of mine and end up adding more wraps to the prusik for a very secure bite that can be moved so easy.
I’ve tried both and tend to prefer separated ridgeline. As for the “speed” of setting it up... there really isn’t that much difference. If I’m hiking, backpacking or camping, I’m not tracking my seconds, I’m just enjoying the outdoors.
I use (and like) the Stingers with separated ridge lines. Less cordage and really just as fast, or faster than a continuous ridgeline, if I set my hammock up first. I just set the first end with about 6" coverage on the hammock which leaves 6" for the other end. Rarely does it need more adjusting, and it never tangles in the stuffsack.
I love the continous ridgeline. And I'm glad to have it. Same with the whoopie slings. The only problem is the expanse from ordering from Sweden and after a year of heavy use I need new ones 😀
Maybe you can buy a lot of the hardware all at once, pay shipping once and learn to make your own. It isn't hard to do and you could save some money too. My two cents.
I prefer to make my own hammock gear, especially the cord stuff. Amsteel and Zingit are really fun to work with. I wish I could come up with more projects to use them on.
How come you don't keep it exactly like you have it except put the tarp over the Ridgeline that way it's underneath and not as easily Tangled but you can still tighten and adjust the tarp?
Here in Florida the humidity is so high that you always have condensation on the ridgeline in the very early mornings. A ridgeline UNDER the tarp is just a conduit for that moisture to slowly drip water onto your face at 4:38 am.
It really comes down to personal preference and as Josh Sanders said below, it's good to experiment and see what works best for you. Personally I like the separated ridgeline better.
I use both, depending on the tarp and situation. Stingerz are a little easier to manage, just a little more time needed to line up with your hammock at times.
Sometimes where I camp...my preferred spot has trees too close to use a continuous ridgeline with all the hardware. So I use my form of the end tie out. But I prefer the continuous ridgeline.
You could do that. When it comes to hammocking, there are so many products and ways of doing things that it just comes down to personal preference and what works best for you.
Two reasons come immediately to mind. First, whoopie slings are long (8"-10" minimum), and could limit your site selection if the trees are too close. Second, you can't attach a whoopie directly to a tree, so you would still need something to wrap around the tree to attach them to. You could wrap the fixed end around the tree, and use a mini clip or something, but then the fixed end would need to be really long.
What cordage are you using for the prussic? A thinner cord for the prussic can help it grab more. Also, I think Zing-it has a little more grip to it than some of the other thinner cords. Another trick is to absorb some seam sealer into your prussic cord while it's not attached to anything. Once it dries, reattach the prussic and the silicone will help it grab a bit better.
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If you aren't using a Dutch hammock, you haven't lived. I replaced my hammock this year with a Chameleon by Dutch, and I could not be happier. Thanks Dutch!!
I'm still a fan of the continuous ridge line after almost 3 years of using it. Using a mesh sleeve does help to keep things need and avoid any tangles I've learned.
I like the continuous ridgeline to protect the tarp a bit and to reduce the stress to the fabric, especially when hanging my DCF tarp. I can have an extremely tight ridgeline and a "medium taut" tarp in case of wind. I do use a snakeskin to pack it up. BTW, the ability to slide the tarp over is no small matter. Very nice. Thanks for the video!
This makes sense, thanks for the suggestion
Love my zingit continuous Ridgeline with a Dutch mini clip and wasp. Thanks Dutch!
Your latest videos seem like you know exactly the stuff I've been mulling over in my head on what to buy.
Very timely. I'm debating this very issue with my new tarp. I also need guy lines. I've figured out to get your reflective lines, but there are so many bugs I don't know which to get.
Thanks Dutch. 🤠
I tend to use both, depending on the tarp that I am using. The single ridgeline makes it easy to switch between tarps and not have to change up what is in my pack from a previous trip. I prefer to use a line on each end if I know that I will be hanging in a tight spot, as I can make them work in that situation much better. If the hang spot is tight, you really don't need the lines to adjust much anyway. BTW: Stingers rock!
It seems like passing the continuous ridge line through the tarp loops (or D rings) would help support it more than suspending with shock cord on both ends. Am I missing something?
@@HuggyBearHikes I was missing one thing. With the line under the tarp there is potential for rainwater to run down the line and drip onto you.
I like a continuous ridge line because I can pull a ridge line really tight and drape the tarp over the ridge line. This gets a really straight ridge without putting too much strain on the tarp itself. I can also hang a small light or other items on the ridge line.
Agreed. Yet, like he mentioned, the line tends to get twisted easily. It can be a headache lol.
Question for ya Dutch. My prusik knots on my continuous ridgeline often cinch down so tight I can’t hardly move them to adjust the tarp once I have the RL taut. What can I do to remedy this?
Hello, I'm not an expert but try taking a loop or two out of your prusiks?
Or add a pull handle to the prusik. Have them on all of mine and end up adding more wraps to the prusik for a very secure bite that can be moved so easy.
Uh. What’s a stinger?
Dutch you make great gear my friend
I’ve tried both and tend to prefer separated ridgeline. As for the “speed” of setting it up... there really isn’t that much difference. If I’m hiking, backpacking or camping, I’m not tracking my seconds, I’m just enjoying the outdoors.
Amen.
I use (and like) the Stingers with separated ridge lines. Less cordage and really just as fast, or faster than a continuous ridgeline, if I set my hammock up first. I just set the first end with about 6" coverage on the hammock which leaves 6" for the other end. Rarely does it need more adjusting, and it never tangles in the stuffsack.
Stingerz all the way!
I still use a continuous ridgeline and a tarp sleeve. I just keep my ridgeline seperate from my tarp to avoid excess bundling up.
I love the continous ridgeline. And I'm glad to have it. Same with the whoopie slings. The only problem is the expanse from ordering from Sweden and after a year of heavy use I need new ones 😀
Maybe you can buy a lot of the hardware all at once, pay shipping once and learn to make your own. It isn't hard to do and you could save some money too. My two cents.
I prefer to make my own hammock gear, especially the cord stuff. Amsteel and Zingit are really fun to work with. I wish I could come up with more projects to use them on.
How come you don't keep it exactly like you have it except put the tarp over the Ridgeline that way it's underneath and not as easily Tangled but you can still tighten and adjust the tarp?
Here in Florida the humidity is so high that you always have condensation on the ridgeline in the very early mornings. A ridgeline UNDER the tarp is just a conduit for that moisture to slowly drip water onto your face at 4:38 am.
which is better
It really comes down to personal preference and as Josh Sanders said below, it's good to experiment and see what works best for you. Personally I like the separated ridgeline better.
I use both, depending on the tarp and situation. Stingerz are a little easier to manage, just a little more time needed to line up with your hammock at times.
Sometimes where I camp...my preferred spot has trees too close to use a continuous ridgeline with all the hardware. So I use my form of the end tie out. But I prefer the continuous ridgeline.
Why not just permanently affix a whoopie sling on each end?
You could do that. When it comes to hammocking, there are so many products and ways of doing things that it just comes down to personal preference and what works best for you.
Two reasons come immediately to mind. First, whoopie slings are long (8"-10" minimum), and could limit your site selection if the trees are too close. Second, you can't attach a whoopie directly to a tree, so you would still need something to wrap around the tree to attach them to. You could wrap the fixed end around the tree, and use a mini clip or something, but then the fixed end would need to be really long.
I can’t get prussic to bite well on Amstel. Any suggestions?
What cordage are you using for the prussic? A thinner cord for the prussic can help it grab more. Also, I think Zing-it has a little more grip to it than some of the other thinner cords. Another trick is to absorb some seam sealer into your prussic cord while it's not attached to anything. Once it dries, reattach the prussic and the silicone will help it grab a bit better.
@@JohnMury I ended up using 2mm mini blind cord for the prussics. It's good stuff.