Jeep TJ Dana 35 axle break at Rausch Creek
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ธ.ค. 2007
- went to Rausch Creek on 12/29/07 and decided to go to the tank traps first..on the way out of them the drivers side shaft completely sheared off leaving the wheel free to come out. Axle breaks at around 1:30, cant miss it
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It is amazing that there are people who own jeeps that think that you, I, and many others are stupid for driving it offroad. This is what jeeps are built for! Keep having fun, brother!
I did that with a launch box locker in the rear. Wheel slid out and lost my brakes when the drum slid off to. Used a hi lift to jack it up in the mud and slid the axle and wheel back in as I putted out of the woods. Don't care what anyone says its a jeep and a hobby, worth the money to me
that handy dandy winch on the front. then just drove it with the front axle out of the park.. had to keep jacking it up and pushing the wheel with the broken half of the axle shaft back in
Good time to go ahead and find a 44 to throw in that thing! Cool Jeep and great video!
those damn D35's haha
dana turdy five
Been there, done that. I got rid of my piece of trash 35 after I broke it a second time. I'm glad I at least got semi-float axles so I could limp back to the car trailer and not have the shaft fall out like the c-clip axles. haha
The axle was like "Fuck it, im OUT"!!
It happens. I had a 95 Jeep. I broke one going down the road @ 40 mph. It sounded like a shotgun going off. Next thing you know im 3 wheeling it down the road. Wheel, tire, axle & all slid out of the tube & bounced into the ditch.
@jeeptj02 Odd question ... but does it matter if the 8.8 comes from a crown vic, ranger or explorer? They all have the same bolt pattern and the crown vic comes with a coil rear suspension
@flecur08 The locker will definitely help control wheel spin. In this situation it could have gotten me up the hill the first try and not allowed as fast wheel spin on the drivers rear. As for strengthening the axle shafts and the stock carrier, i would have to disagree.
if you know other people with jeeps try to find a forum or a group and get used or spare parts from there.. i fixed my axle for free the next day, got the parts from a buddy who had spare axle shafts
at the time it was open diff, but i did have a lockright (lunchbox locker) in there at one point. im looking to do an 8.8 or dana 44 swap this summer.
Lockers would break jeep axles much easier. Think about it: In a high-stress situation on a jeep's axle, an open differential sends the power to the tire with the least resistance and cuts power from the tire that is stuck. This minimizes the axle stress. A locker forces the power to be distributed evenly to the free tire AND the stuck/jammed tire, creating heavy torque to move the wheel with resistance. This will snap an axle much faster.
Thank god u didn't break it in a parking lot bro! awesome :)
Jeep and their rock solid axles!!!
How do you fix it incase I come across this on the trail?
I think I know where they get their claim from, they are probably claiming that the carrier or other locker pieces are stronger than the carrier and/or spider gear pieces they are replacing, in that case they are correct. Those pieces HAVE to be much stronger because they will be seeing much higher loads than the open differential pieces would see.
i got the same warn kit. what size is that winch
@diddles123wtf
likewise, I put an 8.8 with a 4.10 in, wheeled all day at rausch creek numerous times after with no problems. Great axle for the price.
How do you know if its the axle shaft or spider gears? This happened to me today going up a hill just like that... I was able to put it in 4H and get home though (30 minute drive) in 2wd though my rear clunks a lot. I dont think its the axle because i didnt have much trouble in 4 but in 2 my rear clunks alot and i think its the spider gears.
o wow that's a good one, i've been wheeling before you were born
@jeeptj02
This happened to me in Costa Rica, I left it there and it's been there since 2005. I have revisited the Jeep last year with an ATV and the Jeep is overgrown with vines and moss and a tree branch(rather large to bend the roll bars) was on it..
I tried starting it and it ran. I will get it hopefully soon. Its on my property anyway, 180acres of jungle
Touche, I have 44's front and rear which are more than adequate for running 33's, and I've never had a problem. However, a friend of mine just replaced his 60 after it cracked last month in the North GA Mountains. 35's are a bit notorious for breakage though.
@flecur08 how do you figure with a dana 35? Please explain
what size tire/type???
What are D35s made out of, recycled plastic silverware? Those things really love to snap!
I thought the Apex came with a 44?
how do you like the 8.8? i have a d35 in my yj.. and its on 33s haha. i just made a little "emergency d35 kit" which includes a 2x4 and some ratchet straps so i can keep the tire on on the way home haha, i don't think it'll last long since i have a tendency for my foot to "slip" off the clutch. was the 8.8 an easy swap and how much did it cost?
yea i want to do an 8.8 swap...what happened to you, you snapped an 8.8 shaft or a d35 shaft?
i seen guys at rausch creek on the hill climbs behind the comp course , open front and locked rear had no busness being on that trail, ended up breaking a rear shaft and rolling down the hill and the shaft on pass side almost fell out completly. dude had no clue how to fix it
if you are referring to this video, it is not in canada. It is in Pennsylvania
dana 35 on 33's? were you locked in the rear? 4hi or 4 lo? what gear ratio 3.73? sorry about all the questions.
@flecur08 Your gut instincts are completely correct. A locker will not make the axle shaft any stronger, and while it does not make the shaft weaker, its has the potential (somewhat driver dependent) to put MUCH more stress on an axle shaft than an open differential.
Open differentials always spit the torque 50/50 between each axle, that is why breaking a single axle shaft in in open diff axle assembly is almost unheard of.
@Bkeytx Repairs were done by me and free. So you have a jeep, only to drive it on the road? Enjoy your poor gas mileage, comfort and ride.
@jeeptj02 how do you prevent this?
@jeeptj02 what did you do after that? How did you get home and stuff
repair bill totaled 20 for new fluid and i put in a spare axle shaft. thanks for your concern
@jeeptj02 Have you installed a SYE yet? That's another thing that will get bound up and snapped off in a shitty situation. I just got mine on last week (advanced adapters SYE / tom woods C.V. driveshaft) and it completely eliminated my driveline vibrations. And it allowed me to take off that shitty T-case drop too, which loosened up my tranny and almost completely eliminated my 2nd gear grind when cold. Magic!
is that the I6 or 2.5l 4
had to winch it out?
@l337pwnage true about the locker but what the heck are you talkin about with the open diff. when one tires looses traction, all the power goes to it. its never 50/50. and open diffs break single shafts everyday of the week.
@Bkeytx
that is what a jeep is made for .if your not taking it off road why even have one
Did the D35 happen to be locked? I am getting an Aussie for my D30 next week. So are you going to get like a super 35 kit or something?
I see you have the warn front bumper as well, I just got one and love it!
you mean a dana 44?
I plan on putting a ford 8.8 in mine as soon as i get some money
how did u get it out?
@jeeptj02 what did you do after that?
your only going to break it if its locked.. dont lock a d35 with tires bigger than 31s im not sure if these are locked on this vid, are they ?
@jeeptj02 i read in a jeep magazine, wether it was right, i dont know, but they stated that the locker would help control the spin of the tires and would streghten the axles slightly, sounds kind of like bullshit to me but it was a legitament magazine so i think it would be right. but a week axle is a week axle. locker or not, thats just my opinion
@sadiscore Great of you to figure that out AFTER it was stated so. You're intelligent. Everyone's impressed.
@jeeptj02 nice had extra parts layin around?
@TheBeedy A locker in a D35? and in 4-Lo? 4-Lo allows the engine to put more torque on the already weak D35, locking it is even worse.
I bought a 4 wheeler ATV for the off roading, its more fun I think, especially when ATV's are made for it, But hey, if you got the funds for repairs, have fun...
@flecur08 axles, in essence, are a torsion bar. They can twist pretty far before they break so it it very tough to build that much momentum with an open diff to overcome the maximum twist of the axle. Here are a couple good samples of axle twist and locker damage.
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Most lockers don't break axles through shear force, tho. Axle shafts, like any spring, only have a limited number of "cycles" before they fatigue and break. Lockers increase cycles & force.
none?
what did you break on it??
tell me about it
Good driving, just sucks that the D35 is so lame, what did you do to get back home? Just always wondered what to do if this happens to me.
what size tires you running? did you have many miles on the rear end? good vid though!
no they are goodyear mt/rs the problem that i couldnt get up was that the hill was all icy with slippery rocks and i just went through a foot of water,,i probably would have made it if my turdy-5 didnt break
@bkytex every aspect of a jeep wrangler is designed around off road capabilities. There's a reason you don't see Solid live axles under a ferrari. I've ridden 4 wheelers and dirt bikes and neither are as fun as driving my jeep.
@Righty736 no not really you need to change where the springs mount the gears and you should be good to go
wow, that thing broke like it was nothing !
@turbotechnique nope 35c that was the sahara model
@ilove79fords
the front axle did not break, and was never broken from wheeling. the rear is not affected by the steering being crooked.
the rear broke because the left rear tire gained too much traction while it was spinning. Causing the shitty dana 35 axle shaft to shear.
the stEERing was not coked it was COCKED. im very suprised you spelled brakes right. congrats
@jeeptj02 lockers acutally make the axles a bit stronger
My right your right everyone has a right to do whatever.
I have 35s on my yj and I snapped them the first trail day
they obviously dont suck that bad if they have enough traction in the ice and mud and wet rocks to break an axle shaft. Also ive never heard of the carrier bolt breaking before an axle shaft on a dana 35
@FordManREDNECKK yea thats why the acronym means found on road dead
Snap crackle pop!
bust out another thousand ! lol
@flecur08 Well I specifically used the word torque for a reason. Measuring horsepower requires a distance to be traveled, so you are correct when you say it unequally distributes the horsepower. TH-cam is not really the place for an engineering discussion, tho, lol.
I have managed to shear a pinion & a cross pin in in open diffs, but never an axle yet.
Theoretically, you could lift a tire and spin it fast enough and drop and break the axle, but you'd have to be an incredibly poor driver.
@jeeptj02 Thats right, Wrangler X, they are nice, and I can afford the gas, I dont worry about comfort and ride. been all over the country, its great.
Bkeytx wow looks like we got a mall crawler here
@TheUKTP Not necesary true, I have a video of my cousing braking his Open axle on a 35/12.5 R15.
owch, wicked trail
Wow you weren't even in it that hard and it broke
yeah i baby my 35 until i can get a 29 spline 8.25
Have fun at the mall with your Jeep dude.
Surprised mine hasn't snapped yet...
come on up, i still have the sled... you can take it for a ride
Those 35's snap like toothpicks.
it was actually a bad ass spot... camera angle is deceiving
Your right.
it cost me 20 for a new axle shaft and fluid. Well worth it
Very interesting facts, most Locker Companies say they increase your Axle strength, I agree with there statement, your changing out some Weak parts in your Axle like your Spiders gears for something Solid, a One Piece item, it was probably wish-full thinking on this driver that he could run 35's, I wouldn't consider 35's with a stock Axle, changing out to a 44 would have been better. Seeing how he broke his was very interesting, I see he was flooring it to get over and he Bounced.
Ugh @ 44's. That's what I had first on my 5.9 ZJ. I tore both of em within 12,000 miles. :(
The fun part in owning a Jeep us to break it and then fix it.
i got an 8.8 in the rear now. stronger than a d44
You need a wd21 Patfinder
thousand what??
not a thousand dollars, fixed the axle for free
however i did build a ford 8.8... total was near 1000
I'm laughing at FordBoyREDNECKK! lol broncos ain't shit when it comes to jeeps! IFS vs. solid Axle... Leaf springs with little flex vs. Coil springs and control arms... 2.9L V6 vs 4.0L I-6. I could go on and on and on....
lol what a hippe, trust me, canada's got enough wilderness
Actually I bought a 2013 Tundra thats fantastic, much better economically, and more reliable, also bought a nice 4 Wheeler, that made for the stuff people do with Jeeps.
Why does chevy and ford have to bash each other? Their both good trucks, why cant we just leave it at that.
yup
break it, fix it, build it better..
yeah i guess so just video surfing
your only going to break it if its locked.. dont lock a d35 with tires bigger than 31s
agreed
@TheBeedy
dont think 15 degree weather and barefeet would mix. lockers would probably break that axle much easier. Mashing, breaking, and wrenching is the whole fun... just bring the ladies along and get them dirty when you break shit. Babes can work too!
Good years suck. Theres a bolt inside the axle that should break b4 your axle breaks. dana35 aren't a bad axle but, 44's are better
@FordManREDNECKK oh wait your from the south you dont know what an acronym is