Besides my EDC, at night time, G3 with laser on the night stand. If I had that. Maverick 88 with #9 buck is also stashed on my way from the bedroom out to my living area. Short barrel 12 gauge is the most versatile firearm for size (pistol grip if you choose) and firepower, and be able to use slugs or shot, or both
Mossberg 500a, 3inch steel high velocity duck load, 100lb Pound Hound, backhoe, some sort of perennial. Save money on lawyer fees, and tax payers money. M4 for runners.
3 Things that should never have been a problem. #1. Worrying about a legal minefield while defending your or your loved ones life. #2. Have any expectation that a criminal has any right to life or limb during a break in. #3. Valuing the life of a criminal over that of the innocent. Right now... all 3 of those things are a problem and they never should have been!
@@chrisc9611 It already is that way... and it was caused by lawyers, literally spawning videos such as this one talking about issues like this. Are you a shill?
I hate that we've "evolved" into a society where criminals have more rights than the victims and people need to be so afraid of legal action. If someone is breaking into your home they gave up those rights.
in my area we have a large homeless population. we also have a lot of vacant houses. those hobos now squat in these expensive houses and are immediately the rightful tenants of that house up to and well over 4 months. the home owner has no right to evict them! CRAZY! not do the police have to power to do anything either. mind blowing how the criminal is treated during my lifetime.
That's unneccessarily cruel and partially wrong too. First, it's not about "mercy" or "deserving", it's about self-defense first and foremost, all consequences to the invader be damned. Second, protection of criminals is not the cause of crime being out of control. We really should stop dividing our society by statements like those.
@@antonk.653 You're right, it's the refusal to properly detain violent criminals while law enforcement resources are utilized more for traffic stops and monitoring everyone's movement.
I am 80 years old with nothing to lose and if anyone breaks into my home I will protect my wife, pets and self to the fullest extent. Its these type of laws that have ruined America with giving the bad guys and killers protection for their crimes and these crimes will keep happening. Our court system and laws needs a over haul. Thanks for the video but things need to change,
@JCL43 : 1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣% Agreed!!. (ER MD here). It's disgusting witnessing this (..Lack of.. ) 'Govt' has been weakening / fading our most basic, GOD given Constitutional rights, simultaneously dooming America + Free World into an absolutely senseless / absurd WWIII / Armageddon. May our Lord Almighty save our Human Species.. 😌💪🇺🇲🙏🙏🙏🙏
I’ve asked this before…. Why is there even any legal ramifications to using deadly force against someone endangering your life? Who are these prosecutors who go after the home owners? Shouldn’t we make efforts to remove those people from office?
They're called Democrats. Apparently USCCA tries to be politically correct by not mentioning that fact it's mostly Democrat prosecutors and Democrat state attorney generals who do this.
They are called demons, children of the devil or fallen angels as in Genesis 6:1 and they are everywhere. They ( but not all, ) are the democrats and the republicans, your neighbors and co-workers, and when these people die, they get the "shock" of their lives, when they find out they are not fully dead, but a ghost, trapped in limbo with nothing better to do than to go haunting.
As a single guy, I feel a deep obligation toward a civic duty to permanently dispatch anybody willing to break into my house. The balance is not the intruder's life verses my things. It is the intruder's life verses the lives of those in the next house he breaks into. The next house might be an unarmed family or elderly. If the burglar survival rate were to take a nose dive so would the burglary rate.
Also, keep your car remote next to the bed. The panic button will help. If your car is in the garage, beeping horns and flashing light will tend to make the intruder flee.
This is VERY Old School advice (1970s) that a police officer told my dad after someone tried to break into our house, and yes, my dad was a firearm owner. The officer said, something along the lines of: "Well, if someone breaks into your home at 2 am, and you shoot him dead...then there's only 1 side of the story to be told." I've always had that in mind... I am a woman who lives alone and I think I can thus pretty easily and Truthfully say that I was in fear of my life. If someone broke into my house...I will not shoot to injure...I will try my best to make sure that person leaves my home in a body bag. I would have a far more peace of mind knowing I killed a 'bad person' over the idea that if the guy lives, I might have to face being sued by him, or worry about what he will do if he goes to jail for a time, but then gets out holding a grudge against me. I Do Not want to live the rest of my life looking over my shoulder in such a scenario of a home invastion. I lock my doors and windows at night, have two large dogs that growl...Those are my only, 'Keep Out' warnings...and if someone wishes to persist in face of that...again, I am going to assume they would be willing to harm me for what ever reason is in their stupid ass minds for breaking in.
@@trenchantsometimes5149 Thanks. I would have said so earlier, but TH-cam hasn't been posting my notifications for over a week now...finally got a few of them today.
@@poultrydish I live in Idaho, we have stand your ground and castle law. IF ever, someone breaks into my home and I kill them...there will be No Doubt I was shooting to kill -- because I will unload the entire cylinder of bullets into the intruder. And the laws, plus the attitude of most people who live in my part of Idaho, won't blame me for doing it. Again, I am an older woman, (59 years old and only 5 foot 3 inches tall...with severe back injuries) living alone. If some man or even a woman, breaks into my house, I am justified in using lethal force to stop them because I would be in fear of my life in such a situation. And by Idaho law, I have the right to use lethal force to protect my person.
"Anything you say CAN AND WILL be used against you in a court of law". This is not just when you are being arrested. Prosecutors are looking for wins, not justice.
Except that you are wrong. A court OF law will never be involved with your case. Only courts AT law will prosecute you. You don't even know that you're under the jurisdiction of a corporation.
Actually, it's "[a]nything you say can and will be TWISTED against you to get me a win on my way up the political ladder to attorney general, then governor, and truth be damned."
11:00 I couldnt disagree more. My first instructor as well as a cop I know both said something along these lines. The guy who breaks into your place during the day when nobody is home or at night when nobody is home is after your stuff and they are just a theif. The guy who breaks in when there are cars in the driveway in the dead of night is DANGEROUS. they are there for your stuff but they clearly arent scared of a fight. A thief who is non violent will case your place and go in when you are not there.
I agree. If someone is "just a burglar", the last thing they want is a run in with the homeowner. If they break in knowing you are there, they are there for more than your stuff.
This. The only time that might not be true is if there is somehow no sign you are home - for example, your car is in the shop and you’re temporarily carpooling to work.
Seems like it's getting to the point where you might be charged for not offering the criminal a cup of coffee while they're breaking into our home and stealing our stuff.
Exactly! And b charged for not offering your wife or daughter to be sexually assaulted as well. “Why didn’t you use methods to calm down the situation and making the assailants shoot or stab you by offering sexual gratification to him/them? Why didn’t you do that? Besides, your wife is never a virgin anymore so it should not violate her sense of modesty. And your daughter, she’s more likely not a virgin either, maybe she has already had sex with multiple me, so, she should know that performing sex with the assailants should have prevented gory things from happening, you should not have been stabbed, mutilated or shot! Your honor, we demand that the house owner be sentenced to jail for the maximum years possible. Our client has suffered emotionally and mentally because of the failure of this father to offer his wife/daughter as a method to prevent the physical assaults.” Stupid? Ridiculous? Insane? But it’s already insanity………
Not in South Dakota. If they are in your home and armed you are empowered to protect yourself. Castle doctrine. Actually they don't even need to be in your house. On your property is good enough.
@@rangersmith4652 It's stupid tactics that gets one shot by home invaders. If one has to protect family members staying put isn't necessary an option. When somebody breaks into your home it is self defense. We know you're anti self-defense, seen your other comments.
It amazes me beyond words, how lawyers will go to extreme lengths to go after the person defending their home and property - and almost ignore the fact that none of it would have been necessary if the criminal hadn't gone there in the first place.
Its all about where you live in the south the guys dead and courts will back the home owner in other parts of the country its different. If the person is trying to get in and you shoot him drag him inside. You are only allowed to do what is necessary too much harm and you are in trouble. Who has time to plan "not to hurt a person too much"? If someone is prowling on your property they can argue he was lost or looking for help. Who knows what lawyer will come up with.
Why do law abiding citizens, have to fight the law system, harder then the bad guys? Why do bad guys have more protection under the law, than good guys?
False logic I wish people could get passed. They do not have more rights. They do not have more protections but they do have the same. It seems the base idea is that people who say what you said is that you want them to lose all rights. I personally agree that if someone enters someone else's house uninvited then that persons life should be forfeit (to the homeowner) but my personal thoughts dont make the law. They do maintain their rights and they are the same ones you have.
@@firstlast-fr1le Im not necessarily sure I believe that their life is forfeit. There definitely is a thin line between just being a stupid dumbass breaking in at night to find money or jewelry and someone breaking in because they're off the rails and looking for blood/violence. Problem is you don't know when someone enters the house what their intent is. The first things you should probably do when you know someone is in the house is, get armed, call the police bunker down, and make a lot of noise that hopefully they'll get spooked not realizing someone was home and gtfo.
@@mjf4394 All of that is very reasonable. What I mean by life is forfeit by the homeowner is it should be his call as to what is needed. not that he has to or should always kill. just what he thinks is best in the moment. There should be no charges filed (against home owner) by law enforcement once it is determined that the guy broke in. In the rare instance of the homeowner just going overboard and torturing or beheading/dismembering - that is another level and should be dealt with case by case. (ive never heard of it)
I agree with the entire notion of a Home Invader is putting his own life on the line by invading, but, the flip side concern is some crazy ass whack job intentionally inviting someone over, shooting and killing them just because they know they can claim that they came in uninvited. It's very important that we make damn sure we don't allow something like that to happen!
My safe room is my property line on 70 acres. If your trespassing your there to kill and torture then steal. I don't want to harm anyone so if you threaten me I believe you and will stop you. I will protect my property because that is my survival. Reason I am too old to run or fight and want to be left in peace. Fear tactics of government who protects criminals are just as bad as a murderer!
If you have to use deadly force on an intruder, NEVER tell the police or ANYONE that you intended to kill the person. "I knew I had to stop him because he was endangering my family." You STOP him but you never say that you intended to kill. That can change everything.
I was LEO for 25 years… I’ve seen the degradation of prosecutory attorneys degrade the last ten years. The poor officers have training and protocol that’s untenable and irrational given most situations….I was on the wrong side of training the last five years simply because I was using real world field experience versus officers with ten years on armed with revised training protocols… I was constantly told my experience was wrong … in retrospect my experience was right and their knowledge would get me killed. End story we are in a rotting society, and do what you need to do to survive, every situation is unique, your gut instinct is usually the best. Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six is real. Arm chair quarterbacks are a dime a dozen. Train your body and mine be wise… evade your enemy but be swift in protecting yourself if you need… I know of several officers who hesitated and paid with injury… Criminals lie and lie all the time it’s sad the local district attorney actually take their side but it’s real. I was caught at home in a situation where I did not have my gun and physical responded in kind to the felon… He had the audacity to say I beat him up when he attacked me… Fortunately the responding officers didn’t believe this fool. God bless
the clock is ticking till the table flips and people fight back. you sounds like the cops of old that had integrity. Todays cops have lost ALL respect or trust. Ever heard of Milgram Experiment from 1969?
You guys seem out of touch with reality that robbers and burglars are usually armed. They're more likely to open fire on the victim(s) than to spare their lives and leave. Such cases are becoming frequent and your advice is setting up your listeners for failure. I have coworkers at the medical center who lost their lives from robberies and burglaries. One former coworker encountered two burglars at his home. The burglars opened fire but missed him. Another coworker encountered a similar situation but was unfortunate. The burglars opened fired and struck him. He's still in ICU. Engaging with the goal of neutralizing burglars and robbers are inevitable. Anyone who enters into my home is a threat and should be treated as such. I don't see any practicality in your advice.
Cops are allowed to lie as well to make an arrest and persecute the innocent. It happens every single day. Based on videos I'm seeing of cops constantly lying and assaulting people and getting off Scott free, I am more likely to believe the person arrested than the cop.
I’ll say this once. Everyone should be able to defend their loved ones INCLUDING PETS, and possessions in their home, on their property or where there is imminent threat without being legally destroyed for doing so. I’m in Texas. Someone breaks into my house, it’s either a shotgun to the head or a bullet to the lungs or spine. Makes no difference to me. The outcome remains the same: perp is taking a dirt nap.
You can't just shoot them or you'll face felony charges. I'm in Texas as well. they have to have a weapon in hand or upon breaking into. Basically it has to look like aggravated robbery or attempted murder on their side . that's the difference between us having the stand your ground law instead of the castle doctrine. So it's really a gamble with your freedom if you decide to shoot him not knowing if he's armed. Me personally I would shoot anyways because these robbers nowadays ain't breaking in without being armed
@@krucial47 Texas isn’t a Castle Doctrine state?! That’s crazy. I have always just assumed it was. I live in Missouri (not St. Louis), and we are protected by Castle Doctrine here.
They can have the house, the car, all their contents, the kids, the wife. . . There, now the public record is complete and reality can take place, without a normal guy having said anything that would or could be used against him.
A burglar broke into a house one night. He shines his flashlight around the house looking for valuables when a voice in the dark says "Jesus knows you're here." Freaked out, he turns his flashlight off and freezes, but hears nothing more so shakes his head and continues. As he is disconnecting cables from the TV, he hears very clearly "Jesus is watching you." Startled, he shines his light around frantically looking for the source of the voice. In the corner of the room he spots a Parrot. "Did you say that?" he asks. "Yes," the parrot confessed, "I'm just trying to warn you that he's watching you." The burglar laughs a bit, "warn me huh? Who in the world are you!" "Moses." The bird replies. With a now humorous tone, the burglar asks "What kind of person would name a bird Moses?" The bird replies "the same kind of people who would name a rottweiler Jesus."
FUNNY BUT….really. I have a layered system. You might need 10 associates to breach my home. You upset me . I revised my field of Fire, lanes of approach, cover, loaded magazines, load &positioned kinetics, k bars and etc at bedtime.
As far as the "they only want stuff. They'll run if you tell them you're there." etc., I don't know how many security cam footage I've seen of home burglaries where the robbers are openly carrying guns. If they're coming in armed and ready, what makes you think they're going to run upon hearing "I called the police" or something? Maybe 30 years ago home burglaries were just about getting in and out quick with some of your stuff, but today I feel these criminals are much more prone to violence. The value of human life has diminished greatly.
Generally people only break into your dwelling for two reasons at two specific times. 1. During the day, they want your stuff. 2. During the night, they want you.
Security Cameras around the outside and a couple inside solves most questions of home defense and the story of the person entering without permission tells later. It worked for me. My answer to the Police was, "I do not care what he said, Lets Go To The Video". Thank You sir. You are welcome.
"If it wasn't for lawyers, we wouldn't need lawyers!" We have lost the path when someone protecting their family and home is the suspect. SMH....we have lost the way.
In all fairness, some people will commit a crime because they've been physically or psychologically tortured and forced against their will to commit the crime. Coercive persuasion is real.
There are many good lawyers. There are rotten ones, like criminals. There are some that pretend they know and don’t or just abhorrently lazy and some who are just repulsive. I met a few great lawyers and just lovable. I met one dumb one and one repulsive, ugh, ugh… my grandpa was a lawyer, my niece and soon a nephew. I pray they continue to be guided by their original principles and beliefs to help in the real sense.
I appreciate Mr. Grieve's comments about the effects of a legal shooting. An acquaintance of mine in California sat in jail for a year after he shot someone in self defense. When he finally went to trial, not guilty. But he lost his job, house, all his money and more than a year of his life.
When I took my CCW class the instructor told us you make yourself known, you tell them you are armed, have called the police, and they need to leave, all while still on the phone with 911 so it is recorded. This can be used a evidence that you told them not to come near you and can help you prove the point that they were not there just for you belongings if you have to use force.
That's a lovely story IF you happen to have time to call 911, and IF they bother to pick up instead of routing you to an answering machine. When the intruder is in your home, assume that he intends to do you harm, and do enough harm to him to stop him before he can harm you.
"Don't clear your house." I have an issue with this. If you KNOW someone is in your home, I totally agree. If you wake up at 0300 hearing glass break, you have the question of, "is it a burglar or just the cat?" In those cases, you aren't going to call the cops and barricade yourself in your safe room. In such a case (and I have been through this), I hand the phone to my wife and carefully go check out my home. For the record, it was the cat who knocked a glass bowl into the sink. As for announcing yourself, Massad Ayoob said to call the police, give them your details, then, while still on the phone, holler through the house, "You are in my house, I have called the police, and I have a gun." Massad's reasoning behind this was, (1) "You are in my house," this helps keep the guy from giving the story about how he thought he was in his buddy's house (which, incidentally, is in a completely different state or town), (2) "I have called the police" many people are actually afraid to call the police, and criminals know this. It also lets them know the cavalry is on the way, and (3) "I have a gun" this lets the bad guy know you are willing and able to defend yourself. In and of itself, this may lead the the bad guy leaving the premises. If it doesn't, it gives a good and reasonable argument for the homeowner to fire on the assailant. After all, it is reasonable to believe the assailant is armed and wanting to do you grave bodily harm if, even after your telling him you are armed, he still seeks you out. This info from Massad Ayood is found in his book, "The Truth About Self Protection."
@@Easy_Skanking That AND to demand the 72 hour rest period. Details get blurry when one’s fueled with adrenaline and not doing so could put your self defense claim in serious Jeopardy if you opt out.
Yep... the idiots with the "Protected by S&W" or "You come in my door, you better come packing" signs and the like are just that... idiots. Why are you TELLING them you have guns. When they come in... they will come in blasting. Let the fact you are armed, be a SURPRISE!!! By the time they realize it... they will be bleeding out on the floor. My only problem is having enough left over after my pit/rottweiler Mace is done... to be able to shoot :)
Never cooperate with cops nor lawyers, just tell your attorney suspect trespassed, attacked you, and you protected yourself... any other argument is pure hearsay and done to make you a reasonable man/woman... whenever you are expressing the truth or protecting your life do not be reasonable with cops and attorneys!
@@Easy_Skanking This is exactly right... tell them that your life was threatened, that you defended yourself, and that you will make a full report after talking to your attorney. Then SHUT UP. They may continue to ask questions, the correct answer is always - I have already stated that I will be speaking to my attorney before making any further statements. Don't be a dik about it, but you don't have to sugar coat it either.
Excellent well articulated and thoughtful presentation...bottom line..as a defender of yourself or present others...do all you possibly can to take action that eliminate the threat until no other legitimate option is available...I will always prefer the threat leaving b4 using any form of deadly force...but ???
It depends greatly on your location, where you reside, and what the laws are there. I'm in NC. We are a "Stand your ground" and a "Castle doctrine" state. If a home invader is busting down my door, I'm not obligated to allow him to enter my residence before I can use deadly force. I will meet the said invader with deadly force before this invader has the option to harm my family.
Lynwood Workman I have no idea how people live in a state like New York or other states where it is basically illegal to even own a gun much less use it. On top of that one cannot even use things like pepper spray, air gun, baseball bat, even a nail gun, etc., to defend yourself with. Anything that is considered something that you can do harm with by the authorities you can be prosecuted for if you defend yourself with it. One of the reasons why I left New York many many years ago and now live in the sane state of Florida where my full Constitutional rights are respected. Florida also has a "Stand Your Ground" law which may be even more permissive than many other states with the same law.
4) Don’t post what you would do if someone broke into your residence in the comments section of a TH-cam video. It’s discoverable and may be used against you in the future should you find yourself in court. Just a thought…
A prosecutor makes his living getting convictions; he'll stop at nothing to have the jury find you guilty of a crime if you shoot somebody--anybody. But if you decide to let the bad guy take your stuff, you can just file an insurance claim and replace it. Easy choice to make. If the baddy actually threatens you, do what you must. But if you run down the stairs and challenge him, that isn't defense, the prosecutor knows it isn't defense, and he'll make sure your jury does as well.
Rewine, you got that right. Nowadays what one says/types will get one into more trouble than one's actions. Never let the action be misconstrued as being planned in a situation like this.
This may ruffle some feathers, but so be it. Firearms training is one of those few areas in life where EVERYONE (who has the capacity to do so) should be striving to be ambidextrous as much as possible. I am ambidextrous in nearly all that I do, including firearms. I never believed in "weak side, strong side" and I trained accordingly in all things. When I heard Kevin say "I have a left handed shot so I need to get across the hall" that blew my mind a little. Why cross into the path of an intruder, rather than just training up your left side? Next time you all go to the range, or dry fire with the Mantis, everything you do one way, do the other. Itll pay life saving dividends for you one day.
I'll add one more. Learn the offset from your dominate eye, to your subordinate eye... at different distances. I can shoot either handed, but my left hand and eye are dominate even though I write right handed. I can aim left eyed, regardless of what hand I'm holding a handgun, or a rifle or shotgun for that matter... but that may not always be possible. When at the range, aim with your subordinate eye... and calculate the offset. For some people it may be minimal. But, for others, it can be substantial. Having the ability to put rounds on target with either hand, and with either eye, could make the difference between living... and dying.
@@jaynecobb1 not very many I would assume. I carry half the week lefty, and the other half righty. I also do at least 50 draw strokes each week on both sides with Mantis. It really blows my mind that many, many people only utilize half of their body effectively. Have a great day!
@@donf3877 great point, and I'm the exact same way you are in terms of being "cross dominant' (right hand/left eye). For rifle I practice switching from left shoulder to right shoulder in my sling, and for pistol I practice one handed switches consistently. WPSN has John Lovell's Pistol 3 course, and he focuses on these skills well in that course
@@jaynecobb1 there is a tendency for people to shoot at what they see as the threat. This boils down to that people get shot in their "good" hand more often than what simple bad luck would explain.
As a mom of 5 I have several means to defend myself. I can’t scoop up my kids and run to safety. We also live in the country so by the time the deputies got here what’s going to happen already has. My husband works part time at 911. We have a sign on our home that says, We don’t call 911. I was raised with guns and to shoot with accuracy. I wasn’t raised to be a defenseless female. My kids are older and know where our guns are, how to use them, and at what point it’s ok for them to do so. I’ve also told them if they can’t take the shot then just try to escape. I don’t want that to haunt them. They are only to do so if I can’t. Thankfully, we live in a community that watches out for one another. But if I went outside to scream for help I don’t know if anyone would hear me. I sleep with my keys on my nightstand to use the panic button to scare off anyone first. Then my 4 small dogs go nuts if anyone steps on our property. If that doesn’t deter them I sleep with my 38 under my pillow & I have a snake charmer between the headboard and my nightstand that doesn’t have a safety and is cocked and ready. I also have a 9mm hid in another location in my bedroom. Our AR is ready and hidden as well. I have 2 other 9mm’s hidden in other rooms that no one would ever know existed. After having a husband who has worked part time on weekends for over 20 years I wont be caught unprotected. Plus we have cameras I can monitor anytime. This day and time it’s up to us to make sure we stay safe. I pray I never have to use them but if it comes to my kids or them it will be them.
It's funny that you guy fear and prepare against home invasion, but maybe don't care much about the real thing that kill: smoking, drinking and driving/texting, speeding, obesity, etc. Sure, theses real statistics are not as sexy as a gun against a vilain. But the real vilain don't wear gun, it wear a spoon, a glass of wine, an Iphone and commute with your car on a daily basis.
You can get biometric (fingerprint) gun safes for well under $100 now. I don’t know about having guns out unlocked around kids (or their friends little brother that came over for the first time and found one).
This discussion is so nuanced, no one could really use this information to know what to do. If someone is in my home and is obviously there unlawfully to do some kind of harm, then, not knowing the intended level of harm that could be done to me or family, the intruder, if armed, would be shot....period. Any other action leaves me in potential physical danger.
I love that he defines what winning is to him. Most people have that "I wish someone would" mentality and not the "I hope I never have to deal with that but I am ready if it ever happens"
@@m.danielmills7091 Yes, it depends A LOT on the DA's thoughts/position on instances. It could be a clean shoot to everyone but the jury's thoughts about the prosecutor's case.
This is why it's so important to get the training and have a CCW license, even in a Constitutional Carry state. Over 80% of the training is about legalities, not to mention the fact that simply having that permit will likely make a prosecutor think twice about bringing charges.
@@paulis7319 In my firearms training classes I used to attend I remember 70% of it was spent on the legalities. By the time it was over, I learned what I THOUGHT was legal to do VS what was ACTUALLY legal to do would have landed me in jail. I would say that 90% of all new gun owners think like I did. Hell a large majority of gun owners period seem to have no clue about this stuff
If I could add one more thing to the conversation. It's important to distinguish between a burglar and a home invader entering for reasons other than theft of property. People should prepare for both. Most burglars try and break in when nobody's home for obvious reasons but the home invader that breaks in at night when the family is likely to be home is a different kind of criminal and you should treat them as a dangerous killer until you know otherwise. Somebody has to be pretty bold to break in when the family is home especially if they're by themself.
Yeah I ain't taking the chance it's just a junkie looking for stuff and not Richard Ramirez or BTK. You break into my home you left your rights at the property line. Castle Doctrine here says I can shoot to defend property too.
That is why I keep a questionnaire near all my exterior windows and doors. Just to make sure I am shooting the right kind of criminal breaking into my home. /s
We used to live in a society that believed in what comes around goes around. Now, criminals seem to have more rights than the people that they terrorize and get shot by. If a person CHOOSES to break into a home, they forfeit the rights to life and liberty by committing that crime. The fact that this is even remotely controversial is absolutely ridiculous
We live in the times of our 'representatives' struggling to define a woman so.... We know who is at fault and diverting our resources to nonsense and the people that let it happen.
You are absolutely right about having a plan. You need to decide today, before an incident happens what is important to you. I have no kids. That is not an issue. So my wife come first. I am second. Property is third. However, if I think based on my knowledge, training and experience, I can gain a better tactical advantage I will take it. I live in Texas. Nuff said.
Wise words from my cc instructor: a dead burglar can’t lie but if you’re going to talk to the police you should always tell the truth because the cops WILL find out eventually.
Almost 3 years ago, around mid 2019, I walked in on 2 guys robbing my place of business. (I am former US Army, '99-'04). At the time, (0 dark 30) I was doing maintenance and security. During the day I worked sales. The robbers broke in (around 05:30am-05:45am) to the business next door ((didn't trigger our alarms, but they were on our cameras when they entered our store)(the 2 stores were enter connected in the back), I was outside in my truck having a smoke break when I saw lights dancing around behind the registers (the lights were off in the store, and I had a straight line of sight into the store), I put my cigarette out, grabbed my rifle and walked in on them (loot in hand), my rifle (British .303) pointed at the robbers (they were close to each other). I called the police and the business owner. One officer asked me, "Why didn't you shoot them?" He then said, "You had every right." I didn't say a word until after I pulled my dog tags out from under my shirt, I told him I already have enough PTSD from OIF '03, I didn't need to add to it. I told the officer(s), they (the robbers) didn't appear to be armed, they already had their hands full, and they didn't approach me. The robbers were arrested and were taken straight to jail, evidence was collected, and I went to the VA for another PTSD evaluation. Once I returned to work, I received 2 letters from the court (one on each robber) stating that my statement + video and evidence was enough to charge them, and that my presence wasn't needed in court. No action taken against me, as I was simply doing my job and no one got hurt. The business was saved, which would have gone under if the robbers had gotten away with the tens of thousands of dollars worth of merchandise and cash they had in their hands and on the floor by the door they had broken into. 3 registers, 2 safes and many valuable items recovered. I live in a small town with a high burglary rate, in an open carry state (now a constitutional carry state). I'm glad I was ready, and I'm also glad I didn't have to pull the trigger. Keep your head on a swivel guy and gals, pay attention to your surroundings, evaluate your situation, and keep yourself protected. But most importantly, don't pull that trigger unless you have to.
In NC someone running after breaking in or being threatening or just committed physical harm can be considered regrouping, and allows for a valid shoot. Im sure you would have to lawyer up with one with CCW experience but it is lawful. Not saying I would do it.
Relying on law enforcement for me isn't a good option. I live out in the county and it would take them 15-20 min to get to my house if they were available. In this day and age depending on the government for safety or protection is not a good idea and creates a false sense of security for many people. People need to train and have a solid plan for when the police never show up.
Don't think you're going to get quick response in the city either...they get tied up on arrests. Now if you're in a quiet, wealthy burb the cops are likely a block away with the mike in their hand.
You want to place yourself in the best tactical position to repel the invader(s), you know your house, the bad guys don't. NEVER give away your position...once you do, the bad guy can very easily start spraying lead in your direction. Gun fights are not about being fair, they are all about surviving. Make the statement to the police, that you had to fire to defend your life, then ask to be taken to the hospital, and contact an attorney before any conversation with the police.
Anyone comes into my house without my permission, My families life and mine is in danger. Nobody is safe until the intruder has been eliminated. I’m not assuming they don’t intend my family any harm. That would be ignorant.
Exactly. That’s how the courts should look at it. At any moment he can do harm to you or your family. Why should a law abiding citizen in his own home have to potentially wait until it’s too late to take defensive action?
If you are breaking into a occupied home, you are planning bad things, regardless you entered someone else’s home you have no right to do so even police can’t without probably cause or a warrant. So if you enter without permission and break in, then you have forfeited your rights, life, and should be prepared for the results.
Bingo...anyone who enters or is in the process of entering an occupied dwelling UNLAWFULLY and BY FORCE should be considered an immediate and LETHAL threat to the lawful residents of the home nationwide. Fortunately in my state the LAW explicitly states this and provides not only immunity from criminal prosecution but also civil liability for the lawful residents of the home. This is the essence of the Castle Doctrine. Once the bad guy "remembers an urgent prior obligation" and exits your home post-haste, you no longer have any reason, either ethical or legal, to fire upon the retreating bad guy UNLESS he's retreating while firing at you. Do not pursue, that's the job of the police. Give a good description of the bad guy/guys to the cops and description of the getaway vehicle, but do NOT continue the engagement outside the home IF it started in the home.
@@animeyhem9780 exactly. Only if he leaves and is running away should you not be allowed to use deadly force. But inside your home, regardless of what he’s doing at that time, he is a threat. Even as a DA I hate the fact that prosecutors and cops investigate and nit pick what took place to determine if the guy wasn’t “technically” a direct threat at that exact moment, and if you had the ability to flee. Castle Doctrine should be federal law. If the guy is in your house burglarizing you, he should automatically be deemed a threat to your life. What state do you fortunately live in? That’s exactly how it should be. No criminal or civil protection should be awarded a burglar.
You missed, "You should never fire a warning shot." If you are within city-limits, you are guilty of Discharge Within City-Limits. You fire to do violence, in self-defense, or don't fire at all.
I am not going to do anything. Capone the 80-pound pitbull on the other hand is a different story! The sign on the fence reads "know your blood type, it will help EMS".
Such signs are funny, but will be used against you in the court of law. "Exhibit A; the homeowner knew the dog was dangerous." Not saying I agree with it, but due to the litigious society we live in today, it's a bad idea.
@@seanhoude Yep and I will sue them for traumatizing my dog. We will see who can afford the better lawyer. Man, you got to love our legal system. Hell, I think I will sue their parents for giving birth to them.
Ive got a 52 lb Malinois that hits harder than a 100lb German shepherd. And she’s really not into strangers in her space. Especially if I give a simple command.
I would be destroyed if the bad guy shot my pitty. The one time he woke me up with a low growl, then jumped off the bed to investigate, I was right behind him, armed. He's my alarm, I'm the security system.
#1. If you do not stop the intruder(s), they will do it again to you, or another person or family. #2. Use the most efficient means to take down the intruder(s). #3. Never talk to the police after the incident. Call a lawyer. The incident would not have happened had the intruder(s) not started it. Most likely they will have a criminal history, and most likely you will not have a criminal history. If the family sues you and wins, break into their home and steal enough stuff to get back what you lost.
The truth is you don't know what a home invader's intentions are when he enters your home. You damn well better treat it as a threat to your life and act accordingly until you absolutely know differently.
You still can’t shoot anyone who enters. You still must use critical thinking and identify your target. Is it a new neighbor who thinks they are trying to get into their home?
@@JT-ht6fk, if you are in reasonable fear of immanent peril (meaning loss of life or limb to yourself or to someone in your immediate protection), you can act in self defense. It MIGHT mean you can shoot anyone who enters and it might not.
@Shy Brotha Speaks you are not posting scenarios, you are posting make believe. I have worked thousands of burglaries and none, not even one involved a situation you described. They all involved criminals intent on stealing or much worse.
@@JT-ht6fk The castle doctrine in Texas presumes that using force is reasonable and justified when another person: unlawfully and with force enters or attempts to enter your habitation, vehicle, or work-place; or attempts to remove you, by force, from your habitation, vehicle, or work-place; was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery. The law says nothing about them needing to have a gun in their hand. Armed or not, breaking into someone’s home is forceable and in many cases, violent.
I live in GA. I’ve seen 2 of my close friends have severe legal consequences for self defense. (Yes, in their own home). 1 serves 8 years in prison before she got parole (and that was with witnesses). Think very carefully before you pull that trigger. If the intruder turns out to be unarmed: you’re more screwed than you can imagine. You’ll be forced to take a plea of voluntary manslaughter; ( if youre lucky). Either way, your life, as you know it, is over.
I seem to remember hearing many successful and well respected Firearms Professionals cautioning that we should be leery of "experts", that use terms like: Always / Never . Every home-defense situation IS different. Safety / Knowledge / Proficiency
The problem is the state losing objectivity and using political pressure on the courts to enforce a media-created definition of who is "bad" and who is "good".
It's the BAR Association that's the problem, they took over the USA Court houses over a 100 years ago and pretended they are the masters of Law when in fact no Attorney has a License to practice actual Law in USA, instead Attorneys practice a private society BS called Legal Codes that are their private interpretations of Law!
I agree that family, even pets, come before property. That said, if I have a reasonable chance of stopping a burglary/robbery/home invasion without endangering my family, I'll take that chance every time. I consider my property a part of my life. I had to work hours and hours and hours to get the money to buy that computer or big-screen TV, or whatever. It is a part of my life they are taking when they steal my possessions. I know the law doesn't always back me on that, but the law is wrong. Just like they used to hang horse thieves, we should recognize that a person's hard work to acquire material possessions is as important as anything else.
The reason horse thieves were hanged was not because the owner worked hard to get them; instead it’s because the horse was needed in order TO WORK! That’s why horses were so valuable. Just saying!
To me home defense means protecting my home...all of it! Family and property. I have the right to not be a victim. I don't want to be in a gunfight and I don't want to take a life but in the end it's the bad guy who put themselves in this situation, not me!
I understand what you're saying. Let's look at this longer term. You have a duty to your family to be alive and present for them. Should you actively go out and confront a burglar to protect your stuff, you have the possibility of scaring them off; you have the possibility of getting into an altercation where shots are fired and you both get wounded; you may shoot and kill the perp, or they may kill you and seek vengeance on your family. Only in the first scenario can you count on being alive and present for your family. In all the other scenarios there's a strong chance you will be away from them for an extended period of time, if not permanently. If some fool's in your house, announce your presence, tell them you're armed and the police are on their way. If you have homeowners insurance, let them take your property! You can replace that with a phone call. Institute better security protocols so that your home is less likely to be a target, learn from the experience. If the fool decides to play stupid games and come after you or your loved ones, (who are not replaceable), then give him the firearm, bullets first. Don't risk the future of your family needlessly over a handful of valuables.
@@kevinm.8682 again, it has nothing to do with a handful of valuables. It has everything to do with not being a victim. Of course you don't want to take foolish chances but you cannot be passive either. If a burglar has the stones to break into your home when you are there then you are part of what he is after. This type of burglar is often a thrill seeker and that need is progressive to maintain. These are the one that become racist and killers too often. A peaceful resolution is great but often not in the cards. Don't be a victim, the life you save may not be your own. Be prepared.
@Shy Brotha Speaks nobody breaks into a house and steals a pencil. However the key words here are you break in, this automatically puts my family at risk so yeah it would be a real good idea if you left in a big hurry
@@kevinm.8682 Agreed. At night I will remain in my loft, let them know I am there and armed, and hope they're not stupid enough to start up the stairs. After that, I guess all bets are off.
Letting a burglar know where you are allows him to use deadly force against you. You don't want to regret that decision. God, I'm glad I live in Arizona.
It's a roll of the dice like they said. Most times they will leave but if they're crazy enough and want to target you /find you since you'll know where the valuables are then announcing yourself is taking away an advantage.
One night me and my boyfriend took our Ambien 10 mg to sleep. And we slept thru our neighbor's brother shooting tru over front window into our back windrow. One bullet through the China cabinet and one bullet through the wall, and three barking Chihuahuas dogs. Every door in our house was open the guy thought we were hiding his wife. My boyfriend has three guns in between our mattress it would have been a shoot out and all of us would have been died. Hahaha. Ambien saved our lives.
This is really good advice and I understand his point about regret. The problem I have is when do you know the bad guy has actually left and how many? Getting your weapon, calling 911 and getting behind something is a lot to do out of a dead sleep. I sure as hell am not announcing to the perp that I am armed and to leave the wife and I alone. With kids that's a tough call. Not macho at all, but pretty sure it's better to be aggressive and not passive in that case and be over one way or the other.
@@bowtieguy85 how many times have you had to do this? I'm an old woman in a remote part of the US, and I've never had anyone except a lover come into my house that I wasn't expecting.
If someone breaks into my house I'm not assuming nothing!!!! I'm not assuming they are there for just material stuff!! They are there to harm me and my family plain and simple!!!! I was born and raised in Texas and I will protect my family at all costs!!!!!
If someone breaks into my home, I am not letting them know where I am. The element of surprise could be the deciding factor whether or not you live or die.
If I don't protect my livestock, farm equipment, and the like, then my family would fail. Some call it property, I call it livelihood, and will protect it all anyway I can.
They probably aren't after your livestock and farm equipment. They're after stuff inside your home (cash, guns, jewelry, ect), your wife, and your daughter. That's the world today.
@@Enjoyer.762 Just last year the neighbors down the way had a tractor, 3 implements and a sidexside stolen. Cattle are taken around here on a semi regular basis. How do you know what is in the heart, mind, or stomach of the criminal? Maybe in suburbia or disgusting cities what you say is all there after, but here, folks are just as likely to want what I pointed too. No disrespect, we live remote enough that if you don't have a 4x4 or horse you aren't making out here unless you walk and the nearest public road is 5 miles South and a creek crossing. People get hungry when they are lost or strung out.
It's terrible that this nation has devolved to a point that defending your home and property has become a liability for the homeowner/"good guy". Our values have seriously deteriorated when we're supposed to accept someone breaking and entering and hide from them while they take what they choose of your life's work and if we do take action against them there is the distinct possibility that we as "good guys" will end up in worse trouble than the perp.
The value of a life is generally greater than your property, but the bigger issue is shooting someone after the threat is eliminated or if there was no alternative means of stopping them, or recovering the property, though state laws do vary. For example, say you shoot an injure a person, they are on the ground and you finish them off... you may have just committed a murder. You should in principle do the minimum necessary to stop the threat or crime, see local laws for specific details. Plus Even more important... you may not know if the intruder is armed... you dont want to get you, or your family/friends shot if you can avoid it.
@@timthorson52 I wholly disagree that the life of a criminal is of greater than property, mine or anyone else's. These criminals do nothing positive for our society, they add no value to our lives or to society other than perhaps to keep insurance companies in business and people employed in jails, law enforcement and the courts. They go through the system time and again only to re-offend and generally the level of crime escalates. The rate of recidivism is incredible. Meanwhile we live in fear of them and are their prey. They certainly have no concern for the value of my family's or my life. Whoever came up with the idea that the life of a criminal has value to anyone other than him/her self, and perhaps their family, has never been harmed by criminal thugs or lives in some Utopian dreamworld. Where I live if someone breaks into your home you have the right to shoot them whether they are armed or not if you are in fear of your life. If someone has used enough force to break into my home I am automatically in fear of my life because assume they are willing to use force against me in order to steal my property. I have no guarantee they won't harm or kill me or my family if I don't defend myself. Castle doctrine is a very old legal principal and applies. I wouldn't shoot any more than required to stop the threat but a 12 gauge doesn't usually leave a criminal alive after a 5 or 10 yard shot and it's my belief that it requires at least two shots to stop a drug crazed criminal and these days more often than not criminals are using drugs. If they should expire before authorities can be called and for EMS to arrive so be it. Life choices have consequences. I agree that finishing a perp off after the threat is stopped is a bad idea for legal reasons and little else. One thing every law abiding citizen should so is watch the video called "Don't Talk to Police". If you do talk to them you may be in more trouble than the criminal who threatened your life while robbing you because our legal system is rigged against law abiding citizens who defend themselves, more now with anti gunners in high places than ever before.
@@pyromedichd1 I'm going to generally agree with you. Except to that first part about them having no value. We don't know the circumstances of other people's lives, why they are commiting a theft, whether it's desperation or as a career. If you are in fear of your life its okay to defend yourself and potentially your property, but perhaps one should avoid seeking the fight and instead threaten them with law enforcement or other things first before jumping into a gunfight with a potentially armed intruder. As they pointed out while you don't necessarily want to expose your position it may be a good idea to warn the intruder so you can give them the chance to withdrawl.
@@timthorson52 IMHO, the circumstances of people's lives is 99% a matter of choice on their part and a sorry excuse for stealing the property of others. There are help wanted signs everywhere you look, plenty of jobs for anyone willing to work. Everyone in this country has the opportunity to get a High School degree. There are plenty of construction jobs where people can start as a helper and learn a trade. I grew up in a poor family, poor enough that we ate oatmeal for dinner plenty of times because we couldn't afford anything else yet my dad always stayed employed, worked as many jobs as necessary to be sure Mom, my sister and I had food and a roof over our heads. In other words people who choose to steal, for the most part, create their own circumstances. Far too many people today feel entitled to have what others work for whether they work for it or not. Look at the number of times we see stores raided by gangs of thugs stealing what they desire with no consequence. Our current legal system seems to make a game of it with no cash bail and releasing criminals back on the streets to offend again. Plenty use drugs or other intoxicants by choice, not because someone forced them to become addicts. No matter what we all pay hefty taxes to support people with food stamps, welfare, WIC and many other government (taxpayer) funded programs so there's no excuse to steal. If someone breaks into my home it is them who sought the fight, not me. I was living in my home peacefully enjoying what I've worked for. If they happened to try to break in and I became aware I might yell a warning to stop but if they continue the outcome is on them. If they are already in my home it's game on, no warning. Why give them a chance to return another day when I am perhaps less prepared, asleep in bed or not home?
I have 40 years living under this dome and I've never think or try to breaking into nobody's house, cause i know is wrong i got no right to do so, and i was raised with values....
100 percent Disagree! Winning is absolutely blowing away the bad guy. He broke into my house, with me and my family in it, he absolutely deserves to die. Period. If he’s dead I don’t have to hope he doesn’t hurt me or my family, he cannot repeat offend, and a message gets sent to the world about the wisdom of breaking and entering! AND you have just made the world a better place for everyone still living in it! Obviously my first priority is to keep my family safe, but once that’s done to the best of my ability, then it’s time to end that guys life. Period.
Best advice for home defense....have security layers: 1) Home security system/cameras (at the minimum signage indicating there is one) 2) Lighting around the house and elimination of any hiding spots (vegetation, yard waste, fencing, etc) 3)A dog (or choice early warning system) 4) Reinforced locks, door jams, hinges 5) A firearm...this should be your last line of defense, if none of (or all) deterred the criminal from still attempting and gaining entry into your home, then God be with him and you. It is not an easy thing taking a man's life.
I should not have to spend a zillion bucks on those things when my .30 carbine, AR or pistol would be a more cost effective "home security system". Not all of us are millionaires. Got it? Comprende? I could come close to affording that stuff (but really can't) and what about people in poverty? Maybe you can donate some high tech stuff to families in need? Seriously, some of you people amaze me. you can't think deeply enough I guess.
@Philosophical Opossum where we live, guns are popular. They are part of a family’s traditions, a tool, an asset. I have no compassion for a home intruder. Have I killed a man? Nope. But I’ve had to put animals down. Animals that are respected and have been cared for around the farm. I believe that is a much tougher pill to swallow than putting down a would be attacker who invaded my safe space, my home. Because of this mentality, we don’t have home invasions. Criminals know the chances of survival are low.
I just remembered watch what you say on this subject on ALL social platforms. My CCL instructor as well as a USCCA rep and lawyer told us this. What you put in digital print is out in the public domain pretty much forever. Should you unfortunately be put in the position to have to shoot someone in defense, your statements could be used by the prosecution in a criminal or civil case. I'm preaching to myself also 1st. You must be as skillful with the law as you are with your weapon. Be safe out there.
It also helps if you encrypt and never use your real name online. Which used to not only be common sense, but it was cringy to not come up with your own unique pseudonym... then Facebook normalized associating social media activity with your real identity. Stupid stuff.
4. Never call the cops if you live in a remote area and there are no witnesses. 5. Own a backhoe and have a bag of lime on hand. 6. Be sure to remove burglar's cell phone and drive it to a remote location, miles away, and throw it into some deep bushes or woods after wiping prints off of it. Do not remove the battery. 7. Have a nice steak dinner and reward your best friend (s) for barking and letting you know before he got in. 8. Have a night cap and rest, things to do tomorrow.
@John McGee You over estimate cops, and probably don't understand the one rule. Only one person can keep a secret. Keep your mouth shut, lawyer up, and remain calm. You're right about one thing, there's a whole lot of idiots out there. Like folks who put their fate in the hands of some loser that took a year of half day classes three times a week to get the shittiest job in the world. You're a sheep, go bleat somewhere else.
I heard from a security professional to sleep with your car keys handy and if you hear something suspicious, set off the panic/alarm. Of course that would be while you're getting your other home defense ready. Sounds like a good idea.
@@ChiakiNanami736 your phone and living room tv or stereo might pull the same effect of course at full volume if you can bluetooth too it but I mean that complicates calling the clean up crew after ….. altho an in home panic alarm like a train horn would wake the whole apartment building maybe even the block in smaller city’s
@Ian actually you can install remote alarms easily even train and or boat fog horns .... I have a pa horn under the hood of a 93 ranger that almost makes your ears bleed within 30 feet
I am 73, live alone, in final stages of copd. I had an invasion two months ago and i broke at least three of your three rules. I heard him enter, ( I had been asleep), I left my bedroom, which you could not call a "safe" room in any case. Two things I needed were in the living room, with the intruder. One is my phone, the other was my pistol. I had to get the police and did not want to give him my gun. I yelled in my best army sergeant voice and was stomping towards him wearing only my shorts. A fat ugly old man coming at you can not be what he probably expected. He turned and ran out, I then almost had a personal accident. The police did a trespass on him so I was covered by this state's "stand your ground" law. They caught him couple weeks later on another invasion.
Massachusetts is a retreat state. Well I'm 72, disabled, and alone. I've had 2 hip replacements and 3 knee surgeries in the last 15 years. I'm also diabetic on insulin and use a cane to get around. What am I to do if a bad guy invades my home at 3 am ?
A) is probably true. B) doesn't take into consideration that most criminals are absolutely cowards and just want an easy score. Odds are in your favor that as soon as a bad guy realizes he's blown, he's gonna run and never come back. I would imagine that B) changes some if it's a gang related thing, I don't have a lot of experience with that side of things. Just one mans thoughts on it. Take it for what it may be worth. :-)
While I agree with you that it is infuriating and I would love to stop the crime spree, the attorney made a very valid point. I am not going to ruin my life by spending years in court for defending my stuff. Like he said, that all changes if the criminal decides not to flee. The criminal will lose if I am forced into that situation. The decision to pull the trigger will be made before the criminal gets within arm's reach.
A home invasion in the middle of the night, IMO, is an attack on the security and well being of the residence. Why should a home invader have any rights what so ever? This person(s) have decided that they are above the law. To end this type of behavior, anyone that thinks of doing this should understand that they forfeit their rights as citizens of society. I don't pretend to know their motive for breaking into my home, I do know that this is an attack on the safety of my family. That attack must be stopped, immediately and decisively.
@@GB-zi6qr Unfortunately yes. We pay to prosecute and sometimes defend them, then to house them. I agree with my Sheriff on saving the tax payers money on getting enough training you end it all right then and there. The victims of a home invasion have more rights than the criminals here in FL. Both Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground down here. Not kill with impunity, you just end any conflict then and there.
Tbh any lawyer worth their weight in salt should be able to redeem you in court based on this comment. It is a reasonable attempt to your health and safety if someone breaks into your home at anytime during the day, but especially night.
Agreed. The fact that the 3rd Amendment wasn't "Stand your ground/Castle" shows that our founding fathers believed the 2nd Amendment should have been enough...they are probably be rolling in their graves with how insane our country has become.
SMH...I've seen these criminals come back to the same house which ultimately ends up with force being used. I'm not looking over my shoulder and waiting for them to come back. I don't like revealing my location and giving up my element of surprise
Bottom line is it's harder for a homeowner to defend themselves w/out repercussions than it is for the criminal (and his/her family) who did the crime!
I dated this antigun lady for a time, and once she asked me "if you're gonna carry, are you mentally ready to take another person's life, even if it is to save yours?", and to this day I say NO, obviously NO ONE is prepared for it, she argued that -somehow- the police and military were the only ones "trained" for that… Dang! There is no training in this world that will get you ready to take someone's life, even if you're military or police. It is like a stain that cannot be removed, like a wound that would never heal.
If someone broke into her house armed with a gun and threatened her or her children she might think twice, NO ONE is prepared to take a life not even Police it's something they try not to do only if 1 A member of the public was at risk of been shot. 2 Was his or her partner was at risk of been shot. 3 was that Police officer at risk of been shot, then they are justified in taking the shot, and it is a body mass shot, he may live he may not. Luck is not on his side
Here is the problem with an artificially constructed scenario. In reality, you rarely know whether the bad guy knows that you're there or whether he knows that you know he's there. Always put self defense first. That way, you're prepared for every scenario. Then you can decide to use statistics to your advantage and scare home invaders off by telling them your presence and readiness for defense.
@@Thejoeordinary1 Any time, they could be coming for both. I've had tons & tons of incidents of both at any and all times, from common street goons to corrupt police officers. Canadians cannot legally use anything for self defense except our own bodies, and I'm not a very big guy.
Spent 27 years dealing with the aftermath of violence in a non- LE capacity. I know the damage a handgun can do. That's why I am defending my house with an AR. This guy's advice only benefits people who survive the encounter.
@@niksatt4843 better yet a 300 blackout in a 9inch barrel ar with a small can. Quiet enough to knick the edge off but still traveling fast enough to penetrate body armor
@@Aikano9 Agree. Just point and deliver. No specialized preparation required. Just a little cleanup in the house needed afterwards. Insurance claim filing.
TIP: You need a good quality deadbolt (grade 1 or 2) WITH 3" or 3.5" screws in the strike plate and hinges. Otherwise most doors can be easily be kicked in. 😉
Make your house as hard as possible to get in, force them to make a lot of noise to get into your house and give you as much time as possible to prepare before they get in. Most people will give up if it's too hard. Good air horn will also make them think twice seeing it will draw attention as well, seeing alarms normally only go off after they are inside.
One thing I want to add to this list is to ALWAYS give your address to dispatch first before describing what is going on. This way if you get cut off they at least have your address.
Unfortunately, many 911 operators have a list of questions that they insist you answer before they will take any information you want or feel the need to give them.
@@brxtmp106 Doesnt matter what "list" the 911 operator has. Give the address first. Everything is being recorded so if the call is disconnected, they have that info. Also, its not the persons (who is calling 911 for help) responsibility to follow a "script". The person only has one job and that is to relay the necessary info to get help to the location ASAP. Some lawyers even say be as brief as possible - location, incident, help needed (fire, rescue, police, etc), and then hang-up.
I understand the idea of the "least harm necessary" idea. However, if you don't end this in your own home, the invader now has the ability to do this to someone else in their home.
One thing about # 2: one thing we used to teach people WAS to shout you are there, 911 has been called, and you WILL defend yourself. THEN don't let them see you if at all possible. If you had a family plan (as all families should) THAT is the moment your kids are joining you and whomever else to either hunker down or use an established escape route. It may scare some folks, but it generally tended to work amd we apprehended a LOT (!!!) of bad guys.
They are us because my son and I are waiting for them on the other side of the door with our hands in the surrender position. The only thing we're saying is take whatever you want just please don't hurt us.
VOTE BELOW: What is your FAVORITE home defense weapon?
Besides my EDC, at night time, G3 with laser on the night stand. If I had that. Maverick 88 with #9 buck is also stashed on my way from the bedroom out to my living area. Short barrel 12 gauge is the most versatile firearm for size (pistol grip if you choose) and firepower, and be able to use slugs or shot, or both
Mossberg 500a, 3inch steel high velocity duck load, 100lb Pound Hound, backhoe, some sort of perennial. Save money on lawyer fees, and tax payers money. M4 for runners.
10.5" AR with red dot, light, sling.
The one at hand when I need it.
Probably a toss up between my 590A1 or my AK47 for runners.
3 Things that should never have been a problem. #1. Worrying about a legal minefield while defending your or your loved ones life. #2. Have any expectation that a criminal has any right to life or limb during a break in. #3. Valuing the life of a criminal over that of the innocent.
Right now... all 3 of those things are a problem and they never should have been!
Most politicians are criminals so it makes since that they look out more for their own.
Litigation has totally screwed up our justice system...
It's not my fault mentality and the lawyers get rich..
You should have way more like for this truth.
If not for lawyers, it would probably be that way.
@@chrisc9611 It already is that way... and it was caused by lawyers, literally spawning videos such as this one talking about issues like this. Are you a shill?
I hate that we've "evolved" into a society where criminals have more rights than the victims and people need to be so afraid of legal action. If someone is breaking into your home they gave up those rights.
We're not afraid of legal action at my house, because it isn't illegal to put our hands up and beg for mercy.
@@bowtieguy85 Good luck with that. If you're white, the government will NOT prosecute your killers if they are black.
@@taraswertelecki3786 killers? Were not talking about killers.
in my area we have a large homeless population. we also have a lot of vacant houses. those hobos now squat in these expensive houses and are immediately the rightful tenants of that house up to and well over 4 months. the home owner has no right to evict them! CRAZY! not do the police have to power to do anything either. mind blowing how the criminal is treated during my lifetime.
here in CA, they just want you to crawl to a corner in a fetal position.
Anyone who breaks into a home does not deserve mercy. Arguing to protect criminals is 1 of the reasons why crime is out of control.
That's unneccessarily cruel and partially wrong too. First, it's not about "mercy" or "deserving", it's about self-defense first and foremost, all consequences to the invader be damned. Second, protection of criminals is not the cause of crime being out of control. We really should stop dividing our society by statements like those.
@@antonk.653 You're right, it's the refusal to properly detain violent criminals while law enforcement resources are utilized more for traffic stops and monitoring everyone's movement.
Preach. If i cant kill, I'll make em wish i did.
@@pknessbtaylor Quit with the edgelord, please. Cringe.
@@antonk.653 Just be a good person
I am 80 years old with nothing to lose and if anyone breaks into my home I will protect my wife, pets and self to the fullest extent. Its these type of laws that have ruined America with giving the bad guys and killers protection for their crimes and these crimes will keep happening. Our court system and laws needs a over haul. Thanks for the video but things need to change,
Vote trump and they will!!!
@JCL43 : 1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣% Agreed!!. (ER MD here). It's disgusting witnessing this (..Lack of.. ) 'Govt' has been weakening / fading our most basic, GOD given Constitutional rights, simultaneously dooming America + Free World into an absolutely senseless / absurd WWIII / Armageddon. May our Lord Almighty save our Human Species.. 😌💪🇺🇲🙏🙏🙏🙏
🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏TRUMP24’
Overhauling is only a start. It needs to stay overhauled. Not overturned.
@@chrislapp9468hundred percent real
#1 DO NOT leave the intruder alive.
#2 Say you were afraid for your life.
#3 Don't talk to the police, call a lawyer immediately!
Any lawyer that takes your call at 3am is probably not one you want to be using.
Better Call Saul!
I'm way off on the first one, and last one 😅
Absolutely.
Do not call the cops and warm up the excavator. I live to far out for the sheriff to viset
I’ve asked this before….
Why is there even any legal ramifications to using deadly force against someone endangering your life? Who are these prosecutors who go after the home owners? Shouldn’t we make efforts to remove those people from office?
They're called Democrats. Apparently USCCA tries to be politically correct by not mentioning that fact it's mostly Democrat prosecutors and Democrat state attorney generals who do this.
They are called demons, children of the devil or fallen angels as in Genesis 6:1 and they are everywhere. They ( but not all, ) are the democrats and the republicans, your neighbors and co-workers, and when these people die, they get the "shock" of their lives, when they find out they are not fully dead, but a ghost, trapped in limbo with nothing better to do than to go haunting.
Yup
@@Enjoyer.762 SO THERE ARE NO REPUBLICAN PRESECUTORS OR JUDGES 🤔🤔
🛑IT WITH THE 🐂 💩
THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT, YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER
@@choiceofyahuwah LOST SOULS DON'T HAVE A FACE
As a single guy, I feel a deep obligation toward a civic duty to permanently dispatch anybody willing to break into my house. The balance is not the intruder's life verses my things. It is the intruder's life verses the lives of those in the next house he breaks into. The next house might be an unarmed family or elderly. If the burglar survival rate were to take a nose dive so would the burglary rate.
So true
Exactly
And so would the slimy lawyer rate
True that.
Well said, a life of crime should never pay off , the freedom to continue is revoked right now
Also, keep your car remote next to the bed. The panic button will help. If your car is in the garage, beeping horns and flashing light will tend to make the intruder flee.
Nice Idea. I had not thought of that
Thanks that's helpful!
And, lock you bedroom door if you live alone. I also have my phone dialed to 911.
@@fishingpinky3165well that’s just not possible I have pets lol
WTF! Not a option.
This is VERY Old School advice (1970s) that a police officer told my dad after someone tried to break into our house, and yes, my dad was a firearm owner. The officer said, something along the lines of:
"Well, if someone breaks into your home at 2 am, and you shoot him dead...then there's only 1 side of the story to be told."
I've always had that in mind...
I am a woman who lives alone and I think I can thus pretty easily and Truthfully say that I was in fear of my life. If someone broke into my house...I will not shoot to injure...I will try my best to make sure that person leaves my home in a body bag.
I would have a far more peace of mind knowing I killed a 'bad person' over the idea that if the guy lives, I might have to face being sued by him, or worry about what he will do if he goes to jail for a time, but then gets out holding a grudge against me. I Do Not want to live the rest of my life looking over my shoulder in such a scenario of a home invastion.
I lock my doors and windows at night, have two large dogs that growl...Those are my only, 'Keep Out' warnings...and if someone wishes to persist in face of that...again, I am going to assume they would be willing to harm me for what ever reason is in their stupid ass minds for breaking in.
@StormyPeak
Bravo!
Amen brother
@@trenchantsometimes5149 Thanks.
I would have said so earlier, but TH-cam hasn't been posting my notifications for over a week now...finally got a few of them today.
Just make sure you don't tell the police that you shoot to kill.
@@poultrydish I live in Idaho, we have stand your ground and castle law.
IF ever, someone breaks into my home and I kill them...there will be No Doubt I was shooting to kill -- because I will unload the entire cylinder of bullets into the intruder.
And the laws, plus the attitude of most people who live in my part of Idaho, won't blame me for doing it. Again, I am an older woman, (59 years old and only 5 foot 3 inches tall...with severe back injuries) living alone.
If some man or even a woman, breaks into my house, I am justified in using lethal force to stop them because I would be in fear of my life in such a situation. And by Idaho law, I have the right to use lethal force to protect my person.
"Anything you say CAN AND WILL be used against you in a court of law". This is not just when you are being arrested. Prosecutors are looking for wins, not justice.
Sad, but true. The so called vice president knowingly put an innocent person in prison to further her career.
Except that you are wrong. A court OF law will never be involved with your case. Only courts AT law will prosecute you. You don't even know that you're under the jurisdiction of a corporation.
And that is ALL prosecutors of every city, county and state.
Those are the real criminals
Actually, it's "[a]nything you say can and will be TWISTED against you to get me a win on my way up the political ladder to attorney general, then governor, and truth be damned."
11:00 I couldnt disagree more. My first instructor as well as a cop I know both said something along these lines. The guy who breaks into your place during the day when nobody is home or at night when nobody is home is after your stuff and they are just a theif. The guy who breaks in when there are cars in the driveway in the dead of night is DANGEROUS. they are there for your stuff but they clearly arent scared of a fight. A thief who is non violent will case your place and go in when you are not there.
There are thousands of murderers who were ex-thieves
I agree. If someone is "just a burglar", the last thing they want is a run in with the homeowner. If they break in knowing you are there, they are there for more than your stuff.
I don't understand if you there when they break in are you going to ask him if he's peaceable and if he says no then shoot him.
I agree. And not everyone is breaking in to steal. Some are there to rape
This. The only time that might not be true is if there is somehow no sign you are home - for example, your car is in the shop and you’re temporarily carpooling to work.
Seems like it's getting to the point where you might be charged for not offering the criminal a cup of coffee while they're breaking into our home and stealing our stuff.
Exactly! And b charged for not offering your wife or daughter to be sexually assaulted as well. “Why didn’t you use methods to calm down the situation and making the assailants shoot or stab you by offering sexual gratification to him/them? Why didn’t you do that? Besides, your wife is never a virgin anymore so it should not violate her sense of modesty. And your daughter, she’s more likely not a virgin either, maybe she has already had sex with multiple me, so, she should know that performing sex with the assailants should have prevented gory things from happening, you should not have been stabbed, mutilated or shot! Your honor, we demand that the house owner be sentenced to jail for the maximum years possible. Our client has suffered emotionally and mentally because of the failure of this father to offer his wife/daughter as a method to prevent the physical assaults.” Stupid? Ridiculous? Insane? But it’s already insanity………
The system is janky & it’s sad…
Not in South Dakota. If they are in your home and armed you are empowered to protect yourself. Castle doctrine. Actually they don't even need to be in your house. On your property is good enough.
Not in Texas.
They ain't drinking none of mine I'll give them some vinegar to drink
Burglar (Being held at gun point) : “Aren’t you going to call the police?
Homeowner : “Why? Nobody else knows you’re here.”
Truth
Don’t forget that you’ll need 4 bags of cement and a bag of lime 😎
@@conway573 Now you giving out trade secrets 😏
@@Billybob-go8hn
I have a little sign posted on my shed…”CAUTION: Cement & Lime on Premises”…keeps away the riffraff…and town building inspector 😎
Why? they've been defunded. No one will come anyway.
As a Marine Veteran, it’s kinda hard for me to stay locked away in a safe room. Locate, close with, destroy.
Those guys surely broke into the wrong house, haha
They taught you to clear rooms by yourself in the Marines or with a fire team?
Locate, close, and destroy is not defense; it's attack.
@@rangersmith4652 It's stupid tactics that gets one shot by home invaders. If one has to protect family members staying put isn't necessary an option. When somebody breaks into your home it is self defense. We know you're anti self-defense, seen your other comments.
@@Enjoyer.762 You're misreading my comments. I am NOT anti self defense. I am anti shoot-without-question Internet ninja chest puffing.
It amazes me beyond words, how lawyers will go to extreme lengths to go after the person defending their home and property - and almost ignore the fact that none of it would have been necessary if the criminal hadn't gone there in the first place.
I believe those lawyers deserve to have their addresses posted for everyone to see and do with as they please.
IT'S CALLED SOCIAL JUSTICE LIBERALISM.
Amen 👍🏼
Its all about where you live in the south the guys dead and courts will back the home owner in other parts of the country its different. If the person is trying to get in and you shoot him drag him inside. You are only allowed to do what is necessary too much harm and you are in trouble. Who has time to plan "not to hurt a person too much"? If someone is prowling on your property they can argue he was lost or looking for help. Who knows what lawyer will come up with.
Well lawyers ARE the problem.
My home is the safe room. They come in, EMT carries them out. There's no compromising!
I agree with 1st statement 2nd would be coroner carries them out
I also agree except I don't give a flip who carries their body away.
GSDs get to "play" first.
Ditto
These guys talk like they are on The View for gun owners. Stay hidden in your safe room until police arrive so you don't have to talk with them?
Why do law abiding citizens, have to fight the law system, harder then the bad guys?
Why do bad guys have more protection under the law, than good guys?
That’s what folks voted for.
False logic I wish people could get passed. They do not have more rights. They do not have more protections but they do have the same. It seems the base idea is that people who say what you said is that you want them to lose all rights. I personally agree that if someone enters someone else's house uninvited then that persons life should be forfeit (to the homeowner) but my personal thoughts dont make the law. They do maintain their rights and they are the same ones you have.
@@firstlast-fr1le Im not necessarily sure I believe that their life is forfeit. There definitely is a thin line between just being a stupid dumbass breaking in at night to find money or jewelry and someone breaking in because they're off the rails and looking for blood/violence. Problem is you don't know when someone enters the house what their intent is. The first things you should probably do when you know someone is in the house is, get armed, call the police bunker down, and make a lot of noise that hopefully they'll get spooked not realizing someone was home and gtfo.
@@mjf4394 All of that is very reasonable. What I mean by life is forfeit by the homeowner is it should be his call as to what is needed. not that he has to or should always kill. just what he thinks is best in the moment. There should be no charges filed (against home owner) by law enforcement once it is determined that the guy broke in.
In the rare instance of the homeowner just going overboard and torturing or beheading/dismembering - that is another level and should be dealt with case by case. (ive never heard of it)
I agree with the entire notion of a Home Invader is putting his own life on the line by invading, but, the flip side concern is some crazy ass whack job intentionally inviting someone over, shooting and killing them just because they know they can claim that they came in uninvited. It's very important that we make damn sure we don't allow something like that to happen!
If you breach my door, you're in my safe room! At that point all bets are off, that's a miscalculation for them.
If you break in my door and you don't identify yourself sorry about your luck, I don't provide the body bags.
Agreed, in principle.
In practice, consult your lawyer.
You can run along and call, meanwhile I'm looking after my family...
My house is very small so, same here.
My safe room is my property line on 70 acres. If your trespassing your there to kill and torture then steal. I don't want to harm anyone so if you threaten me I believe you and will stop you. I will protect my property because that is my survival. Reason I am too old to run or fight and want to be left in peace. Fear tactics of government who protects criminals are just as bad as a murderer!
If you have to use deadly force on an intruder, NEVER tell the police or ANYONE that you intended to kill the person. "I knew I had to stop him because he was endangering my family." You STOP him but you never say that you intended to kill. That can change everything.
Luckily I've never had to use anything more than my hands in the surrender position.
@@bowtieguy85 Some people want to hurt or kill you and witnesses are always a problem.
@@charleswesley9907 that hasn't been our experience thus far.
@@bowtieguy85 I’m glad that wasn’t your experience, but the people who didn’t have the same luck aren’t here to post dumbass comments like yours
@@XxXgamerkidXxX1 well I wasn't speaking for them
Prosecutor attorney's care more about winning cases than they care about someone protecting their home and property.
I was LEO for 25 years… I’ve seen the degradation of prosecutory attorneys degrade the last ten years. The poor officers have training and protocol that’s untenable and irrational given most situations….I was on the wrong side of training the last five years simply because I was using real world field experience versus officers with ten years on armed with revised training protocols… I was constantly told my experience was wrong … in retrospect my experience was right and their knowledge would get me killed.
End story we are in a rotting society, and do what you need to do to survive, every situation is unique, your gut instinct is usually the best. Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six is real. Arm chair quarterbacks are a dime a dozen. Train your body and mine be wise… evade your enemy but be swift in protecting yourself if you need… I know of several officers who hesitated and paid with injury…
Criminals lie and lie all the time it’s sad the local district attorney actually take their side but it’s real.
I was caught at home in a situation where I did not have my gun and physical responded in kind to the felon… He had the audacity to say I beat him up when he attacked me… Fortunately the responding officers didn’t believe this fool.
God bless
How many bad cops did you arrest in your career?
the clock is ticking till the table flips and people fight back. you sounds like the cops of old that had integrity. Todays cops have lost ALL respect or trust. Ever heard of Milgram Experiment from 1969?
You guys seem out of touch with reality that robbers and burglars are usually armed. They're more likely to open fire on the victim(s) than to spare their lives and leave. Such cases are becoming frequent and your advice is setting up your listeners for failure. I have coworkers at the medical center who lost their lives from robberies and burglaries. One former coworker encountered two burglars at his home. The burglars opened fire but missed him. Another coworker encountered a similar situation but was unfortunate. The burglars opened fired and struck him. He's still in ICU.
Engaging with the goal of neutralizing burglars and robbers are inevitable. Anyone who enters into my home is a threat and should be treated as such. I don't see any practicality in your advice.
Cops are allowed to lie as well to make an arrest and persecute the innocent. It happens every single day. Based on videos I'm seeing of cops constantly lying and assaulting people and getting off Scott free, I am more likely to believe the person arrested than the cop.
Criminals may lie but so does the police
I’ll say this once. Everyone should be able to defend their loved ones INCLUDING PETS, and possessions in their home, on their property or where there is imminent threat without being legally destroyed for doing so.
I’m in Texas. Someone breaks into my house, it’s either a shotgun to the head or a bullet to the lungs or spine. Makes no difference to me. The outcome remains the same: perp is taking a dirt nap.
You can't just shoot them or you'll face felony charges. I'm in Texas as well. they have to have a weapon in hand or upon breaking into. Basically it has to look like aggravated robbery or attempted murder on their side . that's the difference between us having the stand your ground law instead of the castle doctrine. So it's really a gamble with your freedom if you decide to shoot him not knowing if he's armed. Me personally I would shoot anyways because these robbers nowadays ain't breaking in without being armed
@@krucial47 Texas isn’t a Castle Doctrine state?! That’s crazy. I have always just assumed it was. I live in Missouri (not St. Louis), and we are protected by Castle Doctrine here.
As long as you’re willing to go to jail or die over stuff.
@@krucial47 simple answer always hae a untraceable gun that way the perp will be guaranteed to have a gun.
They can have the house, the car, all their contents, the kids, the wife. . .
There, now the public record is complete and reality can take place, without a normal guy having said anything that would or could be used against him.
A burglar broke into a house one night. He shines his flashlight around the house looking for valuables when a voice in the dark says "Jesus knows you're here." Freaked out, he turns his flashlight off and freezes, but hears nothing more so shakes his head and continues. As he is disconnecting cables from the TV, he hears very clearly "Jesus is watching you." Startled, he shines his light around frantically looking for the source of the voice. In the corner of the room he spots a Parrot. "Did you say that?" he asks. "Yes," the parrot confessed, "I'm just trying to warn you that he's watching you." The burglar laughs a bit, "warn me huh? Who in the world are you!" "Moses." The bird replies. With a now humorous tone, the burglar asks "What kind of person would name a bird Moses?" The bird replies "the same kind of people who would name a rottweiler Jesus."
🤣😆🤣 brilliant!
Priceless.
Lmfao
FUNNY BUT….really. I have a layered system. You might need 10 associates to breach my home. You upset me . I revised my field of Fire, lanes of approach, cover, loaded magazines, load &positioned kinetics, k bars and etc at bedtime.
@@nevercedes2070, after ten minutes I finally figured out what the heck this means. Guess I ain't "with it" no more.
As far as the "they only want stuff. They'll run if you tell them you're there." etc., I don't know how many security cam footage I've seen of home burglaries where the robbers are openly carrying guns. If they're coming in armed and ready, what makes you think they're going to run upon hearing "I called the police" or something? Maybe 30 years ago home burglaries were just about getting in and out quick with some of your stuff, but today I feel these criminals are much more prone to violence. The value of human life has diminished greatly.
Absolutely! It's a whole new ball game now!!
I would add, never fire a warning shot.
But that's what our genius, totally mentally competent commander and sniff told us to do.
Don't talk or yell either. Just aim center mass and fire. Rats travel in packs so you need every advantage you can get.
I agree, my warning shot is shooting the criminal dead.
@@guesswhomartin9249 'and always take headshots whenever possible' especially at close range, 😜
Yeah joe told us to fire 2 blasts in to the air with our shotguns.
Generally people only break into your dwelling for two reasons at two specific times.
1. During the day, they want your stuff.
2. During the night, they want you.
If someone breaks into your house _to get you_ specifically, your life is most likely off the rails to begin with, so you might as well shoot him.
A gun is with me in every room literally.
Well said
NICE! ! ! ! ! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯
@@rangersmith4652 not only is this the dumbest comment I’ve read today, you’ve gotten ten other morons to agree with it.
Security Cameras around the outside and a couple inside solves most questions of home defense and the story of the person entering without permission tells later. It worked for me. My answer to the Police was, "I do not care what he said, Lets Go To The Video". Thank You sir. You are welcome.
Correct! Have cameras watching the entire perimeter...end of story!
I love how this guy was a cop but always says don’t talk to the police I salute you sir and it’s true sometimes little bit you say can convict you.
"If it wasn't for lawyers, we wouldn't need lawyers!"
We have lost the path when someone protecting their family and home is the suspect. SMH....we have lost the way.
In all fairness, some people will commit a crime because they've been physically or psychologically tortured and forced against their will to commit the crime.
Coercive persuasion is real.
There are many good lawyers. There are rotten ones, like criminals. There are some that pretend they know and don’t or just abhorrently lazy and some who are just repulsive. I met a few great lawyers and just lovable. I met one dumb one and one repulsive, ugh, ugh… my grandpa was a lawyer, my niece and soon a nephew. I pray they continue to be guided by their original principles and beliefs to help in the real sense.
Your right. Your absolutely right
The door to my "safe room" is the front door to my house. So if you cross that threshold you are leaving your right to live in my front yard, period.
You still must use critical thinking. Is it a new neighbor who thinks they are coming into their home?
@@JT-ht6fk why the hell would my neighbor let themselves into my home without my knowledge?
I appreciate Mr. Grieve's comments about the effects of a legal shooting. An acquaintance of mine in California sat in jail for a year after he shot someone in self defense. When he finally went to trial, not guilty. But he lost his job, house, all his money and more than a year of his life.
Bet he now believes in INSURANCE for gun owners eh.
Amazing how many fools think it's easy to shoot people and walk away with no come back.
@@Me-hv9fk No...only dummies would choose to live in Commiefornia
That's Cali for ya! That's also why I live in Texas.
Another reason to leave Commifornia
May cali fall off into the ocean.
When I took my CCW class the instructor told us you make yourself known, you tell them you are armed, have called the police, and they need to leave, all while still on the phone with 911 so it is recorded. This can be used a evidence that you told them not to come near you and can help you prove the point that they were not there just for you belongings if you have to use force.
That's a lovely story IF you happen to have time to call 911, and IF they bother to pick up instead of routing you to an answering machine. When the intruder is in your home, assume that he intends to do you harm, and do enough harm to him to stop him before he can harm you.
And give up your position? good way to your end game.
Well,yeah,if you can get to a phone in time and make the call!
In days of old stealing a horse was a hanging offence, maybe cowboy justice needs to return.
"Don't clear your house." I have an issue with this. If you KNOW someone is in your home, I totally agree. If you wake up at 0300 hearing glass break, you have the question of, "is it a burglar or just the cat?" In those cases, you aren't going to call the cops and barricade yourself in your safe room. In such a case (and I have been through this), I hand the phone to my wife and carefully go check out my home. For the record, it was the cat who knocked a glass bowl into the sink.
As for announcing yourself, Massad Ayoob said to call the police, give them your details, then, while still on the phone, holler through the house, "You are in my house, I have called the police, and I have a gun." Massad's reasoning behind this was, (1) "You are in my house," this helps keep the guy from giving the story about how he thought he was in his buddy's house (which, incidentally, is in a completely different state or town), (2) "I have called the police" many people are actually afraid to call the police, and criminals know this. It also lets them know the cavalry is on the way, and (3) "I have a gun" this lets the bad guy know you are willing and able to defend yourself. In and of itself, this may lead the the bad guy leaving the premises. If it doesn't, it gives a good and reasonable argument for the homeowner to fire on the assailant. After all, it is reasonable to believe the assailant is armed and wanting to do you grave bodily harm if, even after your telling him you are armed, he still seeks you out. This info from Massad Ayood is found in his book, "The Truth About Self Protection."
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Ayood has never been in a gunfight. Quit shooting black peoples
If the bad guy gets out he knows where you live…you don’t have that blessed info on him.
Never tell them you have a gun, never fire a warning shot, never talk to the police without a lawyer.
You can tell the police that you will cooperate and answer questions after your lawyer arrives.
@@Easy_Skanking That AND to demand the 72 hour rest period. Details get blurry when one’s fueled with adrenaline and not doing so could put your self defense claim in serious Jeopardy if you opt out.
Yep... the idiots with the "Protected by S&W" or "You come in my door, you better come packing" signs and the like are just that... idiots. Why are you TELLING them you have guns. When they come in... they will come in blasting. Let the fact you are armed, be a SURPRISE!!! By the time they realize it... they will be bleeding out on the floor. My only problem is having enough left over after my pit/rottweiler Mace is done... to be able to shoot :)
Never cooperate with cops nor lawyers, just tell your attorney suspect trespassed, attacked you, and you protected yourself... any other argument is pure hearsay and done to make you a reasonable man/woman... whenever you are expressing the truth or protecting your life do not be reasonable with cops and attorneys!
@@Easy_Skanking This is exactly right... tell them that your life was threatened, that you defended yourself, and that you will make a full report after talking to your attorney. Then SHUT UP. They may continue to ask questions, the correct answer is always - I have already stated that I will be speaking to my attorney before making any further statements.
Don't be a dik about it, but you don't have to sugar coat it either.
Can't wait for the day where bad people are the ones thinking "I'm not gonna break into this home because I might not make it out alive "
Currently, that depends on where one lives.
Excellent well articulated and thoughtful presentation...bottom line..as a defender of yourself or present others...do all you possibly can to take action that eliminate the threat until no other legitimate option is available...I will always prefer the threat leaving b4 using any form of deadly force...but ???
Until they ban self defense
Even part-time burglars know to avoid occupied dwellings for exactly that reason.
I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that day.
"Least force necessary . . . for Least Harm necessary." Sage advice.
It depends greatly on your location, where you reside, and what the laws are there. I'm in NC. We are a "Stand your ground" and a "Castle doctrine" state. If a home invader is busting down my door, I'm not obligated to allow him to enter my residence before I can use deadly force. I will meet the said invader with deadly force before this invader has the option to harm my family.
Go to know just got my first gun 5 months ago been in Charlotte for 3 years now
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I have no idea how people live in a state like New York or other states where it is basically illegal to even own a gun much less use it. On top of that one cannot even use things like pepper spray, air gun, baseball bat, even a nail gun, etc., to defend yourself with. Anything that is considered something that you can do harm with by the authorities you can be prosecuted for if you defend yourself with it. One of the reasons why I left New York many many years ago and now live in the sane state of Florida where my full Constitutional rights are respected. Florida also has a "Stand Your Ground" law which may be even more permissive than many other states with the same law.
Texas is full of Armed Texans, do you really want to roll the dice w/ your life...
@@KayoMonei I live in uptown Charlotte and its been getting crazy I've been considering getting one soon.
@@TheUzamaki1234 yeah you might want to especially before or if they start banning certain weapons
4) Don’t post what you would do if someone broke into your residence in the comments section of a TH-cam video. It’s discoverable and may be used against you in the future should you find yourself in court. Just a thought…
@CommunistHunter “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”
A prosecutor makes his living getting convictions; he'll stop at nothing to have the jury find you guilty of a crime if you shoot somebody--anybody. But if you decide to let the bad guy take your stuff, you can just file an insurance claim and replace it. Easy choice to make. If the baddy actually threatens you, do what you must. But if you run down the stairs and challenge him, that isn't defense, the prosecutor knows it isn't defense, and he'll make sure your jury does as well.
@@I_Am_Not_That_Guy Don't take the bait, ignore the trolls... your original post was 100% true and sane advice.
Rewine, you got that right. Nowadays what one says/types will get one into more trouble than one's actions. Never let the action be misconstrued as being planned in a situation like this.
@@hobbyhermit66 absolutely!
This may ruffle some feathers, but so be it. Firearms training is one of those few areas in life where EVERYONE (who has the capacity to do so) should be striving to be ambidextrous as much as possible. I am ambidextrous in nearly all that I do, including firearms. I never believed in "weak side, strong side" and I trained accordingly in all things. When I heard Kevin say "I have a left handed shot so I need to get across the hall" that blew my mind a little. Why cross into the path of an intruder, rather than just training up your left side?
Next time you all go to the range, or dry fire with the Mantis, everything you do one way, do the other. Itll pay life saving dividends for you one day.
I wonder how many people practice drawing and shooting with their non-dominant hand. I do. You could get injured and need that skill someday.
I'll add one more. Learn the offset from your dominate eye, to your subordinate eye... at different distances. I can shoot either handed, but my left hand and eye are dominate even though I write right handed. I can aim left eyed, regardless of what hand I'm holding a handgun, or a rifle or shotgun for that matter... but that may not always be possible. When at the range, aim with your subordinate eye... and calculate the offset. For some people it may be minimal. But, for others, it can be substantial. Having the ability to put rounds on target with either hand, and with either eye, could make the difference between living... and dying.
@@jaynecobb1 not very many I would assume. I carry half the week lefty, and the other half righty. I also do at least 50 draw strokes each week on both sides with Mantis. It really blows my mind that many, many people only utilize half of their body effectively. Have a great day!
@@donf3877 great point, and I'm the exact same way you are in terms of being "cross dominant' (right hand/left eye). For rifle I practice switching from left shoulder to right shoulder in my sling, and for pistol I practice one handed switches consistently. WPSN has John Lovell's Pistol 3 course, and he focuses on these skills well in that course
@@jaynecobb1 there is a tendency for people to shoot at what they see as the threat. This boils down to that people get shot in their "good" hand more often than what simple bad luck would explain.
As a mom of 5 I have several means to defend myself. I can’t scoop up my kids and run to safety. We also live in the country so by the time the deputies got here what’s going to happen already has. My husband works part time at 911. We have a sign on our home that says, We don’t call 911. I was raised with guns and to shoot with accuracy. I wasn’t raised to be a defenseless female. My kids are older and know where our guns are, how to use them, and at what point it’s ok for them to do so. I’ve also told them if they can’t take the shot then just try to escape. I don’t want that to haunt them. They are only to do so if I can’t. Thankfully, we live in a community that watches out for one another. But if I went outside to scream for help I don’t know if anyone would hear me. I sleep with my keys on my nightstand to use the panic button to scare off anyone first. Then my 4 small dogs go nuts if anyone steps on our property. If that doesn’t deter them I sleep with my 38 under my pillow & I have a snake charmer between the headboard and my nightstand that doesn’t have a safety and is cocked and ready. I also have a 9mm hid in another location in my bedroom. Our AR is ready and hidden as well. I have 2 other 9mm’s hidden in other rooms that no one would ever know existed. After having a husband who has worked part time on weekends for over 20 years I wont be caught unprotected. Plus we have cameras I can monitor anytime. This day and time it’s up to us to make sure we stay safe. I pray I never have to use them but if it comes to my kids or them it will be them.
It's funny that you guy fear and prepare against home invasion, but maybe don't care much about the real thing that kill: smoking, drinking and driving/texting, speeding, obesity, etc.
Sure, theses real statistics are not as sexy as a gun against a vilain.
But the real vilain don't wear gun, it wear a spoon, a glass of wine, an Iphone and commute with your car on a daily basis.
100% Truth!
Awesome! PS - what is a snake charmer?
@@collincleaningsmall single shot shotgun
You can get biometric (fingerprint) gun safes for well under $100 now. I don’t know about having guns out unlocked around kids (or their friends little brother that came over for the first time and found one).
This discussion is so nuanced, no one could really use this information to know what to do. If someone is in my home and is obviously there unlawfully to do some kind of harm, then, not knowing the intended level of harm that could be done to me or family, the intruder, if armed, would be shot....period. Any other action leaves me in potential physical danger.
Ridiculous that we have to research the laws to protect ourselves from criminals trying to hurt us and our family.
My whole home is my safe room. If I am not safe in my own home there's a huge issue
I’m a police officer and these laws are very cringy where criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens Smfh
I love that he defines what winning is to him. Most people have that "I wish someone would" mentality and not the "I hope I never have to deal with that but I am ready if it ever happens"
So true. And that's how legal gun owners end up in jail
@@m.danielmills7091 Yes, it depends A LOT on the DA's thoughts/position on instances. It could be a clean shoot to everyone but the jury's thoughts about the prosecutor's case.
This is why it's so important to get the training and have a CCW license, even in a Constitutional Carry state. Over 80% of the training is about legalities, not to mention the fact that simply having that permit will likely make a prosecutor think twice about bringing charges.
@@paulis7319 facts. I'm all for firearms but I also think people need to be educated on safety and there rights and laws
@@paulis7319 In my firearms training classes I used to attend I remember 70% of it was spent on the legalities. By the time it was over, I learned what I THOUGHT was legal to do VS what was ACTUALLY legal to do would have landed me in jail. I would say that 90% of all new gun owners think like I did. Hell a large majority of gun owners period seem to have no clue about this stuff
If I could add one more thing to the conversation. It's important to distinguish between a burglar and a home invader entering for reasons other than theft of property. People should prepare for both. Most burglars try and break in when nobody's home for obvious reasons but the home invader that breaks in at night when the family is likely to be home is a different kind of criminal and you should treat them as a dangerous killer until you know otherwise. Somebody has to be pretty bold to break in when the family is home especially if they're by themself.
Yeah I ain't taking the chance it's just a junkie looking for stuff and not Richard Ramirez or BTK. You break into my home you left your rights at the property line.
Castle Doctrine here says I can shoot to defend property too.
That is the dumbest statement I have heard in a week, right next to Biden saying things are getting better LOL
We'll if your home they are dangerous shoot.
@@ajaxslamgoody9736 LOL. Right? What are you suppose to do? Ask him to fill out a survey to determine if he's a burglar or a home invader?
That is why I keep a questionnaire near all my exterior windows and doors.
Just to make sure I am shooting the right kind of criminal breaking into my home.
/s
We used to live in a society that believed in what comes around goes around. Now, criminals seem to have more rights than the people that they terrorize and get shot by. If a person CHOOSES to break into a home, they forfeit the rights to life and liberty by committing that crime. The fact that this is even remotely controversial is absolutely ridiculous
In sane states, it's not. If you live in one of the panty waste Marxism states with no castle doctrine, move.
We live in the times of our 'representatives' struggling to define a woman so.... We know who is at fault and diverting our resources to nonsense and the people that let it happen.
Thank a democratic administration, VOTE REPUBLICAN 🇺🇸
That's your Democratic administration VOTE REPUBLICAN 🇺🇸
Their choice also forfeit's your rights to life too.... a free life.
You are absolutely right about having a plan. You need to decide today, before an incident happens what is important to you. I have no kids. That is not an issue. So my wife come first. I am second. Property is third. However, if I think based on my knowledge, training and experience, I can gain a better tactical advantage I will take it. I live in Texas. Nuff said.
Wise words from my cc instructor: a dead burglar can’t lie but if you’re going to talk to the police you should always tell the truth because the cops WILL find out eventually.
Almost 3 years ago, around mid 2019, I walked in on 2 guys robbing my place of business. (I am former US Army, '99-'04). At the time, (0 dark 30) I was doing maintenance and security. During the day I worked sales. The robbers broke in (around 05:30am-05:45am) to the business next door ((didn't trigger our alarms, but they were on our cameras when they entered our store)(the 2 stores were enter connected in the back), I was outside in my truck having a smoke break when I saw lights dancing around behind the registers (the lights were off in the store, and I had a straight line of sight into the store), I put my cigarette out, grabbed my rifle and walked in on them (loot in hand), my rifle (British .303) pointed at the robbers (they were close to each other). I called the police and the business owner. One officer asked me, "Why didn't you shoot them?" He then said, "You had every right." I didn't say a word until after I pulled my dog tags out from under my shirt, I told him I already have enough PTSD from OIF '03, I didn't need to add to it. I told the officer(s), they (the robbers) didn't appear to be armed, they already had their hands full, and they didn't approach me. The robbers were arrested and were taken straight to jail, evidence was collected, and I went to the VA for another PTSD evaluation. Once I returned to work, I received 2 letters from the court (one on each robber) stating that my statement + video and evidence was enough to charge them, and that my presence wasn't needed in court. No action taken against me, as I was simply doing my job and no one got hurt. The business was saved, which would have gone under if the robbers had gotten away with the tens of thousands of dollars worth of merchandise and cash they had in their hands and on the floor by the door they had broken into. 3 registers, 2 safes and many valuable items recovered.
I live in a small town with a high burglary rate, in an open carry state (now a constitutional carry state). I'm glad I was ready, and I'm also glad I didn't have to pull the trigger.
Keep your head on a swivel guy and gals, pay attention to your surroundings, evaluate your situation, and keep yourself protected. But most importantly, don't pull that trigger unless you have to.
Great story great advice, thank you for your service
In NC someone running after breaking in or being threatening or just committed physical harm can be considered regrouping, and allows for a valid shoot. Im sure you would have to lawyer up with one with CCW experience but it is lawful. Not saying I would do it.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR STORY AND GOD BLESS YOU
Damned good advice and only a complete idiot would argue against it.
@@baddad1357 It’s ALL how well you articulate the fact’s.
Relying on law enforcement for me isn't a good option. I live out in the county and it would take them 15-20 min to get to my house if they were available. In this day and age depending on the government for safety or protection is not a good idea and creates a false sense of security for many people. People need to train and have a solid plan for when the police never show up.
Don't think you're going to get quick response in the city either...they get tied up on arrests. Now if you're in a quiet, wealthy burb the cops are likely a block away with the mike in their hand.
Agree.
Also, when they arrive, your safety isn't their #1 priority.
Theirs is.
You want to place yourself in the best tactical position to repel the invader(s), you know your house, the bad guys don't. NEVER give away your position...once you do, the bad guy can very easily start spraying lead in your direction. Gun fights are not about being fair, they are all about surviving. Make the statement to the police, that you had to fire to defend your life, then ask to be taken to the hospital, and contact an attorney before any conversation with the police.
Anyone comes into my house without my permission, My families life and mine is in danger. Nobody is safe until the intruder has been eliminated. I’m not assuming they don’t intend my family any harm. That would be ignorant.
Exactly. That’s how the courts should look at it. At any moment he can do harm to you or your family. Why should a law abiding citizen in his own home have to potentially wait until it’s too late to take defensive action?
If you are breaking into a occupied home, you are planning bad things, regardless you entered someone else’s home you have no right to do so even police can’t without probably cause or a warrant. So if you enter without permission and break in, then you have forfeited your rights, life, and should be prepared for the results.
@@gferguson88 ABSOLUTELY!! I couldn’t agree more!
Bingo...anyone who enters or is in the process of entering an occupied dwelling UNLAWFULLY and BY FORCE should be considered an immediate and LETHAL threat to the lawful residents of the home nationwide. Fortunately in my state the LAW explicitly states this and provides not only immunity from criminal prosecution but also civil liability for the lawful residents of the home. This is the essence of the Castle Doctrine.
Once the bad guy "remembers an urgent prior obligation" and exits your home post-haste, you no longer have any reason, either ethical or legal, to fire upon the retreating bad guy UNLESS he's retreating while firing at you. Do not pursue, that's the job of the police. Give a good description of the bad guy/guys to the cops and description of the getaway vehicle, but do NOT continue the engagement outside the home IF it started in the home.
@@animeyhem9780 exactly. Only if he leaves and is running away should you not be allowed to use deadly force. But inside your home, regardless of what he’s doing at that time, he is a threat. Even as a DA I hate the fact that prosecutors and cops investigate and nit pick what took place to determine if the guy wasn’t “technically” a direct threat at that exact moment, and if you had the ability to flee. Castle Doctrine should be federal law. If the guy is in your house burglarizing you, he should automatically be deemed a threat to your life.
What state do you fortunately live in? That’s exactly how it should be. No criminal or civil protection should be awarded a burglar.
You missed, "You should never fire a warning shot." If you are within city-limits, you are guilty of Discharge Within City-Limits. You fire to do violence, in self-defense, or don't fire at all.
I am not going to do anything. Capone the 80-pound pitbull on the other hand is a different story! The sign on the fence reads "know your blood type, it will help EMS".
Such signs are funny, but will be used against you in the court of law. "Exhibit A; the homeowner knew the dog was dangerous." Not saying I agree with it, but due to the litigious society we live in today, it's a bad idea.
@@seanhoude Yep and I will sue them for traumatizing my dog. We will see who can afford the better lawyer. Man, you got to love our legal system. Hell, I think I will sue their parents for giving birth to them.
Ive got a 52 lb Malinois that hits harder than a 100lb German shepherd. And she’s really not into strangers in her space. Especially if I give a simple command.
@@hackdlc Yep I worked with some when I was military police. They are the true fur missle.
I would be destroyed if the bad guy shot my pitty. The one time he woke me up with a low growl, then jumped off the bed to investigate, I was right behind him, armed. He's my alarm, I'm the security system.
#1. If you do not stop the intruder(s), they will do it again to you, or another person or family.
#2. Use the most efficient means to take down the intruder(s).
#3. Never talk to the police after the incident. Call a lawyer.
The incident would not have happened had the intruder(s) not started it. Most likely they will have a criminal history, and most likely you will not have a criminal history.
If the family sues you and wins, break into their home and steal enough stuff to get back what you lost.
Main thing to remember in a home invasion is to not leave the safety on.
“There’s gonna be a lot of slow singing & flower bringing, if my burglar alarm starts ringing” - the notorious B.I.G.
Well, I wouldn't be taking advise from him, but we get your point LOL.
What you think all the are for
" You got a red dot on your head too." "Ohhh shi.."
You might want to remember he’s dead. RIP😔
What you thought all the gats was for? All purpose war, Rottweilers by the door.
Man knew home defense 😂
The truth is you don't know what a home invader's intentions are when he enters your home. You damn well better treat it as a threat to your life and act accordingly until you absolutely know differently.
You still can’t shoot anyone who enters. You still must use critical thinking and identify your target. Is it a new neighbor who thinks they are trying to get into their home?
@@JT-ht6fk, if you are in reasonable fear of immanent peril (meaning loss of life or limb to yourself or to someone in your immediate protection), you can act in self defense. It MIGHT mean you can shoot anyone who enters and it might not.
@Shy Brotha Speaks when was the last time that happened or ever for that matter
@Shy Brotha Speaks you are not posting scenarios, you are posting make believe. I have worked thousands of burglaries and none, not even one involved a situation you described. They all involved criminals intent on stealing or much worse.
@@JT-ht6fk The castle doctrine in Texas presumes that using force is reasonable and justified when another person:
unlawfully and with force enters or attempts to enter your habitation, vehicle, or work-place; or
attempts to remove you, by force, from your habitation, vehicle, or work-place;
was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
The law says nothing about them needing to have a gun in their hand. Armed or not, breaking into someone’s home is forceable and in many cases, violent.
I live in GA. I’ve seen 2 of my close friends have severe legal consequences for self defense. (Yes, in their own home). 1 serves 8 years in prison before she got parole (and that was with witnesses). Think very carefully before you pull that trigger. If the intruder turns out to be unarmed: you’re more screwed than you can imagine. You’ll be forced to take a plea of voluntary manslaughter; ( if youre lucky). Either way, your life, as you know it, is over.
That's why I prefer to put my hands up and do as I'm told, can't be arrested for that. 😉
I seem to remember hearing many successful and well respected Firearms Professionals cautioning that we should be leery of "experts", that use terms like: Always / Never .
Every home-defense situation IS different. Safety / Knowledge / Proficiency
That's why I gave it a thumbs down 👎
Long live Paul Harrell!
Why the courts are always defending the bad guys rights with what looks like disregard of everyone's else rights?
Scenarios like these should be guilty til proven innocent for the suspect. That way maybe they'll think twice before doing anything.
Mc
Then when lies happen, you are guilty until proven innocent.
Which is often the case.
That’s also why many innocent people accept plea bargains.
@@helidude3502 true, Karen's will have a frenzy. Then something will have to be enforced for false accusations.
The problem is the state losing objectivity and using political pressure on the courts to enforce a media-created definition of who is "bad" and who is "good".
It's the BAR Association that's the problem, they took over the USA Court houses over a 100 years ago and pretended they are the masters of Law when in fact no Attorney has a License to practice actual Law in USA, instead Attorneys practice a private society BS called Legal Codes that are their private interpretations of Law!
I agree that family, even pets, come before property. That said, if I have a reasonable chance of stopping a burglary/robbery/home invasion without endangering my family, I'll take that chance every time. I consider my property a part of my life. I had to work hours and hours and hours to get the money to buy that computer or big-screen TV, or whatever. It is a part of my life they are taking when they steal my possessions. I know the law doesn't always back me on that, but the law is wrong. Just like they used to hang horse thieves, we should recognize that a person's hard work to acquire material possessions is as important as anything else.
The reason horse thieves were hanged was not because the owner worked hard to get them; instead it’s because the horse was needed in order TO WORK! That’s why horses were so valuable. Just saying!
You have homeowner's insurance for things
@@davidbutler5101 That doesn't mean that thieves should be given Carte Blanche...
@@epickett63 you got me there Hammurabi
@@davidbutler5101 Wow, THAT'S a jump in logic. So would you just let people walk off with a bunch of your stuff, and not even care?
When our daughter was approached by a mugger she said go away I have a knife. The police told her never to say that, just use it if she needed to.
To me home defense means protecting my home...all of it! Family and property. I have the right to not be a victim. I don't want to be in a gunfight and I don't want to take a life but in the end it's the bad guy who put themselves in this situation, not me!
I understand what you're saying. Let's look at this longer term. You have a duty to your family to be alive and present for them. Should you actively go out and confront a burglar to protect your stuff, you have the possibility of scaring them off; you have the possibility of getting into an altercation where shots are fired and you both get wounded; you may shoot and kill the perp, or they may kill you and seek vengeance on your family. Only in the first scenario can you count on being alive and present for your family. In all the other scenarios there's a strong chance you will be away from them for an extended period of time, if not permanently.
If some fool's in your house, announce your presence, tell them you're armed and the police are on their way. If you have homeowners insurance, let them take your property! You can replace that with a phone call. Institute better security protocols so that your home is less likely to be a target, learn from the experience. If the fool decides to play stupid games and come after you or your loved ones, (who are not replaceable), then give him the firearm, bullets first. Don't risk the future of your family needlessly over a handful of valuables.
@@kevinm.8682 again, it has nothing to do with a handful of valuables. It has everything to do with not being a victim. Of course you don't want to take foolish chances but you cannot be passive either. If a burglar has the stones to break into your home when you are there then you are part of what he is after. This type of burglar is often a thrill seeker and that need is progressive to maintain. These are the one that become racist and killers too often. A peaceful resolution is great but often not in the cards. Don't be a victim, the life you save may not be your own. Be prepared.
@Shy Brotha Speaks nobody breaks into a house and steals a pencil. However the key words here are you break in, this automatically puts my family at risk so yeah it would be a real good idea if you left in a big hurry
@@kevinm.8682 Agreed. At night I will remain in my loft, let them know I am there and armed, and hope they're not stupid enough to start up the stairs. After that, I guess all bets are off.
Live in florida or texas and put them down if they are in your house. And get a pat
On the back
Letting a burglar know where you are allows him to use deadly force against you. You don't want to regret that decision. God, I'm glad I live in Arizona.
For a split second they will know where I am, I'm where that penetrating shot came from.
It's a roll of the dice like they said. Most times they will leave but if they're crazy enough and want to target you /find you since you'll know where the valuables are then announcing yourself is taking away an advantage.
@@sbot8158 They have already targeted you. You don't want to "roll the dice" on an issue this critical. Use the advantage and take them down.
One night me and my boyfriend took our Ambien 10 mg to sleep. And we slept thru our neighbor's brother shooting tru over front window into our back windrow. One bullet through the China cabinet and one bullet through the wall, and three barking Chihuahuas dogs. Every door in our house was open the guy thought we were hiding his wife. My boyfriend has three guns in between our mattress it would have been a shoot out and all of us would have been died. Hahaha. Ambien saved our lives.
@@valeriesmith3218 You have a strange way of looking at this.
Wow...We are afraid of protecting ourselves from the criminal because we fear that the scumbag has more rights that we do...
I'm afraid to protect myself because I'm a sissy dandy.
@@bowtieguy85 True story.
@bobp7542 I'm with you. Welcome to America and criminal defense lawyers...
This is really good advice and I understand his point about regret. The problem I have is when do you know the bad guy has actually left and how many? Getting your weapon, calling 911 and getting behind something is a lot to do out of a dead sleep. I sure as hell am not announcing to the perp that I am armed and to leave the wife and I alone. With kids that's a tough call. Not macho at all, but pretty sure it's better to be aggressive and not passive in that case and be over one way or the other.
I usually wait to call 911 till long after the intruder as left and I've managed to free myself from the ropes and handkerchiefs.
@@bowtieguy85 how many times have you had to do this? I'm an old woman in a remote part of the US, and I've never had anyone except a lover come into my house that I wasn't expecting.
@@sarahdy496 only a handful
Here in Liberal Canada, A criminal has more rights in MY home, than I do....
I've heard the horror stories from there.
Canada Boyee
Same as New York State. Criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.
Same as California smh 🤦🏽♂️
Illinois, too.
If someone breaks into my house I'm not assuming nothing!!!! I'm not assuming they are there for just material stuff!! They are there to harm me and my family plain and simple!!!! I was born and raised in Texas and I will protect my family at all costs!!!!!
It is a sad deal when someone breaks into your house and you have to be concerned about there Rights.
My 110 lb Rotwiler don’t care about anyone’s rights but his own
@@plightfoot8491 and probably his food and you
What Rights? Their right to said Rights is revoked the moment they decided to be a danger to someone's well-being.
If someone breaks into my home, I am not letting them know where I am. The element of surprise could be the deciding factor whether or not you live or die.
If I don't protect my livestock, farm equipment, and the like, then my family would fail. Some call it property, I call it livelihood, and will protect it all anyway I can.
Shoot, shovel, shut up.
Words to live by.
@@richardsanchez7791 Amen, Praise the lord and pass the ammunition
They probably aren't after your livestock and farm equipment. They're after stuff inside your home (cash, guns, jewelry, ect), your wife, and your daughter. That's the world today.
@@Enjoyer.762 Just last year the neighbors down the way had a tractor, 3 implements and a sidexside stolen. Cattle are taken around here on a semi regular basis. How do you know what is in the heart, mind, or stomach of the criminal? Maybe in suburbia or disgusting cities what you say is all there after, but here, folks are just as likely to want what I pointed too. No disrespect, we live remote enough that if you don't have a 4x4 or horse you aren't making out here unless you walk and the nearest public road is 5 miles South and a creek crossing. People get hungry when they are lost or strung out.
taking away a mans way to provide for his family is the same thing as killing that man and his family in my opinion
It's terrible that this nation has devolved to a point that defending your home and property has become a liability for the homeowner/"good guy". Our values have seriously deteriorated when we're supposed to accept someone breaking and entering and hide from them while they take what they choose of your life's work and if we do take action against them there is the distinct possibility that we as "good guys" will end up in worse trouble than the perp.
I agree. It's insane. It's my property I paid for it and what's on or in it and a criminal has a right to come there and take it!
The value of a life is generally greater than your property, but the bigger issue is shooting someone after the threat is eliminated or if there was no alternative means of stopping them, or recovering the property, though state laws do vary. For example, say you shoot an injure a person, they are on the ground and you finish them off... you may have just committed a murder. You should in principle do the minimum necessary to stop the threat or crime, see local laws for specific details.
Plus Even more important... you may not know if the intruder is armed... you dont want to get you, or your family/friends shot if you can avoid it.
@@timthorson52 I wholly disagree that the life of a criminal is of greater than property, mine or anyone else's. These criminals do nothing positive for our society, they add no value to our lives or to society other than perhaps to keep insurance companies in business and people employed in jails, law enforcement and the courts. They go through the system time and again only to re-offend and generally the level of crime escalates. The rate of recidivism is incredible. Meanwhile we live in fear of them and are their prey. They certainly have no concern for the value of my family's or my life. Whoever came up with the idea that the life of a criminal has value to anyone other than him/her self, and perhaps their family, has never been harmed by criminal thugs or lives in some Utopian dreamworld. Where I live if someone breaks into your home you have the right to shoot them whether they are armed or not if you are in fear of your life. If someone has used enough force to break into my home I am automatically in fear of my life because assume they are willing to use force against me in order to steal my property. I have no guarantee they won't harm or kill me or my family if I don't defend myself. Castle doctrine is a very old legal principal and applies. I wouldn't shoot any more than required to stop the threat but a 12 gauge doesn't usually leave a criminal alive after a 5 or 10 yard shot and it's my belief that it requires at least two shots to stop a drug crazed criminal and these days more often than not criminals are using drugs. If they should expire before authorities can be called and for EMS to arrive so be it. Life choices have consequences. I agree that finishing a perp off after the threat is stopped is a bad idea for legal reasons and little else. One thing every law abiding citizen should so is watch the video called "Don't Talk to Police". If you do talk to them you may be in more trouble than the criminal who threatened your life while robbing you because our legal system is rigged against law abiding citizens who defend themselves, more now with anti gunners in high places than ever before.
@@pyromedichd1 I'm going to generally agree with you. Except to that first part about them having no value. We don't know the circumstances of other people's lives, why they are commiting a theft, whether it's desperation or as a career.
If you are in fear of your life its okay to defend yourself and potentially your property, but perhaps one should avoid seeking the fight and instead threaten them with law enforcement or other things first before jumping into a gunfight with a potentially armed intruder.
As they pointed out while you don't necessarily want to expose your position it may be a good idea to warn the intruder so you can give them the chance to withdrawl.
@@timthorson52 IMHO, the circumstances of people's lives is 99% a matter of choice on their part and a sorry excuse for stealing the property of others. There are help wanted signs everywhere you look, plenty of jobs for anyone willing to work. Everyone in this country has the opportunity to get a High School degree. There are plenty of construction jobs where people can start as a helper and learn a trade. I grew up in a poor family, poor enough that we ate oatmeal for dinner plenty of times because we couldn't afford anything else yet my dad always stayed employed, worked as many jobs as necessary to be sure Mom, my sister and I had food and a roof over our heads. In other words people who choose to steal, for the most part, create their own circumstances. Far too many people today feel entitled to have what others work for whether they work for it or not. Look at the number of times we see stores raided by gangs of thugs stealing what they desire with no consequence. Our current legal system seems to make a game of it with no cash bail and releasing criminals back on the streets to offend again. Plenty use drugs or other intoxicants by choice, not because someone forced them to become addicts. No matter what we all pay hefty taxes to support people with food stamps, welfare, WIC and many other government (taxpayer) funded programs so there's no excuse to steal. If someone breaks into my home it is them who sought the fight, not me. I was living in my home peacefully enjoying what I've worked for. If they happened to try to break in and I became aware I might yell a warning to stop but if they continue the outcome is on them. If they are already in my home it's game on, no warning. Why give them a chance to return another day when I am perhaps less prepared, asleep in bed or not home?
I have 40 years living under this dome and I've never think or try to breaking into nobody's house, cause i know is wrong i got no right to do so, and i was raised with values....
100 percent Disagree! Winning is absolutely blowing away the bad guy. He broke into my house, with me and my family in it, he absolutely deserves to die. Period. If he’s dead I don’t have to hope he doesn’t hurt me or my family, he cannot repeat offend, and a message gets sent to the world about the wisdom of breaking and entering! AND you have just made the world a better place for everyone still living in it! Obviously my first priority is to keep my family safe, but once that’s done to the best of my ability, then it’s time to end that guys life. Period.
Best advice for home defense....have security layers:
1) Home security system/cameras (at the minimum signage indicating there is one)
2) Lighting around the house and elimination of any hiding spots (vegetation, yard waste, fencing, etc)
3)A dog (or choice early warning system)
4) Reinforced locks, door jams, hinges
5) A firearm...this should be your last line of defense, if none of (or all) deterred the criminal from still attempting and gaining entry into your home, then God be with him and you. It is not an easy thing taking a man's life.
I should not have to spend a zillion bucks on those things when my .30 carbine, AR or pistol would be a more cost effective "home security system". Not all of us are millionaires. Got it? Comprende? I could come close to affording that stuff (but really can't) and what about people in poverty? Maybe you can donate some high tech stuff to families in need? Seriously, some of you people amaze me. you can't think deeply enough I guess.
@Philosophical Opossum where we live, guns are popular. They are part of a family’s traditions, a tool, an asset.
I have no compassion for a home intruder.
Have I killed a man? Nope. But I’ve had to put animals down. Animals that are respected and have been cared for around the farm. I believe that is a much tougher pill to swallow than putting down a would be attacker who invaded my safe space, my home.
Because of this mentality, we don’t have home invasions. Criminals know the chances of survival are low.
@Philosophical Opossum I agree
@Shy Brotha Speaks how's this for prevention, don't break in, problem solved
@Shy Brotha Speaks that is preposterous, you have not the slightest clue what your talking about lol
I just remembered watch what you say on this subject on ALL social platforms. My CCL instructor as well as a USCCA rep and lawyer told us this. What you put in digital print is out in the public domain pretty much forever. Should you unfortunately be put in the position to have to shoot someone in defense, your statements could be used by the prosecution in a criminal or civil case.
I'm preaching to myself also 1st.
You must be as skillful with the law as you are with your weapon. Be safe out there.
This is why social media is the gayest invention of all time. Always remain anonymous. you should even get a VPN in all honesty
They didn't use Rittenhouse video comments in court. What u say can be use but u just need to get it thrown out.
@@sv2697 depends on how good your legal team is.
@@Hugh_Manitee or how bad the prosecutor is.
It also helps if you encrypt and never use your real name online. Which used to not only be common sense, but it was cringy to not come up with your own unique pseudonym... then Facebook normalized associating social media activity with your real identity. Stupid stuff.
thank you for just dropping the points from the start. thumbs up for the directness so not to bait ppl in.
4. Never call the cops if you live in a remote area and there are no witnesses. 5. Own a backhoe and have a bag of lime on hand. 6. Be sure to remove burglar's cell phone and drive it to a remote location, miles away, and throw it into some deep bushes or woods after wiping prints off of it. Do not remove the battery. 7. Have a nice steak dinner and reward your best friend (s) for barking and letting you know before he got in. 8. Have a night cap and rest, things to do tomorrow.
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'' SHOOT SHOVEL & SHUT UP. '' !
@John McGee LOL LOL LOL. Spoken like a TRUE LIBERAL.
@John McGee You over estimate cops, and probably don't understand the one rule. Only one person can keep a secret. Keep your mouth shut, lawyer up, and remain calm. You're right about one thing, there's a whole lot of idiots out there. Like folks who put their fate in the hands of some loser that took a year of half day classes three times a week to get the shittiest job in the world. You're a sheep, go bleat somewhere else.
@John McGee Depends on where u live. If you're Canadian...yea, better off just handing it yourself.
I heard from a security professional to sleep with your car keys handy and if you hear something suspicious, set off the panic/alarm. Of course that would be while you're getting your other home defense ready. Sounds like a good idea.
Haven’t thought of this ….it’s a good distraction at the least .
Not sure that works for us apartment dwellers 😓
@@ChiakiNanami736 your phone and living room tv or stereo might pull the same effect of course at full volume if you can bluetooth too it but I mean that complicates calling the clean up crew after ….. altho an in home panic alarm like a train horn would wake the whole apartment building maybe even the block in smaller city’s
@Ian actually you can install remote alarms easily even train and or boat fog horns .... I have a pa horn under the hood of a 93 ranger that almost makes your ears bleed within 30 feet
I heard the same thing in TH-cam comments. Sounds like a good idea
I am 73, live alone, in final stages of copd. I had an invasion two months ago and i broke at least three of your three rules. I heard him enter, ( I had been asleep), I left my bedroom, which you could not call a "safe" room in any case. Two things I needed were in the living room, with the intruder. One is my phone, the other was my pistol. I had to get the police and did not want to give him my gun. I yelled in my best army sergeant voice and was stomping towards him wearing only my shorts. A fat ugly old man coming at you can not be what he probably expected. He turned and ran out, I then almost had a personal accident. The police did a trespass on him so I was covered by this state's "stand your ground" law. They caught him couple weeks later on another invasion.
"Two things I needed were in the living room, with the intruder. One is my phone, the other was my pistol." , So what lesson did you learn?
How can you leave a firearm unattended, if not locked?
“The police did a ‘trespass’ on him…” What does that mean? “Don’t mess with old people. The term ‘life in prison’ is less of a deterrent.”
Massachusetts is a retreat state. Well I'm 72, disabled, and alone. I've had 2 hip replacements and 3 knee surgeries in the last 15 years. I'm also diabetic on insulin and use a cane to get around. What am I to do if a bad guy invades my home at 3 am ?
Pray to God to send His angels to protect
Thank GOD I live in a Castle Doctrine State.
"Office, he kicked my door in, shots were fired. I gotta throw up now." That's all that needs to be said.
and don't forget: "I want to talk to my lawyer."
@@darko714 That's what I'm going to be doing in the potty, "Hello USCCA"😁
You don't have to say anything beyond the fact you the home owner or live at that house and that dead thing trespassed, the end.
That’s about the gist of it.
If the bad guy just "goes away", he's free to a) break into someone else's home or b) come back armed with armed friends. Neither is a good choice.
A) is probably true. B) doesn't take into consideration that most criminals are absolutely cowards and just want an easy score. Odds are in your favor that as soon as a bad guy realizes he's blown, he's gonna run and never come back. I would imagine that B) changes some if it's a gang related thing, I don't have a lot of experience with that side of things. Just one mans thoughts on it. Take it for what it may be worth. :-)
While I agree with you that it is infuriating and I would love to stop the crime spree, the attorney made a very valid point. I am not going to ruin my life by spending years in court for defending my stuff. Like he said, that all changes if the criminal decides not to flee. The criminal will lose if I am forced into that situation. The decision to pull the trigger will be made before the criminal gets within arm's reach.
Agreed!
A home invasion in the middle of the night, IMO, is an attack on the security and well being of the residence. Why should a home invader have any rights what so ever? This person(s) have decided that they are above the law. To end this type of behavior, anyone that thinks of doing this should understand that they forfeit their rights as citizens of society. I don't pretend to know their motive for breaking into my home, I do know that this is an attack on the safety of my family. That attack must be stopped, immediately and decisively.
LOL They do have a right to a fair trial then spending time in the state pen because the DA's office did it's job.
@@ScrappyXFL so then our tax dollars are supporting them?
@@GB-zi6qr Unfortunately yes. We pay to prosecute and sometimes defend them, then to house them. I agree with my Sheriff on saving the tax payers money on getting enough training you end it all right then and there. The victims of a home invasion have more rights than the criminals here in FL. Both Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground down here. Not kill with impunity, you just end any conflict then and there.
Tbh any lawyer worth their weight in salt should be able to redeem you in court based on this comment. It is a reasonable attempt to your health and safety if someone breaks into your home at anytime during the day, but especially night.
@@lablunt6190 Another truth. People are most likely to be home at night, so their expecting conflict if not intent on it.
Thanks for your explanations. This gave me a different perspective on things in the event of a home invasion.
This is why castle doctrine and stand your ground laws need to be mandatory in every single state.
Agreed. The fact that the 3rd Amendment wasn't "Stand your ground/Castle" shows that our founding fathers believed the 2nd Amendment should have been enough...they are probably be rolling in their graves with how insane our country has become.
Thank goodness we have it in FL
(edit) should have said "both in FL"
SMH...I've seen these criminals come back to the same house which ultimately ends up with force being used. I'm not looking over my shoulder and waiting for them to come back. I don't like revealing my location and giving up my element of surprise
That is not self defense that is an ambush lol. You probably shouldn’t have guns
@@Boskibro ambush?! They're in his house illegally!!!
I'm with you on that ! If they break in my home ,they not ever breaking in one again! And Im not calling anyone, my house ,my laws inside
Bottom line is it's harder for a homeowner to defend themselves w/out repercussions than it is for the criminal (and his/her family) who did the crime!
I dated this antigun lady for a time, and once she asked me "if you're gonna carry, are you mentally ready to take another person's life, even if it is to save yours?", and to this day I say NO, obviously NO ONE is prepared for it, she argued that -somehow- the police and military were the only ones "trained" for that…
Dang! There is no training in this world that will get you ready to take someone's life, even if you're military or police. It is like a stain that cannot be removed, like a wound that would never heal.
If someone broke into her house armed with a gun and threatened her or her children she might think twice, NO ONE is prepared to take a life not even Police it's something they try not to do only if
1 A member of the public was at risk of been shot.
2 Was his or her partner was at risk of been shot.
3 was that Police officer at risk of been shot, then they are justified in taking the shot, and it is a body mass shot, he may live he may not. Luck is not on his side
A home break in is a lot different than a home invasion. If a bad guy breaks in you house knowing you are there then he's likely expected the worst.
Here is the problem with an artificially constructed scenario. In reality, you rarely know whether the bad guy knows that you're there or whether he knows that you know he's there. Always put self defense first. That way, you're prepared for every scenario. Then you can decide to use statistics to your advantage and scare home invaders off by telling them your presence and readiness for defense.
Semantics.
Daytime break-in they’re coming for your stuff. Night time break-in they’re coming for you.
@@Thejoeordinary1 Any time, they could be coming for both. I've had tons & tons of incidents of both at any and all times, from common street goons to corrupt police officers. Canadians cannot legally use anything for self defense except our own bodies, and I'm not a very big guy.
@@Thejoeordinary1 Both of our breaking were afternoon/early evening and they were only after our stuff.
You should never leave more than 1 story for the cops to hear .
Spent 27 years dealing with the aftermath of violence in a non- LE capacity. I know the damage a handgun can do. That's why I am defending my house with an AR. This guy's advice only benefits people who survive the encounter.
AR sucks basically just a toy. Get a Galil or an Aug. Just my experience obviously use what you like.
@@niksatt4843 better yet a 300 blackout in a 9inch barrel ar with a small can. Quiet enough to knick the edge off but still traveling fast enough to penetrate body armor
@@MichaelHoward-td9qm I like the way you think sir
I’d probably go with a shotgun rather than a rifle for home defense.
@@Aikano9 Agree. Just point and deliver. No specialized preparation required. Just a little cleanup in the house needed afterwards. Insurance claim filing.
TIP: You need a good quality deadbolt (grade 1 or 2) WITH 3" or 3.5" screws in the strike plate and hinges. Otherwise most doors can be easily be kicked in. 😉
Make your house as hard as possible to get in, force them to make a lot of noise to get into your house and give you as much time as possible to prepare before they get in. Most people will give up if it's too hard. Good air horn will also make them think twice seeing it will draw attention as well, seeing alarms normally only go off after they are inside.
One thing I want to add to this list is to ALWAYS give your address to dispatch first before describing what is going on. This way if you get cut off they at least have your address.
Unfortunately, many 911 operators have a list of questions that they insist you answer before they will take any information you want or feel the need to give them.
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@@brxtmp106 Doesnt matter what "list" the 911 operator has. Give the address first. Everything is being recorded so if the call is disconnected, they have that info. Also, its not the persons (who is calling 911 for help) responsibility to follow a "script". The person only has one job and that is to relay the necessary info to get help to the location ASAP. Some lawyers even say be as brief as possible - location, incident, help needed (fire, rescue, police, etc), and then hang-up.
I understand the idea of the "least harm necessary" idea. However, if you don't end this in your own home, the invader now has the ability to do this to someone else in their home.
Yeah my son and I are always looking to avoid getting harmed, that's why we never hesitate to throw our hands up and do as we're told.
Quit shooting black peoples
You make a funny, right?@@bowtieguy85
One thing about # 2: one thing we used to teach people WAS to shout you are there, 911 has been called, and you WILL defend yourself. THEN don't let them see you if at all possible. If you had a family plan (as all families should) THAT is the moment your kids are joining you and whomever else to either hunker down or use an established escape route.
It may scare some folks, but it generally tended to work amd we apprehended a LOT (!!!) of bad guys.
They are us because my son and I are waiting for them on the other side of the door with our hands in the surrender position. The only thing we're saying is take whatever you want just please don't hurt us.