Strang 1 Hi! So if someone was saying like their girlfriend just hit them, and somebody said “you got hit by a girl?!” Would somebody say well she should’ve known better than to hit! That is correct she should’ve known better, well the point of this comment is that it would be rude to a woman because it makes us feel weak and like we are not strong at all, and it makes the man feel weak( since they’re is some stereotype that women are just super weak) so he would feel weak for being hit by another person/or the other gender. What you said isn’t really the point of this comment, this comment is just addressing that you know it’d be rude to both genders. You know? Have a nice day!
It is all about protecting female perpetrators of domestic abuse and forcing male victims into submission. We live in a misandrist society where women are privileged. The society wants women to go unpunished for crimes against men and force men to accept abuse by women.
Once I was racing a boy, don't know why, we were just racing. He lost the race. All of a sudden, a boy came from literally out of nowhere and said to my friend "Hey, that's a girl you know. You should've won." Now you may think that this was only upsetting for my friend, but actually, it really upset me too. And yes, I understand it upset him as well, but it really hurt my feelings.
NG not all boys and all girls are made the same way. before and during puberty, women grow and mature way faster than men, but later they catch up. At my middle school, my girls track team won every single yeah btw lol 😆
@@papajones432 But...that's not true though. Just because you're flexible doesn't mean you're automatically faster than your next door neighbor. On average, the body of a man is literally faster and stronger than a women's. I have no idea what you're talking about..
@@jojoyayathereal fr. The woman version of this states that "men don't hear those comments at all", while this one is labeled as "hurts everyone", like the fact that it hurts the man principally is not important.
@@abodieqwerty4678 But it does hurt everyone. All of these comments are ultimately degrading to women and girls because they treat being like a girl as an insult or a bad thing to avoid, or because they treat women like property and/or reduce them to sexist insults, or because they act like the man should be the one with the power in the relationship.
Sad to see how both genders have it bad. Why can’t we just have peace in the world. Like I don’t get why us humans have to hate so much and say harsh words to each other.. it sucks
Sarah Houfani jeez I hate when people say a colour has a gender. Like a guy I know LOVES pink. And I see nothing wrong with it. No colour is a “girl” colour or “boy”. Honestly makeup, and nails and clothes don’t have a gender either. People should just let others live how they want
if it wasnt seen as bad to be a woman because we may be more emotional etc then we probably wouldn't have these problems. but sexism to girls affects boys too. it would be much better if we normalized emotions because emotion is strength and if you can show your emotions you ARE powerful.
48 things men hear in a lifetime that women almost never do. 1) "Well, sure, you're the only one covered in bruises, but if you don't leave the house willingly, we're going to have to arrest you." 2) "Yes, we're aware there was no evidence of abuse that we could find, but if you want to see your kid you'll have to come up with the fee for the court-ordered supervision." 3) "You're responsible for your estranged spouse's legal fees, as well as your own." 4) "You can't sell your house without your wife's permission. Yes, we know the title is solely in your name, but it's the law (in Michigan, possibly elsewhere)." 5) "You're married? Oh, I'm sorry, but you can't undergo surgical sterilization without a signed release form from your spouse." 6) "Well, yes, we understand the pregnancy was accidental, but we're going to force you to become a parent." 7) "If you can't support your daughter, the least you could do is what it takes to get her death benefits." (this incitement to suicide was said by a judge when a father requested to reduce child support due to being laid off) 8) "It's okay, baby. No need to cry so much. It's just a little snip. There's my tough little guy." 9) "You don't want to have sex with me? What are you, gay?" 10) "Well, if you don't know what you did wrong, *I'm* certainly not going to tell you." 11) "Your SO hit you? What did you DO?" 12) "It's your duty." 13) "I heard a noise downstairs! Go see what it is!" 14) "I'd never have sex with someone who hasn't been circumcised!" 15) "Intact genitals are gross!" 16) "You're expelled for engaging in a drunk hook-up." 17) "Sure, you were passed out, but what happened to you wasn't rape." 18) "We're awarding you the kids because you're the better parent. (generally, the mother has to be seriously unfit, not just not as competent)" 19) "What's wrong with you? Why haven't you proposed yet?" 20) "What are you doing for your SO on Valentine's Day?" 21) "You have a collect call from [your child]. Do you wish to accept the charges? (on Father's day, the day of the year when the highest volume of collect calls are made)" 22) "Are you just going to let him talk to me that way?!" 23) "You just don't listen to me!" 24) "You're emotionally unavailable!" 25) "Your ego is so fragile." 26) "You always get so whiny when you're sick." 27) "You're taking me for granted." 28) "You just have to try harder to make your partner happy. Your partner is worth it." 29) "Withholding sex or affection from your SO is a form of emotional abuse." 30) "Your partner has a "relationship problem". What you did was abuse. (Dr. Phil, referring to a man who pushed his wife onto the bed so he could leave a situation where she was physically assaulting him)" 31) "Just stand up for yourself!" 32) "You are NOT going to my friend's wedding dressed like that!" 33) "You should rent your wedding outfit." 34) "It's been ages since you took me anywhere!" 35) "You never do anything to make me happy!" 36) "Oral? Ew, you're joking." 37) "Get lost, creep." 38) "As if, loser." 39) "Your tears are delicious!" 40) "What do you mean, you want to be a stay at home parent?" 41) "You don't appreciate me." 42) "You're dating someone younger? Pedo!" 43) "If you're walking behind someone at night, you should cross the street so as not to frighten them." 44) "The only reason you're contesting custody is to control and abuse your ex-partner." 45) "I don't care how you feel!" 46) "Sorry, I don't date anyone shorter than me." 47) "Running away? What a loser!" 48) "Welcome to your mandatory sexual consent workshop."
+karen straughan 5) "You're married? Oh, I'm sorry, but you can't undergo surgical sterilization without a signed release form from your spouse." Holy shit, what? This can't be as insane as it sounds, right? Please tell me where this is a law. 7) "If you can't support your daughter, the least you could do is what it takes to get her death benefits." (this incitement to suicide was said by a judge when a father requested to reduce child support due to being laid off) WHAT THE FUCK?? Source??? (Also, please do a Rantzerker on this one too!)
+ApocalypticSalad 5) I'm actually pretty certain this is technically against the law, but it doesn't stop lots of doctors from requiring a permission slip from wifey. 7) It was an anecdote from a guy who was sitting on a Friday afternoon watching all the child support cases run past a judge.
Look at the video title. Look what you put in the parentheses. Notice it is *not equal* to what you put in the title of the women's 48 things. All you had to do was write the same words with men and women swapped,, but you couldn't even do that. Both of the videos used parentheses to bolt the same essential message onto the title, and it's a resounding "Men aren't hurt as much as women." What if I think men are hurt more? ..... Let me guess..... I'm not a real man.
+DoctorRandomercam No... You seem to just be biased. www.upworthy.com/48-surprisingly-damaging-things-that-men-hear-all-the-time?c=ufb1 Give this a read.
Naw, not "not a real man". Just... biased. :/ And if men are getting their own sexist debilitating comments that value some things and quash down others (physical strength over mental stability for example) we raise a generation of debilitated little boys grown into men by sheer virtue of their age. :/
***** Why do you people obsess over a few words that make little actual difference? Did you even /watch/ the video? Because that's where the REAL message lies.
***** You're going too far. You keep looking for something that isn't even there. What is the video trying to tell you? It's saying men have heard these DISSES in their lifetimes. What is the title telling you? It's telling you TO NOT DISS MEN for showing a feminine side. Is it that hard to see that? Why do you keep going around looking for things to crap on?
48 Things Men Hear In A Lifetime (That Are Bad For Everyone) 48 Things Women Hear In A Lifetime (That Men Just Don't) Nice equality going on there with your titles. I suppose you framed it this way because you want "what women hear" to be considered special and "what men hear" to just be wrong. Had you posted them with the same title, this video would have undermined the other... which it still does. As a man these mean nothing to me, in fact things said to me growing up help me grow as a person and helped overcome REAL obstacles and problems. It makes you stronger! Seems like you think women are too fragile, should be sheltered and men should feel the same way. Tell you what...here's an idea for a third video, splice them both together and call it "72 things PEOPLE hear in a lifetime" and realize how asinine the whole thing is. If you're easily offended by anything of these, you fail as a human. Man/Woman up and move on!
Because women have it worse, bud, like it or not. Also nice to see that toxic masculinity made you "stronger". We love a competent and healthy individual!
48 Things Men Hear in A Lifetime (That Are Bad For Everyone) 48 Things Women Hear in A Lifetime (That Men Just Don't) Do better next time Huffington. You couldn't even make the titles equal. And the subject of the male video is way too tied to women and not nearly focused enough on male exclusive issues. I would of loved to see things like, "all men are rapists" "under no circumstances do you hit a woman" "a guy must ask the girl out" "a guy always pays" and many other damaging things we hear. But I have a feeling it wouldn't go with your agenda/narrative. Even though this video was supposed to be directed towards men, you found a way of directing it towards women.
Yes but they litteraly are bad for everyone Example: "You got hit by a girl?" Yes, it's upsetting for the man in this scenario. Being told that your weak is never a nice feeling. But it's also upsetting for the woman. Being told that because your a girl men will always be stronger then you really pushes you down.
Well, the women once where nearly entirely sexist towards women, while the man once are sexist towards both, because they say to have “feminine qualities” (See the sexism here?) is bad.
If you are a young male or a man, it is BAD. How can a male be a man if he is feminine? MAN= MASCULINITY WOMEN= FEMININITY The two are OPPOSITE but compliment each other. They NATURALLY attract eachother.
@@strang1124 thats what we call toxic masculinity my guy, only expecting men to be masculine and strong is a big reason for why a lot of guys are jerks. Whenever a guy tries to understand girls problems or does anything feminine he gets called a simp. Men should be allowed to be feminine without being called names, this is all a social construct, its okay :). Society just made you think thats how it should be but thats not true. I know youre going to disagree, so respond to me once you put on a skirt and understand that gender roles are made up by men who just want power
Look, a jerk is a jerk because he is selfish & has other problems or maybe he is doing the right thing but you don't like it. When a man calls a women out on her BS. He is a jerk because you don't like it. A man will hold the righteous ground. A simp or or less than a man will cower to FEELINGS instead of what is right. That is called LEADERSHIP. Remember; LEADER, PROTECTOR & PROVIDER? Look, the sexes are born different because our rolls in life are different. Therefore what is expected from each sex is different. That is BASIC human.
@@strang1124 you completely ignored everything I said. Men get called a simp for simply BEING NICE to a woman, so meaning that men should be dicks to women or they'll get made fun of, TOXIC MASCULINITY. Yes we are born different, but we don't get to choose that now, do we? Men and women are seperated into groups, for what's socially acceptable and what not. Men need to be masculine and strong while women should be and pretty and gentle. What I'm trying to say is that It's a social construct that men should be masculine, it does not have to do with biology or genetics, you're taught from a young age that you should stick to what gender roles your sex has. It does not make a man any LESS of a man to out some makeup and a skirt on. They still have their genitals, don't they?(I'm not saying that everyone with a penis is a man, just saying it doesnt make them a woman when they simply just put on a skirt) We're not given "rolls" at birth, we're humans not fucking wolves.
Honestly even as a girl the whole “Boys can’t hit girls” and the “you got punched by a girl?” triggers me so much does that mean I can beat a boy to a pulp but he can’t defend himself? I’d rather have him punch me back then all his friends scream “YOU CANT HIT HER SHES A GIRL” or all start laughing at the poor boy saying “YOU GOT PUNCHED BY A GIRL?! WEAK”
I think boys should definitely be able to defend themselves, but I would encourage them to use the least amount of aggression/force necessary (for men and women, but especially if the person is smaller/weaker). Violence against women is sadly a huge issue still, so emphasizing that boys/men shouldn't hit women or girls is an important societal message, but I agree, in self defence you must protect yourself even if it is a man protecting himself from a woman.
@@melshortir I agree with half of what you said. if violence against women is a huge issue then violence against men is gargantuan. you cannot sit here and imply that women face more violence than men, because it's simply not true.
@@Alex-ug9wx Yes that's true, but I'd suggest most (obviously not all) the violence men experience is suffered by other men inflicting it. So maybe just encouraging men (or everyone I guess) to be less violent generally is the way to go?
Notice half the insults towards men were actually implying they were feminine. Equating femininity with "bad" and "weak" is part of the issue, and promotes sexism implying anything feminine (and therefore women in general) are subpar. So in this case, they are bad for everyone and put down women as well. (the comment is copied)
It's to show that the bad things men hear are just as damaging to girls as they are to guys, whether you like it or not, you'll never be able to play the "both sides" card, because our society is very patriarchal and misogynistic, and women are oppressed more than men, and have been for centuries. Most things that men are told that hurt them aren't just bad for them, they're bad because they compare men to women or imply that men should be above/degrade women in some way. Because the worst thing this society thinks that you can be is a woman. Even though that's not true.
First of all, is the Duluth Model used everywhere? Second of all do all feminists back it? Third of all, are all feminists the same, or do they have exactly the same views? Inform yourself.
+Frank vb How about I propose a better question? Would it exist without feminists creating and supporting it? The answer is no. So can we blame feminists for it's existence? YES!
Would feminists exist (even just under that name) if there wasnt a problem in society regarding the relation between men and women? This line of thinking doesnt favour your argument.
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funny how this says (that is bad for everyone) the female one doesnt.
@@locath1939 lmao men get a lot more shit when it comea to hearing things . Maybe not when it comes toa actions . The shit in the other vid with women apply to a ton of men too , like the being hit thing , a lot of content , including shows , portray toxic relationships where women beat up a guy and it's love or something and it slowly develops in to a crush . I am not joking even cartoons for children have that .. so it's just sexist bullshit
Thanks for this, guys. As a woman with a lovely little brother, I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing this shit said about my brother, and TO my brother. It's not fair that we label sexism as something ONLY women go through. It's not. Just because we report sexism towards women more, and just because we view it as more wrong, does not make sexism the other way alright. So-called "feminists" who believe you cannot be sexist towards a man are in and of themselves sexists, and are NOT feminists and should NEVER call themselves that. They don't stand for this woman, and they don't stand for the majority of people, either. This is another reason why gender inequality harms everyone - by reinforcing those stereotypes, we reinforce that women are weak and men are strong. Or if you prefer, we see women as emotional and men as cold automatons. Men are expected to "tough it out", women are expected to share feelings. I will NEVER get the same amount of flack for wearing a suit that my little brother would get from wearing a dress, and I will NEVER be expected to cut my daughter's genitals the way I am expected to cut my son's. I will NEVER be told my daughter is "confused" for playing with boy's toys the way boys are told about playing with girl's toys. My daughter will be believed if she's raped or domestically abused by a man, but my son will not be believed if a woman rapes/abuses him. I don't have to worry that the court will give custody of my kids to my abusive husband the same way my brother would worry that the court would give his children to his abusive wife. I will never be considered a "deadbeat mom" the same way my little brother would be a "deadbeat dad" if we both divorced our respected SOs and ended up going our separate ways. It's just pervasive. It's pervasive and I hate it, and it seems almost WORSE than the sexism I face as a woman because it's not called attention to the same way sexism towards women is.
They probably did this video after seeing the amount of hate they got on the last one. İf they were to be left free they wouldnt even do this. So, i think we should be thankfull for this lol.
While I do appreciate that Huff-Po did end up making this video (hopefully in the interest of fairness/equality and not because the last one got disliked so much), I feel I must point out the following concerns. The last video was 48 Things Women Hear (THAT MEN JUST DON'T) while this one is subtitled (THAT ARE BAD FOR EVERYONE). This is inherently (and probably deliberately) unequal, not to mention some of the things that men DO in fact hear some of the things on the women's list. A lot of people complained that the women's video had a lot of "compliments." While I don't completely agree with this sentiment, very few of such analogs are present in this video. "Positive" statements CAN ALSO be psychologically distressing for men/boys if they they reaffirm lifestyle choices they're not interested in. More importantly it's clear that this video ONLY touches on CERTAIN KINDS of bad things men hear, particularly regarding emasculation. While these statements are certainly something to be concerned over, including JUST them opens the door for "Well, when men are treated unfairly, it's because they're "acting like women. So really, this is just another form of Misogyny!" I feel this is an oversimplification, and am suspicious that Huff-Po INTENTIONALLY did this. Accordingly, here are a few things that did NOT make their list (that perhaps should have): - Foreskins are gross - Women prefer a guy who's circumcised - Never hit a woman, even if she hits you first - You should make sure to get a Pre-nup. - You like kids? Are you some kind of pedo? - It's your duty to die for your country if it comes to that - It might be your baby but it's HER body - You want to be an (artist/schoolteacher/etc.)? How will you provide for your family? - Men can't be raped - Only men can rape
@@shhitsironic2663 They could change the title of the original video about women at any time. I know, because a video on VICE's channel I was featured in that was originally titled, "meet the women of the men's rights movement" was retitled 3 weeks after publication to, "MRAs think rape victims deserve it." It's totally like they can change the title of any video to suit whatever agenda they want.
@@girlwriteswhat I think they realized they couldn't change the title because they already made a title card in the video and they couldn't cut that part out
@@saltytoshiro3685 they're complaining about femalws being used to make them look weak and ect meanwhile yall are making degrading jokes about women. And getting offensive about a women being better then you because she's a female. Yall are such babies its ridiculous
@@arilee9097It's not about being compared to women, it's about societal ridicule for something you have no control over. It's the exact same as if someone were to mock you for not being able to cook as good as your husband, but the difference is that ones a skill while the other is biology. It's a biological fact that men are innately stronger than women, so to be weaker than a woman would make you feel like you're less of a man as that is what society teaches us. We're taught to be a man, while women are taught to do whatever they want. Also, HuffPost purposefully painted this to try and make it seem like the only things that men suffer from are related to emasculation so that it looks like any discrimination towards men is actually misogyny. In reality, there is a lot more. One of the things we go through are semi-endearing compliments, just like women. So HuffPost is purposefully trying to get this exact reaction you gave.
@@saltytoshiro3685 thats not what I'm talking about. I'm saying yall really belittle females because we are females. As if we are inferior to yall. You guys are using us, only females as an insult to a male because we are considered under your gender. Do not justify the lack of respect for females in these words of offense for yall
i am so sorry if you heard these before. i personally don't care about your height, if you're "too emotional" or if you also like girly stuff like makeup and painting your nails. it's beautiful to have feelings and expressing yourself to the world!! and i support you!! all women and men should be equal!
+Titus Tucker What I heard all my life is that boys didn't cry because we were taught not to. Then it turns out men does not cry as much as women because our tear ducts are of a larger diameter and takes longer to fill up. But the feminists STILL push the myth that men don't cry because they are being taught not to. What the fuck?
+Seybertooth Actually in older generation both men and women didn't used to cry all that much. It wasn't a productive use of time and as such both sexes were much much more stoic. Most men these days are quicker to cry that women of 100 years ago. The fact is that the image of women being fainting violets is a very modern thing and even today is still not really true. For males it has always been important to be able to control your emotions, to keep your family your children safe. I was always taught that It was ok to cry in a safe place but never to loose control of my emotions in public, that to do so would be selfish. Because allowing myself to loose control would put the lives of those I care about in danger. After enough time it just becomes habit and you just don't cry anymore. So it's not that "boys don't cry" it's that boys or girls shouldn't have such a lack of control of their emotions as to be unable to control them. Also I should note that being able to control your emotions is a crisis is something that you don't just learn on the spot it takes years of practice.
+Titus Tucker To be fair its not really that men/boys dont cry ever. Its more dont cry over nothing. Noone will say that a father crying over a dead child or a man over a dying friend/relative is unmanly. But you may be given some grief if you are crying over something that doesnt matter or doing it for attention (or perceived attention at least).
That last one, irritates me the most. Just because I'm not rebuilding engine blocks while chugging Budweiser does not mean I'm not a man. I mean really.
Because it acknowledges the sexism that men face, an issue that has been largely overshadowed and downplayed by militant feminists who want to believe only women can be victims. Also, the similar video about what women hear in their lifetime was hardly gender specific, and was hardly sexism.
+supermonkeyyyyyy Its all about viewcount. On any channel the first viewers are mostly fans which gives a better like-dislike ratio for a while. Only when it goes viral, many outsiders are exposed to it, making the ratio reflect popular opinion.
This one is just as heartbreaking as the women’s one. It’s heartbreaking to know that people every day experience things like this. Why can’t we put sexual stereotypes aside and start over? Why can’t we live in a world where it doesn’t matter how we choose to live our lives? It’s terrible the things people face on a day to day basis.
thats the thing im sure someone of them are so "masculine" that they don't have that to say and if you see closely there are some straight male in there and they are being said some of them.
All this video is expressing is that men use negative comments about women being in control which offends men, when its offensive yall think its funny to make fun of women
I am a proud feminist and as one I think that part of the problem is the way we teach and oppress men socially. The start to getting rid of toxic masculinity and oppression for everyone is to educate and hold people responsible while also being there for victims of both sexs. And as a sexual assault survivor I sympathize with male victims. I would just as soon help a man that's being assaulted as a woman.
There's worse things we hear. Once you become strong it means less to you and you can enjoy the fine things in life and have a better understanding of life. Hardships are important
none of those things bother me. there are always going to be expectations placed on people. if you're good with yourself you can laugh this kind of stuff off. remember that people that say such things things dont really care about you.
Just to clear things up, as a man I hear this type of thing quite a lot but frankly I do not care. There are bigger things to worry about than a comment like "overcompensating" or "man period". Although this video does show that it does go both ways, what I would suggest is to use this to reflect yourself, we do not care about these comments, quite a few of them are intended to be jokes. We should all just stop whining about these comments and sort out real equality in legal cases and in law rather than 'micro aggressions', etc.
+Markus Brorson That's my point I don't care, you don't care so I think it is ridiculous that we are still debating issues because there are far more important. E.g. The humanitarian crises (not gender problems but people being treated sub humanly regardless of gender) in many countries like Saudi Urabia and Pakistan.
+Wilf Horton Fair points, but it's a tired argument to say you shouldn't give attention to problem A since problems B and C are more important. There's nothing stopping us from giving attention to all of the problems.
+tuila I Have seen so many problems over others, if you really wanted to I could find many links to times when problem A has not been sorted in the name of others. I have never seen feminists campaigning for more than three domestic abuse centres in the UK while there have been dozen of campaigns for more funding to be put into the already plentiful numbers of domestic abuse centres that are exclusively for women.
+tuila and I do agree that all problems that are important should be sorted but it is almost impossible, however much we might want it, to focus on everything. Also a lot has been done about things like this while not focusing on the hundreds of men who will not be allowed to see their children on Christmas Day.
Wilf Horton Your example however, was that somehow focusing on gender inequality weakens our chances of helping people in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, which I think is not true. The institutions and people involved with overseas aid and gender inequality are not the same people and neither are their funders. I know this is a bit of nit-picking, but just saying.
I don't remember this video showing society as criticizing homosexuals. Either way it's not important.. Because for every example you give showing someone who allowed it to affect them I can give you too more who more than fought society's expectations of what a man should be. Since you gave a personal example, I'll give you mine. I was called gay and much much worse than that. Especially through high school. I'm still criticized for not fitting into the stereotype. What people said used to get to me a lot till I realized that there's no point in giving a shit. If you can't stand up for yourself or brush off baseless criticism it's not society's fault and it has little to know effect on society at large. I won't tell you to 'be a man' or that garbage. I'll tell you to grow up.
I don't remember this video showing society as criticizing homosexuals. Either way it's not important.. Because for every example you give showing someone who allowed it to affect them I can give you too more who more than fought society's expectations of what a man should be. Since you gave a personal example, I'll give you mine. I was called gay and much much worse than that. Especially through high school. I'm still criticized for not fitting into the stereotype. What people said used to get to me a lot till I realized that there's no point in giving a shit. If you can't stand up for yourself or brush off baseless criticism it's not society's fault and it has little to know effect on society at large. I won't tell you to 'be a man' or that garbage. I'll tell you to grow up.
(I’m a girl) to the ladies saying it’s ok that the titles aren’t equal: the girl one had things that could have been on both genders too. They should have put that same type of title on the girls one if your going to look at it that way. Also, guys have it hard to. ITS NOT A COMPETITION! Everyone has things said to them that are just wrong. And bedsore you’re argue saying that so and so has it harder, it’s not worth it. Everyone had different experiences with different people, and you could never decided which is worse. To the guys: please don’t say that the feminists are the ones doing this. People say they are feminists all the time but if they were they wouldn’t be so hypocritical. Feminists are supposed to realize that we are EQUAL. And to those saying we already have equality, they’re are still cat callers, rapists, and sexists in the world, and no, it will never be perfect but that’s why we are fighting. FOR BOTH SIDES
I am a feminist and I will never not be a feminist. Feminism is about equality for the sexes, no matter what anyone tries to say. However, I agree with you that the video about women should have had the same parenthetical as the men’s video-“that are bad for everyone.” Because men treating women like crap makes women afraid of men and vice versa. The human psyche trains us to see patterns and unfortunately if a woman is targeted by enough men, she will start to be afraid of all men in order to protect herself. It doesn’t mean all men are bad or that she hates all men; she is just using her life experiences so keep herself safe. Anyway, I went on a bit of a tangent here, but yeah. Men and women will never have true social equality until basic gender roles and expectations are eradicated.
Okay, so the 48 things that women hear (that men just don't) hurt women and the 48 things that men hear also hurt women. This is HuffPo's idea of equally addressing issues affecting men and women. If you are not making women out to be victims at all times under all circumstances, you are not doing feminism right.
I think it is interesting, that this clip has the subtitle "That is bad for everyone", while the female clip has the subtitle "That men just don't". Personally, I think that it mirrors the feminism skew perspective: Men are always guilty, and woman never can do wrong.
Notice half the insults towards men were actually implying they were feminine. Equating femininity with "bad" and "weak" is part of the issue, and promotes sexism implying anything feminine (and therefore women in general) are subpar. So in this case, they are bad for everyone and put down women as well.
I am a girl and coming to this video so I know what men go through so I can understand them more and so I can stop being so sexist about everything. EDIT: Just finished the video. That's fucked up.
I see that lots of people don't quite understand the meaning of this video. It is about gender stereotypes being harmful. Men in our world are meant to be "strong, not emotional, confident, etc" and if one doesn't satisfy these requirements, he is mocked. But the truth is that it is ok to cry if you're a man, it is ok to be gentle, it is ok for boys to play with dolls etc. The fact that some people have a penis should never define their emotional life (or any other its area). E.g. keeping in feelings and emotions can cause a depression that will lead to a suicide. Gender roles and stereotypes are very harmful things, whether you are a man or a woman. This is such a good video, seeing all these hateful comments makes me sad.
"I don't date short guys." Lol so, does the purported issue stem from someone having a preference for taller guys, or someone verbalizing their preference for taller guys?
So, I've just watched the other video, 48 things women hear that men don't, and there you claim men don't hear "It's that time of the month." Yet, in this video, you claim that men hear "Dude, are you on your period." Make up your goddamn mind.
Personally I think that these videos are true to their titles. Things that were being said in the video about women aren't commonly said to men. Like when was the last time a person was surprised when they found out a guy was into video games? When was the last time men were reminded of a body clock? Or questioned if they were going to work after the baby was born or judged for leaving the baby for someone else to look after? Men just won't hear that and that was the point. And is there a male equivalent term for cougar cause I don't think so apart from Sugar Daddy and that's actually a business. You can't deny that older men- younger woman couples are more common and accepted than vice versa- men dump older wives for younger women because of their beauty all the time. That beauty for profit exchange is alive and well which goes into the point of physical appearance being a lot more emphasised for women than it is for men. I think there were some stupid ones that I doubt anyone says, probably just one person in that woman's life, like the thing about the eyebrows and the eat, pray love thing- like how are they important really? or sexist? And this one chose to look at harmful insults made by other men to men that hurt women too by putting down feminine qualities. It's not representative of all men, I do admitt. This is only one fraction of what men hear and the issues they face I do admitt. It's obviously more about harmful things said to more effeminate men to shame them and be homophobic which is a serious issue in my opinion but this doesn't target all men and I think another video should be made about more varied experiences and issues that impact men specifically.
Seriously? You people profess to tell *men* what *men's problems* are, got them completely wrong or shallow, and think that having a bunch of manginas doing the speaking is going to make me relax my standard when it comes to dealing with BS? No, sorry, but hell no. I'd have just laughed this video off if this was the first time I run into the stuff this video represents. And yes, I am officially starting to make use of the term "mangina" today. I've had enough with arrogant sanctimonious male Feminists.
I just watched the one about what Women hear and I saw this and thought "I should hear both sides, because it must be awful" and holy hell was I ever right.
I find it really hypocritical how to woman one for hufflost is titled: Things that women hear (And men just don't) and the man one is titled things men hear (That hurts everyone)
I hate that I even heard so many of these myself. "You got beaten by a girl?" and "You're going to accept her doing that?" It so wrong for boys to hear this things. The problem is why they say these things are because in their world the woman are below man. (May not be the exakt way you are thinking in that moment. But that is where the expressions come from.) So if you get beaten by a girl or let a girl boss you around you aren't a man anymore? Because suddenly you are on the same level as the woman and therefor you will be bullied. So please people saying that feminism isn't needed, both men and women are being affected be the patriarchy. Men and women should have the right to be whoever they wanna be, without someone talking bad about them - seeing them less as fulfilled human. I know there is many people who hates the word feminism and the whole message in my comment. I will not reply. Just wanted to rant about all our right to be ourselves. Thanks!
I see a lot of people complaining how the subtitle isn't the same as the other one. Personally I feel this one is more appropriate, because, as you'll notice, some of them were the same. Sexism hurts everyone, this subtitle is much more fitting.
And because they have a following, they will get more views than my video - but the only reason they made this one is because of the shear demand they received.
+Harry John your video was better and they're only doing it cause they got so many negative votes on the other one. too bad they can't make up for it with this crap.
+Harry John I posted this already, but do you notice how they've differentiated the titles? 48 Things Women Hear In A Lifetime (That Men Just Don't) = special and sexist towards women. 48 Things Men Hear In A Lifetime (That Are Bad For Everyone) = wrong and sexist towards women Nice equality going on there.
The guy who said "what are you, gay?" sounded very personal, like he has been told that multiple times and feels hurt by the words, whether he's gay or not.
Naturally, the comments section is rife with misogyny, misandry, and people going at each other's throats instead of realizing that the point of this video is basically saying that men, like women, are restricted based on toxic gender roles and expectations. A lot of the gender roles and limitations placed on men are based on the notion that masculinity is better than femininity, hence why feminine traits have long been used as insults against men who do not fit the hypermasculine profile of what a man should be. For those of you who are bitching that this video derailed from men's issues and instead focused on how these affect women: do you not realize that it affects BOTH men and women?? Men who do not fit society's overly manly image are ridiculed and ostracized. This is the same reason that male domestic violence victims and sexual assault victims have struggled with reporting and discussing their experiences. I don't think the feminist movement is blameless. I consider myself a feminist, but I think that a lot of people, not just men, have been excluded from the discussion (read: White Feminism). The issues that hurt men do need to be addressed. Many of them have their roots in patriarchal values (read: custody laws). At the same time, people try hard to deny the realities of sexism that hurt men and women alike. "MRAs" on here (read: misogynists, not actual people who advocate for men's issues) like to blame women for all societal ills, as evident by some of the overtly hateful comments directed at women on here. These same people like to claim that sexism towards women doesn't exist, despite their open display for it or their reverence for time periods where women were indeed socially restricted. Likewise, there are feminists who have actively excluded men from the discussion of gender injustice, which is not right. Feminism and the MRA are both just movements with several adherents and political positions. Unfortunately, many have used these movements and ideals to promote hatred instead of realizing that they can fight the same fight, which gives justice to both men and women. This certainly does not need to be a men vs. women battle, but rather, a men and women work together to end restrictive and oppressive gender roles that hurt them equally. It doesn't need to be a fight to make either gender superior or in charge. If you advocate for patriarchy or matriarchy, then you don't belong in the equality discussion either way.
+NanuBaby90 Really? The comment section has mostly people who feel outright insulted by the fact that it's petty examples that aren't actual problems men have but even if they were they are posted as problems shared by everyone even though it's supposed to be around men. It's good that you took something nice from this but you are a feminist. You have been taught to agree with these concepts but quite a lot of people think that feminist who speak of these things and enforce these stereotypes and demonize genders for their faults *is the main reason why the genders have negative stereotypes that actually hurt them.* I hope I can nail this in less words than it took for you to make your post because full detail would actually be twice as many lines and words and that includes spaces (which you should try to put in your text after 3 sentences FYI or at the end of every complete thought). Ultimately this video is counter intuitive because IT IS the thing that holds both genders back. If you want an example of actual problems that men face and hear you should see Karen Straughen's comment or I dunno. NOT listen to a video made by an feminist run agenda company and say go to source of Men's issues. www.avoiceformen.com/
How come the title of this isn't 48 Things Men Hear In A Lifetime (That Women just don't) like the last one was only reversed? A genuine question as to why you decided to title these in this way. I think both would have been more true by keeping (That Are Bad For Everyone).
@@jeffisjeff5511 They prob meant feminazis. There are more feminazis than real Feminists these days. But people mix up the two a lot because of the female supremacists.
Because. Yall are literally making fun of males by degrading females. And getting offensive because its a female they are using to hurt your feelings. That shitty. And 100% toxic masculinity
One of the main reasons why so many comments on the 48 Things Woman Hear were about guys asking why there wasn't a list for them was because a lot of things said were mostly just petty insults/compliments from other woman, obviously a man would not hear or say a lot of those things so the point was to bring these issues up to....men only????? So now that you've made a video pointing out things that are said to men in a lifetime they are...bad for everyone and not JUST men because we are going to bring up expected stereotypes that were spouted about...5-10 years ago? Really? The main reason why there were so many complaints is because no major news outlet or what have you is actually willing to talk about real issues that men face such as MGM, male rape, domestic abuse against men, losing child custody cases even when the mother may have been documented as a child abuser, all men are potential rapists, male schoolteachers are 95% thought of as paedophiles (even though woman rape more students than men do) watching ANYTHING not live action makes you an automatic creep/paedo in training etc. and when they finally do: it's either followed by a sarcastic comment or something to the effect of "Yeah, this is something that needs to be fixed; but lemme tell you why this affects woman as well" and if anything else, no one is willing to talk about these issues unless they preface it with heavy, HEAVY "Are they really..." or "Maybe they are..." like preambles; as if even thinking of discussing such things is so horrible when woman are almost on an hourly basis talked about like they are being beaten and spat on for how they are born or constantly chastised for a hobby when all of that shit actually happens to guys only. Of course you can just brush off what I said by claiming "To be really fair: a lot of the things said in the other video were more emotional based than physical" so it's okay to acknowledge an issue as long as it doesn't actually cause real, visible harm to a man as a woman? The fact that the other video listed nothing but things SAID not ACTED on them shows just how comfy they really have things, so it's fine to make it look like men have it the same way, but in order to do that it has to affect everyone, not just the singular gender. I give this video a 8/1000 I give the few digits for at least trying, but if you break the narrative you lose your audience, I understand.
A lot of these are about gay people (which make up a small percent of humanity) so aren't even accurate to most of male population. And the other ones are easily to overcome by... growing a pair! These are '48 Things Wussies Hear In A Lifetime (That Are Bad For Them)' Seriously. I'm a male and I'm pretty sensitive compared to the average man but the real world doesn't revolve around the feelings of someone. The only one which is a problem is the one about 'all men cheat' because it's a generalisation which declares you being uncapable of doing anything about it. All the others are just stupid people saying something stupid stuff about you! Get over it, seriously. Men have bigger problems to deal with in this world.
It's okay if you behave sensitive and your wife makes more money, but you're still going to pay alimony and be responsible for her abusive behavior. Because men ought to do the heavy lifting and pay the rewards to women.
You clearly don't know what feminism is. Its not just about women, even tho its called feminism. You should read more about it instead of jugding likte that before you even know what its really about.
A lot of things said I personally find hurtful too as a woman like dude are you on your period? People are complaining that’s it’s not titled like the women one is but it’s cause women hear this stuff too
+HatedAlways Well, the kid 16 seconds in says "Wow, your so strong". Seriously, the child is supposed to see a compliment as some kind of attack?, how terrible for men to have to deal with compliments... The guy at 1:06 says. "have you ever done a real day of work in your life", I mean, if you assume the person who said this to him didn't know him, they're judging his weight. This is a separate issue (I'm not of the mind that encouraging people to be fat is okay, it's not). How is this comment a thing that MEN have to deal with?, this is someone calling him out because he's fat not because of his genitals. On the other hand if this guy is a complete free loader, are we supposed to encourage him to be a fat mess sitting at home not contributing to society? Where's the problem in calling a lazy prick out whether they are woman or man? The point is all of these 'insults' are completely vapid, why teach men women or children to be victims all the time? How is teaching people to be hurt by completely empty insults making our society better. This is why the video is complete garbage. Does that clear things up?
DaFunk I appreciate the effort (no one else has actually shown this much), thank you. However, what I got from this video is that we're (guys) constantly expected to be some macho, unemotional, do everything person because we're men. I obviously don't agree with every quote in this video (what was with that cocktail line?). How often are we SUPPOSED to make more than our wives? Oh, I don't throw a baseball 90 mph? Am I suddenly emasculated? I don't look macho, so I'm supposed to be bullied? It seems that I got a different message from this video than everyone else. I personally identify with a decent amount, and I'm sure other guys more so.
+HatedAlways To be honest, It seems that a lot of guys are effected by these standards they think are being pushed on them, but it never really effected me. It might be a difference between the U.S (I'm presuming your from the U.S) and Where I'm from (Ireland) but it's very clear here that in high school if someone insults you and they can see it effects you, they're going to run with it and do as much damage as possible (kids are ass-holes) and it's terrible, but at the end of the day I see it as a positive because someone can say whatever they want to me now and I honestly don't care, dealing with crap like that as a kid is just part of growing up. I just see these guys as never having gotten over basic insults that mean nothing, and it annoys me that anyone would waste their time dwelling on something like being called a pussy, when the real world is always going to be full of assholes and always will be. Don't try and live by other people's standards and you'll be fine. I'm sorry if all that was all a bit preachy and if I'm droning on but I'm just speaking my mind now. P.s: I'm not a macho guy myself, I have severe haemophilia (look it up if you want), which basically means that being macho is pretty much off limits. lol
"you got hit by a girl?" That's a very rude thing to say to someone and would offend them if they were a man or woman
1st off she should know better than to hit. Equal rights happened for all. That means, you hit me I restrain you aggressively 😡
Strang 1 Hi! So if someone was saying like their girlfriend just hit them, and somebody said “you got hit by a girl?!” Would somebody say well she should’ve known better than to hit! That is correct she should’ve known better, well the point of this comment is that it would be rude to a woman because it makes us feel weak and like we are not strong at all, and it makes the man feel weak( since they’re is some stereotype that women are just super weak) so he would feel weak for being hit by another person/or the other gender. What you said isn’t really the point of this comment, this comment is just addressing that you know it’d be rude to both genders. You know? Have a nice day!
I’m a women and I know that hurts. It’s not fair and it’s like they are forcing you to grow up faster then you should
Yes.
It is all about protecting female perpetrators of domestic abuse and forcing male victims into submission. We live in a misandrist society where women are privileged. The society wants women to go unpunished for crimes against men and force men to accept abuse by women.
Once I was racing a boy, don't know why, we were just racing. He lost the race. All of a sudden, a boy came from literally out of nowhere and said to my friend "Hey, that's a girl you know. You should've won." Now you may think that this was only upsetting for my friend, but actually, it really upset me too. And yes, I understand it upset him as well, but it really hurt my feelings.
It’s because girls aren’t scientifically stronger
@@aidanwholey1906 ya but that doesn't mean it's not rude
NG not all boys and all girls are made the same way. before and during puberty, women grow and mature way faster than men, but later they catch up. At my middle school, my girls track team won every single yeah btw lol 😆
women develop more flexibility and that translates to women on average being faster than men
@@papajones432 But...that's not true though. Just because you're flexible doesn't mean you're automatically faster than your next door neighbor. On average, the body of a man is literally faster and stronger than a women's. I have no idea what you're talking about..
saying “you got hit by a girl” is lowkey offensive to both genders
both as in there are only 2
This channel is bad
@@jojoyayathereal fr. The woman version of this states that "men don't hear those comments at all", while this one is labeled as "hurts everyone", like the fact that it hurts the man principally is not important.
It’s offensive to the girl
@@abodieqwerty4678 But it does hurt everyone. All of these comments are ultimately degrading to women and girls because they treat being like a girl as an insult or a bad thing to avoid, or because they treat women like property and/or reduce them to sexist insults, or because they act like the man should be the one with the power in the relationship.
Sad to see how both genders have it bad. Why can’t we just have peace in the world. Like I don’t get why us humans have to hate so much and say harsh words to each other.. it sucks
Ikr whats next sizesism agesism
Sarah Houfani jeez I hate when people say a colour has a gender. Like a guy I know LOVES pink. And I see nothing wrong with it. No colour is a “girl” colour or “boy”. Honestly makeup, and nails and clothes don’t have a gender either. People should just let others live how they want
if it wasnt seen as bad to be a woman because we may be more emotional etc then we probably wouldn't have these problems. but sexism to girls affects boys too. it would be much better if we normalized emotions because emotion is strength and if you can show your emotions you ARE powerful.
delete feminism and sexism boom issue solved
@@jangofett1016
I don’t like arguing....but feminism is about equality not “women are better then men” take this from a feminist
48 things men hear in a lifetime that women almost never do.
1) "Well, sure, you're the only one covered in bruises, but if you don't leave the house willingly, we're going to have to arrest you."
2) "Yes, we're aware there was no evidence of abuse that we could find, but if you want to see your kid you'll have to come up with the fee for the court-ordered supervision."
3) "You're responsible for your estranged spouse's legal fees, as well as your own."
4) "You can't sell your house without your wife's permission. Yes, we know the title is solely in your name, but it's the law (in Michigan, possibly elsewhere)."
5) "You're married? Oh, I'm sorry, but you can't undergo surgical sterilization without a signed release form from your spouse."
6) "Well, yes, we understand the pregnancy was accidental, but we're going to force you to become a parent."
7) "If you can't support your daughter, the least you could do is what it takes to get her death benefits." (this incitement to suicide was said by a judge when a father requested to reduce child support due to being laid off)
8) "It's okay, baby. No need to cry so much. It's just a little snip. There's my tough little guy."
9) "You don't want to have sex with me? What are you, gay?"
10) "Well, if you don't know what you did wrong, *I'm* certainly not going to tell you."
11) "Your SO hit you? What did you DO?"
12) "It's your duty."
13) "I heard a noise downstairs! Go see what it is!"
14) "I'd never have sex with someone who hasn't been circumcised!"
15) "Intact genitals are gross!"
16) "You're expelled for engaging in a drunk hook-up."
17) "Sure, you were passed out, but what happened to you wasn't rape."
18) "We're awarding you the kids because you're the better parent. (generally, the mother has to be seriously unfit, not just not as competent)"
19) "What's wrong with you? Why haven't you proposed yet?"
20) "What are you doing for your SO on Valentine's Day?"
21) "You have a collect call from [your child]. Do you wish to accept the charges? (on Father's day, the day of the year when the highest volume of collect calls are made)"
22) "Are you just going to let him talk to me that way?!"
23) "You just don't listen to me!"
24) "You're emotionally unavailable!"
25) "Your ego is so fragile."
26) "You always get so whiny when you're sick."
27) "You're taking me for granted."
28) "You just have to try harder to make your partner happy. Your partner is worth it."
29) "Withholding sex or affection from your SO is a form of emotional abuse."
30) "Your partner has a "relationship problem". What you did was abuse. (Dr. Phil, referring to a man who pushed his wife onto the bed so he could leave a situation where she was physically assaulting him)"
31) "Just stand up for yourself!"
32) "You are NOT going to my friend's wedding dressed like that!"
33) "You should rent your wedding outfit."
34) "It's been ages since you took me anywhere!"
35) "You never do anything to make me happy!"
36) "Oral? Ew, you're joking."
37) "Get lost, creep."
38) "As if, loser."
39) "Your tears are delicious!"
40) "What do you mean, you want to be a stay at home parent?"
41) "You don't appreciate me."
42) "You're dating someone younger? Pedo!"
43) "If you're walking behind someone at night, you should cross the street so as not to frighten them."
44) "The only reason you're contesting custody is to control and abuse your ex-partner."
45) "I don't care how you feel!"
46) "Sorry, I don't date anyone shorter than me."
47) "Running away? What a loser!"
48) "Welcome to your mandatory sexual consent workshop."
+karen straughan
5) "You're married? Oh, I'm sorry, but you can't undergo surgical sterilization without a signed release form from your spouse."
Holy shit, what? This can't be as insane as it sounds, right? Please tell me where this is a law.
7) "If you can't support your daughter, the least you could do is what
it takes to get her death benefits." (this incitement to suicide was
said by a judge when a father requested to reduce child support due to
being laid off)
WHAT THE FUCK?? Source???
(Also, please do a Rantzerker on this one too!)
+ApocalypticSalad 5) I'm actually pretty certain this is technically against the law, but it doesn't stop lots of doctors from requiring a permission slip from wifey.
7) It was an anecdote from a guy who was sitting on a Friday afternoon watching all the child support cases run past a judge.
+ApocalypticSalad
5) I think it was France?? where the wife`s premission was needed.
+karen straughan What about when girlfriends start all their conversations with: "Are you even listening to me?!"
+karen straughan #7 is stunning on multiple levels. How could a judge not know that life insurance doesn't pay out if the cause of death is suicide?
I like men who show their emotions
@Bengaltiger1 yeah
It’s sad how this boils down to Men are human to 😢
I like women without makeup.
Same
@@heracrossz7701 true
Look at the video title. Look what you put in the parentheses. Notice it is *not equal* to what you put in the title of the women's 48 things. All you had to do was write the same words with men and women swapped,, but you couldn't even do that. Both of the videos used parentheses to bolt the same essential message onto the title, and it's a resounding "Men aren't hurt as much as women."
What if I think men are hurt more?
.....
Let me guess..... I'm not a real man.
+DoctorRandomercam No... You seem to just be biased.
www.upworthy.com/48-surprisingly-damaging-things-that-men-hear-all-the-time?c=ufb1
Give this a read.
Naw, not "not a real man". Just... biased. :/ And if men are getting their own sexist debilitating comments that value some things and quash down others (physical strength over mental stability for example) we raise a generation of debilitated little boys grown into men by sheer virtue of their age. :/
***** Why do you people obsess over a few words that make little actual difference? Did you even /watch/ the video? Because that's where the REAL message lies.
***** You're going too far. You keep looking for something that isn't even there.
What is the video trying to tell you? It's saying men have heard these DISSES in their lifetimes.
What is the title telling you? It's telling you TO NOT DISS MEN for showing a feminine side.
Is it that hard to see that? Why do you keep going around looking for things to crap on?
***** I'm sorry, can you reply to the rest of the comment or are you just going to be narrow minded?
the fact that the first person was so young and he said “boys don’t play with dolls” that’s just sad
You actually think he wasnt told to say that?
48 Things Men Hear In A Lifetime (That Are Bad For Everyone)
48 Things Women Hear In A Lifetime (That Men Just Don't)
Nice equality going on there with your titles. I suppose you framed it this way because you want "what women hear" to be considered special and "what men hear" to just be wrong. Had you posted them with the same title, this video would have undermined the other... which it still does. As a man these mean nothing to me, in fact things said to me growing up help me grow as a person and helped overcome REAL obstacles and problems. It makes you stronger! Seems like you think women are too fragile, should be sheltered and men should feel the same way.
Tell you what...here's an idea for a third video, splice them both together and call it "72 things PEOPLE hear in a lifetime" and realize how asinine the whole thing is.
If you're easily offended by anything of these, you fail as a human. Man/Woman up and move on!
Because women have it worse, bud, like it or not. Also nice to see that toxic masculinity made you "stronger". We love a competent and healthy individual!
Because notice how all the insults men hear are related to being girly/womanly
48 Things Men Hear in A Lifetime (That Are Bad For Everyone)
48 Things Women Hear in A Lifetime (That Men Just Don't)
Do better next time Huffington. You couldn't even make the titles equal. And the subject of the male video is way too tied to women and not nearly focused enough on male exclusive issues. I would of loved to see things like, "all men are rapists" "under no circumstances do you hit a woman" "a guy must ask the girl out" "a guy always pays" and many other damaging things we hear. But I have a feeling it wouldn't go with your agenda/narrative. Even though this video was supposed to be directed towards men, you found a way of directing it towards women.
Vesuvius so was the woman one
Bruh
Yes but they litteraly are bad for everyone
Example:
"You got hit by a girl?"
Yes, it's upsetting for the man in this scenario. Being told that your weak is never a nice feeling. But it's also upsetting for the woman. Being told that because your a girl men will always be stronger then you really pushes you down.
@@emilyhanks5308 yes true
Well, the women once where nearly entirely sexist towards women, while the man once are sexist towards both, because they say to have “feminine qualities” (See the sexism here?) is bad.
Notice how half of these things were compared to girls or have to do with them...being feminine is not bad
If you are a young male or a man, it is BAD. How can a male be a man if he is feminine?
MAN= MASCULINITY
WOMEN= FEMININITY
The two are OPPOSITE but compliment each other.
They NATURALLY attract eachother.
@@strang1124 thats what we call toxic masculinity my guy, only expecting men to be masculine and strong is a big reason for why a lot of guys are jerks. Whenever a guy tries to understand girls problems or does anything feminine he gets called a simp. Men should be allowed to be feminine without being called names, this is all a social construct, its okay :). Society just made you think thats how it should be but thats not true. I know youre going to disagree, so respond to me once you put on a skirt and understand that gender roles are made up by men who just want power
Look, a jerk is a jerk because he is selfish & has other problems or maybe he is doing the right thing but you don't like it. When a man calls a women out on her BS. He is a jerk because you don't like it.
A man will hold the righteous ground. A simp or or less than a man will cower to FEELINGS instead of what is right. That is called LEADERSHIP.
Remember; LEADER, PROTECTOR & PROVIDER?
Look, the sexes are born different because our rolls in life are different. Therefore what is expected from each sex is different. That is BASIC human.
@@strang1124 you completely ignored everything I said. Men get called a simp for simply BEING NICE to a woman, so meaning that men should be dicks to women or they'll get made fun of, TOXIC MASCULINITY.
Yes we are born different, but we don't get to choose that now, do we? Men and women are seperated into groups, for what's socially acceptable and what not. Men need to be masculine and strong while women should be and pretty and gentle. What I'm trying to say is that It's a social construct that men should be masculine, it does not have to do with biology or genetics, you're taught from a young age that you should stick to what gender roles your sex has. It does not make a man any LESS of a man to out some makeup and a skirt on. They still have their genitals, don't they?(I'm not saying that everyone with a penis is a man, just saying it doesnt make them a woman when they simply just put on a skirt) We're not given "rolls" at birth, we're humans not fucking wolves.
Yeah i also noticed the agenda.
Honestly even as a girl the whole “Boys can’t hit girls” and the “you got punched by a girl?” triggers me so much does that mean I can beat a boy to a pulp but he can’t defend himself? I’d rather have him punch me back then all his friends scream “YOU CANT HIT HER SHES A GIRL” or all start laughing at the poor boy saying “YOU GOT PUNCHED BY A GIRL?! WEAK”
We (the people in general) do need more people like you in this world.
I think boys should definitely be able to defend themselves, but I would encourage them to use the least amount of aggression/force necessary (for men and women, but especially if the person is smaller/weaker). Violence against women is sadly a huge issue still, so emphasizing that boys/men shouldn't hit women or girls is an important societal message, but I agree, in self defence you must protect yourself even if it is a man protecting himself from a woman.
@@melshortir I agree with half of what you said. if violence against women is a huge issue then violence against men is gargantuan. you cannot sit here and imply that women face more violence than men, because it's simply not true.
Sooooo many people brush off physical abuse from woman as just being normal behavior and it’s sad
@@Alex-ug9wx Yes that's true, but I'd suggest most (obviously not all) the violence men experience is suffered by other men inflicting it. So maybe just encouraging men (or everyone I guess) to be less violent generally is the way to go?
Time to add SIMP to the list.
I love how this one is “That are bad for everyone” and the other one is “That men just don’t” we know you’re sexist, you can’t hide it
so blatant..
Notice half the insults towards men were actually implying they were feminine. Equating femininity with "bad" and "weak" is part of the issue, and promotes sexism implying anything feminine (and therefore women in general) are subpar. So in this case, they are bad for everyone and put down women as well. (the comment is copied)
@@mariamxx7296 didnt notice that, thats interesting
@@mariamxx7296 They cherry picked the insults
It's to show that the bad things men hear are just as damaging to girls as they are to guys, whether you like it or not, you'll never be able to play the "both sides" card, because our society is very patriarchal and misogynistic, and women are oppressed more than men, and have been for centuries. Most things that men are told that hurt them aren't just bad for them, they're bad because they compare men to women or imply that men should be above/degrade women in some way. Because the worst thing this society thinks that you can be is a woman. Even though that's not true.
"You got hit by a girl?" This is the attitude feminists take on domestic violence.
+Jeff D Don't generalize please.
First of all, is the Duluth Model used everywhere? Second of all do all feminists back it? Third of all, are all feminists the same, or do they have exactly the same views? Inform yourself.
spinosauruskin #NotAllFeminists
#NotAllMen ? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
+Frank vb How about I propose a better question? Would it exist without feminists creating and supporting it? The answer is no. So can we blame feminists for it's existence? YES!
Would feminists exist (even just under that name) if there wasnt a problem in society regarding the relation between men and women? This line of thinking doesnt favour your argument.
funny how this says (that is bad for everyone) the female one doesnt.
Right
its because most of these are saying something negative about women too. do you not understand how sexism works?
@@locath1939 lmao men get a lot more shit when it comea to hearing things . Maybe not when it comes toa actions . The shit in the other vid with women apply to a ton of men too , like the being hit thing , a lot of content , including shows , portray toxic relationships where women beat up a guy and it's love or something and it slowly develops in to a crush . I am not joking even cartoons for children have that .. so it's just sexist bullshit
Thanks for this, guys. As a woman with a lovely little brother, I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing this shit said about my brother, and TO my brother. It's not fair that we label sexism as something ONLY women go through. It's not. Just because we report sexism towards women more, and just because we view it as more wrong, does not make sexism the other way alright. So-called "feminists" who believe you cannot be sexist towards a man are in and of themselves sexists, and are NOT feminists and should NEVER call themselves that. They don't stand for this woman, and they don't stand for the majority of people, either.
This is another reason why gender inequality harms everyone - by reinforcing those stereotypes, we reinforce that women are weak and men are strong. Or if you prefer, we see women as emotional and men as cold automatons. Men are expected to "tough it out", women are expected to share feelings. I will NEVER get the same amount of flack for wearing a suit that my little brother would get from wearing a dress, and I will NEVER be expected to cut my daughter's genitals the way I am expected to cut my son's. I will NEVER be told my daughter is "confused" for playing with boy's toys the way boys are told about playing with girl's toys. My daughter will be believed if she's raped or domestically abused by a man, but my son will not be believed if a woman rapes/abuses him. I don't have to worry that the court will give custody of my kids to my abusive husband the same way my brother would worry that the court would give his children to his abusive wife. I will never be considered a "deadbeat mom" the same way my little brother would be a "deadbeat dad" if we both divorced our respected SOs and ended up going our separate ways. It's just pervasive. It's pervasive and I hate it, and it seems almost WORSE than the sexism I face as a woman because it's not called attention to the same way sexism towards women is.
“That are bad for everyone” vs “that men just don’t” what kind of bs is that
They probably did this video after seeing the amount of hate they got on the last one. İf they were to be left free they wouldnt even do this. So, i think we should be thankfull for this lol.
While I do appreciate that Huff-Po did end up making this video (hopefully in the interest of fairness/equality and not because the last one got disliked so much), I feel I must point out the following concerns.
The last video was 48 Things Women Hear (THAT MEN JUST DON'T) while this one is subtitled (THAT ARE BAD FOR EVERYONE). This is inherently (and probably deliberately) unequal, not to mention some of the things that men DO in fact hear some of the things on the women's list.
A lot of people complained that the women's video had a lot of "compliments." While I don't completely agree with this sentiment, very few of such analogs are present in this video. "Positive" statements CAN ALSO be psychologically distressing for men/boys if they they reaffirm lifestyle choices they're not interested in.
More importantly it's clear that this video ONLY touches on CERTAIN KINDS of bad things men hear, particularly regarding emasculation. While these statements are certainly something to be concerned over, including JUST them opens the door for "Well, when men are treated unfairly, it's because they're "acting like women. So really, this is just another form of Misogyny!" I feel this is an oversimplification, and am suspicious that Huff-Po INTENTIONALLY did this.
Accordingly, here are a few things that did NOT make their list (that perhaps should have):
- Foreskins are gross
- Women prefer a guy who's circumcised
- Never hit a woman, even if she hits you first
- You should make sure to get a Pre-nup.
- You like kids? Are you some kind of pedo?
- It's your duty to die for your country if it comes to that
- It might be your baby but it's HER body
- You want to be an (artist/schoolteacher/etc.)? How will you provide for your family?
- Men can't be raped
- Only men can rape
or maybe they realized their mistake in titling the last one and chose to make this one more inclusive as to avoid the same hate the last one got
@@shhitsironic2663 They could change the title of the original video about women at any time.
I know, because a video on VICE's channel I was featured in that was originally titled, "meet the women of the men's rights movement" was retitled 3 weeks after publication to, "MRAs think rape victims deserve it."
It's totally like they can change the title of any video to suit whatever agenda they want.
Yeah the list here makes more sense tbh
@@girlwriteswhat I think they realized they couldn't change the title because they already made a title card in the video and they couldn't cut that part out
Yes it was intentional because they hate men.
It's funny that none of these things said to men are compliments.
Its also funny its all degrading females while yall getting offended and are using negative comments about women to offend men
What are you even talking about lol
@@saltytoshiro3685 they're complaining about femalws being used to make them look weak and ect meanwhile yall are making degrading jokes about women. And getting offensive about a women being better then you because she's a female. Yall are such babies its ridiculous
@@arilee9097It's not about being compared to women, it's about societal ridicule for something you have no control over. It's the exact same as if someone were to mock you for not being able to cook as good as your husband, but the difference is that ones a skill while the other is biology. It's a biological fact that men are innately stronger than women, so to be weaker than a woman would make you feel like you're less of a man as that is what society teaches us. We're taught to be a man, while women are taught to do whatever they want.
Also, HuffPost purposefully painted this to try and make it seem like the only things that men suffer from are related to emasculation so that it looks like any discrimination towards men is actually misogyny. In reality, there is a lot more. One of the things we go through are semi-endearing compliments, just like women. So HuffPost is purposefully trying to get this exact reaction you gave.
@@saltytoshiro3685 thats not what I'm talking about. I'm saying yall really belittle females because we are females. As if we are inferior to yall. You guys are using us, only females as an insult to a male because we are considered under your gender. Do not justify the lack of respect for females in these words of offense for yall
"boys don't cry" is one if the most harmful phrases you can tell a kid tbh, don't bottle up your feelings it won't help
Valid question though Huffpost, have you ever actually done a day of real work in you lives?
looking at this 5 years later, this is hilarious, because buzzfeed literally was standing up for men and you still aren't happy with it
Something these guys all heard that the rest of us just don't:
"Look at the camera and read this or you're fired."
The way most of these were also about women. “You do this like a girl” “pink is a girls color”
This world is so sexist... Not every man is a creep.. Not every woman is a whore.. We need to get along :(
Amen!
i am so sorry if you heard these before. i personally don't care about your height, if you're "too emotional" or if you also like girly stuff like makeup and painting your nails. it's beautiful to have feelings and expressing yourself to the world!! and i support you!! all women and men should be equal!
You're a real feminist
I hate the "Boys don't cry" bs. but whatever lol
***** lol everyone is different
+Titus Tucker What I heard all my life is that boys didn't cry because we were taught not to. Then it turns out men does not cry as much as women because our tear ducts are of a larger diameter and takes longer to fill up. But the feminists STILL push the myth that men don't cry because they are being taught not to. What the fuck?
+Seybertooth Actually in older generation both men and women didn't used to cry all that much. It wasn't a productive use of time and as such both sexes were much much more stoic. Most men these days are quicker to cry that women of 100 years ago. The fact is that the image of women being fainting violets is a very modern thing and even today is still not really true.
For males it has always been important to be able to control your emotions, to keep your family your children safe. I was always taught that It was ok to cry in a safe place but never to loose control of my emotions in public, that to do so would be selfish. Because allowing myself to loose control would put the lives of those I care about in danger. After enough time it just becomes habit and you just don't cry anymore.
So it's not that "boys don't cry" it's that boys or girls shouldn't have such a lack of control of their emotions as to be unable to control them. Also I should note that being able to control your emotions is a crisis is something that you don't just learn on the spot it takes years of practice.
+Titus Tucker
To be fair its not really that men/boys dont cry ever. Its more dont cry over nothing.
Noone will say that a father crying over a dead child or a man over a dying friend/relative is unmanly.
But you may be given some grief if you are crying over something that doesnt matter or doing it for attention (or perceived attention at least).
Women's video: that men just don't
Mans video: offensive to everyone
Huh... weird
That last one, irritates me the most.
Just because I'm not rebuilding engine blocks while chugging Budweiser does not mean I'm not a man.
I mean really.
I don't always watch MuffPo, but when I do, I downvote immediately.
Expressing emotions is very normal, but one thing is certain, we have the decision to express our emotions wherever we want and with who we want
funny how the like-dislike ratio on the male version is much better, I wonder why...
+supermonkeyyyyyy funny how people like you try to find faults in everything.
Because it acknowledges the sexism that men face, an issue that has been largely overshadowed and downplayed by militant feminists who want to believe only women can be victims. Also, the similar video about what women hear in their lifetime was hardly gender specific, and was hardly sexism.
+supermonkeyyyyyy Its all about viewcount. On any channel the first viewers are mostly fans which gives a better like-dislike ratio for a while. Only when it goes viral, many outsiders are exposed to it, making the ratio reflect popular opinion.
+bongo155 No, because the criticism here is more valid than the last video.
Go read the whole title of the female one and get back to me.
This one is just as heartbreaking as the women’s one. It’s heartbreaking to know that people every day experience things like this. Why can’t we put sexual stereotypes aside and start over? Why can’t we live in a world where it doesn’t matter how we choose to live our lives? It’s terrible the things people face on a day to day basis.
Wow, how about getting straight men's perspective of this topic, eh?
thats the thing im sure someone of them are so "masculine" that they don't have that to say and if you see closely there are some straight male in there and they are being said some of them.
The fact is lots of these questions hurt women more then men
All this video is expressing is that men use negative comments about women being in control which offends men, when its offensive yall think its funny to make fun of women
@@arilee9097 what
No it hurts both of them. Dont assume womens feelings are hurt more about these comments you sexist.
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I am a proud feminist and as one I think that part of the problem is the way we teach and oppress men socially. The start to getting rid of toxic masculinity and oppression for everyone is to educate and hold people responsible while also being there for victims of both sexs. And as a sexual assault survivor I sympathize with male victims. I would just as soon help a man that's being assaulted as a woman.
you seem like a cool feminist
Teach this to your kids if you have any ajd if you become a teacher mostly an English teacher then heck yeah
There's worse things we hear. Once you become strong it means less to you and you can enjoy the fine things in life and have a better understanding of life. Hardships are important
none of those things bother me. there are always going to be expectations placed on people. if you're good with yourself you can laugh this kind of stuff off. remember that people that say such things things dont really care about you.
lol I imagined someone laughing off the fact that they "can't get it up"
+Ad Co who even says that to someone though?
+Baby G
:If a rich old man in his seventies marries a twenty-something, people will ask him that, which is why they had an old man say it.
+Torrey Green rich old men with 20 somethings don't give a fuck. no one says shit to them. this is silliness.
Baby G You don't know that to be true at all, and it isn't, by the way. Regardless, you asked a question, I gave an answer.
When will HP learn to stop doing this shit.
+Tom Thornhill Why would they stop? They have decided their audience is the SJW's and this is the sort of shit they want to hear.
Just to clear things up, as a man I hear this type of thing quite a lot but frankly I do not care. There are bigger things to worry about than a comment like "overcompensating" or "man period". Although this video does show that it does go both ways, what I would suggest is to use this to reflect yourself, we do not care about these comments, quite a few of them are intended to be jokes. We should all just stop whining about these comments and sort out real equality in legal cases and in law rather than 'micro aggressions', etc.
+Markus Brorson That's my point I don't care, you don't care so I think it is ridiculous that we are still debating issues because there are far more important. E.g. The humanitarian crises (not gender problems but people being treated sub humanly regardless of gender) in many countries like Saudi Urabia and Pakistan.
+Wilf Horton Fair points, but it's a tired argument to say you shouldn't give attention to problem A since problems B and C are more important. There's nothing stopping us from giving attention to all of the problems.
+tuila I Have seen so many problems over others, if you really wanted to I could find many links to times when problem A has not been sorted in the name of others. I have never seen feminists campaigning for more than three domestic abuse centres in the UK while there have been dozen of campaigns for more funding to be put into the already plentiful numbers of domestic abuse centres that are exclusively for women.
+tuila and I do agree that all problems that are important should be sorted but it is almost impossible, however much we might want it, to focus on everything. Also a lot has been done about things like this while not focusing on the hundreds of men who will not be allowed to see their children on Christmas Day.
Wilf Horton Your example however, was that somehow focusing on gender inequality weakens our chances of helping people in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, which I think is not true. The institutions and people involved with overseas aid and gender inequality are not the same people and neither are their funders. I know this is a bit of nit-picking, but just saying.
''I don't date short men''
Wait,this one isn't like the others
Height can't be controlled but her weight certainly can. So any woman who says this is a hypocrite
This is only bad for those who can't stand up for and defend themselves
Give an example of a situation where someone can't defend themselves against these kinds of petty remarks.
You're perpetuating exactly what this video is about
I don't remember this video showing society as criticizing homosexuals. Either way it's not important.. Because for every example you give showing someone who allowed it to affect them I can give you too more who more than fought society's expectations of what a man should be. Since you gave a personal example, I'll give you mine. I was called gay and much much worse than that. Especially through high school. I'm still criticized for not fitting into the stereotype. What people said used to get to me a lot till I realized that there's no point in giving a shit. If you can't stand up for yourself or brush off baseless criticism it's not society's fault and it has little to know effect on society at large. I won't tell you to 'be a man' or that garbage. I'll tell you to grow up.
I don't remember this video showing society as criticizing homosexuals. Either way it's not important.. Because for every example you give showing someone who allowed it to affect them I can give you too more who more than fought society's expectations of what a man should be. Since you gave a personal example, I'll give you mine. I was called gay and much much worse than that. Especially through high school. I'm still criticized for not fitting into the stereotype. What people said used to get to me a lot till I realized that there's no point in giving a shit. If you can't stand up for yourself or brush off baseless criticism it's not society's fault and it has little to know effect on society at large. I won't tell you to 'be a man' or that garbage. I'll tell you to grow up.
I'm not perpetuating anything. Just cuz you say I am doesn't make it true.
(I’m a girl) to the ladies saying it’s ok that the titles aren’t equal: the girl one had things that could have been on both genders too. They should have put that same type of title on the girls one if your going to look at it that way. Also, guys have it hard to. ITS NOT A COMPETITION! Everyone has things said to them that are just wrong. And bedsore you’re argue saying that so and so has it harder, it’s not worth it. Everyone had different experiences with different people, and you could never decided which is worse. To the guys: please don’t say that the feminists are the ones doing this. People say they are feminists all the time but if they were they wouldn’t be so hypocritical. Feminists are supposed to realize that we are EQUAL. And to those saying we already have equality, they’re are still cat callers, rapists, and sexists in the world, and no, it will never be perfect but that’s why we are fighting. FOR BOTH SIDES
I am a feminist and I will never not be a feminist. Feminism is about equality for the sexes, no matter what anyone tries to say. However, I agree with you that the video about women should have had the same parenthetical as the men’s video-“that are bad for everyone.” Because men treating women like crap makes women afraid of men and vice versa. The human psyche trains us to see patterns and unfortunately if a woman is targeted by enough men, she will start to be afraid of all men in order to protect herself. It doesn’t mean all men are bad or that she hates all men; she is just using her life experiences so keep herself safe.
Anyway, I went on a bit of a tangent here, but yeah. Men and women will never have true social equality until basic gender roles and expectations are eradicated.
Okay, so the 48 things that women hear (that men just don't) hurt women and the 48 things that men hear also hurt women. This is HuffPo's idea of equally addressing issues affecting men and women. If you are not making women out to be victims at all times under all circumstances, you are not doing feminism right.
It makes me sad knowing that I've been told many of these things.
I think it is interesting, that this clip has the subtitle "That is bad for everyone", while the female clip has the subtitle "That men just don't". Personally, I think that it mirrors the feminism skew perspective: Men are always guilty, and woman never can do wrong.
+Puglous And they shouldn't. Feminism is about womans rights, despite that some of them state different. That's why I'm an egalitarian. :)
Notice half the insults towards men were actually implying they were feminine. Equating femininity with "bad" and "weak" is part of the issue, and promotes sexism implying anything feminine (and therefore women in general) are subpar. So in this case, they are bad for everyone and put down women as well.
The women's version 14k likes
The males version 3.2k likes and 2k dislikes...
Well that should tell you how many care about men.
The women's had 9k dislikes. The ratio is the same.
@Sorek Ben-Ephraim I don’t know lol.
I am a girl and coming to this video so I know what men go through so I can understand them more and so I can stop being so sexist about everything.
EDIT: Just finished the video. That's fucked up.
“(that are bad for everyone)” vs. “(that guys just don’t)” okay girls hear “what are you gay” “he can’t even grow a beard” and many more you listed 😐
Yeah girls hear "are you gay" women can be gay. Like lesbianis
I see that lots of people don't quite understand the meaning of this video. It is about gender stereotypes being harmful. Men in our world are meant to be "strong, not emotional, confident, etc" and if one doesn't satisfy these requirements, he is mocked. But the truth is that it is ok to cry if you're a man, it is ok to be gentle, it is ok for boys to play with dolls etc. The fact that some people have a penis should never define their emotional life (or any other its area). E.g. keeping in feelings and emotions can cause a depression that will lead to a suicide. Gender roles and stereotypes are very harmful things, whether you are a man or a woman.
This is such a good video, seeing all these hateful comments makes me sad.
Heard too many of these too often.
*Inhales Deeply* Ahhhh, I love the smell of false-narrative in the morning...
"I don't date short guys." Lol so, does the purported issue stem from someone having a preference for taller guys, or someone verbalizing their preference for taller guys?
Height can't be controlled but her weight certainly can. Boom I've dropped a bombshell.
So, I've just watched the other video, 48 things women hear that men don't, and there you claim men don't hear "It's that time of the month." Yet, in this video, you claim that men hear "Dude, are you on your period." Make up your goddamn mind.
Personally I think that these videos are true to their titles. Things that were being said in the video about women aren't commonly said to men. Like when was the last time a person was surprised when they found out a guy was into video games? When was the last time men were reminded of a body clock? Or questioned if they were going to work after the baby was born or judged for leaving the baby for someone else to look after? Men just won't hear that and that was the point. And is there a male equivalent term for cougar cause I don't think so apart from Sugar Daddy and that's actually a business. You can't deny that older men- younger woman couples are more common and accepted than vice versa- men dump older wives for younger women because of their beauty all the time. That beauty for profit exchange is alive and well which goes into the point of physical appearance being a lot more emphasised for women than it is for men. I think there were some stupid ones that I doubt anyone says, probably just one person in that woman's life, like the thing about the eyebrows and the eat, pray love thing- like how are they important really? or sexist? And this one chose to look at harmful insults made by other men to men that hurt women too by putting down feminine qualities. It's not representative of all men, I do admitt. This is only one fraction of what men hear and the issues they face I do admitt. It's obviously more about harmful things said to more effeminate men to shame them and be homophobic which is a serious issue in my opinion but this doesn't target all men and I think another video should be made about more varied experiences and issues that impact men specifically.
Seriously? You people profess to tell *men* what *men's problems* are, got them completely wrong or shallow, and think that having a bunch of manginas doing the speaking is going to make me relax my standard when it comes to dealing with BS? No, sorry, but hell no. I'd have just laughed this video off if this was the first time I run into the stuff this video represents. And yes, I am officially starting to make use of the term "mangina" today. I've had enough with arrogant sanctimonious male Feminists.
***** Sigh...... I hope so, too- I mean, if those men and boys need that money, they need that money.
i feel so bad for men i wish i could do more to help but everyone arounds me want to focus on feminism...
feminism is quite literally about the equality between sexes look it ip
Translation of the title:"48 things men hear in a lifetime, that are bad because they hurt women too, otherwise we wouldn't care."
Always hear and get this question majority from women: "When are you getting married?"
There's nothing wrong with this question.
Never
Why are half of these rude to men and women
That's odd, you've seemed to forgot to add "Yes All Men" on this list. I mean that actually is bad for everyone.
Beautiful to see how female attributes are being used as insults.
Um, i've heard plenty of feminists say "man up".
Doesn't mean it's okay. It just means those feminist aren't feminist.
And people say boys don’t have feelings
Don't you love it how they (Huffpo) dig an even deeper hole for themselves when they release this tripe?
I just watched the one about what Women hear and I saw this and thought "I should hear both sides, because it must be awful" and holy hell was I ever right.
notice how many of them are referencing women as well
Yeah i also noticed the agenda.
I find it really hypocritical how to woman one for hufflost is titled: Things that women hear (And men just don't) and the man one is titled things men hear (That hurts everyone)
Cuz women have it wayyyy harder
I hate that I even heard so many of these myself. "You got beaten by a girl?" and "You're going to accept her doing that?" It so wrong for boys to hear this things. The problem is why they say these things are because in their world the woman are below man. (May not be the exakt way you are thinking in that moment. But that is where the expressions come from.)
So if you get beaten by a girl or let a girl boss you around you aren't a man anymore? Because suddenly you are on the same level as the woman and therefor you will be bullied.
So please people saying that feminism isn't needed, both men and women are being affected be the patriarchy. Men and women should have the right to be whoever they wanna be, without someone talking bad about them - seeing them less as fulfilled human.
I know there is many people who hates the word feminism and the whole message in my comment. I will not reply. Just wanted to rant about all our right to be ourselves. Thanks!
I see a lot of people complaining how the subtitle isn't the same as the other one. Personally I feel this one is more appropriate, because, as you'll notice, some of them were the same. Sexism hurts everyone, this subtitle is much more fitting.
This video inspired me to write a poem.
Huffpo
In the trash you go!
Thank you.
One time my dad literally said to me "You're a man, real men don't use umbrellas"
thats just being extra lol
next up he be saying "your a man, we dont use blankets on our bed"
And because they have a following, they will get more views than my video - but the only reason they made this one is because of the shear demand they received.
+spinosauruskin thank you
+Harry John saw your video, shared your video, called huff on their "original" bullshit. Great job on the video as well!
+Harry John your video was better and they're only doing it cause they got so many negative votes on the other one. too bad they can't make up for it with this crap.
Pat Smith Exactly
+Harry John I posted this already, but do you notice how they've differentiated the titles?
48 Things Women Hear In A Lifetime (That Men Just Don't) = special and sexist towards women.
48 Things Men Hear In A Lifetime (That Are Bad For Everyone) = wrong and sexist towards women
Nice equality going on there.
The guy who said "what are you, gay?" sounded very personal, like he has been told that multiple times and feels hurt by the words, whether he's gay or not.
"How tall are you?", as like the second paragraph in a chat in a dating app.
1 thing that men never hear
”No”
Naturally, the comments section is rife with misogyny, misandry, and people going at each other's throats instead of realizing that the point of this video is basically saying that men, like women, are restricted based on toxic gender roles and expectations. A lot of the gender roles and limitations placed on men are based on the notion that masculinity is better than femininity, hence why feminine traits have long been used as insults against men who do not fit the hypermasculine profile of what a man should be. For those of you who are bitching that this video derailed from men's issues and instead focused on how these affect women: do you not realize that it affects BOTH men and women?? Men who do not fit society's overly manly image are ridiculed and ostracized. This is the same reason that male domestic violence victims and sexual assault victims have struggled with reporting and discussing their experiences.
I don't think the feminist movement is blameless. I consider myself a feminist, but I think that a lot of people, not just men, have been excluded from the discussion (read: White Feminism). The issues that hurt men do need to be addressed. Many of them have their roots in patriarchal values (read: custody laws). At the same time, people try hard to deny the realities of sexism that hurt men and women alike. "MRAs" on here (read: misogynists, not actual people who advocate for men's issues) like to blame women for all societal ills, as evident by some of the overtly hateful comments directed at women on here. These same people like to claim that sexism towards women doesn't exist, despite their open display for it or their reverence for time periods where women were indeed socially restricted. Likewise, there are feminists who have actively excluded men from the discussion of gender injustice, which is not right. Feminism and the MRA are both just movements with several adherents and political positions. Unfortunately, many have used these movements and ideals to promote hatred instead of realizing that they can fight the same fight, which gives justice to both men and women. This certainly does not need to be a men vs. women battle, but rather, a men and women work together to end restrictive and oppressive gender roles that hurt them equally. It doesn't need to be a fight to make either gender superior or in charge. If you advocate for patriarchy or matriarchy, then you don't belong in the equality discussion either way.
+NanuBaby90 Really? The comment section has mostly people who feel outright insulted by the fact that it's petty examples that aren't actual problems men have but even if they were they are posted as problems shared by everyone even though it's supposed to be around men.
It's good that you took something nice from this but you are a feminist. You have been taught to agree with these concepts but quite a lot of people think that feminist who speak of these things and enforce these stereotypes and demonize genders for their faults *is the main reason why the genders have negative stereotypes that actually hurt them.*
I hope I can nail this in less words than it took for you to make your post because full detail would actually be twice as many lines and words and that includes spaces (which you should try to put in your text after 3 sentences FYI or at the end of every complete thought).
Ultimately this video is counter intuitive because IT IS the thing that holds both genders back.
If you want an example of actual problems that men face and hear you should see Karen Straughen's comment or I dunno. NOT listen to a video made by an feminist run agenda company and say go to source of Men's issues.
www.avoiceformen.com/
I find the admonition "Man up" less of a cause for concern than the exhortation "MAN DOWN!"
Things that women hear in a lifetime: that men just don’t
Things the men hear in a lifetime: that’s bad for everyone
That's the only problem I see with these videos, lmao. The titles were unnecessary.
You had genuine lists on the previous variant of this and you deliberately skewed/ignored it for a biased narrative, you should be ashamed
She has you whipped is a real thing men need to hear that 😂
How come the title of this isn't 48 Things Men Hear In A Lifetime (That Women just don't) like the last one was only reversed? A genuine question as to why you decided to title these in this way. I think both would have been more true by keeping (That Are Bad For Everyone).
It sickens me how many dislikes this has.
+Queen Jai *"It sickens me how many likes this has."
Fixed it for you. That'll be 5.00 dollars USD.
Queen Jai; exactly.. there are not enough dislikes for this video! Rock on, Sister!
All the dislike are ''feminist'' who think that mens live beautiful lifes and there is only them who are insulted.
Feminist fight for mens rights too so youre wrong sorry
@@jeffisjeff5511 They prob meant feminazis. There are more feminazis than real Feminists these days. But people mix up the two a lot because of the female supremacists.
why didn’t they say (that women just don’t) in the title?
Because. Yall are literally making fun of males by degrading females. And getting offensive because its a female they are using to hurt your feelings. That shitty. And 100% toxic masculinity
@@arilee9097 What? that sentence made no sense. Could you re explain?
Surprisingly I think that it is good that men hear about 42 things out of this list.
Fr, some things are not problematic
One of the main reasons why so many comments on the 48 Things Woman Hear were about guys asking why there wasn't a list for them was because a lot of things said were mostly just petty insults/compliments from other woman, obviously a man would not hear or say a lot of those things so the point was to bring these issues up to....men only?????
So now that you've made a video pointing out things that are said to men in a lifetime they are...bad for everyone and not JUST men because we are going to bring up expected stereotypes that were spouted about...5-10 years ago? Really?
The main reason why there were so many complaints is because no major news outlet or what have you is actually willing to talk about real issues that men face such as MGM, male rape, domestic abuse against men, losing child custody cases even when the mother may have been documented as a child abuser, all men are potential rapists, male schoolteachers are 95% thought of as paedophiles (even though woman rape more students than men do) watching ANYTHING not live action makes you an automatic creep/paedo in training etc. and when they finally do: it's either followed by a sarcastic comment or something to the effect of "Yeah, this is something that needs to be fixed; but lemme tell you why this affects woman as well" and if anything else, no one is willing to talk about these issues unless they preface it with heavy, HEAVY "Are they really..." or "Maybe they are..." like preambles; as if even thinking of discussing such things is so horrible when woman are almost on an hourly basis talked about like they are being beaten and spat on for how they are born or constantly chastised for a hobby when all of that shit actually happens to guys only.
Of course you can just brush off what I said by claiming "To be really fair: a lot of the things said in the other video were more emotional based than physical" so it's okay to acknowledge an issue as long as it doesn't actually cause real, visible harm to a man as a woman? The fact that the other video listed nothing but things SAID not ACTED on them shows just how comfy they really have things, so it's fine to make it look like men have it the same way, but in order to do that it has to affect everyone, not just the singular gender.
I give this video a 8/1000 I give the few digits for at least trying, but if you break the narrative you lose your audience, I understand.
moral of the story, everyone gets hurt by the patriarchy
A lot of these are about gay people (which make up a small percent of humanity) so aren't even accurate to most of male population.
And the other ones are easily to overcome by... growing a pair!
These are '48 Things Wussies Hear In A Lifetime (That Are Bad For Them)'
Seriously. I'm a male and I'm pretty sensitive compared to the average man but the real world doesn't revolve around the feelings of someone. The only one which is a problem is the one about 'all men cheat' because it's a generalisation which declares you being uncapable of doing anything about it. All the others are just stupid people saying something stupid stuff about you! Get over it, seriously. Men have bigger problems to deal with in this world.
Are you dumb friend? Most of these cut deep but there are ones they missed that cant be hear because they said “everyone”
"Nice guys finish last" not for me anyways
It's okay if you behave sensitive and your wife makes more money, but you're still going to pay alimony and be responsible for her abusive behavior. Because men ought to do the heavy lifting and pay the rewards to women.
So the point of this video is that men need feminism so they can be more like women ?
No thanks.
+DAG0R0 Not quite, it's so they can be more like *women want them to be*.
You clearly don't know what feminism is. Its not just about women, even tho its called feminism. You should read more about it instead of jugding likte that before you even know what its really about.
+kaja hansen
Take your own advice
Men need feminism so that they can be more HUMAN.
More like "guys need male positivity so they can be more like themselves" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
keep in mind these stereotypes are bad for *EVERYONE* as the video says.
even the insults that men takes are related to women and comparing them to women is considered as an insult..like what !?
Well thats how they learn. Like father like son like grandfather like father like son. It goes on and on.
Ok but women get told these too
Most awkward group of men ever assembled
A lot of things said I personally find hurtful too as a woman like dude are you on your period? People are complaining that’s it’s not titled like the women one is but it’s cause women hear this stuff too
I don't understand why this video has so many dislikes?
+HatedAlway you really don't?
DaFunk
I would actually appreciate if pointed out what was wrong with it.
+HatedAlways Well, the kid 16 seconds in says "Wow, your so strong".
Seriously, the child is supposed to see a compliment as some kind of attack?, how terrible for men to have to deal with compliments...
The guy at 1:06 says. "have you ever done a real day of work in your life", I mean, if you assume the person who said this to him didn't know him, they're judging his weight. This is a separate issue (I'm not of the mind that encouraging people to be fat is okay, it's not).
How is this comment a thing that MEN have to deal with?, this is someone calling him out because he's fat not because of his genitals.
On the other hand if this guy is a complete free loader, are we supposed to encourage him to be a fat mess sitting at home not contributing to society? Where's the problem in calling a lazy prick out whether they are woman or man?
The point is all of these 'insults' are completely vapid, why teach men women or children to be victims all the time? How is teaching people to be hurt by completely empty insults making our society better.
This is why the video is complete garbage.
Does that clear things up?
DaFunk
I appreciate the effort (no one else has actually shown this much), thank you.
However, what I got from this video is that we're (guys) constantly expected to be some macho, unemotional, do everything person because we're men. I obviously don't agree with every quote in this video (what was with that cocktail line?).
How often are we SUPPOSED to make more than our wives? Oh, I don't throw a baseball 90 mph? Am I suddenly emasculated? I don't look macho, so I'm supposed to be bullied?
It seems that I got a different message from this video than everyone else. I personally identify with a decent amount, and I'm sure other guys more so.
+HatedAlways
To be honest, It seems that a lot of guys are effected by these standards they think are being pushed on them, but it never really effected me.
It might be a difference between the U.S (I'm presuming your from the U.S) and Where I'm from (Ireland) but it's very clear here that in high school if someone insults you and they can see it effects you, they're going to run with it and do as much damage as possible (kids are ass-holes) and it's terrible, but at the end of the day I see it as a positive because someone can say whatever they want to me now and I honestly don't care, dealing with crap like that as a kid is just part of growing up.
I just see these guys as never having gotten over basic insults that mean nothing, and it annoys me that anyone would waste their time dwelling on something like being called a pussy, when the real world is always going to be full of assholes and always will be.
Don't try and live by other people's standards and you'll be fine.
I'm sorry if all that was all a bit preachy and if I'm droning on but I'm just speaking my mind now.
P.s: I'm not a macho guy myself, I have severe haemophilia (look it up if you want), which basically means that being macho is pretty much off limits. lol
Half of these are so sexist towards women too
Yep i also noticed the agenda.
Here's another one: "You're privileged."