Chrysler, Dodge, Ram, and Jeep 3.2 and 3.6 engine oil cooler and oil filter housing
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This man is the best dodge Mechanic i have ever seen and unlike some other youtubers he actually gets back to you every time I've ever asked him for anything
Many thanks for the kind words. I try to answer as many comments and question that I can....its getting harder and harder as the channel grows. Appreciate the support!
Good morning, I have a 2014 dodge avenger 3.6. The engine started vibrating and the engine light came on. We put a tester under the dash and it read code po520 would that cause the engine to vibrate?
Thank you for your videos they are very helpful.
How far can I run a vehicle with no oil filter bypass.. Found mine broken. Was able to take out some from the shaft. Nearest shop is 30 miles.
@@MotorCityMechanic how do you get the main wiring harness to release on the 3.6 liter dodge ram on the passanger side of engine.
A regular engineer: "Lets place the oil cooler in an easy to reach spot in front of the radiator and isolate it from coolant so they won't mix, making it out of metal will make it last too."
Retarded Chrysler engineer: "Dur, duh, let's place the coolant and oil right next to each other in a plastic container in the middle of the engine! I'm smart!"
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Doorman makes a replacement oil bypass valve part# 917-992
I have actually done a few videos about that. That bypass valve is my one claim to fame.....after going around and talking to companies, Dorman was the one that agreed that it was needed and we worked together on making it happen. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe.
@@MotorCityMechanic that is cool! However, I found the Dorman part to be just as failure prone. After two failures I opted to install the 2014-present assembly. I have a question related to the Slight extra height of the later cooler. Does the extra height indicate an increased cooling capacity or is it simply due to different supplier?
I'm wondering why hasn't a recall been done on this part. As of this post the replacement part my mechanic used was version 10.
MotorCity Mechanic really knows his stuff. He is very knowledgeable and well experienced just by the way that he presents himself. I myself am a veteran mechanic, my hat off to you MotorCity Mechanic... keep sharing the knowledge!
Randy BEAR Morton Many thanks for the kind words. I means a lot coming from a fellow tech. Thanks again!
That oil unit is a POS.
Certainly not my favorite design. Just finished replacing another leaking assembly. Thanks for watching Kane and make sure to subscribe
So why aren’t you covering coolant leak on this,my problem originates from this housing where coolant is leaking as fast as I,m pouring it in
I,m using water of course for diagnostics and all I could tell is a slight area behind the water pump or timing cover housing,and where the hell can I find the torque specs for the new housing?
Dude, your the Boss! thank you for the EXCELLENT VIDEO !
Many thanks for the kind words. Glad I could help! Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
Thank you for explaining this so an older woman with no automotive experience can understand. Having this replaced right now on my 2017 Ram 1500. I was a little taken back at how much money i am going to be spending on this so I thought I would research it. Is it typically a 500. To 600.$ job??
Always good content, I own 2 of these engines and I have done the oil filtre housing on my own on information from your channel. Thank you.
what would happen if that small plastic piece (lil piece holding spring on tower) falls in to the hole?
+OMGodfrey That's really a good question. Do you start taking items off the engine to try to locate such as drop the oil pan to see if it can be found? In a perfect world yes. I haven't seen one broke when it came in already. The ones I see break a second or two after I remove the oil filter cap. I then am able to get all the pieces out. In theory with it being plastic and as small as the piece may be.....the oil pump screen will stop it if it makes it to the oil pan. If you know for sure that the piece fell down the hole then dropping the pan wouldn't be a bad next step to see if it can be located.
@MC - This is an excellent video. I just learned about this plastic part breaking a few days ago. And here you have full video and writeup on this issue. The newer housing has had problems and there's been two engineering changes to remedy the situation. My question to you... can the newer housing be used on the 2011-2013 3.6L motor? I think the newer filter design is better than the older design assuming they worked out the 2014 and newer housing design issues.
Thanks in advance..
I haven't tried to see if it will interchange with the older style. One issue I would see is the obvious.....every time you had the oil changed they would try to install the wrong oil filter. Both versions use a different style of cartridge filter.I have seen that done before by an aftermarket shop and it caused no oil pressure. Luckily it didn't damage the engine. Thanks for finding my channel and watching the video. Make sure to subscribe if you haven't already
OK... I perform my own oil changes so that won't be a problem. This link was posted in a thread on Wrangler Forums.. that's how I found your video. I'm sure you'll be receiving many more visitors.. the thread is about a 2014 Jeep that the engine was "blown" and FCA is not honoring the warranty due to the oil filter. I'm assuming it has somthing to do with your findings. Great work here.
+a990dna Thanks.....I will try to see if I can get my hands on both versions to see if anything obvious is different when side to side. Its always cool to hear about links in forum threads.....glad to see that others are sharing the videos. I too would prefer the newer style if its possible.
MotorCity Mechanic i have a 2012 Grand Cherokee 3.6 and i just put new gaskets on the part but two days later it is leaking agin does it mean i need a new part??
I dont think the seals/gaskets were the initial leak.....I believe it was the plastic assembly. I recommend replacing the complete assembly this time and then you shouldnt have any issues. I do have some new assemblies for sale if your interested. Its an option if your interested. If so then email me at david@motorcitymechanic.com. Thanks again for watching and make sure to subscribe
Appreciate your videos. Just ordered the part via your Amazon link. Like you said there are 2 part numbers that appear to be interchangeable, but filters change. My 2015 200C 3.6L uses PN#68105583AE, same number for other models except E is an F and filter doesn't have the locator pin type end. Started this adventure going after an oil pressure sending unit code and using your 2 part video on that. Had tried your shortcut video, but just couldn't get to it so went the manifold off route. Once I got to it the sending unit just spun as the bushing in the housing that it screws into was stripped and had been visibly leaking by. Also worth noting is all the parts houses are selling a 1-1/16 oil pressure switch as a direct replacement that uses a standard 1-1/16 hex head so sending unit sockets won't fit (to small without the rounded edges) and there isn't room to get a normal 3" long deep well in there so unless you get an OEM sending unit plan on removing this "Oil Filter HSNG" just to replace the pressure sending unit. Any idea what the torx head size is on these housings and what the torque spec is?
Actually I have a few videos related to the housing replacement that include that info. Here is the link to one of that series: th-cam.com/video/f0doIZI-fp4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the info.. Here's another issue with this units: Coolant leaks. It has a series of plugs in the housing , depending on what vehicle it's used on. On my 2014 caravan, one plug let go and lost all coolant. Terrible design and location for a "plastic" assembly.
Your correct. It’s rare that it leaks coolant but it can for sure. I fully agree about it being made of plastic....not my favorite. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
@@MotorCityMechanic mine is leaking coolant seems to be just pouring out from it somwhere through that valley started slowly for a few months but now it just drains the system in seconds and is un-driveable I'm sure it's not getting in the oil though.
Great video! Been there done that. Replaced it myself. I figured out when a oil change place would change my oil, they really wrenched on that 24MM cap housing. Bending and tweeking everything. Then the oil started leaking. Since I bought the van from my owner, I do every oil change. I'm very careful removing and tightening the cap. My question to you is: what can be done with the transmission to keep it from shifting down 1,2, even 3 gears going down a hill?? I will be going 70 MPH. As I start to go down the hill if I don't keep steady pressure on the gas pedal, and let off some to keep my speed at 70, the transmission will shift down! I'll go from 2,200 RPM to over 4,000 to 5,000 RPM!!!!! Ive tried everything to make it not do it. Nothing works! I put it in manual mode, still does it. Cruise on or of, still does it. Keeping my foot on the gas, when I do that, my speed just keeps increasing and now I am speeding! So whenever I see a down hill coming, I have to back way off and do like 40 to 45 MPH down a hill because of the shifting down. SO that puts everyone else trying to run me over going down a hill. I cringe everytime! Is there anyway to shut this off??? I hate it! I don't like my engine to go over 3,000 rpms! It's been back to the dealer many times and they say the transmission is working the way it's designed to. I'm and Expediter and I haul freight all over the country in this van. I have over 555,000 miles on it. I love the van, except for the transmission. I would think there would be a switch on the dash to shut it off. We think it's a program in the PCM or TCM that makes it do it. Can it be over written or deleted??? Cause I will tell you, it really sucks going 70 mph and all of a sudden your transmission drops down 3 gears and your engine is screaming!!! All these Promasters do it. Most people don't care and they just let them rev. I don't. Mine is a 2014 Ram Promaster 3500 3.6. Any information would be greatly appreciated !!! Thank you! Randy.
Oil change today revealed a broken spring valve mechanism. Nobody at the shop knew how it was supposed to work or if it was necessary. Even a trip to the local Dodge dealer left me wondering what part needed to be replaced - they could not find anything of the sort and no exploded diagram. I suspected then that this would require a whole new housing, or maybe it came with the cap. Your video cleared up all the mystery. I don't often comment on youtube videos, but your video really deserved an 'attaboy' today. Thanks!
+Tim Guezen I have been working with Dorman products to come up with a repair piece for this issue. It still may be awhile however. In the mean time the only repair is replacement of the oil filter housing/cooler assembly. They don't sale the individual pieces. I'm hoping that Dorman changes that. It's been something that I have been after them about for awhile now. Thanks for the comment and make sure to subscribe if you haven't already
I got my test samples into today......will be testing them out over the weekend. I will make a video about it once done. If all goes well.....it will be Nov/Dec before its avail at your local parts store.
I need one of these ASAP. Please contact me at biss12002@yahoo.com
Hi so my water kept boiling hot and my water reservoir would be empty in just a few blocks away I heard water and oil goes through there and that is the main problem
When there is an oil cooler issue you would have either a coolant leak in that area where it is located and the other would be oil getting into the coolant. There are many causes for your issue, I dont think this is one. Its going to take having someone look at it to find the issue.
Thank u bro that solved a 3 month headache 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome! Glad that I could help. Thanks for being a subscriber as well.
Hi Pal! Say, I performed this op on my '14 Charger (remove/replace oil cooler). Loved the videos! While under there, I decided to swap out the spark plugs too. Got everything buttoned back up afterwards, started right up, but now I have an engine miss! It's not so bad that it throws a code...most of the time, but the code it does throw is a cylinder 5 misfire. I've pulled the plug, swapped the coil pack with #3, but no dice. Any idea of what I may have done to her? Thanks!
Oh by the way, here is my VIN: 2C3CDXHGXEH******. Thanks again!
Thanks for the explanation. You saved my butt so much time you can't even imagine.. great video and please keep up the good work...!...TKS
Thank you Geno! Appreciate you taking the time to comment!
Great video! Very clearly explained. Very helpful.
Much appreciated! Always happy to share some knowledge.
Aw man that's a great video deeply appreciated I was wondering cause my wife has the 2011 journey crew 3.6 I removed her oil and found oil and what seemed like mixer of coolant in that valley range you described she has the new filter like you stated not the spring one I removed her oil rings on the bottom on three of holes there's a small piece broke off on the right side of each of the three holes in the same spot where the oil rings go like someone most likely our mechanic or his helpers accidentally used a screw driver or something to remove the oil rings and might of chipped off those small tiny pieces I removed the oil rings with my thumb fingernail didn't break anything on the other ones when I put back on the oil rings it covers those small spots flush but could it still possibly leak from there even though it seems sealed in with the new oil rings and the oil temp sensor and that other sensor do they need to be wrenched in all the way when I removed my wife's I still see threads on her sensors like they were not tightened all the way or is that the way they go also will I just have to replace the whole oil cooler housing like you mentioned possibly we've had our mechanic replace it three times and try to fix it about at least six times or more since 2014 and he's ASE Certified with his own shop him and his wife we've known and respect for years they do great work also but it seems at times the journey frustrates him with the same problem alot of the times if you can respond when you get a chance I sure would be thankful also I like your channel keep up the great job you do good work thanks
Great video you know your stuff
Thanks Scott. Appreciate you checking out the video and for the kind words. Make sure to subscribe
Hey is this issue resolved on the models 2015 and up.. and how abt a 2014 v8 rt or a srt trim does that also have the same issue?
Around 2015-2016 we saw fewer and fewer issues. It’s only in the v6, not the v8. The v8 doesn’t have this set up. Thanks for the question and make sure to subscribe
Hey thanks for the video, I just got an oil change and my car started leaking oil that same day. Then the check engine light came on a few days later. Is it possible that the repair guy broke it? I had an early 2014 model.
I am havin that exact problem!!!
Let me know what happened?!
I think they broke mine. I want them to repair it but they tryin to say it's from wear and tear. It's a 2014.
If this part is faulty could it leak motor oil into the antifreeze? Father in-laws jeep is drinking oil into antifreeze
I have heard of coolers leaking and causing oil in the antifreeze. Its pretty much the oil location for oil to get into the coolant unless something major went wrong with the engine but you would have bigger issues then so my money is on the cooler. You will need to flush the coolant system numerous times to get as much of the residue out as possible. Thanks for asking and make sure to subscribe.
@@MotorCityMechanic we got this problem going on right now.. my wifes 2011 Journey. She had a Walmart doing oil changeShe had a Walmart doing oil change just before our wedding September 21 .. Had her cardHad her card completely checked out because we might have taken her car on our Roadtrip honeymoon.. Instead we drove my 16 STI.. Anyways I automatically thought when I seen the oily milky residue coming out of the reservoir relief ( puddles on the ground ) that one of the bone head mechanics put oil in coolant reservoir... Well it looks like I was wrong. lol I'm not ready todo this repair 😔😔😔
@MC Mechanic Is the Coolant hooked up to the Oil Adapter/housing unit? If yes, would it be possible that a leak in the adapter/housing unit cause the Coolant to be murky?
It sure is and its the most likely cause of that issue. I recommend replacing it and have the cooling system flushed multiple times until the coolant clears up. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
Thanks for sharing awesome how you explained it .. definitely a poor design
Wonder how many engine blew up because of this design flaw
Thanks alot man you saved me $$$- i almost went to a dealership... "I got a oil change at Firestone on my Dodge Charger 3.6 Sxt 2014- The specs on the oil filter they put seemed to be the right size and new style but it was a cheap after market part (Engine light turned on>oil pressure was high/engine was running rough!)... I bought a Mopar OEM oil filter installed it myself> car runs great an nomore engine light..."
John Perez Goes to show you that quality matters. It’s the reason why I recommend OEM when ever possible. Glad you got it figured out in the end. Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching. Make sure to subscribe
I had the oil bypass valve and tower break on me while changing my oil this past weekend. I found the doorman replacement valve online but cannot find the tower anywhere. Is the tower removable or do I need to replace the entire housing?
The tower isn’t avail by itself so you will have to replace the entire assembly. Dorman makes a one size fits all replacement that uses the newer oil filter and does way with the tower and bypass valve design that you currently have
Got 2012 Jeep Wrangler went to get in it to go to work. Alot of oil under the it no oil on dipstick. Looks to me like most oil is around front of motor. Could this be my problem or front seal. I did notice some drips as I pulled into garage.
It’s very possible. Not many other locations where the oil leaks unless someone didn’t install the oil filter cap oring correctly
Gerät Video,nur so you have a similar Video Foto the Diesel Version in the WK2 fromm 2016?
I currently don’t but will keep it in mind
I work for Chrysler these are gravy. Question though. Are both oil filter housings similar. As in can you install the new style of you removed an old style ? What else is different ? Where is the bypass valve in the newer styles?
They are interchangeable and before the bypass valve kit came out...some where making that swap. You run into the whole.....lube shop installing the wrong filter issue and yes it happens lol. Its best in my opinion to keep it the same so there is no confusion for the mechanic working on it or the next person that buys it. Not tooo sure where on the 2014 and newer....possibly in the cap or at the lower end of the oil filter opening.
i have a 2012 grandcaravan 3.6 i can't figure out what would cause some oil to be in my throttle body housing,will this also cause it shut off randomly
First thing I recommend is replacing the PCV valve and then monitor it over time. Slight amounts isnt abnormal...just depends on the amount. I havent seen this cause a shutting off randomly however.
Why need to replace the whole part,if everything is fine except the 0 rins?
Is it bad that part of the bypass valve cage fell down inside and can't get it out? Will it hurt anything since it's plastic?
I have learned over time that it causes no issues. I dont like things falling inside but what it would take to get it out doesnt justify the time and money spent. I wouldnt worry about it personally if it was my vehicle. Thanks for commenting and make sure to subscribe.
Is there anyway i could upgrade my 2011 Chrysler Town and Country Oil Cooler Assembly to newet style so i dont have the old style oil cooler assembly?
Daniel Perreira morning. You can switch versions and they will bolt up with no issues. The problem that comes up is oil filters. Shops and mechanics select oil filters based on year of engine and when you make that switch....the wrong oil filter will be selected and installed. This can become a big issue. People say they will be the only ones changing their oil but over time vehicles get given to other family members or sold to other people and that’s when the issue comes up again. So to answer the question....yes you can, but should you is the next question you need to ask yourself. Thanks for asking and for watching. Make sure to subscribe
@@MotorCityMechanic @MotorCity Mechanic Thanks will keep that in mind. Thought i subscribed but will do. U also helped me on fixing my Dodge Magnum R/T Transmission from video u posted thanks again all da way from Hawaii,Oahu🤙🤙
Daniel Perreira You might have......TH-cam doesn’t tell me if people are subscribed so I ask everyone lol. Glad that I can always help and thanks for coming back to the channel
thanks for the video!!! after changing the complete housing on my pentastar 3.6, my coolent temp is stick to 107-110 degree... please advise...
All I can say is to make sure the sensor on the housing is plugged in completely and make sure all the air is bled out of the coolant system.
So glad I found this page. My wife called today from her 2016 Jeep GC and said low oil pressure light just came on. I said pull over and shut it down. I drove 8 miles to meet her and oil was all underneath the car. No oil on the stick. Had it towed home and put a gallon back in, just to drive it off the wrecker and into the shop. Now it's not leaking (other than residual on frame/pan) Drain plug, filter cap, and filler cap all tight. Had no clue where to start looking. This video helped me at least find a starting point. Thanks, and wish me luck.
This just happened to me today. It is a 2014 Jeep Wrangler JK with 82,000 miles on it. It is a few months older than its warranty and I think I'm going to be eating this one. Based on how common this issue was/is on the 2014 this should have been a recall item. New subscriber here. Really enjoyed your style of presentation.
Sorry it happened James. It does seem to be more common on the 2014 models for sure. Thanks for watching, commenting, and for subscribing.
About to fix mine on my 2013
I work as a mechanic for a municipality where we are basically our own customer (as opposed to working flat rate for a customer) and have always wondered what your employers think of you guys making videos of you working? Great videos by the way. I can usually just use the little time bar thingy along the bottom or speed up the video just to see how you go about something I may be working on. We currently have 10 Ram 3500s and 9 Ram 5500s and I am here because of my '11 Durango 3.6.
This was very helpful thanks! I got given the wrong oil filter from the parts guy (Older style for my 2014). I as suspicious when it looked different to the old one. When I put it in, low oil pressure 0.4 -1.2 Bar. It should be 5.0 Bar plus. Returned to normal as soon as i put the right filter in
What if it's coolant leaking in the valley instead of oil? O-rings have been changed, no sign of oil-coolant mix, but with pressure test definitely coming from the unit
Andrew Siciliano sounds like the rubber seals on the cooler to housing are leaking. However they aren’t avail by themselves. I recommend replacing the oil filter housing assembly. It can leak oil or coolant. Thanks for asking and make sure to subscribe
I just found almost all of the oil drained out of my engine, and it's all in the radiator and overflow container. Thick, brown, milky oil and coolant. While the dipstick is bone dry, the engine compartment is full of the oily mess in the drivers front corner where it came out of the overflow hose. Is there a failure mode on this assembly where it could pull all the oil out of the engine and pump it into the coolant system? Or is a blown head gasket the only way that can happen? Great stuff, I'm subscribed and grateful for your videos!
I had the same problem with that thing popping out during oil change on my 2011 Charger they do sell that piece at AutoZone in Florida for about $22
Great to hear that the parts are on the shelf! The more people that know about it the better. Thanks for finding this video and for buying the repair kit. Make sure to subscribe
I recently changed my oil for the second time in my 2014 DGC 3.6L. Soon after, I started smelling burning oil and at first thought i had spilled a little oil when refilling it (I didn't, maybe a little when draining it however). The smell got worse and I took a long look all over the engine and found the telltale pools of oil on the transmission. I know what to do now and Id like to replace the unit with a Mopar OEM part. However they are on extreme backorder at the dealership (they have 31 ordered already) and I can't find one online. I purchased the O-ring kit today thinking that I could try this approach. I feel as confident about doing it as I will ever feel (until I actually do it), but I just don't want to put all the work into it and have it not be the O-rings. I had no idea I could damage the unit by over-tightening the filter screw cover either time that I changed the oil, so I could have easily done it and this could be self-inflicted. If it is, could the failure be at the O-rings or is the housing likely cracked? Is there an after market part manufacturer that you could recommend for this part.
Thanks for heads up. I have a 2020 so the new style filter. Vehicle has less than 2000 miles so hopefully it will be quite a while before I see these issues but helpful troubleshooting if it does come around.
Based on seeing the full assembly off the vehicle and the plastic main body my main concern would be a stress fracture/crack of the entire housing body or crack around the cartridge housing.
Finding your page has helped me learn a lot about my 2012 charger v6... thanks for your help!
Lately I have been getting p06dd code and my car would not accelerate after hitting around 3000 rpm. I had recently got my oil changed at dodge dealership checked the filter and it is right. Cleared the code and erase the code it comes back on eventually but the oil psi shows around 40 psi under normal driving temp drops down to as low as 16 at idle when warm. I did notice oil at bottom of filter housing. Should I replace the oil filter housing or the oil pump or both? Again thanks for sharing your knowledge of these Mopar cars
I have to replace the oil pressure sensor in my 2013 JK, just picked up the sensor,upper and lower intake gaskets and spark plugs this weekend... If it was yours, would you go ahead an replace the whole assy. while its apart? Has ~85k miles on it.
Personally I would wait until there is an issue. It isnt cheap but it does come with the sensor.....so hard to say. If it was mine I would do whats needed and save that money for a later repair or service. Thanks for asking and for watching. Make sure to subscribe.
Hello, I enjoy your videos here on youtube. I Just have a quick question about the oil filter housing on the pentastar 3.6
I have been reading that when replacing the oil filter, some people experienced oil leaks due to the filter housing cracking.
In some cases, the oil leaks were substantial. Have you experienced this?
Thanks.
If and when the Oil filter bypass valve fails which i'm sure it will on a 2013 3.6 is it possible to upgrade to the 2014 + style and eliminate future failures of that type? The 2014 up design seems to be an improvement. Thanks Chris
Afternoon. I have been asked that before but I personally haven't tried it as of yet. Hate to cause some engine damage if there was some odd difference so I have been a bit worried about doing it. I know the newer version is taller at the filter location. Then you also have to be on your game as far as using the right filter or if someone else changes the oil (them knowing it has been upgraded) and uses the wrong filter which is possible. I have been wanting to know just like yourself....just haven't yet. Thanks for the question. Make sure to subscribe
I have a 2016 wrangler I have change my oil since the beginning thank you for making me pay extra special attention to the oil filter I could easily see getting the wrong filter popping it in there and not realizing it’s the wrong one thanks again for this video. Just one moment in lapse of judgment and it could cost you an engine it’s not like you can see down in there when you pop that filter in
my avenger 2012 use that part and a few months ago started mixing oil into the water deposit (no water in motor oil) and my mechanic change this part for a new one. Now, 5 months later is mixing oil and water again. Is it possible that the same part is failing again?
Thanks for another great video. I suggest anyone watching these videos, not only subscribe but donate to the channel. David is a great mechanic in a world of parts changers. I have emailed with a question myself, and he got back to me right away. Thank you, and keep them coming. :) Another good source of info is Scotty Kilmer, he is an old school wrench down in TX. who also gives you the straight scoop on things. He does not go as in depth as this site, but gives good info on basic topics for those who are not mechanically inclined.
"Heard a noise" Yep :-( Luck to hear it and go WTF Dorman piece was not out yet :-( $
The repair piece has been out for awhile now. Glad that they stepped up and was welling to listen and make it happen.
Been chasing an oil leak on one of these engines for 3 days. I found it after watching your video. To bad i can't get part for 2 weeks. Thanks for making video, it saved my butt.
Confirms everything I've read the last few days about this oil filter / bypass valve assembly.
I love his quote, "you know parts people, they give you what they give you, they ain't always right".
I have the code p06dd in a 300 2013 3.6, and it won't let me go all the way because the code comes out, I changed the oil pressure bulb but the fault continues there every time I step on it when accelerating, could you help me?
With that code your going to have to replace the oil pump assembly.
@@MotorCityMechanic inevitably, some cheaper secondary action?
@@MotorCityMechanic Does it have to be original? I've seen some cheaper ones on ebay and on the open market...
I have a 2013 Ram 1500 with the 3.6. Do you have a video that will help me locate where my oil pressure switch is? thank you
Great video and helped me solve part of my problem. I have a 2012 JK Wrangler. In the process of changing the oil I removed the filter, when I turned to get the new filter off my bench, I heard something "crash". The entire center assembly of the oil filter housing had "shot out". Not just the oil pressure bypass switch, but the entire center "cage" thing. At the base was a large spring, so I put it back into the housing and everything seemed to fit together. I then found your video and realized that the pressure bypass switch had disappeared, I'm not sure where it ended up in my garage. I purchased the Dorman replacement, and put everything back together. The only unknown now is whether or not the center part of the housing is working properly. Is it supposed to be able to come out?
Morning, the center portion should not come out. When it does you cant reinstall it correctly. There is some sort of locking mechanism that keeps it in place and when it lets go.....you wont be able to reset it. I have cut one apart once trying to see if I could and had no luck. Not sure what affect it will have as it sits.....in a perfect world I would say replace the oil filter housing/cooler to be on the safe side. Everytime I take one of these older oil filter caps off I step back and wonder if it will spit something out...typically that bypass valve. Thanks for asking and make sure to subscribe.
Man. That center pole or whatever its called fell out on me too. I had no idea where that large spring is supposed to go.
So it sits at the base huh? I thought i was able to resit the pole back in by screwing it in but I guess I was just fooling myself.
You can see by that design, that part is designed to fail.
Wouldn't put it past a car mfg one day to produce a all plastic engine that will only last 100k miles then you throw it away and put a new one in.
I have seen other brands use alot of plastic and it didnt seem to work well especially when it came to coolant systems. Who knows.....that might be a company working on that engine as we speak lol. I hope not
Great video, very informative... on the paper filter theres 4 tabs that lock into the threaded cap. On a premium paper filter there is a piece of plastic hanging between the 4 tabs...does that plastic piece that hanging between tabs sit in the tower on the bypass valve?
this guy is amazing, very knowledgeable and informative, no bias,
for just a regular guy like me, information is our best source so we have at least a slightest idea
how "mechanics world talks" thank you, your kindness will go far.
Hi motorcity I like your videos...Well..I have a problem whit my 2014 Dodge Grand Caravan is liking oil from top to down..I seen the oil came out from around the oil housing but besides that makes a noise like tic.tic.tic.tic..so if I press the gas pedal the noise is stronger..What do you think..could you give me an advice..Thank you.
You may have multiple issues. To start with the leak most commonly will be the oil filter housing/cooler assembly. Its very common on 2014 model vehicles. As far as the noise....thats hard to say. It could be a bad roller rocker arm/damaged cam lobe and it could also be a cracked flex plate. Time will need to be spent trying to isolate exactly where the noise is coming from. Thanks for watching and for the question. Make sure to subscribe.
I wish i have seen this video 4 days ago it would have save me almost the whole day of work .... great explanation thanks for sharing your experience
I have a 2013 Jeep Wrangler this will be the second time this adapter has leaked oil when I replace it this time can I upgrade it to the 2015 or 2016 that has the different filter I also own a 2015 Jeep Wrangler
You can but the main issue will be making sure to install the correct oil filter each oil change. If you take it somewhere then they most likely make that mistake. People say they will change their own oil but eventually it will get sold to someone else or someone else will change the oil and then the mistake happens. But yes....it will swap and bolt up exactly the same. Thanks for asking and make sure to subscribe.
@@MotorCityMechanic thanks for responding to my comment yes I had a mechanic that works at four wheel parts help me do it and we did some research and found out that we put the newer style in which the letters on the part number is an AF 2019 model the guy at the dealership said it was the more updated improved one. But no one does my oil changes but me and the good thing is I have a 2015 JK so now I don't have to buy two different oil filters thanks for your help
@@mikemay7134 Thats the best thing about getting parts from the dealer.....they will have the latest updated version while at the parts store its the same old part that never changes. It would be cool it someone came up with a good tag for the cap that would let people know which filter to use when the assembly was been swapped out with the newer version. Thanks fore the reply back and glad to see that it turned out well
Thank you David. Another excellent video on something that may save alot of people alot of unnecessary problems.
Excellent informative, in focus, detailed succinct video. Thank you
I am about to investigate an issue that I suspect involves one of the issues you raised
How much do you charge for replacement job??
On average around $600. Thanks for asking and make sure to subscribe
Hi David. I have a question. I have a 2012 town and country. The money light is on. Code is the p06dd. I replaced the entire filter housing with new sensors. The light is still on and when I scan it the code says permanent. Should I try and replace the oil pump. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
The most likely cause will be the oil pump. I guess I am lucky with the factory scanners and when I see codes I can clear them and no longer see them unless they return. I feel you will be replacing that oil pump eventually. Thanks for asking and for watching. Make sure to subscribe.
@@MotorCityMechanic . Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. Keep up the great videos.
@@jamesratliff1097 Your welcome and make sure to enjoy the weekend
@@jamesratliff1097 Your welcome James and make sure to subscribe.
Yesterday a rookie guy from JiffyLube At Memphis did an oil change and all the sudden about 200 miles later I was replacing my light bulb and there was tons of oil in my coolant reservoir. I saw him having hard time replaying the filter.. I honestly believe he broke something when closing it up I saw him flipping the filter couple times to make it sit. I have 2016 Ram Promaster.
I havent seen the wrong filter cause the coolant and oil to mix. The only thing that usually causes that is a failure oil cooler. If an oil changer screws anything up it will usually cause an oil leak or check engine light. Based on the oil in the coolant......I dont feel they caused it. Thats just my opinion. Where is located.....they cant get access to it do any damage....it would be an internal failure. Doesnt mean that they didnt install the wrong filter but just not coolant related.
MotorCity Mechanic thank you man.. now the oil is getting more in the reservoir. It’s definitely the engine oil not anything else I had to add more engine oil to the engine. I am in Canada now driving all the way to Minnesota (home) do you think it’s safe to drive
I will update you what they find btw
@@showmequick2245 I would keep an eye on it.....its not a good situation but you have to do what you have to do. In a perfect world I would say tow it and have it fixed but thats not always possible. Take it easy and keep checking the oil level and your coolant temp.
Also note that the filter cap has a torque and correct u 45 degree adapter to be used. If torqued too much the filter housing can crack
Hi, what if you don’t have a oil pressure bypass valve? Is that a big problem? Because when I look at my dodge, it didn’t have a oil pressure bypass valve.
If this is failing can it cause overheating? On the freeway? My jeep started running hot and I did the thermostats and flush .. but today went under the jeep and saw oil leaking all around the transmission and see liquid in the valley .. could this be the issue of over heating?
Hi, how long does it take to replace this part? Thumbs up on the video, thanks for posting.
Was told today it would be $1,100 to replace this by dealer??? But have a warranty on my thermostat... how do I know that’s the right part and not being ripped off?
You have a warranty on the thermostat? I just want to make sure I fully understand. I know the part is about $300 and the labor cant be $800 so I would be worried about that quote. The warranty is what I am curious about.....is it a Chrysler related warranty?
Now on the new style unit is the oil pressure valve in the cap? Or is it down in the base somewhere? We had a oil filter implode on a 2018 Promaster with that 3.6..
Advanced Auto Parts has this on their web site.
Dorman - OE Solutions Oil Filter Bypass Valve
LIMITED LIFETIME REPLACEMENT
Part # 917-992CD
would this be a good replacement?
For sure.....I got with Dorman and got them to make that kit. I also did a few videos about that. So for sure....if needed, make sure to buy one. Thanks for asking and for watching. Make sure to subscribe.
What about the mast/cage/tube on my 2012 TC van? My bypass valve was apparently gone from a prior oil change place. Today the OC tech told me it was missing. AND the mast/cage/tube that is anchored at the bottom of the filter housing and the large spring had popped out too. Can’t get them to seat properly. Have the Dorman part installed no problem. It can’t compress the large spring and get the plastic tube to lock it down. I did hold it together and carefully screwed on the cap over the filter and mast/tube assembly. Not sure is anything is getting filtered. Pressure about 32 when warm and at idle. Pressure up in 70 range at Wide Ooen Throttle. But quickly comes back down to 35 while doing 45 around town. Any thoughts on how long this might last? 90k miles on the van. Thanks
Great Video. I have a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with the 3.6L V6. Changed out the alternator and then started getting the code P06DA related to the Engine oil pressure control circuit. When I searched for this code on you tube your video came up. Crazy thing is everything is reading fine on the oil pressure and oil temp. I had a diagnostic run and they said the oil pump was a dual speed oil pump and it is coming on at 1500 RPMs but is supposed to turn on at 3000 RPMS. Belief is the oil pump solenoid is bad. They are recommending replacing the entire oil pump. Could this just be a loose cable from when the solenoid was changed? Is there anyway to replace the solenoid without having to replace the entire pump? Any advice or pictures on location for the pump would be greatly appreciated.
I recommend double checking your work. Reason I say that is because the connector for the pump is on the same side of the block as the alternator....they are only a few inches away from each other. look just above the oil pan on the passenger side about 2 inches back. Make you didnt damage it during the alternator replacement.
@@MotorCityMechanic Thanks so much. My daughter drives it and she said the light has been on for a while. Did not bother to mention it until I asked her about it. I will take a look when I get home.
I got a 2014 wrangler. No leaks, took it to jiffy lube for a oil change, now about two weeks later it’s leaking straight down onto my exhaust!!😡. I believe this is exactly the problem. People keep saying I should buy a OEM replacement, but in my mind I’m thinking if the original one broke, why would I buy another one just like it for 130.00$ more then one similar? Any thoughts??? Thanks.
Great video, keep it coming with the good advice brotha!! Us not so mechanically inclined people really enjoy them!! Lol.
Thank you! great highly instructive. Have had this problem with my Jeep and it is a common problem with the 3.6. Youd think that Theye'd redesign it! also ran into the problem with Auto Zone trying to sell me the wrong oil filter. What a difference a year model makes. (Mine is a 2014) Got my first one replaced under warranty so now at 141k I will be waiting for your video on replacement when the shoe drops.
Perfect solution The shop was about to replace the oil sender and I found your videos. It was the wrong filter from Napa just as you said. I replaced it with the correct filter and all light are gone and the Van is not in limp mode anymore. You saved me 300$ as it was going in for repair this afternoon. I learnt a lesson not to trust the parts stores computer when you ask for something it might not be correct. Thanks again
Very true.....to many chances for mistakes. Glad you caught it and found my channel. Appreciate the comment and make sure to subscribe.
800.00 repair from dealer on 2-1/2 year old truck Due to Same Oil Leak issue, I don't know if I can complain since I do have 104 K miles on it.......? 2016 ram 1500 Bought New,
I don't think i buy another Dodge, already on 4th Recall and 1- Optional repair on Gas Tank Strap.... Too many issues
my sons 2016 Ram 1500 has the Pentastar V6 that the dealer has been doing 90% the oil changes. He just finished changing the oil yesterday and he said the oil filter cap doesn't ever tighten up?? Says it isn't leaking but that thing is under pressure and I know the O-ring is actually the seal but I worry about it nat tightening up. No prob or needs new housing?? Cap threads look good??
Excellent Video, Excellent work MotorCity Mechanic. Gonna bust this out this weekend just because I found this video.
Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. Take your time and you should do well. Make sure to subscribe.
I finally replaced mine with an AL unit from Amazon. Put in a the 2014 style filter. Thought it would not fit in between the cylinder heads due to the cap on one of the casting plugs. But it went in! Old plastic unit had a bad O-ring on the oil supply tube, about a quart of oil in the galley. All the plastic clips are a PITA and some important ones break! Just so you are aware, purge hose broke in half due to brittleness.
I have 2012 challenger 3.6l. I changed the water pump, gasket, and thermostat this past October. Just last week, my car started overheating. Noticed I lost coolant. Topped it off a few days ago, and noticed today it’s low again. I noticed some gushing sounds from right under where the oil filter housing is and noticed some dark “stains” right under it with my flashlight. What could be the most common problem?? Thanks
Ran into that bypass valve issue hit me in the face when changing wife’s oil, luckily Dorman makes a new valve and spring kit, the new oil cooler housing is it the newer style on the 2014+ or same style as the one before thanks
Not sure if you have seen all my related videos to this issue......that dorman part, that was me lol. I contacted them and after a few months they agreed it was needed and started making them. There will always be a difference between the 2011-2013 and the 2014 and newer versions. Even the replacements will be the same design as the original but most likely updated. That way the wrong filters dont get installed....got to keep everything the same for that reason. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe.
@@MotorCityMechanic Thank you for making this video. I had recently had my car serviced and noticed that the bypass valve was missing. I don’t know when or where it happened but thankfully I wasn’t driving the car long so I just went to advance auto parts and bought the replacement bypass valve and a new oil filter. Thankfully I checked the oil filter because they tried to give me the wrong oil filter
Well shoot this why I have oil on the ground. I keep finding problems, & common problems with my used dodge caravan...they don't seem reliable. Even put $300 in the part for a refurbished tpm board brain, while everyone else wanted $500-$900!
Where can I buy one of these for 2017 3.6L journey? I live in smaller town. Parts stores are saying it’s not available. Cant find online either. They suggested dealership 🤷♂️😞
Hey so I got the p06DD code on a 2012 Chrysler 3.6. It was missing the bypass valve spring and the filter wasn’t oem. After correcting that problem I cleared the light and did the drive cycle to clear the hard code. It cleared but came back like 20 min. Later. The oil pressure is within specs. Any ideas? Thanks.
Hey I have a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.6L and I went to the dealership for an oil change. They told me I had a broken oil cooler and refused to change my oil. I’ve been driving around for about 7 months with the same oil! I was told if they don’t replace it that oil will just leak out since the cooler is broken. I’ve never once seen any oil leak or anything under my car. What would you recommend?? Thanks
2014 Dodge Challenger sxt 6cil.
Quick question, my car overheated yesterday, and i was about a block away from a water hose. drove there and sprayed the radiator for a couple of minutes, with car running. since i had a towel in my trunk i used it to open the coolant cap carefully, letting pressure out. it took maybe 2 minutes. nothing burst up like vapor or anything which was weird for me. after taking the towel off i noticed a milky chocolate liquid coming from the cooler reservoir. I saw a few videos, read a few articles, and spoke to a couple of friends, getting different answers. I checked the engine oil dip stick and cap, no milky stuff. just regular oil. someone mentioned that if its clean it might be the engine oil cooler......Now, my question: is this true? or will it be head gaskets? any info w help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead for your time....
Ok so my oil housing unit was leaking oil so I had to replace it. Now prior to taking it out, I had no check engine or codes for the car. I go to hook all sensors back up and notice the pressure sensor they sent me didn’t fit, so I put the old one on new housing. Now I have a code, for oil pump change po5dd or something like that? I’m thinking it’s the sensor that’s not reading correctly. As I’m driving my oil pressure fluctuates anywhere from 7-40 psi. But when I’ve driven enough to warm the oil, and only while I’m at a complete stop will it drop to 4 psi and the low oil pressure warning comes on. Im thinking it’s got to b the old sensor right? But before I do that I will check my filter.
Thanks alot for this video! Since the oil filter cap relies on the o-ring for sealing and not the threads, would you say perhaps it would be a good idea to simply not tighten the cap down all the way each time you do an oil change to mitigate against overtightening issues and risk breaking the canider?
Hi first time seeing your videos I am a new subscriber. Thank you for the great free information. I had one question did you ever make a video changing the actual oil pump. I have a 2014 300 base model that might need replacing.
What is the average cost to replace the whole unit. I’m leaking bad. I put stop leak in, and a month later My oil was low again. I have the same oil leak spots down around the filter and on the other side of the engine where the transmission is. I also have a coolant leak in the same area. Actually I had the coolant leak first. I put coolant stop leak in the reservoir and that slowed it down considerably. But then the oil started leaking after I had my oil changed about 6mths ago. I figured maybe they cracked the housing because they were training a new guy who seemed to have a mental disability. But I don’t think it’s cracked. I think it’s exactly what is happening with all 3.6l pentastar. I have a 2014 journey sxt. How much is it to get this fixed? I’m in Canada 🇨🇦
I was wandering from where the engine is getting some oil stains. I have 115000 miles and this is the first time that I change oil on it, it was always done at the dealership. I found the plastic cover cracked and slightly loose and there is no pressure valve in at all.
I wander how long it has been that way.
Thank you for your great advice.
I was getting so worried that I was going to have to replace the Oil filter housing, but thanks to your video I got the dorman part and done. Thank you