Chrysler/VW 3.2 and 3.6 Rocker Arm Replacement Part 1
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Excellent video. Two CRITICAL steps that weren’t mentioned but made all the difference: 1.) To remove tension on the right side timing chain, you MUST rotate the crank slightly clockwise in order to put the tensioner under slight tension or the special tool will not be able to release the tensioner (there are other videos that do cover this - do yourself a favor and look them up before you break your special tool like I did), 2.) On the left side, the trick of putting the cam into the neutral position by rotating it 30-degrees ALSO needs to be done to the exhaust cam (not just the intake cam). I did find that zip-tying the phasers and phaser locking block saved a lot of heartache. I also did notice that if you’re struggling to get the phaser back onto the camshaft, it’s an alignment issue as there’s a key guide on the cams that you need to line up just right, so work on slight rotation of the cam rather than wiggling and praying. Overall, amazing video!
I challenge anybody to find a more talented and articulate mechanic than this dude! He is on a whole different level.
I know he makes it look to easy
He is a class act for sure and someone that I have the privilege to call a friend.
ChrisFixit.
This guy is Chrisfix for techs
No doubt, he’s the best !!! 👍
I closely followed all steps in this two-part series to replace the
valvetrain components in the left head of my 2015 Wrangler's ticking 3.6
Pentastar at 60K miles. There was, indeed, a bad lifter and exhaust
rocker arm. After a couple of weeks of road and freeway use, the motor
is still purring and I'm confident my repair is successful and going to
hold up. I could not have done it without your incredible guidance,
David! I've been intimidated to get any lower than the top of the valve
covers for 30 years since a younger, tool-challenged me screwed up a
couple of engines. Yet here I am a short time ago, confidently holding
my Jeep's camshaft for reference photos! Furthermore, since I live in
Western Washington where parts and repair costs are HEAVILY inflated,
between this and my horribly-located PCV valve change, I saved myself
nearly $5K! A well-earned gift is coming your way, my friend! Thank
you on behalf of my whole family.
Its awesome to hear feedback like this. This shows you that the videos are helping people with getting their vehicles back on the road and also with saving a lot of money in the end. It makes it worth while when I hear it. Thanks again for reaching out and for telling me your experience. Glad that I could help and my hats off to you for taking on this task.
did you get an engine code?
How long did it take you to do?
Im doing mine right now, about to take camshafts off. Waiting on the tool.
This guy is the best Mechanic on TH-cam.
I want to tell you thank you very much for the kind words!
Plus, he likes the Milwaukee Brewers.
This video has saved me thousands of dollars and gave me the courage to tackle a project I thought was over my head. Thank you
Best video I’ve seen on a 3.6 to date. Thank you!
THANK YOU SOOOO much for you video. Fixed my 3.6 and now it runs perfect. Intake cam got gouged by two failed rockers. $500 dollars later. New cam 8 new rockers and lifters. Reinstalled and runs PERFECT!!!! Thank you soooooooo much.
This is a phenomenal tutorial! It's so clear and detailed yet concise, and so easy to see exactly what you're talking about due to the excellent camera angles. Thank you!
David, you’re the best. As always, thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with this community. God bless. 🙏🙏❤️❤️
Hello David, I am a new subscriber and cannot thank you enough for these videos. I just did the driver side rocker arms and oil filter housing on my 2012 Jeep Wrangler following your instruction and the Jeep sounds great for it's 160,000 miles. I am sharing your videos on some Jeep Facebook groups. Thanks again!
You know your stuff! This is THE vid to watch if you are doing this job!👍
Always cool to hear the feedback about the videos. Many thanks
Brother I'm going to have to say your videos are the best I've seen. No stories about if it's raining outside shit, straight to the process. Fantastic job!
Great job again. I actually watched part two first on accident. All good though. Excellent quality right here, and great editing. I know this takes a lot of time to edit. The sound quality is really great as well. Thank you David for another great video. It's nice to watch a real video for a change/ Jim
Fantastic video. The most complete, comprehensible, articulated video on rocker arm replacement I ever seen. Thank you Mr. David
You are one of the best 'teachers' I've seen! I feel like I could do this with no problem! (I can't but your video is inspirational and educational. Makes me feel as if I can!) Thanks!
I have 155,000 on my 2013 town and country 3.6. Lifter or lifter’s started pecking so I watched your video and it was great, very informative. I don’t have the room in my garage to do the work and I don’t have the time. So I called a famous repair shop in the Dayton Ohio area (they are even on the radio on Saturday’s) and asked for a price out the door replacing all lifters and rocker’s, barring the cams are ok. I know I could buy all good quality parts for 300$ excluding gasket sets. I figured labor would take less than 8 hrs. So l doubled the 300$ and figured 1,000$ for labor (1,600$ would be in the neighborhood right?). They quoted me 3,500$, I said you are kidding right? So I said what about just putting a remanufactured engine in it from jasper. I was told 12 - 15 thousand dollars. I just started laughing. I paid 15,000 for it back in 2018. They make dealerships look honest! Bend over baby!
Your bit the first to say that. I can’t understand what a lot of shops quote that price when what I feel is accurate is more around $1500ish without any cams
@@MotorCityMechanic Thanks for sharing your insights on pricing, a lot of channels won't discuss money for some reason. I'm potentially going to quote this job for a customer and I've had trouble reconciling the hours quoted by the book, the prices shops are throwing at people who post about it on forums, and what I think the job involves. I'm thinking of offering $1000 labor plus parts, but I want to make sure I'm not underpricing and end up messing up my week. There's another video out there that says it's a 20 hour job and a shortcut makes it 10 hours. Book time is 5.4 to 7.2 hours. I bet you can do it in under book time, I hope it takes me around 10 - 12 hours given it's my first time. And even if it takes me longer, I guess I can feel comfortable about my price quote given that you would do it for not much more.
Her car was ticking on cold start after having not run for many months, eventually warmed up and smoothed out. A short while later, it began running rough when cold and misfiring. We'll try a good oil change and premium filter, but I'm preparing for the possibility of stuck lifters.
Everyone wants to get rich quick. Some mechanics have no conscious, just as bad as stealerships.
Best how-to mechanic video on TH-cam. Just one note, you can use a 27 mm socket to turn the crank if you don’t have a one and 1/16 inch.
I had the right side replaced under an extended warranty. It paid for the warranty. Great info David 👍👍. TY
Whenever I’m doing something I haven’t done before on a Dodge vehicle, I’m always extremely relieved when I find a video by MotorCity Mechanic. I’m a 30 year veteran, but don’t see as many Dodges as other brands and I’m very thankful for your channel!
This very video is shared on all the Jeep forums whenever the "Tick" is brought up.
Hat's off to you sir for such an excellent and badly needed video since you are the only person to put out a quality rocker arm replacement video. Not to mention the other plethora of video's you have created. You got my Sub and likes.
You are so thorough and precise.....that its too hard to say I can't do the needed replacements on my wife's van.
So this weekend it will get done.
Thanks a ton for the excellent videos!
UPDATE: The repair is still holding with about 27k miles. Every mechanic advised same labor cost to install a new engine and no one was real interested in the job.
I ended up replacing all the rockers on bank 1 since I bought them and had everything apart. Also had to buy a new exhaust cam shaft.
Again.. Great video series, extremely detailed.
One of the best tutorials I've ever seen, I would love to sit at his feet and pick his brain about vehicles would learn so many priceless things.
This is the best tutorial that I have seen. Dave you are the best!
Thank you so much for this series. My wife's 14 Durango just started the roller tick and this helped a lot
Hello sir, your video on this topic is the best of all the ones on the entire internet, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experiences
Thank you so much for your help just pulled apart my 2012 jeep wrangler 3.6l and replaced all parts you recommended in the 2 part video. I could not have done it without your help. You rock thanks for showing me the right way. I took my time and knock it out
Awesome! Job well done, my hats off to you. Thanks for the feedback and make sure to subscribe
Excellent video on the correct way to do this repair. Fantastic job of explaining the how and why.
Awesome video my wife’s 2014 has the noise coming from passenger side rear , this video was a great guide and will aid in explanation to service department when dropped off for service thank you .
Great how to video. I did this job on my truck using this video (and some shop manuals). The one problem I had was getting the cam phasers back on the cam. I found that moving the cam with the crescent wrench worked like a charm, especially when one of the cams went into the unlocked position.
Great video. Best teacher out there! Being a female, l have did everything on this car and get my confidence from videos like this. All my work holds up and had to take my car back 3 times to the so call best transmission guy that worked on it. Every one of his gaskets leaked. Yikes..my oil pan never leaked when l did oil pump.
This guy is an excellent mechanic, and a great teacher. So grateful for the professional advice and detailed description. Literally saved me thousands!
Thank you
I repaired both of my vans just from watching his videos. I am grateful that he is TH-cam
Outstanding instructional video. After watching the video I did the complete job myself and saved thousands! Thank you David for taking the time to make these video's. Your presentation and knowledge is nothing short of perfection. I would not have attempted this job without your instructions.
FYI: I started hearing a slight tick which sounded like a failed ( old school) lifter tick. I did not wait long. Upon tear down inspection I had one bad rocker, one collapsed lifter and two weak failing lifters and had slight cam damage but only on the edge and not the lobe as described as best case scenario Engine was clean and had 93K 2013 GC. While there I replaced 24 rocker arms, 24 lifters, EGR, Plugs, Radiator fan, Thermostat, serpentine belt, tensioner and flushed the coolant. Take your time and follow David to the letter. Make sure you have the necessary tools ahead of time and of course all the needed gaskets. Thank you again David. You ARE the Master Mechanic!
Thanks again Mark!
AMEN... Excellent response, and I'm glad all worked out for you..
What is the best advice you can give us to prevent this ticking problem? Is the 5w20 good enough for this engine?
great video love it 10 months 100% clean from 30 yrs of addiction graduated from auto school in 86 attend stratford automotive school currently regained my passion.
You are the man. I have a 2017 Jeep GC with the 3.6L and I am no longer intimidated to do these repairs. You have the best videos on the planet and I appreciate your endeavors to help other people who want to do their own repairs.
he's a true blessing.. Definitely blessed, and he shares with the community.. I'm prepping for my 2015 RAM 1500 SLT 3.6.
I just wanna say thank you brother!!!
Your videos are so much help.
Just completed this job.
Thanks again brother you’re the man!
I don’t care what they say about you in the paper. 😎
Just found these videos, heck of a lot better instruction than what the factory trainer provided. Thank you!
Thank you so much David. I replaced a set of (24) rockers, lifters and one cam. I found a rounded left intake cam(#6) during the process. The tools recommended and advise to replace all made sense. I did this in my home garage with the tension release tools and did lose pressure once the cam slid out, was probably my mistake. The phaser did line up with some adjusting. All in all, I replaced 24 rockers, lifters, and a LS Intake cam. Couldn’t have done it without you. Thank you!!
Thx David for the video.. just completed on my 2015 Jeep Wrangler.. would have never been able to do it without ur detailed instructions.. you rock !!
Little story , I Have a 2017 Ram pro master 1500 the engine stared to make a noise , after seeing your video more than once I decide to give it a try , what can I loose if I needed a new engine I made notes based and all your info , it took me 8 hours following everything step by step and I replace all the rocker arms all the lifters and one camshaft , all thanks to your video , I Cross my fingers at the end and the van stared with no noise , everything work perfectly, I’m not a mechanic but I can follow , I’m so grateful to you for taking the time and teaching your knowledge . Thanks again
Loveeeee this video I hv a 2011 Durango just started ticking 4days now! I’m going to do this soon!!!! I hv 226k miles!!! Amazing video thank u for educating and great detailed video!!!!!
This video was an amazing help. I was going to attempt one of the "shortcut" methods before I found this. Got the tools I needed for under $20, and fixed my rocker tick. A bit intimidating removing cam shafts, but take your time and be thorough and it is surprisingly easy to do right. A million thanks to you for making this tutorial, easily saved me thousands of dollars.
Where did you purchase the tools and the part numbers
Oct. 6, 2023 8:00 pm . Your video has been so helpful, 74 years old, can’t afford a new charger soooo,
Have to fix 2011 charger, toxic orange. Still in great condition.
I had a 1966, 1968, 1970 chargers. Wish I still had them! Ha ha 💲💲💲
Great video!! Love your delivery of the details.
I love that you explain why the other methods aren’t a good idea. Saw a few videos of the pry method. It looks bad I mean you can easily wreck the valve cover surface or the springs.
dude is by far the best at doing these how to videos. keep it up
David, Thanks! This 2 part is great! I've been through factory training for 5 different Euro/Asian manufacturers in 42 years as a line tech and this beats all hands down. Hardest part was locating a left bank intake cam that wasn't on back-ordered for 3 weeks😁
Very well done. I only wish this was the 2.7L, since that's what I'm working on. I already did the timing chain, cam chains, tensioners, guides, water pump, put it all back together, ran perfect for a week, and now I hear heavy ticking on the upper half. Unlike your motor, the 2.7, (at least in the '05 Chrysler 300), the rocker arms are on the top and they only rest on the lifters. Some of mine were overly loose though and now I get to take it apart again. Even though your engine and much of the process is different, I'm still on my way now to watch part 2. Thanks again for a great vid!
Just wanted to say thanks again for this video. I just noticed ticking in my 3.6 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I watched your videos to educate myself about the repair. I shopped it to two different Jeep dealers. Discussing it with them after watching the video made all the difference in selecting the right one to do the job. There was no cam damage luckily. They replaced all of the rockers and lifters and it's quiet as a mouse now. My car has 185,000 mi on it.
how much did the job cost you?
@@jacobtorres9554 $1400
Tanks for make the video. I fixed my car after watching your videos you are a good teacher 👏👏👏
Absolutely the best! Gives me confidence in buying a Promaster. Excellent.
super clear, thanks for the hard work getting these videos out for us to use.
Outstanding tutorial, I will use this 2 part video as my guide. My 2013 JK is making the rocker arm tick noise on the driver's side at 95K miles.
In the middle of this job. Took the back valve cover off today. So far hardest part was pulling out the back wire harness attached by three push pins and then pulling off the valve cover. Being the first time was not sure how hard to pull on them. I'm also three trips into Harbor Freight for a stethascope which is tremendous, close quarters torx driver thingy and a shorter set of big sockets as the deep sockets will not give you enough clearance. Home Depot for a 36mm socket. Without these videos none of this would have been possible. Thank you. One bad rocker in the middle of the closest to center cam.
Sir, there are many TH-cam tutorials some of them pretty good, but you set the bar at the highest level ever. We are all blessed that you share your knowledge and skills.
Outstanding!
Thank you.
Wow, thanks for the kind words. Most days it’s hard to start filming and to make more videos, your comment helps
Did this the shortcut way 3 years ago when I was 800 miles from home. Now ticking again 80k miles later, time to do them all.
Such a great video. I'm about to do this project on my 2014 ram. I feel a lot more confident after seeing your video
Thank you for this detailed video. You saved me a lot of money because I was about to take it to a shop. I am not a mechanic but I learned enough from your videos that I felt confident enough to do the job. I did all 24 Rockers and Lifters and replaced both right cam shafts. Thanks to your video that explains when to replace the cams. The special tools didn’t work but I made due. I did it in two days had to wait for the 2nd cam shaft to be ordered. We got it done. She’s running just fine. I can’t thank you enough
Awesome! Glad you were able to knock it out by using this video. Appreciate the comment
Why didn’t the special tools work?
Thank you so much for your help, I couldn’t of got it done without you.
I have a '11 GC with the 3.6 and you sir have saved me thousands of dollars over the years. I always do my own maintenance/repairs and you've made them effortless! THANK YOU!!! 🙏
Top shelf video, mate. Thank you for putting this together. Extremely helpful and clarifying. 👍❤️🔧
Thank you very much. The feedback is very important and appreciated
Man. Thank you for making this video. I just finished up replacing the rockers on my T&C - made notes on your video and it was a snap. Appreciate the 3.6L dipstick video too! -Derek
Dave, as always, your video tutorials are more than awesome! Thank you very much. Happy healthy holiday season and new year to you and yours. 🙏
Awesome instruction. Currently working on one of these.
Thank you so much for making this video and covering so much information and specs. . It helped immensely while replacing my lifters and rockers on my 2014 3.6l v6 Durango. Can’t thank you enough!
Always happy to help!
Hey bro, what were parts you needed to complete the job and how long did it take?
Wow ' i wish i was close to you so you can fixed my 300s i been waiting for the dealership for 3 weeks now stop stop my ticking sounds they told me that it was fixed but when i took it home i could still hear the ticking so today i had to take it back to the dealership to actually fix it right im thinking about taking the video and showing them how you supposed to get it done. Thanks again for sharing 😊 Awesome job!
Wow. 3 minutes in and I gotta say, I love you, you're amazing, hands down the best mechanic I have ever seen on TH-cam thus far. Thank you so much for sharing 🙌👏👍
Glad to see that people are liking these videos!
The very best video on this subject. Thank you.
wow, the best video I ever see of a car mechanic,I'm a mechanic too, that is why I have so much respect for your work, you have a new suscriber
I’ve got to give a HUGE shoutout to you, David!
I felt like you were there with me though this entire rebuild. Really great video series and keep up your good work!
Well... these past three days have been nerve racking and tedious to say the least but, I managed to rebuild the top end of our cars engine. The main symptom was a ticking or tapping noise. This was caused by the rocker arms going bad and destroying one camshaft. The list of parts replaced are...
Right exhaust camshaft (the most difficult to access and most expensive)
24- Rocker Arms (Melling brand)
24- Lifters (Mopar)
NGK Iridium spark plugs
MSD Coils
8 hole fuel injectors
Lower air intake (upgraded PUG version)
All new gaskets and seals
Thermostat
PCV Valve
Oil change
I’m tired... think I’ll go eat tacos and rest now.
wow what was this on a jeep? i have a 15 cherokee that has that tap bad
@@Nick912OK 2016 Town and Country
great job. good stuff. if you mentioned the huge socket size on the phazer I didn't catch that. it's an additional purchase for most people who want to get one before they even begin the process.
Good morning sir, just wanted to congratulate you on your videos. I just did the cam repairs on my jeep wrangler. The details in you videos are awesome. That right side valve cover kicked my butt. And I'm a seasoned mechanic. Keep up the good work. I gotta work on the transmission on my Dakota next, replacing the shift solenoid, do you have a video for that?
David instills confidence for any mechanic to do the job 💯 accurately.
This is a great video: sure beats the book😊
Great work David
Many thanks
I appreciate everything he is doing!
It is entirely a waste of talent and commitment focused on piss poor built junk
Let’s hope all appreciate this man’s information
Thank you for doing these videos. They have been very helpful with diagnosing and servicing my 3.6L. The videos looks professionally done.
I love your amazing enunciation and description of what you are doing.
It’s all in the editing.....all I do is mess my words up while filming lol.
@@MotorCityMechanic Great Editing then lol
David thanks for info. You very detailed the first viedo that explained in very detail.
Just did this job and I'm glad I took MotorCity Mechanic's advice and to avoid the short cuts, the right way didn't add that much more time and thee tools can be had off Amazon for $15, shipped. One thing to note: on the back (firewall side) of each cam, there are silver grease like stripes all around the back of the cams, careful you don't wipe them off or smear them, this is for the camshaft position sensors that are mounted to the top of the valve covers.
Also, replace all rockers and lifters on both the passenger side and drivers side. I almost didn't replace the drivers side since I did not detect any sound coming from it, just the passenger side. After pulling all the rockers from the drivers side, one rocker bearing had a very slight "wiggle", it was on it's way out. Replace all the lifters as well, when I pulled all the lifters, one of them fell apart as I removed it, it was a lifter under one of the bad rockers and it looked good just sitting in place.
Dude your the man, best instructional video I've ever seen
Really great video. Thank you so much for your help. I got the job done without issue.
Excellent video! No hemming and hawing. Kept at a good pace. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks! Glad to see people enjoying
You are the Best of the best for sure. Great teacher.
Awesome tutorial.....! There are some great mechanics online but you cover all that needs to be covered and with clarity. No bs...just good instruction. Good job my friend.
Thanks Robert. It’s always cool to hear back about the videos abs how they help, thanks for taking the time to do that.
@@MotorCityMechanic
How long can you drive on a bad rockerarm before it messes up the cam lobes? 3.6 penastar?
Hey Dave I really like your videos they are very helpful
Awesome video. You are an excellent instructor.
I appreciate the feedback and kind words. Make sure to subscribe
Very helpful video, I know I can do this repair now, thank you!
Your video is AMAZING! Very detailed and informative, THANKS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi David. Thanks a lot for this tutorial and all your videos. I've never seen videos with such a high level of technical knowledge and pedagogy. You're the best dude! Carry on!
Just a little challenge I faced when disassembling cylinder head covers on my 2016 Wrangler JK : camshaft sensors (which are not part of the engine you used in the video) should be removed before taking off cylinder head covers. No toque specs seems to be given by Mopar for reinstalling those sensors (I put 10NM as they're M8 bolts)
Your videos are outstanding. Awesome work.
You are soo amazing thank you so much!! I have a big question! Why do you do these videos so great? Like so in depth and just such a great in detail easy to understand explanation . I wasn’t sure if you got paid to make these videos or if this is just who you are giving great quality content and a helpful guide to the mechanics at home or even some in the shop!🙏 We Appreciate You
About to do this job. After many videos...this is the one that will be in my toolbox. Will update once it is done and I turn the key. (Removing the batter box and all the trim is the scariest part about this job) Lots of colored e-tape, paint markers, and a note pad.
Yeah the Jeep Wrangler has more steps for sure with that large battery box. Once it’s out it gives you sooooo much room. Thanks for the kind words and for watching
@@MotorCityMechanic It's finally out...I dread putting it back in...but not as much as that PCV valve. There is a line from the EVAP draped right over it that I know for sure I better not break. Got everything stripped down to the valve covers. Taking them off tomorrow once I get the PCV off...looking at my Engine now...I sure hope my notes are enough to guide me back to reassembly. I am confident.
You sir, are the working man’s hero.
For anyone attempting this, also pay special attention to the tone wheels on the right side of each of the camshafts. Simply touching the wheels with a magnetic part grabber or parts tray, can wreck a perfectly good camshaft. Hard lesson learned however these instructions are spot on!
Yeah any thing VVT related or tone wheel related doesn’t like magnets.
So glad I stumbled on to your your channel. Nicely done man
Know that you have found the channel, make sure to subscribe and check out the other videos
Doing this job right now . Thank you !
Thanks for yr garage logic on fixing dodge chrysler jeep vehicles, giving the poor man confidence to keeping his vehicle on the road... bought tools on Amazon through yr link... keep it up motor city
Awesome comment! Glad that the videos are helping people. Appreciate the support
Is a nightmare, on jeeps passenger side, I had to removed the whole battery tray, the easy way is to removed the whole cams and locked the tensioner, !! Nice info video!!
Did a fine job explaining everything David but I don't know what size socket to use on the camshaft to loosen it
Thank you for everything you explain on this video it's very clear and simple the way you explained