To be honest i kinda agree with him path is too strong if you can use his abilities properly puts advantage in both fighting and rotating and i really love playing him
50% reduce dam zip allows u to rotate for free. Even pro teams basically dont shoot teams on zip. Scanning carepacks. Using scans give ult cd. Ur the most mobile character for edge play. Ult gives your team verticality aswell. And on top of that pathy q is insane as long as u can use it right. Path isnt op cause his abilities alone is broken or unfair. But because if u know how to use him you can put yourself and ur team in such advantageous positions
Rampart will always be underrated. The amount of buffs she’s gotten over the seasons. She’s good for doors, good to make her own cover, she does more damage behind walls and can use her ult quickly too
I completely agree. She is so easy to solo queue with because the walls can create multiple 1v1s during a clutch. So hard to master though and there's small little things that you just have to learn by playing her
8k kill mirage main here. I agree, this season I have switched my main to rampart as Mirages abilities are now utterly useless. Its very frustrating as it wouldn't take much to make him 10X better in one update, they just dont care tho it sucks. Simply remove the glowing affect from his shoulder/arm and let him turn invisible for like 2 seconds and boom, he's back. Also, the new UI is NOT good for mirage, when he pops ult or has a decoy out Mirages health bar should be invisible to enemy players (: Seems really simple to me, I hope they listen.
Lol sub 1k mirage main but this explanation is exactly why we all had to switch for this season. This cuts deeper than someone eating your leftovers in the fridge
Ash is so underrated. Her blue upgrades suck, but she is still versatile with trapping, defensive and offensive situations. Her blue upgrades should be an option to reduce her ultimate cooldown by at least 45%, and the other option for blue should be a speed boost when snaring an enemy.
Her B-tier upgrade choice should completely be based on your comp and how aggressive you’re playing I’m a masters ash main, I select Minute to Live if I’m playing an aggressive comp and/or have a recon character I select murder machine if we have no recon character or are playing a control/lockdown comp
Ballistic is honestly kind of a sleeper. With other characters working with him to get that recon, he can almost guarantee winning a 3v3 teamfight with his ultimate, and certainly a 1v1 if he's aggressive and opens first with his smart pistol. The team utility that he brings is a lot less obvious but none the less impactful.
I think the problem with his abilities is it’s all a bunch of nearly always held passives, he doesn’t have a black hole or nuclear bomb he can throw out of his back pocket he’s been waiting to recharge, and saving for the final ring to decimate the other players, instead it’s a very long like 30+ second ultimate that gives you and your team a bunch of little buffs that are very low risk mid reward. I’d say his tactical is good in 1v1s but many things can go wrong like the enemy can immediately play more defensively and wait out their overheat… even though I think his tactical is his best feature. Having another gun is nice, and the evo sling upgrade is a MUST HAVE. So I would personally put him at the bottom of B tier because he can do pubs pretty well but in a ranked or tournament it’s a more campy environment everyone tends to pick the legends with very strong abilities and long cool downs they can save for the endgame rather than the ones with very short cooldowns but not very strong abilities you can use often. I don’t think they should change his passive sling weapon very much at all but I think they should nerf his tactical cooldown and add like 10-15 more seconds BUT make it so that you can aim your smart bullet so that the longer you hold it down the bullet velocity will increase and you can start to lock on to more enemies so that if you catch a team in the open you can flank them with a overheat for all three enemies. The whistler will richochet between the enemies. For his ultimate I think they should change it so as soon as you pop it, the pulse of energy will automatically reload all of you and your teams weapons, and they shorten the animation to the start of the ultimate so you could be spraying your spitfire and then instantaneously get a full reload, and I also think that pulse should also very slightly slow any close range enemies armed movement speed it hits as well as slow their reload speed, also when you get a down during the ultimate it should create another pulse that reloads your weapons and disorients enemies. They could nerf the time refunded by down as well as make the ultimate only last a base of 20 seconds.
I agree he can actually cook, the weapon upgrades in the sling with his Ult is insane, free thermite charge for the Rampage. Use that on doors and you get knocks for free. And his tactical can lowkey play defense on doors and choke points. He’s like a support-assault hybrid. With the right team he can be deadly
@noahjones6616 I agree with your take except I think his strongest perk is having 3 weapons with one having guaranteed attachments. It opens the possibility to output so much more damage.
also teleporting while knocked takes 2 second and it takes 8 second for the portal to appear after using nexus you can pick up your teammate and throw some granades on nexus or destroy it so they can't come to you.+you get a notification if enemy enters the portal
@@GambasFallacyThat depends on the player. Alter is definitely a very dangerous and insanely strong character. Being able to go through any structure and flank with your team is amazing. Her ultimate doesn’t even need explanation and her passive is good in endgame if you get heaps and stuff for your team
I hate players like you; sitting on the drone while we wrestle the enemy and if we go down (cause crypto didn't help) crypto panics and leave even if the enemy is 1 shot
I love playing crypto so much 😂🫶🏾i feel like he was trying to not give awareness to how good crypto is. Because imagine how the game would be if everyone started playing crypto 💀💀💀
@PrettyVicious crypto Is good to keep 1 player of the squad busy piloting a damn drone watching his t8s die so he can finally make use of the drone to snatch the banners and say "yess I'm useful🤓"
Thank you for actually describing why you ranked them where you did. So many people with less following than you make many tier lists but either don’t explain their rankings or just give horrible explanations. Plz do more W Timmy
Ballistic is very slept on this season. First of all you only need one mozam to have akimbo mozams if you put it in his sling slot and seccond his prec of upgrading his sling gun with shields make them actually usable. His ult will always be good because free gold weapon and holstered movement speed while having a gun is crazy. Mostly though he’s just good because it allows mid players like me to run a sniper since I can’t hit all my shots but with him I can still carry a midrange and close range and a sniper
Bloodhound and Fuse main here. With the new patch notes coming for the second half of the season - they are both B tier. They've killed blood with the short scan time, ult not recharging after knock, upgrades being dogshit and scan not working for bang smokes and caustic gas. The problem with Fuse are just the downgrades for his ULT. Respawn could do so much more for both of them in terms of abilities, skins, upgrades and the legends still being balanced and useful for solo and team play.
2.6k kills rampart main here. I think rampart should be B-tier. After all buffs she got. I mean ultimate buff, controller class buff and lmg buff. Even if u don't play lmg, early use sheila + 25 extra shild with contoller class in zone is so strong. Her walls are so flexibilty too. You can create space to play place where normaly can't at all. Walls are also really strong to block and play around doors. Sometimes help create space to revive your teammate. Aditionally you can super-glide from your own walls which you can put anywhwre you want and need.
I feel like no matter who you ask rn, the tierlist will always somewhat look the same. Theres always the same 5-6 legends on top and the 5-6 same legends bottom tier. In the middle theres some mixture but it doesnt really matter bc they dont see playtime in comp and ranked anyways
You are mostly right, there are some exceptions of course like crypto going up because of the buffs and being used in comp a lot, or seer not being very used generally but being used somewhat consistently in comp, but yeah, all tier lists look kinda the same, in the S tier bangalore is not going down never, the nerfs dont matter, the kit is too strong, revenant neither being more tanky than even gibby, and watsson has been up there like an eternity compared to other control legends barely struggling to get to even tier B.
Ash can use a different passive, since she is ninja related, it might be a weird take, increased damage and distance/throw speed on arc stars. Or like a speed boost when getting closer to enemy teams for limited time, since ninjas are known for speed and stealth And 30% increase in ult distance.
Ash is so underrated. Her tactical is the best tactical in the game imo. It literally just locks someone down and makes them such an easy target. Can be used aggressively, or defensively. Today I threw my snare on a balloon and it stopped an enemy on their way up. Go with the perk for 2 charges and the uptime is so high. I love her ult, too. It's really not that short and is amazing for instantly moving your entire team to a better spot. I mostly use it to get a flank and it has won my team SO many fights just by repositioning behind/to the side of them. If someone is chasing and you ult away, throw your snare where you land and if an enemy follows in your ult they get guaranteed snared for an easy kill.
I don't disagree about Mirage being nerfed and ass, but somehow all my best ranked games are with him... Might just be the fact he's a support character and I can get an invis respawn off and keep the game going
Ash needs a buff tho, longer faster ult, better utility maybe concuss then a snare or something, passive is fine, weaker beacon in the mini map and a tracker to possible nearby teams. Or just a whole rework cuz im coping as one of the three mains, they could prolly make the tact to be more like the electric smoke grenade that would be cool
She should be able to choose the snares to be throwable like now or deployed as mines (2 or 3 with upgrades)if you hold down LB. Like throw them the same way you throw thicks in Titanfall 2
As an alter enjoyer. You are right. But I love her anyway, it’s the dopamine hits whenever I kidnap someone in a room above me on the new map that keeps me running back to her. (For alter buffs make it an automatic/ faster ult activation and increase her tac range to 30 meters so it’s just a point and click instead of the annoying out of range whenever you try to be creative)
As somebody who loves alters tactical for just jumping a team, her ult really does need some changes, it’s best use is to TP somebody who is running out of zone.
Path voice lines are just the best, I can’t play him but it’s so good to have him on my team, lifeline and loba are my personals favs, glad you placed lifeline in S tier
You almost had me yelling at the screen jumping out my seat with the way the vid ended, 2 body shot red with vantage?? That’s insanity, but 2 headshot red with vantage I would also be down to see, a viable legend that’s never gotten enough love IMO.
Big fan bro been watching your videos for a couple years now, I’ve learned a lot from watching you play and it has helped me become a Diamond ranked player.
If ash tach allowed her to briefly block bullets into a a wave dash or arc slash projection she would be quite fun. As her tac could function as her ult or a melee override with extra damage.
Mirage decoys will need health bars, along with combining his og ult with his current ult, activation creates og outward standing circle of 5 decoys while you turn invisible for 4 seconds, invisibly deactivation causes current circle of 6 moving decoys, which also causes the first 5 decoys to move as well.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks alter isn’t very good. Such a mismatched kit with crazy potential, but so hard to use well. Wish they would change the ult entirely.
Idk i find her very good in some maps her vertical tp is kinda op with the scan and the invincibility but still i think she needs a buff to how deep the tp goes and make it less random. The ult is goated when someone is down . But it will take sometime for people to perfect her
I solo queued to Diamond for the first time using Alter. I think her portal is the best offensive ability in the game. It’s kind of situational - only usable around objects/buildings- but in those areas it’s borderline OP in fights. And she’s the best in the game resetting fights with her Ult. Her passive is also a mini Loba Ult that can grab loot for the team. Overall she’s really strong in building fights and the best at resetting fights, outside of that not much going on. Plus she’s really only good on 1 map, E-District. Her potential is massive though, it’ll take a while for players to realize how good she can be.
@@HsquaredYea bro, one point I forgot to mention is her ability to kidnap people. She can literally snatch people from their high ground/ behind cover, which is almost guaranteed knocks. And she’s a beast at surprise attacks with the portal. If you get good at those you can do some crazy work and win a lot of fights
Ash is trash Wraith take is spot on Octane- Only 10 years Olds and meth heads use him, loot goblins Ballistic is slept on, he can be really good but yeah he needs a buff Caustic: my poor boy been done dirty too many times
Timmy, thanks for pointing out the bald wraiths. Like yeah the players are good but when they land alone and Wraith’s abilities can’t help them… they’re just bald
I liked playing Alter when she came out and still really like the porting through walls and ceilings ability but had the same struggles Timmy mentions... but in some changelog they mentioned something that sounded to me as you could now use the portal while holding your knockdown shield up. I never played her since then, so did I misunderstand that or is Timmy not up to date? For me she is the better version of Wraith, depending on the map though.
@@nofaceposeidon I know, that has always been the case, but you either could hold up your knockdown shield OR activate the relocator, which was/is highly annoying as Timmy says in the video, because you are easily thirsted if you don't hold your shield up. But I read something, don't remember what exactly, in later patch notes, that sounded like you can now use another key to activate the portal and thus still hold up your shield at the same time. But nobody is playing her anymore so I never tried that out.
Maybe you should be able to hold the knockdown shield and use the portal. But a team with an alter and a Wattson/Caustic/Catalyst can do nasty, devious things with the alter portal. Plant some nasty traps for the enemy team to take.
@@swagfiltr894 100% maybe the ult could’ve been changed a bit but his tac is definitely worse now or at least much less original. Too many legends have jump tacs with small variations.
Ash is Definitely b tier w the catch multiple enemy’s and extended duration perk. Keep a couple throwables to toss after snaring then ult a flank and spray
I'll say this I misunderstood before I commented that this was for ranked, I can get behind maybe upper B low A only for finding rats but in comp/high level play, he's not even better than blood.
@@CharizardLv95 He is mostly used in comp because of the silence, he has such a high potential and with his passive he has perma scans if you can comunicate well with your team, the problem is that he is very hard to play, in the past you would throw the ability and the other team was done for, but after the nerfs you need to play him in such a way that only advanced players could make him work, or people that have a lot of hours with him, but he is by far better than bloodhound, without the digis or bloodhound ult seeing through smoke that character only has his tactical, and his ult if you have the perk of more scans, but not as useful as seer ult neither.
I know right! I'd rather have no Crypto than a bad crypto who never comes out to touch grass. Either that or a just snatch him right up before anyone else does.
Wraith needs a buff. Remove the blue trail and moving audio cue for for tactical and ultimate. If you could take portals silently she would be so much better.
Honestly, i dont think timmy putting path in S tier is glazing. Path has helped me easily reach Diamond this split even though i dont main him or play him a lot 🙏🗿
Hes not talking about fun... path was hard meta in Dia+ ranked like forever and Octane in high ranked is just troll. Also its like what he said about wraith.
@@fb_sxy5075 I never said anything about fun though. Octane was my main since forever, but I picked up Path to play ranked. I may have stopped playing but I was a Master level player when I did. I actually agree with his opinions on both.
When the Valk Changes comes do you think she'll move up the tier list to possibly A? Plus with the nerfs to fuse and Rev im assuming they'll drop some.
I think Altar is better that people realize but ngl her perks are hot ass. Someone said you can give her all her perks base kit and she still wouldn't be OP. Imo she needs HP scan and Unlimited Ult timer as basekit and give a +5 portal length as a blue perk and +1 Tactical Charge as a Purple Perk.
I think its a perfect list for top level of play but for casuals like me - seer, alter and conduit are my picks for bottom 3. Seer and alter are absolutely useless and conduit tac is so situational you can barely get any use out of it. On the flip side - mirage, ash and rampart are op in casual lower ranks.
U gotta be a low rank if you think seer is useless he counters every legend for a while and his heartbeat scanner is basically a infinite bloodhound scan
@@QwithNoAura yea I am like I said. 0.7% pickrate lowest in game. No one wants to play him. His Q is so easily dodged and they made heartbeat sensor feel painful to use by washing out the colours so you can't really tell where the enemy is. I can hear the enemy within the range the sensor works anyway and feels more reliable to just use my ears. And when you finally do land a Q it scans for all of 1 second. His only useful ability is his ult. He is doo doo.
@@Ajek47 he is no where near the best but he is still really good at moments, I would say his tac just needs a bit of a buff and his ult needs to be a bit better and he would be great!
@@QwithNoAura There's no reason to pick him over bloodhound who can just face a direction and scan everything in it while seer needs to waste time aiming his passive to use his tac and the scan duration is not worth the time and effort to do so. Don't forget bloodhound can see enemy tracks all over the place and he doesn't need to stop and aim to do it. Seer's strengths over blood was seeing healthbars and longer scans as reward for it being harder to use. And now everyone can see healthbars and his scan duration is non existant. They need to make him feel better to use - increase width and length of tac, revert passive colour changes so the blue and orange are bold and distinct from each other and add ult throw range perk back into base kit. Or they can leave him as the least played legend in the game.
Gibby is on the verge of being really good rn. I feel that his bubble is a good counter to mozams like NC shield. Ive actually tried playing him, and I can see the potential against mozams with like a pk/mastiff. I just dont wana play mozam cringe
I personally would really like to see some wraith and path buffs, I think both are very underwhelming. Paths ult sucks, tactical good for pushing or just rotation definitely not for running from a fight, passive good. Wraith good tactical not the best, bad ult, great passive
Seers great using his alt for buildings 🏢 and rockey spaces outside with high amounts of boulders around him in final circle 🔴 hes great too if you have hight as well his alt can provide a movement tomb like the old rev alt other than that his passive is decent enough for fast movement teammates to have that lil push if enemy players are shielding up from distance the only thing I think he should have is a small movement buff afterwards..but still a great placement for seer 💯
I wish wraith was good. Her abilities are all about repositioning and moving her team around, but they just needed her into the ground. Her tac is the only thing good about her anymore, but even that you try to activate and just get fried. You have to use it behind cover which in my opinion makes it basically useless lmfao. It’s supposed to be a get out of jail free card. Might I add like the new characters ultimate, but that ult you have to look at it to activate, and you need to sit and wait to get teleported. They just don’t like the instant teleports. It’s so dumb.
I'm very happy for the credit given to Crypto now It's true it's not as cinematic or exciting as other characters but with an organized team you can keep up the pace and pull off very nice and fun tactics
What average Wraith Timmy finds, all my Wraith are bald ones who drop in 2 minutes and instadisconnects Also, you should have waited for the next patch, Revenant will get nerfed and Valk will be insane
Been playing octane since day one. Took a year break from the game. AND HE MIGHT BE C TIER BUT MEXICAN MAN CAN GO FAST SO IMMA KEEP PLAYING OCTANE AND MIRAGE
Mirage is at least B tier in my opinion yea the health bar is a L for sure but the amount of people Ive encountered still be lost af lol I’m only D1 but yeah …
Vantage is the most selfish character. I think wraith’s portal is more useful. Only if the vantage user is good does vantage matter. If the user sucks vantage doesn’t do much for the team. I’ve had so many bad experiences dealing with useless vantage
Everyone saying mirage is broken and really bad because of the health bars is just a bad mirage player. He's still good if you actually know how to play him
Alter buff- Holding x automatically gives purple knock and simultaneously portals. Also.......enemy taking portal only travels 50% of the distance of portal and is dropped off with a brief highlight of the portal path similar to the wraith ghost trail and downed enemy is briefly pinged. Thoughts? @iitztimmy
What other tier lists would you guys like to see?
Weapons and then maps perhaps👀
Frag out tier list
Red Bull flavors
Doing this more often like every season or 2 please
I agree @@corvax8644
Timmy putting path s tier doesn’t sound bias what so ever lol
To be honest i kinda agree with him path is too strong if you can use his abilities properly puts advantage in both fighting and rotating and i really love playing him
Path is S tier, not even bias
Definitely the most fun character to play. Reduced damage Zipline is OP for end game rotates
His perks just Make his kit even more dangerous
50% reduce dam zip allows u to rotate for free. Even pro teams basically dont shoot teams on zip.
Scanning carepacks. Using scans give ult cd. Ur the most mobile character for edge play.
Ult gives your team verticality aswell. And on top of that pathy q is insane as long as u can use it right.
Path isnt op cause his abilities alone is broken or unfair. But because if u know how to use him you can put yourself and ur team in such advantageous positions
Rampart will always be underrated. The amount of buffs she’s gotten over the seasons. She’s good for doors, good to make her own cover, she does more damage behind walls and can use her ult quickly too
She's hard to master. if you invest time and play her she really shines. same to every legend.
still a throw pick
Rampart simps will always be delusional 😂
I completely agree. She is so easy to solo queue with because the walls can create multiple 1v1s during a clutch. So hard to master though and there's small little things that you just have to learn by playing her
@@alexmckinney6942Maggie and or fuse completely ruin rampart in every way the only thing good about her is her gun
8k kill mirage main here. I agree, this season I have switched my main to rampart as Mirages abilities are now utterly useless. Its very frustrating as it wouldn't take much to make him 10X better in one update, they just dont care tho it sucks. Simply remove the glowing affect from his shoulder/arm and let him turn invisible for like 2 seconds and boom, he's back. Also, the new UI is NOT good for mirage, when he pops ult or has a decoy out Mirages health bar should be invisible to enemy players (: Seems really simple to me, I hope they listen.
2k kill mirage main here, i feel your pain😭
10k mirage main here. Agreed but beating enemies while we’re at a disadvantage just shows how good we are 😉
Lol sub 1k mirage main but this explanation is exactly why we all had to switch for this season. This cuts deeper than someone eating your leftovers in the fridge
150k mirage here,hes the best legend in the game and yall are shit,get better
Same bro ..14 k on Mirage but this season he sucks
Ash is so underrated. Her blue upgrades suck, but she is still versatile with trapping, defensive and offensive situations. Her blue upgrades should be an option to reduce her ultimate cooldown by at least 45%, and the other option for blue should be a speed boost when snaring an enemy.
Her B-tier upgrade choice should completely be based on your comp and how aggressive you’re playing
I’m a masters ash main, I select Minute to Live if I’m playing an aggressive comp and/or have a recon character
I select murder machine if we have no recon character or are playing a control/lockdown comp
Ballistic is honestly kind of a sleeper. With other characters working with him to get that recon, he can almost guarantee winning a 3v3 teamfight with his ultimate, and certainly a 1v1 if he's aggressive and opens first with his smart pistol. The team utility that he brings is a lot less obvious but none the less impactful.
I think the problem with his abilities is it’s all a bunch of nearly always held passives, he doesn’t have a black hole or nuclear bomb he can throw out of his back pocket he’s been waiting to recharge, and saving for the final ring to decimate the other players, instead it’s a very long like 30+ second ultimate that gives you and your team a bunch of little buffs that are very low risk mid reward. I’d say his tactical is good in 1v1s but many things can go wrong like the enemy can immediately play more defensively and wait out their overheat… even though I think his tactical is his best feature. Having another gun is nice, and the evo sling upgrade is a MUST HAVE. So I would personally put him at the bottom of B tier because he can do pubs pretty well but in a ranked or tournament it’s a more campy environment everyone tends to pick the legends with very strong abilities and long cool downs they can save for the endgame rather than the ones with very short cooldowns but not very strong abilities you can use often. I don’t think they should change his passive sling weapon very much at all but I think they should nerf his tactical cooldown and add like 10-15 more seconds BUT make it so that you can aim your smart bullet so that the longer you hold it down the bullet velocity will increase and you can start to lock on to more enemies so that if you catch a team in the open you can flank them with a overheat for all three enemies. The whistler will richochet between the enemies. For his ultimate I think they should change it so as soon as you pop it, the pulse of energy will automatically reload all of you and your teams weapons, and they shorten the animation to the start of the ultimate so you could be spraying your spitfire and then instantaneously get a full reload, and I also think that pulse should also very slightly slow any close range enemies armed movement speed it hits as well as slow their reload speed, also when you get a down during the ultimate it should create another pulse that reloads your weapons and disorients enemies. They could nerf the time refunded by down as well as make the ultimate only last a base of 20 seconds.
I agree he can actually cook, the weapon upgrades in the sling with his Ult is insane, free thermite charge for the Rampage. Use that on doors and you get knocks for free. And his tactical can lowkey play defense on doors and choke points. He’s like a support-assault hybrid. With the right team he can be deadly
@noahjones6616 I agree with your take except I think his strongest perk is having 3 weapons with one having guaranteed attachments. It opens the possibility to output so much more damage.
the fact that wraith has the same abilities same everything since the release is crazy
alter nexus portal team reset in hard fight is goated and void portals can be super usefull if you're creative enought imo A or B tier
also teleporting while knocked takes 2 second and it takes 8 second for the portal to appear after using nexus you can pick up your teammate and throw some granades on nexus or destroy it so they can't come to you.+you get a notification if enemy enters the portal
@@GambasFallacy Im just interested. What rank are you?
@@GambasFallacyThat depends on the player. Alter is definitely a very dangerous and insanely strong character. Being able to go through any structure and flank with your team is amazing. Her ultimate doesn’t even need explanation and her passive is good in endgame if you get heaps and stuff for your team
She's so easy to fight against though, If you get knocked and they use that portal you just gave the team a free chance to f up your entire team.
As a crypto main, I don't find him boring, since I love empowering my team mates with the ability of wall hacks
Bro I love using crypto and being chased by like 50 dudes then jumping off a building then going invisible it's so funny 😂
I hate players like you; sitting on the drone while we wrestle the enemy and if we go down (cause crypto didn't help) crypto panics and leave even if the enemy is 1 shot
I love playing crypto so much 😂🫶🏾i feel like he was trying to not give awareness to how good crypto is. Because imagine how the game would be if everyone started playing crypto 💀💀💀
@PrettyVicious crypto Is good to keep 1 player of the squad busy piloting a damn drone watching his t8s die so he can finally make use of the drone to snatch the banners and say "yess I'm useful🤓"
@@beastmodejelly8654 I’m sorry you had a bad crypto teammate experience while playing Apex Legends, but go heal and get over it.
Thank you for actually describing why you ranked them where you did. So many people with less following than you make many tier lists but either don’t explain their rankings or just give horrible explanations. Plz do more W Timmy
“This character’s trash. I don’t need to say anything more than that”
Yes you do!!!
The glaze for Pathfinder is crazy😭
If you’re a good path player, path is one of the best characters for ranked.
glistening with glaze
@@OrangeSoda1432 I wasn’t saying he isn’t good (I’m a path main) but Timmy dosent need to make a whole ass tier for him 😭
Path is crazy annoying to beat especially when it's the right player.
Ballistic is very slept on this season. First of all you only need one mozam to have akimbo mozams if you put it in his sling slot and seccond his prec of upgrading his sling gun with shields make them actually usable. His ult will always be good because free gold weapon and holstered movement speed while having a gun is crazy. Mostly though he’s just good because it allows mid players like me to run a sniper since I can’t hit all my shots but with him I can still carry a midrange and close range and a sniper
Moreover, I tested it, and at purple shields guns in the sling get their hop-ups. So, lmgs get the shield and akimbos get free hammerpoints.
Bloodhound and Fuse main here. With the new patch notes coming for the second half of the season - they are both B tier. They've killed blood with the short scan time, ult not recharging after knock, upgrades being dogshit and scan not working for bang smokes and caustic gas. The problem with Fuse are just the downgrades for his ULT. Respawn could do so much more for both of them in terms of abilities, skins, upgrades and the legends still being balanced and useful for solo and team play.
2.6k kills rampart main here. I think rampart should be B-tier. After all buffs she got. I mean ultimate buff, controller class buff and lmg buff. Even if u don't play lmg, early use sheila + 25 extra shild with contoller class in zone is so strong.
Her walls are so flexibilty too. You can create space to play place where normaly can't at all. Walls are also really strong to block and play around doors. Sometimes help create space to revive your teammate. Aditionally you can super-glide from your own walls which you can put anywhwre you want and need.
I feel like no matter who you ask rn, the tierlist will always somewhat look the same. Theres always the same 5-6 legends on top and the 5-6 same legends bottom tier. In the middle theres some mixture but it doesnt really matter bc they dont see playtime in comp and ranked anyways
You are mostly right, there are some exceptions of course like crypto going up because of the buffs and being used in comp a lot, or seer not being very used generally but being used somewhat consistently in comp, but yeah, all tier lists look kinda the same, in the S tier bangalore is not going down never, the nerfs dont matter, the kit is too strong, revenant neither being more tanky than even gibby, and watsson has been up there like an eternity compared to other control legends barely struggling to get to even tier B.
Nah rampart bein d tier when everytime I get a rampart on my team I’m top 5 is wild.
Ash can use a different passive, since she is ninja related, it might be a weird take, increased damage and distance/throw speed on arc stars. Or like a speed boost when getting closer to enemy teams for limited time, since ninjas are known for speed and stealth
And 30% increase in ult distance.
i think Caustics ranking really depends on your teams playstyle, for agressive teams he's not that great but for defending and staying alive hes great
mirage " im i getting Bam-boozed ?"
Ash is so underrated. Her tactical is the best tactical in the game imo. It literally just locks someone down and makes them such an easy target. Can be used aggressively, or defensively. Today I threw my snare on a balloon and it stopped an enemy on their way up. Go with the perk for 2 charges and the uptime is so high. I love her ult, too. It's really not that short and is amazing for instantly moving your entire team to a better spot. I mostly use it to get a flank and it has won my team SO many fights just by repositioning behind/to the side of them. If someone is chasing and you ult away, throw your snare where you land and if an enemy follows in your ult they get guaranteed snared for an easy kill.
I don't disagree about Mirage being nerfed and ass, but somehow all my best ranked games are with him... Might just be the fact he's a support character and I can get an invis respawn off and keep the game going
Same, regardless of how weak he is I still find myself not getting much bad experiences using him
This include upcoming buffs (Valk) and nerfs (Revenant)?
This is before Tuesday's patch so nope but maybe I'll do an updated version sometime if people enjoy this style of content
@@iiTzTimmy Love this style of content.
@@iiTzTimmy try playing alter. U scared 😂
@@iiTzTimmy I really enjoy your content I hope you make another new patch tierlist
11:40 Bro basically called octane players adderall popping cheaters with configs 😂💀
Ash needs a buff tho, longer faster ult, better utility maybe concuss then a snare or something, passive is fine, weaker beacon in the mini map and a tracker to possible nearby teams. Or just a whole rework cuz im coping as one of the three mains, they could prolly make the tact to be more like the electric smoke grenade that would be cool
Yeah I agree. I think her snare is sleeper good, but is on the edge of being REALLY annoying to fight against.
her blue perks suck.
@@steamboatWilliam8 frrr
She should be able to choose the snares to be throwable like now or deployed as mines (2 or 3 with upgrades)if you hold down LB.
Like throw them the same way you throw thicks in Titanfall 2
@@beastmodejelly8654 that would be really nice. it would go really well with her kit using it for defense or when a team pushes you in a building.
As an alter enjoyer. You are right. But I love her anyway, it’s the dopamine hits whenever I kidnap someone in a room above me on the new map that keeps me running back to her. (For alter buffs make it an automatic/ faster ult activation and increase her tac range to 30 meters so it’s just a point and click instead of the annoying out of range whenever you try to be creative)
As a crypto main I am relived that he didn’t call him bad
As somebody who loves alters tactical for just jumping a team, her ult really does need some changes, it’s best use is to TP somebody who is running out of zone.
Path voice lines are just the best, I can’t play him but it’s so good to have him on my team, lifeline and loba are my personals favs, glad you placed lifeline in S tier
When he went into wraith it felt like he was talking to one of his teammates
All us rev mains that have used him since season 4 getting called meta users now 😔
You got me into playing pathfinder when i first started playing and i love your content
You almost had me yelling at the screen jumping out my seat with the way the vid ended, 2 body shot red with vantage?? That’s insanity, but 2 headshot red with vantage I would also be down to see, a viable legend that’s never gotten enough love IMO.
Big fan bro been watching your videos for a couple years now, I’ve learned a lot from watching you play and it has helped me become a Diamond ranked player.
If ash tach allowed her to briefly block bullets into a a wave dash or arc slash projection she would be quite fun. As her tac could function as her ult or a melee override with extra damage.
Mirage decoys will need health bars, along with combining his og ult with his current ult, activation creates og outward standing circle of 5 decoys while you turn invisible for 4 seconds, invisibly deactivation causes current circle of 6 moving decoys, which also causes the first 5 decoys to move as well.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks alter isn’t very good. Such a mismatched kit with crazy potential, but so hard to use well. Wish they would change the ult entirely.
Idk i find her very good in some maps her vertical tp is kinda op with the scan and the invincibility but still i think she needs a buff to how deep the tp goes and make it less random. The ult is goated when someone is down . But it will take sometime for people to perfect her
I solo queued to Diamond for the first time using Alter. I think her portal is the best offensive ability in the game. It’s kind of situational - only usable around objects/buildings- but in those areas it’s borderline OP in fights. And she’s the best in the game resetting fights with her Ult. Her passive is also a mini Loba Ult that can grab loot for the team.
Overall she’s really strong in building fights and the best at resetting fights, outside of that not much going on. Plus she’s really only good on 1 map, E-District. Her potential is massive though, it’ll take a while for players to realize how good she can be.
@@TheErolind I’ll try her out more and try to be more aggressive. Thanks for the input
@@HsquaredYea bro, one point I forgot to mention is her ability to kidnap people. She can literally snatch people from their high ground/ behind cover, which is almost guaranteed knocks. And she’s a beast at surprise attacks with the portal. If you get good at those you can do some crazy work and win a lot of fights
I'm started to use her today a lot
Ash is trash
Wraith take is spot on
Octane- Only 10 years Olds and meth heads use him, loot goblins
Ballistic is slept on, he can be really good but yeah he needs a buff
Caustic: my poor boy been done dirty too many times
5k kill crypto main. we've come a long way :,)
Timmy, thanks for pointing out the bald wraiths. Like yeah the players are good but when they land alone and Wraith’s abilities can’t help them… they’re just bald
as someone who went from wraith to alter, i can confirm i did it because i like dropping enemies to us, and using her ult
I liked playing Alter when she came out and still really like the porting through walls and ceilings ability but had the same struggles Timmy mentions... but in some changelog they mentioned something that sounded to me as you could now use the portal while holding your knockdown shield up. I never played her since then, so did I misunderstand that or is Timmy not up to date? For me she is the better version of Wraith, depending on the map though.
@@at1st_dnb you can use her ultimate relocater thing while downed
@@nofaceposeidon I know, that has always been the case, but you either could hold up your knockdown shield OR activate the relocator, which was/is highly annoying as Timmy says in the video, because you are easily thirsted if you don't hold your shield up. But I read something, don't remember what exactly, in later patch notes, that sounded like you can now use another key to activate the portal and thus still hold up your shield at the same time. But nobody is playing her anymore so I never tried that out.
nothing hurts worse than dying to a maggie strafing at the speed of light with 2 akimbo hammerpoints and aim assist
As a 4k wattson player I have switched my main to path because of the new map and with the high grounds you just need him for his abilities for sure.
Feel bang have a smoke inhancement that can show a cloked crypto 😂💯 idk if blood hound can do that tbh 🤔
watty and crypto is next to each other in tier list at the top
This is hella fresh.
Maybe you should be able to hold the knockdown shield and use the portal. But a team with an alter and a Wattson/Caustic/Catalyst can do nasty, devious things with the alter portal. Plant some nasty traps for the enemy team to take.
Crypto is so fun to play - def NOT boring - just saying
maggie not in Stier is crazy work, bro really doesnt want her to get nerfed
I’ve been a rev main since season 4, I miss his old ability’s tbh
Specifically the silence, so much expression with the balls
@@swagfiltr894 100% maybe the ult could’ve been changed a bit but his tac is definitely worse now or at least much less original. Too many legends have jump tacs with small variations.
Ash is Definitely b tier w the catch multiple enemy’s and extended duration perk. Keep a couple throwables to toss after snaring then ult a flank and spray
Hey Timmy, love from Canada also would love love love to see a load out tier list! from your experience and personal opinion.
Seer in A tier is just wrong lol
He can See through walls
I'll say this I misunderstood before I commented that this was for ranked, I can get behind maybe upper B low A only for finding rats but in comp/high level play, he's not even better than blood.
Finally someone talking about seer actually being good such a freaking sleeper it’s not even funny
@@CharizardLv95 He is mostly used in comp because of the silence, he has such a high potential and with his passive he has perma scans if you can comunicate well with your team, the problem is that he is very hard to play, in the past you would throw the ability and the other team was done for, but after the nerfs you need to play him in such a way that only advanced players could make him work, or people that have a lot of hours with him, but he is by far better than bloodhound, without the digis or bloodhound ult seeing through smoke that character only has his tactical, and his ult if you have the perk of more scans, but not as useful as seer ult neither.
Ash could be really good with crypto and ult accels. After crypto ult she can ult in and snare. So much CC it’s basically free rp
Crypto is S tier if you know how to play him. The issue is there are very few people that know how to.
I know right! I'd rather have no Crypto than a bad crypto who never comes out to touch grass. Either that or a just snatch him right up before anyone else does.
A tier is a good evaluation for Maggie before the buff. I think she's better than crypto and watts
Wraith needs a buff. Remove the blue trail and moving audio cue for for tactical and ultimate. If you could take portals silently she would be so much better.
Let’s gooo crypto in S tier
Your assessment for wraith was spot on and me laugh
Honestly, i dont think timmy putting path in S tier is glazing.
Path has helped me easily reach Diamond this split even though i dont main him or play him a lot 🙏🗿
Wraith deserves B. She is useful when playing with team. A good players utilize her kit correctly also help teammates with her kit
My two mains are Path and Octane so the difference in opinions is hilarious. It's extra funny because Timmy himself is an Octane monster.
Hes not talking about fun... path was hard meta in Dia+ ranked like forever and Octane in high ranked is just troll. Also its like what he said about wraith.
@@fb_sxy5075 I never said anything about fun though. Octane was my main since forever, but I picked up Path to play ranked. I may have stopped playing but I was a Master level player when I did. I actually agree with his opinions on both.
When the Valk Changes comes do you think she'll move up the tier list to possibly A? Plus with the nerfs to fuse and Rev im assuming they'll drop some.
I think Altar is better that people realize but ngl her perks are hot ass. Someone said you can give her all her perks base kit and she still wouldn't be OP.
Imo she needs HP scan and Unlimited Ult timer as basekit and give a +5 portal length as a blue perk and +1 Tactical Charge as a Purple Perk.
As a path main I can agree with this
I don’t think caustic is better than rampart now with her buff having her Sheila almost right at drop is clutch
I think its a perfect list for top level of play but for casuals like me - seer, alter and conduit are my picks for bottom 3. Seer and alter are absolutely useless and conduit tac is so situational you can barely get any use out of it. On the flip side - mirage, ash and rampart are op in casual lower ranks.
U gotta be a low rank if you think seer is useless he counters every legend for a while and his heartbeat scanner is basically a infinite bloodhound scan
@@QwithNoAura yea I am like I said. 0.7% pickrate lowest in game. No one wants to play him. His Q is so easily dodged and they made heartbeat sensor feel painful to use by washing out the colours so you can't really tell where the enemy is. I can hear the enemy within the range the sensor works anyway and feels more reliable to just use my ears. And when you finally do land a Q it scans for all of 1 second. His only useful ability is his ult. He is doo doo.
@@Ajek47 he is no where near the best but he is still really good at moments, I would say his tac just needs a bit of a buff and his ult needs to be a bit better and he would be great!
@@QwithNoAura There's no reason to pick him over bloodhound who can just face a direction and scan everything in it while seer needs to waste time aiming his passive to use his tac and the scan duration is not worth the time and effort to do so. Don't forget bloodhound can see enemy tracks all over the place and he doesn't need to stop and aim to do it. Seer's strengths over blood was seeing healthbars and longer scans as reward for it being harder to use. And now everyone can see healthbars and his scan duration is non existant. They need to make him feel better to use - increase width and length of tac, revert passive colour changes so the blue and orange are bold and distinct from each other and add ult throw range perk back into base kit. Or they can leave him as the least played legend in the game.
Gibby is on the verge of being really good rn. I feel that his bubble is a good counter to mozams like NC shield. Ive actually tried playing him, and I can see the potential against mozams with like a pk/mastiff. I just dont wana play mozam cringe
mozams are going in care package next patch in a few days.
@@fishoutofwater3752 cite ur sources.
@@THlSGUY-The patch notes
@@THlSGUY- It says on the patch notes on ea that mozams will be part of the gold weapons rotation.
@fishoutofwater3752 it's still floor loot too so that's not really a change
crypto
-can chill
I am sold.
RAMPART IN C? Nah i would put in S cuz the machine gun “sheila” is the strongest ult i have ever been used and got 11k kills on
I personally would really like to see some wraith and path buffs, I think both are very underwhelming. Paths ult sucks, tactical good for pushing or just rotation definitely not for running from a fight, passive good. Wraith good tactical not the best, bad ult, great passive
Vantage already had that buff. It was nerfed week one.
i agree lets make vantage be able to 2 tap red armors but im begging you make her crippled
Tier list can be named "Path to Ass"
Seers great using his alt for buildings 🏢 and rockey spaces outside with high amounts of boulders around him in final circle 🔴 hes great too if you have hight as well his alt can provide a movement tomb like the old rev alt other than that his passive is decent enough for fast movement teammates to have that lil push if enemy players are shielding up from distance the only thing I think he should have is a small movement buff afterwards..but still a great placement for seer 💯
They don’t want a repeat of Octane/Rev totem ape with Alter.
I wish wraith was good. Her abilities are all about repositioning and moving her team around, but they just needed her into the ground. Her tac is the only thing good about her anymore, but even that you try to activate and just get fried. You have to use it behind cover which in my opinion makes it basically useless lmfao. It’s supposed to be a get out of jail free card. Might I add like the new characters ultimate, but that ult you have to look at it to activate, and you need to sit and wait to get teleported. They just don’t like the instant teleports. It’s so dumb.
octane should get his pad during revtane meta now that rev doesn't have totem.
GOATED list for sure.
Tbh I feel like…wraiths past nerfs could almost be reversed and it would be balanced
Ballistic in season 23 is S tier, he is so broken now🔥🔥
as a pathfinder main i don't see how this is biased at all I agree👍
what about the new valk buffs with her being able to see through walls though...and all the rev nerfs
I'm very happy for the credit given to Crypto now
It's true it's not as cinematic or exciting as other characters but with an organized team you can keep up the pace and pull off very nice and fun tactics
15 k Valk player. She is going to be top tier soon like she was so many seasons ago
Lemonhead makes octane look like a monster
What average Wraith Timmy finds, all my Wraith are bald ones who drop in 2 minutes and instadisconnects
Also, you should have waited for the next patch, Revenant will get nerfed and Valk will be insane
i wonder how good valk will be with all the buffs coming?
Been playing octane since day one. Took a year break from the game. AND HE MIGHT BE C TIER BUT MEXICAN MAN CAN GO FAST SO IMMA KEEP PLAYING OCTANE AND MIRAGE
mirage in ass tier and crypto in s tier is wild
They need to buff Mirage! He's been the same since he was introduced. Even Revenant got a glow up one time
Mirage is at least B tier in my opinion yea the health bar is a L for sure but the amount of people Ive encountered still be lost af lol I’m only D1 but yeah …
24:35, LOL I think I might just be a personality type of person.
Newcastle is better than lifeline for support just for the sheer fact that he has protection while rez
path this season is S/Top tier. path in season 0 is OFF THE CHARTS!
Vantage is the most selfish character. I think wraith’s portal is more useful. Only if the vantage user is good does vantage matter. If the user sucks vantage doesn’t do much for the team. I’ve had so many bad experiences dealing with useless vantage
Everyone saying mirage is broken and really bad because of the health bars is just a bad mirage player. He's still good if you actually know how to play him
I'm a Crypto player 🤣
Alter buff-
Holding x automatically gives purple knock and simultaneously portals.
Also.......enemy taking portal only travels 50% of the distance of portal and is dropped off with a brief highlight of the portal path similar to the wraith ghost trail and downed enemy is briefly pinged. Thoughts? @iitztimmy
How does Valk do now with her new changes
When is the interview with the fragpunk dev's dropping timtim?
Alter is good type of legend to clutch.