What's My Line? - Vince Lombardi; Herb Alpert; PANEL: Sue Oakland, Tony Randall (Jan 22, 1967)
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- MYSTERY GUEST: Vince Lombardi; Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass
PANEL: Sue Oakland, Tony Randall, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
NOTE: Closing credits added from an older rerun pre-GSN-credit-crunching.
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How can anyone give thumb downs to these marvelous pieces of history that have been posted for our enjoyment? :( This is such a wonderful experience.
Baffling, isn't it? I don't think I've ever seen a TH-cam video with more than a few thousand views that didn't have downvotes. Just goes with the territory. But comments like yours more than make up for it!
Merrida100
Apparently hip-hop & rap fans.
Presumably the more views, the more likely a clip appears in the feeds of people using TH-cam. Of course not all those people will welcome something in black & white featuring people they don't know with music thry don't like.
Mostly people unhappy with their own lives and like to bring a bit of grief, however small, to TH-cam posters of good material.
There are always those who vote down because they can just to give a bad rating. It doesn’t matter if they really care about the video or not they hit down. They’re called mean people
18:55 "This Guy's In Love With You" wasn't out yet, so Herb wasn't yet known as a singer.
Neither Herb Alpert nor anyone in the Tijuana Brass were Hispanic. They were all Jews & Italians. There wasn't even a band when Herb Alpert first got started --- he played all the brass parts; he formed a band after he hit the charts so he could tour & play his early hits.
20:28 Bennett Cerf asks Herb Alpert, "Mr. Alpert, what company releases your records?" Guaranteed Cerf knew the answer, and was merely giving Alpert a chance to plug his company.
Cerf was straight up genius.
Aritosthenes I think the sentiment was more about how clever Cerf was. Forget the 'genius' usage. I forgive the use of that one all the time.
Isn't it obvious, this show was totally rigged! Cerf gave it away when he claimed to know Lombardi was a sports figure, simply by the way the audience applauded.
@@michaelkelly3221 The loudest applause was men cheering. That means sports. If it was men whistling that means a glamour girl. If it's a loud cheer of everyone then it's a major star - John Wayne, Judy Garland, etc. If it's women cheering it's a male heartthrob - likely a singer but also a handsome movie star. If people are laughing it's a comedian. It's been 17 years of show. Arlene and Bennet know the audio clue of the audience.
@@geraldkatz7986 They also researched what prominent famous people were in town.
Or straight up greedy.
When I was stationed at the Kaneohe Marine Corps Air Station on Ohau back in the early '70s, I bought a board game called "Vince Lombardi Football" that the guys and I played for hours. This man, who had just won the first two Superbowls, was a legend!
Also, coincidentally, I had the opportunity to see and hear Herb Alpert when he came to visit the troops in Quang Tri, Vietnam in the summer of 1969. So I kinda' got a "twofer" in this WML show. Wow!
Thanks for your service, soldier..
I would guess you no longer have the Lombardi Board Game. I don't know if it was a popular game, but today It probably would have some value - and what a great nostalgic item to own. Great story. Best Wishes to you.
Thank you for your service! Nice that you shared your memories too. 😊
@@robertsprouse9282(Marine!)
We saw Herb Alpert a few years ago in Victoria BC…
WOW, WOW, WOW! After Lombardi walks off, in walks my mother's best friend! Helen's oldest son, Mark, was my very best friend, growing up in Blythe in the 1950s. We used to go swimming in the Colorado River. I remember his younger brother, Clay was a pain. Helen made saddles and other tack. She also made moccasins and "Squaw boots".
That’s incredible!!
@@BrookeBullmasterStewart, that was on ABC in the '80's.
Who else but Tony Randall can ask such clear questions and be so hugely funny without making solutions? Right there with Martin Gabel and Steve Allen as panelists.
Yes, they are the triumvirate of guest panelists.
I like Tony. There was the Odd Couple episode where he and Oscar were guests on Password. It's a classic.
Tony was my favorite guest panelist.
The master! Vince Lombardi such class and grace there will never be another like him
'Football isn't a "contact" sport. *Dancing* is a "contact" sport. Football is a collision sport.'
Vince Lombardi
@@57highlandFrank Gifford was the first to utter that phrase.
@@kevinmadden1645 Wow! I wouldn't have thunk it!
Thanks again for my daily "laugh out loud fix'. I doubt that anyone associated with WML would have guessed that nearly 50 years after the original series ended that they would still be bringing joy and happiness to so many people. :-)
LOA1955
It's a wonderful thing, isn't it?! :-)
I think this same thing often. They were hilarious and so much fun. Tony Randall was a hoot and I really only knew him from the Odd Couple! He was so much more than that role! ❤️
So well said and so true.
this show was fun to watch-the regular panelists and John Daly were intelligent, well informed on current events and showed class and respect. can't find that now. my mom loved the show. thanks
For my money Herb Albert recorded the best love song ever "This Guy's in Love with You" in 1968.
Eleven years later, he had another number one hit with the instrumental "Rise," on of my favorite hits of the 70s.
1985OldSkool Joe Postove
*More from Wikipedia:* " 'Rise' made Alpert the only artist ever to hit No. 1 on the Billboard Pop Singles chart with both a vocal piece and an instrumental piece."
And a bit more about "This Guy's In Love With You," written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David (which I agree is a *great* song!) : .
"Alpert sang it to his first wife in a 1968 CBS Television special titled Beat of the Brass. The sequence was filmed on the beach in Malibu. The song was not intended to be released, but after it was used in the television special, allegedly thousands of telephone calls to CBS asking about it convinced Alpert to release it as a single, two days after the show aired.[15] Although Alpert's vocal skills and range were limited, the song's unchallenging technical demands suited him.[16] The single debuted in May 1968, topped the national chart for four weeks and ranked among the year's biggest hits."
SaveThe TPC Both of them are great songs.
SaveThe TPC It is his vocal limitations, and his forthright sincerity that really comes through that makes it an everyman song. Better voices have sung "This Guy's In Love With You" but not even coming close to the true expression of HA.
My best love song choice too, but I never found out who the Guy was.
My dad is a massive Green Bay Packers fan, so he's going to enjoy the hell out of this episode when we watch it later tomorrow.
Great to see Vince Lombardi.
Tony Randall always seems like a genuinely nice, upbeat guy.
From what I saw of him as a guest on some talk shows, I think he would be a lot of fun to be with at a party.
Tony was a "class act."
Vince Lombardi was truly the best head coach of the NFL!
Next to Chuck Knoll
One of the acts A & M Records signed was the Carpenters. Herb was so in love with Karen and her voice.
Who wasn't?
I think her music will make a comeback.
In love with her voice maybe, but her? I think Lani Hall would beg to differ.
The Packers had just won Super Bowl I.
Packers 35, KC Chiefs 10
What a great delight to see young Herb Alpert. He is one of those "god' favorites": extraordinary talent, successful career, creating a respected business, good looking and well-mannered, longevity. He has it all. A truly admirable person.
He was 31 here.
And a talented, gorgeous wife as well.
Not many people know it, but Alpert is the most wealthy man in the music biz. He out-banked Elvis, The Beatles, and Michael Jackson.
Jimmy Fallon's cousin?
Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass should've been inducted in The Rock And Roll Hall Fame thirty years ago.
Sadly, Sue Oakland passed on her Turn of Twisted Fate March 14, 2021.
It's interesting that The Tijuana Brass had a Latin beat, but Herb is not Latino.
Herb Alpert, such a legend!
Herb was an occasional singer. He hat a hit record as a singer called "This Guy's In Love With You".
Ken Henderson He was a singer, but at the time of this show, he had not yet started singing. About a year or so later.
Herb is, to my knowledge, the only person in the USA to have a number 1 instrumental and a number 1 vocal hit.
I'm 63 as of this writing, and I can say that is one of my all time favorite song...it's so intense...
Mine too. I love the unique time changes.
"This Guy's in Love with You" was released in April of 1968. This program aired in January of 1967.
man, herb alpert was a superstar in the late 60s. didn't he do "taste of honey" or something like that? it was just out of this world then.
Yes, he did.
yes among others
Superstar is right. I remember as a kid Casey Kasem saying that in 1966, Herb Alpert and the TJB sold more albums than the Beatles (this was in part because until Sgt Pepper's, younger people tended to buy 45 rpm singles rather than albums).
TJB recorded The Lonely Bull
Spanish Flea
Tijuana Taxi
So many others
I loved them at the time
@@lucyflorey9152, Mexican Shuffle, too, not to be confused with the Teaberry Shuffle..which used the same music for the ad.
My father adored Herb Alpert and the band. We listened a lot!!!
I love the way Arlene smiles! Her whole face lights up!
I AM SO GLAD TO HAVE SEEN THIS SHOW
AS I HAVE NEVER SEEN HERB ALPERT,
YET FOR THE PAST YEAR I WALK EACH
DAY FOR ONE HOUR TO RISE
For Herb Alpert, it all started in his garage in West Hollywood.....
John's compliment to Vince at the end of his visit is about as good as it gets.
Sports had it's proper place back then. Today it's been exalted, undeservedly so in my opinion.
I find it interesting that when all-time fantasy football teams are put together that Vince Lombardi is always named as the coach.
Wait a second Bennett thought it was somebody from the athletic field just because some guy roared in the audience?
Herb Alpert sings my favorite love song of all time "This Guy's In Love With You"!
21:17 - I love the way Sue Oakland always has a look of delighted surprise when she finds out she has correctly guessed the Mystery Guest!
Of all the DDot wannabees that they auditioned, I think I like her best, mainly because I can't stand Phyllis and Suzy doesn't turn my crank too much.
@@jethro1963, Sue turns my crank. I just made homemade ice cream..sorta
Robert Sprouse....gotcha 😏
@@robertsprouse9282 eww
@@robertsprouse9282🤣
I was saddened and a little shocked when I read about Dorothy Kilgallen death.
Your comment has nothing to do with this episode.
I never knew how witty and funny Tony Randall was.
Great to see the GOAT NFL coach on this show!!
Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass turned out superb music on many albums. My family had their great album, " The Beat Of The Brass" on 8- Track Tape Cartridge when my father bought a Craig Stereo 8- Track Tape Player in 1967 or 1968. We would listen to that tape countless times during the late 1960's into the 1970's! Wonderful, memorable times!
LOVE this group
Sue.. Has Such BEAUTIFUL Smile(s)😊☺️☺️☺️🎨☺️😊☺️
Herb Alpert was a very talented man. His wife was Lani Hall of Sergio Mendes and Brazil 66. He was also a great businessman.
No past tense needed. Still live and blowing his trumpet! And doing shows before this pandemic.
His Wife is a beauty..
I was 11 at this time and was listening to all those Herb Alpert albums on my record player when other kids my age were into "hip" music.
It's so awesome to see the legend himself Vince Lombardi. It's almost football time gang and i can hardly wait!
+Unko Piko Just three years later, he learns he has terminal cancer.
+Grant Bewickne of the finest cancer clinics in USA is named for Vince Lombardi, it is in DC.
Herb Alpert's production company discovered and helped countless, now famous musicians.
I am shocked. I thought Herb had Argentinian German roots as he looked hispanic with a Germanic sounding name. He is of Ukrainian and Romanian Jewish roots? I am shocked. However, many Ukrainians look hispanic or "native" American indian..
@@robertsprouse9282 Most of the Tijuana Bass members were Jewish. Alpert also co-founded A*M Records. I think he sold it to Sony, etc.
As soon as Vince talks you know it's him he has such a unique voice.
Rough and smooth at the same time. Don't know how he managed it, but that's what it sounded like.
@@57highlandIt's a hard voice to imitate.
This was a great show. All the guests were fantastic. Panel and John were so talented!
Sue's "positively last day" remark about football season referring to the fact that the Pro Bowl was played that day in Los Angeles. Bennett's comment about the Giants wanting him back is a comment on how Lombardi had been the Giants offensive coordinator in their glory days of the 50s (and when Tom Landry had been defensive coordinator). Vince would have ideally been the Giants head coach but their incumbent at the time, Jim Lee Howell kept putting off his retirement for so long that when the Packers made Lombardi an offer it was the one to grab. Lombardi turned a nothing franchise into the greatest in NFL history while the Giants, having let Lombardi and Landry both get away, collapsed under Allie Sherman in 1964 and by the time of this program were coming off a last place season of 1-12-1.
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Thanks for explaining that "positively last day" comment. I was wondering about that.
With one of, if not the worst, defenses in NFL history..37 points a game..worst..
@@michaelhasenstein7838, but in the NFL TITLEGAME ERA post-1932, the Pack under Lombardi the only ones to win three NFLs or NFCs in a row= '65-67..
After Lombardi had been in GB a few years, the Giants tried to hire him back but it didn't happen. Some of Lombardi's quotes on the matter: "I think I'd be leaving in bad taste out here (meaning Green Bay)", and "As much as I'd like to come to the Giants, I've made a commitment out here". Imagine Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Rick Pitino or Larry Brown saying something like that.
Loved the saddle maker. Kept the panel all over the place lol.
vince lombardi, wow, the packers had just won the 1st "afl-nfl world championship game", it wouldn't be called the "super bowl" for another 2 years. lombardi would be dead in 3 1/2 years and the super bowl winner would then win the "lombardi trophy."
It was changed in 1970. That year K.C Chiefs beat Minnesota Vikings 23-7
This makes them the first true Lombardi trophy winners
@@incognitouser1344 Lombardi was still alive when the Chiefs won Super Bowl IV.
@@incognitouser1344 The first winner of the Vince Lombardi Trophy was the Baltimore Colts. (Super Bowl V)
I can't picture anyone having the nerve to dump a bucket of Gatorade over Vince Lombardi's head.
Not and live to tell about it, unless they were alive then in New Orleans, or now in Cleveland..
Nonsense...if Lombardi was coaching today, you can bet your sweet bippy he'd get dumped on and would enjoy it because it would mean he is winning and would be bonding with his unit. Lombardi coached in an era NO coach got dumped on...today, they pretty much all do - thanks to the 1986 NY Giants, who made it a season-long ritual right up thru their Super Bowl victory.
@@waldolydecker8118, no, he never wanted to be at the same level of his players, and he damned sure did not want them to act like college boys, or high schoolers.
Professionalism was intricately linked to discipline in the NFL back then. Lombardi was no exception on that sideline.
He may have wanted to go out with HORNUNG AND MCGEE= "Gentlemen, You find something worth 500 dollars(curfew breaking fine) and I'll go out with you."..but he never did.
To suggest otherwise, that LOMBARDI in the NFL was a clown, is the really pure nonsense.
See, I can be dismissive, too.
@@robertsprouse9282 - You can be an idiot too, lol. You are talking a bunch of nonsense that has to do with a completely different era in time. How Lombardi coached in 1969 has NOTHING, I say again, NOTHING to do with coaching today's multi-millionaire, free agent, union represented, #1 asset franchise players. Lombardi and other coaches from the 1960's and earlier held all 52 cards when dealing with players; today, the deck is more evenly distributed, as it should have been all along.
You are making the mistake that many stupid people make when they compare eras 50 years apart - you think that how somebody operated in 1967 is exactly how they would operate today. Bull. Lombardi is a legend - everybody knows that - but if he coached today, he would have to evolve with the times, just like every other coach has Only an idiot claims a Lombardi today would approach every aspect of his coaching as if he was stuck in 1967, lol.
Your claim reveals you didn't live when Lombardi coached, so you are unable to know anything personally of the difference in eras, and unfortunately, your education has failed to inform you. In a word, ignorance.
@@waldolydecker8118, Genius Mensa Man, I was a teen when VINCE won those SUPER BOWLS.
AND..
BILL BELICHICK in the age of zillionaires, coaches the same way.
Or, did you miss that?
You ever see the look on BILL'S FACE when his players ONE TIME TRIED TO DUMP GATORADE ON HIM?
Did ya ever see them dump it, again after that?
As for 1969, AND 1959-67, V. LOMBARDI ruled like BELICHICK..AS FOR 2000-PRESENT..BILL B. RULES LIKE LOMBARDI.
No, some of today's players are more interested in SOCIAL MEDIA and trashtalking and beating their wives and girlfriends, and driving like maniacs and preening about politics that they DO NOT KNOW BLEEP ABOUT.
And, the next time that I see them put out third and fourth professional effort will be the first such occasion.
I would rather see them squirm under the owner's thumb and act like professionals aimed at keeping their jobs and providing what the ticketholders' paid for, and what homeviewers who buy their spots/ ads products advertise, and order SUNDAY TICKET AND STREAMING, paid for, than the frauds in the inducement half-assing it twits who have as much power or more than owners and management today.
This may come as a big shock to you.
But, the fans don't owe the players a damned thing.
They are there for us.
We pass the bond issues for their stadiums and pay taxes to give us a comfortable, modern place to watch a game or more..
We are doing them a favor, not the other way around.
We demand professionalism.
They don't think they have to deliver it.
Sorry, if they don't like it, let them see no fans, and go pump gas or say: Y'WANT FRIES WITH THAT..
Unfortunately, enough union mentality people like you will put up with a modern inferior product.
Why is that?
Is it because the players are sticking it to the MAN?
Its time the MAN says: GO bleep off.
If you and they don't like it, too bleepin' bad, ALEXANDER FLEMING.
Got it, you NUKE PHYSICIST/PENICILLIN USER?
YOUR MOVE, GENIUS..
I'm a vintage "country" music fan, but Herb A. & The T. Brass were fantastic. Several music legends started their recording careers on Herb's A&M Records, including Waylon Jennings.
Don’t forget the carpenters, Joe cocker, Cat Stevens, and many others,
Both My Mother, and Grandmother had several of Herb's Records. I listened to them all the time. I own a Trumpet 🎺 too.
Boy, they guessed Vince Lombardi fast!
That's because they put two and two together with the audience reaction and the fact that the championship was just the week prior.
@@chrisgast, in most of the 60's GREEN BAY was Pro Football..Just as the Browns and Lions were the sport in a lot of the '50's..with a little Rams and Colts thrown in.
Green Bay won FIVE NFL titles, and the first two SBOWLS= from '60-68, with the only three seasons they did not win involving:
1.the new experience of that bunch of Packers being in their first championship game= vs. Philly, 2. Paul Hornung suspended for gambling, and 3. The Packers trying to get him back to snuff while they had a big injury year. After that, it was three NFL CROWNS IN A ROW the very first time in the championship game era that the threepeat happened, with none since, nor in GREEN BAY's NFC(post 1969) has it ever happened, and when Lombardi quit, they were never the same machine. He was so good that Washington his one year there had their first winning season in TWELVE YEARS..
The only other time a threepeat happened in the NFL(NFC) was Curly Lambeau's late 20's PACKERS who won by the best winning percentage in the league(no playoff= nor official titlegame pre-1933..) three years in a row..
Buffalo in the '90's did win four AFC's in a row, but not the NFL CROWN..MIAMI in the '70's three AFCs in a row, two NFL Crowns..NEW ENGLAND recently three AFCs in a row, two NFL Crowns..
R.I.P. VINCE..
Vince Lombardi. A class act all the way. Something that is sorely missing in this era of football.
especially-with the "no kneelers". miss those respected days.
Soooo humble, too.
I've never heard of Sue Oakland, but she is (or was) quite a hottie.
Yes she was..
Even as a child I grew up on the Brass in the 60's :-D
Tony Randall cracks me up.
Tony Randall came out The Odd Couple 3 year Later
I cannot figure out why I had a sudden urge for pumpkin pie and chewing gum when the Tijuana Brass came on.
soulierinvestments
Having just read the Wikipedia article about Herb Alpert, I'm guessing that the chewing gum urge refers to the tunes he has written for gum commercials, but I must have missed the references to pumpkin pie.... ?
I'm assuming that chewing gum refers to the song "The Mexican Shuffle" which was renamed "The Teaberry Shuffle" for Clark's Teaberry Gum.
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And that pumpkin pie refers to the song "Whipped Cream" (the title song from the album with a most provocative cover) another song that "The Dating Game" sampled for introducing its contestants.
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Some stories about the cover and the woman on it (as far as I can tell, she is still living between Seattle and Portland as of July 2019).
www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/herb-alperts-whipped-cream-lady-now-76-living-in-longview-and-looking-back/
groovyhistory.com/whipped-cream-girl-herb-alpert
@@savethetpc6406 "The Teaberry Shuffle" is the tune that pertained to chewing gum.
The Brass also had a hit titled "Whipped Cream." Which probably pertains to pumpkin pie.
One of the interesting things about John Daly that hardly gets mentioned in the WML forums is his ability to take threads of conversations from the beginning of the show and continue to weave them in the conversations throughout to the end. And he does that without a staff of writers giving him his lines. No pun intended.
He had an amazing memory. He remembered every question and how it was put.
Great newscaster in his time..married to Earl Warren's daughter= ironic when you consider how Ms. Kilgallen probably met her fate..
@@robertsprouse9282 Hmmm.. Didn't know that factoid about JCD. That is ironic.
Herb Alpert.......Best trumpeter ever!! 🎺🎺🎺🎺
Doc Severinsen?
Conrad Gozzo?
Uan Rasey?
Derek Watkins?
Bud Herseth?
Maurice Murphy?
Louis Armstrong?
Freddie Hubbard?
Kenny Baker?
…ad nauseum
Herb Alpert and the Supremes are probably as close to rock artists as WML would ever have as guests, despite existing at the birth of rock music. They did, though, have a superabundance of artists who would never chart a song again due to changing musical tastes.
WML had comic Vaughn Meader on just before JFKENNEDY was assassinated.
And, Kilgallen was just singing his praises for being on his way up to the bigtime after he had initially broken through with his smash millions selling comedy album.
Unfortunately, the JFK impressionist saw his career go up in a puff of gunsmoke when JFK was killed.
Literally it was a rags to riches to rags story over a two year period.
Two things died in Dealy Plaza in Dallas that November 22nd., 1963, one far more important than the other; one very important= impactful for a whole 200 million people, one far less important= devastating for one man, his family, and his millions of fans.
First Super Bowl! Saw it with my dad.
Even the intro to this show was clever and creative.
I remember how sexy people thought the album cover was of "Whipped Cream and other Delights".
Except for the whipped cream, the lady was nekked.
@@57highland Actually, the model was not naked. The picture only suggested it.
Vince Lombardi a great man ! Very humble and soft spoken and gracious Similar to John Wooden . All opponents are tough .
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but one person who did not agree with that sentiment was John Wooden. He thought his style was completely different from Lomardi's, and it was.
To me, after reading "When Pride Still Mattered" is the repeated willingness of Lombardi to overlook poor character in his players. He viewed good players as not being subject to the rules that everyone else had to follow. Rather then being exemplars, he felt that their prowess entitled them to cut corners. Two examples. When Lombardi was at Army, there was a huge cheating scandal among the football players. Despite the Honor Code, football cadets who took exams in the morning told football players who would take the exam in the afternoon some of the questions. This rocked West Point around the time of the Korean War, a much different era, and when "Duty, Honor, and Country" exemplified West Point. Lombarid was well aware of what was occurring. According to the book, Lombardi felt that in addition to their studies, which all cadets did, football players were also expected to devote themselves to football and deserved to have a break cut for them. At the time, Army was a huge football powerhouse, but after the disgrace of the scandal, it never recovered its lofty position in college football. By contrast, Wooden wanted his players to be successful beyond basketball.
When Lombardi coached the Packers, one of his best players, Paul Hornung, bet on NFL games and associated with shady characters. The NFL put a lifetime ban on his playing. But the ban was later reversed, and Hornung said it was because of Lombardi's lobbying of the commissioner. All that mattered to Lombardi was athletic success at any price.
Ultimately, Lombardi's swagger and misguided machismo cost him his life. Lombardi refused to undergo standard preventive screenings for colon cancer. He felt that no one was going to place anything in that part of his anatomy. By the time he was in pain and bleeding and agreed to a colonoscopy, it was too late. I respect his victories but not the man.
@@preppysocks209, I love Wooden, especially when he told the long haired, bearded Walton, he appreciated Bill digging his heels in to keep Bill's beard and hair longer, and Wooden told Bill that, just before he added WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU AROUND HERE.
LOL..
Walton cut his hair..
But..
WOODEN looked the other way when UCLA's "godfather" booster broke every rule in the book, to illegally pay and recruit..
We found about all of that much later..
So, Wooden wasn't Mr.Perfect, either..
Just found this in Sue Oakland from a 1966 TV Guide. They’re discussing who the contenders are for Dorothy Killgallen’s seat after her death:
“At press time there are three clear contenders for the seat. There’s Phyllis Newman, another veteran of To Tell the Truth, married to legendary Broadway composer Adolph Green; charming, bubbly and very girlish (and I mean that as a compliment), always having to tilt her head upward slightly during the Mystery Guest segment so her mask wouldn’t fall off. Sue Oakland is a surprise finalist; married to TV producer Ted Cott (David Susskind’s cousin), she’s got both beauty and brains: “Besides being breath-takingly beautiful and gowned, she is a near-genius, with a Master’s degree in political science from Columbia University and with one lovely leg up on a Ph.D.* *Her Master’s was in the inside workings of the United Nations; her Doctoral dissertation was “The Function of Television on the Presidential Election Campaign of 1968."
Meant to say “just found this ON Sue Oakland…”
That's pretty high-speed stuff.
I don't know what made Sue Oakland choose that outfit with the headdress, but I'm a fan.
had their records, saw them perform great music
History was made with that first "Super Bowl" from the week before, when the Green Bay Packers won. Listen to that loud applause!
a Tape of that first broadcast was found a few years ago www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704709304576124373773290508
Which means to me, Gary, that there is more out there (I'll betcha a million sheks) of WML, Jack Paar, 1962 guest hosts of the Tonight Show (period between Paar and Carson) and early Carson. On Kinescope or tape, I think the motherlode is out there.
It was carried simultaneously on CBS and NBC (but with different crews I think).
What years did Lombardi work for the Packers? He did a short stint in Washington with the Redskins in the early 70's before his untimely death/
Joe Postove 1959 to 1968; 1959-1967 as Head Coach, and 1968 as General Manager.
+Joe Postove
Ray Scott (first half play by play), Jack Whitaker (second half play by play) and Frank Gifford were the announcers for CBS. They had a 22.6 Neilsen rating (estimated 26.75 million viewers) and a market share of 43.
Curt Gowdy and Paul Christman were the announcers for NBC. They had a 18.5 Neilsen rating (estimated 24.43 million viewers) and a market share of 36.
(Since my brother and I were AFL fans, we probably watched it on NBC.)
War nearly broke out between the crews of the rival networks and a fence had to be built to separate their trucks.
All hail the king of football VINCE LOMBARDI!!! GO PACK GO!!!
They locked Saint Vince down so fast lol
The Tijuana Brass won $20 which divided seven ways is under $3 each.
Herb Alpert - the co-founder of A&M Records and a mega-businessman and star. Loved the fact that most of the Tijuana Bass members were Jewish.
Lotta ifs here, but if Coach Lombardi's great Packers team hadn't of been injury-plagued in 1963 and 1964, they would have won 7, that's SEVEN, straight NFL championships.
My Cowboys never defeated them during Coach Lombardi's great 60s tenure.
In '63, HORNUNG was suspended for gambling on NFL games. He said they were not Packer games..
There was a lot more to it in '63 & '64 than just Hornung's absence. Much shifting in the O-line due to injury. And, the team won it all in '67 WITHOUT Hornung.
Sue Oakland is the most beautiful lady I have ever seen !!!!! WOW !!!!!!!!
She is beautiful, 10 out of 10, but if she is the most beautiful lady you’ve seen make a note to get out more often after the Covid epidemic.
And whatever she was wearing on her head when she walked out in this episode, it worked for me!
*_VINCE LOMBARDI, COACH OF THE GREEN BAY PACKERS_*
*_SADDLE MAKER_*
We'll see Tony again, when he comes on as Mystery Guest in an episode two weeks later.
Miss Oakland looks like Shania Twain in “That Don’t Impress Me Much”
I don't understand why on so many of these episodes, they like to make the celebrates so obvious by binging them on when their season is playing or something to that effect.
Even with the contestants, I've seen it where they find out someone's from England and obviously the fist thing you gonna think of is Buckingham Palace, and the contestants a guard
or they live in Washington, so naturally you're gonna think of the Whitehouse or the President, and the contestant woks for them. Like, why do they have to make it so OBVIOUS!
So, Coach Lombardi didn't disguise his voice. Knowing how the man lived his life, I suspect he felt it wasn't dignified to do so. This would've been shortly after his teams' victory in the first NFL-AFL championship game, before it was officially called the Super Bowl.
Back when the Cleveland Browns were a powerhouse.
At the end Bennett delightfully modest, for the panel has figured out saddle makers of the past.
Hopefully I won't have to wait too long for Sue's next breath-taking appearance, as she's my new favorite panelist!(albeit nearly 50 years late)
Hold on, cool down..you're a little too alive for her...
Please explain who she is
@@janetmarletto6667 Be a woman and GOGGLE her. Don't be that lazy.
Funny, that is the first time I've ever seen that band in person.
Most of their albums were recorded with much better musicians= THE famed studio musicians, THE WRECKING CREW.
These guys on WMLINE? were more actors than musicians out on the concert and appearance circuit, and their TV SHOW gigs..
Tony Randall is great. My other 'occasional panelist' faves are Steve Allen & Phyllis Newman.
Guest panelists who appeared through early 1967 who are still living in 2020 are Woody Allen, Paul Anka, Joanna Barnes, Harry Belafonte, Jeannie Carson, Dick Cavett, Joan Collins, Anne Douglas, Jane Fonda, Anita Gillette, George Hamilton, Jack Jones, Aliza Kashi, Steve Lawrence, Pia Lindstrom. Sue Oakland, Mort Sahl, William Shatner, Marlo Thomas, Dick Van Dyke, Betty White.
Betty is 98..that's my temperature!
They shoulda got Paul Lynde on here
Only two years later, the band disbanded.
Herb Albert is smokin hot
He's adorable.
@@michaelhasenstein7838 hahaha no.
@@michaelhasenstein7838, funny, funny..she had never heard that one before.
Nooooo...
I was immediately struck by the Mid-Atlantic accent of both Ms. Oakland and game show moderator Daley.
To my ear she has a Standard American accent. Bennett has a bizarre accent loaded with mispronunciations: he makes known a 2 syllable word!
Daly, not Daley
"Yellow Pages"? How quaint. I think the last time I saw Yellow Pages was in early 2000s
I received my official yellow pages in the mail on 12/16/2023.
Vince Lombardi will always be the Giants offensive coordinator a shame he wasn't allowed to come back to the Giants but Parcells and Coughlin came close .....
No disrespect intended, but who is Sue Oakland? I never heard of her.
+Kelly02895 Nobody knows. She's always introduced as "smart and pretty", but with no other indication as to why she would qualify as a celebrity panelist on this show. The internet offers little explanation as well.
That's enough
@@jvcomedy, director of news editorials for the CBS-TV affiliate in NY, and wife of the man who created direct marketing= Wunderman..
Born Susan Oksman(changed to Oakland) married a guy COTT, used his name on TV when delivering editorials..PhD FROM COLUMBIA U...
Brains and a beauty back then..she is still alive, too.
Love watching these shows.
GREATEST COACH EVER 💖💯💖💯💖💯
After Mr. Randall's opening, incorrect query of the second contestant, he remarks, "I'm off and, running."
From Tulsa, Oklahoma= Mr. Randle..
I don't think Arlene and Bennett sat next to each other that often during the show's run.
+Joe Postove They did for years when WML began having Dorothy and Arlene alternate coming in first.
That was to easy the packers beat the giants Earlier in the day and then Vince comes on what's my line in the evening Amazing just 3 years prior the packers were the doormats of the NFL that was less than 4 mins To come up with the right answer
It would be very interesting to see the player of 2020 being coached by Vince Lombardi. Mr. Lombardi was a no-nonsense and no B.S. coach. Everything was about the team and not the individual.
Very true, but Lombardi was also a master psychologist in dealing with his players. Even in his day different personalities needed different treatment to get the best out of them, and he was a maestro at that.
He let Hornung be a wild child, and McGee, too, but only in the offseason..
Lombardi told them if you find a woman that is worth the money I am going to fine you for breaking curfew, come and get me, I'll go with you..
Interesting that Vince Lombardi failed to disguise his voice when he appeared on "What's My Line?", which made it too easy for the panel to figure out who the Mystery Guest was.
Well, Bennet Cerf immediately remarked "that the roar from the audience often denotes someone from the athletic field". The audience's reaction was a big hint.
Probably would have been better if John Daly started with one of the other panelists.
When you are using a saddle properly, would you, as Arlene suggested, put your feet on any part of it? She got a yes. I know you put your feet in stirrups, but is that part of the saddle?
Yes a stirrup is part of the saddle, they are hooked together.
Yes..it doesnt grow out of the horse, right?