Just bought a Hightower 3 CC X0 AXS a week ago with a nice 15% discount, now I know the reason... I took it for its versatility and to save me from my mistakes. But at the end of the day, I'm more of a trail rider than an enduro rider, and I think the 3rd gen will probably suit me better than this 4th gen.
So riddle me this.... If I wish to purchase frame only in Aust, I can ONLY buy the CC frame. Which means I cannot use my existing X01 cable drivetrain. So I have to buy a wireless drivetrain, which I do not wish to do. Wireless drivetrains are expensive. This also promotes unwanted consumption/wastage, and upgrades for the sake of upgrades. Fcking bike industry is unbelievable. At least offer the C spec as a frame only!
@@marklouieadame OK. And then attach the cable guide to the frame...? Glue? No thanks. Drill & insert? Instant warranty killer. Please share how you would route the cable along (or through) the chain stay to the derailleur....?
i own a v1 high tower and previously over-stroke the frame to 150 rear end no worries. good to see the model go from strength to strength. just put a 2024 X2 shock and factory fork on it and its refreshed!
Great review as always Flow! Still wondering why the new Hightower and Bronson aren’t just one bike with the ability so swap wheels with a linkage adjust
Thanks mate, Tom did an awesome job reviewing the new Hightower! We posed your question to Santa Cruz, as we were wondering exactly the same thing. Why not just make the one bike that can adapt between a 27.5in or 29in rear wheel with a simple flip chip? It's worth noting that as with the previous generation, the new Hightower and Bronson share the same mainframe. The difference is in the linkage and the swingarm, which are purpose-built for either a 27.5in or 29in rear wheel. According to Santa Cruz, it prefers this approach that sees the frame construction and kinematics tailored to each application. Apparently using a flip chip would see too much of a compromise to the kinematics and ride quality, so in this case Santa Cruz is sticking to its guns. [Wil]
Great review. I don't mind cables being exposed, but interesting to see Santa Cruz optimise for a wireless dropper with that cable routing. Sad to see another CC frame lose the option to run a mechanical drivetrain.
Great clip! How would you compare it towards the commencal meta v5 in climbing capabilities and efficiency? And which one would be more stable for descending?
Just bought a Hightower 3 CC X0 AXS a week ago with a nice 15% discount, now I know the reason... I took it for its versatility and to save me from my mistakes. But at the end of the day, I'm more of a trail rider than an enduro rider, and I think the 3rd gen will probably suit me better than this 4th gen.
That bike sounded perfect to me, wish I got one.
3rd gen will suit 90% of riders better than this 4th gen. We need a trail bike, not an enduro bike.
Pretty big hole between the Tallboy and HT.
So riddle me this.... If I wish to purchase frame only in Aust, I can ONLY buy the CC frame. Which means I cannot use my existing X01 cable drivetrain. So I have to buy a wireless drivetrain, which I do not wish to do. Wireless drivetrains are expensive. This also promotes unwanted consumption/wastage, and upgrades for the sake of upgrades. Fcking bike industry is unbelievable. At least offer the C spec as a frame only!
I heard a comment that C level is being offered as fame only in the US.. 🤞 this broadens
Zip tie those cables to the frame. 😀
Man if this is true santa cruz have really fu#ked up ,to hell with wireless
Hehehe buy a cable guide its way better
@@marklouieadame OK. And then attach the cable guide to the frame...?
Glue? No thanks.
Drill & insert? Instant warranty killer.
Please share how you would route the cable along (or through) the chain stay to the derailleur....?
i own a v1 high tower and previously over-stroke the frame to 150 rear end no worries. good to see the model go from strength to strength.
just put a 2024 X2 shock and factory fork on it and its refreshed!
Great review as always Flow! Still wondering why the new Hightower and Bronson aren’t just one bike with the ability so swap wheels with a linkage adjust
Thanks mate, Tom did an awesome job reviewing the new Hightower!
We posed your question to Santa Cruz, as we were wondering exactly the same thing. Why not just make the one bike that can adapt between a 27.5in or 29in rear wheel with a simple flip chip?
It's worth noting that as with the previous generation, the new Hightower and Bronson share the same mainframe. The difference is in the linkage and the swingarm, which are purpose-built for either a 27.5in or 29in rear wheel.
According to Santa Cruz, it prefers this approach that sees the frame construction and kinematics tailored to each application. Apparently using a flip chip would see too much of a compromise to the kinematics and ride quality, so in this case Santa Cruz is sticking to its guns.
[Wil]
Because they make less money that way
@@dizzlef3760trueeee
Great review.
I don't mind cables being exposed, but interesting to see Santa Cruz optimise for a wireless dropper with that cable routing. Sad to see another CC frame lose the option to run a mechanical drivetrain.
I guess that makes the V3 version slightly more desirable to those who still prefers Mechanical Drivetrains
It is a 29er Bronson.
Good review! I have the HT 2022 and love it. This one like you said is a mini enduro bike, not sure if it has that all-around bike feeling 🤔
Great clip! How would you compare it towards the commencal meta v5 in climbing capabilities and efficiency? And which one would be more stable for descending?
With the bike getting bigger. Is it now recommended to go a size down??
Why do Santa Cruz continue to make their bikes more similar with every gen?
Probably because they are already perfect
how does it compare to the stumpy 15
So 2024 is better as I would never buy wireless gearing 🤣🤣🤣
"short travel enduro" 😂