The Good & The Bad Of The Newest Enduro Bikes Going Into 2024 | 2023 Pinkbike Field Test

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  • Here is a quick summary of the pros and cons of all 8 of our 2023 Enduro Bike Field Test bikes.
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ความคิดเห็น • 88

  • @Seebema
    @Seebema 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    my goldfish brain is satisfied and ready to make a $6000+ decision

    • @gregtobin7285
      @gregtobin7285 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Keep your old bike and spend that money on a trip to the bike park you've always wanted to visit

    • @MrSmellyoctopus
      @MrSmellyoctopus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gregtobin7285never!

    • @Seebema
      @Seebema 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregtobin7285 it's a joke buddy

    • @hannes6114
      @hannes6114 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What is it gonna be? Pease don't say Trek

    • @Seebema
      @Seebema 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hannes6114 well right now I'm torn between Deviate Highlander, evil insurgent, orbea occom LT. There's a few more that I can't think of

  • @JoshuaTootell
    @JoshuaTootell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    In short:
    Im keeping my 5 year old bike ar least another year (or more likely, until it catastrophically fails).

  • @Scottatnord
    @Scottatnord 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    All of the refinements to the fieldtest have been great this season. I really like the format, you guys are killing it.

  • @charlesrichmond4414
    @charlesrichmond4414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    This format is awesome. Nice way to sum it all up. Great job, guys!

    • @alexh.4068
      @alexh.4068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I disagree. Better to watch the original review videos. Better yet, bring back the old round table discussion you all had after the field test. This new format is severely lacking.

  • @scrutch666
    @scrutch666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The idler problem on the trek seams to be really serious. Seen this problem coming up almost at every test video i watched

    • @joeblack4026
      @joeblack4026 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      will be interesting to see how is trak going to approach it

    • @shamewizard3187
      @shamewizard3187 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope they can Trak the problem and solve it ;)
      @@joeblack4026

  • @smelker
    @smelker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Who want to fix their chain all the time? Buy a Trek!😂😂 How did that big company make a release like that?

  • @whitest_kyle
    @whitest_kyle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like the presentation of the wrap up this year, but I do miss the longer format field tests.

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So my take is the "winner" is probably the HD6, with the Nukeproof and Commencal as close seconds, the 3 least gimmicky bikes.

  • @wryanturner
    @wryanturner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well done. You know what would be great? For each bike, complete the statement, "This is the bike for you if ________."

  • @BogdanMiliu
    @BogdanMiliu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ah just the right amount of time for my morning 'loo visit.

  • @jonathanhowson6420
    @jonathanhowson6420 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    So, I will be keeping my 2018 Specialized Enduro Ohlins Coil LTD edition and my V2 Santa Cruz Bronson, because they are still kicking ass and why waste money on a new bike when what you have is already brilliant. Very little innovation has occurred in the past 5 years which has made a significant change to bikes. Just ride what you have and spend the money you save every year on a holiday or weekend away riding.

    • @SibrenFetter
      @SibrenFetter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You have summarised perfectly one of the main reasons why the bike industry is in trouble. I have a 10 year old Rose downhill bike on which I have installed newer elements (second hand). The bike is great! Not as good as some of the newer bikes of course, but not worth these crazy amounts.

    • @shamewizard3187
      @shamewizard3187 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      True story, for the extra cash needed I can take a sick bike trip to Canada all the way from Holland

    • @juanramirez7108
      @juanramirez7108 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SibrenFettermy friends or some are racing locally in south america with over 8 years old DH bikes with new conponents and doñas well as the new ones even better in some aspects why change its not like tecnology thease things advance very slowly takes even decades, cellphones Pc others etc take months to improve

  • @DarkFeedFPV
    @DarkFeedFPV 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:42 Trek Slash chain drop several time during test :P

  • @stokedspokesmtb4907
    @stokedspokesmtb4907 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Really looking forward to seeing the Darco in a trail bike field test, there isn’t much video content for the *arguably* more exciting of Chromag’s full sus lineup

  • @seano218
    @seano218 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Commencal's Clash is a great 27.5 Enduro bike as well, but... for some reason, all you mtb youtube content creators/influencers only feature and show 29ers and mullets? Why do you alienate the other riders and discriminate against their love for technical and playful riding? 29ers and their bastard offspring the mullet (which acknowledges the effectiveness of 27.5 wheels) are not the be all end all bike for everyone, nor would the 27.5 be the same. It's a blend of ALL sizes that you and the industry needs to showcase! Different bikes for different riders.

  • @henrikgistvall4402
    @henrikgistvall4402 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I get an Attenborough-feel when you are standing on the side and talking us through this :)

  • @323johnnybravo
    @323johnnybravo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Trek -Pros it’s a bike
    - Cons Everything Else !!!

  • @Nicoya
    @Nicoya 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why call out low stack height as a drawback? It's the easiest thing in the world to fix by just slamming on a high-rise bar, whereas if the head tube was too long for a rider they're basically boned if they're already running a low rise or flat bar.
    It's like complaining that the seat tube is too short when you're just got a 125mm dropper in it.

    • @beno9966
      @beno9966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's also a weird comment when the Ibis is not even a low stack when compared to the rest. The difference between large frames is 10-15mm in the whole test.

    • @nexslv
      @nexslv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@beno9966 @Nicoya Same thing about the fork performance. Half of them are running the same fork, surely it's just a matter of setup?

  • @energ8t
    @energ8t 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’d honestly be more interested in a Pole Vikkelä, Nukeproof Mega (tested), Propain, Knolly or Devinci Chainsaw for sub $5K 🤷

    • @DandyHippo
      @DandyHippo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good luck getting a pole

  • @OtterXtra
    @OtterXtra 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Henry is getting better, just need leeve back with him

  • @MTBr-of-SoCal
    @MTBr-of-SoCal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, just an awesome video! Strait to the point, quick, no nonsense review. I wish more vids are done in this fashion.

  • @HOV4N
    @HOV4N 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where are these trails? 🚲🚲🚲 Aftermarket parts and modifications can solve these issues 🤓

  • @joelrunyan1608
    @joelrunyan1608 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why the hell is a LOW stack height a "drawback" u can add spacers or a high rise bar. Makes no sense to gig the hd6 for that

    • @pinkbike
      @pinkbike  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's almost that simple, but not quite. Stay tuned.

  • @StarAZ
    @StarAZ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if we should also factor looks in reviews. After all, we do also spend a lot of time staring at our bikes. I, for one, have been turned away from some bikes largely due to looks.

    • @frits8986
      @frits8986 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. If a bike is good looking, it rides better 😋

    • @harrie205
      @harrie205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the looks factor is always considerd(by the viewer)

  • @barrakingbeatz7794
    @barrakingbeatz7794 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trek slash well……the chain falls off 😂

  • @harrie205
    @harrie205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i want that nicolai
    but in carbon, with a floating brake and external routing
    then it would be a more efficent moderate high pivot with no derailleur headache(this would be a bike i would buy asap)
    but if i want an alloy enduro tank with bullit proof drivetrain i would get the Kavenz with a gearbox and a belt(so i could ignore mud and dont have to clean and lube drivetrain parts after muddy rides and have a stronger rear wheel and more traction)

    • @Henry-Quinney
      @Henry-Quinney 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Why the high pivot and a floating brake? Sounds like the worst of both worlds.

    • @harrie205
      @harrie205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Henry-Quinney high pivot for axle path and a floating brake to get the anti rise down(i want traction under breaking(the geo should prevent feelings of going OTB)).
      practicly i want a more sophisticated high pivot bike (for the same reason Forbidden changed theyre suspension from the druid V1 to V2(they decoupled the brake) or Norco did going from the Aurum HP to the Range(also reduction of anti rise) and many more)
      PS
      for non nerds: high single pivot bikes have high --> very high anti rise values

    • @Henry-Quinney
      @Henry-Quinney 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair enough - sounds like my idea of hell to be honest.@@harrie205

  • @s13kuminachu
    @s13kuminachu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok ill take one of each

  • @davidchrapko8451
    @davidchrapko8451 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is awesome. Commentary overlayed with the riding is fantastic

  • @aleksanderaleksandrov168
    @aleksanderaleksandrov168 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is the suspension on all the bikes set so soft, they are bottoming out on small bumps and holes 🙄

  • @KadenMonsonMTB
    @KadenMonsonMTB 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So which one would be best for racing?

  • @pedrosanciny6345
    @pedrosanciny6345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love to see some big brand going with Pinion.

  • @iLuveKatsup
    @iLuveKatsup 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you are ok with the change in reach.... would the HD6's issue with low stack height be alleviated with spacers underneath the stem & higher rise bar?

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Higher rise bar would fix it right up. it is lowish 630mm stack, though the Giga is only 631 reach both in size L. For comparison the Commencal Meta V5 is 642 reach and the RM Altitude is 638mm and the Specialized Enduro is mere 629mm.

    • @jasonb.3907
      @jasonb.3907 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya. They really latched onto a super minor thing in my opinion. I guess that speaks to how good the bike is if that's all they have.... add a couple spacers and a different handlebar.

  • @ioannisparaskevopoulos1120
    @ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would like to see the test ride review of the electric equivalents of these bikes

  • @mejne
    @mejne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I miss the old format and I miss Levy

  • @MTOProject
    @MTOProject 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video I like the staight to the point flow !! 👍🏼

  • @grrlewis1
    @grrlewis1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So. If I were considering buying the Ibis, sticking a -1 degree angleset & dropping the fork travel to 170mm would sound like a good way to steepen the seat angle a bit, slacken the head angle by half a degree & help with fork packing issue you had? I guess a high rise bar would go some way to getting the front end a bit higher too?

  • @kaneda4102
    @kaneda4102 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Commencal might be my new dream bike

  • @WesMacaulay
    @WesMacaulay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl this crop of bikes is giving me the opposite of buyers remorse for my current bike 😆

  • @alexh.4068
    @alexh.4068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Now Henry forgot the mention the chain drop on the Slash was due to the lower chain guide idler being installed minus a spacer and that they were able to remedy it once the problem was discovered.

  • @casestudymtb
    @casestudymtb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did Paul the punter do your thumbnails? Soooo many ✅️❌️🤣

    • @Slinkylinky179
      @Slinkylinky179 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He probably didn't since its mtb related sadly :(

  • @fat82much
    @fat82much 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great presenting Henry. Little mistake saying nukeproof mega, but all good

  • @beno9966
    @beno9966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find the stack comments odd. Most are around 630, the highest being around 645 comparing large frames. Hadly a huge difference.

  • @kylegoplin
    @kylegoplin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    haha the first line

  • @tabby4kyeet589
    @tabby4kyeet589 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4 minute gang?

  • @nickolson3899
    @nickolson3899 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one cares about racing, freeerideeeeee

  • @f1hotrod527
    @f1hotrod527 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    .................................however

  • @zakimations
    @zakimations 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anybody else miss 2016 geo? I should have never sold my Ibis HD3 😢

  • @OutsideTheWorld2
    @OutsideTheWorld2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can confirm - am pooing

  • @cameronashcroft4632
    @cameronashcroft4632 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did he know I was

  • @Eric.V.
    @Eric.V. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trek: back to the drawing board fellas

  • @gamehunter788
    @gamehunter788 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All you need to know is that everything will be overpriced,overhyped and not really that great

    • @seano218
      @seano218 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a buyers market for last years bikes right now, have you not seen all the discounts for many of the brands?

  • @youngstadan4999
    @youngstadan4999 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How comes theres never scott ransoms in videos. Theres none. Are they crap or something

  • @mece700
    @mece700 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nukeproof for the win🎉

  • @YoungBoom3r
    @YoungBoom3r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is "tracking?"

    • @AlexOsh
      @AlexOsh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      how it moves through terrain in a straight line. ie it tracks well in the root section meaning it stays planted and more or less straight as it tackles the terrain

    • @YoungBoom3r
      @YoungBoom3r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlexOsh Bit of a confusing term, doesn't this have more to do with tires and less to do with the bike itself? Also rider weight and ability? I'm new to this, but not sure how the bike frame plays in this.

    • @joshuaandress3666
      @joshuaandress3666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@YoungBoom3rhow well a bike "tracks" is mainly determined by the suspension setup and characteristics of the suspension design. Rider ability has some to do with it but certain frame designs will just do better than others in different situations

  • @DownhillDr
    @DownhillDr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hrnnn...that poo went too well...looks like I'll have to watch this in stages.

  • @slavnyan1152
    @slavnyan1152 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish we could see Mondraker here

  • @Blackielude91
    @Blackielude91 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Semi-arduous poo 😂

  • @thicccboyztv
    @thicccboyztv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only semi arduous. Truly arduous is gonna be a 20-30 min deep dive

    • @Henry-Quinney
      @Henry-Quinney 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wipe the sweat from my brow.