At some point I’m hoping there’s going to be a lucky group of people that put the Pikes Peak Multistrada vs the M1000XR on track and a cross country trip, and it is going to be glorious and I will be very jealous of their experience.
Ducati V4 wins hands down on the road, the M engine has insane top end but not enough low or midrange to make it fun on the road. Would be nice if the V4 revved a bit higher, but it’s pretty close to perfect for road use in my opinion. On track the M motor would kill it.
Realise people that one can't carry gear (as easily) on the M. It is not a quick XR as the touring capability has gone with no pannier fittings. The PP rules! Ridden both.
It was GS vs Pikespeak for me. Sept 4th was my pikes peak Anniversary. Done close 9k miles and am loving it. Last july in the middle of Colorado trip my pikes peak broke down with stone chip cracked one of the radiator(radiator guard is a must have). Rented GS for last 900ish miles and was really happy with my decision to go for Pikes Peak. Like the way it revs, stable, turns, fit and finish. Tech is amazing. Adaptive cruise and blind spot monitor works perfectly. Finished ironbutt saddle sore 1000 two weeks back and adaptive cruise was a blessing.
Im now looking for comfy adventure motorcycle and im woundering between pikes peak and the gsa1250 but i kinda lean to the pikes peak sadly today was raining like hell and i couldn’t try the pikes peak but i hope next week i will try both if i dont like them i will continue with my zzr1400zzzz
@@crazytrain7376 all the best. You must have gone through my likes mentioned in comment. while you ride pls pay attention to the slow speed ride comfort. PP Likes to stay at higher rpms.
@@HariNedunghat I just went to try it and it was blast and now i ride zzr1400 . Yeah with slow speeds was a bit like the big Z but i guess in touring mode would be much more comfortable in low speed.
Please stop apologising for being honest. Far too many uk journalists doing bike reviews who just love everything cause they are afraid of not getting another bike from the company. I rode one of these and thought the same. Glad you had the guts to say it is a good bike and a bit better than v4s but that’s it. I have a great Ducati dealer and got a test on it. Ended up buying something else (bmw m1000r).
Best wishes, only pray for the engine not having some failures under warranty ( not kiddin', reports from USA and central Europe speak enough) 'cos the bavarian brand will refuse to cover them...! 🤔😁 Everyone has his own taste or preference, but tech specs and bikes engineering can tell about the difference between this bike and the others.
I ride a V2S with a lot less power and almost half the price, I love it because you can use all the performance on UK roads in comfort. Though I’d be tempted by a standard V4S (did test ride one) and I can afford one, the PP is just a rich man’s toy. I also hate the number on the side, to me it ruins the look, a Ducati should just be red😜.
Lol chops you weigh the same as me and the Mrs, my v4s is epic with my 10 stone dripping wet ,absolutely rips ,front is up on bumps and crests especially with the mrs on the back ,faster than anything I've ever ridden and I've had most sports bikes over-the last 30 years and nothing touches this on A road blasts ,love it ,expensive though .
Hey Chopsy. I love the channel, but have to disagree on this one. I had a V4S MTS and the V4S SF; I currently have the PP and a GSXR 1000 (L7). The PP is an incredible machine. Mine started to come alive at about 5000 miles and has the full Akra exhaust. I take it on track and run in the fast group (foot pegs, gear/brake levers and engine bars have all grazed the track - such is the grip and poise available). Dial off the WC and you can easily get the the front wheel heading skywards, as well as the rear under heavy braking. Not sure why you didn’t get the full PP experience, but it’s incredibly impressive.
You’re definitely the best bike reviewer - I always come away feeling like I know the bike, and bikes I’ve ridden that you’ve reviewed, you’ve got them spot on IMO. Thanks Chopsy (Though I still prefer the SDR over MT-10 😂 )
This is what it looks like when the man falls in love with his motorcycle! Just great. I can feel every bit of the emotion in this video. Just great, than you for the great review of the Pikes peak!
I have this same bike. It’s the most important bike I’ve ridden … ever. The weight management takes time to trust. You can’t get that in one ride. I love the sound of the engine (not talking about the exhaust). The gas mileage is very low due to the V4. I also have the Diavel V4, and it’s worse than that. It’s an Italian Beauty on steroids.
I am fortunate enough to own a Pikes Peak now (I started off with a V4S, then a Super Duke R EVO, now the V4 PP) and I can confidently say that this bike is the best for me compared to the rest because of how good it is at everything. Even though the PP has a sharper throttle than the standard version, I confirmed that there are still some significant throttle limitations on this bike. I went ahead and flashed the ECU and you seriously have to be careful in 1st and 2nd gear. Keeping wheelie control on 5 as opposed to off, the bike still comes up (but controlled due to DWC). Wheelies in 1st and 2nd gear are now effortless and you can absolutely loop the bike backwards if you’re not careful. The bike does not like clutch up wheelies though. That is due to a switch in the clutch lever that is sensing for the rider “dumping” the clutch where the bike cuts the power off even with traction and wheelie control off. Unfortunately the flash did not get rid of that but regardless, any Multi V4 + ecu flash is a WINNING recipe for a bike that will not disappoint. Great video! Glad to see someone else that considers it as their dream bike. It certainly was for me.
I was looking at a GS or Multi, hired a GS for a four day ride and it was great, test rode a Multi V4s and it was incredible! Such an amazing bike, I’d have gone for the Pikes Peak but I need to occasionally follow my GS mates down some trails. Great review on the Pikes Peak!
Love your vids but I do own a PP and thought I would pipe in here for those interested in this bike. One thing that I think is important for people to know on pretty well all Ducatis is how they perform pre and post break-in. In fact, I've never experienced any bike that is so diff pre and post. Ducati builds in a limiter above 6k RPM during the break-in. After the first service it is like a different machine. I would agree about its lack luster vibe but only pre break-in. Once you get that first service look out. The engine is smoother, way more snappy and revs higher. I own a gen 3 Super Duke, 22 Hypermotard, Desert X and a few others so I have a good comparison stable. You can ride the PP as hard as a SD or any sport bike and it will give you what you are looking for. The PP is extremely engaging once you push it, lean it etc. It is more comparable to the BMW XR vs any other bike. I hope you can ride it post break-in and ride it like you stole it. I think you will find it is very engaging and will pull the wheel up very quickly. The great thing about the PP is that at ridiculous speeds you can hit corners and it feels like you could sip your coffee as well, the lower bars allow you to hang off and letter rip. No, it is not a Super Duke or Hyper but in a track race the PP would beat the SD and the Hyper and in total comfort.
Agreed, from that review he didn't really push on, that bike should be singing up above 8k all the time with that beautiful induction song. And it's got pirellis shoes on, made for dancing with corners unfortunately choppsy chickened out🙊 hopefully he trys it again but actually rides it the way it's meant to be ridden then I think he would change his mind🤔
I was able to ride my PP quite a bit lately and definitely do not agree that it is sterile. It is definitely smooth and refined but I do believe Ducati didn't do this bike any favors by calling it a Multi-Strada, there is no "multi" about it. This is an upright race bike so they should have called it something like the race Strada or ultra Strada but it is not a bike for more than the street. I think people go in thinking it is an adventure bike and therefore, they ride them like an adventure bike. It needs to be ridden like a sport bike.
With that in mind it weakens the review....if you cant push the bike and find the sweet spots is it a review worth considering? No offense to Lamb Chop but if I had reviewed any of my Ducs within the first 1k miles it probably would not be even close to as favorable after 2500 miles. I know that is a big ask to reviewers because they are supplied new bikes typically so they can be first to do the review. My short review so to speak is based off of some real world miles and situations. Not gonna lie, there was a moment where I thought it was sterile.....that did not last. I really strongly believe that Ducati made a mistake calling this thing a Multi-Strada......by no means is that accurate and it is misleading....it should have been Uno Strada.....;-). This is no multi road vehicle in any way it is a comfy race bike. I added the taler seat and some risers and I find it more comfy than my GS on long trips and much more rewarding in corners, better tech and just plain supreme cool factor.
Almost a case of "don't meet your heroes" with this one Chops! I rode a MS V4S a couple of years back and the Granturismo engine left me somewhat underwhelmed... almost as if they made 170bhp feel a bit pedrestrian! I guess the weight blunts the performance a little and if it was 30Kg lighter we'd be singing a different tune 😊
Simply stunning and worth every penny of its £28k in my book. Will never be able to afford one, but your video goes a long way to bringing the experience of riding that thing, straight to my phone! Simply brilliant. Thanks again for another superb upload.
SMT all the way. Had thought about the Pikes peak but will wait for the 990 engine to replace the 890 in a year or two. Tnx for clearing up my dilema. 👍
A brilliant intro to the pikes Peak. Well what you have portrayed to me is that it is most suitable for my type of riding, comfort, no worries about silly wheelies! And rapid A2B for the average rider (me) and like you said, it looks the absolute bollox…
@@LambChopRides now what do I do in 2024? Keep my R1250GS, or swap it out but what for? If so this is my list, The Pikes Peak, R1300/1400GS (what about the M too), M1000XR or the heavy K1600GT? Not easy is it!!? Panniers and comfort with some speed. Anyway cheers again for the superb vid. 👍👍👍👍
Love the video Chopsie. If love to see you test ride the New Multistrada RS. Omg it looks amazing and might just be the strada you were hoping to find in the pikes peak 😁
Interesting, thanks. We have test rides available in OZ, no problem. 240 is awfully heavy for this kind of bike, as you say. My KTM dealer also sells Ducati - was chatting to the salesman the other day and he remarked that he prefers the Katoom SA-S - more grunt, much cheaper. This review is why I always come back to your channel, mate - you are a straight shooter. No BS.
The Pikes Peak screams Gregorio. Most of your review focused on the bike. I would flip your script (which was centered on the motorcycle) and focus on the rider fit. As an example, at 13:10 "you just don't have ultimate confidence to put it right on it's side" says more about the rider than the motorcycle. I enjoyed your review. Gave it a thumbs up as I do to nearly all of your reviews. This one was an odd one. It almost seemed like you wanted the bike to be something it isn't...for example, a supermoto. There were other 'perceived' inconsistencies, but I'll leave it at that.
You sir Chopsie just sold me on this Ducati. Yesterday you almost had me on a BMW. I’ll be touring here in the states and I will be doing multi state crossing. I’ll need a set of panniers. Cheers❤
I saw this bike on EICMA and it looks aaamazing. So sexy, but the price is out of this world. I would be afraid to ride on British roads because it is so quick with all the high grass. When I tested the V4s on open mountain roads I felt like on moto GP. But at the end I ordered the KTM 1290 SAS. And the power is the same, and the engine and sound with Akrapovic, I like even more and the price is 1/3 less.
Had the v4s and toured Spain last year. Bike was faultless but only bought as couldn’t wait any longer on the pikes peak I ordered. Recently sold the v4s and bought a pikes peak and now I’ve had it , I’d happily take my v4s back as such little difference based on my limited riding here in norn iron. I think if I was to do Spain again on pp I would notice a difference . Great review choosy although comparing PP to an smt isn’t really a good comparison I feel. Surely the hint is in the name “super Moto tourer”. With the exception of Josh herrin, can’t see too many backing the pikes peak in lol . Keep up the great work and hope Kawasaki are all good with you as I’d love you to review the nex xxx 400 rr when it’s released
Good commentary LC and shame about the 360. I've had the PP for 6mths and a V4S for 6mths prior to that. I'm not sure what bike you were riding (perhaps a V4S with PP decals on) but when you ride it fast and hard (you didn't) then you will definitely notice the difference by a country mile. I'm 15-stone and mine definitely power wheelies in 1st/2nd/3rd when it wants to. I reckon you should take it round the track and then decide as a few country lanes won't differentiate between the two bikes. I also have the race exhaust on it (dealer fitted at new) which ups it to 180-hp with an 'EVO' mapping. Keep up the good work !
It was between this and an H2 SX for me this summer. I ended up going for the H2 because in my mind it's truly special but goddamn it was close. That V4 Multi is easily one of the best bikes out there.
I have a 23 pikes peak with the full akra and evo map and it pulls the wheel much easier than before the exhaust was installed. It wheelies over crests in 3rd and 4th gear if your on the gas.
Many years ago, I fancied a CBR1000r. I went to Dobles in Coulsdon on my GSX750 but they refused me a test ride. I went to Hamiltons in Streatham and bought a Thunderace instead. You are our test rides Chopsie along with 44T. Still loving my 1290SDR. Rocket 3r next
26k bike and they stick £2 reflectors above the Brembos, must be a better way, perhaps like Triumph. Good to have them when coming out of a side road or junction. Good videos as always Chops
I rode them back to back , and tbh the only thing that was very noticeable btw the V4S and the PP was the rider position . Personally I preferred the V4S, the PP feels slightly more sport position and somewhat more cramped, which on long rides you will notice . Spent the premium on fitting a full Ducati race exhaust system and remap!
I found one for rent in Denver Colorado USA. I’m flying out and riding a few days with friends. I can’t wait to ride it. I have a KTM 1290 SAT and love it for me
I owned a SFV4S and now a MTSV4S and i have been driving the PP twice now... (and back to back with the normal) It's a SF on high heals! All of the same goodies and adding some comfort. For wheely's and hanging on the side of the bike you need some more miles. Power wheely's are quite easy if you are more agressive on the gas... I find the 'standard' MTSV4S to weak in braking (replaced the pads for more stopping power) only then you feel how weak the suspension is. Ohlins on the PP is much better! I hope to get my hands on a occasion this winter here in the Netherlands because i can' t wait! One last thing... Put some M9RR or S22's on it and you will feel the endless grip is there.
Great review~ just joined. I love the fact that you always mention the level of heat that the rider is experiencing from the engine~ looks like Ducati got it right with this one.
@@LambChopRides And the 2025 is EVEN BETTER! The rear cylinder stayed deactivated up to 10mph so if you are just putting along in traffic, it stays cool.
Sounds like you didn't spend enough time setting up the modes. Should've put everything into minimal or off in race mode with the stiffest damping and max preload, and then seen what it's like. My front end happily comes up in lower gears with wheelie control on lower settings without even going full throttle or being abrupt with it, that is with the akra and that map for it. The differences in ergonomics (lower and more narrow bar, higher and more swept back pegs, grippier and more sculpted seat that is much easier to move around on and hang off) and front end feel are pretty significant between pp and v4s (I've tried sxr, v4s, 1200pp (that felt more like a big supermoto), 1260pp, sfv4s, diavel v4, sdr Evo (the most vague feeling suspension I've ever felt, rode nice though), and v4pp all pretty close to each other time wise). There is a significant difference in feel/feedback and agility. But then again the bar angle is adjustable, and so is the seat height. It's not as exhilarating/engaging/raw as my tuono v4 was, likely due to the body position and wind protection, especially when not ridden hard and fast because then it's more in the comfy putter mode, but it is so much more comfortable and happy to go slow when needed. Can't run away from weight in very tight and very twisty stuff, but otherwise it's as fast as anything out there, comfortable on the way to the fun road as well as exhilarating when really pushing it. The brakes are simply amazing too. I wish the bar was a bit more narrow and lower honestly, being more connected to the front would help. SXR (or MXR hueheuheu) or regular v4s is probably a better answer for 95% of the people.
Recently tested the V100s Mandello and loved it. I was thinking this might be a sportier contenter but I do love character in a bike and some rider engagement and the Guzzi seems to have bags of both. And for today's roads, if you want to keep your licence, there can be too much easy power of tap. I currenty own a Livewire one, lovely bike with top sports bike acceleration and handling, but it has been plagued by technical issues from the get-go!
the advantage I see with the MTS V4 PP is the tire selections available.. you can have a wheel set with sticky tires on Saturdays and touring tires on Sundays.... 😁😁😁
Great review , I got a v4s but still looking for a PP I did laugh as you said you’d not get one as not doing long trips as I chopped in a K1600 for the v4s as I wanted something lighter to Chuck around for local rides 😮 just enjoying it so much for local runs but when I chop in my Speciale the v4s will become a PP perhaps even a 2025 😅
Chopsy what another outstanding review you have done 👏. You have made my decision-making much easier, so it's not a matter of if, but when do I order the Pikes Peak. I tour around Europe each year and have done so for 16yrs, and I do not want the wheel coming up but do want the speed lol
Nice…. I’m. Duc fan at heart but my last 3 x bikes have been the XR. The latest XR is remapped & had full Akropovic system installed. I’ve added all sorts of goodies onto it & the bike is an absolute weapon. The price I’ve spent on it adds up to the sale price of the Ducati Pikes Peak. I would have loved to have gone back to my roots but I’m afraid the price couldn’t be justified. Too bad because the PP is a gorgeous looking bike,
Test rode one last week with the full system and there are some things that differ from what you’ve said. That one in 2nd gear going 35-40 mph, will nearly loop itself with wheelie control off. It’s on par with the Superduke I had. 1st gear power wheelies from basically a dead stop.
Mine ordered and due early next year, got a lot of add ons, including full Akro system, should sound nice. Cant wait :) Thanks for the great, and honest review.
I've still got a 2012 Multistrada 1200s. The only thing I'd like to have on it that I don't have is cruise control and semi active suspension (which can be added with an ecu upgrade). Dry weight is loads lighter than the following versions. It does feel like a big supermoto to me
Chopsy, are you sure you had the wheelie control turned off ?? I have the Rally and it wheelies like a bastard ! Even with the wheelie control on low it still comes up ! Wonder if the single sided swing arm on the PP is longer than the std model ? One point I will make regarding the rally, if you turn off wheelie control this in turn deactivates cruise control & blind spot detection, and illuminates a couple of annoying warning lights on the tft. I love the rally, great all rounder.
Thanks Chopsy, an amazing bike - almost too good!! I guess you want more sounds, a more virulent behavior, to make you smile more... haha! Just wondering what the nub is that is visible at the sump at 13:03 ... it seems very vulnerable. Anyway, I better watch to the end... LOL! PS - what about fitting panniers as a touring bike? Graeme, NZ
In June I bought a new Super Duke GT. The only other bike I was seriously considering was a Pikes Peak. In the end, it came down to getting the SDGT for $21k vs $33k for the PP. Maybe I should've sold one of my other bikes to justify spending the extra on the PP. Oh well. I made my decision, and I *love* the SDGT. It's such a hooligan bike, and I can put panniers on it when needed.
I’ve had a standard V4S with a factory lowering kit pull the front tire off the ground under just power plenty. Not sure why you’re thinking the PP won’t lift a front end. Just have to stay in the throttle more than you typically would for a bike like that
It might sound stupid, but if you‘re experienced and want a thing like that you can handle almost like a SM, then try the Multistrada V2S (or also known as 950s). This thing is as nimble as the Hypermotard but is a Multistrada.
I worry when doing wheelies is an important consideration. In the 2 countries I have lived in, wheelies will get your bike impounded and yourself into court quick smart. .. :(
@LambChopRides I have to ask cuz I’ve been asking different opinions and I know you have ridden both now, between this and the kawasaki H2 SX SE what are the biggest differences or features that u like of both I’m apart of the Ducati family with a 2015 Diavel Carbon but I want to go into the Sport Touring range now and this Pikes peak and SX SE are the 2 finalist. Please if u don’t mind if u could give me your opinion, PS. My first bike before the diavel was a Yamaha R6
“The backend looks like a baboon’s arse.” 😂 You don’t get that on any other channel. Until I want a couch that rides itself, give me the SMT every day.
My pikes peak has replaced my SF V4S and it’s a wheelie machine if you set it up, also good on track, we all have different riding views and just think the ride you rode seems not the experience I have had over the 7,000 miles I have done 👍
My local dealer has one of these just hanging about on the showroom along with a Street Triple Moto 2 edition. I don't know why they have not sold yet.
Been thinking about one of these to replace my 2022 KTM Superduke GT, a bike I really like (had a 2016 GT before). Main reason I want to change is the lack of KTM dealerships around Dorset, we lost Motocorsa last year and Holeshot a few weeks ago and I gather Trevor Pope may be closing so nearest now Bristol ! Do you think I would be disappointed with the Pikes Peak compared to the hooligan KTM ? I don't want to spunk a load of money on something I cannot test ride and may be disappointed with.
Did same--PP for the GT. The PP is THE two up sport tourer. The GT is really a Superduke, but: "Hey! Lets add windshield and bags and call it a sport tourer.". So it is. but the PP is tourer that is sporty--BETTER handing/ride/comfort to boot. not as raw and wild. "Creamy" is the word I use. Takes 20% less energy to ride and do miles on. Uses 20% more fuel (V4 thing....). Motor doesn't hit as HARD but I dynode both (PP has at the full race exhaust with Ducati Race exhaust mapping) and they is just 3-HP and 4-foot pound of torque between them. That is mostly down to the advance ride-by-wire nannies they are instituting--BMWs may be worse. Almost have to unlock the ECU and remove the partial thriottle nannies. My wife rates the PP a "10" from her view behind me, and the GT a "7.5."
Luggage yeah. But honestly man - you don’t need the heated seat. Cooled maybe! I’ve been out in all sorts of weather (freezing Scotland) and never once even thought about putting the seat on.
Nice review. It's a special bike but there's an irony I guess that they've made it so good it lacks a bit of engagement & seemingly has a computer game like detachment to it.
Great review , very honest and a good assessment of this bike when compared to the standard v4s. I am thinking of buying the v4s , and wanted to know how pikes peak might ride.this review is very helpful that way. I will probably test ride the new gt version which they have announced and take a call. 15 pc better comment was the highlight for me. My purpose is to do long distances comfortably and the gt might fit the bill. I am not into the super moto thingy but will test ride the smt too just to get an idea (currently have a tracer gt which is very light and nimble) thank you once again - this is my dream machine too . But looks like the standard or gt v4s should be good enough. Does the pikes peak have the rear cylinder de activation in the lower revs ?
There's only cylinder deactivation at idle in anything other than rally and diavek. The low rev deactivation is nearly pointless honestly because it's only under 4k rpm, so under 60 mph even in the 6th gear, only for around town riding if you keep it in a tall gear.
Bit of a coup to get your hands on this. I had the last of the V twins Pikes Peak and never gelled with it. Too much of a compromise for me. Good at everything it did not great at one. I sold it after I realised I hadn’t looked back at it after a ride or just polished it for no reason in the garage. Your point of lack of engagement sums it up perfectly. The first Ducati I’ve owned that I wasn’t passionate about or got up at 5 in the morning to go on it for no reason before the wife noticed.
hi......i'm another 6 foot plus, 20 stone older rider....looking for a comfortable fun machine, if you had about 6K which used bike would you consider?
I have one of these and struggle to get a wheelie out of it in the lower modes. But then why would I want to wheelie on a nice long country ride out. I also have a Streetfighter V4 SP and also struggle to get decent a wheelie out of it in the lower modes. On both bikes this is by design due to the engine configuration and the swing arm length especially on the Street Fighter. But in my opinion the Multi Pikes Peak is the pinnacle of what Ducati have done with a bike. And now to put a spanner in the works they've made an RS.
Great conclusion. Ducati should be applauded for creating the ultimate motorcycle. Quite a feat. But they kinda priced themselves out of the market. A market for motorcycles not spaceships.
15:28 "At the end of the day, there's no disguising 240 kilos" OR IS THAT there's no disguising 20 Stone? What made you keep the setting in rider +pillion? Did you try: rider only?
I have a v4s multi which is my fourth multi from the original 1200s, 1260s, then 1260 pp and the v4s is best ever, stunning bike. Not convinced the v4s PP is worth it over a v4s if I’m honest
I'm on a PP having had a Superduke GT prior--and the 1190/1290 KTM Adventure bikes before that. PP best over all these for pure road sport touring in comfort. I can take corners better, faster and more confidently--with less fatigue--ONCE I set the suspension up.
txs for another great review. It is on the shortlist as one of the candidates to replace the XR next year, when it hits 100k kms. I am very curious if it offers enough to warrant the price gap.
Good point. I’m on my 3rd XR now. My Gen 2 is remapped & full akropovic system installed. I’m waiting for the Gen 3 to hit the market & I dint think the Pikes Peak will even get a thought when this happens.
Ya truly scored a massive coup snagging this magnificent machine. I’m digging your style of a conflicted, yet honest review. Well done Sir, 🎩-Tip (be sure to rub it in to MissendenFlyer) ((all in good fun))
At some point I’m hoping there’s going to be a lucky group of people that put the Pikes Peak Multistrada vs the M1000XR on track and a cross country trip, and it is going to be glorious and I will be very jealous of their experience.
Ducati V4 wins hands down on the road, the M engine has insane top end but not enough low or midrange to make it fun on the road.
Would be nice if the V4 revved a bit higher, but it’s pretty close to perfect for road use in my opinion.
On track the M motor would kill it.
How do you know that, as I wasn’t aware the M1000XR had been release yet? That being said, the XR will be more uncomfortable I bet.
@@markx5 pikes peak Rs 😀
Realise people that one can't carry gear (as easily) on the M. It is not a quick XR as the touring capability has gone with no pannier fittings. The PP rules! Ridden both.
It was GS vs Pikespeak for me. Sept 4th was my pikes peak Anniversary. Done close 9k miles and am loving it. Last july in the middle of Colorado trip my pikes peak broke down with stone chip cracked one of the radiator(radiator guard is a must have). Rented GS for last 900ish miles and was really happy with my decision to go for Pikes Peak.
Like the way it revs, stable, turns, fit and finish. Tech is amazing. Adaptive cruise and blind spot monitor works perfectly. Finished ironbutt saddle sore 1000 two weeks back and adaptive cruise was a blessing.
It's fantastic I do agree! 👍
Im also own both, the PP is just way more fun....will probably sell my 21 GS
Im now looking for comfy adventure motorcycle and im woundering between pikes peak and the gsa1250 but i kinda lean to the pikes peak sadly today was raining like hell and i couldn’t try the pikes peak but i hope next week i will try both if i dont like them i will continue with my zzr1400zzzz
@@crazytrain7376 all the best. You must have gone through my likes mentioned in comment. while you ride pls pay attention to the slow speed ride comfort. PP Likes to stay at higher rpms.
@@HariNedunghat I just went to try it and it was blast and now i ride zzr1400 . Yeah with slow speeds was a bit like the big Z but i guess in touring mode would be much more comfortable in low speed.
No one kills a 360 camera like you. Good luck Chopsy 🏁
I'm impressed by your honest opinion about this bike, Chopsy, I thought you would be gushing about it.
Yeah I wanted to really love it, but just wasn't quite what I thought it would be. Think I over hyped it in my head 🤷♂️
Please stop apologising for being honest. Far too many uk journalists doing bike reviews who just love everything cause they are afraid of not getting another bike from the company. I rode one of these and thought the same. Glad you had the guts to say it is a good bike and a bit better than v4s but that’s it. I have a great Ducati dealer and got a test on it. Ended up buying something else (bmw m1000r).
Thanks buddy 👍
Best wishes, only pray for the engine not having some failures under warranty ( not kiddin', reports from USA and central Europe speak enough) 'cos the bavarian brand will refuse to cover them...! 🤔😁 Everyone has his own taste or preference, but tech specs and bikes engineering can tell about the difference between this bike and the others.
I ride a V2S with a lot less power and almost half the price, I love it because you can use all the performance on UK roads in comfort. Though I’d be tempted by a standard V4S (did test ride one) and I can afford one, the PP is just a rich man’s toy. I also hate the number on the side, to me it ruins the look, a Ducati should just be red😜.
Lol chops you weigh the same as me and the Mrs, my v4s is epic with my 10 stone dripping wet ,absolutely rips ,front is up on bumps and crests especially with the mrs on the back ,faster than anything I've ever ridden and I've had most sports bikes over-the last 30 years and nothing touches this on A road blasts ,love it ,expensive though .
Hey Chopsy. I love the channel, but have to disagree on this one. I had a V4S MTS and the V4S SF; I currently have the PP and a GSXR 1000 (L7). The PP is an incredible machine. Mine started to come alive at about 5000 miles and has the full Akra exhaust. I take it on track and run in the fast group (foot pegs, gear/brake levers and engine bars have all grazed the track - such is the grip and poise available). Dial off the WC and you can easily get the the front wheel heading skywards, as well as the rear under heavy braking. Not sure why you didn’t get the full PP experience, but it’s incredibly impressive.
100% x 100%
You’re definitely the best bike reviewer - I always come away feeling like I know the bike, and bikes I’ve ridden that you’ve reviewed, you’ve got them spot on IMO.
Thanks Chopsy
(Though I still prefer the SDR over MT-10 😂 )
I appreciate that! 👍
I agree with James. You are really good at the reviews. The SDGT is still the best for me
Very honest assessment Chopsy. It does look pretty damn good, definitely the best looking of that category 👍
It is, but that "#1" on the side is god awful...
This is what it looks like when the man falls in love with his motorcycle! Just great. I can feel every bit of the emotion in this video. Just great, than you for the great review of the Pikes peak!
I have this same bike. It’s the most important bike I’ve ridden … ever. The weight management takes time to trust. You can’t get that in one ride. I love the sound of the engine (not talking about the exhaust). The gas mileage is very low due to the V4. I also have the Diavel V4, and it’s worse than that. It’s an Italian Beauty on steroids.
Must be nice to be loaded.
You are lucky.
My V4s pulls wheelies in the first 3 gears without trying. Best bike I've ever owned, stupidly fast when you want it, yet soft and pliable too.
Mine does when you open it up, he is not getting to the top end of the rev range.
Loving my V4s sport … even more so having saved up for the race exhaust
@spiderdave5777 lucky boy, I'd love the full system. I have the akrapovic but it's not the full system. Rip off really 😪
@@BIGGGESTAL Agreed ! Saved for 2 years …. It’s well worth it if that helps 😜👍🏻
I am fortunate enough to own a Pikes Peak now (I started off with a V4S, then a Super Duke R EVO, now the V4 PP) and I can confidently say that this bike is the best for me compared to the rest because of how good it is at everything. Even though the PP has a sharper throttle than the standard version, I confirmed that there are still some significant throttle limitations on this bike. I went ahead and flashed the ECU and you seriously have to be careful in 1st and 2nd gear. Keeping wheelie control on 5 as opposed to off, the bike still comes up (but controlled due to DWC). Wheelies in 1st and 2nd gear are now effortless and you can absolutely loop the bike backwards if you’re not careful. The bike does not like clutch up wheelies though. That is due to a switch in the clutch lever that is sensing for the rider “dumping” the clutch where the bike cuts the power off even with traction and wheelie control off. Unfortunately the flash did not get rid of that but regardless, any Multi V4 + ecu flash is a WINNING recipe for a bike that will not disappoint.
Great video! Glad to see someone else that considers it as their dream bike. It certainly was for me.
I was looking at a GS or Multi, hired a GS for a four day ride and it was great, test rode a Multi V4s and it was incredible! Such an amazing bike, I’d have gone for the Pikes Peak but I need to occasionally follow my GS mates down some trails. Great review on the Pikes Peak!
Love your vids but I do own a PP and thought I would pipe in here for those interested in this bike. One thing that I think is important for people to know on pretty well all Ducatis is how they perform pre and post break-in. In fact, I've never experienced any bike that is so diff pre and post. Ducati builds in a limiter above 6k RPM during the break-in. After the first service it is like a different machine. I would agree about its lack luster vibe but only pre break-in. Once you get that first service look out. The engine is smoother, way more snappy and revs higher. I own a gen 3 Super Duke, 22 Hypermotard, Desert X and a few others so I have a good comparison stable. You can ride the PP as hard as a SD or any sport bike and it will give you what you are looking for. The PP is extremely engaging once you push it, lean it etc. It is more comparable to the BMW XR vs any other bike. I hope you can ride it post break-in and ride it like you stole it. I think you will find it is very engaging and will pull the wheel up very quickly. The great thing about the PP is that at ridiculous speeds you can hit corners and it feels like you could sip your coffee as well, the lower bars allow you to hang off and letter rip. No, it is not a Super Duke or Hyper but in a track race the PP would beat the SD and the Hyper and in total comfort.
Agreed, from that review he didn't really push on, that bike should be singing up above 8k all the time with that beautiful induction song.
And it's got pirellis shoes on, made for dancing with corners unfortunately choppsy chickened out🙊 hopefully he trys it again but actually rides it the way it's meant to be ridden then I think he would change his mind🤔
@@timmythetank 100% but I also understand why he would not be comfortable pushing a new and very expensive machine. I hope he gets another shot!
I was able to ride my PP quite a bit lately and definitely do not agree that it is sterile. It is definitely smooth and refined but I do believe Ducati didn't do this bike any favors by calling it a Multi-Strada, there is no "multi" about it. This is an upright race bike so they should have called it something like the race Strada or ultra Strada but it is not a bike for more than the street. I think people go in thinking it is an adventure bike and therefore, they ride them like an adventure bike. It needs to be ridden like a sport bike.
100 % everything
With that in mind it weakens the review....if you cant push the bike and find the sweet spots is it a review worth considering? No offense to Lamb Chop but if I had reviewed any of my Ducs within the first 1k miles it probably would not be even close to as favorable after 2500 miles. I know that is a big ask to reviewers because they are supplied new bikes typically so they can be first to do the review. My short review so to speak is based off of some real world miles and situations. Not gonna lie, there was a moment where I thought it was sterile.....that did not last. I really strongly believe that Ducati made a mistake calling this thing a Multi-Strada......by no means is that accurate and it is misleading....it should have been Uno Strada.....;-). This is no multi road vehicle in any way it is a comfy race bike. I added the taler seat and some risers and I find it more comfy than my GS on long trips and much more rewarding in corners, better tech and just plain supreme cool factor.
Almost a case of "don't meet your heroes" with this one Chops! I rode a MS V4S a couple of years back and the Granturismo engine left me somewhat underwhelmed... almost as if they made 170bhp feel a bit pedrestrian! I guess the weight blunts the performance a little and if it was 30Kg lighter we'd be singing a different tune 😊
Please try one after 2500 miles.....you will do a 180
Simply stunning and worth every penny of its £28k in my book. Will never be able to afford one, but your video goes a long way to bringing the experience of riding that thing, straight to my phone! Simply brilliant. Thanks again for another superb upload.
SMT all the way. Had thought about the Pikes peak but will wait for the 990 engine to replace the 890 in a year or two.
Tnx for clearing up my dilema. 👍
A brilliant intro to the pikes Peak. Well what you have portrayed to me is that it is most suitable for my type of riding, comfort, no worries about silly wheelies! And rapid A2B for the average rider (me) and like you said, it looks the absolute bollox…
Fantastic! I wasn't saying it was bad, it's bloody brilliant! 👍
@@LambChopRides now what do I do in 2024? Keep my R1250GS, or swap it out but what for? If so this is my list, The Pikes Peak, R1300/1400GS (what about the M too), M1000XR or the heavy K1600GT? Not easy is it!!? Panniers and comfort with some speed. Anyway cheers again for the superb vid. 👍👍👍👍
Love the video Chopsie. If love to see you test ride the New Multistrada RS. Omg it looks amazing and might just be the strada you were hoping to find in the pikes peak 😁
Interesting, thanks.
We have test rides available in OZ, no problem. 240 is awfully heavy for this kind of bike, as you say. My KTM dealer also sells Ducati - was chatting to the salesman the other day and he remarked that he prefers the Katoom SA-S - more grunt, much cheaper.
This review is why I always come back to your channel, mate - you are a straight shooter. No BS.
Great honest review Chopsy. Heard so much about this bike from other you tubers. Think you nailed it mate. 👍
The Pikes Peak screams Gregorio. Most of your review focused on the bike. I would flip your script (which was centered on the motorcycle) and focus on the rider fit. As an example, at 13:10 "you just don't have ultimate confidence to put it right on it's side" says more about the rider than the motorcycle.
I enjoyed your review. Gave it a thumbs up as I do to nearly all of your reviews. This one was an odd one. It almost seemed like you wanted the bike to be something it isn't...for example, a supermoto. There were other 'perceived' inconsistencies, but I'll leave it at that.
You sir Chopsie just sold me on this Ducati. Yesterday you almost had me on a BMW. I’ll be touring here in the states and I will be doing multi state crossing. I’ll need a set of panniers. Cheers❤
I saw this bike on EICMA and it looks aaamazing. So sexy, but the price is out of this world. I would be afraid to ride on British roads because it is so quick with all the high grass. When I tested the V4s on open mountain roads I felt like on moto GP. But at the end I ordered the KTM 1290 SAS. And the power is the same, and the engine and sound with Akrapovic, I like even more and the price is 1/3 less.
Had the v4s and toured Spain last year. Bike was faultless but only bought as couldn’t wait any longer on the pikes peak I ordered. Recently sold the v4s and bought a pikes peak and now I’ve had it , I’d happily take my v4s back as such little difference based on my limited riding here in norn iron. I think if I was to do Spain again on pp I would notice a difference . Great review choosy although comparing PP to an smt isn’t really a good comparison I feel. Surely the hint is in the name “super Moto tourer”. With the exception of Josh herrin, can’t see too many backing the pikes peak in lol . Keep up the great work and hope Kawasaki are all good with you as I’d love you to review the nex xxx 400 rr when it’s released
Good commentary LC and shame about the 360. I've had the PP for 6mths and a V4S for 6mths prior to that. I'm not sure what bike you were riding (perhaps a V4S with PP decals on) but when you ride it fast and hard (you didn't) then you will definitely notice the difference by a country mile. I'm 15-stone and mine definitely power wheelies in 1st/2nd/3rd when it wants to. I reckon you should take it round the track and then decide as a few country lanes won't differentiate between the two bikes. I also have the race exhaust on it (dealer fitted at new) which ups it to 180-hp with an 'EVO' mapping. Keep up the good work !
It was between this and an H2 SX for me this summer. I ended up going for the H2 because in my mind it's truly special but goddamn it was close. That V4 Multi is easily one of the best bikes out there.
If your choice was SX SE, than you have best of the best now. PP is more trendy , SX SE is more performance
Supercharger. Now that's truly special.
I have a 23 pikes peak with the full akra and evo map and it pulls the wheel much easier than before the exhaust was installed. It wheelies over crests in 3rd and 4th gear if your on the gas.
Many years ago, I fancied a CBR1000r. I went to Dobles in Coulsdon on my GSX750 but they refused me a test ride. I went to Hamiltons in Streatham and bought a Thunderace instead. You are our test rides Chopsie along with 44T. Still loving my 1290SDR. Rocket 3r next
26k bike and they stick £2 reflectors above the Brembos, must be a better way, perhaps like Triumph.
Good to have them when coming out of a side road or junction.
Good videos as always Chops
I rode them back to back , and tbh the only thing that was very noticeable btw the V4S and the PP was the rider position . Personally I preferred the V4S, the PP feels slightly more sport position and somewhat more cramped, which on long rides you will notice . Spent the premium on fitting a full Ducati race exhaust system and remap!
I own the V4S and sometime it makes me feel i'm the passenger and with the PP it feels more if i'm the one that is in control...
Great video from what's fast becoming an Insta360 snuff channel. You've cooled my ardour a bit for the Pikes Peak!
Haha yeah it is!! Down to one now 😫
Nice Chops, finally got your hands on one. I know you've been talking about it for quite some time. It's beautiful.
Indeed it is! 👍
I found one for rent in Denver Colorado USA. I’m flying out and riding a few days with friends. I can’t wait to ride it. I have a KTM 1290 SAT and love it for me
I owned a SFV4S and now a MTSV4S and i have been driving the PP twice now... (and back to back with the normal) It's a SF on high heals! All of the same goodies and adding some comfort. For wheely's and hanging on the side of the bike you need some more miles. Power wheely's are quite easy if you are more agressive on the gas... I find the 'standard' MTSV4S to weak in braking (replaced the pads for more stopping power) only then you feel how weak the suspension is. Ohlins on the PP is much better! I hope to get my hands on a occasion this winter here in the Netherlands because i can' t wait! One last thing... Put some M9RR or S22's on it and you will feel the endless grip is there.
Great bike.,don't drop it👍
Great review~ just joined. I love the fact that you always mention the level of heat that the rider is experiencing from the engine~ looks like Ducati got it right with this one.
Thanks very much Mikey 👍
@@LambChopRides And the 2025 is EVEN BETTER! The rear cylinder stayed deactivated up to 10mph so if you are just putting along in traffic, it stays cool.
Comes alive with the full akro, and a lot more playful over crests in the road 😜
Quality honest review as always chopsy....Nice one mate 👍🏻
Sounds like you didn't spend enough time setting up the modes.
Should've put everything into minimal or off in race mode with the stiffest damping and max preload, and then seen what it's like. My front end happily comes up in lower gears with wheelie control on lower settings without even going full throttle or being abrupt with it, that is with the akra and that map for it.
The differences in ergonomics (lower and more narrow bar, higher and more swept back pegs, grippier and more sculpted seat that is much easier to move around on and hang off) and front end feel are pretty significant between pp and v4s (I've tried sxr, v4s, 1200pp (that felt more like a big supermoto), 1260pp, sfv4s, diavel v4, sdr Evo (the most vague feeling suspension I've ever felt, rode nice though), and v4pp all pretty close to each other time wise). There is a significant difference in feel/feedback and agility. But then again the bar angle is adjustable, and so is the seat height.
It's not as exhilarating/engaging/raw as my tuono v4 was, likely due to the body position and wind protection, especially when not ridden hard and fast because then it's more in the comfy putter mode, but it is so much more comfortable and happy to go slow when needed. Can't run away from weight in very tight and very twisty stuff, but otherwise it's as fast as anything out there, comfortable on the way to the fun road as well as exhilarating when really pushing it. The brakes are simply amazing too. I wish the bar was a bit more narrow and lower honestly, being more connected to the front would help.
SXR (or MXR hueheuheu) or regular v4s is probably a better answer for 95% of the people.
Recently tested the V100s Mandello and loved it. I was thinking this might be a sportier contenter but I do love character in a bike and some rider engagement and the Guzzi seems to have bags of both. And for today's roads, if you want to keep your licence, there can be too much easy power of tap. I currenty own a Livewire one, lovely bike with top sports bike acceleration and handling, but it has been plagued by technical issues from the get-go!
the advantage I see with the MTS V4 PP is the tire selections available.. you can have a wheel set with sticky tires on Saturdays and touring tires on Sundays.... 😁😁😁
Yes absolutely 👍
Great review , I got a v4s but still looking for a PP I did laugh as you said you’d not get one as not doing long trips as I chopped in a K1600 for the v4s as I wanted something lighter to Chuck around for local rides 😮 just enjoying it so much for local runs but when I chop in my Speciale the v4s will become a PP perhaps even a 2025 😅
Boy I love that bike. But because of chain drive I will stick with my R1250RS. But man I love the PP
Chopsy what another outstanding review you have done 👏. You have made my decision-making much easier, so it's not a matter of if, but when do I order the Pikes Peak. I tour around Europe each year and have done so for 16yrs, and I do not want the wheel coming up but do want the speed lol
Chopsy, thank you for helping me with my purchase which will be with me this Friday when I collect from MotoRapido Winchester 👏🏻 super excited
Nice…. I’m. Duc fan at heart but my last 3 x bikes have been the XR. The latest XR is remapped & had full Akropovic system installed. I’ve added all sorts of goodies onto it & the bike is an absolute weapon. The price I’ve spent on it adds up to the sale price of the Ducati Pikes Peak. I would have loved to have gone back to my roots but I’m afraid the price couldn’t be justified. Too bad because the PP is a gorgeous looking bike,
Great review Chops. Top notch bike that for me will be just a dream .
Test rode one last week with the full system and there are some things that differ from what you’ve said. That one in 2nd gear going 35-40 mph, will nearly loop itself with wheelie control off. It’s on par with the Superduke I had. 1st gear power wheelies from basically a dead stop.
Mine ordered and due early next year, got a lot of add ons, including full Akro system, should sound nice. Cant wait :) Thanks for the great, and honest review.
Oh very nice! Will sound awesome with the full system 👌
I have it with the full akra system, what a machine what a machine also just did evo tech tail tidey
I've still got a 2012 Multistrada 1200s. The only thing I'd like to have on it that I don't have is cruise control and semi active suspension (which can be added with an ecu upgrade). Dry weight is loads lighter than the following versions. It does feel like a big supermoto to me
Love ur content! If u only can have have one bike and u have to chose between this pikes peak or the latest 1290 superduke gt?
Hi Erik, I would take the PP over the GT 👍
Chopsy, are you sure you had the wheelie control turned off ??
I have the Rally and it wheelies like a bastard ! Even with the wheelie control on low it still comes up ! Wonder if the single sided swing arm on the PP is longer than the std model ?
One point I will make regarding the rally, if you turn off wheelie control this in turn deactivates cruise control & blind spot detection, and illuminates a couple of annoying warning lights on the tft.
I love the rally, great all rounder.
If I was not watching the video from the exhaust note I would think it was a Ducati sport bike.
Like you say though Chops on a long ride this is the bike you want. Ride with in it's limit's smile enjoy. It'll probably grow on you.
Thanks Chopsy, an amazing bike - almost too good!! I guess you want more sounds, a more virulent behavior, to make you smile more... haha! Just wondering what the nub is that is visible at the sump at 13:03 ... it seems very vulnerable. Anyway, I better watch to the end... LOL! PS - what about fitting panniers as a touring bike? Graeme, NZ
In June I bought a new Super Duke GT. The only other bike I was seriously considering was a Pikes Peak. In the end, it came down to getting the SDGT for $21k vs $33k for the PP. Maybe I should've sold one of my other bikes to justify spending the extra on the PP. Oh well. I made my decision, and I *love* the SDGT. It's such a hooligan bike, and I can put panniers on it when needed.
I’ve had a standard V4S with a factory lowering kit pull the front tire off the ground under just power plenty. Not sure why you’re thinking the PP won’t lift a front end. Just have to stay in the throttle more than you typically would for a bike like that
It might sound stupid, but if you‘re experienced and want a thing like that you can handle almost like a SM, then try the Multistrada V2S (or also known as 950s). This thing is as nimble as the Hypermotard but is a Multistrada.
I worry when doing wheelies is an important consideration. In the 2 countries I have lived in, wheelies will get your bike impounded and yourself into court quick smart. .. :(
@LambChopRides I have to ask cuz I’ve been asking different opinions and I know you have ridden both now, between this and the kawasaki H2 SX SE what are the biggest differences or features that u like of both
I’m apart of the Ducati family with a 2015 Diavel Carbon but I want to go into the Sport Touring range now and this Pikes peak and SX SE are the 2 finalist. Please if u don’t mind if u could give me your opinion,
PS. My first bike before the diavel was a Yamaha R6
“The backend looks like a baboon’s arse.” 😂 You don’t get that on any other channel. Until I want a couch that rides itself, give me the SMT every day.
Love that thing! Great, personal, review - as always 👍
The new M1000XR would give this a proper run, I hope at least
Yep, it sure will
Lovely machine Chops ,great review as always. 😊👌
Nice review Chopsy ✌
Hello
What do Say now when u drive the bmw s1000 xr from the trip from Garmisch
Pikes peak better still?
For me MXR is the one out of the two.. This is amazing of course but M pips it for aggression 😎
@@LambChopRides Thanks
An against the normal s1000 xr what are your opinion
how does the ducati v4 compare to the aprillia v4 ??
My pikes peak has replaced my SF V4S and it’s a wheelie machine if you set it up, also good on track, we all have different riding views and just think the ride you rode seems not the experience I have had over the 7,000 miles I have done 👍
I agree about the downside of the V4S ride. You cannot lift the wheel and feels like your riding the shocks instead of the road. Great coverage
My local dealer has one of these just hanging about on the showroom along with a Street Triple Moto 2 edition. I don't know why they have not sold yet.
My local Ducati dealer has a 2023 on the floor and can’t get rid of it. $32k is a lot for a bike here in Texas. I’d kill for one,my dream bike.
Been thinking about one of these to replace my 2022 KTM Superduke GT, a bike I really like (had a 2016 GT before). Main reason I want to change is the lack of KTM dealerships around Dorset, we lost Motocorsa last year and Holeshot a few weeks ago and I gather Trevor Pope may be closing so nearest now Bristol ! Do you think I would be disappointed with the Pikes Peak compared to the hooligan KTM ? I don't want to spunk a load of money on something I cannot test ride and may be disappointed with.
Did same--PP for the GT. The PP is THE two up sport tourer. The GT is really a Superduke, but: "Hey! Lets add windshield and bags and call it a sport tourer.". So it is. but the PP is tourer that is sporty--BETTER handing/ride/comfort to boot. not as raw and wild. "Creamy" is the word I use. Takes 20% less energy to ride and do miles on. Uses 20% more fuel (V4 thing....). Motor doesn't hit as HARD but I dynode both (PP has at the full race exhaust with Ducati Race exhaust mapping) and they is just 3-HP and 4-foot pound of torque between them. That is mostly down to the advance ride-by-wire nannies they are instituting--BMWs may be worse. Almost have to unlock the ECU and remove the partial thriottle nannies. My wife rates the PP a "10" from her view behind me, and the GT a "7.5."
I’ve had mine a year , great bike ❤
Great review chops it looks amazing and sounds amazing but...26k+ 🙁. I was in Pompey on Saturday was looking out for you 🤣🤣
Next time! 😁👍
But does it have a petrol gauge….. 😂 Bike looks amazing. Great review as always!
As much as I love pikes peak I’ll probably end up with Touring or Rally unless I can negotiate some heated seats and luggage for the peak in the deal.
Luggage yeah. But honestly man - you don’t need the heated seat. Cooled maybe! I’ve been out in all sorts of weather (freezing Scotland) and never once even thought about putting the seat on.
@@andytasker79 I don’t but to make wife happy I do. #1 rule in buying fun toys
Beautiful looking and colour scheme is stunning, £ 26000 😮how much 😢
Top quality as always LCR!
Nice review. It's a special bike but there's an irony I guess that they've made it so good it lacks a bit of engagement & seemingly has a computer game like detachment to it.
Great honest review chops stunning looking bike though👍
Every bikes your perfect Motorcycle Chops, just buy them all😅
Great review , very honest and a good assessment of this bike when compared to the standard v4s. I am thinking of buying the v4s , and wanted to know how pikes peak might ride.this review is very helpful that way. I will probably test ride the new gt version which they have announced and take a call. 15 pc better comment was the highlight for me. My purpose is to do long distances comfortably and the gt might fit the bill. I am not into the super moto thingy but will test ride the smt too just to get an idea (currently have a tracer gt which is very light and nimble) thank you once again - this is my dream machine too . But looks like the standard or gt v4s should be good enough. Does the pikes peak have the rear cylinder de activation in the lower revs ?
Thanks glad it was helpful 👍 not sure on the rear cylinder deactivation sorry.. might not
If you want sport DEFINITELY go for the PP.....the quickness side to side is unparalleled. One of the best bikes I have ever owned.
There's only cylinder deactivation at idle in anything other than rally and diavek. The low rev deactivation is nearly pointless honestly because it's only under 4k rpm, so under 60 mph even in the 6th gear, only for around town riding if you keep it in a tall gear.
For long distance I’d get the rally model, only way to achieve decent range.
@@markx5 is around 200 miles not decent enough for you?
Bit of a coup to get your hands on this. I had the last of the V twins Pikes Peak and never gelled with it. Too much of a compromise for me. Good at everything it did not great at one. I sold it after I realised I hadn’t looked back at it after a ride or just polished it for no reason in the garage.
Your point of lack of engagement sums it up perfectly. The first Ducati I’ve owned that I wasn’t passionate about or got up at 5 in the morning to go on it for no reason before the wife noticed.
hi......i'm another 6 foot plus, 20 stone older rider....looking for a comfortable fun machine, if you had about 6K which used bike would you consider?
I have one of these and struggle to get a wheelie out of it in the lower modes. But then why would I want to wheelie on a nice long country ride out. I also have a Streetfighter V4 SP and also struggle to get decent a wheelie out of it in the lower modes. On both bikes this is by design due to the engine configuration and the swing arm length especially on the Street Fighter. But in my opinion the Multi Pikes Peak is the pinnacle of what Ducati have done with a bike. And now to put a spanner in the works they've made an RS.
Another 360 gone. Need a t shirt chopsy haha 🤣
Is that the desmo engine or the spring valve engine?
Aside from perhaps the Britton V1000 it's hard to imagine a more beautiful bike than this PP
Great conclusion. Ducati should be applauded for creating the ultimate motorcycle. Quite a feat. But they kinda priced themselves out of the market. A market for motorcycles not spaceships.
American ones, for sure. Perhaps not Indian ones. Govt. Spaceships, that is. 😉
SMT KTM and there reliability issues! I would go for a Hypermotard 950 SP.
I have both the PP and the Hyper SP. Covers it!
You havent use the quickshifter or did I miss something? Put it on track on racemode and you'll release the beastmode! ;-)
15:28 "At the end of the day, there's no disguising 240 kilos" OR IS THAT there's no disguising 20 Stone? What made you keep the setting in rider +pillion? Did you try: rider only?
As you said--then: Add electric preload to rear spring and set rear spring damping ONE click firmer than front end.
@@tomtraynor5384 Agree. He mentioned "wafting" multiple times in video. My take-away was he didn't have the suspension setup correctly.
Wow what a machine, yr a lucky man lamb chop
Yes I am! 😁👍
I have a v4s multi which is my fourth multi from the original 1200s, 1260s, then 1260 pp and the v4s is best ever, stunning bike. Not convinced the v4s PP is worth it over a v4s if I’m honest
I'm on a PP having had a Superduke GT prior--and the 1190/1290 KTM Adventure bikes before that. PP best over all these for pure road sport touring in comfort. I can take corners better, faster and more confidently--with less fatigue--ONCE I set the suspension up.
How did you set up your suspension ?
@@jimasful Touring set a "hard" damping; Sport set at "medium" and Race set at "soft". Raised forks about 10mm into the triple clamps.
txs for another great review. It is on the shortlist as one of the candidates to replace the XR next year, when it hits 100k kms.
I am very curious if it offers enough to warrant the price gap.
Good point. I’m on my 3rd XR now. My Gen 2 is remapped & full akropovic system installed. I’m waiting for the Gen 3 to hit the market & I dint think the Pikes Peak will even get a thought when this happens.
Ya truly scored a massive coup snagging this magnificent machine. I’m digging your style of a conflicted, yet honest review. Well done Sir, 🎩-Tip (be sure to rub it in to MissendenFlyer) ((all in good fun))