Adventure Bike vs Superbikes | Ducati Multistrada V4 Pikes Peak at Silverstone GP
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Imagine being on a Panigale and some bloke in a flamingo 1 piece on an adventure bike flies past you 😂
😂
Anyone who's got a suit in your face as much as that has to be fast 😂
Or got passed by some dirt bike conversion Supermoto
@@SourCandy436 on Silverstone 🤣
And then ending up on youtube
Baron leaving black lines on the exit of corners on an adventure bike is very cool.
Well that didnt disappoint! Cant wait to try it 💪
Can I i just say that the opening edit on this was amazing. The motorbike equivalent of a garand thumb entrance 😊
What’s that opening song ? Love it.
Rewind, yep, 👍
Awesome day, thanks for showing me round the track! I've never seen an adventure bike shift like that before!
Was so much fun following you around and maybe holding you up on my Hyper.. even I managed to overtake a few Pani’s 😂😂
Great to see Sue smiling and humiliating a few pannies along the way! Happy days! 👍👍
You spelt fannies wrong 😉
It seems the engineers at Ducati have a sense of humour to build this bike, it looks like a hoot to ride
Would love to see a M1000XR vs V4 Pikes peak shootout!
This is surely the business case to put the proper panigale engine in it 😉
@@mikey_bb Too much power for what is essentially a touring bike. Having the 36,000 mile valve service interval is much more important on a bike like this.
@@ilmostro16 anything over 120bhp is arguably 'too much power' for 99% of street bikes 🤷🏽♂️ do people who sink £30k+ into a motorbike really care about service intervals? Nah. Plus, they won't be using it for big miles will they? It'll be a garage queen doing less than 2k miles a year 🤣
The M1000XR will be a big seller, just like the M1000R/RR have been, so Ducati need to just do it & stick the proper Panigale V4 engine in it...
Awesome test Chris! Funnily enough I’ve been chewing over what to get and you have summed it up big time here! Best of both worlds!
Loved this test! I'm surprised that even the raciest setting couldn't get it from pumping quite a bit. I mean it's heavy, but it's also "only" ZX7R heavy. Great riding, so much fun to watch you passing the superbikes! I really hope you'll get to test a M1000XR on a track in the not so distant future!
Wonder if he went INSIDE the settings and added "firmness" to the rear shock race settings--and/or preload? I also hear you can disconnect the rear shock--and have dealer adjust rebound firmer independent of compression--for example. I feel mine could use that adjustment as well. Rear "oscillates" over bumpy corners with some pace.
Chrissy looks well pleased with himself at the end there 😂
Good work
Brilliant, absolutely effin Brilliant! You, your riding, your presentation, the bike, of course.
Have followed you guys for a long time, all great, but for me , this one is best I've seen you do, to date...
Please continue.
Was looking forward to this. Didn't disappoint, pp hard.
Loving your work. Bikes not too shabby either 👍
Great to see, thanks 👍🏁
Those multis are insanely capable on the track, although having seen one high side and get completely totalled at PI, if you can afford one you can probable afford a track bike that’s better and cheaper to wreck too lol.
Looking forward to a shootout between the Pikes Peak and the M1000XR
Came here to write this! I test rode a Multi then went for the XR as it was miles ahead. Pikes Peak is almost 20k more than the XR assuming the M will be closer so the match up should be good 👍
@@r32gtr68 Same. I test rode a Multi then a XR and the XR won me over. I didn't test ride a Pikes just because it's absurd what Ducati is currently asking for those bikes $$$. I have it decatted and tuned with some M series options and it's one of the fastest bikes I've ridden in the canyons. It just slices everything up with such little effort. I can't imagine how fast the 200+hp version with sportier suspension is gonna be.
The bike is comparable to the standard S1000 as it makes around the same wheel hp. The only thing the multi is very noticeably better at is high speed cruising and overall stability and comfort in a touring setting.
The multi is an amazing bike but the pricing is absurd and borderline unwarranted.
idk about the actual ride quality since I've only ridden the Multi v4S. But I would prefer the Pikes Peak solely based on the looks. I wish BMW kept the old XR design then there would be anything left to consider.
@@hanhien1783 I own the old xr. The new one has a noticeably better chasis, along with the sitting position being much more friendly for when you want to push.
It's not so good if you r behind is on the larger side. But then again mostly nothing is.
The multi is also better chasis and handling-wise compared to the old xr out of the box.
However its geometry can be altered with a suspension expert and through trial and error to a very decent point.
Also both versions of the BMW semi active suspension are underwhelming, and their design choices regarding it are a bit too budget oriented.
An oscillated squat………..the mind boggles Chris. Great video. 👍
Cracking into, great vid 👍 👌
Loving the vids by the way, u guys rock ❤❤❤
Great video! Love the intro
I agree with everything Sue said as i have done a couple of trackdays on my much older Multistrada. Turn up after a long ride there, take off all the panniers etc to set up camping kit then stiffen up the suspension and drop the tyre pressures but i use normal touring road tyres not super sticky stuff. Its a laugh on the bike and capable of more than i can throw at it as Ms Perkins showed honking around at the pointy end of Fast group as i can only manage Inters on shorter tracks. Good stuff Chris and good to see you smiling again and clearly enjoying things
Fun there and the way back
Another banger of a video Baron ! Would be interesting to do the same with a S1000XR ! Btw that Araï helmet looks so good ! Is it custom or an official special edition ?
Thanks Chris for posting this much anticipated video! Would it be fair to say the rear 60 Supercorsa SP was a 200? Stock is 190/55.
That rubber laying thou😳😳🔥🔥🔥🔥good stuff
What song is playing in the beginning of the video?
And…, Great test!
Love the editing on this video - especially the “Wah Wah” when Chris is in the paddock 😂😂😂
"a bit like a wasp at a picnic"! LoL!
4:35 “It would be nice to see a desmo engine in it”.
Two months later 😃
haha, they listened!
Saw some of these in the pits at Pikes Peak after the race this summer. The guys had ridden from Austin and looked like they were having a very good time
Would you say its better than the new s1000xr ? Just asking as I have the 2015 s1000xr and not sure whether to get the the new xr or test ride the ducati ?
A 44Teeth Video published 30 seconds ago, made my day!! 🙂
Excellent, great vid.
Awesome looking bikes
Wicked video 🤙🏼 these adventure bikes look so comfy & so much fun, but my little legs could never ride one 😅
its actually got a pretty low seat height at 840mm and is only 5mm taller than a Panigale V4 😊
@@FortyFourTeeth haha I have a 28” inseam, 790mm is the max I can handle. That extra 5mm for the Panigale tho, I’d risk it 😝 my dream bike!
Outstanding intro 👍🏼 👏🏼
The design on the suit is ace!
You can’t be pissing a few people off now and again 😂😂
What was that song at the beginning!! 🔥
Intro was sweet
How good are modern bikes 🙌🏽
Big ADVs are pretty incredible and this one is clearly top of the heap for this kind of thing. Great riding Chris, and thanks for sharing the great story. I can only imagine how many trackday riders queued up behind that thing expecting to dispatch it on corner exit, only to see a big black stripe on the pavement and a machine clearing off into the distance. I'd bet the torque on this thing would keep most track bikes honest up to a buck fifty, plus or minus. Edit after a second watch - the corner entry and mid-corner shenanigans were tops, as well!
Well that's not my experience in trackdays. If i see someone on a ADV or a slick 250cc/ 400cc, i know somethings on. But honestly, nobody cares about doing an ADV in the corner or entry or exit, everyone is riding for themselves, gaining and testing their own skills.
@@p-jan5747 Of course everyone is riding their own bike. But it's literally impressive to watch Chris ride that thing around other riders on perfectly good and properly sporty machinery.
Can't wait to see how it compares to the M1000XR
The flamingos are my memorizing.😂
"Only if it's a Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak" - Laughs in BMW M1000XR
I remember being at Oulton years ago and Neevsey melted me on one of the old Pikes Peak bikes. There were a lot of people with egg on their face that day!
Great content! - Loved the intro song anyone know it?
What is the lap times?
Question, I see a sf v2 wich I own now but I'm interested in the v4 PP, how is the difference between these two bikes? Will I miss the SF?
Intro was sick as fu*k!
Brilliant video, been doing this for a few years now on my last KTM 990SMR, however, is the Multistrada PP V4 really an "adventure bike" and not a Supermoto with it's 17" wheels?
Agreed, to be "adventuring" it also has to be able to go offroad (at least a gravel road) and the Multi V4 PP has the same road condition limits a Ducati monster/hypermotard has. Its just a comfy Streetfighter V4S.
Rode my v4 pp on Hockenheimring and only can agree... you need to spend some time for the settings but for anything else happens on the road the installed riding modes urban, touring, sport and race are absolutly perfect. Never want to sell this bike again as well as my vfr 800 🥰✌
Any chance to get the name of the introduction song?
That looked fun
I've noticed on hard cornering in the canyons it seems like the frame twists when I hit a bump. Ill try firming up the rear suspension and see if that helps.
What is the music? I kind of want to listen to it on my own bike now
So far so good !!! I have a Pikes Peak 2023 and had a Panigale V4SP 2021, can’t wait till the end of your amazing video 😛
I m owning a pikes peak voor 5 months now and 8k km's further. I m a fast track rider (and i know how to setup bikes with suspension) and i want to share some suspension settings with you guys (if you are going to buy this one day) (i m weighing 98kg with full suit/shoes.)
(Street riding)
Touring:
DTC 1
ABS 2
DWC Off (if you use cruisecontrol you need to put this on 1, otherwise traction control will not work)
Front / rear supspension on medium
Preload 11
DQS on
Sport (for trackriding):
DTC 1
ABS 1
DWC Off
Front / Rear suspension: Harder
Preload 12 (to much preload will destroy the rear tyre) (you can up max to 13 or 14 if you want it more on the nose, but rear feel will lack)
DQS On
I do not comply with 44teeth about the brakes. the front brakes are terrible. to much movement in lever until it brakes (bleeded it 3 times/changed fluid to brembo lcf) and it will never be on point. I changed to the Brembo RCS19 brake pump with Z04 brembo pads (and changed the discs to Motomaster Racing 5,5mm) and now it s as it should be for such a expensive bike.
To two things that are really terrible is the brakes as i said and you can not clutch wheelie the bike due a strange radar/clutch connector that soon as you touch the clutch for pull in it engages the Wheelie control (even when it is on OFF). I m trying to work with ducati for a solution, but they are arrogant and do not react or help the customer out.
Rest of the bike is very good.
V4t4teeth love. The right leathers for such exotica, strudles and flamingos. Beauty!!!
not taking anything away from the bike because its a beast…all things being equal a fast rider on a slower bike is usually faster than a slower rider on a fast bike
I have a 2014 Multi 1200 and have done a bunch of track days on it. Yeah it's compromised and there are better track bikes out there, but it's still pretty damn good. I can't wait to try it with Supercorsas though
Faster than an S1000XR around a track? I'd love to see a race!
I think the XR is much faster on track, it's more orientated to sport rather than adventure,unlike the v4 multi,or the old 1200 multi at that
@@TheCvac yeah that’s what I was thinking. Wait until the M1000XR comes out. Should be lethal around a track
I've had both. Pretty evenly matched on the track. On the street the Pikes Peak is the better bike. More torque, more comfortable seat, and you can't beet the Ohlins.
Supercorsa SP are very good. Allegedly SC3 compound on the sides and the transition is quite high up on the tyre. Apparently. Nice riding. You must have been extremely and satisfyingly annoying for everyone getting passed on Panigales. 😂
Damn Guys that Intro!
Chris, I keep thinking you're wearing Christmas wrapping paper 😂
The M1000XR might have something to say about this when it's released!
intro Song please!?
AWESOME AMAZING SUPERB TOP ! ! ! ! !
Whats that intro song?
Funny that reminds me of a practice week tt back in day marshal's caning the dogs baws out a honda pan Europeans to check the track was a rare site😂
When you placing an order then Chris?!
I’d love to know what times you were doing on that lump around there. No racing for you? I seem to recall you were getting your license? Apparently you are quite fast these days… Has Al got that competitive edge?
God damn lads . These edits are "The Shit" 🔥
How tall are you pair please because you always make the bikes look small. Your Brill love watching. ❤
song?
There was a guy on a Mutistrada in full ducati leathers riding peak to peak highway in colorado last month he wasnt ripping it up too much traffic but I was suprised !!
God i love your britishness. Down to monaco for a celebratory curry & chips 🤣
Great vid, love the track work.
Not sure I really get the point of an adventure bike like this though?
These bikes are for lads that love their sport bikes but need a bike that can tour, take 2-up with luggage, look good and then still take to the track when they've crashed their track bike...thenone bike that does it all...well that's why I bought one, no need for 3 diff bikes in the garage anymore
Ciao bella, mozarella. Love it.
I will own another Ducati someday - there's just something so enticing about the brand
I wonder how this would compare to a K6/K7 GSXR750 on super corsa’s…
The fucking INTRO THOUGH!!!! Haven't even made it a minute in and I'm looking for the redline.
tune please?
haha properly hates the knob cheese from visor down 😄
Just watched this and now seen they’ve set up a desmo V4 PP. who did Chris blow to get that?!
Great watch, end of day, riding someone else's bike is easy than your own. I was much faster on a master class on r1m. Than me on my own bike..
Chris, you have done more trackdays in 6 months than most of them, in there lives. So yes you will be faster lol .. 👍🏼👌🏼
M1000XR next!
It's not quite the same a man wearing fruit-stripe gum driving and adventure bike at Silverstone, but at my last track day there was one guy riding an Indian FTR in the advanced group like he stole it, and another on a Kawi Vulcan with suicide bars. Both were getting their knees down too. Wild to see, but made it a lot of fun to watch!
2:02 that'd be Deimante tomboy 🥰
Only a couple of seconds in but as soon as I saw the caption, knew this is the video I’ve been waiting for! Remember seeing this on your insta and immediately felt excited for this drop 🎉
Great review, I am lucky enough to own one, and I have to say it's probably the best road bike I have ever had (arguably better than a superbike on the road), but on race track it's hard to compete against a Panigale (or any other superbike)
I recently got one and I’m experiencing the same wobbles. Are you getting the same?
@@JQiRamosI'm curious, Is it wobbling in a particular mode or setting, or speed when on hitting bumps, straights or on turn transitions, etc?
@@jr.6199 For me the wobbling only happens mid corner at a high speed and continues as I accelerate out of the corner. I agree with Chris that this bike will likely benefit from a stiffer rear spring. I've tried all riding modes with variations of Front:Hardest/Rear:Hardest or Front:Softest-Hardes/Rear:Hardest and noticed that I could never get rid of the wobble, just reduce it. I also lowered my front forks (more fork protruding from the triple tree head) by a total of 15mm (measured from the start of the gold fork tube) and noticed more improvement but I figure that the way to truly fix this is a combination of: Stiffer rear spring + stiffer rear damping vs the front + higher rear preload + lowered forks.
I'm contemplating contacting Ohlins to see if they sell or plan to offer stiffer spring rates for the Pikes Peak.
I previously had a Multi V4S with spoked wheels and this was never an issue so I am genuinely surprised the the sportier variant performs worse.
@@JQiRamos Thank you Juan, this is so valuable. I'm assuming the SAG is set correctly for static and your rider weight, at the start before changes (if that is even possible on the Ohlins) and wondering if you tried changing tires or rebalancing yet? Also has the dealer service center been involved and working this under warranty.
I've read on other forums that you need to drop the forks just a bit to get rid of the wobble of lessen it considerably. @@jr.6199
Hi mate great video , has anyone mentioned you look like Howard from the mighty Boosh?
Or Daniel Levi from Shitts Creek
Ciao BELLEE, MOZZARELLEEEEE
Now for a three way sports tourer track showdown - KTM Superduke GT vs Pikes Peak Vs Kwaker H2SX.
Are you putting down those black lines on exit or it’s there already?
Laying down black lines on a Multistrada. Go on lads.
That intro was on fire
Curry and chips in Monte Carlo?! 😲 Seriously?! LOL
Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak pr BMW M1000XR?
Watching this and laughing out loud at the bit where you talk about how mental is would be to put a panigale engine in a multi...with the RS now whipping around.