These Are The Best Rally Stages In A Game !
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I subscribed because of this epic comment. Haven’t even seen the video yet
just because you said you love rally simulators, (wich wrc is not really).
No, I subscribed after watching your previous WRC Generations video (liked this one too). I had been subscribed before that, but have... been away for a while.
How in the world can you be so articulate and well-spoken while at the same time driving like a pro?
The secret is he doesn't drive like a pro, not even when he's silent.
he cheats lol, he uses the screen icons and colorization of them so he doesn't have to listen to the co-driver so much, a true rally fan doesn't play with these type of driver aids as it's not a real interpretation of rallying, yes I'm being picky but what I'm saying is factual.
@@jaytoppo1670 Real rally driver depend 200% on co-driver notes. What are you on about lad?
@@jaytoppo1670 you could use your point equally in the fact that rally drivers seldom talk let alone try to form articulate sentences into an entertaining narrative for a TH-cam video. I'd say visual co driver aids are acceptable whilst speaking over the top of your actual co driver lol. Also by only using the icons, it's actually more of a disadvantage over listening. The audio notes provide more detail and don't require your eyes to do as much work.
Probably he did the stage like 10 times before recording🤣
Hard to agree more with something - love the stages in WRC Generations, and there's also plenty of them too!
144! Its amazing
Nice driving, and I agree about the stages. Fantastic! Looking forward to your FFB guide.
As you mentioned most rally games have wider roads to make it "easier", but in real life, combined with the rocket engines in Dirt series, you just accelerate to 420 km/h in each little straight and the physics engine just gives up. In reality it makes the completely opposite effect of what it's intended for. Narrow roads with realistic traction keeps the speeds down and makes it much more manageable.
I've thought the same thing playing dirt u just wind up flying at top speed way to often compared to actual rally
I was watching you drive very quickly, around a very narrow rally stage, whilst chatting away to us like it was nothing!! My jaw is firmly on the floor and my hat is very off to you Sir. Very impressive.
Great content by the way too lol.
stage wise, the only other game that you can put this against is a fully modded RBR, but rbr has its own issues running on a modern pc and modern wheel.
we really need to put the physics and modability of RBR into a modern engine.
I suggest you take a look at rally mods for Assetto Corsa. Some of the stages are ported from RBR (e.g. Semetin, Hradek & Liptakov, Gestel, Peklo etc.) and there are lots of others that are of tremendous quality. This includes a 40km Monte Carlo stage which tremendously epic to drive. It can be somewhat tricky to find all the mods and stages because they can't be found in one place which is the case for RBR nowadays.
There's also a fully-customisable co-driver mod and also voice packs for AC to make it even more authentic. The full AC package with well-developed car and stage mods is better than any other rally sim on the market. Mind you, AC rallying only focuses on tarmac though. You can drive gravel stages but the physics were never meant to cope with loose surfaces so it's not exactly enjoyable on that. However, I prefer tarmac over any other surface so I'm extremely happy. It's a modern tarmac RBR.
@@void_snw been saying that since 2003 when I bought the sim on it's release day.... never a truer rally sim since, all that has followed has been pants really...
I use RBR for VR. Great experience even with original stages.
WRC series is very underrated. I hope they will continue with maybe a different license, like ERC or similar. They at least tend to take care of WRC gen for months to come. Nice video Gamermuscle 👍
An American rally game would be fun with Travis' Subaru, Ken in his Hyundai or Focus, Barry McKenna's Fiesta or Skoda and all the other random cars from different classes. Everything from 90s evos to the Subaru BRZ. Would be fun.
The WRC series of games truly are a labor of love to me. Most amazing stages I've ever had the experience of blazing through in any rally game since RBR. 10/10 would roll my Celica into Argentina's sharp rocks again.
Loving this WRC:G content!
wrc generations is a game every rally fan should own. It is fantastic.
Completely agree on the narrow widths that was one thing Ioved about Mobil 1 Rally Championship back in the day. You could even strategically hook your wheels into the gutter. One for a retro vid?
Mobil 1 Rally Championship -my first rally game!
Same! Mobil 1 was my first, loved it
Ive driven nearly all RSF ( RBR Mod ) stages and i coudnt agree more. Also, i cant stress this enough: WRCG has the best FF of modern sim rally games. With proper tweaking youll have something really fun. I transitioned to WRCG after a really long RBR run and the feel was similar and my reaction times were almost the same. I think this is something to be noted. NOT SAYING WRCG HAS BETTER OR SIMILAR FF. Just saying the feel we got from the car is good and feels authentic, to the point where i could easily drive as fast as i can in RBR, without the need to "adapt" to a new simulation/physics. I don´t know what that means and i don´t intend to start a simwars here, but in my books its a WIN to Kylotonn.
also it has good tarma physics too almost close to rbr mod.
I'm confused. Do you want to say that WRCG beats RBR in realism and simulation?
@@jahshjahsh2002 he is saying that while it’s not quite as “Realistic “ as RBR(with mods) the transition wasn’t difficult, as KT uses a lot of the design choices. And the FF is hood enough that when he switched over he didn’t feel like he lost that much from rbr
@@iamzuesthisisthetruth8864 Exactly!
I agree totally theres no better "sequel" to RbR then Wrc Generations. Whatta Masterpiece and immersion. 🎉
Completely agree with this! Dirty Rally stages feel like they were created with a program that just randomly generated them.
huh? They're all based on real rally locations and roads in Dirt Rally, WRC is not which is why they're much more varied in shorter distances. It's almost a best-of from locations. th-cam.com/video/eaQowHKgyyo/w-d-xo.html etc it's not 1:1 but it's close
Randomly generated? Like real roads...?
You do know they're almost 1:1 replicas of actual roads right?
dirt so boring
.... Ai generated like EA WRC. Ugly af😂
Dirt Rally 2 has stages that attempt to recreate real life stages, whereas WRC stages are based on real life stages, without attempting to be identical. I agree that this leads to more variety in WRC. This is unique to rally simulation as we all strive for 100% recreations in our track racing sims.
DR2 doesn't use real stages either, I'm not sure where that came from (I think Codies actually made that claim). The longest stages of every rally in DR2 are shorter than the shortest stages from the real life rallies. Both the Kylotonn games and the DR games use stages based on real locations, they just have a different way of compressing the details into shorter stages.
DR has real stages. You can find them on real maps with coordinates and everything.
Sweet Lamb in DR is 9.9km long. The last time it was used in WRC (2019) it was 25.65km long. So either it's compressed, or they cut out everything except for the bit right around the stadium section.
@@jasonmoyer Codemasters in DR2 take a portion of the real word stages, using photos rather than GPS, not all stages, but some, i believe spain and US were from the Dirt 4 create a stage, with a few mods, Only Seb loeb Rally i believe used GPS data for its stages.
@@jasonmoyer they use real roads/locations, not real ACTUAL stages from WRC or anything... th-cam.com/video/eaQowHKgyyo/w-d-xo.html
They have parts of what may be used in real rallies but nothing official.
As long as you're willing to put the graphical fidelity in context (it's almost 25 years old after all), I'd say the best rally stages were Mobil 1 Rally Championship, especially since it's the only rally sim that used real stages without mods. Imagine those stages updated to 2022 spec and put into something like RBR or WRC:G with dynamic weather and so forth.
Yup, the stages are it's shining quality for sure.
WRCG has THE BEST STAGE DESIGN of all-time in rally games. Now confirmed after EA WRC has been out for a week. WRCG stages keep you on edge and after a really tricky section i find myself saying WHEWWWW out loud at myself. Incredible sense of tension and reward after nailing those sections.
Have to agree, great stage design. Love the narrow roads and the attention to detail.
Only thing missing is the spectators in the road from the days of the Group B racing. Art of Rally did a good job of having the spectators move out of the way at the last minute.
Yes. GRAN TURISMO 4 also have spectators jumping out of your way on the rally stages. I would love to have this on modern WRC games.
@@l30S3UX Cool. I wasn’t aware of that game. Only played a little bit of the first one and now GT7.
they are lovely
Hello James,
the bests realistics stages are in Dirt Rally because they're based on REAL stages.
Nha..
They introduced some adjustments to the old stages so they have a better flow now. The new Sweden rally is epic. the only problem I had was to find the right balance with the ffb settings, but I'm almost there. It's a very funny rally game
The tweaks to the existing stages + the improved tarmac grip = hilarity. I fired up Grdanjci from Croatia to see how the cars drove now, since I knew the WRC10 version like the back of my hand, and it took a minute to realize I couldn't take 2/3 of the stage flat out anymore, even in the WRC3 cars.
Mr. GM, first of all I want to state that the stage design in the past few WRC games is fantastic.
However, it's important to note that they are 95% fictional with the remaining 5% being iconic sections everyone knows (e.g. massive jump before the finish in Portugal). The stages in DR2.0 are 1:1 recreations of stages which are run in real life. The New Zealand stages from DR2.0 combined, were actually used in this year's WRC event.
Because the stages are 95% fictional, the developers have a lot more freedom to add variation into their stages when it comes to the road surface or the environment. If you want to stick to authenticity, like the devs from DR2.0 did, that freedom is very limited. Personally I prefer authenticity over fictional but I do admit that KT Racing did a fantastic job in that regard.
Also, the German stages in WRC Generations are also the ones with the most extreme (for lack of a better word) level of variation. Not many locations have that much of variation to them as German vineyard stages to be honest.
When it comes to the width of the roads, I respectfully disagree with you. Driving flat out over the bumpy and very narrow sections in Poland makes your blood rush through your body. Argentina has plenty of very narrow and tight sections between rock faces. Scotland's roads are just slightly wider than the car itself. Greeces has long stretches of very narrow roads too, as does Sweden and Monte Carlo. Sure, in certain locations the roads might be somewhat wider than they are in real life but the same thing applies to certain locations in the WRC games.
In regards to Germany for example, you can't compare the ones in DR2.0 to those of WRC Generations. Rally Deutschland is a very unique event due to the fact that they drive on two to three completely different areas each with their own characteristics. I would've preferred the vineyard stages in DR2.0 as well but they went with the iconic Baumholder military area where they usually compete on Saturday in real life.
To wrap up my comment. What are your thoughts on the adjustments made to the physics compared to WRC 10? I know that the changes are based on the new regulations regarding the hybrid Rally1 cars but their adjustments also affect all the other cars. Personally, I believe their changes to the physics are a genuine step backwards compared to WRC 10, especially when it comes to the other car classes such as Rally2. I properly loved they way they feel in WRC10 but now with WRC Generations, I'm not a fan anymore.
This 1,000,000x!!!!
1:1 recreation of stages is way more desirable for rally fans and simracers. You could also mention what you've said in your review of Ypres in WRC10 and what they missed compared to real event.
But overall in my opinion KT did terrific job designing those fictional stages. I absolutely get your point about creative limitations when going with 1:1 approach. To be fair though, DR2.0 also misses some characterics about real stages. If you take Poland for example, there's could be more surface changes like brickroads in villages. Also trees and shrubbery are often even closer to the road. Which doesn't necessarily mean the road is narrower but the sensation is different.
I guess that going fictional might've worked out better for KT Racing than if they had tried recreating real life stages. Firstly they could squeeze more variety in shorter stages/smaller map. Secondly they dodged another point of realism comparison to the Codies.
I hope to see your full review of WRC Generations soon. I can't wait to hear your take on the physics.
@@BrokeBoyDom I'm working on a first impressions video. Due to work I don't have much time on my hand for designing and the YT channel. That video will be less extensive as the full review in many ways. The script is ready but time is limited and I don't have much energy left after a full day's work. 😅
But again, those videos are planned. The first impressions video will discuss physics for one.
too much realism is boring
This is one of my favorite rally stages in all available rally sims, the stages are the sole reason I play WRC games. Other aspects of the game still needs a lot of work, however the stages are spot on
Dirt Rally 2 is literally real stages though lol
Awww was hoping to get to watch the replay of that stage, looked amazing. is there no actual 'in the seat' view?
I can't imagine how much time is put into these stages. Making a single rally stage is very unforgiving with how much detail you have to put into while also ensuring the stage both feels good to drive and looks like a proper stage with realistic environments. So much work and detail may be put into an area that you blast past in 150kmh in a few seconds. RBR have a similar feeling in terms of detail. Compare that to a curcuit track (which also obviously requires lots of effort) where you will do endless amounts of laps on.
Hello GM, yep, these are the best, most beautiful, most immersive, most challenging and most FUN stages in any rally game, it has a RBR vibe to it. Plus, when you add in the level of variation across over 20 locations, Snow , gravel, tarmac, the training tracks, challenges and the career mode, sheer sense of speed and the FFB, I will be driving on WRC 8, 9, 10 and Generations for years to come. Cheers.
Great video, and a great game, I love it, I think Japan stages look awesome, what are your top 5 stages?, ...thanks, Chris.
Mr muscle of gaming. I must say wrc generations is the best one they have released. And your right about stages I just hope they patch teh throttle glitch/bug ASAP.
I like the WRC stages, but I more into the real base stages from Dirt and the best part they have track deformation.
Youve neve play Generations.. if you will youll conpletely forget Dirt 1 and 2
@@AlexlucianMoaca This is a joke right?
@@Werferharfer play wrc generations dude. Real weight to the cars, realistic d'amare and dynamic weather.. the closest gameplay to RbR you can get.
Dirt 1 and 2 short stages Ai generated.. bad tarmac phisics and overall a ... videogamy esperience.. only PRO : car roaster and engin sounds.
@@AlexlucianMoaca dude, I played every single WRC game from kyloton and thou it was fan, they don't even come close to the Codemasters rally. There is no track degradation, car sound are terrible, cars have no weight and they look bad.
You can have fun with them, they are easier to play. But they don't have any kind of real drivers feedback, in the Codemasters John Armstrong puts direct input in the game. You can notice the difference between DR 1 and DR 2 when he got in the company. But at the end , what count is fun. If you like the kyloton games , it's fine.
@@Werferharfer i will pick up Wrc Generations any day instead of Codemasters videogames.
Try to do trail braking :) I play this for about 5 min. Physics ok until u don't want to help yourself with left foot braking or do a power slide. Then car is like without tires for me
Dude, the road is not that narrow. It's pretty much 2 cars wide. Your FOV is like 120. When you do the Uturn I am getting vertigo from the warping due to how wide your FOV is. This is what makes the road narrow and the sensation of speed twice as much. I am not gonna lie tho the stage design is pretty amzing.
5:25 that car is totally flying though
The only thing I can hope for is true triple screen support
Show us please your ingame force feedback settings.
Can't stop playing 😁this has bass shaker support too👍
Dirt and Dirt 2.0 made me hate tarmac in rallies. But i almost love the tarmac stages in this game more than the offroad stuff which i never thought was possible. Real edge of your seat driving. Also impressed with the codriver calls being pretty spot on. In my first few hours i've only met two or three questionable pacenote calls
If you try RBR you will be addicted to the Czech tarmac stages, trust me.
Just subbed and just got the game, loving it but havent a clue haha
I don't see the issue with Dirt Rally 2.0's stages, they're narrow enough... not quite as narrow as real life but they're all based on real roads/stages. WRC stages are almost too narrow given how dodgy the side of track physics are, if you clip the tiniest thing it will send you flying. Snow bank physics are bad too, Dirt Rally is a good middle ground. Stages like Germany are just based on a different location to WRC.
"Gamer Muscle lost 2 minutes on special stage 6 with a misaligned Chakra."
WRC 10 has great stages, but these look even better. Going to have to pick this up on PC. I got FF working ok on WRC10 but it's not great. Hope they can update or otherwise improve/ fix the FF in WRC G.
if the sound was even half as good as the stages it would be amazing. The disparity is huge and I hope they fix it up somewhat, would be a shame to leave it like this. Road noise is completely absent! Classic cars in particular sound horrible.
I was a Dirt Rally/Dirt Rally 2.0 die hard and would swear by them for the longest time, and still believe they are superior in some ways. - But after getting a wheel & pedals setup I’ve come to the conclusion that the WRC games (WRCs 9, 10, Generations)are overall superior games.
I’m very tempted to get this.
Hopefully Codemasters will have a look in this video for their next rendition.
What set up is this? your car seems very stable!
This is the main reason why I dropped Dirt 2.0 in favor of WRC
Just take Spain / Catalunya stage design. Dirt has so many weird placements for objects on the side of the road, while WRC feels like an actual real life road, including better geometry.
Great video
Yes! The stages are very nice modeled with much care for detail. My impression however was that the roads are a little wider than in DR2. 😅 I like the game very much but i get stutters on my i7 12700k, 32gb 3600, 3080 12 gb system. I am now running it frame-capped to 60 fps and dlss balanced on a 4k monitor at 1440p dsr. It looks okay but is not as smooth as DR2. I think thats a real bummer… Maybe you could make a video about performance optimization since you also got oled c1 monitors. I think many people would be interested since the sometimes laggy performance seems to have been a problem since WRC 9. Keep on drinkin yor tea and kindest greetz! 🤟
I have 10700kf and only 2080, no stutters runs mostly butter smooth 60 fps on 1440p with dlls, might be cause it is frame capped but it is a shame that you cant use super high fps mode.
Too much power lol Joke aside minimum requirement is an 2nd gen i5 ,maybe the e-cores messed up something as the game apparently not build to use as many.
is the game on a nvme ssd or a hardrive? wonder if that matters.
I've read somewhere that the game runs better in DX11.
@@pinkimo_ Pretty much every game in my pc started to run better when i upgraded from a 1700x to a 10700kf. 10th gen and 5000 gen ryzen gave us smoothnes tech i believe. Even when 1700x was not bottlenecking 2080 it did not run as smooth as with 10700kf.
had to hit the subscribe after you just killed that stage whilst acting like you were taking a casual drive with some mates
Great driving
The NEw Zealand Stages (long versions are some of the best) but i'm bias to NZ lol
"I explain Why WRC Generations has the best rally stages In a game since RBR ! -" But even RBR has VR ! And it's from the stoneages.
Thank you for not using immersive co driver in this video.
GmM. Fired up a cuppa of Earl Gray for this. I look at all the details - as I can only drive Really slowly, because the game won't let me set, change setting mouse only works sometimes. Can't change sliders in settings. Can't change on keyboard that I have. ??? Give me a clue big guy/ a fix.
Use keyboard to change settings mouse is a bit buggy on some menus at the moment. To be honest if play with a gamepad of I didn't have a wheel as it works nice with a gamepad 👍
Switched to a full size keyboard, had to set ffb on my Fanatec wrc wheel. No settings for my 144hz monitor though.
Cool gameplay
YES
Yo Mr muscle. I’ve updated all my drivers and dlss and reflex are greyed out in the menu.. 😢
👍
I think some detail might have been lost in filtering settings
My opinion mirrors yours on this game. Generations is incredibly indurated by some.
Kyloton have always made great tracks, it's just a shame they have never driven a car or ridden a motorcycle...
I remember thinking it was cool that in Colin Mcrae 2 they put little variations in the road texture, like with the patches in the road in France. This is a slight step above that.
why dont you create a Club where we race against each other? you can set weekly stages and so on !
I massively agree with this video. I have every wrc game from 7 onwards. The stages are amazing and I just enjoy lasting through these at speed. It's so fun, it's immersive, it's exhausting, but it'd exciting and realistic. I love a track sim as much as the next man but I can't stop playing these wrc games. When they took a year out between 7 and 8 the game changed completely. They built something awesome and incrementally improved it. The game is built by people who love rally, for people who love rally. I will be buying generations less for the content and more as a thank you to the developer for these amazing, amazing games. Eyes down for dlc, poor physics and the all new 'Rally driver life' mode where the driver can use real world money to buy new trowels for there garden shed. EA if you do your usual on WRC as you have done with F1 I won't buy it I will stick to these. We have enough great rally content to last a long time so please, I explore you, listen to this video and don't make a mess of the new games!
EA won't meddle in the gameplay aspects of the game, nor will it affect how the physics of the cars will be shaped. It's the DiRT Rally dev team which will be behind the project and develop it. EA might force the devs in a certain way regarding monetisation but that's it. Sure the monetisation could be annoying. However, I'm pretty convinced the devs will strive for simulation and when that's the case, I won't care about monetisation because I'll be enjoying myself too much driving.
@@SimsRacingDesign that's a good point and yes dirt rally is there as a base for a good Wrc game, but we have been down this road before with EA and I won't rule anything out until I've seen the finished product. They are a company where nothing is off the table. When your focus is on moneterisation and not the player base anything is possible..!
@@michaelphillips1095 I get where you are coming from, I really do. However, I have faith in the DiRT Rally dev team who will be responsible for the WRC game to deliver an incredible game and decided to be optimistic because of that rather than pessimistic due to EA being involved in some way or another.
@@SimsRacingDesign But this doesn't help much unfortunately, first DR was on the right track, there was passion and commitment behind it, but as it always happens, DR2 was made for more casual audience, with downgrades to physics and tracks, aso. Codemasters are just as capitalistic without EA, and have always been.
@@ussassu DiRT4 was a downgrade from DR. DR2.0 was aiming to get back on track towards simulation which it did in my opinion. They did make changes to the physics and some of those were for the better whilst others were not. They are fully-aware of what's good and what isn't when it comes to the physics and handling from DR2.0. And I'm sure they'll find a way to come up with something better than ever before.
Any development studio has a capitalistic mindset. Otherwise they would go belly up almost instantly. In order to survive as a company, they need to make certain compromises. Prime example being Warthog, who were behind RBR. Within the year or so they filed for bankcrupty and disappeared.
It's commenting time
Realistic stages?! How are the hairpins in Monte Carlo real when an everyday car cant take them without entering the opposite way at 10 km/h. RBR and DR have real stages.
I have a theory about the wide stages in Dirt and most other Rally games. I always thought maybe it was because the physics model isn't tight or responsive enough to allow enough car control for narrow stages at speed.
In Dirt games the physics seem to be kind of floaty, especially with lateral grip. If the stages were narrower, it would be very hard to keep the cars out of the walls since they're slower to respond to inputs and slower to rotate and also slide around so much laterally on the surface.
Maybe that's why CM put in that annoying game mechanic where the edges of the track always seem to artificially pull you farther off the track, even if it wouldn't IRL. It was really bad in the snow IIRC. And that's the reason why you try to stay in the center of the road all the time, not to avoid the walls, but to avoid that artificial force pulling you farther off road. That's not realistic or fun.
WRC games physics feel like they're running at a faster rate (not sure if actually is) , and the cars feel super responsive and rotate quicker compared to Dirt physics, at least that's my impression. Who knows.
Or dry grass acting like super wet slippery grass.
If it's floating you want, there's plenty of that in the WRC franchise as well to be honest. The adjustments to the physics made for WRC Generations, makes that even more noticeable. The cars are constantly gliding and sliding when you push the car to its limits.
DiRT Rally doesn't always have wide roads though. All the stages are more or less 1:1 recreations of real stages. In certain cases the roads might be slightly wider than in real life. However, driving flat out over the bumpy and very narrow sections in Poland makes your blood rush through your body. Argentina has plenty of very narrow and tight sections between rock faces. Scotland's roads are just over a car width wide. Greeces has long stretches of very narrow roads too, as does Sweden.
Some of the road edges in a few locations are measures to prevent people from taking huge cuts as far as I'm aware. However, when it comes to the snow banks in Sweden, they work similarly as in real life in a way. You can use the snow banks to your advantage but when you hit them too hard or your nose gets into contact with it, your car will be sucked into the snow. Plenty of video footage out there that proves it.
@@SimsRacingDesign I haven't purchased WRC G yet. Looked over the steam comments and reviews.. I might wait and see if they fix the sounds at all and the FF, and the braking before I pick it up. I have WRC 10 on PS5 and PC and the physics model seems so much faster and responsive in just about every way from Dirt Rally 1 and 2, especially car rotation.
I do not think the way the physics model pulls your car to the walls in dirt especially is realistic at all. And it's way over done and simplified in the snow. It's just annoying and feels fake and wrong to me. I've driven a million miles IRL and triple that in sims and that's some kind of artificial game mechanic and no one will ever convince me otherwise. Just IMHO.
I like Dirt Rally in spite of that though, in a lot of ways more than recent WRC games. I still have the entire WRC10 campaign to do so not in any hurry to buy WRC G. I hope they polish it up because those stages are seriously impressive.
I have issues with the steering settings, it seems like a huge dead zone in the steering with my CSL_DD. I set everything to 900 degrees but I input a lot of steering with little movement of the car.
Just run wheel at lower degree from the game , it's a taboo to do that but it works great with loads of games and ironically often makes things closer to real cars I have driven.
I think some Sims tend to have too slow of a steering rack or people run slow steering as they are basing things on what road cars are like.
The only real downside of running incorrect ratio is that at times it can distort FFB and how linear things are.
Real cars you can just run different steering rack ratios as well if a driver wants faster or slower steering.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Thanks, I always felt bad if I ran anything besides what available data was out there for a specific car so I didn't until this title.
it is getting better but for me it is not even come close to the stages of Mobil 1 Rally Championship, it had extremely small roads and very long stages (some over 30-40 minutes) and not having to repeat each time the same and same and same stages for years and years in WRC, it is really time that each stage is totally different, not just 1 stage and butcher it in pieces to say we have many stages... no they have 1 stage for each country and sometimes a special one. The good thing is that this time we have more countries.
well man made track of Dirt Rally 2.0 vs real life track scan version of WRC generation, the quality different of course is night and day
have you tried beamng with the rally mod? i think that is the best rally simulator you can get atm
This is the last time a WRC game gets a pass although not making realistic one to one stages that are identical to the real roads and built on Bing maps and photo grametary, it's fine for now to only base the stages on Google Maps before soon everything should be laser scanned when the technology gets cheaper and faster.
are you a wrc commutator
Wrc generations might just be the best rally sim out there, I mean I've never played Beam NG, but one thing is for sure, WRC generations at least imo is better than Dirt rally 2
nah, it's not. Stages are better though DR2.0 has some better like Finland. Sound is HORRIBLE in WRC. Cockpit is horrible. Still weird frame pacing even at high FPS. Classic cars look and feel cheap compared to Dirt, and sound utterly disgusting. It's still a fun game with controller...
Dirt Rally/Codies has such a higher ceiling... can't wait for their effort. Neither are close to RBR RSF as a proper rally sim though.
Off topic, but I had a dream where I was watching a stream of yours and you were like 60 years old with white hair… what is wrong with me?
I think the latest WRC games are the best in terms of stage length and variety of environments. But I feel that Richard Burns Rally and Rallisport Challenge 2 beats WRC on road layout and road design. The stages in those games are a lot more technical. You have to set the car up before you arrive at the corner. The narrow roads in WRC are overdone. You can't do a Scandinavian flick if there is no space. In the WRC games I don't see any deep ruts, potholes or negative camber corners like RBR and RSC 2 Also the jumps in WRC are very poor compared to RBR and RSC 2.
RSC 2? Really? The roads are like 3 car lengths wide in that game
@@Guerilla_G Yes. There are some wide roads in Rallisport Challenge 2. But there are narrow roads too especially in Sweden, Monte-Carlo and the Hill climb courses. RSC2 has a great variety of everything roads surfaces and corner types. The car is always moving around so it's not easy. The best stages in WRC is easily Sweden where you have to link corners together and there is wide and narrow sections. A lot of the stages in WRC have long 5th & 6th gear roads with a hairpin at he end. Not many long radius 3rd or 4th gear corners or corners that opens or tightens on exit. WRC is weak on corner variations. And the cars are too stable. I haven't seen anybody lose the car landing from a jump or barrel-roll the car because of a bump in a corner.
It is curious that I find DR2.0 more difficult than WRC games even though the stages are more wide. The problem is that physics and the stages don't flow together. I couldn't enter the zone like I enter in WRC games. It's like the cambers of the road don't make sense or aren't diverse enough and the corners are boring and repetitive, and like you said the stages themselves aren't diverse enough.
I'm not hopeful for what Codemasters will bring to the table! They are very bland and corporative this days. The stages of DR fell more proper in Sega Rally and I bet Sega Rally stages had more soul to it.
I'm pretty sad that the WRC license is going to Codies after Kylotonn have really started making brilliant sims. I'm worried come next year we'll have the Dirt 4 style airstrip roads to facilitate casual players, plus a massive downgrade to the physics from DR for Codemaster's first WRC game.
Okay, the stages probably play well but are the visuals better than the previous efforts? Those were plagued with terrible aliasing and bad overall performance.
No the visuals are terrible imo
@@kribz4576 people who say the game looks terrible must be blind. I have no other explanation.
It looks OK but everything overly sharpened and contrasted in my opinion. It's still too bright in my opinion as well. Then there's the problem where at a certain distance point everything goes from being in full-focus to completely out of focus (blurry).
I do have to admit that they have done a great job with the graphical optimisation. I rarely encounter any frame rate issues, stuttering or screen tearing in WRC Generations. Glad they managed to sort it out in the end.
game has DLSS now so it's smooth as
@@SimsRacingDesign Overly sharpened? Use DLSS then and set it to 0.5 If you're using TAA and sharpening then it will look crap. Turn off depth of field too...
I wouldn’t be expecting much from EA while it had the WRC license, they will just turn it into pay to win somehow
Still no VR support 😢😢😢
It's cure that people think codemasters not gonna put this in a blender with massively wide roads and a metric fuckton of mtx's
Hay codemasters never ruin games 👀
Codemasters won't do that. The DiRT Rally dev team will be deciding on how the game will look and feel handling-wise. EA might meddle in the monetisation aspect of it but when it comes to gameplay, physics, graphics, audio etc. it's the dev team who decides and not EA.
If the game is tremendous to drive, I won't be even slightly bothered by whatever monetisation is there. I'll be having too much fun enjoying the gameplay.
If they always put this much effort into their games they probably wouldn´t have lost the license 😅
Mobil 1 Rally Championship game entered the chat. This but nothing compared to the 30km+ realistic stages in a 1999 game.
Stages will be as accurate in WRC than in Codemasters primarily Kiloton has a WRC licence..
The stages in the WRC games are 95% fictional with the remaining 5% for iconic parts of real stages. DiRT Rally 2.0 has 1:1 recreations of real life stages.
KT Racing can make them as challenging as they want because they are fictional. DR2.0 remains faithful to the actual stages run in real life.
I know that for a fact as I live in the middle of the area where the Ypres Rally Belgium is held and I know the real stages like the back of my hand. Other people I know who live in the areas where other WRC events are held (Croatia for example), say the exact same thing as do drivers who compete on most if not all WRC events.
Was hoping he went to the leaderboard 😞
...but no VR?
Does this title support triple screen?
not proper triple supported, it stretches like dirt, but the hud can be moved around so you can have your speedo and progress on the center screen
@@PS3DEADMAN69 meh, then it's another worthless game to me. Thanks for answer!
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You're not so rally fan without handbrake and shifter mate
The real question is. what were you really playing while talking and racing? 🤔
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It's extremely naïve to expect anything decent from Codemasters, especially now that they're owned by EA, even before that, they only made games that made most profit, just like DR2. A lot of the choices there are made for casuals, and it's soulless. All surfaces is the same preset tweaked a bit.
The original RBR does have VR support.. Just saying.. 😅
This is good and all but it's not a real rally game unless Phil Mills is sighing at me in disgust.
unfortunately, WRC stops at 10 for me, too much of the same old same old Jay, not enough real new.... amazing what a bit of polish sells...
Dirt Rally is a really good rally sim with arcade tendencies. WRC is a simple arcade game on rails. It looks beautiful, but it is terrible to drive.
It's literally opposite. (except it does look beautiful)
Yeah ok, but the thing's pointless anyway, since the game doesn't support VR