Came here to defend the game because I've been having a lot of fun but every point is accurate and annoying, great review. Throttle bug needs to be fixed ASAP.
was able to get throttle working with the rescale toggle but i cant have consistent force feedback with my vrs base, sometimes it works most of the time it does not
Same here, I've been LOVING it so far, and I'm about 40-50 hours in. It's stunning to look at, performs well (frame rate I mean) and I've had very few issues. Going back to Dirt Rally 2.0 I enjoy WRC more, mainly as it performs so much better primarily thanks to DLSS.
@@ross-carlson I feel like the development team of racing games in general are missing the memo here. You need to have good physics, and then wrap it up with good graphics. It shouldn't just be a graphic showcase. But I can see why they are taking this approach. After all, good graphics gets you good chunk of pre-orders because that's what customers are able to see from the trailers anyway.
It really puts into stark perspective how stale racing games are that TONS of PRIME examples of the genre are pushing or far more than an entire decade old at this point. This last decade has EASILY been the single worst for racing games since the genre's inception IMHO.
This is something that is hitting all niche genres like flight sims or realistic strategy games. It's basically just an accountancy thing where those generic ubisoft open world style games are a set level of guaranteed income so there's no reason to develop anything else.
Tbh I feel we've reached a disconnect between what is fun to play with controller and what is realistic. The two are desperately incompatible and the sim rig community shows us that once you start investing in this hobby seriously it opens up, otherwise you've hit a glass ceiling with the controller with regards to feel and clearly, imagination too. I think as a result the direction in the genre is muddles, no one knows what they want from the genre and well no one is putting out what I think is most needed. A fresh take on the driving game experience.
You only have to look at the F1 games of recent years to know that developers are more interested in cold hard cash than providing a standout game for their fans. F1 22 was deplorable, particularly for controller players and had a lot of bugs in it that had been fixed in later patches of F1 2021 but inextricably showed up again in F1 22. And mods are great for those who play on PC but us console plebs shouldn't have to wallow in the mud. Why can't anyone just make a really good racing game that works well on both controller and Sim rig that doesn't require any modding out of the box? Surely that's not too much to ask!
I've probably had more fun with WRC Generations than any other new racing game release this year, but you're absolutely correct on all counts. I have found my own enjoyment in it, but can't confidently recommend the game to anyone. It's been a pretty sad and uninspiring year (or several) for the racing genre as a whole.
Same here. I love what Nacon has been doing with WRC but these are all valid points. My only complaint so far are the engine sounds. I really don't think a Fiesta sounds like a 747 turbine on your ear as soon as you hit 4th+ gear, truly deafening.
@@zeonicace940 or don't have sounds at all, i played the 9 and the Generation, when i drove the Ford Escort mk1 or the Stratos (especially with the last one) i said "Why i spent €40 for this game with a broken sound and with the pad is unplayable respect WRC 9?"
As much as I love your IRL content and am so fucking happy for what you've accomplished, I can't help but love that your last few videos feel like shed jimmy.
I second this so much. At this point all we need to get full shed Jimmer back is something along the lines of a Truck Sim Stream (with a cheeky drink?).
Thank you for your honesty, at some point people really need to speak up when something is wrong, but as people like us don't have visibility and influence it's useless. But you're not exactly like us so it could really make the mind of the developers. The thing I fear is that Codemasters takes the lead next year and they're part of EA, and F1 22 isn't that great either so little worried about two of my favorite motorsports are going to end badly...
Good one Jimmy, agree with everything you said there. As great as RBR is I hope whatever is next for WRC fixes some of these problems because I’d love a fun experience here as well!
Truth and Worker Bee has put in so much effort to keep it afloat - sim racers shouldn't have to rely on 20ish year old IPs to have a decent time though. Since KT and Codies have been taken over maybe we can soon see DR2 modded stages or something. Prolly not, but never hurts to hope haha
It’s silly, but I found it very indicative of the care that did not go into the details: when loading up a stage in career mode and you are at the service station, the loading screen you get of that service station has several people clipping through objects. Like it’s such an easy thing to spot and to fix but they just didn’t care at all
There are bugs like stuff in the menus that are 4 games old now and they haven't fixed them, they are pure trash and just happened to have a couple good Devs working there that cared and carried the rest of the team that didn't care at all.
The WRC license is gonna go to Codemasters in 2023 so this game is probably kind of a swansong where kylotonn puts a lot of what they made into one package. I imagine they had to get it out before 2023 because of the license thing, so it makes sense that it's buggy since they wouldn't have been able to delay it and will probably have been on quite a tight schedule.
Cheers for this, Jimmer. Thought it was just me being a crap sim-racer (probably still a big part of it but hey...). WRC has gone the way of all games - get it out quickly with minimal effort, people will buy it anyway... sad state of affairs.
@@lambsaucy69 but how does that work? Will it go under the name from Dirt rally, WRC, or wil it be an entire new series? And does codies work together with the devs from WRC? It does sound promising though.
@@magical5181 ea bought codemasters, the rumour was it was going to be called ea sports rally. although you would think they would fit wrc in the name somewhere now they have the licence.
Absolutely heartbreaking that EA has killed off DiRT entirely. It feels like we're losing all our rally games. I thought about moving to this series when I heard DiRT was being scrapped, but... I think I'll just stick to the good old DiRT Rally 2.0...
No EA didn't killed DiRT, Codemasters are just maybe preparing something big, they now have the license, and I'm hoping for a next-gen kind of stuff from them.
My very first playstation game! I remember opening the box like it was yesterday! The soundtrack, the menus, the cars, the drivers! That was a real game
I hope Kylotonn keep making rally games because they do at least design good stages (I like the longer combined ones especially) and the genre can only benefit from the variety and competition. Not having the WRC license also means that what they lack in budget they'll make up for with more time for development. Just give me more stages and some Group B cars to wrap around the trees and I'm happy.
These guys were just cashing in on the licence every year, they did the bare minimum to sell copies and had no pride in their work. Hopefully they don't try and make another rally game so we don't have to waste our time even looking at this trash again.
I am pretty sure you can switch difficulty in career between rallies (from what I remember you have an option in Calendar when you select events to participate in).
Thanks for the honest review! Im really tired of all that paid “influencers”. I was driving Dirt 2.0 for years now and just wanted to have a bit different experience, new stages, etc. That how i end up with WRC G. The most annoying thing for me is Hand Break issue! I literally cant use it at all, as in 80% of the cases the car start spinning. I went crazy on one corner, tried 20 times and it feels like once you pull the hand break the front wheels stop running and the car became rear wheels only, with a huge push from a side. You can get used to slow reaction on your stearing wheel, you can get used to some strange car behavior but without hand break rally is not rally.
What is concerning for me is that Kylotonn is responsible for Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown. After playing WRC 10 and Generations, I have to say I am kinda nervous for the next installment of TDU. All of the things Jimmy calls out here I agree with. I get that TDU isn't a sim game, but the principal stands that if the developer doesn't produce solid games and hasn't for the past few versions of WRC. Then what are chances the next TDU game could be disappointing as well. Here is to hoping that Kylotonn shifted their attention to TDU after acquiring the rights instead of the WRC.
How can Jimmy said that WRC 10 was his favourite rally sim and now, with Generations, which is way better than 10, in terms of physics, weight transfer and content, he says such words. Seriously I m confused. For me this is a good game. Identical for newcomers to rally sims. Fair enough for experienced who will have some fun hours and then go back to assetto corsa.
Just launch the game back after a week of EA WRC 23, i must say it aged well when you compare it. So many different stages and environments, if only the FFB was better it would be awesome.
This was really helpful - I played DR2.0 to the point where I was a bit sick of it, and since then I've been playing WRC10 and generally enjoying it, and I've been looking at Generations and thinking about getting it since rally sims are a rare breed, but after watching this I think I'll wait until it's on sale and maybe hopefully patched a bit.
@@semmelboesel The tracks are definitely the thing I love most about the WRC games above DR. In DR it seems like there's basically only two or three different tracks per location that just get cut up and reversed over and over to create 'different' stages.
its a shame to see the state of the official WRC game like that.. Maybe the devs are really underfunded and have to make something like this. I bet WRC isnt exactly a huge money making series right now sadly.. Thanks for the info Jimmer
Terrible excuse. KT's WRC games have been like this since like....ever. Unfinished. Unpolished. Broken. Mediocre. Not just their rally games. All their games.
I'm guessing that Kylotonn was just trying to get the game out the door before the license expired and to shift focus entirely on Solar Crown. Then again, we've barely heard anything about Solar Crown as of late, not even a gameplay trailer. Something is amiss here.
Thank you Jimmer. Well said clear, and honest (also competely true) summary. I feel like they haven't done any tests before release. I'm also sure they give a damn to the feedbacks of the community for previous versions.
I Will disagree with you Jimmy on this one.i have WRC 8,9 and 10 and generations is,without a doubt,the only One wich is controller user friendly,where i feel genuinely that i have full Control of the car.i barely Touch online so if you are on a controller it is a massive step forward
I just picked up WRC 9 on PS5 for £5 on sale, and after watching this vid I really don't see any point to get WRC 10 or generation. I have really enjoyed WRC9 so far. and nice to have an alternative to dirt rally 2 which ive played loads of. great vid, thanks
I played with so many settings and did a lot of troubleshooting thinking the throttle input was messed up or my pedals had issues.. Having no effect below like 80% is so frustrating. Thank you so much for showing its not just me!!!
I'm the only one in love with the gameplay of this game?? I agree with all the flaws that you point (appart from the difficulty between rallys, that you can choose), but i've been really enjoing it!
It's a shame that we're at a point where older games are outshining their sequel counterparts through the simple fact of being a finished product. I hope we don't have to deal with this too much longer, but for now RBR, DR2 and the PS2 WRC games are scratching the itch for me. Hopefully Kyloton realise this is the bang they are going out on and fix some of the bigger problems you listed.
They are going out, even more reason not to fix the problems, as they don't have to keep the player base somewhat on good terms for buying the next sequel...
@@marv2507 Yeah that is probably how they are thinking, but I'm not sure they realise that many people will remember them for the last iteration. Take Danger Close Games for example, they were tasked with making a couple of the command and conquer games, as well as many of the Medal of Honor games. When they were tasked with the 2010 reboot of Medal of Honor, it was seen as a positive attempt at moving the franchise forward. When they made MOH Warfighter in 2012 however, it got pummeled by all of its critics for it's broken and buggy nature, as well as how boring and unoriginal the game was. Within a year of the game coming out, only a day 1 patch had been released, the studio had been dissolved (shut down in fancy terms), and Medal of Honor had been "taken out of rotation". While I don't believe Kyloton has made anywhere near as bad a game as Danger Close did, the reviews and videos coming out about Generations that take a stance like Jimmer's are leaning to suggest they did, If they decide they don't want to fix these issues, that is their choice, but it may well be their ending legacy.
I have to correct you on the topic of hybrid deployment. The hybrid deployment (at least how you described it) is realistic. The hybrid is deployed automatically within the stage and the driver has no control on how the hybrid is deployed during the stage. What they can do, is to choose different deployment modes, which modify how the hybrid is being deployed but the driver doesn't have a button to deploy the hybrid manually.
In my testing of a few cars including the new WRC cars I have fine control of the whole throttle range now. My problem is more the same as it was from release: Several tenths of a second input lag of all controls.
I wouldn't be surprised if Codemasters (by way of their owner EA) kept it to a not immersive season mode and battle passed the fuck out of customizations. I really really really do hope that they take a note from the WRC games and improve their track designs though. But again... if we end up with some dumb customize your apartment and the barest of car editor bones i wouldn't be shocked. They couldn't even be bothered to add in customizable car models in the F1 game.... just generic premade liveries.
I've long been a fan of rally games, had every CMR as it came out, all the Dirt series, DR1 from early access and WRC1-5 last time round when it was on PS2...but only recently stepped into this franchise with WRC10. None of it feels as polished or good as Dirt 2.0 but despite that I find myself much happier to pick it up and play and have fun doing it. There's so much wrong with the game but somehow it's still quite good fun...and that's kind of the point
Yes because it's still a new game, we tend to disregard the issues if we know a lot of people are playing what are you playing. Anyway, the problem is WRC knows they don't have competition probably since 2020, they are the only Rally game right now they know people will buy it, they just need to make the game playable and good enough. Yes we still have RBR, and DR2 but they are old, not all people are interested in mods.
Thank you for this. As a console racer, specifically Xbox, options sometimes seem very limited. This is especially true for more modern titles that make better use of modern sim gear (another thing that's option limited for Xbox). I bought an SF1000 wheel, only to find that the only titles that make use of the UDP telemetry are the F1 games from 2019 onward. That's great for those, but when you pop into Forza, it's useless. Not to mention how you start to miss a full round steering wheel when you're driving anything that's not an open wheel or hypercar.
I’ve been driving real cars on real dirt roads for 30 odd years and the wrc games are off by a mile. If you had a purpose built 4wd rally car and it handled this bad you’d burn it…. Love from Australia 😊
This is a good video. I'd love to say I agree with everything you've said but unfortunately I STILL can't play it. I have a T300 wheel and G27 pedals and from WRC8 to Generations none of them have worked. Previously, it was always that using an input on one device would stop the other one registering, leaving you accelerating into a tree or off a cliff. That seems to be gone now. Instead, this game's special thing is that it doesn't recognise my wheel's axis at all, even in the control menu. No idea why, every other game is fine with it. It is sad because the stages on this look amazing. DR2.0 is a bit weak when it comes to stages, and the tarmac physics also. In the end I've done what I suspect we all do eventually - crawled back to RBR and begged for forgiveness that I ever tried to leave it for a younger, slimmer, less demanding game.
Thought generations was bogus until I messed around with the FFB on my DD wheel. A very heavy wheel with a narrow steering angle made a night and day difference. I’ve had a lot more fun in WRCG than DR2 with this setup.
Jimmy everything you say is correct for this game...don't listen to the fanboys.This company doesn't know how to make a game.They are going 1 step forward and 3 steps backwards every time...
As someone who has played Dirt Rally 2, but hasn't touched any of the previous WRC games (mainly because I couldn't get WRC 10 to work 🤣), I've found this game to be an absolute blast. Graphics are great, sound is absolutely fine, handling is good, stage design is epic. I haven't hesitated to recommend this to everyone, with the caveat that (as with every new release it seems) there may be issues. As to regurgitating content. EA has been at the forefront of publishing the same game year on year since the 1990's. To be honest, what else are KT supposed to do with the WRC licence? Let's see what EA can innovate with the licence for the next few years. It's not perfect, but in my experience it has been 100% FUN. But I'm not a sim racing perfectionist.
What a load of twaddle. And the xbox version still doesn't have FFB wheel support 3 weeks after release. FUCK KT Games and the baguette they rode in on.
All your points are valid. I still play the game a lot because of League mode but even this part of the game needs tweaking. It's so sad that the two really games coming out recently (WRCG and Dakar Desert Rally) are unfinished. I keep unplugging my wheel and playing city builders because the rally feel isn't there anymore.
Jimmy you inspired me to get a wheel and 100hours into AC i've discovered a real passion for drifting, now me and my buddy are doing sick tandems (then crashing) and having a blast. Thankyou for putting out the consistent content!!
Assetto Corsa has been my "rally game" for the last couple of years. I love the handling model on tarmac and depending on the car mod even gravel feels decent. It's a shame that the rally stages don't have the same level of eye candy Dirt Rally has, but it's fun to drive nonetheless.
I just feel like they suddenly made the cars super heavy between 10 and Generations. Took some time to get used to braking harder, the weakness of the throttle and the handbrake turns. Overall it's enjoyable, but I'm definitely gonna play more RBR in the future
I've been waiting for your review of this game before I brought it and I'm really glad I haven't. I may when the price drops but it seems so hard to spend a good amount of money on a game that is no better than a previous version for under £10 on PS. Cheers for the heads up Jimmer 👌 Hopefully EA doesn't butcher the dirt/WRC series when it releases. 🤞🤞🤞🤞
RBR have has absolutely a new great stage. The name is Gabiria-Legazpi 2004. Try it and show all rally fans how the Rbr has magnificent potential. Also support the modding producers.
Thank you Jamble for making the video, been watching your streams as well and it is just so disappointing how much stuff is broken and/or missing from the game. I have WRC9, DR2 and RBR so this release won't be ending up in my library. I hardly play WRC9 as is because of some of the quirks, biggest one being that lighting thing that is seemingly fixed now but replaced with other issues. I am especially glad you brought up the the setups being wack. I don't have much time to play games so when I get the time to play i want to spend that time driving and having fun, not messing with a setup that I know nothing about and don't have time to learn. I am totally fine with a default setup being 80% of ideal, I can work with that but to give a crippling setup as default sucks. Just because I enjoy sim racing doesn't mean I have hours to dial in setups just to be able to enjoy the driving and feel like I am driving a car. It is all such a bummer because I have gotten so tired of doing the same stages over and over in DR2 and RBR suffers from having too much to where I don't know what to play. The time I spent on WRC9 was a lot of fun, the stages were more interesting than DR2, the driving was fun, having modern WRC cars was amazing that I really wished this release and WRC10 for that matter were just flat out better and could be my de-facto rally game. They are just too incomplete or weirdly broken for that to be true though.
OMG every single thing you've pointed out is sooo accurate. I was driving in wrc generations and thinking what the hell is going onnnn. I'm glad that i'm not the only one who thinks this way :)
Anyone who has ever watched my videos knows my love for historic cars - as per usual though, they've been an afterthought yet again in this iteration. Some of the issues Jimmy has mentioned have been changed (note, not fixed but changed) like the center diff fiasco in Rally1 cars (but if you have a saved tune from pre-patch you can still tune the center etc) and the throttle is still the same despite them saying it's been fixed. But hey, latest patch fixed a display issue where the brakes wouldn't glow properly! That's real helpful.
I don’t no if the updates changed what you played, but I got it this week and it’s the best rally game I’ve ever played on console anyway and I’ve played them all since the original Colin McRae, and looking at the history of EA and what they do to a franchise of games the only way is down while they hold the wrc license
I love the physics in this game. Better than DR, but not on RBR level. Realistic damage too. I hope things get patched! Greetings from your old RBR Rival, Jimmy ;)
All the comments being happy about codemasters taking over the licence need to realise that that’s now EA 😫and they do one thing and it’s me thing only when they get a licence, they absolutely ram it up the pipe and destroy it
Agree with everything you've said. It's like they started with the base code from WRC 10 without any of the patches. It's almost like they didn't do any testing, especially when it comes to the steering wheels. Compared to Dirt or Dirt Rally I never have liked the feeling of the car in any WRC game. I seem to be constantly chasing the wheel setups and they seem to change everytime I restart the game. I really agree with you about floating on tarmac. It seems to be one extreme to the other. One session I'm floating and the next there's too much grip.
IMO WRC 10 is the pinnacle of the series, it felt just a bit more refined than 9. One thing I noticed that you didn't mention was the new way night driving in WRCG is rendered graphically. There is an odd halo to the new headlight system that has the strange effect of illuminating the sky along with the rest of the scenery. It's incredibly odd and doesn't particularly look very good. 10 and before really felt like you were driving at night with pitch black sky and very low ambient light. I was tough as nails, but felt way more real. Generations is a step back in night driving for sure.
i felt like it was the opposite problem to what DR 2.0 (the tarmac just felt like gravel with more grip). The gravel in WRC:G just feels like slippery tarmac, handling feels way too floaty, no sense of tyres digging into the gravel.
@@luxie8097 I agree. In WRC Gen the handling on tarmac feels a bit like tarmac. But, the handling on gravel also feels like tarmac. The car handling, on a controller, feels sluggish, the cars feel too heavy. Everything feels soft, i.e. the landings after a bump or a jump are soft and the collisions with rocks, trees, barriers feels soft. A poor game and nowhere near as good as WRC 10.
I've been really enjoying WRC Generations, but its also the first WRC game I've played, and the first rally game I've played in a long time. But the longer you play the more you notice the oddities. I just finished the power stage in Portugal which is a head to head race. The opponent car finished ahead of me by a good few seconds, and I had a 5 second time penalty for going out of the track limits, but I apparently won the race by 1 second. Unless the opponent had a penalty (maybe possible but I don't think there's a way to check) then that just can't be true. Maybe the times are skewed because I'm only on 120% difficulty. The other notable moment would be in Sweden when another car was pulled over on the side and a wheel in the middle of the course instantly booted the car into a roll.
Thanks for the honest review, Jimmy. I've bought a few Kylotonn WRC games over the years and have felt let down on every occasion. Last year I got WRC10 on Xbox One S and put in plenty of hours before concluding either my eyes were broken or there was something amiss with the framerate. It was the closest I had ever gotten to travel sickness. I switched over to Dirt 2.0 and it was like I'd just had corrective eye laser surgery. Additionally, WRC 10 felt poor with my wheel and sounded asthmatic. Gotta say though, Kylotonn did a great job on stage design, in fairness. I was kinda tempted by Generations, if it were to appear on sale for €20, as I now have a PS5, but I've now decided there's no point throwing good money after bad. Fingers crossed Codies/EA work their magic when they pick up the WRC license.
My guess is now that with Ea taking over the menus will be better but driving will be shit, the opposite of what pro gamers like us primarily want in a game
@@brandonlehman7440 It's still a Codemasters game and will be based off of the cancelled Dirt Rally 3.0. So yes, it will be a good rally game most likely
Agree with a lot of this but I prefer it to dirt rally 2.0. Main thing that really bothers me is the throttle input. Hopefully seeing as it's there last title they will oatch and address most of these annoyances. I do think it's very good though
that part about the settings is exactly why i sincerely *hate* the kylotonn games. the way they play, the handling model, the suspension physics... i'm a filthy casual, i genuinely don't know anything about settings, i can't make a setup to save my life, i just don't understand any of this, and the kylotonn games are downright undriveable at my level. i always try, and they always feel like you're driving on clouds, it's floaty as all hell, like you're not driving cars but hovercrafts. it's awful. and it goes for *all* their games ; wrc, v-rally, their truck games (including the fia european truck championship one from 2019 released under "n-racing"), even the isle of man tt felt more like wave race than anything remotely ressembling bike physics...
Yeah i'm really surprised so many people are fans of how the cars drive. I feel like you, it's like driving a hovercraft or something. FFB is just friction and re-centering, no feeling of the tyres reacting or digging into the gravel. It's made me appreciate DR 2.0 a lot more.
This Game is an absolute monster to play, the controls to steer the car are uncontrollable, the power output when accelerating is too sensitive and the cars are incredibly slippery! There’s no grip at all even when you’re on normal regular tarmac to snow, the game’s download speed is slow and Laggy AF. I can barely steer the car to negotiate a turn to save my life, and the handbrake is terrible, you use it as you normally would on a Square turn or Hairpin and you will end up spinning. Don’t get me wrong as much as I like and admire the sport, I have never played a rally game, ever! I’m more used to F1 and GT handling compared to WRC so I don’t know if it’s a me problem or it’s just the game is terrible! For Me personally, I feel like the game is terrible.
How the turntables? Literally the opposite commentary on EA WRC game, and a carelessness about it being realistic or not. But when it comes to WRCG all guns come out, how unrealistic and bad it is... Also recommending DR2 instead of this game is funny, since DR2 is even less realistic and much more of a borefest. I'm just pointing out this hypocrisy, I know I'm being a bit to aggro about it, but just annoyed about this Codemasters/EA riding, when they have only baited the community with the first DR, and then released a worse and easier version in terms of physics and driving, just to appeal to broader crowd and using the goodwill acquired by DR to do this (which was also very predictable that they would do it, I even remember thinking exactly this playing DR). DR2 in general is not even a good game overall, many issues with it, Codemasters deserve very little praise.
Holy cow, this even sounds like a step down from WRC 10. Tried that one a month or two ago (free weekend) and aside from the terrible driving on controller (steering input doesn't scale with speed and isn't adjustable) it felt alright for the most part
Nice review, especially nailed the last part; releasing a game in such state is insulting... this cannot be the standard. It's ridiculous ; some of these bugs make you think they didn't even test it at all. Sound bugs were easiest to spot yet didn't even bother and released it anyway. They copy pasted code from their old game (including the bugs) and moved on with the release. I wish everyone would refund so they get the point. And they have yet to acknowledge any of those issues/bugs. They just don't care.
Everything he said he is bang on. For me on the Xbox I have a glitch where I cannot change the setup of my car before a stage, and if it lets me then it locks my car into manual gearbox whereas I prefer semi automatic as I only have a controller but there’s nothing you can do to change it? The game just ignores the fact you selected semi auto over Manual but only when u set up your car?? Also in career when ur half way through a rally it sometimes it doesn’t let you see the current times of all the drivers so it’s hard to judge if u need to really push or not in the next stage and it’s impossible to guess when u play 150% ai. Just don’t bother yet
I disagree with this review. Especially with an advice to new rally players, like myself. Being a very new player to the rally videogames I am really enjoying WRC Generations. Most of the points made in this video are very niche and I feel that these things don't really matter to more casual players like myself. The biggest points that make me recommend this game: 1) Gameplay is great; 2) Tracks are amazing; 3) Career mode is a lot of fun. I do agree that most of these points are probably true, but they honestly don't really matter to regular players, unless you are a hardcore rally fan.
None of that matter when your fanatec steering wheel doesn't work since release for a game sponsored by fanatec. That's the current state of the game for some. Glad you're enjoying it tho.
I bought this game the day I saw Jimmy play it live. Gave it back 30 minutes after booting it up. It is absolutely the worst title I've purchased this year.
I had such a great time with WRC 8, but there was so much to upgrade and they just didn't do it. The AI is either way too fast like in Monte Carlo, or way too slow like in Sweden. The sounds continue to be really bad. Graphical issues that should be easy to fix are still present. There's not a lot of tuning options compared to Dirt Rally. It's just disappointing.
I've been wanting a rally game as realistic as Richard Burns Rally but with higher fidelity graphics, though I'm yet to see one that could offer enough (without a multitude of problems) to be worth it. I've been playing RBR with the Rallysimfans mod and there's so many tracks and cars to choose from that a new game is going to fight hard to win me over.
Had a lot of fun with WRC10 as my first toe dip into the series after being a huge fan of Dirt Rally and Dirt Rally 2.0. Glad to hear KT stuck with their ways and I have no reason to buy the last rendition before they lose the WRC licensing. Here's to Codemasters making a great love child of a next WRC game that does WRC10 tarmac/stage design/career paired with Dirt Rally 2.0 gravel/car handling and sound/VR support.
So it follows same pattern as last few F1 games. Since 2018, they've felt like outside of MyTeam, they've purely been roster updates. Same as with most annual release sports titles. Maybe they need to change to making new cars/tracks/driver lineups as Paid DLCs
WRC 8 got me back into rally games when I bought it cheap but when I picked up WRC10 and Dirt Rally 2.0 it became apparent which was the better game. Dirt Rally 2.0 is just a far superior rally game in my opinion from the engine sounds to the overall immersion and the sense of speed. It's not like the WRC games are bad games but there's something just off about them. I'm convinced those making videos claiming WRC is better than Dirt Rally 2.0 are being sponsored or something to say that. I wouldn't touch WRC generations until it is cheap enough.
Coming from Dirt Rally 2.0 on controller with no assists, I thought maybe something is wrong with me but it was almost impossible for me to play due to the throttle weirdness.
Im glad you did this honest review Jimmy. After the disappointment of WRC10, i was only gonna play this if it came to Xbox Game Pass, but TBH what do Kylotonn care if its bad, its the last game of their series as EA/CM have now got the license. Im just hoping Codemasters address these issues you've brought up and the comments everyone has posted below. Just sticking with DR2.0 atm.
Synthetic couldn’t have been a more perfect word when it comes to the sounds, you left out the stage sounds as well (gravel, tar, snow, and etc) and that is what my personal attraction point is with any racing experience and in especially dirt rally 2 with gorgeous sounds all around but that’s something that this franchise has struggled with for so long. I was really hoping this final send off for a game would be the best but there’s still things in the previous titles that I would pick over Generations. At least i’m having fun for the most part but it’s understandable as to why people aren’t. Praying they’ll be on top this as soon as possible.
While I haven't played a single WRC game from these devs, I can't help but see the same alarming issue with Yearly License Title releases (F1 comes to mind): Some of the same issues from the previous games popping up and a serious lack of anything actually new beyond some new content (which can be said about yearly licenses sports titles period from what I see over and over). Its mind boggling that as a licensed title, this game gate keeps the latest cars behind a wall while even the varying degrees of mediocore to dumpster fire that have been the NASCAR games had the common sense to make the current cars of the time the cars you can drive by yourself by default. Some very strange decisions in what is effectively the final WRC title from these devs, I'm not expecting a whole bunch from EA era Codies (who from what I can tell are no better then what they were before) once they make their WRC title but going off the F1 games I at least expect the current season cars to not be locked behind some strange arbitrary wall.
As a new WRC player, I thought I was going crazy about the game for all of the issue it has. I can still enjoy the game, but a lot needs to be fixed in my opinion to be considered a worthy rally game. Thank you for making this video, it will hopefully show lots of people and maybe the developers what do we have to say about the game and maybe and just maybe they'll fix it.
Jimmy... my dear Jimmy , first of all, I honestly do love your videos. HOWEVER, I have a couple points for you: 1. I heard you say at least three times in this 14:28 video that WRC generations is basically the same game as previous versions. I have a question. Does this honestly surprise you? It suffers from the same thing that pretty much all licensed games suffer from. It's literally rinse, repeat, give us your money (see madden NFL, FIFA, NBA2k as examples of this problem). Welcome to the world of licensed games. 2. I think you, yourself, would be considered a sim racer correct? You call WRC a sim game in this video. You want 85 percent of your set up work done for you? Come on bro, I would put that at ARCADE level games. If you honestly want 85 percent of your setup work done for you so you can have a good setup, I'm gonna have to revoke that sim racer card lol. 3. This is something I have been screaming from the mountain tops for years. You say at the very beginning of this video that features in the game are either broken, not there, etc. Honestly, all I can say to this is get used to it. This is the generation of gaming that we live in now. Believe me, it isn't going to change. Why isn't it going to change? Because gamers of this generation can't handle delays, games being pushed back for improvements etc. Any delay and they automatically tweet, or stream "The developers lied to us" like content. Another reason is honestly because of streamers, youtubers etc saying they love the game etc. Believe it or not, youtubers and streamers like yourself and others have a massive amount of influence over people buying games, or products that you like, or don't like. Sadly though until gamers start refusing to accept mediocrity, this is what we're stuck with. Half finished products, and shitty games altogether.
What 'rally' related game do you recommend? Last game i played was Dirt 4. The age of the game doesn't bother me. I have pedals and steeringwheel and want a game that feels real. I have a PS4
I have been holding on wrcG for a while now. This video showed me I was right. Patience is king. Having said that, I cant wait to mod RB game and try out my luck in that.
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Came here to defend the game because I've been having a lot of fun but every point is accurate and annoying, great review. Throttle bug needs to be fixed ASAP.
was able to get throttle working with the rescale toggle but i cant have consistent force feedback with my vrs base, sometimes it works most of the time it does not
Same here, I've been LOVING it so far, and I'm about 40-50 hours in. It's stunning to look at, performs well (frame rate I mean) and I've had very few issues. Going back to Dirt Rally 2.0 I enjoy WRC more, mainly as it performs so much better primarily thanks to DLSS.
@@ross-carlson I feel like the development team of racing games in general are missing the memo here. You need to have good physics, and then wrap it up with good graphics. It shouldn't just be a graphic showcase. But I can see why they are taking this approach. After all, good graphics gets you good chunk of pre-orders because that's what customers are able to see from the trailers anyway.
Enjoying the game as well! And not ashamed 🙂
Right after wheel support for console
It really puts into stark perspective how stale racing games are that TONS of PRIME examples of the genre are pushing or far more than an entire decade old at this point. This last decade has EASILY been the single worst for racing games since the genre's inception IMHO.
The modding community for sim racing has been putting these studios to absolute shame with the quality content they produce imo
This is something that is hitting all niche genres like flight sims or realistic strategy games. It's basically just an accountancy thing where those generic ubisoft open world style games are a set level of guaranteed income so there's no reason to develop anything else.
Tbh I feel we've reached a disconnect between what is fun to play with controller and what is realistic. The two are desperately incompatible and the sim rig community shows us that once you start investing in this hobby seriously it opens up, otherwise you've hit a glass ceiling with the controller with regards to feel and clearly, imagination too. I think as a result the direction in the genre is muddles, no one knows what they want from the genre and well no one is putting out what I think is most needed.
A fresh take on the driving game experience.
Agreed
You only have to look at the F1 games of recent years to know that developers are more interested in cold hard cash than providing a standout game for their fans. F1 22 was deplorable, particularly for controller players and had a lot of bugs in it that had been fixed in later patches of F1 2021 but inextricably showed up again in F1 22.
And mods are great for those who play on PC but us console plebs shouldn't have to wallow in the mud. Why can't anyone just make a really good racing game that works well on both controller and Sim rig that doesn't require any modding out of the box? Surely that's not too much to ask!
I've probably had more fun with WRC Generations than any other new racing game release this year, but you're absolutely correct on all counts. I have found my own enjoyment in it, but can't confidently recommend the game to anyone. It's been a pretty sad and uninspiring year (or several) for the racing genre as a whole.
Same here.
I love what Nacon has been doing with WRC but these are all valid points. My only complaint so far are the engine sounds.
I really don't think a Fiesta sounds like a 747 turbine on your ear as soon as you hit 4th+ gear, truly deafening.
@@zeonicace940 or don't have sounds at all, i played the 9 and the Generation, when i drove the Ford Escort mk1 or the Stratos (especially with the last one) i said "Why i spent €40 for this game with a broken sound and with the pad is unplayable respect WRC 9?"
Very true
the last half decade hasn't been very kind to the Racing game genre
Same here. I bought it after I had played the EA sports version. I like this game a lot more.
As much as I love your IRL content and am so fucking happy for what you've accomplished, I can't help but love that your last few videos feel like shed jimmy.
I second this so much. At this point all we need to get full shed Jimmer back is something along the lines of a Truck Sim Stream (with a cheeky drink?).
Man, these types of video really are my favorite. Just Jimmy chilling in his “shed”
@@magical5181 Magical, have u watched ARG vs KSA yesterday?
@@DeaconX7 i third it.
@Octavian Roman what? It anything shed Jimmer enjoyers are older because they have been around for longer.
Samir your breaking the car
My what?
A lot of people can hear this clip 🤣
Triple Caution 😂
@@AmanAli-dc1sy stay center!
Brother, learn to spell pls
Thank you for your honesty, at some point people really need to speak up when something is wrong, but as people like us don't have visibility and influence it's useless. But you're not exactly like us so it could really make the mind of the developers. The thing I fear is that Codemasters takes the lead next year and they're part of EA, and F1 22 isn't that great either so little worried about two of my favorite motorsports are going to end badly...
Good one Jimmy, agree with everything you said there. As great as RBR is I hope whatever is next for WRC fixes some of these problems because I’d love a fun experience here as well!
Truth and Worker Bee has put in so much effort to keep it afloat - sim racers shouldn't have to rely on 20ish year old IPs to have a decent time though. Since KT and Codies have been taken over maybe we can soon see DR2 modded stages or something. Prolly not, but never hurts to hope haha
It’s silly, but I found it very indicative of the care that did not go into the details: when loading up a stage in career mode and you are at the service station, the loading screen you get of that service station has several people clipping through objects. Like it’s such an easy thing to spot and to fix but they just didn’t care at all
There are bugs like stuff in the menus that are 4 games old now and they haven't fixed them, they are pure trash and just happened to have a couple good Devs working there that cared and carried the rest of the team that didn't care at all.
The WRC license is gonna go to Codemasters in 2023 so this game is probably kind of a swansong where kylotonn puts a lot of what they made into one package. I imagine they had to get it out before 2023 because of the license thing, so it makes sense that it's buggy since they wouldn't have been able to delay it and will probably have been on quite a tight schedule.
That is actually the exact reason
Cheers for this, Jimmer. Thought it was just me being a crap sim-racer (probably still a big part of it but hey...). WRC has gone the way of all games - get it out quickly with minimal effort, people will buy it anyway... sad state of affairs.
i think codemasters will do wrc right
@@lambsaucy69 100% agree 👍🏻
@@lambsaucy69 but how does that work? Will it go under the name from Dirt rally, WRC, or wil it be an entire new series? And does codies work together with the devs from WRC? It does sound promising though.
@@magical5181 ea bought codemasters, the rumour was it was going to be called ea sports rally. although you would think they would fit wrc in the name somewhere now they have the licence.
@@socks2441 thanks for the info. Of course those bastards at EA want their brand to be in the spotlight 😂.
Absolutely heartbreaking that EA has killed off DiRT entirely. It feels like we're losing all our rally games. I thought about moving to this series when I heard DiRT was being scrapped, but... I think I'll just stick to the good old DiRT Rally 2.0...
Codemaster's is taking over the WRC series since this is the last game with the current dev. Next one in the series will probably be pretty awesome.
Wait Dirt is being scrapped and now Codemasters are making it?
No EA didn't killed DiRT, Codemasters are just maybe preparing something big, they now have the license, and I'm hoping for a next-gen kind of stuff from them.
@@Hero_Of_Old Ya, the license expired and Codemaster's takes over after Generations for the official WRC license. Friggin pumped.
The Dirt Rally series was scrapped because Codemasters are now going to be the ones developing new WRC games
I remember playing WRC3 on the PS2 pretty much every day absolutely loved it.
Yes! The ps2 wrc games from Evolve Studio were the best!
My very first playstation game! I remember opening the box like it was yesterday! The soundtrack, the menus, the cars, the drivers! That was a real game
I respect Jimmy so much for having the balls to just say things as they are, no sugar coating, hes just real, a gamer, a fan, like all of us.
I hope Kylotonn keep making rally games because they do at least design good stages (I like the longer combined ones especially) and the genre can only benefit from the variety and competition. Not having the WRC license also means that what they lack in budget they'll make up for with more time for development.
Just give me more stages and some Group B cars to wrap around the trees and I'm happy.
These guys were just cashing in on the licence every year, they did the bare minimum to sell copies and had no pride in their work. Hopefully they don't try and make another rally game so we don't have to waste our time even looking at this trash again.
@@denn15m8 it's always the people on top mate, foot-on-the -ground developers would be happy to make a great game sadly...
pretty sure codemasters have the license now
I am pretty sure you can switch difficulty in career between rallies (from what I remember you have an option in Calendar when you select events to participate in).
You can do it in career. But not in season mode
@@Franko384 You're kidding, right? It's basically the same mode. Why would they remove the button in just one of them?
No idea. It would be such a simple thing to implement.
@@Franko384 agree.
@@Rotaxary well if it's in the calendar menu... there's no such thing in season mode, an event starts automatically when the previous one has ended
Thanks for the honest review! Im really tired of all that paid “influencers”. I was driving Dirt 2.0 for years now and just wanted to have a bit different experience, new stages, etc. That how i end up with WRC G. The most annoying thing for me is Hand Break issue! I literally cant use it at all, as in 80% of the cases the car start spinning. I went crazy on one corner, tried 20 times and it feels like once you pull the hand break the front wheels stop running and the car became rear wheels only, with a huge push from a side.
You can get used to slow reaction on your stearing wheel, you can get used to some strange car behavior but without hand break rally is not rally.
What is concerning for me is that Kylotonn is responsible for Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown. After playing WRC 10 and Generations, I have to say I am kinda nervous for the next installment of TDU. All of the things Jimmy calls out here I agree with. I get that TDU isn't a sim game, but the principal stands that if the developer doesn't produce solid games and hasn't for the past few versions of WRC. Then what are chances the next TDU game could be disappointing as well. Here is to hoping that Kylotonn shifted their attention to TDU after acquiring the rights instead of the WRC.
What the chances are of TDU being disappointing? Very high.
@@TheChannel1978 i hope not. i seriously enjoyed TDU 1
Will you recommend it now ...after the release of EA wrc ? My opinion is ,that you ve been a bit harsh to WRC Gen !
Why did you recommend EA sports WRC though?
its even worse...
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How can Jimmy said that WRC 10 was his favourite rally sim and now, with Generations, which is way better than 10, in terms of physics, weight transfer and content, he says such words. Seriously I m confused. For me this is a good game. Identical for newcomers to rally sims. Fair enough for experienced who will have some fun hours and then go back to assetto corsa.
Just launch the game back after a week of EA WRC 23, i must say it aged well when you compare it.
So many different stages and environments, if only the FFB was better it would be awesome.
This was really helpful - I played DR2.0 to the point where I was a bit sick of it, and since then I've been playing WRC10 and generally enjoying it, and I've been looking at Generations and thinking about getting it since rally sims are a rare breed, but after watching this I think I'll wait until it's on sale and maybe hopefully patched a bit.
As for myself, I dropped DR 2.0 and I'm just into WRC Gen at this point. The tracks...oh boy so much fun. The League system, so motivating.
@@semmelboesel The tracks are definitely the thing I love most about the WRC games above DR. In DR it seems like there's basically only two or three different tracks per location that just get cut up and reversed over and over to create 'different' stages.
I'm just happy my friend was the female co-driver voice in this.
its a shame to see the state of the official WRC game like that.. Maybe the devs are really underfunded and have to make something like this. I bet WRC isnt exactly a huge money making series right now sadly.. Thanks for the info Jimmer
@@Eclipse538 cool, thanks for the info
Terrible excuse. KT's WRC games have been like this since like....ever. Unfinished. Unpolished. Broken. Mediocre. Not just their rally games. All their games.
@@xXturbo86Xx agree
I'm guessing that Kylotonn was just trying to get the game out the door before the license expired and to shift focus entirely on Solar Crown. Then again, we've barely heard anything about Solar Crown as of late, not even a gameplay trailer. Something is amiss here.
My criteria for new rally games is really quite simple.
Is it better than vanilla rbr?
There hasn't been one yet.
Totally agree!
Not to mention modded RBR.. that's on a whole other level compared to all these big rally games.
Thank you Jimmer. Well said clear, and honest (also competely true) summary.
I feel like they haven't done any tests before release. I'm also sure they give a damn to the feedbacks of the community for previous versions.
I Will disagree with you Jimmy on this one.i have WRC 8,9 and 10 and generations is,without a doubt,the only One wich is controller user friendly,where i feel genuinely that i have full Control of the car.i barely Touch online so if you are on a controller it is a massive step forward
I just picked up WRC 9 on PS5 for £5 on sale, and after watching this vid I really don't see any point to get WRC 10 or generation. I have really enjoyed WRC9 so far. and nice to have an alternative to dirt rally 2 which ive played loads of. great vid, thanks
How could they ruin the tarmac?!?! The last title had the best tarmac experience ever. It made me love Spain.....
Croatia for me 👍🏽
Remove the 'S:
I played with so many settings and did a lot of troubleshooting thinking the throttle input was messed up or my pedals had issues.. Having no effect below like 80% is so frustrating. Thank you so much for showing its not just me!!!
I'm the only one in love with the gameplay of this game?? I agree with all the flaws that you point (appart from the difficulty between rallys, that you can choose), but i've been really enjoing it!
WRC 9 was free with amazon prime idk if it still is, but a good way to check it out if you're new to the series or just want to try it out.
It is, but it ends in less than 24 hours.
It's a shame that we're at a point where older games are outshining their sequel counterparts through the simple fact of being a finished product. I hope we don't have to deal with this too much longer, but for now RBR, DR2 and the PS2 WRC games are scratching the itch for me. Hopefully Kyloton realise this is the bang they are going out on and fix some of the bigger problems you listed.
They are going out, even more reason not to fix the problems, as they don't have to keep the player base somewhat on good terms for buying the next sequel...
@@marv2507 Yeah that is probably how they are thinking, but I'm not sure they realise that many people will remember them for the last iteration.
Take Danger Close Games for example, they were tasked with making a couple of the command and conquer games, as well as many of the Medal of Honor games. When they were tasked with the 2010 reboot of Medal of Honor, it was seen as a positive attempt at moving the franchise forward. When they made MOH Warfighter in 2012 however, it got pummeled by all of its critics for it's broken and buggy nature, as well as how boring and unoriginal the game was. Within a year of the game coming out, only a day 1 patch had been released, the studio had been dissolved (shut down in fancy terms), and Medal of Honor had been "taken out of rotation".
While I don't believe Kyloton has made anywhere near as bad a game as Danger Close did, the reviews and videos coming out about Generations that take a stance like Jimmer's are leaning to suggest they did, If they decide they don't want to fix these issues, that is their choice, but it may well be their ending legacy.
Rally Evolved is very good as well.
Except medal of honor was garbage. Warfighter was a better game by a mile
I have to correct you on the topic of hybrid deployment. The hybrid deployment (at least how you described it) is realistic. The hybrid is deployed automatically within the stage and the driver has no control on how the hybrid is deployed during the stage. What they can do, is to choose different deployment modes, which modify how the hybrid is being deployed but the driver doesn't have a button to deploy the hybrid manually.
If they were to patch the issues, honestly is a fantastic game. Definitely has potential to be one the the greats,.. If they just listened to us
Thanks to Kylotonn for addressing the throttle issuein th elatest patch! The game just got a lot more playable!
It's not fixed. Check forums.
@@version8795 Oh. Well damn! I think I'll do my own testing and hopefully they will keep trying to make the game better...
In my testing of a few cars including the new WRC cars I have fine control of the whole throttle range now. My problem is more the same as it was from release: Several tenths of a second input lag of all controls.
Really looking forward to see what Codemasters does with WRC license next year
Oh their gonna do the WRC games here on in?! I’ll jump into that!
They are owned by EA
@@Dhern1212 Yes!
I wouldn't be surprised if Codemasters (by way of their owner EA) kept it to a not immersive season mode and battle passed the fuck out of customizations. I really really really do hope that they take a note from the WRC games and improve their track designs though. But again... if we end up with some dumb customize your apartment and the barest of car editor bones i wouldn't be shocked. They couldn't even be bothered to add in customizable car models in the F1 game.... just generic premade liveries.
This is what happens when EA steals your license and you still need to make a few more games. Sounds like Kylotonn phoned it in.
I've long been a fan of rally games, had every CMR as it came out, all the Dirt series, DR1 from early access and WRC1-5 last time round when it was on PS2...but only recently stepped into this franchise with WRC10. None of it feels as polished or good as Dirt 2.0 but despite that I find myself much happier to pick it up and play and have fun doing it. There's so much wrong with the game but somehow it's still quite good fun...and that's kind of the point
Yeah like I said man, despite all my criticisms I still very much enjoy blasting through stages!
Yes because it's still a new game, we tend to disregard the issues if we know a lot of people are playing what are you playing. Anyway, the problem is WRC knows they don't have competition probably since 2020, they are the only Rally game right now they know people will buy it, they just need to make the game playable and good enough. Yes we still have RBR, and DR2 but they are old, not all people are interested in mods.
Thank you for this. As a console racer, specifically Xbox, options sometimes seem very limited. This is especially true for more modern titles that make better use of modern sim gear (another thing that's option limited for Xbox). I bought an SF1000 wheel, only to find that the only titles that make use of the UDP telemetry are the F1 games from 2019 onward. That's great for those, but when you pop into Forza, it's useless. Not to mention how you start to miss a full round steering wheel when you're driving anything that's not an open wheel or hypercar.
I’ve been driving real cars on real dirt roads for 30 odd years and the wrc games are off by a mile. If you had a purpose built 4wd rally car and it handled this bad you’d burn it…. Love from Australia 😊
I played other racing games and am used to RWD but man I have zero control even when I'm going 4-6k rpms the oversteer goes crazy
i actually like the leader board connected to the weekly and daily race.... im 765.... today
This is a good video. I'd love to say I agree with everything you've said but unfortunately I STILL can't play it.
I have a T300 wheel and G27 pedals and from WRC8 to Generations none of them have worked. Previously, it was always that using an input on one device would stop the other one registering, leaving you accelerating into a tree or off a cliff.
That seems to be gone now. Instead, this game's special thing is that it doesn't recognise my wheel's axis at all, even in the control menu. No idea why, every other game is fine with it.
It is sad because the stages on this look amazing. DR2.0 is a bit weak when it comes to stages, and the tarmac physics also. In the end I've done what I suspect we all do eventually - crawled back to RBR and begged for forgiveness that I ever tried to leave it for a younger, slimmer, less demanding game.
Thought generations was bogus until I messed around with the FFB on my DD wheel. A very heavy wheel with a narrow steering angle made a night and day difference. I’ve had a lot more fun in WRCG than DR2 with this setup.
Jimmy everything you say is correct for this game...don't listen to the fanboys.This company doesn't know how to make a game.They are going 1 step forward and 3 steps backwards every time...
I changed the Center DIFF bias to 65 and that helps a little with the spinning out coming out of some corners.
As someone who has played Dirt Rally 2, but hasn't touched any of the previous WRC games (mainly because I couldn't get WRC 10 to work 🤣), I've found this game to be an absolute blast. Graphics are great, sound is absolutely fine, handling is good, stage design is epic. I haven't hesitated to recommend this to everyone, with the caveat that (as with every new release it seems) there may be issues.
As to regurgitating content. EA has been at the forefront of publishing the same game year on year since the 1990's. To be honest, what else are KT supposed to do with the WRC licence? Let's see what EA can innovate with the licence for the next few years.
It's not perfect, but in my experience it has been 100% FUN. But I'm not a sim racing perfectionist.
What a load of twaddle. And the xbox version still doesn't have FFB wheel support 3 weeks after release. FUCK KT Games and the baguette they rode in on.
Stutter? U miss that ...
All your points are valid. I still play the game a lot because of League mode but even this part of the game needs tweaking.
It's so sad that the two really games coming out recently (WRCG and Dakar Desert Rally) are unfinished. I keep unplugging my wheel and playing city builders because the rally feel isn't there anymore.
Dude wrc 23 come in spring 23
Jimmy you inspired me to get a wheel and 100hours into AC i've discovered a real passion for drifting, now me and my buddy are doing sick tandems (then crashing) and having a blast. Thankyou for putting out the consistent content!!
Assetto Corsa has been my "rally game" for the last couple of years. I love the handling model on tarmac and depending on the car mod even gravel feels decent. It's a shame that the rally stages don't have the same level of eye candy Dirt Rally has, but it's fun to drive nonetheless.
I wish I had a PC! Those mods look awesome on AC!
@@jasonbegaming244 they are. Modded AC in VR is a must try experience
I just feel like they suddenly made the cars super heavy between 10 and Generations. Took some time to get used to braking harder, the weakness of the throttle and the handbrake turns.
Overall it's enjoyable, but I'm definitely gonna play more RBR in the future
I've been waiting for your review of this game before I brought it and I'm really glad I haven't. I may when the price drops but it seems so hard to spend a good amount of money on a game that is no better than a previous version for under £10 on PS. Cheers for the heads up Jimmer 👌 Hopefully EA doesn't butcher the dirt/WRC series when it releases. 🤞🤞🤞🤞
RBR have has absolutely a new great stage. The name is Gabiria-Legazpi 2004. Try it and show all rally fans how the Rbr has magnificent potential. Also support the modding producers.
Thank you Jamble for making the video, been watching your streams as well and it is just so disappointing how much stuff is broken and/or missing from the game. I have WRC9, DR2 and RBR so this release won't be ending up in my library. I hardly play WRC9 as is because of some of the quirks, biggest one being that lighting thing that is seemingly fixed now but replaced with other issues.
I am especially glad you brought up the the setups being wack. I don't have much time to play games so when I get the time to play i want to spend that time driving and having fun, not messing with a setup that I know nothing about and don't have time to learn. I am totally fine with a default setup being 80% of ideal, I can work with that but to give a crippling setup as default sucks. Just because I enjoy sim racing doesn't mean I have hours to dial in setups just to be able to enjoy the driving and feel like I am driving a car.
It is all such a bummer because I have gotten so tired of doing the same stages over and over in DR2 and RBR suffers from having too much to where I don't know what to play. The time I spent on WRC9 was a lot of fun, the stages were more interesting than DR2, the driving was fun, having modern WRC cars was amazing that I really wished this release and WRC10 for that matter were just flat out better and could be my de-facto rally game. They are just too incomplete or weirdly broken for that to be true though.
I’m really enjoying this on PS5 with DualSense pad and have noticed better colours, graphics and overall package. I did come from WRC10
Wow.. gaming industry seems to come to a complete fuckup. Its just like QA doesnt exist anymore.
Why i cant recomment people who recomment Jimmy Broadbent !
OMG every single thing you've pointed out is sooo accurate. I was driving in wrc generations and thinking what the hell is going onnnn. I'm glad that i'm not the only one who thinks this way :)
Anyone who has ever watched my videos knows my love for historic cars - as per usual though, they've been an afterthought yet again in this iteration. Some of the issues Jimmy has mentioned have been changed (note, not fixed but changed) like the center diff fiasco in Rally1 cars (but if you have a saved tune from pre-patch you can still tune the center etc) and the throttle is still the same despite them saying it's been fixed.
But hey, latest patch fixed a display issue where the brakes wouldn't glow properly! That's real helpful.
I don’t no if the updates changed what you played, but I got it this week and it’s the best rally game I’ve ever played on console anyway and I’ve played them all since the original Colin McRae, and looking at the history of EA and what they do to a franchise of games the only way is down while they hold the wrc license
I love the physics in this game. Better than DR, but not on RBR level. Realistic damage too. I hope things get patched!
Greetings from your old RBR Rival, Jimmy ;)
You're the reason I stopped playing RBR ;)
@@Jimmy_Broadbent I'll take that as a compliment! When is the rematch Jimmer? ;)
All the comments being happy about codemasters taking over the licence need to realise that that’s now EA 😫and they do one thing and it’s me thing only when they get a licence, they absolutely ram it up the pipe and destroy it
The throttle bug can be fixed by toggling the "Rescale" parameter to 'ON'
Agree with everything you've said. It's like they started with the base code from WRC 10 without any of the patches. It's almost like they didn't do any testing, especially when it comes to the steering wheels. Compared to Dirt or Dirt Rally I never have liked the feeling of the car in any WRC game. I seem to be constantly chasing the wheel setups and they seem to change everytime I restart the game. I really agree with you about floating on tarmac. It seems to be one extreme to the other. One session I'm floating and the next there's too much grip.
You should put an asterik there with "in it's current state".
But yes, I 100% agree with this review
Thank you for this, I really enjoy you talking about games like this. You have a really good style 👌
IMO WRC 10 is the pinnacle of the series, it felt just a bit more refined than 9. One thing I noticed that you didn't mention was the new way night driving in WRCG is rendered graphically. There is an odd halo to the new headlight system that has the strange effect of illuminating the sky along with the rest of the scenery. It's incredibly odd and doesn't particularly look very good. 10 and before really felt like you were driving at night with pitch black sky and very low ambient light. I was tough as nails, but felt way more real. Generations is a step back in night driving for sure.
I thought it was just me , I just can't get on with it.
Something about the handling is off
i felt like it was the opposite problem to what DR 2.0 (the tarmac just felt like gravel with more grip).
The gravel in WRC:G just feels like slippery tarmac, handling feels way too floaty, no sense of tyres digging into the gravel.
@@luxie8097 I agree.
In WRC Gen the handling on tarmac feels a bit like tarmac. But, the handling on gravel also feels like tarmac.
The car handling, on a controller, feels sluggish, the cars feel too heavy. Everything feels soft, i.e. the landings after a bump or a jump are soft and the collisions with rocks, trees, barriers feels soft.
A poor game and nowhere near as good as WRC 10.
Aye, something about the handling is weird.
I've been really enjoying WRC Generations, but its also the first WRC game I've played, and the first rally game I've played in a long time. But the longer you play the more you notice the oddities. I just finished the power stage in Portugal which is a head to head race. The opponent car finished ahead of me by a good few seconds, and I had a 5 second time penalty for going out of the track limits, but I apparently won the race by 1 second. Unless the opponent had a penalty (maybe possible but I don't think there's a way to check) then that just can't be true. Maybe the times are skewed because I'm only on 120% difficulty. The other notable moment would be in Sweden when another car was pulled over on the side and a wheel in the middle of the course instantly booted the car into a roll.
About the hybrids in real car it is managed by gas pedal input so mechanics in the game are actually correct
Thanks for the honest review, Jimmy. I've bought a few Kylotonn WRC games over the years and have felt let down on every occasion. Last year I got WRC10 on Xbox One S and put in plenty of hours before concluding either my eyes were broken or there was something amiss with the framerate. It was the closest I had ever gotten to travel sickness. I switched over to Dirt 2.0 and it was like I'd just had corrective eye laser surgery. Additionally, WRC 10 felt poor with my wheel and sounded asthmatic. Gotta say though, Kylotonn did a great job on stage design, in fairness.
I was kinda tempted by Generations, if it were to appear on sale for €20, as I now have a PS5, but I've now decided there's no point throwing good money after bad. Fingers crossed Codies/EA work their magic when they pick up the WRC license.
My guess is now that with Ea taking over the menus will be better but driving will be shit, the opposite of what pro gamers like us primarily want in a game
We need some "indy" rally games to fill Dirt Rally and WRCs places
if the ea sports rally series is anything like dirt rally 2.0 it'll be the best licensed rally game since, well ever
@@brandonlehman7440 It won't.
@@brandonlehman7440 most of the devs who worked on DR 2.0 are long gone now.
@@brandonlehman7440 It's still a Codemasters game and will be based off of the cancelled Dirt Rally 3.0. So yes, it will be a good rally game most likely
Agree with a lot of this but I prefer it to dirt rally 2.0. Main thing that really bothers me is the throttle input. Hopefully seeing as it's there last title they will oatch and address most of these annoyances. I do think it's very good though
We need more RBR content
No we need wrc23
Right now ×!!!!@!
that part about the settings is exactly why i sincerely *hate* the kylotonn games. the way they play, the handling model, the suspension physics... i'm a filthy casual, i genuinely don't know anything about settings, i can't make a setup to save my life, i just don't understand any of this, and the kylotonn games are downright undriveable at my level. i always try, and they always feel like you're driving on clouds, it's floaty as all hell, like you're not driving cars but hovercrafts. it's awful. and it goes for *all* their games ; wrc, v-rally, their truck games (including the fia european truck championship one from 2019 released under "n-racing"), even the isle of man tt felt more like wave race than anything remotely ressembling bike physics...
Yeah i'm really surprised so many people are fans of how the cars drive. I feel like you, it's like driving a hovercraft or something. FFB is just friction and re-centering, no feeling of the tyres reacting or digging into the gravel. It's made me appreciate DR 2.0 a lot more.
This Game is an absolute monster to play, the controls to steer the car are uncontrollable, the power output when accelerating is too sensitive and the cars are incredibly slippery!
There’s no grip at all even when you’re on normal regular tarmac to snow, the game’s download speed is slow and Laggy AF.
I can barely steer the car to negotiate a turn to save my life, and the handbrake is terrible, you use it as you normally would on a Square turn or Hairpin and you will end up spinning.
Don’t get me wrong as much as I like and admire the sport, I have never played a rally game, ever!
I’m more used to F1 and GT handling compared to WRC so I don’t know if it’s a me problem or it’s just the game is terrible!
For Me personally, I feel like the game is terrible.
How the turntables? Literally the opposite commentary on EA WRC game, and a carelessness about it being realistic or not. But when it comes to WRCG all guns come out, how unrealistic and bad it is... Also recommending DR2 instead of this game is funny, since DR2 is even less realistic and much more of a borefest.
I'm just pointing out this hypocrisy, I know I'm being a bit to aggro about it, but just annoyed about this Codemasters/EA riding, when they have only baited the community with the first DR, and then released a worse and easier version in terms of physics and driving, just to appeal to broader crowd and using the goodwill acquired by DR to do this (which was also very predictable that they would do it, I even remember thinking exactly this playing DR). DR2 in general is not even a good game overall, many issues with it, Codemasters deserve very little praise.
Holy cow, this even sounds like a step down from WRC 10. Tried that one a month or two ago (free weekend) and aside from the terrible driving on controller (steering input doesn't scale with speed and isn't adjustable) it felt alright for the most part
Good advice coming from someone wearing black nail varnish.
Uh this is Jimmy Broadbent, your fragile masculinity doesn't make what he's saying not important.
Nice review, especially nailed the last part; releasing a game in such state is insulting... this cannot be the standard. It's ridiculous ; some of these bugs make you think they didn't even test it at all. Sound bugs were easiest to spot yet didn't even bother and released it anyway. They copy pasted code from their old game (including the bugs) and moved on with the release.
I wish everyone would refund so they get the point. And they have yet to acknowledge any of those issues/bugs. They just don't care.
SAMIR!!!
Everything he said he is bang on. For me on the Xbox I have a glitch where I cannot change the setup of my car before a stage, and if it lets me then it locks my car into manual gearbox whereas I prefer semi automatic as I only have a controller but there’s nothing you can do to change it? The game just ignores the fact you selected semi auto over Manual but only when u set up your car??
Also in career when ur half way through a rally it sometimes it doesn’t let you see the current times of all the drivers so it’s hard to judge if u need to really push or not in the next stage and it’s impossible to guess when u play 150% ai.
Just don’t bother yet
This was unexpected
I disagree with this review. Especially with an advice to new rally players, like myself. Being a very new player to the rally videogames I am really enjoying WRC Generations. Most of the points made in this video are very niche and I feel that these things don't really matter to more casual players like myself. The biggest points that make me recommend this game: 1) Gameplay is great; 2) Tracks are amazing; 3) Career mode is a lot of fun. I do agree that most of these points are probably true, but they honestly don't really matter to regular players, unless you are a hardcore rally fan.
None of that matter when your fanatec steering wheel doesn't work since release for a game sponsored by fanatec. That's the current state of the game for some. Glad you're enjoying it tho.
I bought this game the day I saw Jimmy play it live. Gave it back 30 minutes after booting it up. It is absolutely the worst title I've purchased this year.
I had such a great time with WRC 8, but there was so much to upgrade and they just didn't do it.
The AI is either way too fast like in Monte Carlo, or way too slow like in Sweden. The sounds continue to be really bad. Graphical issues that should be easy to fix are still present. There's not a lot of tuning options compared to Dirt Rally. It's just disappointing.
I've been wanting a rally game as realistic as Richard Burns Rally but with higher fidelity graphics, though I'm yet to see one that could offer enough (without a multitude of problems) to be worth it. I've been playing RBR with the Rallysimfans mod and there's so many tracks and cars to choose from that a new game is going to fight hard to win me over.
Had a lot of fun with WRC10 as my first toe dip into the series after being a huge fan of Dirt Rally and Dirt Rally 2.0. Glad to hear KT stuck with their ways and I have no reason to buy the last rendition before they lose the WRC licensing. Here's to Codemasters making a great love child of a next WRC game that does WRC10 tarmac/stage design/career paired with Dirt Rally 2.0 gravel/car handling and sound/VR support.
The truth is that rbr is still king 👑. Especially with new stages that are coming out made in blender.
So it follows same pattern as last few F1 games. Since 2018, they've felt like outside of MyTeam, they've purely been roster updates. Same as with most annual release sports titles. Maybe they need to change to making new cars/tracks/driver lineups as Paid DLCs
WRC 8 got me back into rally games when I bought it cheap but when I picked up WRC10 and Dirt Rally 2.0 it became apparent which was the better game. Dirt Rally 2.0 is just a far superior rally game in my opinion from the engine sounds to the overall immersion and the sense of speed. It's not like the WRC games are bad games but there's something just off about them. I'm convinced those making videos claiming WRC is better than Dirt Rally 2.0 are being sponsored or something to say that. I wouldn't touch WRC generations until it is cheap enough.
Coming from Dirt Rally 2.0 on controller with no assists, I thought maybe something is wrong with me but it was almost impossible for me to play due to the throttle weirdness.
Im glad you did this honest review Jimmy.
After the disappointment of WRC10, i was only gonna play this if it came to Xbox Game Pass, but TBH what do Kylotonn care if its bad, its the last game of their series as EA/CM have now got the license.
Im just hoping Codemasters address these issues you've brought up and the comments everyone has posted below.
Just sticking with DR2.0 atm.
Synthetic couldn’t have been a more perfect word when it comes to the sounds, you left out the stage sounds as well (gravel, tar, snow, and etc) and that is what my personal attraction point is with any racing experience and in especially dirt rally 2 with gorgeous sounds all around but that’s something that this franchise has struggled with for so long. I was really hoping this final send off for a game would be the best but there’s still things in the previous titles that I would pick over Generations. At least i’m having fun for the most part but it’s understandable as to why people aren’t. Praying they’ll be on top this as soon as possible.
While I haven't played a single WRC game from these devs, I can't help but see the same alarming issue with Yearly License Title releases (F1 comes to mind): Some of the same issues from the previous games popping up and a serious lack of anything actually new beyond some new content (which can be said about yearly licenses sports titles period from what I see over and over). Its mind boggling that as a licensed title, this game gate keeps the latest cars behind a wall while even the varying degrees of mediocore to dumpster fire that have been the NASCAR games had the common sense to make the current cars of the time the cars you can drive by yourself by default. Some very strange decisions in what is effectively the final WRC title from these devs, I'm not expecting a whole bunch from EA era Codies (who from what I can tell are no better then what they were before) once they make their WRC title but going off the F1 games I at least expect the current season cars to not be locked behind some strange arbitrary wall.
As a new WRC player, I thought I was going crazy about the game for all of the issue it has. I can still enjoy the game, but a lot needs to be fixed in my opinion to be considered a worthy rally game. Thank you for making this video, it will hopefully show lots of people and maybe the developers what do we have to say about the game and maybe and just maybe they'll fix it.
Jimmy... my dear Jimmy , first of all, I honestly do love your videos. HOWEVER, I have a couple points for you:
1. I heard you say at least three times in this 14:28 video that WRC generations is basically the same game as previous versions. I have a question. Does this honestly surprise you? It suffers from the same thing that pretty much all licensed games suffer from. It's literally rinse, repeat, give us your money (see madden NFL, FIFA, NBA2k as examples of this problem). Welcome to the world of licensed games.
2. I think you, yourself, would be considered a sim racer correct? You call WRC a sim game in this video. You want 85 percent of your set up work done for you? Come on bro, I would put that at ARCADE level games. If you honestly want 85 percent of your setup work done for you so you can have a good setup, I'm gonna have to revoke that sim racer card lol.
3. This is something I have been screaming from the mountain tops for years. You say at the very beginning of this video that features in the game are either broken, not there, etc. Honestly, all I can say to this is get used to it. This is the generation of gaming that we live in now. Believe me, it isn't going to change. Why isn't it going to change? Because gamers of this generation can't handle delays, games being pushed back for improvements etc. Any delay and they automatically tweet, or stream "The developers lied to us" like content. Another reason is honestly because of streamers, youtubers etc saying they love the game etc. Believe it or not, youtubers and streamers like yourself and others have a massive amount of influence over people buying games, or products that you like, or don't like. Sadly though until gamers start refusing to accept mediocrity, this is what we're stuck with. Half finished products, and shitty games altogether.
What 'rally' related game do you recommend? Last game i played was Dirt 4. The age of the game doesn't bother me. I have pedals and steeringwheel and want a game that feels real. I have a PS4
I have been holding on wrcG for a while now. This video showed me I was right.
Patience is king.
Having said that, I cant wait to mod RB game and try out my luck in that.