Lenovo Flex 5 with AMD Ryzen 4500U Review - 2 in 1 Laptop / Tablet
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VIDEO INDEX:
00:00 - intro
00:56 - Price
01:04 - Specs
01:14 - Upgradeability
01:30 - Weight
01:36 - Display
02:04 - Backlit Keyboard and trackpad
02:27 - Fingerprint reader
02:31 - Speakers
03:14 - Ports
03:30 - USB-C Does not support displays ALT mode
03:53 - SD Card slot
04:08 - Build quality
04:24 - Webcam shutter
04:43 - Perofrmance: Web browsing
05:11 - AC wireless, not Wi-Fi 6
05:30 - Performance: TH-cam / Video Streaming
07:31 - Included Pen Support
08:51 - Battery life
09:24 - Gaming: Fortnite
10:04 - Gaming: Rocket League
10:22 - Gaming : GTA V
10:50 - Gaming: Witcher 3
11:00 - Gaming: No Man's Sky
11:27 - 3DMark Cloudgate Benchmark
12:23 - 3DMark Time Spy Benchmark
12:53 - Thermals / 3DMark Stress Test
13:06 - Fan noise
13:39 - Linux
14:03 - Conclusion
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ERRATA: One of our slides references this as the "Acer Ideapad" which of course is incorrect. It should be labeled Lenovo Ideapad.
Hi, how to contact you to make an unboxing video for the portable gaming monitor?
Hi, and thanks for the review :)! I have been thinking of buying this PC for a while now. One quick question, you said this is a bit louder than the Acer Swift 3 in "heavy" load but how is it in idle mode? I don't think you mentioned it in this review. I mean when surfing the web, watching series/movies and so on (not gaming).
The games you tested are using the smaller gpu internal to the cpu.
You needed to turn on performance mode on the laptops so it will use the dedicated GPU.
You could have gotten 2 to 3 times the performance.
That goes for most of your Zen2 laptops with dedicated GPUs.
@@lb5928 this one does not have "dedicated gpu", only the igpu Vega 6
@@lb5928 this does not have a dedicated gpu.
I really do appreciate you taking the time to add these chapters. Hopefully, TH-cam AI will be able to automate making chapters. Anyway thank for another great review.
Well this aged well
A thin-and-light that can still do light gaming. The future is now.
not to mention a 2 in 1. really is insane for the price
My Spectre 2 in 1 had a GTX 1650 in it
60 years from now
People: The Future in now!
Glad I just got mine from Amazon. I see they are out of stock now and only offer a used one for $740, rather than the $600 I paid for new. These new AMD APUs are pretty impressive.
@@Fishwithadeagle I think the user may have also been talking about the value of the Lenovo Flex. There had been laptops in the past that could do light gaming despite their thin form factors.
Lon I watched your Swift 3 Review and heavily anticipated this Flex 5 Review. I love how you break up your videos (so simple yet important!) and your in-depth analysis. Easy subscribe :)
This is exactly the review I was looking for. Thanks!
Ikr! Finally there’s someone who does a great and thorough review
This is exactly the review for this laptop that I was looking for. You went over pretty much everything that I was looking for information on, while being clear and informative about every topic. I also love how you had heaps of shots showing off the laptop, how it looks, and how it moves. I wish every review could be as effective as this one. Thank you so much!
Will speak for every viewer/consumer, giving you a huge THANK YOU!!!!! Of the hundreds of channels I've watched & now looked into.. you are ONE of less than I can count on one hand, unfortunately.... who actually does what is legally required to protect your viewers/consumers! For being what has become rare gems, rather than the norm... as far as living w/ integrity goes.. So, thank you for doing what everyone should be doing... Fully + properly disclosing what, where & how you should, when showing & talking about products. Your transparency is greatly appreciated! I wish more would follow your lead. As is, they are taking advantage of the very people they should be most loyal to & transparent with, imho. The viewers & consumers, who... in # & without, they wouldn't even have these opportunites; nor continue to. Sad & kind of a slap to the face to be deceived, lied to & taken advantage of.... just so they can better line their own pockets while trying to seem & present as genuine, not influenced in any way... content. They think viewers have an issue w/ sponsored content. NO.... we have an issue w/ sponsored content, free products, paid mentions, pre-approved reviews, affiliate/referral links, bias & connections to..... that aren't disclosed as such. Thanks again... for your honesty & for sharing your thoughts & opinions so WE can make better purchasing decisions. :) Stay safe & be well.
Appreciate the chapters so much, thanks!
i rarley subscribe but this guy does such a great job, I can really see the effort. Seems like a chill dude
This is really one of the best reviews I saw on this model! Thank you so much!
About to buy this beast of a laptop, thanks for the in depth review. This is the most helpful one yet
Did you buy it? How is the laptop?
@@santhoshnagarajan1428 its really good. I still mainly use my desktop pc but its refreshing to have a really fast laptop when i need it. not great for gaming (no dedicated gpu i believe) but it handles all tasks really fast. Take care of the battery and you'll have a solid machine.
What I really like about this channel is that Lon tries to run Linux on his reviews! Good job and thank you!
I bought this thing and so far, I'm extremely impressed. It boots extremely fast and from off to browsing the internet it takes just about 12 seconds. The gaming performance is great: It can handle Civ 6 at 1080p 60 if you turn down settings and i was getting around 45 fps in Fallout 4 again at 1080p low. The build quality is very solid.
Hey can you tell me that does keyboard bother you while using this as a tablet. Like does it feel little uncomfortable.
does the body get any scratches easily? please answer
@@inoskehashibira2677 It can feel a bit weird at first, but you'll get used to it.
also
@aysatsana I've had mine for about 3 weeks and so far it still looks new / no scratches or anything (which I'm kinda surprised about, cuz I bring it w/me everywhere and transfer it in a backpack full of stuff)
Can you tell me how well it performs in tasks such as video editing/rendering or even Photoshop? Cyber Monday is tomorrow and I know this is short notice but would REALLY REALLY appreciate your take =)
@@thecassandraeffectvsperilo6754 I'm probably late (rlly sorry I couldn' t reply earlier), but I'll try to answer.
I use this laptop regularly for work in Photoshop and Illustrator and it performs great! I've never encountered any problem while working in PS or doing illustrations.
Good thing to know is that the display is only around 60% sRGB, so the colours aren't that accurate.
As far as editing goes, I haven't tried it out as much yet, but from what I've tried it is definitely able to handle 1080p edit & render. Higher res. videos would most likely drop quite a bit of frames, but I think that's expected, considering the price of the laptop and it's components.
Finally, an ACTUAL review about a product. I appreciate the effort that you put into this video. Thanks.
Thanks for testing on linux, very appreciated !
The linux section is great addition, not a lot of reviewers out there looking out for us linux users
This is fantastic value for the money. Wow.
Ive never bought myself a laptop, but these new Ryzen 4000 series laptops are very tempting. Great channel btw. I appreciate the Linux testing as I don't use Windows. Subscribed 👍
Crazy you are living your life wo a laptop. Get one soon!
@@zerocal76 I know. I used to repair them at my first job 20 years ago. Built so many desktops, got tablets, smart phones. Never a laptop. That will soon change :-)
@@zerocal76 I have laptop and good gaming pc, all i can say is that notebook was just waist of money. There are practically no scenarios for its use, except for work on the road
@@glroman91 Of course man, what do you expect! lol If u have a good PC and u dont work on the road or at school, you'll never need a laptop. I havent used my laptop since the quarantines started. But when they are over, i'll use it almost weekly!
@@zerocal76 is it already released?
what an excellent and thorough video. I had so many questions about this laptop and I now feel so knowledgeable. Brilliant work!!
The first review I've seen that even tried running Linux. That and all the other details you went over convinced me that this is the laptop I need. Performant enough to do everything I want to at a decent price point. Thank you so much for a thorough review!
I just bought this last night for school, can't wait for it to come in. Your reviews are amazing.
Hello! Can you give a review now?
I love the disclosure up front
love the description
Great review as always!!!
The review is great! Thanks for it
Thank you for the Linux support part!!! I was worried if it wouldn't work well.
Man, what a good video. Thanks.
Awesome review, are considering do a review on the new Redmibook ryzen edition ? Thanks a million
Thanks to this review, I just bought this for $599 on Amazon (Nov 2020) and I can’t wait to get it in my hands. I think I will end up keeping this amazing laptop for years!
Current thoughts on it? o:
Great to see new AMD laptops
I'm fairly interested in the new redmi book 16 with the Ryzen H series processor. Being such a thin laptop, I find it interesting that they went with the full power 45w H series chips instead of the U series like the one found here. It seems like the screen could be pretty great for content creation or photo editing as well considering it's wide color gamut. You should do a review on it! Very few of the bigger tech channels cover the full spectrum of Chinese laptops unfortunately so it'd be nice to see a comprehensive reviewer like yourself do their take on one as unique as the redmi book 16!
PS your videos are great, keep up the good work!!
Why are so many TH-cam channels doing a review on this laptop? Thanks for making this amazing video btw
Thanks for doing a Linux test! I bought this machine due to your Linux review
Hey, does the stylus work well in Linux?
Great review! Is it worth putting tempered glass over the touchscreen? Would the pen still work?
Not a lot of reviews on this specific laptop so I appreciate this Lon. Looks like a killer deal!
It was... now on Amazon is at 650 or higher... 😐 got the previous model with R5 3500u at 525$ and it was a great deal... but still sad that couldn't get the newer model when it came out at around 550... would've been a great upgrade
Great channel.
11.27 Cloudgate Benchmark you have the device listed as being an Acer instead of Lenovo computer.
great analysis what's I'm looking for ... please more videos for same category 2in1 with average of money and performance
Wow VERY helpful! Thank you
This is Such A great review
Very detailed content. However, i think you could grow the channel significantly faster if you modernize the background and editing.
Great review! Just wish I could actually buy one for that $599 MSRP. I reached out to Lenovo support and they said it's no longer in production, but I can buy a "newer" model that is identical but with 8GB of RAM for the same price. Feels kinda like a bait-and-switch by Lenovo.
They have it on Amazon
I need a thinkpad version with the 4500u :) they are slowly being rolled out but the wait is excrutiating
many thx for highlighting that the type-c doesn't support display out. bummer
Intel boards are the only ones to support thunderbolt for now.
That is a gorgeous looking screen
I hope u are kidding
I am most likely going to buy this one for high school! It seems to be the best laptop for the price, with a 14" screen
What did you end up getting?
The yoga is good too.
@@rubenbarrera7338 flex 5 with ryzen 5 4500u. I think it's a solid option. The touch screen is actually more useful than I thought too.. +actually paid under 400€ for it which was a crazy good price for it.
@@RealLagu Nice!
How was the screen? That's my only concern.
@@rubenbarrera7338 Its good enough. I mean it's nothing close to an oled panel, but you cant expect that at this price range. So, it's enough for inside use (have never tried it outside) and yeah... No complaints
Very useful review.
I have a 2400g apu and this laptop is like the portable version of that. I’m considering getting one so I can take my light gaming on the go!
portable version? performance wise?
because hardware wise the 4000G APUs will be comparable to this
I would like to see how these laptops perform in tasks such as video editing/rendering or even Photoshop.
I'm looking forward on it too
same here!! (:
Up
Me too 😅😅
Yes
Hey lon, would you recommend this laptop for video editing on Adobe premiere.
Nice review. Hope u can review and compare lenovo ideapad slim 5 vs asus vivobook m433. Thanks
Good review . How to turn on the light of the keyboard?
very interesting laptop, keeping an eye on it
Just got one last month. Amazing beast
current thoughts on it?
@@_darbo Til now I've tried video editing only - premier pro and after affects. Works like a charm. No lag nothing at all. And yesterday I've downloaded Apex on Steam. Haven't played it yet or any other games. Will give some thoughts later.
Yes, a 2in1 Linux device, finally! Where is the buy button?
Hey Lon, I'm planning on buying either the acer swift 3 or this one. Which one would you recommend for students?
I'm recently ripping all my DVDs with this laptop with the use of an external DVD player and I'm happy to inform it is performing as a champ.
Always happy to see an AMD processor doing well, thanks for the review...you didn’t say if the screen was IPS
40% srgb ips
This is a great machine. This can be all I need. Since I'n not a gamer or content creator, I can get a lot done with this
Nice review sir
If the memory is soldered onto the board, what about if/when the memory goes bad? How do you replace it?
Could you review the ideapad sibling from Lenovo? Heard it's similar in performance
If you have Linux issues with brightness or graphics make sure you are running kernel 5.5 or higher bc the Renoir amd graphics were experimental before that (Ubuntu 20.04 ships with 5.4)
If you can't find this model, look up the Lenovo Flex-14API. I have this laptop and it is basically the exact same thing as this, but the speakers are on the bottom, and there's a strange bezel for grip in tablet mode.
hi, great video.
Please can you make a comparison between this, Ideapad 5 AMD, Zenbook 14, envy x360, redmibook 16? thanks
The games you tested are using the smaller gpu internal to the cpu.
You needed to turn on performance mode on the laptops so it will use the dedicated GPU.
You could have gotten 2 to 3 times the performance.
That goes for most of your Zen2 laptops with dedicated GPUs.
The extra performance over Acer Swift 3 is due to 16GB memory compared to the 8gb in Acer. Unlike the Ryzen 3000 series which reserve fix amount memory from the Ram all the time, I noticed that these 4000 series initially reserve 512MB and that gets dynamically increased based on the Workload. You can see that in AMD Adrenaline driver that 512MB is reserved. My IdeaPad 5 was allocating over 3GB while running Withcher 3 since it has 16GB memory and it would be lower in Acer Swift 3 as it has only 8gb ram. Also, Lenovo let's the APU use up to 25W for longer duration when connected to power and that's another contributing factor as it allows both cpu and gpu to boost for longer duration.
I don’t know crap about computers but I either want this or the acer 3. What do you recommend for light gaming and what’s better in general
@@nik5626 The one with more RAM.
@@nik5626 From his description i believe the lenovo is better than the acer for gaming and has better screen. Probably best to got with the higher spec processor for the lenovo
@@nik5626 IdeaPad 5 model with Ryzen 7 4700u and 16gb ddr4 or the Flex 5 model with 4700u and 16gb ram, which was available at Costco at $750.
Extra performance on Lenovo is mostly from limited sustained power limit (18W) on Acer 4700U, which is not enough for it to boost both CPU and iGPU, and also- from DDR4 3200 RAM which has lower latencies, than LPDDR4 3200 used in that Acer model.
Are you reviewing the Huawei Matebook D soon? It’s a good one
Lon, can you add FIFA 2020 as ur gaming test review for us outside the US? We dont really play a lot of US games
Great video! I have a question, what laptop would you recommend? HP Envy x360 15" with the Ryzon 5 4500u and 256GB or the Lenovo Ideapad Flex 5 14" also with the Ryzon 5 4500u but 512GB. Both have 8GB of RAM but the HP cost 100€ more. What would you recommend?
Thanks
Hp one has a more color accurate display
Hello Lon.Tv in the next video do a video about the Asus Tuf Gaming Fx504
Very good review as usual. I wonder how is the thermal management in comparison with an intel chip equivalent. AMD cpus prior this generation of Rayzen had a reputation of running really hot. Are they still running hotter than intel cpus? Taking into consideration such a good performance of rayzen chips, at a lower price than equivalent intels, if the thermal management is similar... I may shift to AMD the next time.
Ryzen 4000 series runs much cooler than comparable Intel far more superior in efficiency. There's literally zero reason to get an Intel laptop unless you are buying something outside the processor itself like Intel one has the color you want that's not offered on AMD ones or certain Intel only GPu options that has nothing to do with the cpu itself.
I bought about 20 of these in the last year and a half. I believe I had to warranty 6 of them. Won't turn on, USB breaks, won't charge, screen shattering because of how the camera is misaligned, etc. There was another with a HD that died but I swapped that out myself. Thing is, everyone likes these. They run well, but make 100% sure that you keep the warranty live.
The performance difference between the Acer (with 4700U) and the ideapad (with 4500U) is mostly due to the RAM type that both used.
Bahut achha review
wow that's a good review!!!!!
Both of these that I ordered had faulty network adaptors and caused my network to crash over and over and while it would load a page of a web browser, none of the links would load. I would not purchase a 3rd time.
Excellent detailed and informative review. Really enjoy your reviews including the stats that you provide. Thumbs up.
Wow. It seems like a good deal for digital artists
Hey what your views on the Lenovo yoga s740 as iv not found a single review in English or any other language on TH-cam
I'd be very interested in your opinion on HP ProBook 445 G7 - also comes with 4500u :-)
I love the studio you're filming on, so tired of those RGB manchild studios
Unless in battery saver mode the fan on this thing fires up intermittently and loudly, almost whistling. On charge the thing whines constantly. If you Google this it seems I am not alone with this Lenovo driven problem. Loved the fit and finish and speed of the Ryzen 5 but if I wanted to live next door to a major airport I might not be bothered by the sound of this thing being drowned out! It got returned and I suggest you try one out in a store before you buy. Hope this helps y'all.
I really appreciate your detailed and thorough reviews. I need your advise, I recently purchased a ThinkPad L14 with AMD Ryzen 5 PRO
4650U, 8GB DDR4-3200, 256GB M.2 SSD, 45Wh battery, Multitouch 300 nits IPS Display and I paid $740, the laptop will be mainly used by my 10 years old son for his online studies. But after I saw this review, I was thinking of switching to Lenovo Flex 5 with AMD Ryzen 4500U, 16GB DDR4-3200, 256GB M.2 SSD and a pen and it will be cheaper than the L14 by about $100. Do you recommend staying with the L14 or switch to Flex 5? Practicality and durability is very important.
The thinkpad will be much more durable
This might be a stupid question, but when you say it can function as a tablet, does that mean the monitor can disconnect from the base and you can carry it around like a tablet (presumably on some kind of battery), or just that you can fold it in half so as to use like a tablet?
would you recommend the i5 g1 + mx330 & 8gb ram? i dont do anything special with this laptop.
FYI: Wifi 6 cards are about $20-$25 on amazon and can easily be swapped into this device.
why should i do that, if i only have a wifi ac router? i think most people didnt upgrade to wifi ax.
I think what is important is that an AC card and AX card don't have a price difference, so why not have it inbuilt? rather than open it your system and swap them out.
I'm simply saying, if you want this laptop to be wifi 6 compatible, you can make it so.
@@alpay389 Wifi 6 cards usually come with bluetooth 5 as well while this one has 4.2 by default, so you might see a benefit there as well. Though admittedly it's not a necessary upgrade for most people. It could also fix issues of wifi cutting out if you have that happening.
@@zalyster are you sure that wifi 6 card will also upgrade the blutooth version from default 4.2 to blutooth 5.1. If yes then what will happen to the blutooth 4.2 present in the laptop.
Basically it's a failure as a 2-in-1 because the keyboard speaker placement means rear firing sound in tablet and tent mode so it's easy to muffle the read sound if you place it on your lap, for instance. Or are there still smaller slits on the bottom that allow the sound to fire forward when in tablet and tent mode?
Disappointed that the ram is not upgradable but I found out that the ideaPad models with soldered memory are all in dual channel for max performance except the 4GB configuration.
Overall which one would you prefer? The acer swift 3 or this?
when buying this from lenovos website you have to select the backlit keyboard. It costs £10 more and is not the default. So when you customise the laptop you have to go to the Keyboard section at the bottom, select change and then press backlit keyboard. Its worth it.
I purchased a lenovo flex 5 with i5 intel processor. removed the memory and the hard drive. put 16gigs of ram, 1-M.2 - 1- terabyte ssd drive for my main drive and 1- terabyte ssd drive for second drive. Thing is very fast boots up to windows 10 in 4 sec. don't be afraid to gut the laptop with better quality/quantity parts.
Isnt the color quality bad though?
If the RAM is soldered on did you swap out out?
Please review the Lenovo Ideapad Slim 5 14" too!
Does this Ryzen 4500U work good with Cubase or any other digital audio workstation?
Hello, I am thinking of buying the amd-ryzen 5 5500U model of this device. Do you think its battery, touch and general performance will be enough for a daily user? Is there a feature you don't like?
Planning to buy this for college but as well play games with my friends. Will this be able to run Minecraft with mods?
the specs for its price make it an incredible machine.
I'm struggling to find this laptop in the UK. Has it been rebranded under a different name? Also, ryzen 5 4000 series seems to be rare here.
What is the screensaver image of ?.. and Do you have a link for it because ID like to use it thanks from Australia
Just ordered an ipad pro so that I can use the apple pencil to draw digitally since it seems like the best tool for that, but if I didn't have enough money I would totally buy this laptop tablet combo. Seems like its serviceable in the drawing touchscreen category and also a pretty strong computer. Awesome review as always Lon!
thanks for the linux!