[1242] NYT Wirecutter Says These Are The Best Bike Locks

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  • @loganlachance1890
    @loganlachance1890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8100

    LPL's greatest weapon, the pick he and bosnian bill made.

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one 3 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      It's a name now, so it's The Pick Bosnian Bill and I made :D

    • @Rose_Butterfly98
      @Rose_Butterfly98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It's designed now

    • @xnownxinc5680
      @xnownxinc5680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      we need a new category ..

    • @aserta
      @aserta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Nah. It's the friendship he made along.

    • @TheExxse
      @TheExxse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      you meant "The Pick Bosnian Bill and I made(, which is now on sale)" xD

  • @elevatorz89
    @elevatorz89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4227

    "Nobody had the correct tools"
    LPL: I guess they didn't buy the pick Bosnianbill and I made.

    • @larper8or851
      @larper8or851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      As a professional locksmith and hobbyist lockpicker, no, they don't. It's not financially worthwhile to buy this tool because we so very rarely deal with them in the field, and truth be told, we usually wind up just cutting them off. I have one that I bought with my own money, and it lives on my desk at home, because when I told my boss about it, his response was that it was waste of money for a toy I don't need.

    • @terravarious
      @terravarious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They've been out of stock for how long?

    • @larper8or851
      @larper8or851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@terravarious weeks? Months? I'll admit, it can be difficult to lay your hands on one.

    • @schlong8276
      @schlong8276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@larper8or851 The last time it was stocked. they ran out in minutes, and that tooks them more than about 5 months to make more

    • @TheHiroClaw123
      @TheHiroClaw123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@larper8or851 As a professional, how much of what LPL does do you think is realistic, and is there anything about him that uninformed audiences don't really pick up?

  • @TheWallaB
    @TheWallaB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5851

    After picking 5000 disc detainer cores, LPL has finally unlocked the Carbon Black skin for the pick that he and Bosnian Bill made

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      That's the factory colour for the ones mass produced by sparrows.

    • @michaelsebastian2842
      @michaelsebastian2842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

      @@johndododoe1411 You forgot the "Ackchyually"

    • @butterlerpunch
      @butterlerpunch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Gold skin when?

    • @Imurai
      @Imurai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      @@butterlerpunch that's a DLC, and LPL is smarter than getting fooled into microtransactions

    • @CodeKujo
      @CodeKujo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "unlock", har har

  • @ToddHowardWithAGun
    @ToddHowardWithAGun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2354

    The fact it took you 30 seconds to pick this is honestly a ringing endorsement of this type of lock.

    • @musclegeek1991
      @musclegeek1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +284

      Another thing to bear in mind is that you’re supposed to try to lock up the bike in a way that makes the keyway difficult to access.

    • @indianakernick3788
      @indianakernick3788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Fiddling around with a bike lock for that long on the sidewalk would look pretty sus

    • @noneofyourbeeswax7296
      @noneofyourbeeswax7296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +544

      @@indianakernick3788 Then again, bystanders don't give a fuck and are too scared to do anything most of the time.

    • @Newb118
      @Newb118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeh its pathetic, halfords are selling these for £60!

    • @thepassionofthegoose5472
      @thepassionofthegoose5472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@musclegeek1991 On a city parked motorcycles I face my lock in a position that makes using the key difficult, which has worked well since on more than one occasion someone tried to steal a bike I had U-locked.

  • @DoctorChained
    @DoctorChained 3 ปีที่แล้ว +597

    NYT updated their article: "In February 2021, a TH-cam expert who goes by the name LockPickingLawyer posted a video in which he said that tools for picking disc-detainer locks were becoming more common-in fact, he designed one himself that’s now available online and that he used to open our top pick in 46 seconds and our upgrade pick in 58 seconds. Given that the brute-force methods we tried took even less time to destroy a lock, though, we remain less worried about lock picking than we do about bolt cutters and angle irons."

    • @treescompany3462
      @treescompany3462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Between "angle irons" and the ambiguous phrase that can imply that LPL designed a disc detainer lock and not a pick, im really hoping this isn't a direct quote from the NYT because these typos are SOMETHING

    • @ilmpyt
      @ilmpyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      That's dumb, those other methods are way too violent, why not taking the whole rake of bikes parked and throwing it into a van? The dangers of picking is that it's a lot smoother and doesn't grab unnecessary attention. Following this line of thought, angle grinder will always win eventually. Silly.

    • @DoctorChained
      @DoctorChained 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      @@ilmpyt but they're right. Criminals normally cut through bike locks, not pick them. If you want a truly unpickable bike lock get a forever lock. Just because it can't be picked doesn't make it the most secure lock ever.

    • @lmaoroflcopter
      @lmaoroflcopter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ilmpyt no-one cares about attention aside from the opportunistic thief, which a zip tie would likely protect against. Proper criminals will battery angle grinder the thing off, or use battery powered hydraulic cutters now available.

    • @ennuiii
      @ennuiii ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@DoctorChainedI know two dudes that steal bikes with these tools now in broad daylight lol, can't do that with an angle grinder

  • @BFedie518
    @BFedie518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +826

    "Relatively safe *for now* "
    Gotta love how he's directly responsible for that "for now" lol

    • @gergokerekes4550
      @gergokerekes4550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      thing is, it is only the normal person who just learned this now, a good bike thief probably has this already down.

    • @bigd7861
      @bigd7861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@gergokerekes4550 WAY to slow for a bike thief! Battery powered saws all with a carbide blade. 👍

    • @psychedalek
      @psychedalek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gergokerekes4550 that's not a thing. the thing is what the OP posted, and he's right

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@psychedalek those are totally things. I sell four different brands in the hardware store where I work.

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bigd7861 well at a point you might as well sew whatever the bike is locked to

  • @Grim_Beard
    @Grim_Beard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    04:12 So these locks _were_ fairly secure until LPL and Bosnian Bill designed and marketed a tool to defeat them.

    • @420jessw
      @420jessw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      There is other disc detainer picks on the market, most are more expensive though.

    • @cericat
      @cericat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@420jessw and often less versatile, the efforts BB and LPL put into the design and improving it made for what they saw as experienced pickers as necessary in a disc detainer pick makes for a very nice little pick that is easy to use and decode with compared to most other offerings.

    • @drudigger
      @drudigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could use a 5 dollar one and just sand it down.

  • @jerry3115
    @jerry3115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3124

    Someone: disk detainer can't be picked
    Lpl: how many times do I need to teach you this lesson, old man?

    • @duwb0
      @duwb0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      They know it can be picked, they just want to see the tool that BosnianBill & LPL made.

    • @schlong8276
      @schlong8276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I once saw a thief outside of my house trying to rake my neighbour's cheap DD lock with a rake then proceed to switch to a dimple lock rake and try again...

    • @fredrickseiler4492
      @fredrickseiler4492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @asdrubale bisanzio Sponge Bob references are the best! LOL

    • @Just_A_Dude
      @Just_A_Dude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      LPL's the Old Master though, so I think it'd more "You have much to learn, Grasshopper."

    • @chnet968
      @chnet968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There aren't mechanical locks that cannot be picked. As long as it can be opened with a key, it can be opened.
      The difference is just whether you can readily get the tool to pick it, and the skill required to pick.

  • @roninnder
    @roninnder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +782

    I just checked the article and they have updated it to no longer call these locks unpickable, but rather “...should foil all but the most savvy criminal using specialty tools.”

    • @rampoatchess2758
      @rampoatchess2758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      That mean they watched this. Good for them.

    • @neilwinter9862
      @neilwinter9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hi dad

    • @Senhordaverdadeabsol
      @Senhordaverdadeabsol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      " but the most savvy criminal using specialty tools.”, a.k.a LPL

    • @CHR15718N
      @CHR15718N 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Well, LPL took more then 10 second to pick each of them… Thieves are probably taking the bolt cutter.

    • @nolyspe
      @nolyspe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "both sides" new york times strikes again

  • @phoenixbloomfield8946
    @phoenixbloomfield8946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Honestly, at least around here, as long as the lock doesn't basically fall open the only thing that matters about it is how thick and hard the metal is. Bike theft is incredibly common and the locks are pretty much never picked; they're always broken into using bolt cutters or an angle grinder. Lock pick resistance doesn't matter a ton when you can cut any lock in under 5 minutes with a handheld battery operated angle grinder. Even if someone sees a thief in the act they're finished by the time cops show up (happened last year right outside my building).

    • @nicholaswood3250
      @nicholaswood3250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Essentially all bike locks function to be secure enough to force the sort of person who steals bikes to use an angle grinder.

    • @adameordogh3065
      @adameordogh3065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had my kriptonite ev 4 u-lock picked in the ground floor garage of the condo... In Europe picking is not that uncommon.

    • @toonman361
      @toonman361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am a bit skeptical that bike theft is "incredibly common." what kinds of bikes and what value?

    • @adameordogh3065
      @adameordogh3065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@toonman361 In the past two years I have had a downhil bike stollen form our basement worth of 3000€ MSRP, a carbon road bike stolen near a train station at 2200 € MSRP Both of these were locked with krypronie ev. U-locks. I also had a 300€ MSRP fixie stolen also at a train station but it was locked with a less secure lock. All three of these thefts happened in Switzerland. I would say bike theft is quite common.

    • @JohnArktor
      @JohnArktor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toonman361 just any bike. just any bike...

  • @lef1354
    @lef1354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3409

    NYT: nobody has the tools to pick these.
    The tool that BosniAnBill and I made has enter the chat.
    NYT: shit...

    • @dan2800
      @dan2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I laughed at this way too much then i should

    • @StevePinkham
      @StevePinkham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      It's funny.. But on the other hand, if you go to a lockpicking meetup and nobody has the tool let alone the skills to use it, it does say something about the real world chance of yours getting picked..

    • @kidthorazine
      @kidthorazine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      yeah but really, pretty much nobody outside of some locksmiths and a really hardcore subset of the locksport community has the tools or skills to open these.

    • @apaajaboleh104
      @apaajaboleh104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      NYT : Did I just hear Boss music?

    • @SportyMabamba
      @SportyMabamba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kryptonite Lock design Dept: why do we hear boss music?

  • @CloroxBleach-cq7tj
    @CloroxBleach-cq7tj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +907

    2 locks in 4 minutes, and he spends 1 min talking.
    Damm that poor author

    • @Zaapiel22
      @Zaapiel22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Even worse, it's nearly 2 minutes before he moves the disks as far as they can go.

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Zaapiel22 clockwise!

    • @marloso2
      @marloso2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Still a good survival time, against LPL

    • @Nachtwind7
      @Nachtwind7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      that author was paid to write a kryptonite as, and he did so successfully.

    • @GGov86
      @GGov86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Nachtwind7 Do you have a better recommendation, or are you just one of those cynical morons who thinks nothing is genuine anymore?

  • @Davidesrajohn
    @Davidesrajohn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3084

    Oh cool that's my bike lock. Can't wait to have my trust in it destroyed in 1 minute flat.

    • @sakaraist
      @sakaraist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      don't worry, my bike with it was already stolen a while back lmao

    • @davidwebb4904
      @davidwebb4904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Insurance....

    • @sobhaks7231
      @sobhaks7231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@davidwebb4904 bycycles have insurance?

    • @davidwebb4904
      @davidwebb4904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@sobhaks7231 if you it, you can get it. Insurance companies will insure anything, for a price.

    • @davidwebb4904
      @davidwebb4904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      How much is your bike worth, out of curiosity 😁 And where do you usually park it? Asking for a friend....

  • @Finn-qo7gq
    @Finn-qo7gq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +606

    I think lock companies should use LPL as a way to test their locks before putting them on the market. If the lock lasts more than a minute with him, it’s basically invincible against anyone else

    • @187BulletProof1
      @187BulletProof1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      It's actually already happening. Some companies send him the prototype locks to mess with so he can come up with improvement suggestions.

    • @capisenior
      @capisenior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Must be pretty upsetting for the engineers to spend months designing a model to watch it get picked in 3 seconds

    • @goku445
      @goku445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@capisenior Honestly, that would just mean they suck.

    • @extremetea
      @extremetea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah i don't think the LPL understands just how much better he is than the rest of us at picking locks. Although i will say that back when we were bad kids we robbed soda machines with a tube pick made out of a bullet casing rubber bands and Bobby pins. I think it was..38cal lmao good times

    • @sniper8567
      @sniper8567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If it was inexpensive and easy to do a lock tike that, they would. But it is not.

  • @Tortilla.Reform
    @Tortilla.Reform ปีที่แล้ว +138

    The anxiety I have watching this video, while I sit in a doctors office knowing my electric bike is locked up with one of these locks across the street is palpable

    • @block_head_steve240
      @block_head_steve240 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      just face the keyhole away in a way that makes it inconvenient to pick

    • @LipziG3R
      @LipziG3R ปีที่แล้ว +20

      make if face towards a wall or downwards, include a chain and another lock. Especially with an e-bike, where weight matters less I would go with 2-3 locks connected with one another. That means you'd have to pick multiples in different angles or you'd have to brute force multiple ... both is something a thief is absolutely not looking for.

    • @iPizzaSlice
      @iPizzaSlice 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@LipziG3R
      Impractical to a Dasher

  • @dinkeykong
    @dinkeykong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +926

    “Say the line Bart!”
    “The pick that BosnianBill and I made.”
    “YAAAAAAAAAAY”

    • @johnsmith1926
      @johnsmith1926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I sometimes wonder if he just uses samples of his old videos for 'the line'..

    • @gawainfoster1930
      @gawainfoster1930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@johnsmith1926 Not on this one! Today he said "The pick BosnianBill and I DESIGNED". Cheeky bastard.

    • @cdevidal
      @cdevidal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn’t do it

  • @kieranbennettmedia
    @kieranbennettmedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7007

    "These tools are not hard to get, they are inexpensive, and the skills are easy to develop"
    Says the man who developed the tool in question, gave the design away to keep it inexpensive, and publishes widely watched how to videos ;)

    • @sergiplanas6427
      @sergiplanas6427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +612

      Bike owner: 🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭

    • @granitedreamer3405
      @granitedreamer3405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +725

      As much as I do enjoy these videos, that aspect of them has me baffled

    • @Shaoraka
      @Shaoraka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +765

      @@granitedreamer3405 Right ? I do enjoy watching these, but every time he gives an easy trick to open a common lock i think "dude how many bikes are going to get stolen thanks to this".

    • @GleamingJadeRabbit
      @GleamingJadeRabbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +963

      @@Shaoraka there's actually a reason people do this. see, the idea is that if you show the companies what they did wrong, eventually they'll fix their crap. in the economy we have, doing this lights a fire under the lock company's ass. the more he does this, the tighter security will get, thus people's belongings will be safer. it's a "this is going to be hell for people today, but the people of the future are going to be better for it" kind of thing, it's much like exercise. it hurts now, but we'll all be better for it later.

    • @Shaoraka
      @Shaoraka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

      @@GleamingJadeRabbit And I get that, no problem, it's just that I know for a fact that quite a few tricks he gave as far back as 1 or 2 years back are still usable simply because the companies don't care. If they even saw it, they didn't act on it.
      I absolutely support the idea, just sometimes it doesn't work and then it does the opposite.

  • @tyroland06
    @tyroland06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1147

    NYT: "These are the best."
    LPL: And I took that personally...

    • @aserta
      @aserta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      NYT lied as easily as they didn't pay their line writers masquerading as journalists.

    • @Niskirin
      @Niskirin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aserta NYT truly is the worst anime girl.

    • @BlackIndigenousPosse
      @BlackIndigenousPosse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why would he take it personally? A best lock does exist... Dipshit. Stop trying to force shitty memes into every comment that you write.

    • @AndrewWellsPlus
      @AndrewWellsPlus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aserta It's not a lie, what's a better bike lock out there in the same price range? Plus if you read their articles, they say they're the best for "most consumers" not the best possible option out there.

    • @sr972
      @sr972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BlackIndigenousPosse he took it personally cause they said they weren't pickable dipshit. And you know he's a lock picker.

  • @tomokokuroki2506
    @tomokokuroki2506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +876

    LPL: mass-produces the tool that Bosnian Bill and he made
    Lock companies: *oh god*

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      **raises his hands and looks towards the horizon** "Behold!!"
      **as regiments of disc retainer picks march past below his position**

    • @fr4nk_m
      @fr4nk_m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All the Locks Companies left the chat

    • @shantygaming694
      @shantygaming694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      And normal people are caught in the cross fire.

    • @sharkforce8147
      @sharkforce8147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shantygaming694 you could already buy a pick for disk detainer picks for about 5 bucks (iirc, I actually saw one once on wal-mart's online store). they were just a lot crappier, or more expensive and custom-made.

    • @AlexMint
      @AlexMint 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@shantygaming694 Yeah seriously, fuck LPL, I want my bike back.

  • @9rune5
    @9rune5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    I would love to see a top-10 list of bike locks with good cores. I need to replace my old Master lock that LPL picked with a toothpick while blindfolded under water.

    • @phoule76
      @phoule76 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the toothpick he designed with Bosnian Bill? that's a fine toothpick right there

    • @darkgtptitan
      @darkgtptitan ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You forgot the part about trying to break into the sharks bike while the shark was watching.

  • @jfrtwo
    @jfrtwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Wirecutter does a good job at picking a really good option for most of the public, most of the time. You did good job explaining the fallability of Wirecutter, too, all while stating they had a tough job. I'm still thinking that most thieves don't carry your tool with them. Good job!

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Most are carrying bolt cutters or battery-powered saws.

    • @dirkkoenig6122
      @dirkkoenig6122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I really love Wirecutter and trust when they say "this is the best value...(whatever)". I also appreciate LPL ensuring that I understand lock security is just a matter of time, skill, tools and level of destruction...

    • @yt650
      @yt650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are a lot of bicycles for sale in the area where I live and it looks like there’s a bicycle for every child in this area both size and style. I know for a fact the individual selling them does not buy them one at a time off of people he buys them off of people from a large city 8 or 10 at a time from people who do carry tools, I also think from people who have plausible deny-ability. Happens a lot along the coast where there are tourists and on the East Coast the bikes come out of major cities like New York city.

    • @terravarious
      @terravarious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@lairdcummings9092 Fastbikes did a test years ago with a couple motorcycle thieves that had been released from jail. They opened even lock in less than 30 second with a 10 ton porta power. The only thing they avoided was a disk lock because you couldn't get the portapower ram on it. Cordless grinders render those useless, but make noise. The advantage of the porta power is that it's also quiet.
      At the end of the test they apologized for being so slow, but the ram the editor supplied was a sloppy piece of crap.
      The only reason to pick a lock is to cover up the fact that it was opened. There is almost always a low skill brute force attack to any lock.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@terravarious exactly. Brute force is crude, but fast.
      Grinders and saws are noisy, but portable, concealable, cheap, and fast enough. A portable hydraulic cutter is faster and quieter, but heavier, and a more difficult to conceal.
      Trade-off; you choose your target, style, and tool.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    I guess you could say Kryptonite's Kryptonite is *_"the pick that BosnianBill and he made"_*

    • @_vicary
      @_vicary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's "The pick that BosnianBill and *I* made".

    • @imprincesswolfy2565
      @imprincesswolfy2565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_vicary did you make it?

    • @eldinmekic3756
      @eldinmekic3756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@imprincesswolfy2565 well that's why it's written in quotes...

  • @Tgbec
    @Tgbec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +724

    The comments section on the NYT site, “have you seen this vid”.

    • @galloway_joseph
      @galloway_joseph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      They disabled comments on the article lolololol

    • @DatBoiOrly
      @DatBoiOrly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@galloway_joseph oof that sucks

    • @74jojo
      @74jojo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Not everyone can take being questioned or getting critique. 😉😄

    • @brownro214
      @brownro214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@74jojo Especially the New York Times

    • @torbenmayer
      @torbenmayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@galloway_joseph Not true, just accept the cookies

  • @esmoshure1617
    @esmoshure1617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    "These are relatively safe for now..." until the lockpick I designed catches on among thieves.

    • @aralornwolf3140
      @aralornwolf3140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or they come out with faster saws...

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@aralornwolf3140 That's hardened steel. Only an angle grinder can cut it.
      In a previous video about one of these, he mentioned that the manufacturer or the media did a test of leaving a bike secured with it in NYC unattended for several days, and it was still there, with traces of a few cutting attempts.

    • @aralornwolf3140
      @aralornwolf3140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivan_pozdeev_u ,
      Faster angle cutters then, lol.

    • @TheDonutMan3000
      @TheDonutMan3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aralornwolf3140 angle grinders aren’t the most covert technique to break open a lock. They’re very loud and create a lot of bright sparks when cutting steel. A ‚faster‘ grinder wouldn’t really do you much good, since it would worsen said issues.

    • @aralornwolf3140
      @aralornwolf3140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDonutMan3000 ,
      Yes... the bike would still be stolen, right?

  • @vampiremonkeyonspeed
    @vampiremonkeyonspeed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1020

    "Strange that nobody has heard of this very common tool that I designed"

    • @mementomori4972
      @mementomori4972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      There are other professional tools out there, that will do the same thing,...his is just the most inexpensive quality tool.

    • @sourkeys8136
      @sourkeys8136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Yea he doesn't claim to have invented the pick, thats just the one they made and are selling he's using his channel as a plug for his business its a smart move

    • @Alex-ve1og
      @Alex-ve1og 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@sourkeys8136 They gave away the design, he's not making money off of it.

    • @sebastianriz4703
      @sebastianriz4703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Alex-ve1og Just because you give your designs away to the public, that doesnt mean you cant make money off your design. The grand majority of people dont have the tooling to make this tool so they will buy it. Where are they most likely to buy it? Well from whatever website you recomend and are affiliated with. Want proof? Check out Joreg Sprave's Adder and Ferris weapons.

    • @amagenarypowers9313
      @amagenarypowers9313 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mementomori4972 I went on sparrows and it's not on there help

  • @MandyFlame
    @MandyFlame 3 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    At this point I’m like one of Pavlov’s dogs and start salivating when the phrase “disc detainer” is uttered ... building up the tension waiting for “turn everything clockwise” and finally the payoff “TDDPTBBAIM”

    • @kaldogorath
      @kaldogorath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      TDDPTBBAIM how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like meee

    • @kinokos8980
      @kinokos8980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. Thats exactly it

    • @viquezug3936
      @viquezug3936 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wdym by TDDPTBBAIM

    • @MandyFlame
      @MandyFlame 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@viquezug3936 “the disk detainer pick that Bosnian Bill and I made” is a frequently appearing tool on this channel

    • @kaldogorath
      @kaldogorath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viquezug3936 The disc detainer pick that Bosnian Bill and I made

  • @asailijhijr
    @asailijhijr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +488

    Hello, this is The Lockpicking Lawyer and I'm in an unmarked room of an unmarked building...

    • @tcpratt1660
      @tcpratt1660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ...playing this tape recorder that will self-destruct in five seconds after it finishes playing...

    • @mikehawk3472
      @mikehawk3472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Im pretty sure both the room and the building were marked, or they would have been if the story were true. Like the building has an address, and they probably (didnt) meet in room 3b. That story is complete BS.

    • @RobloxLevelDude
      @RobloxLevelDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mikehawk3472 I'm assuming "unmarked room of an unmarked building" meant that the author of the article didn't specify what conference it was or where it was, not literally an unmarked room in an unmarked building

    • @HaloInverse
      @HaloInverse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "I didn't have keys for this building or this room, but the locks were very common."

  • @muhammadabdulrehman1540
    @muhammadabdulrehman1540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    LPL recognizing the efforts of writers and going easy on them.

    • @peglor
      @peglor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Just adding some common sense to the equation really. There is no better product for the money in the bike lock space that I'm aware of. There's stuff out there that's as good, but nothing better.

    • @FungusMossGnosis
      @FungusMossGnosis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peglor For ones you can buy in stores, Abus Granit X-Plus 540 is generally better rated. And there are several custom made bike locks in the $100-200 range that are better than that.

    • @FungusMossGnosis
      @FungusMossGnosis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Although I looked it up and LPL picked the ABUS with his special tool in about 58 seconds!

    • @KNHSynths
      @KNHSynths 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's the wise word of the lawyer, he doesn't want to have to deal with an NYT lawsuit . But we can feel what he thinks and what he won't say today...

    • @tylerjmast
      @tylerjmast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KNHSynths A lawsuit? For what? Criticizing? Contradicting? Newspapers aren't nearly as litigious as you seem to think.

  • @nickmuffin1722
    @nickmuffin1722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +504

    NY article: "Nobody can open this lock"
    LPL: and I took it personally!

    • @yumri4
      @yumri4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      well that article might have caused those locks to become even less secure due to the NY article saying they are unpickable.

    • @nickmuffin1722
      @nickmuffin1722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yumri4 yeah! Lol😂

    • @claritykey2960
      @claritykey2960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Came here for this comment alone. :)

    • @poyed88
      @poyed88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never believe anything the NYT says. They are fake news.

    • @nickmuffin1722
      @nickmuffin1722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@poyed88 I think it's a trend with every "XYZ times" news.

  • @thishandleistacken
    @thishandleistacken ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was just sold the orange lock and the guy told me it was "basically unbreakable and unpickable". Thank you for letting me know I need to be more safe about where (and how long) I leave my locked bike than I recently have been. At least I also use a secondary wheel lock.

  • @draftnotion
    @draftnotion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    I bought the one on the right, well aware of it's weakness to picking. However whenever locking a bike it's good practice to orientate the key hole downward (close to the ground) and in an awkward position such as next to the frame so that it is difficult to get hands or tools infront of the keyhole, and taking purchase on two parts of the frame so that the lock can't be rotated more horizontal.

    • @tpv59
      @tpv59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      SMART.

    • @aayotechnology
      @aayotechnology 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Is there a video somewhere of what you described?

    • @charlesrodriguez491
      @charlesrodriguez491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@aayotechnology probably varies by bike. When you lock your bike up, consider what you’re locking it to, and how you can make it inconvenient for a thief to steal. Anything that would make them spend more time, or cause them a hassle would make them inclined to find an easier target.

    • @rdkbialek
      @rdkbialek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charlesrodriguez491 if is close to the ground they can easily open by metal scissors ;). Doesn't matter how hard is you lock. They will step on the metal scissors and cut it ;)

    • @onthelake9554
      @onthelake9554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@rdkbialek Not that lock , it won't fit and it won't cut it .

  • @huldu
    @huldu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    When he picks the locks faster than I've seen some people open them with a regular key... that's just scary.

    • @bengerber4542
      @bengerber4542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Joke's on him, my old kryptonite is so beat up that it takes 30 tries to open it with the key. I can't imagine trying to pick that

    • @jimsmart2522
      @jimsmart2522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bengerber4542 I’m not sure your assumption that a pick would be slower is correct here

    • @BladeofThamuz
      @BladeofThamuz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bengerber4542 get some graphite for that lock. A little bit of grease could take you a long way.

    • @niklasholgerson3779
      @niklasholgerson3779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One time it took me so long to open my lock with the key that I walked away because people started to look warily. Luckily I managed to open it 15 minutes later :D

  • @PH1LZ
    @PH1LZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Kryptonite: *I fear no man*
    Kryptonite _looking at the tool that Bosnian Bill and LPL made_
    Kryptonite: *but that thing, it scares me*

    • @Oscar-vs5yw
      @Oscar-vs5yw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      :O one of these that are actually mentioning an object, *finally*

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kryptonite's kryptonite.

    • @IcecalGamer
      @IcecalGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's "The pick that BosnianBill and I made".

  • @s0nofp2l
    @s0nofp2l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I have these locks for my bike ( along with a Dutch wheel lock) it is actually quite reassuring that it would take someone with this level of skill this long to get them both off.

    • @oliveringram3056
      @oliveringram3056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And bike thieves will probably steal a bike that hasn't got one of these locks first.

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After my ebike was stolen, I wouldn't trust a Krptonite lock again, they can be cut very quickly with angle grinders.

    • @ccederlo
      @ccederlo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@manoz6194 What did you determine works better?

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ccederlo I got a Litelok X1. Hiplock also do one called the D1000 but the Litelok shackle has more room

  • @scavengeriel
    @scavengeriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Imagine going to the locksmith and trying to find the "pick that Bosnian Bill and I made"

    • @TheEudaemonicPlague
      @TheEudaemonicPlague 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Imagine going to a locksmith and asking for *any* lockpicking tool. It used to be that it was pretty difficult to buy lockpicks in the US. Now?...easy as pie.

    • @mydemon
      @mydemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imagine going to a store and asking for something that they're selling in the store.

    • @michaellinner7772
      @michaellinner7772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Most locksmith's shops don't carry these types of tools for retail customers.
      I'm certain they have tons of them for their own usage but, selling them to prospective customers would defeat the function that the locksmith's provides.
      You don't want people doing everything for themselves that you can do for them for a price.

    • @JohnHoranzy
      @JohnHoranzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Imagine going to Wal-Mart to buy a bicycle and you leave with a Lithium Ion 4 inch disk grinder instead.

    • @hasan_z
      @hasan_z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JohnHoranzy thats so funny and sad it makes me cry... as an ebike owner

  • @Master0fHyrule
    @Master0fHyrule 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1544

    I would like you see you pick a lock with a paper clip... I know for some locks it's very easy. I've done it myself after a bit of patience.

    • @Imurai
      @Imurai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      he has, search his videos!

    • @bertvdlast
      @bertvdlast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      @Apache Longbow. I guess a chickenbone that he and LPL designed.

    • @SydBat
      @SydBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@bertvdlast - underrated comment

    • @jpe1
      @jpe1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Did you see the one where he picked a lock using just a piece of condom wrapper? (It was the lock for a chastity cage, he was using something that might be handy in that situation)

    • @roninnder
      @roninnder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He definitely has done this. I’ve also seen him pick a lock with a lego man.

  • @meetim6271
    @meetim6271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    When will we get the unpickable lock made by Stuff Made Here?

    • @lockpickinglawyer
      @lockpickinglawyer  3 ปีที่แล้ว +306

      I haven’t received it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @dantepalazzo
      @dantepalazzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Damn! I’m waiting for that too!

    • @Mountain-Man-3000
      @Mountain-Man-3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes, I eagerly am anticipating that video.

    • @imbadatgames568
      @imbadatgames568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think he was going to make an improved version first but I could be wrong

    • @paulmccoy2908
      @paulmccoy2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Designing and building a novel unpickable lock is a huge mountain to climb. He’s up against the cumulative experience of 150 years of financially-motivated lock designers. I bet it’s turned him into a reclusive basement troll.

  • @codeblueisblue
    @codeblueisblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    "It's like taking your car to a mechanic who doesn't have the right wrench sizes, and concluding that your car can't be fixed."
    Lol

    • @unicornpower2411
      @unicornpower2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty much

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well, if most mechanics don't have it, that makes it pretty tricky to have your car fixed.

    • @frightenedsoul
      @frightenedsoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ivan_pozdeev_u tricky but not hard to find someone who does have the tool needed

    • @blackmber
      @blackmber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like this actually happens a lot, but more often with individual parts and not the entire car. It definitely happens with bike parts, electronics, and home appliances.

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean a pick that’s relatively cheap and available on Amazon isn’t exactly a collectors item, this shouldn’t be marketed as pickproof it it is

  • @roybatty-
    @roybatty- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Clearly your picking skills are in the top 1% tier. If bike thieves had your skills, they would not be bike thieves. The yellow lock saved my bicycle from theft vs an angle grinder.

    • @sideshow101101
      @sideshow101101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I have the yellow one too, and i agree someone with the skills to pick it this quickly woud be targeting much higher value things than bikes or motorbikes.

    • @squiglemcsquigle8414
      @squiglemcsquigle8414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You clearly dont watch his videos a lot do you? When he reviewed these individually he stated quite clearly they are very resitant to angle grinders

    • @DarkMatterX1
      @DarkMatterX1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@sideshow101101
      LPL is a seasoned lockpicker. He's picked thousands, if not tens of thousands of different types of lock cores. Even with that, it took him 40 seconds to open the orange one. Someone without his level of skill and prowess would take a great deal of time to open this lock, if they could even do it at all.

    • @IronKnee963
      @IronKnee963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You would be surprised at how talented criminals can be.

    • @ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137
      @ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Strongly agree, nice to hear this about the lock.

  • @eliuscha
    @eliuscha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In your videos you are giving very exact instructions to the thiefs, with all necessary details. So this is educational video for non-professional thiefs. You could deliver the information in different way without doing such a harm!

    • @afterthesmash
      @afterthesmash 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome to Security by Obscurity 101. Because knowledge on the Internet is easily suppressed.

  • @ConstantlyDamaged
    @ConstantlyDamaged 3 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Just adding some false gates would be a game-changer. Why don't they do that, since they're already stamping/pressing the discs already?

    • @aserta
      @aserta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That's not how you make money. You make money by selling locks, not heirloom fortresses.

    • @packetjanitor
      @packetjanitor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The lock pick way around this lock is fast. A small hydraulic cutter is faster. The only benefit to picking a bike lock is if you could rekey and sell it with the bike.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@packetjanitor What locks would withstand that cutter anyway?

    • @jon_j__
      @jon_j__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@packetjanitor If you can pick the lock relatively quickly, you're less likely to attract attention from passers-by - the lockpick is shielded from sight and you look like just another bike user struggling with a badly-lubricated or rusty lock.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@samarthprabhu5214 1) have to halt the production line 2) change the tooling 3) gain little or no additional sales for their trouble
      The general public (the vast majority of their sales) doesn't know, or care, about the difference.

  • @mattstanford9673
    @mattstanford9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    "Disc-detainer core."
    Oop. He's gonna say it. =D

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's so heart-warming.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "The first thing we're going to do is rotate all the discs as far _clockwise_ as they will go..."
      HE SAID IT! HE SAID IT!

    • @bernier42
      @bernier42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Thumbnail of two Kryptonite bike locks*
      He’s gonna say it.

  • @Sharingan112
    @Sharingan112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    LPL: "There are both reasonable locks, that I think represent a decent security value"
    Kryptonite CEO: Stonks!!

    • @gromaxe
      @gromaxe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      HODL

  • @flemmingpedersen567
    @flemmingpedersen567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I like this guy: In a roundabout way he tells other lockpickers, they should buy his lockpick, to be wellrounded, then he tells bicycle thieves that they need to buy his lockpick, which could lead to more work for him as a lawyer (if he does criminal law) and finally he implys that the lock producing company should hire him to consult on how to make better locks, and he is nice about it.

  • @cyborgzulu2011
    @cyborgzulu2011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know this was two years ago but i need a recommendation for a bike lock and this dude is the first place to go

  • @Tyiriel
    @Tyiriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    LPL: There's nothing inherently tricky about these locks..
    Kryptonite: WE MADE IT PAST 4 MINUTES BOYS!

    • @martinqizeaq
      @martinqizeaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Also Kryptonite: oh! 2 locks. Never mind then.

    • @sr972
      @sr972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      2 locks and a 1 min intro.

  • @terry2295
    @terry2295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    thanks to this channel I started lockpicking myself

    • @muffinlord99
      @muffinlord99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wait... what.

    • @Joe_Mama.also_YTHandlessuckass
      @Joe_Mama.also_YTHandlessuckass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @terry2295
      @terry2295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Braveskin not sure out of my head I just recently got a starterset with simple tools and a few looks for my birthday haven't really started yet either

  • @WardenWolf
    @WardenWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    One key thing to remember here is that, with normal locks, they can often be picked using rudimentary tools. Even a bent paperclip can often be used as a lockpick, and a small screwdriver as a tensioning wrench, or a simple rake / bump attack. Disc detainer cores have the advantage that they require a special pick to open; they CANNOT be picked with improvised tools.

    • @ionstorm66
      @ionstorm66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fyi you can totally pick a disk detainer locks with bent paperclips of the same quality of pin tumbler locks you can pick with the same. I have picked cheap disk locks by cutting a notch in the tip of a turning tool on disk one and using a bent paperclips flag to turn the disks.

  • @ilovephotography1254
    @ilovephotography1254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel that you were being polite and generous to the NYT journalist who wrote the article...
    ...I hope that the Times journalist gets a chance to watch your library of videos.

  • @thomasmoyses7288
    @thomasmoyses7288 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, what a great "how to" demonstrattion. I bought this tool too and tried several hours to to pick my own locks too (same products). Finaly your way, how you exactly grab and handle the lock and tool was the key !! Thanks a lot

  • @PierceThirlen2
    @PierceThirlen2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What they don't tell you is that the black keyhole cover will collect water and freeze up solid. To use this lock in the winter you need to remove the keyhole cover assembly and use a piece of inner tube over the keyhole. You also need to disassemble the lock, grease the latches with synthetic grease, thin out the synthetic grease with mineral spirts and then inject the mixture into the keyhole. The mineral spirits will evaporate and leave the synthetic grease inside the lock and help protect it from freezing up. (I say this from experience.) If you don't do this your lock will freeze up! Graphite does NOT work!!! FYI, I have the NEW YORK FAHGETTABOUDIT MINI. I had problems with the lock freezing up until I greased it as described.

    • @candidmoe8741
      @candidmoe8741 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or use your car ...

    • @rookjameson
      @rookjameson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@candidmoe8741 Brilliant idea! As a nice side-effect, global worming will then also solve the icing issue once and for all!

    • @IcecalGamer
      @IcecalGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍👍MORE Thumbs UP pls for this comment! A good man that took the time to write an actual good guide unlike NYT. (i dont have the lock and dont need something like it but can appreciate the comment nor the less)

    • @solitudessilentgroove
      @solitudessilentgroove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been able to unfreeze locks by putting my mouth over the keyhole and blowing into it.
      Not ideal but can work in a pinch.

    • @PierceThirlen2
      @PierceThirlen2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@solitudessilentgroove The keyhole cover freezing is only part of the issue. I'v had the latches freeze up, which takes considerably more heat to unfreeze. That is when I started using synthetic grease on the latches and haven't had a problem since.

  • @moh-ban8141
    @moh-ban8141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    He sounds like a dentist when they are checking your teeth.

    • @jrock2085
      @jrock2085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Especially at 2:29

    • @kaldogorath
      @kaldogorath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So many people say this. My dentists have never chatted with me. It's just like "Hi Nick, let me jam this needle in your gums and start cutting immediately with a dead serious face"

    • @steviesevieria1868
      @steviesevieria1868 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaldogorath lmao

    • @jonhy.2024
      @jonhy.2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Click out of first canine, click out of two… number three feels loose 😂😂😂😂

  • @VillPom
    @VillPom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You could honestly pick these in broad daylight, and if people asked, you could convince them that was the key that came with the lock and it’s just tough to use.

  • @BikeGuyFPV
    @BikeGuyFPV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Kryptonite higher ups are screaming after seeing this guy effortlessly pick their bike locks.

    • @kenziebalhatchet3918
      @kenziebalhatchet3918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah they’re not because I doubt they’re putting much effort into it

    • @Adamar454
      @Adamar454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he did the same thing a few years ago and nothing has changed, except with this tool picking them is even quicker lmao

    • @Thuja814
      @Thuja814 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am, too

  • @deningman
    @deningman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, this this site looks fantastic for training thieves up on different locks. 4 million plus subscribers!!

  • @digitaIgorilla
    @digitaIgorilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    All you need for this type of bicycle lock is a specialised pick tool. Here's one I designed earlier. (with Bosnian Bill)

  • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
    @MinistryOfMagic_DoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Even though LPL crushes these locks super quick, most people aren't walking around with the pick Bosnian Bill and LPL made and even of those who are few have the skill to use it. These locks are still solid excellent choices.

    • @jimfeldman4035
      @jimfeldman4035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The skill most people should worry about is cordless angle grinders

    • @cmmartti
      @cmmartti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jimfeldman4035 Yeah, absolutely no one is going to pick a bike lock when those exist for so cheap. In other words, the key hole is not the weakpoint of these locks.

    • @sadbread2446
      @sadbread2446 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cmmartti LPL has already covered in other videos that these locks specifically are also really resistant to angle-grinders, so if that's the concern then these are really solid picks.

    • @cmmartti
      @cmmartti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sadbread2446 They are also resistant to jack attacks because of their small size.

  • @flashish
    @flashish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    When you're 3 minutes into a 4.5 minute video and he hasn't started picking either lock yet.

  • @epidemicstudios
    @epidemicstudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for keeping tools used to steal bikes nice and cheap.

  • @izzyanderson
    @izzyanderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You're able to pick these locks quickly in a quiet relaxed environment. I'd be curious how quick you or bike thieves can pick these locks in an outdoor space with people around, city noise, and the threat of the bike owner returning at any moment.

    • @etoradamaley4713
      @etoradamaley4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You'd be surprised how little stress a bike thief is under. Watching videos of undercover bike theft videos, you get to see how brazen and nonchalant they are. Partly because no one besides the actual owner of the bike cares while they pull, cut, and jostle making all kinds of noise. Also, if/when the owner shows up, they just walk away. You can make a scene, call them out, but good luck detaining them. Cops treat bike theft like it's a low level crime and that plays into their mentality.

    • @deborahrooks4462
      @deborahrooks4462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@etoradamaley4713 i agree...u just need 3 methods to lock bike...u lock,cable lock n alarm thats the best way if your in a grocery store n will be there over 15 minutes

    • @adaboy4z
      @adaboy4z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All the bike theft videos I've watched nobody picked the lock. They used bolt cutters or a strong pull on flimsy 🔐. So these two locks would deter a thief.

  • @TheRetsehc
    @TheRetsehc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So the question is: Have you contact NYT with a link to this video and offered to be a consultant on any lock-related matters for them?

  • @joegrycowski211
    @joegrycowski211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Instead of reading books to my kids at bedtime, I am gonna start an LPL playlist going and let his pleasant voice sooth them to sleep.

    • @tcpratt1660
      @tcpratt1660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the idea...I will try that tonight for myself :)

    • @cameronjadewallace
      @cameronjadewallace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lord knows it's how I pass out

    • @KF1
      @KF1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your kids will be eating their breakfast cereal paying careful attention to each spoonful.
      kid muttering to self: "Nice crunch on one..."

    • @hasan_z
      @hasan_z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "daddy for my b'day can i get the lockpick that lpl and bosnianbill made?"

  • @ChimaeraTom
    @ChimaeraTom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i own a Kryptonite evo chain lock for my bike and based my purchase off of this channel. at some point did LPL recommended it because it seemed "good enough" compared to a lot of other brands.
    Strangely enough this video made me feel even better about it. you need a special tool to pick it, very rare among thieves and not common even among locksmiths :)

    • @LuckyTheCat777
      @LuckyTheCat777 ปีที่แล้ว

      unless the thieves find this video lol

  • @neolexiousneolexian6079
    @neolexiousneolexian6079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I own one of these locks. That article was written before any picks for them were available. I watched with growing concern as LPL brought his disk detainer pick to market.

  • @larsmarienlund690
    @larsmarienlund690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for making this video. I just bought one of those locks for over $100 so I’m a little upset but I’m glad you gave me the knowledge.

  • @hunszaszist
    @hunszaszist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "These are the cheapest quality disk detainer pick-"
    Wait, that's not the pick you and BosnianBill-
    "-it's the one that BosnianBill and I designed-"
    \*throws money at the screen*

  • @bozobergfun4340
    @bozobergfun4340 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how he makes tools and gives tips for locksmiths and regular citizens, but at the same time he is giving criminals the exact right tools and the best tips and skills to pick locks.

  • @feedmyintellect
    @feedmyintellect 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    LPL is single handedly pushing the lock industry to do better and that is freaking awesome!!!

    • @Elmojomo
      @Elmojomo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Except...are they really? How much actual change are we seeing across the lock landscape, and how much of this info is just being used by criminals to make their jobs that much easier? LPL comments often about how lock design generally has stagnated for the past 100+ years.

    • @Djorgal
      @Djorgal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's also giving easy how tos for would be thieves. That's doing both.
      To Elmo, lock designs doesn't really need to change. There are very good known designs, but there are also lots of mistakes that manufacturers can make. Educating manufacturer in good lock designs would make locks much more secure, even without reinventing the wheel.

    • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
      @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He's selling lock picking tools. It's like a arms dealer arming criminals. Yet you're fanboying for him. How can people be so pifitul?
      Why are you purposely ignoring that and trying to make him look like a good guy?
      Teaching how to pick locks isn't freaking awesome. It's a scummy thing to do, and you're one too for idolizing him

    • @feedmyintellect
      @feedmyintellect 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess You would be right, except it 8s people like him who push the lock industry to make better locks.
      No lock will not do good things for any good people if criminals can pick or bypass it with much ease.
      The end result of his work is that we will have better locks and we will be safer.
      And I suggest you buy his lock picking tools.
      If you could pick any of your locks with simple raking or with a bump key,you need better locks.
      You are living under an illusion of safety.

    • @piworower
      @piworower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this isnt fixing a flaw this is making an attack available.

  • @jmorrison973
    @jmorrison973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love and hate these videos. I bought an ebike and immediately started looking for recommendations for a good lock on TH-cam. I came across the LPL and it seems like there is not any good locks, I don’t think he has ever not been able to pick a lock. So 2 years later I still have not bought a lock, and when I ride I never leave the bike anywhere. Thanks LPL!

  • @Douglas-qs5br
    @Douglas-qs5br 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks because i have lost 9 bikes in a year to thieving bike thieves...i appreciate you sharing this information and experiences...it sure has helped me in a positive way...thanks again...

  • @brootalbap
    @brootalbap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What I appreciate about your videos is how clearly they demonstrate just how there is absolutely no progress and innovation in that whole lock-making industry. That whole industry is ripe for one start-up with a good, new, innovative locking mechanism and masterlock and all these lazy companies will just go down the drain.

    • @jeanf6295
      @jeanf6295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That or lock security is not the stuff that those companies try to optimize. Cheap and barely good enough is what they are going for.
      I doubt a startup could go against the economies of scale, dubiously cheap oversea labor, and wide distribution network on which big companies rest. Instead they would most likely be bought as some kind of externalized private R&D, or would stay in a niche market for rich people.

    • @jeffbrownme2
      @jeffbrownme2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the issue is thieves rarely go around picking these locks. It requires knowledge, skill, and specialized tools. It's much easier just to angle grind it down in a minute and that's what most thieves do. I think lock companies know this so don't spend a whole heap of time developing super fancy unpickable locks.

  • @saiyajedi
    @saiyajedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have the Kryptonite Evolution along with a chain lock (the Hiplok Gold, which is hefty although I’m not sold on the core itself - would love to see a review!). As part of an overall security strategy it’s not a bad choice, though anything is more vulnerable on its own. Remember, it’s about outrunning the other campers, not the bear.

  • @JBthePAdashC
    @JBthePAdashC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    There are lots of videos with LPL defeating these locks, but are there any about recommendations for locks that are realistically difficult and likely to keep our stuff safe? Specifically bike locks. Can you please make a recommendation as to what will work to keep bikes safe?

    • @MiguelY22
      @MiguelY22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, about the locks in this video, how many thieves are going to have the special tool to pick the lock open? I think someone will break your bike before they can open the lock

    • @xXI3igfootXx
      @xXI3igfootXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In video 868 he says he uses the kryptonite evolution series 4 himself as it is "good enough"

    • @ChesterChi3
      @ChesterChi3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you leave a bike unattended in a place where it can be seen, you've already lost. Either the lock will be cut off/picked, or the frame will be stripped of all parts.

    • @JBthePAdashC
      @JBthePAdashC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xXI3igfootXx thanks. I’ll have to check that one out.

  • @kdawg3484
    @kdawg3484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is under the "Why you should trust us" section of that article:
    "In addition, we made arrangements to get in touch with a lock-picking group, and we visited on a night with a presentation on high-security disc-detainer locks. The meeting was in an unmarked room in an unmarked building, and everyone who gave a presentation used their Def Con code names."
    Nothing more trustworthy than unnamed sources in unnamed locations. A clandestine visit to a secret lockpicking group while apparently not taking a couple seconds to go look up disc detainer locks on TH-cam.

  • @sethadling3043
    @sethadling3043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You: my phone broke
    Your friend: it looks perfectly fine to me
    You: well I don’t have the right charger

    • @aureliandumanovschi4023
      @aureliandumanovschi4023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is what most manufacturers do, right? A capacitor broke, manufacturer says it's unrepairable, you have to order a replacement mainboard with cpu, gpu, ram, and flash on it, basically 60% of a computer. While at Louis Rossman it costs 20$ to replace the capacitor.

    • @Reelix
      @Reelix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      iPhone: You'll have to buy a new $50 charger
      Android: Don't worry - I have 20 other devices lying around the place that use the exact same charger standard so I'm sure I have one lying around

  • @sazkatest364
    @sazkatest364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    1:42 is the part we all love

  • @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
    @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I always admire how these videos seem to be done in one take. If that's true, that's quite a feat as they are so smooth and detailed. If it's not true, can we please get a blooper reel this coming April first?

  • @realbarries
    @realbarries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Group of ‘professional’ lock-pickers: “Yeah, this can’t be picked.”
    LPL: “Hold my scotch.”

    • @peterkelley6344
      @peterkelley6344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It ought to be more like: Excuse me. I was not invited ... .

  • @-MacCat-
    @-MacCat- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disc Pick, aka Sparrows Disc Detainer Lock Pick Set by Bosnian Bill & LPL and who knows how many other names it goes by is ~$55 - $125, according to a quick search I just did, when they're available.
    These two guys are the bane of anyone that dares think or say or market that their lock(s) are unpickable, and we enjoy them showing us their skills.

  • @TheMiniatureRobot
    @TheMiniatureRobot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's simple, just insert the photon displacement apprentice inside the vibranium coupling module and adjust the quantum neutrino parameters until a critical antimatter flux ratio is achieved. And that's how you pick the kryptonite lock!

  • @SevenToes2007
    @SevenToes2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The "New-York-forget-about-it"-lock. Hilarious!

  • @Kleiner_Lutz
    @Kleiner_Lutz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Whenever you do these videos I can't help myself but see a thief picking the lock, mumbling "click out of 3, 4 feels loose..." 😂

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      **looks into his phone** "...Okay, what does he do next?.."

  • @fall22123
    @fall22123 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember years ago disc detainer locks were "unpickable". So you and BB design a tool to pick them. Now they're easily picked. That being said, do you feel you're having a positive impact on the world? Just asking.

    • @cron410
      @cron410 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were never "unpickable" unless you're buying the propaganda along with the lock. The tools have been around for a while. They just designed a nicer one.

  • @adde9506
    @adde9506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can we get a video of locks you would use, what you would use them for, and their approximate cost?

    • @ollioittila1297
      @ollioittila1297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is one, titled why I use this bicycle lock or something like that.

  • @purpleether5405
    @purpleether5405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    How many bike thieves pick locks? These are opportunist drug addicts most of the time. They look for the cheapest lock and cut it. When they see that yellow tank of a lock they don't start picking it, they move on to something else.

    • @natemueller3051
      @natemueller3051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's still not pick proof. That's misleading. It's just not gonna be picked by a guy who's using a bobby pin and a paper clip

    • @TheEudaemonicPlague
      @TheEudaemonicPlague 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I guess you're unfamiliar with the organized bike thieves. When I was young, there was a ring of bike thieves making life hell for us cyclists around here. It took years for the authorities to shut them down. It was probably them who stole one of mine bikes...but then, I didn't have the good sense to lock it to something immovable, so anyone with a vehicle large enough to toss a bike into could've done it.

    • @Dies1r4e
      @Dies1r4e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheEudaemonicPlague lord you cops sucked, wrench, GPS tracker, slide it down the tube of a bike and wait, cost me 185 bucks (counting a cheap bike lock) and about five hours of my life, dropped a tip off got my buddies bike back laughed as the police came and shut them down.

    • @c0llision771
      @c0llision771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dies1r4e where did you get a battery powered gps tracker that would fit in the tube? I've been searching for a while, all I found were kickstarters that never shipped or chinese ones that dont work.

    • @Dies1r4e
      @Dies1r4e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@c0llision771 look up ones that are suppose to mount to dog collars, its what I used. I had some other friends want to chip their bikes too, one of them had a weird carbon fiber affair that had a diamond shape so the round fob didn't fit down it, so I took the casing apart, found a bit of PVC that would fit the guts and the frame then put it back together inside and slid the whole thing in. you can also mount them inside the under side of the seats on most bikes.

  • @ivanhunter6492
    @ivanhunter6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    NYT: "these are the best"
    LPL: "are you sure about that?"

    • @AndrewWellsPlus
      @AndrewWellsPlus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's actually phrased as, "Best for most people" and for whatever is being reviewed it's based on quality, functionality and price. Even LPL says they're good value.

  • @TDHurley
    @TDHurley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    "Meeting of experts" lmao. Never change NYT.

  • @CrimsonScrewdriver
    @CrimsonScrewdriver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how he starts off easy by saying "Yeah these guys know nothing, but that's not their fault"

  • @GM-yq9du
    @GM-yq9du 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great, so I’m lugging around a 2kg bike lock whilst touring (when I meticulously chose every other piece of kit based on weight), to discover although it may take a minute to remove with an angle grinder, it takes even less time to learn the tricks of your trade if you are a bike thief and just pick the lock. I suspect the £2k insurance Kryptonite offer is also void if picked (not that I expect they would pay out anyway no matter how much you do to protect yourself). Thanks for sharing. Although it provides thieves with a ‘how to’ guide, I guess they’d figure it out anyway and you’re helping to keep the bike lock industry innovative and on it’s feet.

    • @fordguy8792
      @fordguy8792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How does it feel to be caught in the crossfire of keeping an industry "on its toes" and crooks stealing your expensive investment because info that didn't really need to be made widely available was made widely available so some guy could make money on TH-cam?

    • @GM-yq9du
      @GM-yq9du 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fordguy8792 to be honest, I can only stay frustrated with “thieves” as it’s enviable knowledge will get out there, but you can only ‘hope’ the World becomes a nicer place, where all human beings respect one another... what are the chances.. Guess I’m a realist although I try my hardest to be a positron not a negatron 😊
      On a similar subject... I have often wondered why certain shows explain in ‘great detail’ how killers are caught e.g. how GPS tracking is used and luminol to expose blood under UV light etc. I don’t see any benefit in the average Joe knowing how all that technology works.

  • @jceepf
    @jceepf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a scientist. In my field there are certain mathematical tools which are unfortunately unknown. So when I reviewed a paper using them, even in a way I disapproved, I let it go through.
    The LPL attitude towards that article reminded me of mine and I think he is correct to encourage discussion about security even if they are shallow by his standards.

  • @sealthrux
    @sealthrux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can you start a series where you show us the best type of locks for every use ? It would be interesting

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/L6iMmCSayBQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @hfcuvfioisnhbwj2ght
    @hfcuvfioisnhbwj2ght 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could you pick it with pin tumbler or dimple or stiff wire picks? Or is that a non starter even for an expert picker?

  • @3FIGNEWTONEATR
    @3FIGNEWTONEATR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The relationship with Kryptonite and LPL seems Love/Hate. He commends them on the quality of their locks then turns around and develops and produces a tool that makes quick work of their locks. Like "you can be the best but not for long".

    • @nunyabusiness164
      @nunyabusiness164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm just trying to lock up my bike.... can this guy STOP his EVIL DEEDS????

  • @Mechaneer
    @Mechaneer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been using the Kryptonite Revolution for about a year now. I like that it comes with a medium thickness wire that I to lock up the back tire as well. What I don't like is that despite using the key cap to keep dust and debris out of where the key goes in, every week or two of regular use some parts inside seize up and make it impossible to open with the key for a long time. Takes 15 minutes on average of toying with the thing to free whatever is jammed up and then it opens quickly and easily with the key as it should for awhile. I kind of want to buy these picking tools, both to practice developing picking skills, and also to see if it's easier to pick than to use the key when this internal seizing happens.

    • @bhough410
      @bhough410 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you spray any lube in there?

  • @NiNjaTurtLe697
    @NiNjaTurtLe697 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for evaluating the article! I read them all the time!

  • @grndzro777
    @grndzro777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Considering how long it took LPL to defeat these with a custom tool I would be fairly confident in picking either one of these.

    • @KF1
      @KF1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I chose to read that twice. Something seemed off but I couldn't pick what.

    • @momoware
      @momoware 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KF1 Same the first time it reads like he is a better picker than LPL.

    • @KF1
      @KF1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@momoware Yeah, which is unlikely, but not impossible.
      I've been practicing here, I can do Masterlocks easy, but not American Locks like the series 50. Much respect for LPL's abilities, takes a lot of feel.

  • @incidentshappen
    @incidentshappen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought a bike from a co-worker that had a kryptonite evolution locked around the top tube with no key. A $15 harbor freight grinder made quick work. Fun fact, you can return a cut-open lock to kryptonite for a replacement at half cost!

  • @peteg8888
    @peteg8888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    *Group of lock-picking experts - "This lock is unpickable". *Lock-picking lawyer - "Hold my beer"

  • @dfglandon
    @dfglandon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have to say I’m mixed on this video. On the one hand, it’s definitely informative on the venerable of these types of lock that are touted to be invincible. On the other hand, you just gave a how to on picking them. I guess the lesson here is lock your bike up the best you can knowing there is a small chance it will get ripped off. And check with your insurance representative to see if your bike is covered or not. If not get coverage, it’s cheap.

    • @goku445
      @goku445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Security through obscurity is never a good thing.

  • @capisenior
    @capisenior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Biggest nightmare: wake up during the night to some noise in my front door 'click out of two... click out of four...'