It's September 2021, and I have watched dozens of LPL videos. Seeing this older one, it is interesting to see how LPL's videos and patter have evolved in the last 4 years. All minor things. The camera work improves, and he doesn't complain about how hard it is to show things anymore (usually). But the improvement in smoothness and confidence, and dare I say, swagger, is remarkable.
I really appreciate you going over these Kryptonite locks.
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I don't own a bike, I'm a Volvo mechanic. Lock Picking Lawyer's videos are so fascinating, enjoyable and satisfying. I love finding the solution. Thank you Lock Picking Lawyer.
@@nicholasolson2510 You've never heard that joke? "Two guys are camping in the woods. They get up one morning to find that there's a bear a few feet from the tent. One of the guys starts lacing up his running shoes. The other one turns to him and asks 'What are you, crazy? You can't outrun a bear!' to which the guy replies 'I don't need to outrun the bear, I just need to outrun you.'" The analogy here is "I don't need an undefeatable lock, I just need a better lock than the bike next to mine"
If i manufactured locks i would religiously watch LPL and make revisions based on how he opens my lock every time. Seems like a good way to get to a really good level of security.
Virtually all customers want a cheap lock that’s hard to break/cut, hence why MasterLock is so successful. People who need to protect against lock picking thieves are a tiny market that can barely support vendors.
Omg! I can't believe how quick and easy you picked it! I'm no thief and only watching this as my bike was stolen on Monday and I have no insurance and have to pay £400 for a new one 😔 but this time I'm definitely getting a better lock. Thank you for the video, very informative
I disassembled the core on a bunch of these. The "deadbolt" is pressed on. You can easily get the deadbolt off with two small screwdrivers, one on each side and pull it up and off. That leaves the snap ring accessible. The discs are all numbered so you can decode or recode these. Pretty neat. I have a bunch if you have a desire to make a follow up vid.
If it is a viable attack vector to use a grinder for 5 minutes, then picking on the street is most certainly on the table as an attack vector. I think you would agree, the notion that picking these types of locks is not a common skill, is a bit of security through obscurity. Love the videos. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights!
Which gives people who view these videos a little ease of mind, if most thieves rely on brute force and locks like this require either power tools or a developed skill to open, then their things are safer than those secured with easily breakable locks. I'd need an angle grinder and more than one disc to get through this lock, because i know there's no commercial bolt cutter that can make this easy. Unless of course, there is, and i just don't know about it
@@kirkendauhl6990 it's true there's no manual/manual hydraulic bolt cutter available that is going to even touch 18mm hardened steel twice amounts to 36mm ! more than an entire 1 inch in diameter to get through. it can be cut with battery angle grinder but interestingly the best one available by Milwaukee will almost exhaust a fully charged lithium ion battery to low battery and same story with the disc.. any cheaper battery grinder just wont make it, a thief is unlikely to carry the best grinder and second battery due to expense/space. at that point it's safe to assume it's almost angle grinder proof, thief is not going to carry a big generator and corded grinder as it would slow them down however the "jaws of life" used by fire fighters to cut wrecked cars in crashes will do it but that's a huge tool and very expensive 18mm hardened steel though is approaching the upper limits of portable attack methods used by thieves. I think perhaps 25mm maybe even 30mm hardened steel shackle would see them off completely. if i knew how to make padlocks and u locks id make them that size myself for my own use and selling
I was also wondering if they had false gates or not. Such a shame they don't. It's one of the key things I've learnt from this channel that can make picking harder. I guess Kryptonite is more focused on deterring brute force thieves than lock pickers.
Imma call this dude to break my locks when I need to get into my house lol 😂 This guy was an interesting voice. He makes this type of information so fascinating.
I love this channel, he acts like there is a threat of locks in high security getting picked daily, and then picks them in mere minutes, ending with a joke. Incredible, I subbed.
Here in Brazil the most common attack is picking because it can be done discretely. Using cutters and saws can get the thief killed on spot. But thing is thieves are really quick at picking most locks.
I appreciate such detail in a video. Also appreciated is the education offered to your common thief, allowing a just so-so thief to truly elevate his/hers skills to the next level. And, of course, doing your part to push the economy forward with a multitude of bicycle, and bicycle lock sales! Thank you! As a locksmith (or whatever) you were invisible - a nobody. But now? These how-to videos have placed upon you the status of a shining beacon to the Urban Underworld! Bravo!
This is so delicate, I get the impression that even if you had memorise this technique then it would still take years of picking experience and/or both a very fine dexterous sense of what the tools were doing.
And tbh, as a food delivery driver who uses an extensive ebike, kryptonite locks are fantastic , I literally only need my lock to last about 60 seconds minimum, I use a krypto lock + a mid range alarm system, I have not lost my bike yet in 12 months (touch wood), I think it would have had a few attempts tho if I did not have q very loud alarm system that let's every1 within 100m know that I've just alarmed my bike !!
Very impressive and amazing skill indeed. I wonder how hard it would be for a would be thief to train himself to pick any locks by watching these videos...
Every lock system is defeatable, if not by picking then by force. If the thief needs to invest in getting skills, they are probably going to just save time and go for bikes that can be had with some cheap bolt cutters.
This guy is a wizard lol, all thiefs are not as talented. Still the best bike lock on the market actually. i got one (new-u mini) and I am pretty satisfied, it's my main lock and I completed it with the evolution (standard size). Now, I just need to find a way to secure my accessories to avoid opportunists and double lock my wheels.
@Srbistanik 01 That's nothing. I'm descended from one of these picks... er... pricks, and I picked the wrong father. Who would you mistrust more as an adversary, I ask you. A thief or a lawyer? Think about that. Uh-huh...
You better hope the chance of the toxic gas mechanism accidentally releasing on you or your family is lower than the chance of a thief taking your bike.
Ohh damn it I just bought one of these for my motorbike. OK it was a bit fiddly to pick, but then you can pick any lock! These lock companies must hate you! Glad you recommend it though its a tough lock, heavy and sturdy!
I was looking at this in a bike shop and I saw the price then looked at it and thought has the lock picking lawer done a video on it because it was a ten I wondered if it meant the actual core security or the body of it but this has just answered all my questions thanks!
Nice theorization and knowledge sharing! Half of the things he shows are actually useless in real life. Thieves usually got little time and not a bag tools with them! In the end, it would be nice to have a hit list of the best locks per utilization (best locks for bikes, for homes, etc...).
The lock survived 4 mins against this guy with what isn't the most common equipment. The sturdy frame and being a disk detainer in the first place is safety enough in most cases.
Several specialised tools Several attempts by a specialist to pick it Brute force is not an option = impressive lock, I would look out for if I had a bike 😉
Yes. And he's in the comfort of his own home, no distractions, sat in a comfy chair, in the perfect position on his work table. I'd like to see how quickly he gets in on the city streets, with the prospect of being caught, arrested or beaten at any moment, the noise of the city obscuring the sounds of the pins, maybe bad weather, with the lock probably down low to the ground without easy access to the keyway. I would bet it would take twice as long for him to get in, or maybe even longer.
If brute force doesn't work, you aren't using enough of it. You can cut it with the angle grinder anytime. It just takes a few minutes. I have seen videos of thieves cutting the thickest locks with power tools with very little regard to the surroundings.
thanks for the video and one take away lesson for me. clamp the lock on in such away that it is on an awkward angle to insert pick tools if possible (i am thinking a motorcycle). i didn't read all 1000 comments so i apologize if this has been mentioned before.
I didn't even know he was picking locks, I was just listening to him in the background while working. Prolly watched like 5 videos before realizing that I'm watching "how to pick a lock 101" channel
This seems like an amazing lock. You’d need to modify your already custom tools. And most bike thieves will just cut the bar, which they can’t here. I had to steal my own scooter once when I lost the key. We probably looked really suspicious driving up with wire cutters and grabbing the scooter.
Great job picking as usual brother, too bad they didn't put false gates in,really is a shame. Guess they're just hoping that most pickers dont know how to pick disc detainers but frankly the knowledge is out there so they should know better. Thanks for the review!
@@aahillakhani399 Yet now that TPTBBAIM exists, LPL doesn't think this lock does enough any more.. th-cam.com/video/jZtNEC1uGg4/w-d-xo.html Essentially he's pushed the proverbial envelope so far that it has been ripped to shreds. What will the next iteration of genuinely high security bike locks look like? They've got to be able to keep out unskilled to intermediate lockpickers, not have any exploitable bypasses, strong enough to hold up against brute force attacks, light enough to make them practical to bring with you everywhere, cheap enough to be affordable to the average consumer (ideally under $200), and able to be mass-produced. The gauntlet has been thrown down to lock manufacturers though. Whoever can build a lock that checks all those boxes is going to sell tons of them... Well at least until LPL makes another tool to defeat them with a little bit of practice as well.
Dear LockPickingLawyer, you really should consider making educational videos for the ESL classroom! Your pronunciation is so nuanced and your voice is calming. :) If all locks of this world are picked, it's time to start another career. :)
At the hacker conference called DEFCON, there's a whole area dedicated to lockpicking. It's really cool. I can't wait for my picks to arrive and to start picking! Very excited about it! If I get half as good as you, I'll go to DEFCON!
This video was very helpful. Since I'm in college I left my bike overnight near my dorm and when I went home for Thanksgiving it was gone. $635 bike stolen and never seen it again. Fortunately I got a $1000 2018 Jamis Durango Expert Hardtail bike for half the price and invested THE BEST kryptonite bike lock with extra cables for extra security. The main reason why I gotten this bike is because its better than my Giant Talon 2014 bike and I want to get back into mountain biking since I'm riding a lot more. Again very helpful video. Word of advice: Don't get a really expensive bike unless you get a huge discounted price. Also college is the place where many many people are desperately needing a bike. Typically the University of Arkansas. EDIT: Part of the reason why I gotten a huge discounted price is because my dad is in second place in the national mountain bike association. (Don't know whats it called)
I remember back in the day when I was a juvenile delinquent we could break those older Kryptonite locks open in less then 20 seconds. The older Kryptonite U locks had a design flaw where the bottom locking lug on the lock and key side was a lot longer and stuck out more to where you could take a 2 inch steal pipe and slide it over it and use leverage standing on it and it would pop right off. This was back in the early 90’s when a lot of people thought those locks were indestructible. Sadly they weren’t lol
I own this lock - seems good enough of a deterrent for the bike rooms at my office and condo building. My gripe is the horrible rattle this lock makes in its holster on my bike frame. For this $$$ Kryptonite should figure this out.
Thank you for interesting video. I'd say anyone with similar to yours peculiar set of skills can do better then stealing bikes even if he decided to live a life of criminal.:) I lock my $200-300 cheaper bike with Abus granite and more expensive $1500 bike with both Abus that I carry on my frame and Fahgettaboudit that I keep at my workplace. Kryptonite lock considering weight and luck of options to secure it to bike frame is a huge pain to carry around. I never leave my bikes overnight outside and lock it on busy streets in front of some business or a bank with cameras upfront. I feel ok. Not like totally sure no one ever steal my bike, but more like it is easier to steal someone else's bike than mine.
It was a good lock 6 years ago, nowadays that hardened steel shackle could be easily cut with an angle grinder in seconds. I was impressed with this lock when I bought it two years ago, now I'm throwing my angle grinder compromised Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit and my Abus Granit X-Plus 540 u-locks in the trash along with the keys.
@@diegoyuiop If it's anything like the legendary D1000 (and it pretty much will be with a slightly longer shackle), the DX1000, along with the Litelok X3 will be amongst the toughest u-locks on the planet! Mind-blowing angle grinder resistance, you'll need 5 - 6 cutting wheels, a lot of time and skill to be able to cut it completely open!
Yeah I saw a video about the D1000 and truly exceeded any expectations. Frankly it's expensive but I think it's a good investment, especially for expensive ebikes or scooters as it's still cheaper than 5k!@@moochincrawdad
@@diegoyuiop I had all I can take from these scrotes, my Specialized Sirrus stolen from the middle of town 7 years ago and my Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0 SL, almost nicked from outside a university building just a few weeks ago. The only thing stopping them was they accidentally slashed the front tyre trying to make a second cut to the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit with their angle grinder. I bought a couple of Litelok X1 u-locks and I'm now waiting for a GPS bike tracker to be delivered.
@@davidelias6275 Never use cooking oil to lubricate a lock! It will soon oxidise and gum up your lock completely. Use a proper teflon-based lubricant instead.
Don't force it just rotate the key back and forth slightly while inserting it and occasionally drop in some oil. Mine is out in the elements all the time and never jams, but I get why you'd think that, it sometimes takes a little finesse.
There is ONE way to make a lock almost immune to a grinder, but it is expensive. When the steel is molten, before casting, mix in powdered silicon carbide. While not as hard as a diamond (mohs 10) it is close enough (9.25) to wear out even a diamond tool in a minute or two. Even tungsten carbide (9) is sufficiently soft to be destroyed by dispersed silicon carbide.
Now this is coming from a backyard blacksmith, but would that interfere with the grain structure? Or would that particle size be small enough that it would create weak points where it is likely to shear? I could definitely see tungsten carbide coated rods, but to actually have it mixed in with the steel? I don't know how that would affect the structural integrity of the steel. But I know from experience even if a small portion of a blade doesn't harden and temper properly and martinzite doesn't form evenly you could have a snapped blade with a small flick in the right spot. Could be WAAAAY off, but I like hypotheticals, especially with someone who claims to have a PhD.
I had an older, much older model of Kryptonite lock on a bike...and due to arrogance and stupidity the bike was still stolen. I was in the Navy, stationed in Bermuda, and a few people were very stubbornly " proprietary " about who should use which section of the bike storage lean-to outside the barracks. I thought that I would push home the point that with very ample space to spare, that having " designated " bike parking was foolish. One night I parked the bike but instead of securing the U section of the lock to the building, (as I had done for weeks) I just locked the rear wheel and frame within the U. Yeah, someone lifted the bike, but I doubt it was ever ridden again. Kryptonite is probably one of the best bike lock brands out there, when used correctly.
Appreciate the insight into this lock - I rely on it to protect my bikes. Do you think Kryptonite could be persuaded to upgrade it with the anti-pick measures you've suggested? Since the lock core is so easy to remove, they could (in theory) provide new ones to existing users.
I've always wondered, has anyone ever hired you to help design a lock? It's like these clowns enjoy getting embarrassed when you obliterate their locks.
As an avid cyclist, the ironic thing about most commercial bicycle locks is they're impractical for us to use. In fairness, it's not the lock manufacturers at fault so much as it is high-end bicycles weren't built with anti-theft in mind. Just about anyone could strip a couple thousand $ in components from a locked high-end bicycle faster than it takes a skilled picker to pick this lock. That said, they still have their place among bike commuters and messengers who have no choice.
+thechosendude I know what you mean. I invested in some special scrutiny head screws for my road bike... For those short trips into convenience stores while on really long rides.
Use locking skewers (Pitlock, Pinhead, etc) for wheels, seatpost, and fork. Super-glue a ball bearing into allen bolts and use acetone later to dissolve the glue when you want to remove it. A bike that has $2000 worth of components on it shouldn't be left in the street anyway.
I have to live on a different place than LockPickingLawyer - and then i am save ❤ - really great job and i admire your skills - thank you for all the videos
your shit aint safe a portable grinder, sawzall, bandsaw will get through that in under 1 minute. fuck it'll go through that in under thirty seconds. a sawzall wont have sparks, a bandsaw you'll hardly hear and it wont spark
@@snoopyshultz you take a band saw onto the street to cut a lock off a bike? You think you really can get through a guarded steel 18mm shackle in 30 seconds? I am not an expert, but with the specs of this lock based on all the destructive tests I have seen, no way.
PN H it's 2018 portable bandsaw exist and the smallest ones are rated for 1 5/8 " cuts a 18 mm pipe ain't going to do shit . ask any iron worker, plumber, fitter, metal workers how quick it'll cut through 18 mm lol
How many garden variety tweeker bike thieves would be capable of this performance? I would guess virtually close to zero. Those idiots would seek out easier pickings.
Thank you for showing every 12 year old and his dog how to steal my bicycle. I am disabled and rely on my bike to go pretty much anywhere because although I can ride I can barely walk. Thank you again for your great service to honest people.
I think New York bike thieves usually just take angle grinders to the shackle. Edit: and you just said that in the video right after I wrote this. Haha
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It's September 2021, and I have watched dozens of LPL videos. Seeing this older one, it is interesting to see how LPL's videos and patter have evolved in the last 4 years. All minor things. The camera work improves, and he doesn't complain about how hard it is to show things anymore (usually). But the improvement in smoothness and confidence, and dare I say, swagger, is remarkable.
I got so excited when he said disk detainer core but then I realized the pick that bosnian bill and I made wasn't around yet I guess
i noticed he doesnt have the band-aid anymore either. looks like it healed up nicely
the exaggerated swagger of a former D.C. lawyer turned security expert
One is loose. So is two... So is three... You sound like my dentist.
Dude, brush! ;-)
little click out of four..
five is binding...
You might have a false set...
I was thinking the same thing! He sounds like a dentist! haha
I really appreciate you going over these Kryptonite locks.
I don't own a bike, I'm a Volvo mechanic. Lock Picking Lawyer's videos are so fascinating, enjoyable and satisfying. I love finding the solution.
Thank you Lock Picking Lawyer.
I really like hearing him talking about a lock that he admires and respects. It is so rare!
This lock is a perfect example of "I don't need to outrun the bear, I just need to outrun you."
How
@@nicholasolson2510 You've never heard that joke?
"Two guys are camping in the woods. They get up one morning to find that there's a bear a few feet from the tent. One of the guys starts lacing up his running shoes. The other one turns to him and asks 'What are you, crazy? You can't outrun a bear!' to which the guy replies 'I don't need to outrun the bear, I just need to outrun you.'"
The analogy here is "I don't need an undefeatable lock, I just need a better lock than the bike next to mine"
@@TheMinecraftACMan I have heard that joke. I just didn't understand the application. But I do now, and I agree with you.
@Christopher Stephens AntiFa IRL
@@TheMinecraftACMan that's actually a really good point. Most bikes are locked on racks full of bikes. Why wouldn't thief go for easiest nice bike
Any time the LPL says "I'm not going to take this apart because I'm not sure I'll be able to put it back together" is a win for the lock manufacturer.
roses are red
violets are blue
one is loose
and so is two
Three is binding
Four is set
But I haven't
Tried five yet
@@TheMuro22
6 is tough
7 was great
I didnt expect to get to 8
TyrannoKoenigsegg Ninth was an interesting one
Ten is done
Roses are red
Violets are blue
One is loose, now binding
In any case that's all I have for you
Rose's are red
My name is dave
This makes no sense
Microwave
If i manufactured locks i would religiously watch LPL and make revisions based on how he opens my lock every time. Seems like a good way to get to a really good level of security.
Virtually all customers want a cheap lock that’s hard to break/cut, hence why MasterLock is so successful.
People who need to protect against lock picking thieves are a tiny market that can barely support vendors.
Omg! I can't believe how quick and easy you picked it! I'm no thief and only watching this as my bike was stolen on Monday and I have no insurance and have to pay £400 for a new one 😔 but this time I'm definitely getting a better lock. Thank you for the video, very informative
It's not just about the lock but how you lock it and where. Personally i wouldn't leave a bike on the street for more than 20 mins.
I was only gone for 30 min, just went to get my new phone a case 😔
@@jamlarna sorry bro ☹
I disassembled the core on a bunch of these. The "deadbolt" is pressed on. You can easily get the deadbolt off with two small screwdrivers, one on each side and pull it up and off. That leaves the snap ring accessible. The discs are all numbered so you can decode or recode these. Pretty neat. I have a bunch if you have a desire to make a follow up vid.
Seems that Kryptonite is one of the few brands you actually like for bike locks. Nice video.
If it is a viable attack vector to use a grinder for 5 minutes, then picking on the street is most certainly on the table as an attack vector. I think you would agree, the notion that picking these types of locks is not a common skill, is a bit of security through obscurity.
Love the videos. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights!
Most attacks are going to be brute force as most bike thieves won't have the skills to pick a lock.
Agreed.
well gee whiz...…...now they do...…...doh.
If they had such skills they could make more money as locksmiths than crooks.
Which gives people who view these videos a little ease of mind, if most thieves rely on brute force and locks like this require either power tools or a developed skill to open, then their things are safer than those secured with easily breakable locks. I'd need an angle grinder and more than one disc to get through this lock, because i know there's no commercial bolt cutter that can make this easy. Unless of course, there is, and i just don't know about it
@@kirkendauhl6990 it's true there's no manual/manual hydraulic bolt cutter available that is going to even touch 18mm hardened steel twice amounts to 36mm ! more than an entire 1 inch in diameter to get through.
it can be cut with battery angle grinder but interestingly the best one available by Milwaukee will almost exhaust a fully charged lithium ion battery to low battery and same story with the disc.. any cheaper battery grinder just wont make it, a thief is unlikely to carry the best grinder and second battery due to expense/space.
at that point it's safe to assume it's almost angle grinder proof, thief is not going to carry a big generator and corded grinder as it would slow them down
however the "jaws of life" used by fire fighters to cut wrecked cars in crashes will do it but that's a huge tool and very expensive
18mm hardened steel though is approaching the upper limits of portable attack methods used by thieves. I think perhaps 25mm maybe even 30mm hardened steel shackle would see them off completely. if i knew how to make padlocks and u locks id make them that size myself for my own use and selling
I’ve just found this channel and spent the last 2 days watching as much as possible in all my free time! So interesting! Great job my dude!!
addictive, isn't it?
Why did I just watch an 8 minute review of a bike lock... I don’t even own a bike
Well, you can go buy some affordable one and join bike squad 😄😄👍👍🚲🚲
It teaches you how to get a bike if you don't have one.
@@BeyondEcstasy Nice 👍😁
i dont know how to ride a bike
He just taught you how to pick this lock now you can go take one
I was also wondering if they had false gates or not. Such a shame they don't. It's one of the key things I've learnt from this channel that can make picking harder. I guess Kryptonite is more focused on deterring brute force thieves than lock pickers.
That was quite impressive, both the lock and your skill.
Imma call this dude to break my locks when I need to get into my house lol 😂
This guy was an interesting voice. He makes this type of information so fascinating.
Oh ya locksmiths are people you can call when locked out. Ive used them before. They have vans with all their tools on it
I love this channel, he acts like there is a threat of locks in high security getting picked daily, and then picks them in mere minutes, ending with a joke. Incredible, I subbed.
Here in Brazil the most common attack is picking because it can be done discretely. Using cutters and saws can get the thief killed on spot. But thing is thieves are really quick at picking most locks.
They tried to do that shit on my bike. The only thing that got them caught is them being loud mouths.
I appreciate such detail in a video. Also appreciated is the education offered to your common thief, allowing a just so-so thief to truly elevate his/hers skills to the next level. And, of course, doing your part to push the economy forward with a multitude of bicycle, and bicycle lock sales! Thank you! As a locksmith (or whatever) you were invisible - a nobody. But now? These how-to videos have placed upon you the status of a shining beacon to the Urban Underworld! Bravo!
Love the fahgettaboudit writing
This is so delicate, I get the impression that even if you had memorise this technique then it would still take years of picking experience and/or both a very fine dexterous sense of what the tools were doing.
And tbh, as a food delivery driver who uses an extensive ebike, kryptonite locks are fantastic , I literally only need my lock to last about 60 seconds minimum, I use a krypto lock + a mid range alarm system, I have not lost my bike yet in 12 months (touch wood), I think it would have had a few attempts tho if I did not have q very loud alarm system that let's every1 within 100m know that I've just alarmed my bike !!
Very impressive and amazing skill indeed. I wonder how hard it would be for a would be thief to train himself to pick any locks by watching these videos...
+Grant H Lee I don't think it is hard... but Bike thieves tend not to have great work ethics.
That's so true!
Every lock system is defeatable, if not by picking then by force.
If the thief needs to invest in getting skills, they are probably going to just save time and go for bikes that can be had with some cheap bolt cutters.
Which lock do yoi recommend please answer me
if you can train yourself to do this you are probably capable of holding a more profitable and less risky job than bike thief
Got two yesterday and was checking out how to change the combo and I came across this video. I'm returning mine pronto.
This guy is a wizard lol, all thiefs are not as talented. Still the best bike lock on the market actually. i got one (new-u mini) and I am pretty satisfied, it's my main lock and I completed it with the evolution (standard size). Now, I just need to find a way to secure my accessories to avoid opportunists and double lock my wheels.
He's the Bob Ross of lock picking. "And here we will use a 40 mil rake pick. Locks just love rake picks."
An 8-minute video from LPL means the lock is good and the video worth watching.
I dont see most criminals in the dark being able to pick this as fast as you did!
That seems like a pretty specific set of tools and skills. I think you should give this lock more credit
Couldn't you make more money cracking safes than lawyering?
We have different definitions of “make.” 😋
Now you know how much a lawyer ‘makes’ to make your proposal uninteresting.
Your average lawyer bills out around $300 an hour. Due to my work, I know many lawyers and LPL seems above average, by far. So, probably not.
@Srbistanik 01 Easily, for an established practice with lucrative clientel.
@Srbistanik 01 That's nothing. I'm descended from one of these picks... er... pricks, and I picked the wrong father. Who would you mistrust more as an adversary, I ask you. A thief or a lawyer? Think about that. Uh-huh...
Kryptonite locks lineups are always reliable and high quality locks. This is my go-to brand.
Best line of defence is a lock that when you crack it, spits toxic lethal gas, so when you come back, the thief is lying death next to your bike
You better hope the chance of the toxic gas mechanism accidentally releasing on you or your family is lower than the chance of a thief taking your bike.
Well, I know plenty of places that would match your ratio
explosive lock is best, when cut or keyway fiddled for too long it explodes. if you cant have your bike then no one can lol
hang em high, in public like they do in amsterdam
@@ruan13o Use sarin. thing dissipates really quicky. It'll be lethal enough for someone at picking distance but safe for everyone else
Ohh damn it I just bought one of these for my motorbike. OK it was a bit fiddly to pick, but then you can pick any lock! These lock companies must hate you!
Glad you recommend it though its a tough lock, heavy and sturdy!
Man love this guy he is so chill but such a bad ass
I was looking at this in a bike shop and I saw the price then looked at it and thought has the lock picking lawer done a video on it because it was a ten I wondered if it meant the actual core security or the body of it but this has just answered all my questions thanks!
You could say the lack of false gates **puts on sunglasses** is that lock's kryptonite.
*YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!*
Nice theorization and knowledge sharing! Half of the things he shows are actually useless in real life. Thieves usually got little time and not a bag tools with them!
In the end, it would be nice to have a hit list of the best locks per utilization (best locks for bikes, for homes, etc...).
there are times where youtube recommendations comes in clutch. this is one of those times
A true testament to the quality of a state and it’s people- when an entire class of security devices have their own category just for that state.
Wow, that was very impressive, and very discouraging at the same time. Thanks for making and sharing this video.
The lock survived 4 mins against this guy with what isn't the most common equipment. The sturdy frame and being a disk detainer in the first place is safety enough in most cases.
I took u a bit to get it open. Thats the one I have to secure my bike. So proud of it.
Several specialised tools
Several attempts by a specialist to pick it
Brute force is not an option
= impressive lock, I would look out for if I had a bike 😉
Not to mention, try doing all of that in broad daylight in public
Yeah, there isn't really an incognito way to get into this bad boy.
Yes. And he's in the comfort of his own home, no distractions, sat in a comfy chair, in the perfect position on his work table. I'd like to see how quickly he gets in on the city streets, with the prospect of being caught, arrested or beaten at any moment, the noise of the city obscuring the sounds of the pins, maybe bad weather, with the lock probably down low to the ground without easy access to the keyway. I would bet it would take twice as long for him to get in, or maybe even longer.
Cheaper alternative is to just buy a couple good u locks
If brute force doesn't work, you aren't using enough of it. You can cut it with the angle grinder anytime. It just takes a few minutes. I have seen videos of thieves cutting the thickest locks with power tools with very little regard to the surroundings.
thanks for the video and one take away lesson for me. clamp the lock on in such away that it is on an awkward angle to insert pick tools if possible (i am thinking a motorcycle). i didn't read all 1000 comments so i apologize if this has been mentioned before.
You know he’s serious when the vid is longer than 2 mins
LPL likes kryptonite. Kryptonite is his kryptonite
Well picked! and here is me going to buy one of those to secure my motorcycle. second thoughts now.
I love your videos. Thanks for your honest review of this lock since it is my favorite lock for protecting my bike.
LPL's videos are like star ratings. The longer the video, the higher quality the lock.
No homo but your voice is soothing as hell and can listen you talk all day
Thanks for clarifying. My day would have been ruined if I knew a gay guy complimented his voice.
Time for "Relaxing lock picking ASMR" LOL
LOL his voice sounded like those random fishes in Spongebob.
I didn't even know he was picking locks, I was just listening to him in the background while working. Prolly watched like 5 videos before realizing that I'm watching "how to pick a lock 101" channel
He sounds like "Bear in the big blue house"
I just found your video about the Kryptonite Evolution 4 chain lock. Thanks!
Incredibly skilled hands indeed! Like your technique. A wealth of information here. Looks like my lock of choice though...
Thanks... and it’s not a bad choice. 👍
I always pronounced it in a germanic style: Feh-Gat-Booh-Deet! Thanks for illuminating me on this model! :P
This guy is pretty damn good. What really amazes me is the tool he used. How could someone come up with that thing?!
the approval of any Lock by LPL is a 10/5 review
Yeah, this one seems solid. Great video.
I hv one these too and picked as you showed. It is a beauty and visually a strong deterrent
This seems like an amazing lock. You’d need to modify your already custom tools. And most bike thieves will just cut the bar, which they can’t here. I had to steal my own scooter once when I lost the key. We probably looked really suspicious driving up with wire cutters and grabbing the scooter.
Great job picking as usual brother, too bad they didn't put false gates in,really is a shame. Guess they're just hoping that most pickers dont know how to pick disc detainers but frankly the knowledge is out there so they should know better. Thanks for the review!
So this is what it's like to pick disk detainer core before pick that bosnian bill and i make exist.
glad i found this comment
@@aahillakhani399 Yet now that TPTBBAIM exists, LPL doesn't think this lock does enough any more.. th-cam.com/video/jZtNEC1uGg4/w-d-xo.html
Essentially he's pushed the proverbial envelope so far that it has been ripped to shreds. What will the next iteration of genuinely high security bike locks look like? They've got to be able to keep out unskilled to intermediate lockpickers, not have any exploitable bypasses, strong enough to hold up against brute force attacks, light enough to make them practical to bring with you everywhere, cheap enough to be affordable to the average consumer (ideally under $200), and able to be mass-produced.
The gauntlet has been thrown down to lock manufacturers though. Whoever can build a lock that checks all those boxes is going to sell tons of them... Well at least until LPL makes another tool to defeat them with a little bit of practice as well.
Looks like a great lock. Picking is a rare skill.
Dear LockPickingLawyer, you really should consider making educational videos for the ESL classroom! Your pronunciation is so nuanced and your voice is calming. :) If all locks of this world are picked, it's time to start another career. :)
At the hacker conference called DEFCON, there's a whole area dedicated to lockpicking. It's really cool. I can't wait for my picks to arrive and to start picking! Very excited about it! If I get half as good as you, I'll go to DEFCON!
After shitting on how easy and faulty it was to pick this "10 out of 10" lock, I see Kryptonite has decided to sponsor this video lol
This video was very helpful. Since I'm in college I left my bike overnight near my dorm and when I went home for Thanksgiving it was gone. $635 bike stolen and never seen it again. Fortunately I got a $1000 2018 Jamis Durango Expert Hardtail bike for half the price and invested THE BEST kryptonite bike lock with extra cables for extra security. The main reason why I gotten this bike is because its better than my Giant Talon 2014 bike and I want to get back into mountain biking since I'm riding a lot more. Again very helpful video.
Word of advice: Don't get a really expensive bike unless you get a huge discounted price. Also college is the place where many many people are desperately needing a bike. Typically the University of Arkansas.
EDIT: Part of the reason why I gotten a huge discounted price is because my dad is in second place in the national mountain bike association. (Don't know whats it called)
This here seems like a pretty "solid" lock. If it wasn't worth more than my bike i would consider getting one. XD
That's fair. Probably not worth it if your bike is worth less than £150
I remember back in the day when I was a juvenile delinquent we could break those older Kryptonite locks open in less then 20 seconds. The older Kryptonite U locks had a design flaw where the bottom locking lug on the lock and key side was a lot longer and stuck out more to where you could take a 2 inch steal pipe and slide it over it and use leverage standing on it and it would pop right off. This was back in the early 90’s when a lot of people thought those locks were indestructible. Sadly they weren’t lol
2:51 - 4:11 he sounds like an eye doctor
PINK Gamer facts
PINK Gamer more like dentist😂😂😂😂
Oh god, you're so right.
OK, what's better, one or two? One or two?
@@mikeobie1 eeeeehhhhh
Great public service. Thank you for doing these instructive videos. Be great to see a comparison video of ABUS Granit X-Plus.
I own this lock - seems good enough of a deterrent for the bike rooms at my office and condo building. My gripe is the horrible rattle this lock makes in its holster on my bike frame. For this $$$ Kryptonite should figure this out.
sorry to be late but personally i have a lock holder attached to the underside of the seat and that works well
The garbage man must be like WTF when he looks at your recycle and garbage bins, with all these locks... lol love watching these.
Thank you for interesting video. I'd say anyone with similar to yours peculiar set of skills can do better then stealing bikes even if he decided to live a life of criminal.:)
I lock my $200-300 cheaper bike with Abus granite and more expensive $1500 bike with both Abus that I carry on my frame and Fahgettaboudit that I keep at my workplace. Kryptonite lock considering weight and luck of options to secure it to bike frame is a huge pain to carry around.
I never leave my bikes overnight outside and lock it on busy streets in front of some business or a bank with cameras upfront. I feel ok. Not like totally sure no one ever steal my bike, but more like it is easier to steal someone else's bike than mine.
It was a good lock 6 years ago, nowadays that hardened steel shackle could be easily cut with an angle grinder in seconds. I was impressed with this lock when I bought it two years ago, now I'm throwing my angle grinder compromised Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit and my Abus Granit X-Plus 540 u-locks in the trash along with the keys.
What about Hiplock DX1000?
@@diegoyuiop If it's anything like the legendary D1000 (and it pretty much will be with a slightly longer shackle), the DX1000, along with the Litelok X3 will be amongst the toughest u-locks on the planet! Mind-blowing angle grinder resistance, you'll need 5 - 6 cutting wheels, a lot of time and skill to be able to cut it completely open!
Yeah I saw a video about the D1000 and truly exceeded any expectations. Frankly it's expensive but I think it's a good investment, especially for expensive ebikes or scooters as it's still cheaper than 5k!@@moochincrawdad
@@diegoyuiop I had all I can take from these scrotes, my Specialized Sirrus stolen from the middle of town 7 years ago and my Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0 SL, almost nicked from outside a university building just a few weeks ago. The only thing stopping them was they accidentally slashed the front tyre trying to make a second cut to the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit with their angle grinder.
I bought a couple of Litelok X1 u-locks and I'm now waiting for a GPS bike tracker to be delivered.
I use one of these things, it jams all the time so good luck to getting it off my bike as cannot do that sometimes with the bloody key and wd40.
Kiln Firelink hey I had this problem also lol I’m assuming it rained etc rust so just clean the inside and spray some cooking oil
@@davidelias6275 Never use cooking oil to lubricate a lock! It will soon oxidise and gum up your lock completely. Use a proper teflon-based lubricant instead.
Don't force it just rotate the key back and forth slightly while inserting it and occasionally drop in some oil. Mine is out in the elements all the time and never jams, but I get why you'd think that, it sometimes takes a little finesse.
I'll buy this one. Anyone with the patience to learn the technique to pick this has a brighter future doing something other than stealing bikes.
There is ONE way to make a lock almost immune to a grinder, but it is expensive. When the steel is molten, before casting, mix in powdered silicon carbide. While not as hard as a diamond (mohs 10) it is close enough (9.25) to wear out even a diamond tool in a minute or two. Even tungsten carbide (9) is sufficiently soft to be destroyed by dispersed silicon carbide.
Now this is coming from a backyard blacksmith, but would that interfere with the grain structure? Or would that particle size be small enough that it would create weak points where it is likely to shear? I could definitely see tungsten carbide coated rods, but to actually have it mixed in with the steel? I don't know how that would affect the structural integrity of the steel. But I know from experience even if a small portion of a blade doesn't harden and temper properly and martinzite doesn't form evenly you could have a snapped blade with a small flick in the right spot. Could be WAAAAY off, but I like hypotheticals, especially with someone who claims to have a PhD.
What if your key breaks? 😂 Big L
@@DarthRogue777 You must have a sturdy key made of high-strength steel.
I had an older, much older model of Kryptonite lock on a bike...and due to arrogance and stupidity the bike was still stolen. I was in the Navy, stationed in Bermuda, and a few people were very stubbornly " proprietary " about who should use which section of the bike storage lean-to outside the barracks. I thought that I would push home the point that with very ample space to spare, that having " designated " bike parking was foolish. One night I parked the bike but instead of securing the U section of the lock to the building, (as I had done for weeks) I just locked the rear wheel and frame within the U.
Yeah, someone lifted the bike, but I doubt it was ever ridden again.
Kryptonite is probably one of the best bike lock brands out there, when used correctly.
When your lock cost twice as much as your bike you worry more about the lock getting stolen.lol.
Methodical and informative. Great vid !
Appreciate the insight into this lock - I rely on it to protect my bikes. Do you think Kryptonite could be persuaded to upgrade it with the anti-pick measures you've suggested? Since the lock core is so easy to remove, they could (in theory) provide new ones to existing users.
You are a genius Dennis
I've always wondered, has anyone ever hired you to help design a lock? It's like these clowns enjoy getting embarrassed when you obliterate their locks.
excellent vid, not sure why i spent so much money on this lock now haha
As an avid cyclist, the ironic thing about most commercial bicycle locks is they're impractical for us to use. In fairness, it's not the lock manufacturers at fault so much as it is high-end bicycles weren't built with anti-theft in mind. Just about anyone could strip a couple thousand $ in components from a locked high-end bicycle faster than it takes a skilled picker to pick this lock. That said, they still have their place among bike commuters and messengers who have no choice.
+thechosendude I know what you mean. I invested in some special scrutiny head screws for my road bike... For those short trips into convenience stores while on really long rides.
LockPickingLawyer please do a video on your bike security setup. Thanks
Every bike weighs 30 lbs. 20 lb bike? 10 lb lock. 29 lb bike? 1 lb lock.
Use locking skewers (Pitlock, Pinhead, etc) for wheels, seatpost, and fork. Super-glue a ball bearing into allen bolts and use acetone later to dissolve the glue when you want to remove it. A bike that has $2000 worth of components on it shouldn't be left in the street anyway.
Part of realistic antitheft in the urban setting is having a POS bike not worth stealing.
I have to live on a different place than LockPickingLawyer - and then i am save ❤ - really great job and i admire your skills - thank you for all the videos
this is a very popular bike lock in NYC
I live in Brooklyn and this exact same lock on every bike
Bike Thieves in Staten Island are no joke either , I knew a person who's go into people's backyards just to get a bike
@@unowntomost what a low life
I must say it's nice living somewhere where a lock is rarely needed in the first place.
I hope kryptonite adds some false gates, I really love this lock and want my shit to be safe.
your shit aint safe a portable grinder, sawzall, bandsaw will get through that in under 1 minute. fuck it'll go through that in under thirty seconds. a sawzall wont have sparks, a bandsaw you'll hardly hear and it wont spark
@@snoopyshultz you take a band saw onto the street to cut a lock off a bike? You think you really can get through a guarded steel 18mm shackle in 30 seconds? I am not an expert, but with the specs of this lock based on all the destructive tests I have seen, no way.
@@snoopyshultz how do you carry a bandsaw with you??
Check out the Knog Strongman High-Security Bicycle U-Lock
PN H it's 2018 portable bandsaw exist and the smallest ones are rated for 1 5/8 " cuts a 18 mm pipe ain't going to do shit . ask any iron worker, plumber, fitter, metal workers how quick it'll cut through 18 mm lol
The man with the magic fingers.
How many garden variety tweeker bike thieves would be capable of this performance? I would guess virtually close to zero. Those idiots would seek out easier pickings.
This lock is for expensive bike and for those expensive bike there are some pro thief whi will male great effort to steal the bike
right. IF they had the tools and skill they really wouldn't be stealing bikes...
Thank you for showing every 12 year old and his dog how to steal my bicycle. I am disabled and rely on my bike to go pretty much anywhere because although I can ride I can barely walk. Thank you again for your great service to honest people.
I think New York bike thieves usually just take angle grinders to the shackle.
Edit: and you just said that in the video right after I wrote this. Haha
Or just take the angle grinder to the much thinner steel post that's holding up the STOP sign (or bike rack, tree, garbage can...)
Thanks for showing me how to pick this lock.
How it would do against Ramset? And what is the thickest shackle Ramset can go trough? I have Oxford Boss 16mm.
I suspect this would laugh off the ramset. Great materials and super beefy construction.
I knew a Ramset wouldn't touch this
Great video! Fantastic work!
You should sell T-shirts that say "This is an awkward position" it's your catch phrase
What on earth is that amazing gadget!
I’m glad you’re not on the other team!
PLEASE try on Abus granit x plus u lock
Didn't he say in a video that he and many other pen testers have failed in trying to pick that lock?
Thank you for your reviews. From Australia with love
Lock Picking Lawyer makes an improved version of the Fahgettaboudit.
Calls it the *res judicata*
You made that lock your "sweet little girl". So funny to watch you just destroy Kryptonite's best.