Shard: The Redemption of Metal Sonic

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    There are few characters in the history of the Sonic franchise that have gone on the journey of Shard. The original Metal Sonic of the Archie series that would evolve in a way we have never seen for most of the mainstay characters in any canon. Today I look at both the good and bad steps in the story of one of the most interesting Sonic robots in the series.
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  • @Distant_Dubstep
    @Distant_Dubstep ปีที่แล้ว +1826

    Shard is such a tragic character for only reasons outside of his own fault. Both real world and in universe reasons too

    • @B-rex395
      @B-rex395 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      I feel that. Sega and their stupid mandates really screwed the poor guy.

    • @BRANMiiNO_Animations
      @BRANMiiNO_Animations ปีที่แล้ว +25

      damn bro...

    • @Kodiak_Smiles
      @Kodiak_Smiles ปีที่แล้ว +21

      i know i should take him and his story seriously but his names is to similar to *shart* and i cant stop giggling like an idiot

    • @darkninja2992
      @darkninja2992 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I still miss shard, hate that p*nders screwed him and other characters over

    • @Mariocat99
      @Mariocat99 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He kind of reminds me of Deadpool

  • @Yozzoy
    @Yozzoy ปีที่แล้ว +953

    One other cool thing to note too is that Post Reboot Gemeral is given a lot of Shards personality, so I like to think that the Ian and the crew wanted to explore more concepts with him as a stand in for Shard.

    • @angrybrony
      @angrybrony ปีที่แล้ว +26

      yeah well it sucked seeing him as a gemerl fan.

    • @yocapo32
      @yocapo32 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@angrybrony
      I mean, it's not like Gemerl ever _had_ a personality to begin with besides "Murder everything" and "Possibly Emerl again, maybe?".

    • @CalebVela682
      @CalebVela682 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      ​​​@@yocapo32 At least in IDW they finally gave Gemerl an actual personality and did him justice

    • @bigs5078
      @bigs5078 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Fun fact: Shard was *originally* intended to be Gemerl, but SEGA was being weird about which characters could and couldn't be used at the time, do they used Shard instead. His colour scheme is in turn a dual reference to Gemerl and Metal 3.0.

    • @Kronos_Knight
      @Kronos_Knight ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a fan comic that goes over this exact situation
      th-cam.com/video/79M7AEqP4LI/w-d-xo.html

  • @alexfraser8352
    @alexfraser8352 ปีที่แล้ว +1199

    I really hate the fact that he essentially dies the moment he's about to tell nicole how he feels. He shuts down & then immediately gets erased from existence.
    Shard X Nicole would've been the cutest couple ever 😢

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      42nd 👍

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      We were robbed. It reminds me alot of Masterchief and Cortana in halo.

    • @IdentifiantE.S
      @IdentifiantE.S ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes that’s really sad 🥲

    • @JosiahDavis-kr5fd
      @JosiahDavis-kr5fd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @somethingwithaz8237 Yes.
      I wonder what EXACTLY is stopping them from coming back...?

    • @BobThePenguin.
      @BobThePenguin. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@JosiahDavis-kr5fd copyright.

  • @DewMan31
    @DewMan31 ปีที่แล้ว +697

    Its interesting how both Metal Sonic and Shadow differ as foils to Sonic. I think whats really cool is how Shard works as a foil to Metal Sonic, considering how the metal doppelganger has only ever been someone else's foil. Its a shame that Shard likely wont ever come back. He became such a well written character by the end.

    • @RaphielShiraha64
      @RaphielShiraha64 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      gemerl pretty much replaced shard in regards to the comics.

    • @mutanttepig4759
      @mutanttepig4759 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah Shard essentially became Metal Sonic's version of shadow in a very weird way.

  • @spennyspectacular353
    @spennyspectacular353 ปีที่แล้ว +587

    Why are all the most compelling and well-written Sonic characters robots? Gamma, Emerl, and Shard all are so cool to me. Omega's also a consistently awesome character.

    • @Makorze
      @Makorze ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Omega is kinda funny. He knows killing is bad, however giving people PTSD from the sheer amount of firepower he has is acceptable.

    • @johngulster7787
      @johngulster7787 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And gamma.

    • @redactedoktor
      @redactedoktor ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@Makorze Killing is bad, but there’s no moral limit to the amount of explosions and destruction possible as long as it’s not fatal!

    • @SADmemer.
      @SADmemer. ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Robot superior…flesh inferior

    • @EchidnaSharp
      @EchidnaSharp ปีที่แล้ว +6

      sage also (kind of)

  • @certifiednobody
    @certifiednobody ปีที่แล้ว +867

    I love the theory that Shard was reincarnated in the Reboot universe as Gemerl, due to their similar colors and backstories.

    • @bigs5078
      @bigs5078 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Chauvel's comic was heartwarming.

    • @AlphaZeroX96
      @AlphaZeroX96 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Gemerl was from Sonic Advance 3. He wasn't made for the comics.

    • @certifiednobody
      @certifiednobody ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@AlphaZeroX96 Yeah I know

    • @AlphaZeroX96
      @AlphaZeroX96 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@certifiednobody Why do people treat him like a IDW character then? It doesn't make sense.

    • @amagicalbeing7427
      @amagicalbeing7427 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      ​@@AlphaZeroX96 because he was given a personality there and is just more fleshed out

  • @WithFearGaming
    @WithFearGaming ปีที่แล้ว +376

    Man, that's the saddest story I've heard since Shadow's Origin Story. Would've loved to see Shard adapted to the anime, or even a game. Could've been a fan favorite

    • @Unknowntraveler302
      @Unknowntraveler302 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The kill everyone or the gets killed off instantly metal was getting pretty boring so I’m pretty glad I found this

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    Love the irony that despite Shard looking less like Sonic (being a clear homage to Metal Sonic v3.0 from Rivals), he ends up resembling him more personality wise.

    • @mikedanielespeja6128
      @mikedanielespeja6128 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And it HURTS

    • @kanemccarthy1979
      @kanemccarthy1979 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I always thought he was an homage to Bass from Mega Man lol

    • @MegaManXegesis
      @MegaManXegesis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, I'm curious about the writing process, since he shares so many similarities with Bass, visually and otherwise.
      It almost seems like they saw the Rivals look, and got inspired to write a fanfiction ending to Bass's incomplete budding-antihero arc through Shard, who was already very similar, but were cut tragically short due to external factors, just like Bass's arc was.
      But that's just conjecture.
      A COMICS CONJECTURE.
      THANKS FOR WATCHING.

  • @hannahpestell18
    @hannahpestell18 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    Cant lie I teared up a little bit at the end there. Shard meant a lot to me as a kid and his search for connections but feeling unable to was something that resonated with me so much. I mourn never being able to see him again but I hope that videos like this show people how wonderful he became by the end.

    • @DarktoLight561
      @DarktoLight561 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, he is a robot, for all we know he could have been repaired for a few years

    • @hannahpestell18
      @hannahpestell18 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@DarktoLight561 obviously it's hard to say with the cancellation. But with the implication that everything that allowed him to have a soul was within the power gem, And them saying they didn't really have a concrete story plan for him it did feel very final. Even if they rebuilt the body it wouldn't be the same person

    • @DarktoLight561
      @DarktoLight561 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hannahpestell18 Hopefully they can bring him back how he originally was

    • @valmid5069
      @valmid5069 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      If it helps; he still appears in Sonic Archie Online (similar spinoff continuation as much as Sonic The Comic Online)

    • @DarktoLight561
      @DarktoLight561 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wait really? YES!

  • @scottsantacruz313
    @scottsantacruz313 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Shard was the Metal Sonic I wanted so badly to happen as a child, A Metal Sonic who breaks the traditional mold and sees the light, Shard was taken before his time, and is gravely missed.

    • @cfruge444
      @cfruge444 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      < Shard was the Metal Sonic I wanted so badly to happen as a child, A Metal Sonic who breaks the traditional mold and sees the light
      Mecha Sonic Mark II: *exists*

  • @anonbefallen4807
    @anonbefallen4807 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    This is literally my all-time favorite character from the Archie books. Thankyou so much for covering this guy!

    • @neoluna1172
      @neoluna1172 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mood

    • @pestilynce
      @pestilynce ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn, makes me wish I had read this back in the day. This story really tugs at the emotions. What an amazing character.

    • @Lindsay-nx5sv
      @Lindsay-nx5sv ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm glad they got the name Metal Sonic squared away eventually early in the series, because the only true Mecha-Sonic is the Robotized Sonic from Archie issue 39.

    • @anonbefallen4807
      @anonbefallen4807 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Lindsay-nx5svlmfao

  • @thatonezekrom8725
    @thatonezekrom8725 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    One thing I love about shard from seeing this video was how expressive he is, how his eyes and mouth weren't just static plates of metal, it makes him more of the artificial life form he is
    (also, I can't help but think of anime metabee when I see shard, despite being aware of the latter far longer than the former)

    • @thatonezekrom8725
      @thatonezekrom8725 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      on the topic of thinking about robots from a more obscure franchise, IDW's Mecha Sonic (at first glace, I've only barely start at the beginning of the entire comic) gives me MASSIVE Rokusho vibes
      Both characters have their similarities: tattered cloak, gentle personality, maybe even being guardians as well
      I'm wondering if the writers and designers of the IDW comics took direct inspiration from the Medabots franchise when creating Mecha Sonic's character. If that's the case, then I think this is a second time Medabots had a part in the IDW comics, the other time I believe it was a cameo during development of one of the panels of a comic before Scrapnik Island where tails had a collection of figurines of robots, including the likes of Undertale's Mettaton and the already previously mentioned Medabot's Metabee ... sadly I think they ended up being obscured by a speech bubble in the completed panel

  • @rocky-my5ck
    @rocky-my5ck ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Everytime I get to issue 50, I alway get sad, because it's a great story, but it was done to deal with characters sega didn't want anymore.
    I'll always miss you, shard...

  • @chi-wind8593
    @chi-wind8593 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Shard. Man,I have not seen this character in awhile. I love his character development over the course of the comic.

  • @NightFuryLover31
    @NightFuryLover31 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Shard is my favorite Archie character. His growth as a his own person is amazing. Something random into something we never expected and love. It hit hard when Shard tried to voice Sonic's own advice for Metal in his final issue, "There's more to life." And while it's never stated, a lot of fans, myself included, feel like Shard could have been reborn in the reboot as Gemerl. Not only having the same color schemes, but also Gemerl's personality is similar.
    My favorite headcanon, if they existed in the same universe, is Shard and Belle becoming siblings. Even Evan Stanley had mentioned this idea once. That made me so happy.

    • @Glitchedpixel5
      @Glitchedpixel5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I need him back bro... It's not fair😭

  • @Fanatic_Foremem
    @Fanatic_Foremem ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I do think that Shard did continue into the reboot, Gemerl speaks like him in archie and even does a lot of taunts with double meaning to Metal Sonic. Intentional or not, Archie gemerl was effectively the reboots version of shard.

    • @someguyand...whatever23
      @someguyand...whatever23 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Technically it's similar to Surge being the new Scourge. They wanted to fill in the emptiness that Archie left behind.

    • @Fanatic_Foremem
      @Fanatic_Foremem ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@someguyand...whatever23 Similar but Gemerl felt like a recast where as Surge felt like a full blown passing of the torch, since she looks to have her own story arcs on top of carrying on some of Scourges.

    • @someguyand...whatever23
      @someguyand...whatever23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Fanatic_Foremem I can see that. Either way it's good to see reincarnations of Sonic characters that don't exist anymore.

  • @sonicrunn3r895
    @sonicrunn3r895 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Shard is probably my favourite incarnation of Metal. He's so damn fun and I miss him so much. His personality kinda lived on for a bit post-reboot in Gemeral, but sadly his archetype is sorely missed in IDW.

  • @justarandomdude797
    @justarandomdude797 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    and here I was thinking that Shard got rejected from Mecha March Madness. You just saved him for a 40 min. video on him. Great work as always :)
    (I'm still waiting for the 1 hour long Metal Sonic analysis )

    • @AlphaZeroX96
      @AlphaZeroX96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's flawed honestly.

  • @ftthecartoon
    @ftthecartoon ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Shard is my favorite Archie Character. He's so cool and has a great story.

  • @staticmix1493
    @staticmix1493 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Shard and Nicole are just adorable and I wish there was more time of them hanging out

    • @shardsoftime0952
      @shardsoftime0952 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They were so cute, and are two great characters anyway

    • @staticmix1493
      @staticmix1493 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shardsoftime0952 I know right, underrated in my opinion

  • @SolidSneakers
    @SolidSneakers ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Funny enough I was just looking back into Shard about a month ago and realized that at a certain point he was one of the few badniks built by the original Robotnik still running around. They had that weird plotline where Robotnik had died just to be replaced by a self-roboticized Robotnik from a reality where he managed to defeat the freedom fighters and then tried to invade the prime reality because he literally had nothing better to do. The first time around he showed up as a one-time villain where he sent out a bunch of his SWATbots to attack Sonic's world but it was actually the original Robotnik who sent out his own SWATbots to fend off the attack. This showed us that for whatever reason despite not being able to defeat his version of Sonic, Prime Robotnik was capable of building robots that were superior to ones built by a Robotnik who won. That's why I thought it was pretty interesting when you consider the fact that the current Eggman wasn't even dealing with his own robot when it came to Shard but rather his predecessor's, even when he sent his own Metal Sonic to deal with him Shard still had the upper hand forcing the newer model to self-destruct as a last resort. Now I 100% doubt it was intentional but I still thought it was a pretty neat reference.

    • @minimalbstolerance8113
      @minimalbstolerance8113 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      God, that whole "double Robotnik" thing was crazy. Robotnik dies, is replaced with a roboticised Robotnik from another dimension, who gets blown up but downloads his personality into a new body (so Archie can introduce the modern Eggman design) which eventually gets de-roboticised and turned into a human by aliens.

    • @greenlightning6803
      @greenlightning6803 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That whole thing sure was screwy really thinking about it

    • @redactedoktor
      @redactedoktor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@minimalbstolerance8113 Kinda in love with it actually. It’s so crazy.

  • @raequizzle9713
    @raequizzle9713 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Part of the reason I like Gemerl in both the Archie and IDW comics so much is because he felt like a spiritual successor to Shard, one of Archie Sonic’s greatest characters. I appreciate this review reminding me of this gem of a character, well done Nick 👏🏽

    • @AlphaZeroX96
      @AlphaZeroX96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gemerl was from Advance 3, not IDW.

    • @esteban8471
      @esteban8471 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AlphaZeroX96I think they meant to say the way Gemerl is portrayed in IDW reminds them of Shard.

    • @AlphaZeroX96
      @AlphaZeroX96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@esteban8471 Ah.

  • @jocosejpeg
    @jocosejpeg ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Seeing the notification for this vid was a bit of a personal jumpscare because I was JUST thinking about how Shard is basically the "Good Ending" outcome for game canon's Metal the other day. Instead of having his suppressed identity crisis build up and eventually boil over as seen in Heroes and Free Riders, Shard was grounded early on and became just like "the real Sonic" in his own way: through his heroics.
    Metal Sonic has always been my favourite Sonic character by far, even if he's rather overplayed nowadays. Shard was such a fascinating departure from the tried-and-true murder machine that I was on board with the character from day 1, and the fact that he had a multitude of meaningful interactions with my second-favourite Sonic character (Nicole) just made me love him even more.
    I'm so glad to see you finally cover this lovable leaden lad. Keep up the good work, Nick!!

  • @SqueakerBunny
    @SqueakerBunny ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I never liked Archie, but Shard is that one thing that i will forever miss, as you said he was special, and knowing that we might never get something close to him every again its really heartbreaking

    • @tepin2115
      @tepin2115 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, Archie's storylines weren't for everyone. Though, I also like how Shadow's character was also fleshed out. At one point, he even tried to convince Metal Sonic to turn in his Evil Badnik card, but it was all moot. He's more open about what he thinks and reacts to Maria's ghost, unlike the Sonic X anime, games and the Sonic Boom series version of him (the game exceptions are Sonic The Hedgehog '06. I think that was one of his best versions and also in Sonic Rivals 2, where he's willing to partner with Metal Sonic).
      Also loved that they included the SATAM series characters. Sally always seemed like a better love interest than anime-like "cutesy and nice, but gets angry at the drop of a hat" Amy. If she ever becomes a main character in a game, they had better improve on her personality.

    • @SqueakerBunny
      @SqueakerBunny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tepin2115 One of my biggest problems with Archie is exactly the SatAm characters. I never liked any of them, and I always felt like they dragged Sonic down, especially Sally.
      I don't know, I always felt like if you put the game Sonic into that world, Robotnik would lose in like 2 hours.

  • @AutobotSonicTheTelltaleGamer
    @AutobotSonicTheTelltaleGamer ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I've waited YEARS for you to cover Shard! As you can tell by my PFP, he's my favorite character in not just the Archie Comics, but the entire franchise as well! It really made me love Metal Sonic, and I wish more than anything, Shard got a proper ending. I really wish got to have a proper friendship/rivalry with Sonic like Knuckles and Shadow, become friends with Tails and Amy, and even properly fall in love with Nicole. At the very least, Shard DOES live on in Ghosts of the Future, a fan comic by current IDW Sonic writer/artist Evan Stanley! I would love to see you cover that comic if you can!

    • @shardsoftime0952
      @shardsoftime0952 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too, he is AMAZING.
      When i think of metal sonic, archie sonic issue 86 is the first thing i think about, then OVA

    • @AlphaZeroX96
      @AlphaZeroX96 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not canon.

    • @ragewireloki6213
      @ragewireloki6213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@AlphaZeroX96You know that there is more than 1 canon right? Comic canon, game canon. Its all different. Yes, Shard isn’t canon to the games but doesn’t mean he is completely non-canon. Also denouncing a character just because he isn’t canon is kinda disrespectful to both the character and the writer, because it isn’t canon, to the canon you like, therefore it must suck. That is a horrible mindset. It practically says fanmade stuff sucks because it isn’t canon.

    • @AlphaZeroX96
      @AlphaZeroX96 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ragewireloki6213 I wasn't saying they suck.

  • @AmyStrikesBack
    @AmyStrikesBack ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Shard's redesign looks so squishable and more carismatic, he looks out of murder drones and i love it

    • @kirbyfan4
      @kirbyfan4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Shart

    • @ragewireloki6213
      @ragewireloki6213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Shard and N would be best friends.

  • @tastethepainbow
    @tastethepainbow ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Oh, double upload!
    Anyways, yeah, Shard was one of the best parts of Pre-Reboot Archie. Glad it seems like that they're trying the concept of a good Sonic robot again with Mecha Sonic in IDW.

  • @ThatIdiotOmega
    @ThatIdiotOmega ปีที่แล้ว +13

    32:42
    Fun fact: this final page of Shards final issue leads directly to the Worlds Collide arc, which was an official crossover with the Mega Man series that also rebooted the entire Sonic comic in universe.

  • @Bravice
    @Bravice ปีที่แล้ว +11

    40 minute video essay on my favorite Archie Sonic character of all time? Hell yeah I'mma spend an afternoon on this!

  • @valmid5069
    @valmid5069 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    *Shard is a greatly underrated character, thanks for an interesting biotopic on him! Can't wait for more content*

  • @smugsneasel
    @smugsneasel ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I remember when they functionally replaced him with Gemerl in the rebooted universe, and thought "I love Gemerl being a mainstay...but it's just not the same."

  • @thedarkest9
    @thedarkest9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I actually love the 87-88 Metal Sonic design. It’s a bit clunky, but his cone spines look sharp and distinguishes him from his fleshy counterpart. His joints have a mechanical look with hinges for his elbows and his ankles being huge to compensate for the speeds he would run at. And while the mouth is a bit odd, his screen eyes a expressive and distinct. He looks like he can not only out pace the blue blur, but also best him in strength.

  • @dragoncross42
    @dragoncross42 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Glad to see a video going over Shard and his journey from his time as an evil robot to being remade into a hero all the way to his end. I loved the idea of Shard changing his ways and growing pass his programing, thanks for the double videos today, they were awesome to watch~!!!

  • @NovusDundus
    @NovusDundus ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Looks like they had the potential to make Shard a kind of a "Shadow" to Metal

    • @TrueBladeSoul
      @TrueBladeSoul 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hell if sega was determined that there could only be one metal sonic then Shard could have been changed to Proto metal sonic the prototype version

  • @CJs_Will
    @CJs_Will ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Metal sonic is an amazingly written character, especially in IDW, especially when he tries to infect himself with the metal virus. Shard was strange to me at first, but i ended up really enjoying his character as his time in the Archie series developed.

    • @dragonborn7955
      @dragonborn7955 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Metal Sonic having great character development in IDW? No he doesn't, he's just a robot that kills. ONE short story isn't enough.

    • @CJs_Will
      @CJs_Will ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@dragonborn7955 bro, the way he goes back to doctor eggman, and the way he has so many chances to betray his creator but stays by his side. The only time he ever helps sonic is when he is explicitly asked to by eggman, really shows his loyalty. Robots can be written well.

    • @CometX-ing
      @CometX-ing ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@CJs_Will I wouldn’t call that well written unless IDW actually does something with it. Because at the moment he’s JUST a really strong Badnik and not his own character. Metal Sonic works best when he has his own autonomy, which the IDW version barely has.

    • @CJs_Will
      @CJs_Will ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CometX-ing i just like his loyalty, how he isn’t like the other robots whose programming is magically changed by the power of friendship, and instead stays true to how he was originally designed.

    • @CometX-ing
      @CometX-ing ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@CJs_Will Metal Sonic’s loyalty coming from his programming is what cheapens it. The fact that it’s not a conscious decision to stay evil means its not really loyalty to Eggman that causes him to want to protect him, its just his coding. Which isn’t really compelling or interesting, its just standard function of a robot to obey its master.

  • @fromashesreborn.
    @fromashesreborn. ปีที่แล้ว +11

    he is literally my overall favourite character. i love him so much im so glad you made a video on him.

    • @AlphaZeroX96
      @AlphaZeroX96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How? He's not even canon to the games.

    • @fromashesreborn.
      @fromashesreborn. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlphaZeroX96 okay? im allowed to like comic characters more than the ones that appear in game. stfu.

    • @amagicalbeing7427
      @amagicalbeing7427 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@AlphaZeroX96 dude just because something isn't from the games doesnt mean you cant like aspects of other canons

  • @HotFootBunny
    @HotFootBunny ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Finally a Video About Shard, Hes definitely My favorite metal Sonic, Big fan of his story and i hope he some how come back sense His story Could of Been pretty good if it finish imo (instead of just being killed)

  • @bigs5078
    @bigs5078 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Surprised you didn't mention post-SGW Gemerl, considering he was a dead ringer for Shard.

  • @anonbefallen4807
    @anonbefallen4807 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don't know how you do it man, you take things I've been feeling in my heart of hearts ever since I was a little kid, and put them into words I couldn't have even began to muster. Thank you for this retrospective on Shard, perhaps the single best clone of a clone in history.

  • @wakeangel2001
    @wakeangel2001 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I kid of love that Shard existed mostly because of a translation error where "Metal" got mixed with "Mecha" for a time. I choose to believe that Gemerl, the Gizoid, is kind of Shard's spiritual successor. Aside from the similar color scheme he is also a self aware and evolving robot that used to be a bad guy. I just wish that Gemerl had more of that Sonic style snark that Shard was so famous for.
    Mecha Sonic's original "death" in the volcano also felt like a reference to Hyper Metal Sonic from the Sonic the Hedgehog OVA, who also sacrificed himself to save 2 people from a lava flow, which Skrapnik Island ALSO referenced only to subvert. I kind of love after seeing 2 robotic Sonics meet a tragic end after their redemption we almost get it a THIRD time only for SONIC HIMSELF to reject it and tell that Skrapnik that his story isn't ending here. As good a scene that it was on it's own, for well informed fans of 3 decades like me it hit with WAY more power.

  • @Richforce1
    @Richforce1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So much left unsaid in that book, and as the years start to pass it'll slowly forgotten bit by bit, but at least we'll have our memories.

    • @Rabbitearsblog
      @Rabbitearsblog ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll never forget Archie Sonic...

  • @kingluno4983
    @kingluno4983 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shard is HANDS DOWN my favorite Archie Sonic character if not my favorite sonic character of all time! So glad we finally got a video on him from you!

  • @electricsoul3355
    @electricsoul3355 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember having the sonic Archie encyclopedia (and I still do) and seeing this awsome metal sonic in the book as a kid. Then one fateful day in the library, I actually found the first comic he ever appeared in (well, as 3.0 metal sonic) I had a blast reading the comic and he still remains one of my favorite sonic characters of all time to this day.

  • @Shxnon
    @Shxnon ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I was hoping you’d ever make a Shard video for Mecha Madness but it finally happened!! I’m so happy Shard finally gets the recognition he deserves

  • @NegaHumanX
    @NegaHumanX ปีที่แล้ว +32

    It seems like Shard does a better job of being a copy of Sonic with his more others focused personality. I could see Sonic acting just like him if he was forced to avoid his friends and work behind the scenes. Staying cocky and having fun, but also needing those deeper connections and reaching out to those he can.
    I like the idea of a "light mirror" as a "what if" character which can show us different sides of the mains we wouldn't normally be able to see. Like an alternate universe character but existing in the same universe and having impact on the mainline stories.

  • @galaxycamerata
    @galaxycamerata ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Something I feel is worth mentioning is that in the post-Worlds Collide Sonic comics, we saw the return of Gemerl - a different black and yellow robot with pre-established Sega ties - with a strangely familiar snarky attitude as he squares off with Metal Sonic and explicitly calls out that they're both "Ability stealer(s) with an identity crisis".
    I feel like after they were forced to reboot the universe, they were going to use Gemerl as their "mandate-friendly" stand-in for Shard when it came to potentially re-tooling any plans they had for that plot line.
    As for your points about the "canon" Metal Sonic and how he'll likely remain unchanging, I feel like more recently they've been delving into the idea of Metal Sonic reaching an existential epiphany. He's silent, violent, and subservient, but there's still a lot going on behind those red and black lenses. He isn't just programmed to follow Eggman's orders, he genuinely CARES about him. He feels an air of pride being praised, he refuses to take control of the empire, instead just manning it until he can find where the Doctor vanished to, and when he does find where Eggman went, he seems to be apologizing for not finding him sooner and failing to maintain a firm grasp on the planet in his absence. And later on, after he hears a loud explosion in the Doctor's last known direction, he shows genuine fear at the idea that Eggman could be hurt again and chooses to check on him instead of continuing to fight Sonic, only sparing a glare of contempt after Sonic mocks him for being worried.
    And most tellingly, during the Metal Virus arc, he begins to realize exactly what's been weighing him down all this time; Inadequacy. After seeing the Metal Virus just slip off his claws while it clings to Sonic, he realizes that there are fundamental differences that reinforce in his mind that he will never be Sonic despite being built to surpass him.
    And so from there, there's potential to explore his character after that realization. And if Frontiers and Eggman's own character growth between that and the IDW comics is any indication, it's possible that he could eventually see himself not just as "Metal Sonic, the strongest creation of Dr. Eggman and antithesis to Sonic", but "Metal Sonic, the eldest son of Ivo Robotnik."
    He may never become a good guy again, but he may start accepting his life for what it is and find some sense of peace in it.

  • @Jungle9825
    @Jungle9825 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would've loved it if Shard's fight with Metal served as the foundation of a Neo Metal storyline. Metal would've taken Shard's words to heart but in the worst way possible and become more dangerous than Eggman.

  • @Ghostguy693
    @Ghostguy693 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    YES!!!!!!!! I remembering discovering him as a kid and him instantly becoming my favorite comics character. I was soooooo sad that he never came back lmao, I miss him.

  • @jaredtherock5692
    @jaredtherock5692 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That Metalsonic/hidrocity joke killed me.
    Great video!!

  • @JeremyMaldonadoSTK
    @JeremyMaldonadoSTK ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for reviewing this man and bringing him to the light, he truly deserved so much better :c

  • @shadic971
    @shadic971 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I went into this thinking it would be just another goofy robot Sonic, now I'm right next to nick waiting in any possible update or mention on the character

  • @PK-starstorm1995
    @PK-starstorm1995 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Shard was one of my favorite characters. Glad to see him finally get his time in the sun ❤

  • @silversomething501
    @silversomething501 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shard has been one of my favorite characters forever! I'm so glad you made a video about him!

  • @Kleist_Polaris
    @Kleist_Polaris ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One of my faves, in a sea of metals, mechas and silver hedgehogs shard always stood out as the one who listened to sonic and defied eggman as their own bot.
    Spoilers for Evans fan story, her mecha pulled a lot of inspo and a great character buildup

  • @endrylgoes2892
    @endrylgoes2892 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I got to the sonic fandom I always liked seeing cool fanart of this character, even tho I never got the context behind him, and now it's a bit sad considering that for him... The stars will no more shine, and in the dust he will be left aside.
    Get it? because he head through StarDust SpeedWay Zone

    • @endrylgoes2892
      @endrylgoes2892 ปีที่แล้ว

      ........ Just read the text buble in 4:02

  • @BlackFlash09
    @BlackFlash09 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've been meaning to write a story where the Chaotix seek out the Chaos Rings, which would be able to repair Shard's Power Gem.

  • @WalkerSunriseChannel
    @WalkerSunriseChannel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shard post-face-turn quickly became one of the my favorite things from the Archie-verse and hoping to see more of him was one of the last things that kept me reading during the “end times” so to speak of the comic’s run. His search to find his own meaning and value to life, his Sonic-like cockiness and very prominent sense of pride in being both the original and the superior when faced with other Metal Sonics, he seemed like he had some great potential before the canon reboot apparently wiped him out of existence.

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Twas a shame he didn’t carry over to the reboot. Maybe they could’ve had him be Metal Sonic 3.0 from Rivals 2

  • @FireSonic225
    @FireSonic225 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That Hydro City joke got me, lol

  • @Cyber_Horse_Studios87
    @Cyber_Horse_Studios87 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Firstly, Amazing job on this video! Secondly, shard is an example of why I think Eggman should build more Metal Sonic’s with power gem cores. It makes it them far more powerful in the long run. Both shard and Metal Sonic 3.7 (whom I like to call “Seven”), the Metal Sonic shard faced off with demonstrated their powerful abilities thanks to their gems. It also makes me wish that Eggman would try and install a chaos emerald into a Metal Sonic. It would both give it power, AND in theory allow a Metal Sonic to control the chaos emeralds and go super. Something that only Mecha Sonic from Sonic 3 has been able to achieve.

  • @baval5
    @baval5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    37:03 this scene is a lot more interesting when you know that Shard almost got through to Metal Sonic and its only Robotniks hard coded soft reboot system that prevents Metal from ever being anything more than a "one note jerk".

  • @pestilynce
    @pestilynce ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh wow!! TWO Videos!! What a wonderful day! Thank you for putting in so much work and for putting these out!

  • @DrSheldonCrane444
    @DrSheldonCrane444 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would love to hear your thoughts about the Archie Sonic and Mega Man crossover series that took place during the infamous lawsuit and the team had to adopt a new story for the mainline Archie continuity. They’re a really under appreciated series and needs to see more light. It also sparks an interest in wondering if Sega and Capcom will collaborate again and make an official Sonic and Mega Man game. Hopefully, it will be a console game and not a stupid mobile game or app. Happy thoughts!

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Shard would actually make for an amazing movie experience. Shard has everything and more.

  • @mistersp3753
    @mistersp3753 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    9:51 I always appreciate a good Hydrossity referece. That What's in a Name episode is still one of my favorites. By the way, it's pronounced 'Matthasnocuts'.

    • @RaphielShiraha64
      @RaphielShiraha64 ปีที่แล้ว

      If i remember right it was confirmed to be hydro city not hydrossity awhile go.

  • @DTwMeteora
    @DTwMeteora ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing video!
    Shard is in my top 3 favorite Sonic characters. Is one of those special occasions where you get a unique spin on a known concept. That captivates the readers and the fans at the same. He resonated with me so much, because of his amazing design inspired by Mega Man. And his unique spin, and mix of ideas from metal sonic's appearances up until that point (I always found it so cool, that his sacrifice in issue #87 was similar to metal's sacrifice in the OVA) It's unfortunate that we never saw him again. And I do hope some of his legacy still carries on in some way in the future. I haven't caught up to IDW since the end of the metal virus, but I really loved the inclusion of gemerl, which reminded me of Shard in some ways. And now that you mentioned scrapnik island, I'm very intrigued to read that story!
    While I get much of the backlash the Archie run gets nowadays. Characters like Shard, and the many stories that the team behind the comic made once the comic had a different management. Are the reason why I always saw the immediate dissmissal of Archie as a bit close minded and in bad faith. It's not that you are not allowed to critize it and that you are obliged to like it (after all, it had a troubled history behind the scenes, and it is a tough sell for those not invested in the american canon that sparked in the 90's). But I do find that much of the distain the comic has nowadays, does diminish some of the value the readers found in it. And that they still hold on to, years after the cancellation. It was definitely a product of its time, and I really wish the great parts of the comic that did stand out to the readers like you and me, get the appreciation they deserve nowadays.
    Can't wait for you coverage of the rest of the Archie run :D

  • @Destiny_Of_Koi
    @Destiny_Of_Koi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly, Shard is one of my favorite characters in Archie. He's what I always wanted in Metal Sonic, a villain turned good after finding a purpose in life. I thought that's what they would do with him after Heroes but he's still working with Eggman. Hopefully that dream can come true someday.

  • @thestarlightalchemist7333
    @thestarlightalchemist7333 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had actually attempted to reboot Shard into an IDW-aligned character, but the crazy backstory I came up with for him ended up morphing into an actual fully fleshed out (literally) OC, Tallix the Hedgehog.

    • @ragewireloki6213
      @ragewireloki6213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know this is an old comment. But mind telling me what Talix was like?

    • @CosmicCrimson
      @CosmicCrimson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ragewireloki6213
      I second this greatly.

  • @RyuseiiTheCrimsonKing
    @RyuseiiTheCrimsonKing ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn't know anything about Shard before this video, but after listening to you he's become one of my favorite Sonic characters. His story remind me a lot of Zero from Megaman, and they both had a very similar end. Both of them dying as Heroes.

  • @bulbasaurplush
    @bulbasaurplush ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didnt know about the character but i fell i love with him thanks to this video and then got my heart broken

  • @stix7168
    @stix7168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think it would be so cool to have shard feature in a fan game or some other fan story

  • @GrayvyFellow
    @GrayvyFellow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly Shard has for me been a top 10 Sonic character in my books. To be bold for a moment, probably my favourite out of the characters we might sadly never see again. In a way how I see his story its a smart subversion of the doppelganger and a near beautiful redemption story that I WISH was fully fleshed out.

  • @EpsilonZolton
    @EpsilonZolton ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LETS GO THE SHARD VIDEO!
    my favorite sonic character
    Ok if IDW ever decides to go the direction of Shard however unintentionally i think they already have some setup for him. What im talking about is in the 2020 Annual short Reflections we see Metal try and use the metal virus on themself in an attempt to see if they are the real sonic but they hesitate to do so. Also just anytime i see IDW Metal try and resist programing only to fall back onto it for example in issue 52 Sonic actually teases Metal about their programing mid fight as protecting Eggman is a higher priority then killing Sonic and Metal has to fly off to check up on Eggman.
    I dont think it will ever happen but i really want Shard back sadly i think Belle is taking up the slot for good team robot along side Gemerl Sporting the black and gold color scheme. Also with scrapnik Mecha taking up the robotic redemtion arc like you mentioned maybe we could get a Shard like character out of them but idk.

  • @triledink
    @triledink ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man. I hope in the future if there ever gonna be a animated series based on the comics in the future that someone remembers Shard. He really is a unique character, I hate the though of him getting forgotten to time. His story deserves to be told to more people.

  • @MothFable
    @MothFable 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    15:28 the TH-camr lowart has a good video (8 hours long but it has somewhat shorter parts) that goes over the entirety of Archie currently up until the very end of Archie sonic. I grew up reading scattered bits of the comic and it helped immensely. Plus it’s a fun video.

  • @whichcache2517
    @whichcache2517 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would argue that there’s a good reason for why he looks the way he does in his 3rd appearance. As he stated, he repaired himself, and thus played a significant part in why he looks so different from his other appearances. It showcases how even though he wants to defeat Sonic as part of his core programming, he still had the autonomy to choose, which is further illustrated when he’s touched by Tails’ defense of Sonic and decides to sacrifice himself.
    Shard, in essence, is a Metal Sonic that breaks the mold that he was given, which is illustrated by all his off-model designs from what Metal Sonic traditionally looks like. Hence why he’s ultimately defeated by a Metal Sonic who stuck with his mold (and is the most faithful in terms of design to Metal Sonic), but surpassed his original in terms of ability.

  • @tsw9918
    @tsw9918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I rmr reading the final Shard fight, was heartbreaking to see him go.
    Feel like there were lots of character dynamics that were left unexplored with him. Forever gutted that Shard/Sonic's dynamic was never flushed out further and definitely upset that Nicole/Shard wasn't explored either, felt like they had great chemistry

  • @PharaohOfTheDamned
    @PharaohOfTheDamned ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the two metallic sonics flying away gave me MAJOR DBZ vibes

  • @FleshWeaver
    @FleshWeaver ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see a well done sonic hero's comic arc were they use the scrapyard mecha sonic, spike, and the old Cyclops visor metal Sonic as an additional team of three. Maybe the scrap yard one was able to use some energy from an emerald or something like he did on the knuckle side of Sonic 3 to try and send energy into Spike's damaged power core to jump start it. And they wind up sort of acting as a voice for all the turned good robots that they don't want whatever cruel Utopia metal Sonic is trying to bring them. Also the idea of the Cyclops visor Sonic dragging Spike behind him to show it to the scrap yard mecha sonic is funny.

  • @benogle4951
    @benogle4951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They have to bring him back eventually, I don't know how but I need to see him back. Excellent video about an awesome robot

  • @hoseinbmr3449
    @hoseinbmr3449 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally a great video covering ma boi Shard 👍
    i love his design and i love how much depth his character has
    not only he is my favorite Archie character , he is also my second favorite character of the hole franchise ( only second to Tails )
    i guess this is where i would say i wish he came back BUT NO because his death is actually one of my reasons of loving him, he was born as a villain but died as a hero
    what i wish for is if only he didnt die as soon as he did, there was a lot of interactions i wanted for him to do , i wanted him to have more friendly rivalry with sonic to see this enemies become friends, its a shame we never saw Shard interacting with Shadow because in that continuity Shadow really wants metal sonic to be more than just a tool and Shard is exactly what he wanted, i really wanted him to be introduced to the rest of the freedom fighters and have a few missions with them to show them that he has really changed and actually become a friend of them so that when he dies it would hit harder.
    and also shardXnicole is my favorite sonic ship of all time, i mean come on 2 artificial beings slowly learn the meaning of life in their own way and then they would learn the meaning of love together? i love it.
    there are more than a few sonic moments that made me sad but sonic universe issue 50 was the only one that literally made me cry and because of that it is my favorite sonic comic of all time
    RIP Shard the MetalSonic 😢

  • @Dustfired
    @Dustfired 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny as it is. Spark the Electric Jester explores the idea of a metal counterpart turning good. Fark being a robot copy of Spark meant to replace him.
    The series itself is inspired by Sonic which the developer even made fan games for.

  • @DaMemeManDan
    @DaMemeManDan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hell yes! Two videos within HOURS of each other!

  • @Greenscout69
    @Greenscout69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now that I know he exists, he’s hella cool.

  • @Dot.jfluffybunnies
    @Dot.jfluffybunnies ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES FINALLY YOU MADE A VIDEO OUT OF HIM!!!

  • @MrJapanUnderground
    @MrJapanUnderground ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when the black and yellow Shard first showed up. I was addicted to more of that character. But, when his end came, I was devastated.

  • @lianaverwood9810
    @lianaverwood9810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing about *MetalSonic's Comic appearance* is that it's _Archie Comics' take_ on *the 'Sonic the Hedgehog' Animated Movie,* where Metal Sonic (or _Hyper Metal Sonic,_ as the Dubbed version of it refers to him as) is programmed to believe that he's *the Real Sonic the Hedgehog* - and ends with it *getting a Magma Burial* helping Tails escape the floe, _just like Archie MetalSonic!_
    Both were *all but completely Superior Mechanical Doppelgangers of Sonic,* and both managed to _override their Core Programming_ to become Heroes, even *if only for a few minutes...*

  • @ralonnetaph6450
    @ralonnetaph6450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    idk much about this character, but 2 minutes in and hearing that his canon arm is 100% shooting Megaman shennangans at people is perfection, because he also has the color scheming of a Megaman character called Bass, who was a mirror to Megaman based on surpassing him in the same style but then also kinda ditched Wily and started doing his own anti-hero thing. He's basically what came before Zero but after Protoman. And considering this version of Sonic has also had full on crossovers with Megman I think, it stands to reason that the color scheme was 100% meant to elicit that feeling of Bass.

  • @AfroRyan
    @AfroRyan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A simple way to kind of "reboot" the character would be to have Tails build his own robot Sonic. He is a mechanical genius after all, and Sonic is his hero, so it seems in-character. I'd personally set him up with a shard of something more "canon," like the master emerald or phantom ruby or something. The phantom ruby's multi-dimensional powers would be a good excuse to have him have Shard's personality, but due to the dimensional crossover, he could just forget his past as his programming tries to "match" the new dimension. I'd go so far as to have his first word be "amazing" or something similar to finish his Nicole sentence, but then have him snap out of it and be confused as his memory is rewritten to match the current dimension. That avoids copyright issues but is enough to be an obvious nod to fans. I know the real sticking point for Shard was supposedly the "original rock do no steal" power gem, so replacing it with a shard of the phantom ruby would probably be fine...anyway, I miss him.

  • @klortikterra4423
    @klortikterra4423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    shard was a master piece. i really wish he was at least MENTIONED by sega.

  • @michaelolls1086
    @michaelolls1086 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently finished reading the entire archie sonic archive, and I really liked Shard. I wish they did more with him

  • @broomthegodofdestruction561
    @broomthegodofdestruction561 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There’s a line I read once that I believe needs to be said, “metal sonic may be a reflection of sonic, but shard is a reflection of him.”

  • @user-fh7di8st6l
    @user-fh7di8st6l ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking at this, it seems that gemerl accidentally took over the concept of Badnik, who was originally Eggman's underling but was converted into a good man. Metal Sonic is the enemy of Sonic's image of nature, but I like the concept of shard because it's quite cool.

  • @avonzapper
    @avonzapper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't even understand how I managed to follow that considering I know next to nothing about archie sonic, but in any case this was really cool to learn about and I do hope he makes a return like you said he could!

  • @shadowopsairman1583
    @shadowopsairman1583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IDW really needs to bring back the Pre Super Genesis Wave Timeline and Shard needs to be revived.
    Sonic the Hedgehog Archie Comic is the best

  • @SwampKryakwa
    @SwampKryakwa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The hydrocity joke killed me

  • @Sn0c
    @Sn0c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every day we get closer to Archie Sonic Speed Reading

  • @Luciefurrrr
    @Luciefurrrr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s funny is I was looking up to see if you had a video on shard just an hour ago, oml

  • @somethingoriginal7412
    @somethingoriginal7412 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd actually love to see more of him. If they would bring him back...

  • @crjonch8044
    @crjonch8044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that idw Mecha Sonic follows the same path that the Archie Mecha Sonic (might as well use his original name here) did is really heartwarming