In Archie, two different types of Brass Knuckles do exist. The first kind were mass-produced robotic soldiers who fought against the Freedom Fighters of the Galaxy (a pastiche of Marvel's original Guardians of the Galaxy) in an alternate post-apocalyptic Mobius in issue 103. The second kind was more or less a brass recolor of Metal Knuckles with brass knuckles instead of spikes that only showed up in an Off Panel strip from issue 243. Edit: didn't watch the video all the way through when I said this, didn't realize the Off Panel one was acknowledged at the end.
Eric the Echidna mentioned. I've made a design for Eric way back when. I honestly thought that he would have been android like the many different Shadows.
That would check out: Of the few Shadow Android models, one was just low-poly, one could actually pass as organic (But had yellow markings), and the Heroes ones were visually flawless copies. A Knuckles Android being a passing, if off-color, copy would make sense.
Fun fact: In fleetway, Chaos is a mutated Drakon instead of a mutant chao. Seeing the alien nature of chaos's ancestors, it almost retroactively makes the Drakons the comic equivalent of Sonic Frontiers's Ancients
@@conradojavier7547 Theres definately a case to be made for them basing both the modern chaotix and the Metarex(japanese name would probably be more accurately translated as Metalex, but the accidental dinosaur pun was neat foreshadowing) on things from StC. Despite having less oversight from Sega, StC DID get closer to the games in terms of feel, probably because, as it was also a sega game review magazine, there were people in the building who could help with capturing that game feeling.
8:33 Well now I wanna see a silly comic of Metal Sonic not knowing how to work a door. Maybe his quills kept bonking off of doorways during the alpha stages?
Your original Metal Knuckles video was so cool and convincing of your love for the red robot that I made a plasticine figure of him not too long after watching (which was like 2 months ago). He's still there with me, sitting on my desk.
I know it’s a detail that only makes sense recently, but by the looks of things, Grimer knew his place? He knew to not kill Sonic. Unlike even Starline.
It's really cool to see Mecha Knuckles get some love. I never been the biggest fan of him but I've always kind of liked his design it was erie and kind of unsettling to me when he shows his true form. It kind of reminded me a lot of something like the Terminator. I had played Sonic 2 well before Advanced so I was already pretty familiar with Mecha Sonic but he never creeped me out the same way Mecha Knuckles did. Maybe it's idea of a robot taking your form and looking nearly identical to you but there's certain features that just look off that kind of make it unsettling. That stuff has always creeped me out as a kid.
I think it would be nice if in one of these videos you just talked about the playable depictions of Metal Sonic, since I find him so interesting when it comes to how it expands his already unique move set from sonic
Always nice to hear Elson mentioned I met him last year at Sonic the Comic Con, and he was lovely Complemented my art, and given that he's the reason I even started drawing in the first place, that was an incredible experience
@@BlueMageDaisen Yeah, i got the shirt too! it was so cool, as well as a cool shopping bag and an awesome poster! Did you see the person cosplaying as Tekno the Canary?
@@BlueMageDaisen Which comic was that? I remember some old issues of StC being sold and i got the most recent fan-made StC issue. I remember some funko pops which i ended up not buying, i don't remember anyone dressed as Fabian though... have you got the poster? With the five different StC Sonics and Ristar at the top?
I would LOVE to see you drawings of Metal Knuckles MK. 2 and/or even your interpretation of Metal Knuckles' design according to the Sonic R models & designs! Also, great video! It's always a treat hearing you fanboy over Sonic Robots. :) (Love that you mentioned the "Brass Knuckles" joke from that Archie One-Off Panel) XD
Hell yeah! Love seeing the metal knux love! Crazy how much we got of him recently with the concept art and him appearing in Sonic superstars. As for the other robot knuckles I’m not a big fan on a lot of them design wise except for metalix unironically but just his head if I’m being honest always thought it looked dope.
Hey Game Apologist, I just edited the Sonic Wiki Page on Eric the Echidna to say that he is a clone of Sonic and not a robot, because this bit of evidence, which is Eric licking his lips, implies he is an organic lifeform. Plus, those Eric the Echidna books that are completely un-related are so cute!
SEGA could we do like a full on Metal Knuckles game. Metal Knuckles is one of my favorite metal versions. The Metal Knuckles has definitely improved over the years. Great video Game Apologist!
So... I got smashed on vodka near the end of the video and the sudden Brass Knuckles part with a Golden Knuckles robot with the words "Thug life" on its arms made me think I finally lost it, hahaha!
So, Archie was getting their idea from marvel, Fleetway was getting their idea from doctor who and both of them were doing that while trying to elaborate on the ideas sega got from dragon ball. Is that right?
8:46 I figure you won't be covering the official-unofficial continuation StC Online, so let me pitch in to say that those knuckles metalix eventually get picked up by Knuckles himself and modified into angel island defenders, at the small cost of getting dangerously close to triggering porkers PTSD for metallic. Its a pretty late plotpoint, doesn't really come up until after the big finale to the comics primary plotline which wrapped up shortly before IDW started, but we got there eventually.
I know this is not a canon version, but the content creator Mashed, also have their own mecha Knuckles in a story called "There's something about Knuckles"
17:25 I'm just stuck on wtf is going on with that version of Metal Knuckles, like I remember seeing it but idk what it's called. Although the thing about a machine/plant hybrid mutant thing is pretty intriguing
WAIT A DAMN MINUTE so you’re telling me there’s the Metallix and there’s a army of Metal Sonic’s who were made by Eggman’s assistant. ARE THE SONIC MOVIES REFENCING THIS?!?!?
Robotnik probably would've been mad at Grimer for killing Sonic. I don't think his ego would allow someone else the pleasure, especially his own lackeys.
My version of mecha knuckles for sonic advance ,is that he is colored white and red (which is a reference to wechidna) he has the same body shape as mecha sonic mark 2 but he’s legs are more armored and he has no wheels on his heels and he’s dreads are thrusters which give him the ability to glide through air.
My favorite robotic knuckles is actually metalx knuckles I just have a soft spot for the metalx tho and that's probably all of the reasons why I like it so much
Hm, how very interesting, it’s nice how this one has gotten more attention, i hope it gets some more significant Roles too at some point. Also, when could we expect you to cover Hyper Mecha Sonic/Metalix from SMBZ?
I gotta say. The original Metal Knuckles in that concept art has some Predator vibes. Something about the mechanized dreads reminds me of those movies. Which, I wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional. The Japanese LOVE the Alien and Predator movies. (Like how the late Toriyama basically made 3rd form Frieza a knockoff Xenomorph.)
Sega kind of missed out on a pun by not calling one of the metal knucks brass knuckles
Damn.
This is actually a fire name for a metal knux.
In Archie, two different types of Brass Knuckles do exist. The first kind were mass-produced robotic soldiers who fought against the Freedom Fighters of the Galaxy (a pastiche of Marvel's original Guardians of the Galaxy) in an alternate post-apocalyptic Mobius in issue 103. The second kind was more or less a brass recolor of Metal Knuckles with brass knuckles instead of spikes that only showed up in an Off Panel strip from issue 243.
Edit: didn't watch the video all the way through when I said this, didn't realize the Off Panel one was acknowledged at the end.
man this is the 2nd time I see a comment like this for a metal knuckle to be brass knuckles
OOOOOOOOOOH YES
I mean, never say never
The fact that Brass Knux has Brass Knux is the best part.
Eric the Echidna mentioned. I've made a design for Eric way back when. I honestly thought that he would have been android like the many different Shadows.
If you got it around tag me on Twitter I’d love to see it!
That would check out: Of the few Shadow Android models, one was just low-poly, one could actually pass as organic (But had yellow markings), and the Heroes ones were visually flawless copies. A Knuckles Android being a passing, if off-color, copy would make sense.
@@GameApologistyou're mentally braindead for hating Legos Legos are fun and creative
Fun fact: In fleetway, Chaos is a mutated Drakon instead of a mutant chao. Seeing the alien nature of chaos's ancestors, it almost retroactively makes the Drakons the comic equivalent of Sonic Frontiers's Ancients
It seems like Sonic Team like the British's Take on Sonic more than the U.S.
@@conradojavier7547 Theres definately a case to be made for them basing both the modern chaotix and the Metarex(japanese name would probably be more accurately translated as Metalex, but the accidental dinosaur pun was neat foreshadowing) on things from StC. Despite having less oversight from Sega, StC DID get closer to the games in terms of feel, probably because, as it was also a sega game review magazine, there were people in the building who could help with capturing that game feeling.
Let me guess it’s also based on something from fucking doctor who
@@connorprince8551 not intentionally, most of the doctor who influences were accidental in StC.
@@Fanatic_Foremem Were they? I know the Brotherhood of Metallix, at the very least, was very deliberately based on the Daleks.
Metal Knuckles making a comeback recently has been really fun to see. Mecha Sonic and Mecha Knuckles returning in Scrapnik was awesome too
THERES MOAR METAL KNUCKLES?!!!?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
"You know what they say...the more, the merrier!"
HELL YEAH ITS ALWAYS A GOOD DAY WHEN NICK UPLOADS!
HELL YEAH ALWAYS A GOOD DAY WHEN YOU COMPLIMENT
8:33 Well now I wanna see a silly comic of Metal Sonic not knowing how to work a door. Maybe his quills kept bonking off of doorways during the alpha stages?
Not only do you call "Sonic and the 4th dimension" boring, but you also diss Dr. Who?
To quote Movie Knuckles:
"DISHONOURABLE."
*Dishonor
To be fair, it's been mid for awhile and that's coming from a British Person.
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho I'm British. We spell it with a "U."
Your original Metal Knuckles video was so cool and convincing of your love for the red robot that I made a plasticine figure of him not too long after watching (which was like 2 months ago). He's still there with me, sitting on my desk.
I know it’s a detail that only makes sense recently, but by the looks of things, Grimer knew his place? He knew to not kill Sonic. Unlike even Starline.
It's really cool to see Mecha Knuckles get some love. I never been the biggest fan of him but I've always kind of liked his design it was erie and kind of unsettling to me when he shows his true form. It kind of reminded me a lot of something like the Terminator.
I had played Sonic 2 well before Advanced so I was already pretty familiar with Mecha Sonic but he never creeped me out the same way Mecha Knuckles did.
Maybe it's idea of a robot taking your form and looking nearly identical to you but there's certain features that just look off that kind of make it unsettling. That stuff has always creeped me out as a kid.
Brass Knuckles is the Knuckles robot of time.
(But in all seriousness that was such a fun looking design)
I hope you are feeling better now.
Getting there! Thank you!
Good to hear. Just focus on your health. We would rather have you healthy than more videos.
@@GameApologist don't stress yourself and take as much time as you possibly need.❤💛🖤
SONIC IN THE FOURTH DIMENSION MENTION, LET'S GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
...*"BORING... MESS?!"* HOW. DARE.
I'd like to know more about that manga.
metal knuckles got a funko pop, we won
Big fan of Metal Knuckles! Hopefully jakks makes a figure of him soon
Metal knuckles the metallic fella who don't panic
I think it would be nice if in one of these videos you just talked about the playable depictions of Metal Sonic, since I find him so interesting when it comes to how it expands his already unique move set from sonic
I'm glad Metal Knux is getting featured a lot again
Ikr! Metal Knuckles has such a kickass design!
4:23 bruh that was my concept for zonic if he had a false disguise, but he’s shoes are orange, he’s eyes are a bit red and he has slightly yellow skin
Another great video by the goofy green man
Thank you kindly
You don’t like legos?!?
H E R E S E Y
Always nice to hear Elson mentioned
I met him last year at Sonic the Comic Con, and he was lovely
Complemented my art, and given that he's the reason I even started drawing in the first place, that was an incredible experience
Was that at Sonic the Comic Con 2023? I also went there, it was awesome!
@@RubenTurnell In York? Yes it was!
I'm wearing the tshirt from there right now, yellow with all the artist's Sonics
@@BlueMageDaisen Yeah, i got the shirt too! it was so cool, as well as a cool shopping bag and an awesome poster! Did you see the person cosplaying as Tekno the Canary?
@@RubenTurnell I did! I have a photo of them!
There was a Fabian Vain too!
Did you see my friend Morg's fan comic he was selling?
@@BlueMageDaisen Which comic was that? I remember some old issues of StC being sold and i got the most recent fan-made StC issue. I remember some funko pops which i ended up not buying, i don't remember anyone dressed as Fabian though... have you got the poster? With the five different StC Sonics and Ristar at the top?
On behalf of the U.K., I sincerely apologise that we’ve created Doctor Who. The rest of the world didn’t deserve to suffer the consequences.
You are singlehandedly responsible for my intense doctor who hyperfixation that has haunted me since childhood
@@davebob4973 Sorry/you’re welcome
If it weren’t for doctor who I would have quit my iron man fixation
I would LOVE to see you drawings of Metal Knuckles MK. 2 and/or even your interpretation of Metal Knuckles' design according to the Sonic R models & designs!
Also, great video! It's always a treat hearing you fanboy over Sonic Robots. :)
(Love that you mentioned the "Brass Knuckles" joke from that Archie One-Off Panel) XD
Hell yeah! Love seeing the metal knux love! Crazy how much we got of him recently with the concept art and him appearing in Sonic superstars. As for the other robot knuckles I’m not a big fan on a lot of them design wise except for metalix unironically but just his head if I’m being honest always thought it looked dope.
Just listening to you ramble about your favorite robot is great! And learning some new stuff as well!
A video right when I wake up, nice.
Gotta love brand new content from Nick.
12:27
So Ian looked at these skins, and decided.
“Y’know what? Im gonna make a zombie apocalypse arc out of these skins.”
You dont like legos? You have bad tastes
I thought I was subscribed after all these years..... Keep up the good work.
Let’s goooo! New March Mecha Madness outside of March.
Hey Game Apologist, I just edited the Sonic Wiki Page on Eric the Echidna to say that he is a clone of Sonic and not a robot, because this bit of evidence, which is Eric licking his lips, implies he is an organic lifeform. Plus, those Eric the Echidna books that are completely un-related are so cute!
1:04 knuckles making fortnite dance
Yay one of my favorite robots
"I'm still surprised (a porcupine)'s not a thing outside of Archie"
**sad atari porcupine noises**
I see a metal knuckles video, I click it's that simple.
I have wanted a Knuckles Metallix boss battle or a figure. Since it was my introduction to Knuckles robots.
The metal Knuckles I grew up with was the Fleetway model aka Metallix model Knuckles.
12:29 thank you.
3:46 fun fact sed book was the first time we heard of chaos control
I feel the same way with the Lego set. I only built it just because I wanted to see it.
I have too many sets that I don’t build
SEGA could we do like a full on Metal Knuckles game. Metal Knuckles is one of my favorite metal versions. The Metal Knuckles has definitely improved over the years. Great video Game Apologist!
Knuckles chaotix 2 & metal knuckles
3:46 HOW. DARE. YOU!
I loved these books, i have all 4 lol
Sonic in the 4th dimension is the best one
Take no notice of the uncultured Yank.
So... I got smashed on vodka near the end of the video and the sudden Brass Knuckles part with a Golden Knuckles robot with the words "Thug life" on its arms made me think I finally lost it, hahaha!
So, Archie was getting their idea from marvel, Fleetway was getting their idea from doctor who and both of them were doing that while trying to elaborate on the ideas sega got from dragon ball.
Is that right?
8:46 I figure you won't be covering the official-unofficial continuation StC Online, so let me pitch in to say that those knuckles metalix eventually get picked up by Knuckles himself and modified into angel island defenders, at the small cost of getting dangerously close to triggering porkers PTSD for metallic. Its a pretty late plotpoint, doesn't really come up until after the big finale to the comics primary plotline which wrapped up shortly before IDW started, but we got there eventually.
Yo game apologist have you seen the new funko pop metal knuckles?
6:41 that even more : Ronan The Accusator of the Kree
"Babe, get the popcorn, Nick is Aoologizing to the Games again!"
i loved mecha madness as a kid. it was one of the only sonic comics i had but conceptually it was just awesome
I know this is not a canon version, but the content creator Mashed, also have their own mecha Knuckles in a story called "There's something about Knuckles"
17:25 I'm just stuck on wtf is going on with that version of Metal Knuckles, like I remember seeing it but idk what it's called. Although the thing about a machine/plant hybrid mutant thing is pretty intriguing
Nick: Doctor Who has ruined that entire country.
Me: And the writers have ruined Doctor Who.
Fun fact: I recently remembered that I own Scrapnik Island...
And it was after watching your videos, too...
9:39 Yes. But this Metallix was built with Alien technology.
The metal knuckles from Sonic Advance was a crazy boss fight....those missiles 💀
WAIT A DAMN MINUTE
so you’re telling me there’s the Metallix and there’s a army of Metal Sonic’s who were made by Eggman’s assistant.
ARE THE SONIC MOVIES REFENCING THIS?!?!?
Since its android april, can we get a shadow android video 🙏
maaaaaaaaaaaybe...
Get a load of this! Brass Knuckles the Mech-idna!
12:26 Honestly, Fake Metal Tails (The Speed Sim Names For Them) Is My Favourite Robot In Sonic (Even If It's Just A Skin)
Robotnik probably would've been mad at Grimer for killing Sonic. I don't think his ego would allow someone else the pleasure, especially his own lackeys.
Finally ur back! Also when is the next chapter of the idw sonic coming
Not for a while, the comic has been on hiatus
Honestly had no clue the metal virus was based off those skins, I guess that's just me not putting two and two together
You forgot the Mecha-Elay from Devil Artemis’ Legion of Memes
It would be nice if the product advertisements were done at the end of the video before the credits
03:23 fun fact: in the French version of Sonic X Knuckles calles himself a Porky-pines
I love to metal knuckles to the point i got a mod where you fight metal knuckles in a knuckles run in 3 air
I don't see the link in the description you mentioned
Just the content my autistic self would go crazy over as a kid, thanks Game Apologist!
Would be interesting to see Eggman try making clones.
Perfect timing! Thanks GA!
You're very welcome!
My version of mecha knuckles for sonic advance ,is that he is colored white and red (which is a reference to wechidna) he has the same body shape as mecha sonic mark 2 but he’s legs are more armored and he has no wheels on his heels and he’s dreads are thrusters which give him the ability to glide through air.
It's okay, Nick. I'll enjoy Legos for both of us.
GA your the best perfect timing You are Amazing and incredible
20:53 What more a fan could ask for?
*Thinking* An HD remake of Sonic R?
There might be a remake of sonic R. There is a remake of sonic drift 2.
That thumbnail art is insane
This really takes me back to 4th grade when R debuted. Memories...🥹
he also appears in miha sonic final version stage 8 sky sanctuary
a metal knuckles video on my b-day lets gooooo
Happy birthday!!
@@GameApologist thank you so much
We need more Metal V Metal fights, like Shard vs Metal Sonic in Archie, or Gemeral vs Metal in IDW. PLEASE
I only knew about metal knuckles, NOT metal knuckles
I want a metal knux based off of ova knux ( the rim of his hat could be a buzz saw)
Gonna be honest never seen or heard of a metal knuckles in my entire life
My favorite robotic knuckles is actually metalx knuckles I just have a soft spot for the metalx tho and that's probably all of the reasons why I like it so much
He really did get some of y'all with brass knuckles🤣
Guilty, my favorite Sonic game was Sonic R 😅
Sonic in fourth dimension. I owned that as a kid. Took to school. Someone stole it from my bag so I never got to read it.
Nick I need to know if you ever got around to that Mecha Knuckles Mk. II drawing
Hm, how very interesting, it’s nice how this one has gotten more attention, i hope it gets some more significant Roles too at some point.
Also, when could we expect you to cover Hyper Mecha Sonic/Metalix from SMBZ?
1:15
The guy on the right looks like Furnace from starved
I've got a ton of metal knuckles designs in 3D if you are interested.
oh yes everyone's favorite Sonic character...
4:22 Eric...
Now since Metal Knuckles is.. presumably finally back
*..Give Tails Doll some love, Sega. You cowards*
Amazing Video!
18:37
Which is looks closer to R’s model and Archie Knuckles.
I gotta say. The original Metal Knuckles in that concept art has some Predator vibes.
Something about the mechanized dreads reminds me of those movies.
Which, I wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional. The Japanese LOVE the Alien and Predator movies. (Like how the late Toriyama basically made 3rd form Frieza a knockoff Xenomorph.)
Reminder that Sonic R was also on PC.