Good job my man. I see the tinkering begins!!! Lol. I also drilled my air box cover, like Swiss Cheese on all sides but the back…… and did the following mods you just did, built a pipe for it, and the T converter… That got me 71.7km. After that I jetted it up one size, and it really woke it up!!! You could feel it.. combined with a new 9 tooth front sprocket, which now lifts the front wheel with ease my New speed on my phone gps 77.6 kmh. New Brunswick Canada God bless!!
That's Awesome! Sounds like you're going to be the Black66 of Canada here shortly. I'll have to try that 9 tooth when I put the TC on. So far everyone who's done it says it's been a big improvement. I got a 60 tooth rear sprocket which I plan to put on the bike. That may hurt Top End but should make for loads of grunt which is what I need in my situation.
First, I wouldn't do anything you did in this video. The long known basic setup for a Coleman 200 is a stage 1 kit, torque converter and a 60 tooth sprocket. At that point you have a decent rider on or off road. The thing about the Coleman's is the fat 19" tires and 10:1 gearing is a dead giveaway for a 15 MPH trail bike. But just about everyone gets one and puts it on the road. Of course they are not happy with banging on and off the governor at 20 mph. The ONLY thing wrong with the Hisun 196 is the 16mm PTO. This presents a challenge and options that need decisions when wanting to install a torque converter. Otherwise it's a good quality 196 that can be built for more power with every part available to do it. Many have ruined these engines by doing what you did in this video. Except that they got 30-31 MPH at higher RPM than you got here.
Yeah. We did the "Free Upgrades" that required no financial output and takes about 20 minutes. THAT is what most beginners do. THEN they hop online and start ordering all the go-fast goodies. Just like we're gonna do. And 25mph after this upgrade is expected as I'm double the weight of the average rider so to reach 25mph at all was shooting for the stars on my part. Lots of decisions to make and after that...parts to order. It will be fun to see what direction we go in with this little brute. Thank you for watching and sharing your insights and keep coming back. We'll do our best to either make the coolest bike you'd ever want to ride or torque you off to the point you'll develop a permanent left-eye tick. LOL!
@@Buses2Bikes Yeah sorry. I forgot about the weight thing. A good option for those of us 180 and larger is to start with a bigger engine. The Wildcat 223 and Pred 224 are the first ones that come to mind. Earlier this year I did a mild build on a 224 and was a bit surprised at the power. The Wildcat is now on sale for under $200 and is probably the most powerful stock small block engine you can buy. A guy I know weighs 230 and runs a stage 1 Wildcat with a torque converter and 60 tooth and gets high 40's MPH top speed. Very impressive.
@@Deucealive75 There are 3 engines we're looking at as a possible replacement. Now I'll add the Wildcat to the list and see what makes sense. Then we'll end up doing the exact OPPOSITE because that's how we roll all up in here.
@@ernestgibson8950 I think I got that one already. Just D/L'd it a week or two ago. Just haven't been able to do anything with the Bikes or the Bus due to Holiday's and work. I look forward to tryin it out once I get back to upgrading the bike. Thanks for the suggestion.
Do not remove the throttle stop screw! You should take the motor down and remove that gov gear completely. You will get to re torque all the screws and check the valve clearance and crank and other goodies. Removing the govornor is how my dad and the other guys learned how the engine worked. I highly suggest it for the young kids. You will need to make your own throttle linkage as well of you remove the gov.
That is all in the works. I planned to have it all done by now and videos of it all posted but "life" keeps getting in the way. But the work will get done and you guys will be able to see me do it. Hopefully before we all die of old age.
Good job my man. I see the tinkering begins!!! Lol.
I also drilled my air box cover, like Swiss Cheese on all sides but the back…… and did the following
mods you just did, built a pipe for it, and the T converter…
That got me 71.7km.
After that I jetted it up one size, and it really woke it up!!! You could feel it.. combined with a new 9 tooth front sprocket, which now lifts the front wheel with ease my New speed on my phone gps 77.6 kmh.
New Brunswick Canada
God bless!!
That's Awesome! Sounds like you're going to be the Black66 of Canada here shortly. I'll have to try that 9 tooth when I put the TC on. So far everyone who's done it says it's been a big improvement. I got a 60 tooth rear sprocket which I plan to put on the bike. That may hurt Top End but should make for loads of grunt which is what I need in my situation.
Nice!..I got one of these coming in the mail in like a week hopefully.
You are gonna love it.
Perfect
Thanky thanky. Sorry for the late reply. YT wasn't notifying me that people were leaving comments. I had to find you by accident.
First, I wouldn't do anything you did in this video. The long known basic setup for a Coleman 200 is a stage 1 kit, torque converter and a 60 tooth sprocket. At that point you have a decent rider on or off road.
The thing about the Coleman's is the fat 19" tires and 10:1 gearing is a dead giveaway for a 15 MPH trail bike. But just about everyone gets one and puts it on the road. Of course they are not happy with banging on and off the governor at 20 mph.
The ONLY thing wrong with the Hisun 196 is the 16mm PTO. This presents a challenge and options that need decisions when wanting to install a torque converter. Otherwise it's a good quality 196 that can be built for more power with every part available to do it. Many have ruined these engines by doing what you did in this video. Except that they got 30-31 MPH at higher RPM than you got here.
Yeah. We did the "Free Upgrades" that required no financial output and takes about 20 minutes. THAT is what most beginners do. THEN they hop online and start ordering all the go-fast goodies. Just like we're gonna do. And 25mph after this upgrade is expected as I'm double the weight of the average rider so to reach 25mph at all was shooting for the stars on my part. Lots of decisions to make and after that...parts to order. It will be fun to see what direction we go in with this little brute. Thank you for watching and sharing your insights and keep coming back. We'll do our best to either make the coolest bike you'd ever want to ride or torque you off to the point you'll develop a permanent left-eye tick. LOL!
@@Buses2Bikes Yeah sorry. I forgot about the weight thing.
A good option for those of us 180 and larger is to start with a bigger engine. The Wildcat 223 and Pred 224 are the first ones that come to mind. Earlier this year I did a mild build on a 224 and was a bit surprised at the power. The Wildcat is now on sale for under $200 and is probably the most powerful stock small block engine you can buy. A guy I know weighs 230 and runs a stage 1 Wildcat with a torque converter and 60 tooth and gets high 40's MPH top speed. Very impressive.
@@Deucealive75 There are 3 engines we're looking at as a possible replacement. Now I'll add the Wildcat to the list and see what makes sense. Then we'll end up doing the exact OPPOSITE because that's how we roll all up in here.
Could have cut the stop screw with a Dremel tool…
I left it on my Bus about 45 miles away. Had to go "Old School" on it.
You can use can use digi hud on phone its free app
Speed ometer
@@ernestgibson8950 I think I got that one already. Just D/L'd it a week or two ago. Just haven't been able to do anything with the Bikes or the Bus due to Holiday's and work. I look forward to tryin it out once I get back to upgrading the bike. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@Buses2Bikes hud hd
Do not remove the throttle stop screw! You should take the motor down and remove that gov gear completely. You will get to re torque all the screws and check the valve clearance and crank and other goodies. Removing the govornor is how my dad and the other guys learned how the engine worked. I highly suggest it for the young kids. You will need to make your own throttle linkage as well of you remove the gov.
That is all in the works. I planned to have it all done by now and videos of it all posted but "life" keeps getting in the way. But the work will get done and you guys will be able to see me do it. Hopefully before we all die of old age.