Give your Mac a touch screen! - espresso 17 Pro

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  • Thanks to espresso for sponsoring this video! Use code Circuit10 to get 10% off your order at: bit.ly/Circuit10
    (Coupon excludes 13 non-touch, starter bundle, and refurbished units)
    We all know that Plouffe loves gaming monitors, but what about portable monitors? While it may not be an AW3423DW, the espresso 17 pro has some neat tricks up its sleeve, like touch input on Mac computers and a 4K resolution. Find out if this should be your next portable monitor.
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    CHAPTERS
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    0:00 Unboxing
    2:40 Stand pro demonstration
    5:00 Does it fit in the LTTStore backpack?
    5:30 How much does it weigh?
    6:27 Turning on the espresso 17 Pro
    7:20 LABs data
    8:05 Speaker test
    8:30 Testing out Flow and Jot
    9:59 Maria joins the party!
    12:42 Conclusion
    13:56 Outro
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  • @jivewig
    @jivewig หลายเดือนก่อน +651

    12:59 “..portable screen that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg”
    Brotha, that thing’s more expensive than your AW3423DW oled monitor 💀

    • @jaiden051
      @jaiden051 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      "Hey i'm Plouffe and I own a AW3423DW"

    • @NightFoxZero
      @NightFoxZero หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol well you can't draw on the Alienware monitor

    • @MrDiarukia
      @MrDiarukia หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well the Wacom Cintiq Pro 17 costs 2700€.

    • @TetraSky
      @TetraSky หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@MrDiarukia Yeah, seriously, it's made to compete with the Cintiq, not the iPad. It works on WINDOWS as well. They shouldn't have pushed the touchscreen for mac narrative.

  • @MsPlone
    @MsPlone หลายเดือนก่อน +690

    I am quite disappointed that Maria was visibly not impressed and she even mentioned that it would be better to just have an iPad instead of the computer+display Kombo (at 11:26) and my man clearly steered the conversation into the opposite of what she meant. It's honestly very disingenuous and untrustworthy. It's also glanced over that Maria clearly said the tracking for the pen isn't very good, which immediately disqualifies this product for artists, as the tracking of the latest tablets is pretty accurate.
    Also 800 bucks is not "doesn't cost you an arm and a leg", when you can buy a tablet in the same price range and have an independent OS on it.
    I hope you guys take these words as constructive and refrain from such obvious biased product placement where you do not really give an honest opinion.

    • @iz723
      @iz723 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      I agree. It feels like an Unbox Therapy video.

    • @kanstantinkazlou
      @kanstantinkazlou หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      I agree that this video felt much more biased even for a sponseored one. For instance in the colour discussion he says the colour is not bad, when deltaE i over what they themselves call suitable for professional work. This shouldve been pointed out, since this clearly targets the professional artist market.

    • @R3AL-AIM
      @R3AL-AIM หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yeah, he dodged that one lol

    • @mikec2845
      @mikec2845 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      yeah this is one of their worst reviews

    • @sweiscool
      @sweiscool หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Agreed. LTT has proven again that they're not trustworthy. I guess only their techlinked and gamelinked channels are worth watching. For anything else, I'd steer clear of them. What a waste of some of the talented people working at LMG.

  • @saulgoodman2018
    @saulgoodman2018 หลายเดือนก่อน +219

    $900 for just a 17 inch screen? This does cost an arm and a leg.

    • @touma-san91
      @touma-san91 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah, it'll just cost a kidney and a liver instead.

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      With 900 dollars you can get a Lenovo Yoga with a touchscreen that has all the capabilities this screen does, but with the whole computer inside

  • @moviekiller9933
    @moviekiller9933 หลายเดือนก่อน +386

    man said bang for your buck when it costs so much to be a second screen with bad speakers and no onboard system like a tablet.

    • @renatatarnawski5974
      @renatatarnawski5974 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I guess he wanted to make his $
      By giving a BS review so
      That companies will keep sending him their products
      This is the most Untruthful
      Review that I've heard about
      The EXPRESSO.

    • @sumesh-kumar
      @sumesh-kumar หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      yup. u can get a Samsung Galaxy Tab S9+ at this price

    • @ilcilc2910
      @ilcilc2910 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Totally agree. This is definitely NOT a tablet. It's a portable touchscreen monitor. This would never replace a tablet.

    • @JamesR624
      @JamesR624 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yep. An iPad with remote desktop for your mac (or even just using Sidecar) gets you WAY WAY WAY more for your money.

    • @Dylan-zm3ht
      @Dylan-zm3ht หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sumesh-kumar Yea, and you can also buy a mountain bike. Whats your point? A tablet has nothing to do with this device lmao.

  • @David-Jette
    @David-Jette หลายเดือนก่อน +554

    "color accuracy is not bad"
    dE above 4, and this product is supposed to be for pro creatives. Anything above 2-3 is considered too uncalibrated for color work, and sure it can be calibrated, but come on!
    Are we just lying to consumers now?

    • @Parsilious
      @Parsilious หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      I kinda agree to a certain degree but he literally said in the video that its good for "most" creators not all. And with the ICC profile they provided the dE of the display would be around 2.5 which is just a little higher than the display I personally use for my workflw.

    • @genericscottishchannel1603
      @genericscottishchannel1603 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      paid actors

    • @JamesR624
      @JamesR624 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I guess when you get money to sponsor.... yeah, apparently....

    • @xanderlurks
      @xanderlurks หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      The price of it and being called 'affordable and color accuracy isn't bad' are both just stretching the truth to bullshit.

    • @zip3704
      @zip3704 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I disagree. Outside/portable environments is never a good place for color accuracy. It being good enough is fine for its usecase. Drawing tablets in general arent accurate. You would have a refrence monitor on the side at your main set up for final touch ups. The price just kills it though.

  • @TheFireRed
    @TheFireRed หลายเดือนก่อน +195

    Really bad take considering you can get an iPad Pro and much more portability since you don’t have to carry a whole friggin’ computer…

    • @joonglegamer9898
      @joonglegamer9898 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's a sponsor video, guys gotta make a living. But yeah, this thing will age like milk.

    • @TheFireRed
      @TheFireRed หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@joonglegamer9898 I’m not against it, mind you. Some time ago Linus said they’d call these kind of videos “Showcases”presenting the features they had to offer. This looks more like a recommendation. I’m torn about the title because it doesn’t replace a tablet.

    • @dushanranasingha6349
      @dushanranasingha6349 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You didn't understand the concept 😂

    • @okwiiarnold12
      @okwiiarnold12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's sponsored video so what can u do? But when u think about it, an iPad can make sense but it has comprises to not be a laptop replacement for creatives... yet.

  • @gregor2436
    @gregor2436 หลายเดือนก่อน +332

    Over 1000€. You get great graphic tablets for far less money. That's crazy.

    • @asddsa-dy4ne
      @asddsa-dy4ne หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      As Maria said, it's not a graphic tablet, it doesn't have the precision of a graphic tablet.

    • @gregor2436
      @gregor2436 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      @@asddsa-dy4ne so it is worse than a graphic tablet, more expensive as a graphic tablet. What is on the plus side?

    • @niicopanda
      @niicopanda หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Like what, a kamvas?

    • @hellomark1
      @hellomark1 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This is giving me boat-car feels, where it's like having a combination of a shitty boat and a shitty car. This is a shitty monitor and a shitty graphics tablet combined.

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      $799? I just nabbed a refurbished UPERFECT 16-inch portable monitor for less than $79

  • @azuredreamer
    @azuredreamer หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    1,2k$ CAD before taxes, sound like a arm or leg price🤷‍♂

  • @blueridgeocean
    @blueridgeocean หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    11:38 damage control lol

  • @narodniprirodnirezervaceso1635
    @narodniprirodnirezervaceso1635 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    This video makes even less sense when you consider that the iPad can also be used as a monitor for your Mac with touch pencil support

  • @Bouwplan
    @Bouwplan หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    Bruh, this video had#ad written al over it. The parts where you can see them draw is laggy as all hell

    • @Scruno
      @Scruno หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      1000%. Even him watching youtube and the latency with pressing is TERRIBLE

    • @falagarius
      @falagarius หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also that stand is wobbly as hell

  • @skarloeyable
    @skarloeyable หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    This is a catastrophic miss made even worse by the fact that Maria literally came on and told the truth before being paraphrased to completely gloss over her actual expert opinion :/

  • @ZacChilds
    @ZacChilds หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    It feels like everything Plouffe says is just spinning problems into making the sponsor look good.
    "The pen isn't very accurate" "It's great for taking notes!"
    "Great portable second monitor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg!" costs an arm and two legs
    I basically can't trust anything he says at this point

    • @clementcollier8432
      @clementcollier8432 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TBH regardless of sponsor shenanigan, I think you can't really trust whatever Plouffe says. There never is a lot of substance with him, it is mostly about the superficial, the looks and whatnots. He can be entertaining but for the most part I find his videos always lacking...

    • @AlexanderEinoder
      @AlexanderEinoder หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man is a "keyboard enthusiast" that thinks Cherry MX is good. What do you expect?

    • @fillezzo
      @fillezzo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlexanderEinoder I'm not a keyboard enthisiast, I own two keyboard, both use cherry mx switches. Both are stock or whatever you want to call them, nothing special. If I were too look for more of a professional (custom) keyboard, what switches should I look for?

    • @AlexanderEinoder
      @AlexanderEinoder หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fillezzo I'm not an expert myself, I'd recommend watching some vids by chyrosan22. The whole scene seems to be about covering up or altering the sounds of the switches which I think is a consequence of cherrys having a poor sound to begin with. Old Alps switches have a dope sound and feel and some newer optical switches are pretty decent.
      I think it's important to think about what you actually like about mechanical keyboards, what sounds make you feel good? Thockiness might not be the right direction

  • @TheCrazyPozavnist
    @TheCrazyPozavnist หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I think you guys were supposed to release this video on April 1st...

  • @svk1324
    @svk1324 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    I like Plouffe, but he makes this seem like a better deal than it really is. Bit of an sour aftertaste left if you consider the referral link.

    • @code17220
      @code17220 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      he just said outright lies all the way through the video and you only realize them when you use professional grade artist stuff yourself

    • @anonymouscommentator
      @anonymouscommentator หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i dont even like plouffe

    • @xnutzii
      @xnutzii หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same ​@@anonymouscommentator

  • @shalaby96
    @shalaby96 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    It felt super forced, like Maria was trying to state whats good and bad with the tracking i was waiting for how she feels it compares to the ipad pro or whatever she uses but she was cut off every time. Does it have a battery? What do the type C ports do? What is the competition (other than an ipad since its only a screen)? Does it have a speaker (why are there those huge bezels)? Is it not scummy that the necessary accessories are sold separately? Are the prices mentioned in the end including the accessories? So yea feels lacking but i did enjoy what Maria did to Riley.

  • @jonathanfung4028
    @jonathanfung4028 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    What is even the point of Labs if you're just going to skip over their results in a sponsored video?

    • @Jj82op
      @Jj82op หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did they skip?

    • @jonathanfung4028
      @jonathanfung4028 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Jj82op Not a literal "skip", but at 7:20 they briefly show the results for color accuracy and gamut coverage. Usually they explain what the numbers mean, more than "It's not bad."

    • @Jj82op
      @Jj82op หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jonathanfung4028 I just assumed that he didn't know the exact numbers at that moment. I don't think it's a big deal ​

    • @VincentGroenewold
      @VincentGroenewold หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Jj82opIt is a big deal, why even bring up the graph then, that's the entire point. They are professionals.

    • @siontheodorus1501
      @siontheodorus1501 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jj82op they already tested it before hence why he knew the "work" profile is the best and dE2000 of more than 3 is kinda bad for professionals work

  • @Manimal747
    @Manimal747 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    First LTT video I've seen in a while that made me uncomfortable in the sense that it seems 100% paid for. I get the sponsored videos, but isn't LTT supposed to only talk up things that are actually good whether they're sponsored or not? Someone approved this sponsorship before testing it seems.

    • @Sithhy
      @Sithhy หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can write about it on their forum, they usually listen to the feedback

  • @ThatsDandy
    @ThatsDandy หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    "wow you hear 17.3 inches and you don't think it's that big until you're holding it in your hands"

    • @danielwilliams3161
      @danielwilliams3161 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅😅😅😅😅

    • @iantullie
      @iantullie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's what she said...

  • @rudijohnsen9674
    @rudijohnsen9674 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    This is just an 14 minute add with an add for a backpack sneaked into it

    • @bobspldbckwrds
      @bobspldbckwrds หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's the whole concept of this channel. It pays bills.

    • @zaphenath6756
      @zaphenath6756 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ad not add

    • @kanstantinkazlou
      @kanstantinkazlou หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@bobspldbckwrdsIsnt this supposed to be an unboxing channnel? There is a real difference between somebody unboxing and discussing their first impressions of a product, and a pretty blatant ad.

    • @RippahRooJizah
      @RippahRooJizah หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kanstantinkazlou Remember, it's a "tax write off".

    • @floral1474
      @floral1474 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RippahRooJizah What are you talking about?

  • @TheMaevian
    @TheMaevian หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    For that price I rather save up and buy a Wacom screen

    • @AlexanderEinoder
      @AlexanderEinoder หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or save a buck and get a huion or xppen

  • @geraldpolymath
    @geraldpolymath หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Buyer beware; I few years ago I bought the two 15" screens. I had a problem with my order and their customer support was extremely rude.

  • @timr0by
    @timr0by หลายเดือนก่อน +225

    Edit: We revolted enough and they changed the title!
    Don't buy a tablet...buy a monitor to haul around with your large laptop and charger. Bad take.

    • @penguinwizard
      @penguinwizard หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      This is the most useless advice I have ever gotten from Shortcircuit. Buying a device that's just a monitor. It can't replace a tablet at all.

    • @colby_ybloc
      @colby_ybloc หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah this title needs to be changed
      It's a cool monitor, should've just advertised it as such

    • @derpydestinies
      @derpydestinies หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's sponsored content. What do you expect?

    • @ScytheNoire
      @ScytheNoire หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No kidding. Went to there site to see what the specs of the computer device inside is and... oh, it has no mobile computer inside, it's just an monitor.
      Stupid video title.

    • @renatatarnawski5974
      @renatatarnawski5974 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@penguinwizardI have a few tablets
      All from Android
      Not overly priced
      And they last
      Very pleased with them
      Lastly
      The Reviews that I have gotten
      About them B4 I Bought
      Were Honest
      From The Speakers TO
      The Battery Life
      After
      THIS Dishonest Review?
      I Am very tempted TO
      Unsubscribe
      This Channel has gotten
      Worse + Worse!
      It used to be done TO help ppl Steer to the right product
      Now
      The Reviews seem to be
      So that he can get FREE Stuff
      "VERY DISAPPOINTED"!
      The product that they need
      $999. USD
      But all the stuff u will have to get from a Stand etc?
      It will cost u OVER $500.
      NOT Counting Tax
      It prob will cost CLOSE TO
      $2000. For a Subpar product
      With A Tinny Sound

  • @mattBLACKpunk
    @mattBLACKpunk หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    4:19 "guide stickers? Lift stickers? They've got it all" wow so they couldn't even include an installation frame for the price lmao

  • @renatatarnawski5974
    @renatatarnawski5974 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Just read the reviews
    Burns thru power usually 1.5 hrs
    And
    The speakers are really tiny
    So it sounds Tinny
    Price $999.
    You will need a Stand $99.
    Expresso Pen $89.
    Expresso Charge $199.
    Expresso Case $69.
    Comes out to Almost $500.
    Not counting taxes but
    NOT an APPLE Person?
    U Won't Be Pleased

  • @Madnessnunky
    @Madnessnunky หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I got a portable ~15" external 4K monitor for ~$129 shipped. USB-C powered and mini HDMI. Obviously a laptop screen slapped into an aluminum frame, but incredible value for money. Only 60Hz, no clue on color accuracy, no touch, and speakers are a joke, but it gives SO MUCH real estate and flexibility. It had one of those pleather folio covers with it as a kickstand.
    The extras the shown product has aren't really worth an extra ~$600. The stand is the only notable feature since all of the "graphic work" elements were pretty much shot down by Maria along with other commenters. It's so gosh darn expensive... 4K/120 monitors with the same or better color accuracy (HDR 1000) run $600 on sale nowadays too.
    Point being, it's an awful value proposition on every front. Apart from being 4K, a used iPad / cheap drawing tablet does everything it does and more.

  • @shaofuhuwu709
    @shaofuhuwu709 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    This felt like a shameless ad

  • @AgentSn0wWhite
    @AgentSn0wWhite หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    So it's not a tablet . It's a portable touchscreen monitor

    • @noredine
      @noredine หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They didn't claim it was

    • @AgentSn0wWhite
      @AgentSn0wWhite หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@noredine the original tittle did and mentioned in the video

    • @ilcilc2910
      @ilcilc2910 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, they changed the title after most of the comments started questioning the validity of that very claim. Never forget LTT is a business and even some of the most "ethical" businesses participate in "creative" marketing ie. lying.

  • @mkruizv
    @mkruizv หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    11:38 Dude... The whole point of a huge pen tablet for your computer is drawing final artwork... Hell, you can even do final artwork on Ipads and Android tablets.

    • @code17220
      @code17220 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and at least you'd get good response time with an ipad pen.. or anything from Wacom or Huion, which this video NEVER mentions

  • @kevinmckevinface4563
    @kevinmckevinface4563 หลายเดือนก่อน +470

    Bruh, 17.3” can’t be classed as a tablet

    • @chm2
      @chm2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      That's why the title says buy this INSTEAD of a tablet.

    • @kevinmckevinface4563
      @kevinmckevinface4563 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@chm2 but he calls it a tablet in the video so it is a tablet

    • @jimjimerson6637
      @jimjimerson6637 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Slablet?

    • @DEWGOFFICIAL
      @DEWGOFFICIAL หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Why not?

    • @alistairblaire6001
      @alistairblaire6001 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      My first computer back in the day had a 13” monitor lmao

  • @TheMasterMakarov
    @TheMasterMakarov หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    "espresso sponsored this"
    sound just like when I found out there is actually something called "Big Pork" that sponsors Strongmen to eat Pork
    lmao

  • @snazzysailor
    @snazzysailor หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Over 1k€. This must be a sponsored video by them.

    • @user-Cata7sti7ma7
      @user-Cata7sti7ma7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      all video on short-circuit are sponsored, its a unboxing ads channel. sorry that you did not realised it like.... for 4 years now. lel

  • @TheVirtualArena24
    @TheVirtualArena24 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Anything for sponsors

  • @VenturePictures
    @VenturePictures หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Pen tracking isn't too good, and it's got nothing to shout about with colour accuracy. These two points discount this product for most professionals / artists.
    Price too ... shesh ... get an iPad with an Apple Pencil that's actually accurate. Can even connect as an external display on your Mac ... so like. Value wise.
    Get a Tablet lol.
    This was a kind of product a graphics designer should've reviewed in full imo.

    • @maxonwii
      @maxonwii หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      as a student i got an ipad pro and the apple pencil for nearly the same price and i don‘t need another product and have great performance instead of the espresso one

    • @VenturePictures
      @VenturePictures หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@maxonwii Yeah this is exactly it - The Ipad is an extremely capable machine for art. I know many who use it for professional jobs also.

  • @yaqootmirza7389
    @yaqootmirza7389 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Bro you can get an s8+ or ultra or even the s9. No one needs a massive lcd screen thats this overpriced.
    It doesnt even do anything insanely cool that would justify the price

    • @Ikxi
      @Ikxi หลายเดือนก่อน

      you mean the samsung tab s series or the phones?

    • @michaeldyer6378
      @michaeldyer6378 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @Ikxi . Galaxy tabs would be way better value. screens have better pressure sensitivity. than this thing. They include the pen with better line accuracy and you still get second-screen functionality. At least i know you can with PC. ITs a WIN WIN

    • @RandomGuy-om1vy
      @RandomGuy-om1vy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaeldyer6378 and its an OLED thats way brighter and more color accurate. Plus its a tablet PC on its own.

  • @utrian4148
    @utrian4148 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    If You want to test drawing on it, You may have to watch Bard Colbow first to know what is important.
    So e.g. palm detection, line consistency, latency ... there's a lot to factor in.

    • @michaeldyer6378
      @michaeldyer6378 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I bought one... sent it back with 14 returns.... It's fine for note taking so BAD for drawing.

    • @utrian4148
      @utrian4148 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaeldyer6378 Thanks! Everyone should read this as warning.

    • @code17220
      @code17220 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and that's the whole thing that labs should've done for graphic tablet, but ofc they skipped the labs data because it made the sponsor look so much worse than anybody else. ESPECIALLY because the vendor doesn't have a color management software, meaning we can't use a color calibrator on it WHAT THE FUCK.

  • @NightShade4275
    @NightShade4275 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's pretty sad, but I appreciate the reviews where they call out a bad product for what it is, hope they would have done that here.

  • @CasualG-mer
    @CasualG-mer หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I would buy an iPad Pro rather than that thing, and I have one, loving Procreate and the Apple Pen is just that good. I don't see why people would buy Espresso.
    If you guys want a drawing display or drawing monitor, highly suggest either Wacom, Huion or XP Pen.

  • @mavfan1
    @mavfan1 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So wonderful that you say “actually” so often. It adds so much meaning to what you’re saying.

  • @kikmi1900
    @kikmi1900 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    *Dont buy a tablet, buy a second screen - yup. total sense. All of it. the entire video. ggwp. 🙄

  • @qpdlzjs
    @qpdlzjs หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    1K lmao

  • @small_Aubz24
    @small_Aubz24 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    After watching this video and reading a lot of the comments, I just wanted to chime in by mentioning that you can buy an xp-pen Magic Drawing Pad for $700 and it has android built in with a WAY better stylus and better color accuracy.

  • @prakhars962
    @prakhars962 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    ok i prefer my second hand ipad. This is just a small portable monitor with touch.

  • @jonm4206
    @jonm4206 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Cant wait to hear about this one on WAN show. Ploufe you did a great job with what you were given, not sure who approved an ad placement for something with seemingly no redeeming qualities at that price.

    • @ddlux5866
      @ddlux5866 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I bet they'll discuss how it's our fault as viewers for interpreting the video as such lol "we said it was sponsored!"

  • @technewb8241
    @technewb8241 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    $900 for a portable external display? Bruh, buy another laptop at that price

  • @chazlepine242003
    @chazlepine242003 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    A tablet or a portable screen? If it's just a screen, it's expensive.

  • @andrgrimes
    @andrgrimes หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Cool, another crazy expensive device from Plouffe, dont buy a few hundred dollar tablet, buy this for only 3 times as much.

  • @yo.poldoo
    @yo.poldoo หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oof had to check twice if this was an unbox therapy video.

  • @NaoKeysVT
    @NaoKeysVT หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sooo if you want to interact with this for drawing.. you dont have gestures??
    Then you pretty much have to bring a keyboard as well with you or at least a macropad.
    Being able to zoom, rotate, flip quickly is important but i cant imagine a good spot to have the macbook just for the keyboard.

  • @georgemariatos-metaxas7780
    @georgemariatos-metaxas7780 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As Linus has said before, "There isnt a bad product, there is a bad price". For 1000 Euros this is horseshit mate

  • @ahsaft
    @ahsaft หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i dont see how this is a good thing to get

  • @xDontStarve
    @xDontStarve หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    you forgot to link the color calibration file.

    • @ShortCircuit
      @ShortCircuit  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Added to the description, thanks!

  • @12ally3
    @12ally3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think I may choose the acoustic version 📒 📝

  • @savagemadman2054
    @savagemadman2054 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Title is misleading. This isnt a portable monitor - its a Wacom Cintiq clone graphics tablet. Wacom has been the standard here forever and their pen interface looks a heck of a lot more responsive.
    I'd expect a portable monitor to have HDMI, audio support, and an anti-glare display - I certainly wouldnt buy one without.

  • @Cinnamon_Shaey
    @Cinnamon_Shaey หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    im like if one of the selling points is "its a touch screen" yea, a lot of products like external screens are these days
    i mean personally i bought the galazy tab s9 ultra as a media tablet and i could not be happier, even for drawing its okay, and oled, might not be like creator accurate for drawing but i mean it wasent designed for one thing only its a bit of everything, and i mean for something that thin the speakers are incredible

  • @Innuya
    @Innuya หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Delta-E of 4 in the srgb space isn't great, is it?

  • @trbdann2
    @trbdann2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    wtf lol that price

  • @Ikxi
    @Ikxi หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    1-2 pound stand
    YOU DON'T WANT THAT IN YOUR BACKPACK
    my laptop is 2kg, that's heavy for me to consider taking my tablet with me instead

  • @ajs1998
    @ajs1998 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sponsored short circuit videos suck. I don't want to have to mentally factor in how honest the host is being. I like these people, I want their real unfiltered opinions. Otherwise what's the point? Waste of my time.

  • @mailjasons
    @mailjasons หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Pretty heavy to carry around. My laptop weighs about 4 lbs (xps15), I'm a tech contractor and once I have all my cables and portable network test equipment in my bag, I don't want to add over 5lbs for a second display that doesn't even have a battery (so it drains my laptop battery on the go). Idk. Seems like it doesn't fit into a market. Too heavy to be portable, too flimsy to be stationary.
    Dang, that price though. Nope.

    • @Ikxi
      @Ikxi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yea way too heavy
      my laptop alone with 2 bottles of water in the backpack can be quite heavy, so this is just a nope

  • @Ikxi
    @Ikxi หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bought a used samsung tab s7 fe with cracked screen + keyboard for like 250€ and it's working great
    The thing in this video.....

  • @roboticdem0n
    @roboticdem0n หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question: what is the compatibility of the stylus with android or windows based operating systems and wacomstyle pens?

  • @andrescastrillo1480
    @andrescastrillo1480 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    LTT got paid pretty good to release this video

  • @boeufkak
    @boeufkak หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    it would've been nice to compare the setup you demo'd to a macbook with an ipad in sidecar, if that's the use case you're highlighting. does the extra size make it worthwhile versus the integrated ecosystem, how does the stylus hold up to the apple pencil, etc etc.

  • @idabss2710
    @idabss2710 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I use my Huion tablet as a second screen and as a drawing tablet when traveling with the laptop something I like about this one is that only need 1 cable to work instead of a dual cable for the laptop and the energy plug, it saves some cluster and was considering this product until I saw the lack of accuracy on that Photoshop practice, would keep an eye on the brand for future releases.

    • @code17220
      @code17220 หลายเดือนก่อน

      please just get a wacom cintiq instead.. the brand in this video is awful for artists

  • @Th3Shrike
    @Th3Shrike หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Feel like youre better off just getting a tab s9 and using it to mirror windows

  • @BeyondBaito
    @BeyondBaito หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you want a tablet for art and design get a $500 XP Pen Magic Drawing Pad.
    The name is meh BUT
    $500
    12.2 for easier travel
    Android tablet
    Expandable storage
    Comes with a stylus
    Its built like their graphics tablets, but runs on android. So you get that same response you would on their other products
    Did I forgot to mention its 500 dollars?

  • @yo.poldoo
    @yo.poldoo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The take was so bad they've changed the title from this:
    "Don't buy a tablet, buy this - espresso 17 pro"

  • @robin2080
    @robin2080 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    $800 bucks lol... that schizo level of absurdity for what the item is, a portable monitor.

  • @98ahni
    @98ahni หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On the topic of _iPad being a phone:_ take a look at *duet display.* It makes your iOS device do this. You can also use the Apple Pencil with _all the precision,_ use gestures and it can do it all *wirelessly.*

  • @dothetontim
    @dothetontim หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:45 was about as far as I needed to go when the price flashed up on the website.

  • @22oreos
    @22oreos หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:34 "through whiteboard collaboration tools like Miro, Figma..." *laughs* "...and Conceptboard"

  • @slowlanegamer
    @slowlanegamer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just a note you can literally just use an iPad Pro for an external touch screen MacBook Pro Display like wirelessly or wired I believe. Also like this thing with a pen is going to be the same price as an iPad Pro which seems a little crazy for a monitor. Even the smaller touch screen versions like the 13" and 15" or what ever they are like $500 still which seems really really high. But the non-touch screen one is like $219 so I guess that the touchscreen costs a lot to put in there lol. Also the Pro is like $799 or something insane and the pen is $90 as well as the screen protector is $60 for some reason.... It's really cool and nice for creative work but like a Wacom tablet or an iPad would prolly do the job better at similar prices and with more support for them later on.

  • @nathantron
    @nathantron หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just got a Self-Harm warning.... this is gonna be goood.

  • @thedeathmantle3817
    @thedeathmantle3817 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What would be a good tablet to work on CAD software, i asume CAD wont run well on something like tablet but if you can run it on a desktop and remote connect the tablet would that work?

    • @baranmarap
      @baranmarap หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've tried running Onshape on Ipad and Android tablets before and it is really unproductive compared to the good old mouse and keyboard. I am guessing this would be worse since you wouldn't have the gestures you have with the ipad os and android app of the onshape or any other cad software. You'd still need to use a keyboard for them.

    • @yahlunna9799
      @yahlunna9799 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never used Autodesk and im not sure what level of precision you seek, but any Android tablet with SuperDisplay and some sort of decent pencil input would most likely do the trick.
      Samsung Galaxy Tabs are great because they use Wacom's EMR with the SPen and Superdisplay translates that imput really well, I can use the S9 Ultra for drawing and vfx work without any issues.
      I think you can do pretty much the same with an iPad onto an iMac, but the apple pencil is capacitive, like the one shown in the video, so you gotta charge these.
      And of course, any graphic display from wacom, xpen, huion, etc are great options for more serious professional work.

    • @renatatarnawski5974
      @renatatarnawski5974 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really like the android ones
      But Google Tablets
      Let Google know
      What you Are looking for In a tablet.
      Size, Price, Speakers, Color etc
      Good Luck!

  • @NightFoxZero
    @NightFoxZero หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While I'll agree with most comments in saying that something marketed towards artists and designers probably shouldn't be reviewed by someone who isn't either of those things. Commenters who also aren't digital artists are making the wrong comparison between a display like this and an Ipad. I would like you guys to point me to the nearest 17" or 20" ipad. Going from 11" to 17" is GIGANTIC. The real comparison for this product are other drawing tablets. A Wacom with similar functionality costs well over $2500. But compared to a Huion or XP pen display it's a bit closer but those other ones seemingly have a better pen than this display has

  • @Raze0Encrypted
    @Raze0Encrypted หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    you can probably get a touch screen oled LAPTOP at that price....

  • @anonymouscommentator
    @anonymouscommentator หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    >17 inch "tablet"
    >unusable color accuracy, yet he claims its good
    >shitty concept (not standalone, requires you to bring an additional laptop, no finger gestures like pinch zooming etc)
    >expensive as hell, yet claims to be affordable
    >does not talk a single word about competitors
    >bad stylus accucary
    >maria clearly said its worse than just using an ipad
    this is an objectively bad product, yet it feels like worse than any sponsored shill. why are the OBVIOUS downsides not pointed out?

  • @user-pn6qq1zr3x
    @user-pn6qq1zr3x หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t see the value. either buy a mac+ipad+apple pencil if you’re in apple ecosystem or get a surface laptop studio if you’re into windows. All microsoft surface line up products come with a great stylus.

  • @LemonSherbetCandy
    @LemonSherbetCandy หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the only benefit is it seems to be powered off the laptop or a battery instead of needing additional power cable like most pen displays.
    That said, appearance wise it looks a lot like the Samsung Tab S8 Ultra I just bought, without the internals that makes it so handy for drawing without cables in the way.

  • @jtx6104
    @jtx6104 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We wont see popularity in larger portable monitors until it's done with foldable screens. Other drawback is cables. At least an ipad would have sidecar and its still an ipad when youre not doing work on the go.

  • @Amphibax
    @Amphibax หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Looks like a great product for someone out there I just have no idea who that person would be also damn is that thing expensive, for that price it really shoud have an oled display

  • @edgarallanmendozacampos29
    @edgarallanmendozacampos29 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Don't buy a tablet, buy.... a Huion/Wacom/XPPen tablet, more precision, some have 4K screens, more color accurate panels, same size or sizes that better suit individual needs, you can connect them via USB C, similar prices and some come with their own macropad as a gift

    • @Drunken_Horse
      @Drunken_Horse หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But they have started using a proprietary form of usb c. The port is buried deep and most normal usb c casings won't fit. There's videos showing people filing their usb cables down to fit. Their own 1 foot cables are around $30 and are often unavailable. Great products ruined by greed.

    • @johtoguy
      @johtoguy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its an art tablet not an ipad.

    • @_Kisaragi
      @_Kisaragi หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      literally like, my huion drawing tablet cost like 250 and would be way better for drawing than this thing, and he's like "oh it's ONLY 799" like what???

  • @hauslerful
    @hauslerful หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I thought LMG would do better than this after the GN controversy. This is just blatant pondering to the sponsor. Also twisting Maria's words to make the opposite point of what she was trying to make was awfully rude. To her and the viewers.

  • @JDJ1213
    @JDJ1213 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a cool commercial. Where’s the actual content?

    • @SanderEvers
      @SanderEvers หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is ShorCircuit. Which is supposed to give a short unboxing / introduction of a product. It's not a review.

    • @ivangerginov5648
      @ivangerginov5648 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SanderEvers It's not unboxing either. It's an ad

  • @laupoke
    @laupoke หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Are you planning on making any non sponsored videos in the near future ? Cause I didn't subscribe to this channel to watch ads for free all the fucking time

  • @okwiiarnold12
    @okwiiarnold12 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:42 Riley's amazing Maria. Seriously I don't get the chance to see her work! Want her to do artist/graphic design related Short Circuit product videos.
    Also i agree these "sponsored" videos are cap and ipad can be better and actually replace a laptop but the apple tax... Uhhh but better than $1200 CAD

  • @Vortex1x1x1x
    @Vortex1x1x1x หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow. i think this is the first time i have thought "they are out of touch." i know it was sponsored but like wtf this is just not a good product and yall tried to spin it as amazing monitor

  • @cosmological7773
    @cosmological7773 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like this guy's late night entertainment has allot of clowns sitting on balloons

  • @davidbelecci6970
    @davidbelecci6970 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For $900 can just get an iPad Pro of the latest slate like design (maybe an Apple refurb model) with a faaaaarrr better pencil (accuracy, latency), and draw anywhere for 10-15 hours straight.

  • @Andreasytac
    @Andreasytac หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like this one might cause some internal discussion as to what should be accepted as a sponsorship. This was very awkward to watch.

  • @TheDuzx
    @TheDuzx หลายเดือนก่อน

    The formfactor is carzy good and the build quality looks really good as well. However seeing that wobble in the line is such a bummer. If they can solve the wobble in future devices then I'll get one no questions asked.

  • @NoseNuggets
    @NoseNuggets หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh, you mean a drawing tablet. Not what one would consider a "tablet" if you were to google "tablet". I was hoping this would be a demo of a new 17" android tablet.

  • @Steve30x
    @Steve30x หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't buy a tablet buy this they say 😂. That's just a portable monitor with no operating system.

  • @oblivioncreations
    @oblivioncreations หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a digital artist it's sounding like they wanted to make this as a in the middle ground of protable artist tool and at home artist tool, but the moment she said the pen wasn't good then I knew it wouldn't be worth it, you can get a Surface pro with keyboard cover and the surface pen on sale for probably 1k, Samsung tab S9 FE for $550, or even XP pen offers a 4k 16 inch touch screen display with better color grading and an accurate pen for the same price as that displays price

  • @LPcrazy_88
    @LPcrazy_88 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Plouffe was someone holding you at gunpoint for this sponsor? You're smarter than this man. Literally nothing about this is OK. The price is ridiculous, the color accuracy is a joke, and even Maria said it wasn't accurate with the stylus... The Auto Rotation looks like auto rotation from 15 years ago... Do better man.

  • @mlloser8318
    @mlloser8318 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well galaxy tab plus or ultra model is a better product with OLED displays and high end mobile chipset inbuilt. and samsung tab + is about the same price ( and also the spen doesn't need to be charged . its needs to be charged only for air actions) (also you can buy multiple hardness pen tips as you like(i got 4 different hardness level of tips with my old note 9 a tool to remove it in the box and I don't like the soft tip of newer spen so i just changed it and intalled the hardest one i have)

  • @matthiaswarlop2316
    @matthiaswarlop2316 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    why so overly positive? Every fact you state about the product is just not good compared to other alternatives, but you keep stating 'its not bad' or 'its okay', when in reality this seems like a poorly executed product. Seems disingenuous.

  • @falagarius
    @falagarius หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is it 475 measured nits? Did they sent you one thats better than the one they sell?

  • @alejandrox1274
    @alejandrox1274 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    11:11 I'm sorry, but as a designer with an iPad and a Mac, she is wrong. The iPad has its own apps to draw or sketch, but if you really need the big apps, you can achieve the same goal by using the Mac's ability to extend to iPad (do not confuse with Universal Control). Also, you don't even need a cable. Then you can simply open Illustrator or Photoshop and draw there using all the power of a Mac and the touch of the iPad.