MiSTer is recreation or simulation of hw. Not emulation. It's not capable to recreate up to a ps 3. Second failure. N64 and ps1 is the most it can simulate. Dumbing down technical terms to appeal to a bigger audience shouldn't be the standard of a tech channel. ☮️
Hi Sir, does your analogue duo can play normal sound while connect HDMI to TV? I and other players met the same problem: the console can't play the normal sound with HDMI on TV, only can play the normal sound by using the external speaker connect to the headphone jack. so I would like to know your console, what's your current firmware version?
I am french and at school there was a franco-japanese guy. One day he invinted me to his home and the PC engine was there. I couldn't believe my eyes how small it was and all the great games it had. I had a blast that day and I have never forget it.
The yellowing of those old consoles isn't always from smoking. It happens naturally with age. I've heard tell it's mostly UV from sunlight doing what it does, breaking chemical bonds like a divorce attorney for plastics. (Though smoking doesn't help literally anything.) I've also heard tell you can reverse it with some kind of hydrogen peroxide scrub, but never had occasion to do it myself.
i can back this up, most polymers aren't UV resistent. It is the same today, the industry only pumps in so much phenyl rings as fillers into the polymers as a protector, that they polymer longer holds its intended color and shape. (since phenyl rings also are UV absorbant and getting distroyed by UV).
I had a midi keyboard that sit in a box for 4 years in a smoke free room and the keys when from white to straight up yellow 😅 It's some off gassing process that cheap plastics have. Hydrogen peroxide / retrobright works but it also damages the plastics to some extend so you can't do that infinitely.
Heat does it as well. Ive got an 2x Amiga 1200s one on my desk and one that was on a shelf near the radiator, it never that yellowed but I had retrobrited it years ago anyway. My desk based machine was fine, but the one on the bottom shelf out of sight by the radiator turned into the most yellowed machine I've ever owned.
10:25 As the owner of an 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth controller, they overlook a lot of things with their controllers. My controller cost $70 USD and at the time the lower tier version, the Ultimate 2.4g, didn't have Hall Effect joysticks and didn't have Bluetooth when it launched at $50 USD. Now the Ultimate 2.4g is essentially the same controller but with way wider device compatibility, Hall Effect sticks, Bluetooth and is cheaper. The only difference in features is the Ultimate Bluetooth having an actual pairing button, Gyro support, and Nintendo player indicator lights. Otherwise the Ultimate 2.4g is far and away the better deal.
Also the PC Engine CD also has a kick ass version of Double Dragon II that's based off of the NES version but with updated graphics and Anime style cut scenes.
I never thought I would hear about PC-Engine stuff on this channel! I really love Blood Wolf, Break In, Bomberman '94, Keith Courage, Daisenpuu and King of Casino.
I'm super excited for Analogue's N64 they're releasing later this year. I've got a stack of N64 games, but I don't have space for a CRT. I could probably grab a Retro-tink (and probably still will at some point), but I'm really interested to see AnalogueOS on the Analogue3D, as I really like AnalogueOS on my Pocket and want to see what people do with it on a much more powerful console with thumbstick support. Also, native 4k support and no region lock. Also also, the 8bit-do controller they tease at the bottom of the Analogue3D page looks pretty great (though I'm actually a bit of a fan of the original n64 controller, even if it might just be nostalgia goggles.)
Dungeon Explorer II on the CD addon of the TG16/PCE is probably one of the best Gauntlet-style games of all time, and it has a kick-ass soundtrack too. Anyone looking at this should check it out. It can be played solo but it actually has support for up to 5 (yes, five) players. It's sick
I feel like having tech quickies to reference about hardware emulation and FPGAs would help a lot where the details dont have time to be fleshed out here (and possible missed with how quick the remarks are being done).
These have to be the two nerdiest men alive. That dude who pops in 2/3rd of the way into the video is hilarious, looks like he’s hasn’t bought new clothes since high school. And the whole scene with y’all analyzing the CD condition, priceless. Truly nerdery at it’s finest. I love it.
My cousin and I played so much air zonk when we were kids. Every time I would talk about it none of my friends knew anything about it. It's really cool to see this return.
love fpga consoles, love the aesthetic and cleanliness of analogue, hate their marketing. $250 with no controller when its going for retro console feel is craaazy
David’s been doing a lot of retro gaming content lately. Maybe I’m out of the loop, but where’s Emily been? Didn’t this used to be her area of expertise?
I have wondered the same thing but @@BelacDarkstormis probably right. Being a trans person on the Internet sucks, it's probably worse if you're on a big TH-cam channel
I'll forgive you for thinking Ys "started on" the Turbo Grafx because you almost pronounced it correctly. It actually started a little earlier in the PC88/MSX/NES era.
As a non-turbogrfx fan, I am so tempted to get the Analogue Duo. I purchase their NT, and SuperNT and Mega systems, but I also own physical game carts for NES, SNES, and Genesis. Turbogrfx is the only console I don’t own any games for. Scouring eBay, those darn games are EXPENSIVE! I would have been more interested to get one if I own games. From my experience with their other SKUs, if you want the best console to play physical games with native digital video out in HDMI, Analogue products are unbeatable. Analogue is working on a N64 compatible product, and I do own a few N64 GamePaks, so I’m definitely interested in that once it’s available for order.
PC Engine games are cheaper. I generally find a ma and pop shop I like and buy a big box of games. For Ebay, I would wait for sellers to make you offers. Generally I stick close to the prices on price charting and make offers when I get.
The turbo switches do not work when the recommended 8bitdo controller is connected directly to the Duo console. This is a terrible oversight in my opinion and nobody else seems to notice it.. And when the controller is paired using the dongle you can't adjust the switches individually. The procedure to adjust the turbo switches is also very tedious and the documentation from both 8bitdo and Analogue on this topic is pretty much worthless.
Friends and family know I have retro games, and like to play them when they're over. I wouldn't dream of giving my kids/friends/family a "MiSTer experience". I love my Analogue devices.
No controllers is really annoying. Also I wish the controller port for OG controllers was on the front for my setup. My current TG-16 setup is A/V going into a RetroTink and a fully loaded Everdrive. I love it!
LTT's Vessi ads are so funny lol "Vessi CLAIMS they're shoes are waterproof" LTT is the only channel saying it like that. lol Honestly props to LTT for trying to tell us the truth.
What a convincing title to a product that's the same chips you've been sold four different ways only with an optical drive in it this time. Honestly unless you've got some requirement to plug plastic into plastic, PC Engine's been solved for a decade now, and you can do everything this is doing and more on a $30 used RPi4 1GB. If you step up to the $50 4GB model and apply a minor overclock, it even makes a convincing Dreamcast. If Analogue knew how to scale properly I wouldn't give them so much shit. But they don't, they've been operating on FOMO for at least four generations of FPGA devices now, and it's tiresome to see people buy out their stock to list it for double plus on ebay.
@08:02 "including the SuperGrafX games. There was like 16 of them that were made". 5 SuperGrafX were made. Then there is an additional 1/2 which could use some SuperGrafX gfx capabilities.
The questions are always what do you want something to do or do you expect out of it and what are you willing to pay. Once you come to terms with those two questions then it's just a matter of ease of use and stuff like that. I still prefer for the pocket 100% I just don't see the point in this unless you are using physical games in which case this is the choice to go with I guess. But I've never against more options and more choices, bring it on, the more the merrier.
If Analogue ever make a multi console, that plays the main 8/16/32-Bit consoles and arcade cabs, with real cart and CD support, I'd be very interested, it would have to have realchip audio support though, with legit OPL2/3/MIDI/Chiptune audio hardware built-in, a high-quality audio DAC and DSP, with full 36-Bit analogue video output options, they could get away with a HQ DSP & an all-in-one synth audio processor with specific audio codecs for each system. FPGA is not very good at audio generation, it's great for pre-sampled/sequenced audio, but you need either a fast RISC or X86 CPU for good audio emulation, and better yet a legit audio ASIC or DP, which have processors designed to crunch and process audio properly without artefacts, jitter, clipping, popping, timing issues and so on.
As soon as there is a digital output we don‘t really need a FPGA console. With a modded Wii U you can play GameCube games. Not from disc though (I think). N64 is coming (from Analogue and to Mister)…
@@The_Affable_Grump It's not about the output. It's about the 1:1 hardware emulation so you can have all consoles in one and the ability to use ROMS, all of it while having no added input lag and slow downs from these software emulators. Now, if you think FPGA can't achieve that with PS2, Dream Cast and Game Cube, that's something else entirely.
@@CeceliPS3 It will be a lot more complicated. But those FPGA wizards are making good progress with the N64 which is supposed to be a more difficult system... But in the future it will require a much more powerful FPGA, as well. I think this might be the biggest problem as it has to be at a good price or it doesn't make to much sense as no one will be interested.
Me, under 25 and not a Retro games guy, listening to the first minute: ""ah, so the yabadu, whis is actually the hibbeatata, was the predecessor of the uiuiuiuiui, while in the east devices like the frrrrrrrrrrrrr where more popular. Interesting!"
There has never been a better time to be a gamer. And a big part of that is all these amazing emulators that we have now. You can play pretty much any game for any system whether it be Atari,NES,PS1,Dreamcast,Gamecube and even Switch! Now your more modern consoles (non Nintendo) from around the 8th generation onward don't really have usable emulators yet. But even Xbox 360 and PS3 emulation has come a long way with many games fully playable. Not only are emulators easy to use and more convenient then having a room full of cartridges and discs but they can also make your games look wayyy better than they ever could on the original console. For example 3D systems like the Dreamcast,PS2,Gamecube and Wii run at a resolution of about 640x480. This may have been fine for playing Quake on a CRT on your PC in the late 90s but in today's world with modern flatscreens it looks terrible and muddy. Emulators can increase that resolution to 1080p,4K and even 8K if you have a system and monitor that can handle it. It takes those old blurry games with jagged edges due to poor anti-aliasing and turns them into crisp crystal clear gaming experiences. You will be amazed at just how much better the games look running at such a higher resolution. Even the low res PS1 games running a 320x240 can be cleaned up quite a bit giving you a much better experience than the blocky output of the original console. And it isn't just an increase in resolution that emulators offer they can also allow games to be run in true widescreen mode that never supported it natively. That's right even N64 games can now be played in true widescreen. But it doesn't end there, emulators also allow you to use basically any controller you want for any system. Want to use an Xbox One controller to play N64 and Gamecube? No problem! Or if you want more or an original feel there are a plethora of USB controllers modeled after the original controllers for many systems including 2D retro consoles like the NES and SNES and 3D systems like the N64 and Gamecube. Although why you'd want to force yourself to use an N64 controller is beyond me. Finally is the big question everyone is saying "but Classic80sStuff roms are illegal" Well technically you're right and I'm not going to suggest you go out and download a bunch of roms. But consider this what is a bigger crime? Downloading a game like Panzer Dragoon Saga which has never been re-released in any fashion for play on an emulator? Or forking over up to ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS for an original copy to a seller on Ebay. Keep in mind none of the original developers are getting any money from an Ebay sale. So while I can't go tell you to go download roms I'd suggest you use your best judgement. If you liked this comment, look for me in other random videos. I'm the guy who types wayyy too long comments that 90 percent of people won't read. Until next time, keep those tape heads clean and de-magnetized!
I'm older than LTT guys but not a fan of retro gaming. The only game I emulated was to try out ChronoTrigger around ten years ago or more. turns out it is amazing technically, gameplay, and rpg.
As soon as you said they were caught up on backlog I immediately went and checked the website (which I'm sure everyone else did to) and by the time I got to the site EVERYTHING was sold out, and on the mega-sg page it still says "Sold out, shipping q2 2023". Yikes. I'm not so sure about that caught up on backlog bit.
actually those games were on the original pc engine....... y's was on engine cd rom, it was the launch cd title... before the turbo duo or super grafix was created... i know as i have them in my loft....
You're talking about a $420 purchase (Pocket + Dock + Adapter) for something that can only play half the PCE library. Pocket is cool but if you're looking for PCE games the Duo is a way better purchase.
David talks about how he likes it to plug and play and then just gushes about all the options xD. Ill stick with my MisTer, never gonna own any real Turbografx games at the prices they are now & I get access to so kmany more systems. Would love to know the input lag for the controllers on the Analog Duo.
Pretty sure it outsold the NES at one point. For like 1-2 years the PC Engine had the highest console install base in Japan. That is which for a few years there were PILES of CD games that released on it over there at one point and kept getting updated.
Still not sure why popele would get these dedicated consoles (at them outragious prices) vs just getting a mini pc with emulator. Smoe hardware might have *slight* advantages over emulators but I dont think it is in a impactful way and you have much more customizability on emulators.
With an FPGA it is possible to not be emulation, i'm not saying this is bare metal, but that it is possible with an FPGA with reverse engineering and designing the FPGA to do the same things the original hardware did without translating it to some other instruction set
if your going to use a third party C adaptor get ones that are rated for PD 3.0 at this point its nmot even worth looking at non PD chargers at all the price difference isn't even all that much
I'm shocked it actually uses higher USB-C power. Most things like that are A to C only and only accept 2.5 watts. For some reason they reject C only power.
Also you say the FPGA is emulation. Depending on what they did, it should be a 1:1 hardware descriptor using circuitware. Emulation is done in software. Circuitware is not software. If they are able to copy the hardware descriptor sufficiently, then it is the same as if they had that. Remember when various companies moved their systems from discrete components to a system on chip but had the same compatibilities? You didn't call that emulation and it was basically the same.
"You can get PC Engine for cheap but they look like a smoker ate them and spat them out." And that's why you get the PC Engine CoreGrafx instead. That's the black re-issue that has RCA instead of RF. I got one a few years ago mainly to play Nectaris (Military Madness). At least back then it was even cheaper to import than the original release PC Engine. Looks cooler and doesn't give you second hand lung cancer, what's not to love?
It took the hat for me to put my finger on it..... Tanner has a very Frank Rossitano from 30 Rock vibe. Not meant as insult, nor necessarily as a positive, though it is for me. That's a dude I could hang with no problem though I can see someone who only sees whats on the surface not getting it kinda vibe.
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MiSTer is recreation or simulation of hw. Not emulation. It's not capable to recreate up to a ps 3. Second failure. N64 and ps1 is the most it can simulate. Dumbing down technical terms to appeal to a bigger audience shouldn't be the standard of a tech channel. ☮️
Hi Sir, does your analogue duo can play normal sound while connect HDMI to TV?
I and other players met the same problem: the console can't play the normal sound with HDMI on TV, only can play the normal sound by using the external speaker connect to the headphone jack. so I would like to know your console, what's your current firmware version?
I am french and at school there was a franco-japanese guy. One day he invinted me to his home and the PC engine was there. I couldn't believe my eyes how small it was and all the great games it had. I had a blast that day and I have never forget it.
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And played them of small carts.
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The yellowing of those old consoles isn't always from smoking. It happens naturally with age. I've heard tell it's mostly UV from sunlight doing what it does, breaking chemical bonds like a divorce attorney for plastics. (Though smoking doesn't help literally anything.) I've also heard tell you can reverse it with some kind of hydrogen peroxide scrub, but never had occasion to do it myself.
i can back this up, most polymers aren't UV resistent. It is the same today, the industry only pumps in so much phenyl rings as fillers into the polymers as a protector, that they polymer longer holds its intended color and shape. (since phenyl rings also are UV absorbant and getting distroyed by UV).
Retrobrighting, a mixture of peroxide and distilled water that you soak the plastics in then set in UV light (even sunlight works) for a few hours.
I had a midi keyboard that sit in a box for 4 years in a smoke free room and the keys when from white to straight up yellow 😅 It's some off gassing process that cheap plastics have. Hydrogen peroxide / retrobright works but it also damages the plastics to some extend so you can't do that infinitely.
Heat does it as well. Ive got an 2x Amiga 1200s one on my desk and one that was on a shelf near the radiator, it never that yellowed but I had retrobrited it years ago anyway. My desk based machine was fine, but the one on the bottom shelf out of sight by the radiator turned into the most yellowed machine I've ever owned.
bro is writing poetry about consoles getting yellow
10:25 As the owner of an 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth controller, they overlook a lot of things with their controllers. My controller cost $70 USD and at the time the lower tier version, the Ultimate 2.4g, didn't have Hall Effect joysticks and didn't have Bluetooth when it launched at $50 USD. Now the Ultimate 2.4g is essentially the same controller but with way wider device compatibility, Hall Effect sticks, Bluetooth and is cheaper. The only difference in features is the Ultimate Bluetooth having an actual pairing button, Gyro support, and Nintendo player indicator lights. Otherwise the Ultimate 2.4g is far and away the better deal.
Wait, so the 2.4 Ghz version now has bluetooth support and hall effect sticks? Are you sure? I can't find any info on this
Any clue who is gonna pilfer it from inventory tho?
She goes by Emily now@@CromulentCorpse
Emily
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The big ass potato
Andy
Also the PC Engine CD also has a kick ass version of Double Dragon II that's based off of the NES version but with updated graphics and Anime style cut scenes.
I never thought I would hear about PC-Engine stuff on this channel! I really love Blood Wolf, Break In, Bomberman '94, Keith Courage, Daisenpuu and King of Casino.
I have a superNT and love it to death. That said, if I bought any FPGA console these days it would just be a mister. Especially at that price.
Yeah man the mister kicks ass, its the most played console in our house and we own everything here
Someday itll be retro time again. Gonna be mad hyped when it is. (David is also great. Just gotta respect the OG)
I have to say I have been absolutely loving all of the videos David has been in lately
his killing it!
Yeah, love that he usually shows products that can play retro games with modern convenience
I'm super excited for Analogue's N64 they're releasing later this year. I've got a stack of N64 games, but I don't have space for a CRT. I could probably grab a Retro-tink (and probably still will at some point), but I'm really interested to see AnalogueOS on the Analogue3D, as I really like AnalogueOS on my Pocket and want to see what people do with it on a much more powerful console with thumbstick support. Also, native 4k support and no region lock. Also also, the 8bit-do controller they tease at the bottom of the Analogue3D page looks pretty great (though I'm actually a bit of a fan of the original n64 controller, even if it might just be nostalgia goggles.)
I've heard that, in the theme of it being "duo", this time they'll be shipping out units in the double digits.
Dungeon Explorer II on the CD addon of the TG16/PCE is probably one of the best Gauntlet-style games of all time, and it has a kick-ass soundtrack too. Anyone looking at this should check it out. It can be played solo but it actually has support for up to 5 (yes, five) players. It's sick
I feel like having tech quickies to reference about hardware emulation and FPGAs would help a lot where the details dont have time to be fleshed out here (and possible missed with how quick the remarks are being done).
Turbographics + Bomberman = Best dorm room drinking game of all time. Highly recommend.
Good hosting btw, nice to see some different people talk about their hobbies
These have to be the two nerdiest men alive. That dude who pops in 2/3rd of the way into the video is hilarious, looks like he’s hasn’t bought new clothes since high school. And the whole scene with y’all analyzing the CD condition, priceless. Truly nerdery at it’s finest. I love it.
My cousin and I played so much air zonk when we were kids. Every time I would talk about it none of my friends knew anything about it. It's really cool to see this return.
love fpga consoles, love the aesthetic and cleanliness of analogue, hate their marketing. $250 with no controller when its going for retro console feel is craaazy
David’s been doing a lot of retro gaming content lately. Maybe I’m out of the loop, but where’s Emily been? Didn’t this used to be her area of expertise?
Ever since she came out then she's barely been on camera,probably just so she doesn't have to deal with the comments that will inevitably come.
I have wondered the same thing but @@BelacDarkstormis probably right. Being a trans person on the Internet sucks, it's probably worse if you're on a big TH-cam channel
Yeah pretty sure she mentioned that last time she was on camera. Definitely miss hearing her tho
From the US and had a TurboGrafx-16. Games were those little card looking things. Anyone remember Splatterhouse?
The device has a beautiful color. Lost to mostly black cases.
Makes me want to fulfill my Ninja Spirit addiction. Legendary Axe, Keith Courage, and Slaughterhouse! Bring back the nostalgia!
Not sure the controller not included complaint holds any weight, considering the plethora of ways to connect nearly any controller you already have.
I still have my original turbo due… love it!
Super cool deep dive on this product!
I'll forgive you for thinking Ys "started on" the Turbo Grafx because you almost pronounced it correctly. It actually started a little earlier in the PC88/MSX/NES era.
When can we have Emily back?! We miss her!
You’re thinking of Anthony and he’s not coming back. “Emily” killed him.
As a non-turbogrfx fan, I am so tempted to get the Analogue Duo. I purchase their NT, and SuperNT and Mega systems, but I also own physical game carts for NES, SNES, and Genesis. Turbogrfx is the only console I don’t own any games for. Scouring eBay, those darn games are EXPENSIVE!
I would have been more interested to get one if I own games. From my experience with their other SKUs, if you want the best console to play physical games with native digital video out in HDMI, Analogue products are unbeatable.
Analogue is working on a N64 compatible product, and I do own a few N64 GamePaks, so I’m definitely interested in that once it’s available for order.
PC Engine games are cheaper. I generally find a ma and pop shop I like and buy a big box of games. For Ebay, I would wait for sellers to make you offers. Generally I stick close to the prices on price charting and make offers when I get.
i love mine especially now with jailbreak... having all games that exist in a single sd card and playing them fpga is really nice
I had a TurboGrafx 16 and loved it. I wish I had all those old games still.
The turbo switches do not work when the recommended 8bitdo controller is connected directly to the Duo console. This is a terrible oversight in my opinion and nobody else seems to notice it.. And when the controller is paired using the dongle you can't adjust the switches individually. The procedure to adjust the turbo switches is also very tedious and the documentation from both 8bitdo and Analogue on this topic is pretty much worthless.
Friends and family know I have retro games, and like to play them when they're over. I wouldn't dream of giving my kids/friends/family a "MiSTer experience". I love my Analogue devices.
I love the 80s-accurate ivory color of the JP model. CRT filter is the best I've seen so far, anywhere. Still waiting for save state updates though!
Save state update released a couple days ago!
I thought the two presenters was referred to as the Analogue duo 🤣🤣
No controllers is really annoying. Also I wish the controller port for OG controllers was on the front for my setup. My current TG-16 setup is A/V going into a RetroTink and a fully loaded Everdrive. I love it!
Anyone else notice how Tanner uses his right hand on the controller?
I dont understand
Pc engine LT is like a laptop monitor thats similar to the old ps1 ones you could get. Pc engine gt is the Japan release of the handheld turbo express
LTT's Vessi ads are so funny lol "Vessi CLAIMS they're shoes are waterproof" LTT is the only channel saying it like that. lol Honestly props to LTT for trying to tell us the truth.
What a convincing title to a product that's the same chips you've been sold four different ways only with an optical drive in it this time. Honestly unless you've got some requirement to plug plastic into plastic, PC Engine's been solved for a decade now, and you can do everything this is doing and more on a $30 used RPi4 1GB. If you step up to the $50 4GB model and apply a minor overclock, it even makes a convincing Dreamcast. If Analogue knew how to scale properly I wouldn't give them so much shit. But they don't, they've been operating on FOMO for at least four generations of FPGA devices now, and it's tiresome to see people buy out their stock to list it for double plus on ebay.
@08:02 "including the SuperGrafX games. There was like 16 of them that were made". 5 SuperGrafX were made. Then there is an additional 1/2 which could use some SuperGrafX gfx capabilities.
I WAS waiting for Mars FPGA - but no way I'm going to give that company money until the product is in the hands of the first buyers.
The questions are always what do you want something to do or do you expect out of it and what are you willing to pay.
Once you come to terms with those two questions then it's just a matter of ease of use and stuff like that. I still prefer for the pocket 100% I just don't see the point in this unless you are using physical games in which case this is the choice to go with I guess.
But I've never against more options and more choices, bring it on, the more the merrier.
Gradius II on CD was amazing
If Analogue ever make a multi console, that plays the main 8/16/32-Bit consoles and arcade cabs, with real cart and CD support, I'd be very interested, it would have to have realchip audio support though, with legit OPL2/3/MIDI/Chiptune audio hardware built-in, a high-quality audio DAC and DSP, with full 36-Bit analogue video output options, they could get away with a HQ DSP & an all-in-one synth audio processor with specific audio codecs for each system. FPGA is not very good at audio generation, it's great for pre-sampled/sequenced audio, but you need either a fast RISC or X86 CPU for good audio emulation, and better yet a legit audio ASIC or DP, which have processors designed to crunch and process audio properly without artefacts, jitter, clipping, popping, timing issues and so on.
I know youtube comments are a cesspool but I would love to see Emily back!
who?
I wouldn't mind a follow up to this about the RetroTink4K for upscaling the 1080p signal to various 4K resolutions.
I'll only buy one of those FPGA based custom consoles when they add PS2, Dreamcast and Game Cube to them.
As soon as there is a digital output we don‘t really need a FPGA console. With a modded Wii U you can play GameCube games. Not from disc though (I think). N64 is coming (from Analogue and to Mister)…
There is still a use since all hardware will die someday. I’m honestly still waiting for an fpga psp even though I have a Ps Vita.
@@yoshikinanami7434 well, that's certainly better. PS Vita can't hold 30 FPS on tons of games. A better version would be ideal.
@@The_Affable_Grump It's not about the output. It's about the 1:1 hardware emulation so you can have all consoles in one and the ability to use ROMS, all of it while having no added input lag and slow downs from these software emulators. Now, if you think FPGA can't achieve that with PS2, Dream Cast and Game Cube, that's something else entirely.
@@CeceliPS3 It will be a lot more complicated. But those FPGA wizards are making good progress with the N64 which is supposed to be a more difficult system... But in the future it will require a much more powerful FPGA, as well. I think this might be the biggest problem as it has to be at a good price or it doesn't make to much sense as no one will be interested.
Dude took the product out of the box and shook it like it owed him money
Me, under 25 and not a Retro games guy, listening to the first minute: ""ah, so the yabadu, whis is actually the hibbeatata, was the predecessor of the uiuiuiuiui, while in the east devices like the frrrrrrrrrrrrr where more popular. Interesting!"
Me under 25 understanding everything that was said. I'm so cool 😎
Analogue Pocket + MiSTER is the FPGA combo that satisfies all my needs
The original Double Dragon DID flicker!!
listening to you talking about playing with your Mister made me giggle like a hecking child, 10/10
There has never been a better time to be a gamer. And a big part of that is all these amazing emulators that we have now. You can play pretty much any game for any system whether it be Atari,NES,PS1,Dreamcast,Gamecube and even Switch! Now your more modern consoles (non Nintendo) from around the 8th generation onward don't really have usable emulators yet. But even Xbox 360 and PS3 emulation has come a long way with many games fully playable. Not only are emulators easy to use and more convenient then having a room full of cartridges and discs but they can also make your games look wayyy better than they ever could on the original console. For example 3D systems like the Dreamcast,PS2,Gamecube and Wii run at a resolution of about 640x480. This may have been fine for playing Quake on a CRT on your PC in the late 90s but in today's world with modern flatscreens it looks terrible and muddy. Emulators can increase that resolution to 1080p,4K and even 8K if you have a system and monitor that can handle it. It takes those old blurry games with jagged edges due to poor anti-aliasing and turns them into crisp crystal clear gaming experiences. You will be amazed at just how much better the games look running at such a higher resolution. Even the low res PS1 games running a 320x240 can be cleaned up quite a bit giving you a much better experience than the blocky output of the original console. And it isn't just an increase in resolution that emulators offer they can also allow games to be run in true widescreen mode that never supported it natively. That's right even N64 games can now be played in true widescreen. But it doesn't end there, emulators also allow you to use basically any controller you want for any system. Want to use an Xbox One controller to play N64 and Gamecube? No problem! Or if you want more or an original feel there are a plethora of USB controllers modeled after the original controllers for many systems including 2D retro consoles like the NES and SNES and 3D systems like the N64 and Gamecube. Although why you'd want to force yourself to use an N64 controller is beyond me. Finally is the big question everyone is saying "but Classic80sStuff roms are illegal" Well technically you're right and I'm not going to suggest you go out and download a bunch of roms. But consider this what is a bigger crime? Downloading a game like Panzer Dragoon Saga which has never been re-released in any fashion for play on an emulator? Or forking over up to ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS for an original copy to a seller on Ebay. Keep in mind none of the original developers are getting any money from an Ebay sale. So while I can't go tell you to go download roms I'd suggest you use your best judgement. If you liked this comment, look for me in other random videos. I'm the guy who types wayyy too long comments that 90 percent of people won't read. Until next time, keep those tape heads clean and de-magnetized!
Analog + Ever Drive is the perfect Duo.
Rondo of Blood is sooooo good.
13:20 N64 core is done now and runs fantastic on mister
I'm older than LTT guys but not a fan of retro gaming. The only game I emulated was to try out ChronoTrigger around ten years ago or more. turns out it is amazing technically, gameplay, and rpg.
Turbogrfx is also an underrated Ye album
As soon as you said they were caught up on backlog I immediately went and checked the website (which I'm sure everyone else did to) and by the time I got to the site EVERYTHING was sold out, and on the mega-sg page it still says "Sold out, shipping q2 2023". Yikes. I'm not so sure about that caught up on backlog bit.
Got 4 minutes in, and I remember I am usually priced out of these devices. Jumped ahead and was relatively surprised.
actually those games were on the original pc engine....... y's was on engine cd rom, it was the launch cd title... before the turbo duo or super grafix was created... i know as i have them in my loft....
Mister FPGA for everything up through the PSX/N64 era, then PC software emulation for everything else...
The Analogue Pocket, with the dock, and the TG16 adapter, is pretty similar (missing CD), plus let's you play so many other systems, and is portably.
You're talking about a $420 purchase (Pocket + Dock + Adapter) for something that can only play half the PCE library. Pocket is cool but if you're looking for PCE games the Duo is a way better purchase.
I am not an enjoyer of analog consoles and that kind of things, but that seems a very well built device. I am impressed.
FPGA does hardware emulation. There is no comparison to software emulation.
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I have two analogue pockets and it’s amazing
Speaking of mister I'd like to see a video covering the recent updates in the mister ecosystem such as the tapto nfc reader.
Spicole: "I know that dude!"
David talks about how he likes it to plug and play and then just gushes about all the options xD. Ill stick with my MisTer, never gonna own any real Turbografx games at the prices they are now & I get access to so kmany more systems. Would love to know the input lag for the controllers on the Analog Duo.
Waiting for Analogue's N64 console to be seen more.
Why not use a usb power hub for day to day use and switch to the recommended when doing anything critical like firmware updates.
The Bonk series is wild!
Pretty sure it outsold the NES at one point. For like 1-2 years the PC Engine had the highest console install base in Japan.
That is which for a few years there were PILES of CD games that released on it over there at one point and kept getting updated.
Still not sure why popele would get these dedicated consoles (at them outragious prices) vs just getting a mini pc with emulator.
Smoe hardware might have *slight* advantages over emulators but I dont think it is in a impactful way and you have much more customizability on emulators.
YES! LTT MENTIONED THE YS SERIES!
Did you guys put a ridge wallet on the ground while filming b roll for the Vessi advert?
With an FPGA it is possible to not be emulation, i'm not saying this is bare metal, but that it is possible with an FPGA with reverse engineering and designing the FPGA to do the same things the original hardware did without translating it to some other instruction set
This is the kinda content Anthony would be the host.
I had a Turbo Grafx 16 growing up and it was better than Sega and nintendo at the time. It was way under appreciated.
if your going to use a third party C adaptor get ones that are rated for PD 3.0 at this point its nmot even worth looking at non PD chargers at all the price difference isn't even all that much
"Legally backed up" lol
"100% LEgit" on those CDs had me in tears... haha
Sure !
Well you forgot to mention the controllers need the pocket firmware flashed to then to work correctly and there is only 5 Super grafx games.
The 8 Bit Do controllers are fine, but I miss the Turbo Pads
Thankfully the mini one they released a few years ago came with USB versions of them
Those USB controllers cost over $100 used nowadays. You're better off buying the originals from the 90s.
I'm shocked it actually uses higher USB-C power. Most things like that are A to C only and only accept 2.5 watts. For some reason they reject C only power.
3:25. Dude your wingspan ain't 3ft. Proves that Canadians can only measure in "canadian attack cobras/geese", "maple syrup" and "ER wait times"
Starts 5:00
There were only five SuperGrafx games released.
I take umbrage with calling that a volume rocker. It does not rock, it's a wheel.
Also you say the FPGA is emulation. Depending on what they did, it should be a 1:1 hardware descriptor using circuitware. Emulation is done in software. Circuitware is not software. If they are able to copy the hardware descriptor sufficiently, then it is the same as if they had that. Remember when various companies moved their systems from discrete components to a system on chip but had the same compatibilities? You didn't call that emulation and it was basically the same.
It is a fairly complete package for a great system
"You can get PC Engine for cheap but they look like a smoker ate them and spat them out."
And that's why you get the PC Engine CoreGrafx instead. That's the black re-issue that has RCA instead of RF. I got one a few years ago mainly to play Nectaris (Military Madness). At least back then it was even cheaper to import than the original release PC Engine. Looks cooler and doesn't give you second hand lung cancer, what's not to love?
I want Analogue to make more of the Pocket.
Finally, someone said it in video, fpga is still emulation.
Who else want to see more retro consoles/games and stuff.
Tanner's entry cracked me up for some reason
You already get a thumbs up for talking about the Turbo Grafx, but you get two thumbs up for projecting Ys correctly.
why no 1440p & 4K output tho
It took the hat for me to put my finger on it..... Tanner has a very Frank Rossitano from 30 Rock vibe. Not meant as insult, nor necessarily as a positive, though it is for me. That's a dude I could hang with no problem though I can see someone who only sees whats on the surface not getting it kinda vibe.