Hey everyone - just the usual explanation that TH-cam's encoding of higher quality 1080p and any 4K encodes at all seems to be very, very slow at the moment. Apologies for the lateness of the higher quality versions - right now, it's out of our control.
Ya, I'm too lazy to go into the console menu to set it to lower resolutions to get 120fps anyway. Maybe if they let you set the console output on a per game basis, rather than just render resolution, I'd try it out so I don't have to constantly go into the console settings to swap resolutions between games. However, since the PS5 doesn't do VRR, and I doubt it will do so over HDMI2.0 like you can with an Xbox or AMD gpu's once they roll it out, I'll stick with a near locked 4k60.
Just here to remind both Sony and Microsoft that neither of your consoles fully support HDMI 2.1. The 60 people who play their PS5's and Series X's on their 8K 120hz TVs are upset (probably, I ain't that rich).
That's gonna depend heavily on the title. I wouldn't expect games with ray-tracing to hit 4K60 on these consoles. Personally what I want is the ability to pick 60FPS no matter what. If the resolution drops to 1440p or even 1080p but i get to keep really high graphical quality and raytracing I will be fine with it.
I grew up playing split screen games, played mario kart 64 and goldeneye so much with friends and family but split screen isnt fun anymore imo, it feels weird and like the screen is too small.
I tell you now borderlands 3 on the xbox one took like 4 minutes to just boot the game up and then another 2 to load your save. With series x it's just 1 minute from booting up to play.
@Link ah yes the port begging race, you know that there are more Pc exclusive games than console exclusivs also most exclusivs can be played trough emulation like breath of the wild in 4k without the fucking bloom and fog. So shut up when you know nothing.
Considering it was designed to play at 1440p 60fps. It mostly comes down to the developers, optimisation and not being lazy. But first party Xbox games will be forced to put in the extra work to optimise both Xbox consoles, which is really all I care about since I’m maining the PS5
The first loading screen where Claptrap moves back and forth almost made me cry ... the bar is gone, he moves twice, and then you're at the menu 😬😬😬 lol
FAO GAME DEVELOPERS and for NOTICE of DF; FOR GODS SAKES CAN WE JUST GET A LOCKED STABLE 60FPS ALREADY ???? 4K ??? REALLY? 120FPS?? REALLY????? How about we get 60FPS/60hz right FIRST EH ?????
The fact that both consoles have already 120fps modes in some games even if they are definitely not stable for both and you can see drops to 90-100fps, is really impressive! I mean, we are talking about consoles here, at the beginning of their generation.... Sony lacks VRR at the moment though, they should bring it to PS5 soon. Although I think the big majority of gamers will prefer the 4K-60fps combo at their games.
Wow, TH-cam really has to do something with it's compression. Text in this 1080p video is turned into a barely readable mush for a couple of seconds especially on camera cuts.
Google are not doing that well with investing in their technology which shows rubbish managerment or they are struggling with money. All the big players have spent alot during covid but Google have done nothing.
google ran out of cheap storage. the reason youtube looks shit now is the same reason google videos is going to stop being unlimited next year. it ain't getting better anytime soon
@@thelarry383 sure except it's beyond pc ultra settings at dynamic 4K and locked 60fps. Meanwhile demons souls has small ps3 environments and only 1440p
The first thing I did in PS5 Splitscreen was have both of us open our menus at the same time. After playing the game on splitscreen on base PS4 I almost cried at how smooth it was! 😂
Consoles ain't running at max settings and on mix of medium high which these consoles are most likely targeting even my 970 manages to get locked 60 fps.
5:03 , 5:39 , 6:21 so ps5 has better graphics and faster load time than XSX/XSS. While XSX has slight advantage in 120fps mode compared to ps5(due to lower graphics).
@Nicholas Indelicato just because the game is running at 4k it doesn't mean that the shadow resolution of the game is at 4k as well. That is just not how dynamic shadows work. The PS5 is clearly running on a higher graphic preset than the Series X. Period.
great, both consoles perform pretty much the same. now we can focus on the games, because both consoles have some amazing 1st and 2nd party titles coming up.
@@jackfisher723 yup. Xbox Series X exclusives so far: Halo Infinite Hellblade 2 Everwild Microsoft Flight Simulator The Medium Scorn Project Mara Crossfire X Tell Me Why Battletoads The Ascent Call of the Sea 12 Minutes Avowed Gears Tactics Dusk Falls Forza Motorsport Second Extinction Martha Is Dead Starfield The Elder Scrolls VI Fable State Of Decay 3 Thr Falconeer The Gunk Warhammer 4k Darktide STALKER 2 Bright Memory Infinite PS5 Exclusives so far: Spider Man Miles Morales Horizon II Godfall Gran turismo 7 Ratchet and Clank Demon Souls Sackboy Project Athia Kena Bridge of spirits God Of War 5 Final Fantasy XVI Returnal Destruction All Stars Deathloop Ghostwire Tokyo Project Athia Amazing time to own both consoles or a PC. :) Don't be a fanboy.
That the grass-preset didnt get changed, doesnt surprise me at all. Gearbox also left a bug that made the HUD scale option on PC for months, so you had to play the game with a way too huge HUD. In addition to that there are also some bugs left that can break the possibility to finish epcific side quests (bounty of blood DLC), the only answer the support provides is: "Play the mission with a person in Coop, who hasn't triggered the bug yet". The game is really fun and enjoyable in Coop, but there are many little technical issues that did never get fixed, sadly.
@@heretotroll.9703 They using the PS4 and Xbox One graphic presets for PS5 ans XSX. Version for XBO has lower grass density. SSD isnt the case in crossgen games.
It’s would be a full port so yeah.. that’s why rocket league getting 120 FPS on XSX like war zone and a load more of Xbox games because it’s just a minor patch and ps5 isnt for now I think
So tldr: ps5 looks a little better in shadows and whatever, slightly better load times. Xsx performs a little better at 120 - both are pretty much the same at 60fps? Got it. Since I own it on PS4 and the upgrade is free, my decision on which new console to get it on was made for me already :P
@@WeCanBeatTheSun Same but on DMC5 the PS5 and XBX had the same fidelity. In this case PS5 has more fidelity, while the XSX has less detail which may be part of the reason.
@@WeCanBeatTheSun the longer we go into this you will see series x continue to pull away devs get to grips. Better frames and VRR mean it's going to look loads better on a supported TV.
@@WeCanBeatTheSun the series x has 5 more fps in 120fps in borderlands because of variable refresh rate which is also coming to PS5 and the series x has lower graphic settings that's another reason
This looks great on my ps5 but it literally shuts my ps5 down about 15 minutes in. I believe this crash is a bug on the developers end. None of my other games lead to ps5 crashes besides Borderlands 3.
It's on sale in the PS Store right now 😍 playing it on PS5 with the 60FPS Resolution Mode, it's an amazing game! The dialogues are so funny 🤣 Action, bazillion different weapons, loot everywhere and a great atmospheric open (or almost open) world 😏
@@thebesttheworst2277there’s good vault hunters u can use that’ll make the story a piece of cake. I use moze she has a mech that u can customize to have different weapons n she melts normal enemies and bosses easy. In the beginning it’ll feel a little slow with the leveling but once you beat the story it ramps up significantly
Technically it is FAR above everything else. Most don't realize how badly alpha effects ( particle effects ) destroy GPUs. You can predetermine scenes when you are just placing buildings and junk but alpha effects are completely gameplay dependant and dynamic. So it is the hardest thing for the GPU to keep up with. So the more you throw around on screen, the more the GPU is going to get worked. Most can't handle it. It is basically testing the bandwidth of a GPU as within a frame the alpha effect has to be loaded into registers, rsn through the pipeline and then rasterized within a frame or two.
@@Keepskatin it's still pretty plain for a cel-shaded game. The particle effects seem pretty tame compared to a lot of other games too. Off the top of my head BFV has zounds particle effects in the campaign tank level and I don't think it runs this poorly.
I really want to see what happens when devs start taking more advantage of the Series X/S with things like VRS. PS5 has an advantage of using the same dev environment as PS4 so PS5 performance is probably going to start higher and level out faster than Series S/X.
So theyre mostly identical, but the Series S has the most stable 60fps mode due to lower resolution, Series X has a tiny bit higher performance in 120fps mode with VRR, and PS5 loads the quickest. But all 3 play great, and that's what's important in the end.
@@BlackTigerAP bruh, until a couple months you were playing at that exact resolution or worse on the PS4 Pro or One X and now it is unplayable? Ridiculous
I respectfully disagree. You can make up that extra 100 you'll spend on the drive version just by buying a few games on the second hand market that cost less than the PS store. By being forced on digital only, ownership concerns aside the entire option of trading your games is removed.
@@andrenascimento9112 No it’s not. Relative performance of cross gen games have always directly indicated relative performance throughout the console’s lifespan. And crashes are to do with a lack of bug fixes and faulty consoles which are very common for all launch consoles.
Is everyone here getting cheques from Sony and Microsoft? What's with these embarrassing ass "my console is clearly the best!" comments? Get a new hobby, LMFAO.
Have to say it's refreshing to see the Series S holding its own and hitting the 1440p fairly well. It's also great to see the big boys getting 120fps even when the dips. Sony really needs to sort out VRR (on PS5 and their TVs).
Sony have already confirmed that a VRR patch is incoming. Considering that it effects so little TV's actually out in the wild is the real crux. These games just need to be better optimized in general. Neither Sony, nor MS can rely on the feature, especially when Digital Foundry is doing comparisons exposing the real performance.
@@kthebarbarian8223 yeah it's good they've said it's coming but really I think they've had plenty of time that it should have been there at launch. I've just picked up the Sony XH9005 TV over black friday and that's also lacking VRR support... So the sooner they sort this out the better for everyone. It's obviously not a deal breaker but it is something Xbox has had for a long time on One X.
Ok just pointing out that even though Series X has an advantage at 120fps this is at lower foliage and less sharpness than PS5 so PS5 is running at higher settings.
Unfortunately, it will keep happening. The cycle will begin again with the ps4/xbox one games being upported to the newer consoles with the same graphic settings
@Callum O'connor Miles morales is a rework of the original game with things added. Definitely not full price but totally a new game (not next gen though)
It's interesting that some games run and look a bit better on PS5. The consoles are so similar performance wise even tho on paper the Series X is better
@@T_OneOneSeven both of them have their advantages. Sure better framepacing and higher dynamic res are more important than grass but both are very good
@@godhand6510 I already have a HIGH SPEED SAMSUNG SSD. So I have no problem in connecting and transfering data from it while I play some heavy titles. Unlike PS5 I can store games in the ssd and play from it or just move it to the internal ssd.
@@paulallen4948 Yeah the ability to add an external storage device is what makes the Series S cool enough to buy in my book if you are not a Visual spectacle demanding type of guy.
Don't forget haptics... They aren't really amazing here but having differing triggers and rumble on PS5 controllers is definitely an advantage. Plus that extra grass and shadow resolution. Series X definitely wins at 120 on this one tho. I'll be interested in seeing PS5 updates for games once they have VRR patched in. They still haven't sent the patch for VRR (or even 120hz) out to their newest TVs yet either tho, so who knows when that will be
So basically the reason why the Xbox has less Foliage is due to Inheriting the last generations version of the game. These consoles are pretty much the same for the game. Although ps5 loads like 3 secs faster.
They stopped the direct comparison on fps to and made a generalized opinion. It’s because they got a lot of heat from Xbox fans and Microsoft. Look at AC Valhalla. Microsoft acknowledged the performance lead ps5 had and then all the sudden they patched the game making the sx run better and the made the ps5 version run worse post patch.
I’ve wanted to hear from someone that’s actually tried it. It’s noticeably different from 60fps? Like is it so cool that I should play this game just for the 120 when I wouldn’t play it otherwise?
@@ChronoMune visually is a little jump from 60fps. But speaking about gameplay is day and night experience. First, you have half ms input than you have with 60fps, so moving, shooting and doing things is way more responsive. Second, it plays like butter, is the same jump you notice from 30 to 60fps, also, if you go back from 120 to 60, 60 looks like a little stuck imagen (until you get use to 60 again). I use a 1440p 144Hz monitor, so sacrifice 4k to have 120 fps is really worthy to me.
I'm glad to see that DF keeps bringing up the importance of VRR as it can be a game changer for many games, not sure why it's taking Sony so long to implement it as you would think it would be quite easy for them to do. I know some gamers will say it's not important because not many have tv's with that support but it matters because if I'm buying a new tv, I would want it with VRR and would want to know if my new console supports it, for now, that's a big advantage the Xbox consoles have, especially on games that target high frame rates but can't maintain it. It's also one of the reasons I've not upgraded my tv yet for my PC because I've not seen any good tv's with VRR support at a reasonable price point and I'm sure not going to upgrade without it lol.
Console devs on optimizing a game to run at 4k60: "We dedicated 3 seperate teams of our top engineers to develop revolutionary techniques that streamlined the transfer of textures and assets at the engine level. That combined with painstaking and groundbreaking research into the unique hardware capabilities of these new machines allowed us to achieve this remarkable, never before seen milestone of fidelity and clarity" PC users: "I turned down shadows"
DF, you guys should take a look at Enlisted game preview on XSX. RT GI, audio, and AO at 4K/60FPS while using MeshShaders, VRS, etc. Seems like a proper next-gen game, albeit a preview.
They did say; The PS5 inherits the PS4 Pro settings and Series X inherits the One X settings. Why it was that way on PS4 Pro and One I can't say. Anyway the most valuable takeaway from this video is that it's great on both.
@@Scimarad yh I like the fact both of them runs the game well but still it's confusing , Xbox One X using a lower preset is even more confusing be cause difference between PS4 Pro and One X was greater than this gen.
@@silvafox07 did u read specs of the two consoles, DF said in Dirt 5 video, that they don't know a reason for PS5 having a better graphics level than Series X , said maybe it's bug. but now they don't talk like that
But it drops almost to 1080p. But yh best game yet for the series S the others have been pathetic. But I would recommend anyone to buy it the problem is its lack of Ram.
Completely unacceptable that Gearbox has never fixed the foliage density issue on One X and now Series S|X! They did literally almost nothing for this “update” it’s all just hardware grunt pushing the older code up to acceptable standards. Might as well just be back compat. Gearbox “Colonial Marines” Software is still as greedy and full of shit as ever.
Yeah annoying. Its not really optimized for next gen at all. Its just the last gen versions brute forced to 60fps and 120fps. I appreciate to make meaningful changes they would need to rewrite alot of code and maybe not release it till summer of 21. But calling this an optimized next gen game is wrong on both systems.
TBH, both looked like a mix of medium/high graphic settings on PC. Which was exactly what they had on last gen consoles. It wouldn't surprise me If all they did was left everything the same and just swapped the resolution/framerate caps and let the grunt of the hardware do the rest.
It's not just a port. If you play the PS4 version on the PS5 through BC you will see the same horrible load times as on PS4. But when you play the PS5 version, the loading is massively improved, so I wouldn't call it just a port. They just kept the graphycal settings.
@Stuffstuffington Stuff What is my system I have all three so please tell me 🤣 It’s just a fact that because of the shitty S my games on the X looking worse then they could . So I stay to my Word the Series S is total BS. Who wants raytracing but also want to play in 900 p? Who wants 60!fps when the games which support 60 Fps are running under HD Ready? That console is a disaster. And normally I wouldn’t care but because it affects my games I say fuck that console .
@@RainingFlow19 dude the xbox one x and ps4 pro couldn't even hit a constant 60fps in Borderlands 3 at 1920×1080,yet the series s plays at a constant 60fps at 2560×1440...
Have just ordered this game for my PS5. I completed it when it came out on PC and despite the constant stuttering, I really enjoyed the game. Tried to play it again with my new RTX 3080 and it could handle 4K 60fps pretty well but I still noticed stutters here and there. Looking forward to trying this out for myself on the PS5.
@@mondaymurder23 Might probably post that at some point although its a bit pointless now. I had a RTX 2080Ti when I first played the game. DX12 was barely playable for me as it just didn't play right, so had to use DX11. With the RTX 3080 it seems either DX12 has improved or the GPU can handle DX12 better. Whatever the case, the stutters are nowhere near as bad as they used to be I can probably re-play the game on PC again, but am interested to see the PS5 version nevertheless, especially since my son seems to want to play splitscreen with me.
I've just received the PS5 version of Borderlands 3 and have played around with it enough to make some conclusions. From a console point of view, this version is much better looking than the previous Xbox One X/PS4 Pro versions as the resolution is indeed higher. The splitscreen is smoother and the whole thing plays nice at both 120hz/1080p and 60hz/4K. I think most people will probably go for 4K/60 as its a good balance. The loading screens are smoother and overall it doesn't feel as jittery as previous gen. Now, from a PC gamer (I own a RTX 3080/I9 10900K PC) having also played this game on PC I find that many of the settings on the PS5 upgraded version are a match for high/medium PC settings. The draw distance for some stuff seems a lot shorter than PC on Ultra/High. Funnily enough I find the DX12 version of Borderlands 3 on PC (DX12 was a mess when they first released the game, but having tried it yesterday I am very, very impressed!) to be a lot smoother than the PS5 version. There are way less dips, less stutters and the game is just better looking/more enjoyable on PC. My RTX 3080 hardly breaks a sweat playing the game now. I would say PC obviously is much better but I think the PS5 version does hold up well. I think corners were definitely cut to get to 60fps at 4K, the game just doesn't look as good as the Ultra or even all High presets. Some may despise TAA as the anti-aliasing tech, but I think it would have done wonders for the console versions. The fact that these console versions use FXAA (At least thats what it looks like) means the PS5 version is way more jagged. Even 1440p on PC using TAA looks far cleaner.
When I switched from Borderlands 3 on Xbox One to Borderlands 3 on PC ultra settings, the difference was night and day.....it was honestly mind blowing. I’ve been wondering how Borderlands 3 would perform on these new consoles for a while now
This is the first title where it actually runs what it was attended for. But unfortunately it won’t last. I think Microsoft advertise this console wrong. Mostly all games it won’t run 120fps. And sometimes it has a hard time achieving 1440p 30fps. Which isn’t good.
@@FlipFlopGod This gen is just getting started. The features that make up the Series X only just arrived to PC. Developers literally don't know how to utilize them. Trust me. You will get your money's worth within the next year.
330gb usuable space? no disc drive. have fun mate. its a dead deal storage alone and subscriptions ensure that. it ismt value dont fool yourself. ps5 digital is literally £50 more. thats a value discless.
Not worth it... let me explain why, the console only comes with around 500gb of storage(~370gb of which is actually usable). You will run out of storage very soon, meaning your likely going to need an expansion,which costs about $200. The console is already $300, add $200 storage and its $500. You might as well get the series x(1TB ~750gb usable) at that point or the ps5 digital edition ($400 and more powerful). Tha'ts my advice:)
@Νίκος Παναγιωτόπουλος same it's unbelievable I have 34 games downloaded just on my internal storage alone 😂 insane loading times and I haven't heard the console once damn I couldn't be happier
The 120fps mode goes from 120 to 30fps for cut scenes... Just how jarring and vomit inducing is that? Anyone experiencing it share your pain (or lack of) please.
This is off topic but, I have a ps5 now and went back to playing fallout 4. Holy shit it plays great now. No frame drops at all the way it should of been on ps4. Enjoy your systems guys. Lol
The fact that it took a PS5 to get it to lock a 30 fps is an embarrassment. Had the PS4 Pro had a better CPU, 1080p 60 fps could've been achieved. Oh well, patch incoming I guess.
@@gamebond6248 I play on PC so I'm not particularly concerned about this. I'm just saying that, it could've been so easy had they ditched that Jaguar CPU for something better when making the PS4 Pro. It still feels like a cash grab... all these years later.
Great video - I'll be getting Borderlands 3 soon on my series X. I wonder though how the updated 'optimisations' compare to running in backwards compatibility mode? It sounds like there wouldn't be much difference if One X already ran uncapped with DRS up to 4k?
I would rather have 1440p at 60fps on Ps5 and series X (This would allow developers to use pc ultra settings as a bonus). Native 4k is complete waste of resources.
Thanks, Tom! I've been waiting for y'all to analyze this one. BL3 is one of my most-played games, and performance on X1X has always been hit or miss; glad to hear Series X handles 60fps better, but I'm still disappointed to see those drops on the frame graph. Thankfully, my screen has VRR from 45hz to 75hz, so I should be good! ;)
It will be great when VRR becomes widely available even on lower-end TVs. Hopefully we see smaller monitors with decent HDR soon, too, for people who like to play at their desk on console or PC. X1X has VRR, I assume that helps on your screen?
The fact that people are suprised that a 10.2 TF console is beating a 12TF console in majority of tests is proof that we are all victims of marketing bs. Mark Cerny & other respected developers warned us about judging performance based solely on GPU because these consoles are put together differently
It's beast dude I have VRR on my Series X and you don't experince any of the stuff you hear happening to Xbox...I can't wait till Sony supports it to though cause my Sony X90h supports it but Sony don't support it yet...waiting to game on my TV with VRR at 120fps!
@@RepublicofODLUM yeah I am using on monitor right now because my TV don't support VRR yet but the Sony X90H supports HDMI 2.1 and Vrr but not atm in a future update similar to PS5. But it will be the future of TV's
@@TheJspan yeah, I bought a vizio e series a few years back. Low end tv but has solid hdr and very good black levels and motion handling, wont be getting a new tv for atleast 2-3 years so I just dont want devs relying on it to stabilize their games. Awesome for people that have it though.
@@RepublicofODLUM I littertly just upgraded bought the TV for black friday 65' for 1k but it has HDMI 2.1 Dolby Vision, HDR 10 it's 120hz and also has Vrr(which is not supported yet until new firmware update) it has everything for the next gen consoles that's why I got it.
Summary: Resolution mode: dynamic 4K/60fps. better shadows and more foliage on PS5 Performance mode: 1080p/120fps, little smoother in series x due to VRR support Both Versions: PS5 loads about 3 seconds faster.
soft shadows is actually an upgrade, I think DF missed this, and it isnt more foliage, its just some extra grass, it doesn't effect trees/shrubs. stop making it sound much worse than it actually is please. people need to know the truth so they can make a decision based on it.
@@DocRobotnik the gameplay isn’t like 2? Just killing enemies and getting mostly junk loot? I feel like in 2 they reserved the best weapons for the chest thing, so it made the gameplay loop too grindy.
@@yoko_bby you can play 1440p as yoy can clearly hear the devs you just can't choose it to be actually set at 1440p but the game can be played at 1440p if thats what it was optimized to do its not that it won't output it its that you can keep the console on 1440p from the menu you clearly hear the devs say its at 1440p on ps5 lol
I purchased this game originally on my PC, and it ran terrible no matter how I adjusted the settings. I didn't make it far on the PC version. I was lucky enough to get my hands on a PS5, and picked this up on Black Friday, and man, what a night and day difference and I am hooked on this game! Great work Gear Box! Great video DF!
@Sam Lloyd-Gale I think you might be able to turn off supersampling atleast that was a feature on ps4 pro and with boost mode on it ran way better. You can watch the DF Kingdom Hearts 3 video where they show this.
No they should not. Xbox S is for people that don't have big expectations for graphics and just want to play their games. Which is ok still but not enough for many.
Look what is doing for 300 bucks it's giving you 120 frames and a lock 60 the PlayStation 4 pro is $400 and it cannot do that the switch can't come close to that it's very impressive for what it's doing
@@float32 wrong. I have a 4K (LG OLED C9, capable of 120hz) and have choosen a series S. The reason? Simple, i am a casual gamer...1440p is all i need.
I’m gonna hold off the the ps5 till we get closer to god of war, apparently there is a design flaw in current ps5’s where the video memory has almost no cooling. Expect updated versions to be made like the ps4 pro.
They were identical this video. With ps5 having slightly faster loads and shadows. XSX did better at 120 fps. The real game changer is VR support. Which at some point everyone will have
Thirty Third to be honest, I quit before getting to the 120FPS part. Assumed another PS5 win. Will check it out. Really hoping MS adds VR; just got a Reverb G2. Could you imagine Forza Motorsport? 😬
Lightmyspliff takeflight My game is Forbidden West. Although I had PS4 and 1X, most of my gaming was on X1 and PC. Bought Zero Dawn on Steam and, glitches and all, still thought it was a masterpiece. I would give anything for a PS5 slim and no memory issues (I know, too early for slim versions). I think it looks better in person, but still not digging it on that department.
Hey everyone - just the usual explanation that TH-cam's encoding of higher quality 1080p and any 4K encodes at all seems to be very, very slow at the moment. Apologies for the lateness of the higher quality versions - right now, it's out of our control.
Nah, it's good 👍
I shall keep the tab open and watch it tomorrow during work then!
I love your videos
It's really starting to taint my enjoyment of this channel. It's ordinarily my favorite so if I had money I'd gladly support the Patreon. 😅
The funny thing is that my PS4 versions of the PS5 games you are discussing usually look superior because of the TH-cam compression (and lack of HDR).
Resolution Mode on 60fps
All i ever wanted
Ya, I'm too lazy to go into the console menu to set it to lower resolutions to get 120fps anyway. Maybe if they let you set the console output on a per game basis, rather than just render resolution, I'd try it out so I don't have to constantly go into the console settings to swap resolutions between games. However, since the PS5 doesn't do VRR, and I doubt it will do so over HDMI2.0 like you can with an Xbox or AMD gpu's once they roll it out, I'll stick with a near locked 4k60.
4k30 was the relative target sweet spot on XboneX last gen.
Now it's 4K 60 as the sweet spot with multiplayer games shooting for dynamic 4K 120.
Nice
yeah 60fps is the sweet spot for me. i hate the blurry look that 1080p or less gives on my lg cx oled
Most shooters will be 4k 60 this gen
Cod was dynamic 4k 60 with rt
@@njdevil6629 not dynamic 4K. More like 1440p at Max with 120fps.
Just here to remind that HDMI 2.1 is NOT needed for 120FPS
Its for 4K at 120
Also required for 1440P @ 120 with HDR (but not without HDR).
Just here to remind both Sony and Microsoft that neither of your consoles fully support HDMI 2.1. The 60 people who play their PS5's and Series X's on their 8K 120hz TVs are upset (probably, I ain't that rich).
@@Briggsian *4K 120 Hz. 8K is only playable at 60 Hz with HDMI 2.1.
HDMI 2.1 is needed for VRR though.
@@01chohan No it's not. The TCL 6-Series has VRR & isn't HDMI 2.1
Getting 15FPS at QHD (Quarter HD) with BL2 on my Vita.
Okay. Thanks for letting us know?
BTW, overclock your Vita.
Vita is life, man! Super underrated platform.
@@jasonandrews7355 Yea it's a system I can confidently say SONY failed.
@Jeric White
Bullshit. Ps4 and x1 versions run at unstable 30 fps.
@@Dev-nr4dw no, its 60 FPS.
Ngl if “ resolution” mode this gen could be 60fps we will all be happy
It can be just go to pc😄
Of course it should hit 60! It’s dynamic resolution 😂😂
@SecretCommie you cant play @ 8k 60fps on any console🤣unless its an old ass arcade game the 3090 can do it so what makes u think these consoles can?
That's gonna depend heavily on the title. I wouldn't expect games with ray-tracing to hit 4K60 on these consoles. Personally what I want is the ability to pick 60FPS no matter what. If the resolution drops to 1440p or even 1080p but i get to keep really high graphical quality and raytracing I will be fine with it.
@@yaboirichard591 It's 1800p 60fps at its lowest. Which itself is pretty close to 4k.
Sad how everyone and their mom has big screen TVs now, but barely get split screen games
@@tenchotenchev5606 get a job
It’s weird on a big screen the screen doesn’t seem big enough
I grew up playing split screen games, played mario kart 64 and goldeneye so much with friends and family but split screen isnt fun anymore imo, it feels weird and like the screen is too small.
Playing this on ps4 pro in horizontal splitscreen is so much fun man. We need more of this shit and hope ps5 brings splitscreen back.
Makes no freakin sense
"... the use of DRS."
me, an ignorant: Drag Reduction System, of course.
Thats why the ps5 loads so fast, its the airodynamic flaps
Thought I was the only one 😂
@@nicoluggi95 hahahahahaha
@@B-Man52 hug me, brother.
@@nicoluggi95 PS5 is within 1 second of Xbox ;)
Now we are in the age where the shadow sharpness is measured to differentiate between two consoles. Good job on both consoles.
Next gen unable to all complain about instability 60fps.
Seriously. Both these machines are fantastic. Great time to be a gamer.
Hmmm..they are playing last gen games. Of course they are gonna play them well. Smh
@@Prodzick just wait a couple of years. We'll be back to 30fps.
@@bern9642 ps6 will save the day before that happens
When you show loading times for patched/ported games, you should also show the last gen times, I feel
I tell you now borderlands 3 on the xbox one took like 4 minutes to just boot the game up and then another 2 to load your save. With series x it's just 1 minute from booting up to play.
@Link cringe
@Link PC better than your trash consoles anyway
Anyway..... totally agree with the original comment. 2 secs hardly matters when it’s been slashed down from 1min+
@Link ah yes the port begging race, you know that there are more Pc exclusive games than console exclusivs also most exclusivs can be played trough emulation like breath of the wild in 4k without the fucking bloom and fog. So shut up when you know nothing.
Man borderlands 3 on my Xbox series x is absolutely beautiful got all my vault hunters maxed out and 100% everything with achievements :)
Yeah I didn't realise you had to put youre 4k hdmi output on enhanced to get 4k 60 and HDR lol, I was absolutely blown away when I flipped the switch.
I was looking forward to this comparison, it's finally here!
Borderlands 3 at 30 fps on last-gen systems was not very nice
No shooter should ever run at 30fps or below
It wasnt very nice even on pc tbh
it was still the better option in couch coop mode.
30fps is acceptable on Switch only
Dont get cyberpunk on console then 😬😬😬
This should be the gold standard for series S, 1440p at 60 fps 👌🏼
That was what they had in mind I think but I doubt it will be very common going forward
1080 60 1440 30
@@vinzig5036 may be with the use of Machine learning. I doubt that this technique is being used on the XSS.
Considering it was designed to play at 1440p 60fps. It mostly comes down to the developers, optimisation and not being lazy. But first party Xbox games will be forced to put in the extra work to optimise both Xbox consoles, which is really all I care about since I’m maining the PS5
@@DocRobotnik if the console is underpowered, it’s underpowered. Developers can’t change that.
I wish this video had a Resolution Mode.
Hehe
It does, there’s a 4K option.
I just love how the new consoles have similar performance. Makes the competition focused on games rather than graphics.
@ SSD Ultra Hiper Fast, Ops...
I love how that means that the ps5 is better with more games. Rip x box. 🪦
@ well, there are indeed... All the back compat games run better on the series X because they are not optimised for any platform.
*PlayStation better*
*Xbox better*
The first loading screen where Claptrap moves back and forth almost made me cry ... the bar is gone, he moves twice, and then you're at the menu 😬😬😬 lol
not even twice lol... 1 and a half... I might jump back in... I stopped around level 30, no reason to not get this upgrade! 🙏🏽
@@opgam3r482 true! That one and a half was sensational 😂😂😂 And I was around that level as well. Definitely going to play it again 😎😎😎
This x1000 save quit farming isn't an undoable nightmare as well
The only missing part is doing a stress test with Grenade Moze, talking about frame drops lol
FAO GAME DEVELOPERS and for NOTICE of DF; FOR GODS SAKES CAN WE JUST GET A LOCKED STABLE 60FPS ALREADY ???? 4K ??? REALLY? 120FPS?? REALLY????? How about we get 60FPS/60hz right FIRST EH ?????
@@fwabble q
@@fwabble Bro there's literally just one next gen game out right now, don't expect much
fwabble for real tho lmao most of these devs can’t even make a completely stable 60 fps game on consoles, 120 fps is a bit questionable but we’ll see
Yup, you start chucking maddening tracker grenades, and there are explosions everywhere with mirvs flying all around......and yeah, frames.
The fact that both consoles have already 120fps modes in some games even if they are definitely not stable for both and you can see drops to 90-100fps, is really impressive!
I mean, we are talking about consoles here, at the beginning of their generation....
Sony lacks VRR at the moment though, they should bring it to PS5 soon. Although I think the big majority of gamers will prefer the 4K-60fps combo at their games.
Hello I'm from the future, VRR for PS5 is here now and it's great :)
Fast forward to this day and consoles can't reach 4K/60.
Im from the future future. Games struggle to hit near 60 because ray tracing
@@dri_him
I wished my 32in viotek curve monitor supported VRR😭
Mine is a stable 120hz 😂
The dual sense is pretty cool with the different effects for different guns. A pistol really feels like you're pulling a trigger.
Wow, TH-cam really has to do something with it's compression. Text in this 1080p video is turned into a barely readable mush for a couple of seconds especially on camera cuts.
Yeah gameplay videos at 1080p is generally really bad. 4K is what we all need, and that's even for those poor souls that still rocking a 1080p screen.
The compression has gotten ALOT worse lately
Watch the video in 144p, that solved the problem for me
Google are not doing that well with investing in their technology which shows rubbish managerment or they are struggling with money. All the big players have spent alot during covid but Google have done nothing.
google ran out of cheap storage. the reason youtube looks shit now is the same reason google videos is going to stop being unlimited next year. it ain't getting better anytime soon
This is impressive, I hope more next gen games go for 60fps!
Pretty much all of them have, so far. Except Watch Dogs Legion!
I really hope it'll be the new standard. It seems to be Microsoft's target so I went with the series x.
This isn’t a Next Gen game........ 🤔
Isn't it current gen since the consoles are out now?
Btw yeah this game isn't next gen
Demon Souls is a next gen game made ground up for ps5. Can it do 4k60? Haven't checked it.
Do Dreams on PS5
I heard they had a significant performance enhancement
Still looks better than Halo infinite
@@rayyanamir8560 bruh halo might look ass but did you see gears 5 optimized for xsx?
@@glerdoskk6149 nothing changed 🤣
@@glerdoskk6149 yeah. there's an extra trash bin.
@@thelarry383 sure except it's beyond pc ultra settings at dynamic 4K and locked 60fps.
Meanwhile demons souls has small ps3 environments and only 1440p
The first thing I did in PS5 Splitscreen was have both of us open our menus at the same time. After playing the game on splitscreen on base PS4 I almost cried at how smooth it was! 😂
You can use dualshock 4 right? Sony made a huge misstep not allowing DS4 on ps5 games. That's another $210 for controllers.
Happy to hear they got rid of this problem. Was so annoyed playing this with my wife.
@@vandammage1747 stfu
@@vandammage1747
So Pocket change 😉
@@vandammage1747 it’s called friends, they just bring their controller over when we want to play together
Wow, runs really well considering how the game seems somewhat unoptimized on PC
Runs pretty well on PC.
How so? From what I had seen it makes good use of PC GPUs.
Consoles ain't running at max settings and on mix of medium high which these consoles are most likely targeting even my 970 manages to get locked 60 fps.
@@rahulpandey9472 at 4k? Hell no
@@rahulpandey9472 Yeah bullshit, maybe at 1080p
5:03 , 5:39 , 6:21 so ps5 has better graphics and faster load time than XSX/XSS. While XSX has slight advantage in 120fps mode compared to ps5(due to lower graphics).
Once the VRR update is out, wont be a "problem" for PS5 tho.
@Nicholas Indelicato just because the game is running at 4k it doesn't mean that the shadow resolution of the game is at 4k as well. That is just not how dynamic shadows work. The PS5 is clearly running on a higher graphic preset than the Series X. Period.
@Nicholas Indelicato this is a backwards compatible game, it's not using the geometry engine just the basic boosted spec bump
Playing the game on PS5 right now in performance mode. Its amazing and it uses the dualsense which I didn't expect but is great.
Yea the use of Haptics and triggers is pretty great in this game
Playing the game on Series X right now in performance mode with Freesync 😎
U have ps5 and u r playing this?
@@samkal2041 Demon Souls and Borderlands 3 but yeah. It came out around the same time a bunch of other games did so I started it and never finished.
How is the dualsense being used?
great, both consoles perform pretty much the same. now we can focus on the games, because both consoles have some amazing 1st and 2nd party titles coming up.
both?
@@jackfisher723 Yes, both, not just the one you like.
@@jackfisher723 yup.
Xbox Series X exclusives so far:
Halo Infinite
Hellblade 2
Everwild
Microsoft Flight Simulator
The Medium
Scorn
Project Mara
Crossfire X
Tell Me Why
Battletoads
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
12 Minutes
Avowed
Gears Tactics
Dusk Falls
Forza Motorsport
Second Extinction
Martha Is Dead
Starfield
The Elder Scrolls VI
Fable
State Of Decay 3
Thr Falconeer
The Gunk
Warhammer 4k Darktide
STALKER 2
Bright Memory Infinite
PS5 Exclusives so far:
Spider Man Miles Morales
Horizon II
Godfall
Gran turismo 7
Ratchet and Clank
Demon Souls
Sackboy
Project Athia
Kena Bridge of spirits
God Of War 5
Final Fantasy XVI
Returnal
Destruction All Stars
Deathloop
Ghostwire Tokyo
Project Athia
Amazing time to own both consoles or a PC. :) Don't be a fanboy.
@@jackfisher723 yeah, both. xbox has a lot of exciting games coming up (for once).
I rather join the LC Master Race and have superior power gaming better than any console, and all my games ln one system
👑PC MASTER RACE👑
That the grass-preset didnt get changed, doesnt surprise me at all. Gearbox also left a bug that made the HUD scale option on PC for months, so you had to play the game with a way too huge HUD. In addition to that there are also some bugs left that can break the possibility to finish epcific side quests (bounty of blood DLC), the only answer the support provides is: "Play the mission with a person in Coop, who hasn't triggered the bug yet". The game is really fun and enjoyable in Coop, but there are many little technical issues that did never get fixed, sadly.
That's such an indictment on Gearbox. They're a lazy developer.
Probably due to PS5 SSD. it can load textures lighting quick, series X relies on GPU alone. Both amazing upgrades.
@@heretotroll.9703 They using the PS4 and Xbox One graphic presets for PS5 ans XSX. Version for XBO has lower grass density. SSD isnt the case in crossgen games.
Rather disappointing that they are still using the PS4 and Xbox One graphic presets for PS5 and Xbox Series consoles.
Yeah and I think that's why the shadows aren't the same on both consoles
ps3 and xbox 360 u mean?
They are not using the presets of ps4 and xbox one. They are using the presets of the xbox one x. Watch the video and stop spreading misinformation.
It’s would be a full port so yeah.. that’s why rocket league getting 120 FPS on XSX like war zone and a load more of Xbox games because it’s just a minor patch and ps5 isnt for now I think
@@harlenkelly7331 so? xbox one to xbox one x is basically low and medium settings. it isnt impressive dude.
buy a pc, understand it and stop simping
So tldr: ps5 looks a little better in shadows and whatever, slightly better load times. Xsx performs a little better at 120 - both are pretty much the same at 60fps? Got it. Since I own it on PS4 and the upgrade is free, my decision on which new console to get it on was made for me already :P
Odd that the inverse was seen on DMC5 with ps5 performing better in 120fps
@@hugoramallo1980 it’s even shown and mentioned in the video.
@@WeCanBeatTheSun Same but on DMC5 the PS5 and XBX had the same fidelity. In this case PS5 has more fidelity, while the XSX has less detail which may be part of the reason.
@@WeCanBeatTheSun the longer we go into this you will see series x continue to pull away devs get to grips. Better frames and VRR mean it's going to look loads better on a supported TV.
@@WeCanBeatTheSun the series x has 5 more fps in 120fps in borderlands because of variable refresh rate which is also coming to PS5 and the series x has lower graphic settings that's another reason
Who else looks at the comments after clicking lmao
Probably everyone lmao
Watching the video now, checking back in a couple of hours for them extra salty comments.
I just skip comments really
@@Tagilla lmao
I do, and feel equal regret and disgust every time
This looks great on my ps5 but it literally shuts my ps5 down about 15 minutes in. I believe this crash is a bug on the developers end. None of my other games lead to ps5 crashes besides Borderlands 3.
If it makes you feel better, on pc, can't use dx12 coz it crashes right away n even in dx11 getting fatal errors.
Same happened on cold war
It's an utter mess on my Series X in resolution mode.
This is a common problem with the game it’s self, my Xbox one x will crash with borderlands 3 after 3-4 hours of playing.
Looks like everything is crashing right now. Good day to be poor
The haptic feedback In this game makes the ps5 version the best imo.
Yea I want to see the difference when using a Xbox controller and a ps5
Most people turn off vibration for fps games
@@alastor1227 not really! may be that's just you
@@alastor1227 Not anymore. The dualsense controller is something else bro
@@alastor1227 Maybe for competitive games like Siege, but who's turning off vibration on a non-competitive looter shooter like Borderlands 😂
It's on sale in the PS Store right now 😍 playing it on PS5 with the 60FPS Resolution Mode, it's an amazing game! The dialogues are so funny 🤣 Action, bazillion different weapons, loot everywhere and a great atmospheric open (or almost open) world 😏
Can someone that hates bullet sponge enemies in any game enjoy it ?
@@thebesttheworst2277 yes absolutely
@@Jactional how ?
@@thebesttheworst2277 you can 1 shot with pistol on head
@@thebesttheworst2277there’s good vault hunters u can use that’ll make the story a piece of cake. I use moze she has a mech that u can customize to have different weapons n she melts normal enemies and bosses easy. In the beginning it’ll feel a little slow with the leveling but once you beat the story it ramps up significantly
All 3 consoles are performing impressive. Damn next Gen is insanely good
It is 😁. Too bad there's no 30fps with ultra settings or so but in Borderlands it's ok I guess since the look isn't that realistic anyway 😅
Again I'm watching the 120fps mode and the PS5 is regularly staying relatively steady ( >110 ) while seeing in the same spot the SX dropping down to
“yet here we are”
So is it just me or is it weird that everybody benchmarks this game that performs terribly for how it looks?
Looks like a cartoon game to me, not realistic like Rainbow Six or Gears of Wars
Technically it is FAR above everything else.
Most don't realize how badly alpha effects ( particle effects ) destroy GPUs. You can predetermine scenes when you are just placing buildings and junk but alpha effects are completely gameplay dependant and dynamic. So it is the hardest thing for the GPU to keep up with. So the more you throw around on screen, the more the GPU is going to get worked. Most can't handle it.
It is basically testing the bandwidth of a GPU as within a frame the alpha effect has to be loaded into registers, rsn through the pipeline and then rasterized within a frame or two.
@@aaronh248 Stop finessing.
That's a really dumb assumption to make. Being "realistic" doesn't mean it will be more demanding
@@Keepskatin it's still pretty plain for a cel-shaded game. The particle effects seem pretty tame compared to a lot of other games too. Off the top of my head BFV has zounds particle effects in the campaign tank level and I don't think it runs this poorly.
I really want to see what happens when devs start taking more advantage of the Series X/S with things like VRS. PS5 has an advantage of using the same dev environment as PS4 so PS5 performance is probably going to start higher and level out faster than Series S/X.
So theyre mostly identical, but the Series S has the most stable 60fps mode due to lower resolution, Series X has a tiny bit higher performance in 120fps mode with VRR, and PS5 loads the quickest. But all 3 play great, and that's what's important in the end.
100%
Better detail on ps5 as well
you forgot to mention ps5 has better graphics,better shadow resolution and vegetation density and slightly better texture quality.
Seems like PS5 is the best across the board. I'm struggling to understand how as well with the large difference in CUs on the PS5/Series X.
@@glorious240fps6 they literally all look the same but okay
Series S looking good here...
Are you blind? Seriously.
@@BlackTigerAP It's respectable for a $300 system
@B G
Define "normal TV"
@@phloppywhoppy7476 a TV made before 2019. You dummy
@@BlackTigerAP bruh, until a couple months you were playing at that exact resolution or worse on the PS4 Pro or One X and now it is unplayable? Ridiculous
More of these test come out the more it shows that the digital PS5 is the best valued system.
cap
Agree
I have ps5 digital edition and i bean saying it buy digital 400 console
Not quite what they said in the video, but hey.
I respectfully disagree. You can make up that extra 100 you'll spend on the drive version just by buying a few games on the second hand market that cost less than the PS store. By being forced on digital only, ownership concerns aside the entire option of trading your games is removed.
Looks like the ps5 had a lot more juice than everyone thought.
Nah.. it's just Da ToOlz🤣
It's to early to say something.. And ps5 has to many hardware problems those artifacts and crashes.. Hummm.. Those are because of the overclock..
It's the better system. 2021 launches will leave the XBox eating dust.
@@andrenascimento9112 No it’s not. Relative performance of cross gen games have always directly indicated relative performance throughout the console’s lifespan.
And crashes are to do with a lack of bug fixes and faulty consoles which are very common for all launch consoles.
@@andrenascimento9112 lol, Someones Salty
Is everyone here getting cheques from Sony and Microsoft? What's with these embarrassing ass "my console is clearly the best!" comments? Get a new hobby, LMFAO.
Ps5> Xbox
For real, I have both and enjoy both.
@@LloydChristmas08 double dipping on those cheques
bUt mY piEcE oF pLaStiC iS bETteR tHaN yOuRs
@@antoniosanichar943 True Sony exclusives 😍😍😍😍😍😍 TRASHbox sucks
Have to say it's refreshing to see the Series S holding its own and hitting the 1440p fairly well.
It's also great to see the big boys getting 120fps even when the dips. Sony really needs to sort out VRR (on PS5 and their TVs).
Sony have already confirmed that a VRR patch is incoming. Considering that it effects so little TV's actually out in the wild is the real crux.
These games just need to be better optimized in general. Neither Sony, nor MS can rely on the feature, especially when Digital Foundry is doing comparisons exposing the real performance.
@@kthebarbarian8223 yeah it's good they've said it's coming but really I think they've had plenty of time that it should have been there at launch.
I've just picked up the Sony XH9005 TV over black friday and that's also lacking VRR support... So the sooner they sort this out the better for everyone.
It's obviously not a deal breaker but it is something Xbox has had for a long time on One X.
I'd rather have 1080p 120fps on my series s with B3 😭
Ok just pointing out that even though Series X has an advantage at 120fps this is at lower foliage and less sharpness than PS5 so PS5 is running at higher settings.
Well, it's running ps4 pro settings.
Well if gear box actually fixed the Xbox version and added the foliage like they said they were going to do but failed on that end
I hope you guys continue doing these videos later this gen when developers can really take advantage of these amazing pieces of hardware
I think they are considering closing the channel and moving to Onlyfans.
Well. Turns out this is when optimization peaked lol
so they just copy-pasted the last gen settings and applied them here, ruining the grass quality on the XsX, smh I hope this stops happening next year.
Unfortunately, it will keep happening. The cycle will begin again with the ps4/xbox one games being upported to the newer consoles with the same graphic settings
What were you expecting? A remake for free?
No that's just the power of the world's powerful console
@Callum O'connor Miles morales is a rework of the original game with things added. Definitely not full price but totally a new game (not next gen though)
@@Soremwar Wait was this a free update for people that already owned the game or did they charge for this?
It's interesting that some games run and look a bit better on PS5. The consoles are so similar performance wise even tho on paper the Series X is better
Series X is weak 🤣🤣
When tables turn...
@@chordkeys thank you Chad Warden
@@chordkeys it's not weak by any means. Both consoles are powerful
he said it's inherited from the old consoles, i guess it's because the original xbox one was weak
@@T_OneOneSeven both of them have their advantages. Sure better framepacing and higher dynamic res are more important than grass but both are very good
Was getting a series s and worried it would do bad for my 1080p monitor. Df saved me by uploading this video. Looks great af
Just get the x the lack of storage is just bad on the s and if you ugrade your storage you already spent the money for an x (with more storage)
@@godhand6510 I already have a HIGH SPEED SAMSUNG SSD. So I have no problem in connecting and transfering data from it while I play some heavy titles. Unlike PS5 I can store games in the ssd and play from it or just move it to the internal ssd.
@@paulallen4948 Yeah the ability to add an external storage device is what makes the Series S cool enough to buy in my book if you are not a Visual spectacle demanding type of guy.
Don't forget haptics... They aren't really amazing here but having differing triggers and rumble on PS5 controllers is definitely an advantage. Plus that extra grass and shadow resolution.
Series X definitely wins at 120 on this one tho. I'll be interested in seeing PS5 updates for games once they have VRR patched in. They still haven't sent the patch for VRR (or even 120hz) out to their newest TVs yet either tho, so who knows when that will be
@@UberNoodle yeah hopefully! Dirt 5 needs some major patching done, looks like Valhalla already got a pretty good patch. Both consoles are beastly
Update info: Sony released the VRR patch for their high end OLEDs recently. A week ago to be exact....
So basically the reason why the Xbox has less Foliage is due to Inheriting the last generations version of the game. These consoles are pretty much the same for the game. Although ps5 loads like 3 secs faster.
Which you wouldn't even notice during normal gameplay unless you were timing it.
Isn't it the same for ps5?
@@RealCGH yea that’s why the ps5 has more foliage since the ps4 was stronger than the original Xbox one.
@@g3neralcross911 ... Weird how 2k didn't bother making different graphics presets for 60fps mode
I was just watching a frame rate test of the next generation versions of this game before I got the notification of this video.
u... şu... u
When the resolution mode runs at 60fps🙂
Good times :)
Tom looks blankly are you
Well, given it's a 2019 game...
Why no counting of the lowest counted resolutions on each platform? :/
Conspiracyyyyyyyy!
Because of Sony plums 😀
They stopped the direct comparison on fps to and made a generalized opinion. It’s because they got a lot of heat from Xbox fans and Microsoft. Look at AC Valhalla. Microsoft acknowledged the performance lead ps5 had and then all the sudden they patched the game making the sx run better and the made the ps5 version run worse post patch.
Yerp. Definitely conspiracy.
Cause PS5 was lowest.
Underrated next gen improvements, 120fps are sooooo good in this game
I’ve wanted to hear from someone that’s actually tried it. It’s noticeably different from 60fps? Like is it so cool that I should play this game just for the 120 when I wouldn’t play it otherwise?
@@ChronoMune visually is a little jump from 60fps. But speaking about gameplay is day and night experience.
First, you have half ms input than you have with 60fps, so moving, shooting and doing things is way more responsive.
Second, it plays like butter, is the same jump you notice from 30 to 60fps, also, if you go back from 120 to 60, 60 looks like a little stuck imagen (until you get use to 60 again).
I use a 1440p 144Hz monitor, so sacrifice 4k to have 120 fps is really worthy to me.
Thanks! Now I can’t decide between performance mode and resolution mode. I have a 120hz tv
@@XGARXS Play a while with best visuals (4k 60Hz), then go 120Hz, that's where the answer is revealed
@@eliteshergio7375 what platfrom are you playing on my series x has major fps drop on certain areas in performance mod do you have the same problem
You should've also mentioned the Dualsense support, it has one of the best implementations of adaptive triggers so far.
I mentioned this about Digital Foundry last week. Why are they not mentioning the Dualsense features? I find this weird
Because it “wouldn’t be fair” since Xbox has had the same controller since 2013 (minus the share button upgrade one later on.
What can you do with the Dualsense in this game? Nice to see a fair bit of support for Dualsense so far
@@Briggsian Trigger resistance and enhanced vibration, roughly what promised
Because it is an analysis of graphics/performance....
I'm glad to see that DF keeps bringing up the importance of VRR as it can be a game changer for many games, not sure why it's taking Sony so long to implement it as you would think it would be quite easy for them to do.
I know some gamers will say it's not important because not many have tv's with that support but it matters because if I'm buying a new tv, I would want it with VRR and would want to know if my new console supports it, for now, that's a big advantage the Xbox consoles have, especially on games that target high frame rates but can't maintain it.
It's also one of the reasons I've not upgraded my tv yet for my PC because I've not seen any good tv's with VRR support at a reasonable price point and I'm sure not going to upgrade without it lol.
Console devs on optimizing a game to run at 4k60:
"We dedicated 3 seperate teams of our top engineers to develop revolutionary techniques that streamlined the transfer of textures and assets at the engine level. That combined with painstaking and groundbreaking research into the unique hardware capabilities of these new machines allowed us to achieve this remarkable, never before seen milestone of fidelity and clarity"
PC users:
"I turned down shadows"
@Noodle Judas console players getting snarky about tech is like a Toyota Corolla owner getting snarky about cars. It's cute, on a good day.
DF, you guys should take a look at Enlisted game preview on XSX. RT GI, audio, and AO at 4K/60FPS while using MeshShaders, VRS, etc. Seems like a proper next-gen game, albeit a preview.
Yeah but the XSX is trash.
@@FlipFlopGod You’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how irrelevant it might be lol
@@josiah3807 ugh fanboys gonna fanboy when their balls finally drop they'll grow out of it give them time 👍
After playing 60 fps games, idk how I ever played 30 fps. Maybe I'll finish this game with 60 fps now
just got gaming pc....no idea how could i play 30 fps on ps4 pro most of the games...
@@arbernuka3679 it's really weird looking at 30 fps right?
@@DavyDavePapi It's huge, I hope y'all get to experience 120. Once you hit that it feels so off going back to 60 and feels nasty playing 30
@Alaa eddine Abdelkader what are you on about?
@@vengooo i don't think my TV supports HDMI 2.1 for 120hz. Been lazy to switch ports to see if it does lol
In the Dirt 5 video they were surprised when PS5 had a better graphics preset but now it feels like they know the reason, I need explanations
What do you mean ?
They did say; The PS5 inherits the PS4 Pro settings and Series X inherits the One X settings. Why it was that way on PS4 Pro and One I can't say.
Anyway the most valuable takeaway from this video is that it's great on both.
@@Scimarad yh I like the fact both of them runs the game well but still it's confusing , Xbox One X using a lower preset is even more confusing be cause difference between PS4 Pro and One X was greater than this gen.
@@silvafox07 did u read specs of the two consoles, DF said in Dirt 5 video, that they don't know a reason for PS5 having a better graphics level than Series X , said maybe it's bug. but now they don't talk like that
Xbox damage control inbound ⛏️🔧
do we need to go past 1440p 60fps really? very impressed with the series s, and looking forward to seeing where this generation takes us
It sure is the sweet spot and all games should optimise for this.
But it drops almost to 1080p. But yh best game yet for the series S the others have been pathetic. But I would recommend anyone to buy it the problem is its lack of Ram.
Well it is a "last gen" game after all.
If you’re playing on a non hdmi 2.1 4K tv. There isn’t much difference graphically wise between a series X and S
Me watching at 360p: Ah yes resolution mode looks better
Me watching at 1080p 60 on my LG G8 like a Cod Mobile God
Poor Guy
@@alexd.3932 it’s supposed to be ironic
Completely unacceptable that Gearbox has never fixed the foliage density issue on One X and now Series S|X! They did literally almost nothing for this “update” it’s all just hardware grunt pushing the older code up to acceptable standards. Might as well just be back compat. Gearbox “Colonial Marines” Software is still as greedy and full of shit as ever.
Yeah annoying. Its not really optimized for next gen at all. Its just the last gen versions brute forced to 60fps and 120fps. I appreciate to make meaningful changes they would need to rewrite alot of code and maybe not release it till summer of 21. But calling this an optimized next gen game is wrong on both systems.
TBH, both looked like a mix of medium/high graphic settings on PC. Which was exactly what they had on last gen consoles. It wouldn't surprise me If all they did was left everything the same and just swapped the resolution/framerate caps and let the grunt of the hardware do the rest.
They did implement some pretty good support for the Dualsense controller though.
It's not just a port. If you play the PS4 version on the PS5 through BC you will see the same horrible load times as on PS4. But when you play the PS5 version, the loading is massively improved, so I wouldn't call it just a port. They just kept the graphycal settings.
Yup
The Series S is the worst thing what could happen for Xbox Players . I knew they don’t will make 2 Version so you get the S Version in 4K .
@Stuffstuffington Stuff Sorry but that is such a stupid question I don’t now what I should say to something like that 🤣
@Stuffstuffington Stuff What is my system I have all three so please tell me 🤣
It’s just a fact that because of the shitty S my games on the X looking worse then they could .
So I stay to my Word the Series S is total BS. Who wants raytracing but also want to play in 900 p? Who wants 60!fps when the games which support 60 Fps are running under HD Ready? That console is a disaster. And normally I wouldn’t care but because it affects my games I say fuck that console .
This brings a very interesting comparison series S against the last gen premium consoles and it is proved that Series S is a real next gen console.
With graphics like that? Lol keep dreaming
with vrr on is better
@@RainingFlow19 dude the xbox one x and ps4 pro couldn't even hit a constant 60fps in Borderlands 3 at 1920×1080,yet the series s plays at a constant 60fps at 2560×1440...
This new gen console is wonderful . I mean 120 FPS on console is a dream for console gamers .
not exactly , most of people play on tv, and 120hz tv are so expensive ..
I couldn't care less about 120fps.
No need for 120 really
@@schwartzy65 it's better to play online first party shooters at 120, just a far better competitive experience.
@@crazy10bears new gen with all this good stuff lie 120 and people still complain
Have just ordered this game for my PS5. I completed it when it came out on PC and despite the constant stuttering, I really enjoyed the game. Tried to play it again with my new RTX 3080 and it could handle 4K 60fps pretty well but I still noticed stutters here and there. Looking forward to trying this out for myself on the PS5.
stutter? lol right why don't you post a video so we can see
@@mondaymurder23 It's a Gearbox game that performs like a Gearbox game. He doesn't need to post shit.
@@mondaymurder23 Might probably post that at some point although its a bit pointless now. I had a RTX 2080Ti when I first played the game. DX12 was barely playable for me as it just didn't play right, so had to use DX11. With the RTX 3080 it seems either DX12 has improved or the GPU can handle DX12 better. Whatever the case, the stutters are nowhere near as bad as they used to be I can probably re-play the game on PC again, but am interested to see the PS5 version nevertheless, especially since my son seems to want to play splitscreen with me.
I've just received the PS5 version of Borderlands 3 and have played around with it enough to make some conclusions.
From a console point of view, this version is much better looking than the previous Xbox One X/PS4 Pro versions as the resolution is indeed higher. The splitscreen is smoother and the whole thing plays nice at both 120hz/1080p and 60hz/4K. I think most people will probably go for 4K/60 as its a good balance. The loading screens are smoother and overall it doesn't feel as jittery as previous gen.
Now, from a PC gamer (I own a RTX 3080/I9 10900K PC) having also played this game on PC I find that many of the settings on the PS5 upgraded version are a match for high/medium PC settings. The draw distance for some stuff seems a lot shorter than PC on Ultra/High. Funnily enough I find the DX12 version of Borderlands 3 on PC (DX12 was a mess when they first released the game, but having tried it yesterday I am very, very impressed!) to be a lot smoother than the PS5 version. There are way less dips, less stutters and the game is just better looking/more enjoyable on PC. My RTX 3080 hardly breaks a sweat playing the game now.
I would say PC obviously is much better but I think the PS5 version does hold up well. I think corners were definitely cut to get to 60fps at 4K, the game just doesn't look as good as the Ultra or even all High presets. Some may despise TAA as the anti-aliasing tech, but I think it would have done wonders for the console versions. The fact that these console versions use FXAA (At least thats what it looks like) means the PS5 version is way more jagged. Even 1440p on PC using TAA looks far cleaner.
Damn, even the Series S maintains a solid 60fps, albeit at a lower resolution. Still a W in my books
finally a game that doesn't struggle in XSS, still, it's a last gen game
Even ACV runs pretty good in 60fps.
When I switched from Borderlands 3 on Xbox One to Borderlands 3 on PC ultra settings, the difference was night and day.....it was honestly mind blowing. I’ve been wondering how Borderlands 3 would perform on these new consoles for a while now
Seeing the Series S perform so well in this title warms my heart. :)))
This is the first title where it actually runs what it was attended for. But unfortunately it won’t last. I think Microsoft advertise this console wrong. Mostly all games it won’t run 120fps. And sometimes it has a hard time achieving 1440p 30fps. Which isn’t good.
@@FlipFlopGod that's the developers fault, games should be running at 4k 60 on series x and 1440p 60 on series s if
@@FlipFlopGod
This gen is just getting started. The features that make up the Series X only just arrived to PC. Developers literally don't know how to utilize them. Trust me. You will get your money's worth within the next year.
@@FlipFlopGod nothing wrong with advertising it as a 1440p 120 fps machine.. Since that's it at peak..Gears 5 a triple A game can hit that benchmark
@Callum O'connor it was advertised as 1440 60 what are you talking about
1440p 60fps on a $300 console?!??! I'm definitely gonna pick one up.
Pay a 100$ more and you will get double the power and frames
Ps5 king status
330gb usuable space? no disc drive. have fun mate. its a dead deal storage alone and subscriptions ensure that. it ismt value dont fool yourself.
ps5 digital is literally £50 more. thats a value discless.
Enjoy man! Happy gaming.
Not worth it... let me explain why, the console only comes with around 500gb of storage(~370gb of which is actually usable). You will run out of storage very soon, meaning your likely going to need an expansion,which costs about $200. The console is already $300, add $200 storage and its $500. You might as well get the series x(1TB ~750gb usable) at that point or the ps5 digital edition ($400 and more powerful). Tha'ts my advice:)
Holy nut skags, less than a minute?! Going from the one S to the Series X will be amazing!
@Νίκος Παναγιωτόπουλος I'll finally be able to beat GTA V's story and not have grandkids waiting for Borderlands 3 to load, can't freaking wait!
@Νίκος Παναγιωτόπουλος same it's unbelievable I have 34 games downloaded just on my internal storage alone 😂 insane loading times and I haven't heard the console once damn I couldn't be happier
You would think that having extra textures that the PS5 has wouldn't be hard to port to the xbox. They must have used the base console settings
Very similar performance again. Great news, they are both amazing consoles for the money.
The 120fps mode goes from 120 to 30fps for cut scenes... Just how jarring and vomit inducing is that? Anyone experiencing it share your pain (or lack of) please.
They also do that with mk11 running the opening cutscenes at 30 but having the gameplay at sixty. It baffles me why devs do this.
@@MMoer Yeah, the opening scenes right before a fight at 30 fps and then hitting 60 fps after the "FIGHT" anouncement is so weird
vrr
No coverage of the split screen performance? A bit disappointing. That's the only reason I dropped the PS4 version.
Another great DF comparison covering all the bases. thanks Tom!
I also noticed the hitching when opening chests or when exploding enemies into chunks. Glad it wasn't just my head playing tricks.
This is off topic but, I have a ps5 now and went back to playing fallout 4. Holy shit it plays great now. No frame drops at all the way it should of been on ps4. Enjoy your systems guys. Lol
The fact that it took a PS5 to get it to lock a 30 fps is an embarrassment. Had the PS4 Pro had a better CPU, 1080p 60 fps could've been achieved.
Oh well, patch incoming I guess.
@@potatotablet727 triggered much?
@@gamebond6248 I play on PC so I'm not particularly concerned about this. I'm just saying that, it could've been so easy had they ditched that Jaguar CPU for something better when making the PS4 Pro. It still feels like a cash grab... all these years later.
@@potatotablet727 xbox one has jaguar cpu not ps4
@@glerdoskk6149incorrect, they both did.
Great video - I'll be getting Borderlands 3 soon on my series X. I wonder though how the updated 'optimisations' compare to running in backwards compatibility mode? It sounds like there wouldn't be much difference if One X already ran uncapped with DRS up to 4k?
I would rather have 1440p at 60fps on Ps5 and series X (This would allow developers to use pc ultra settings as a bonus). Native 4k is complete waste of resources.
Same but Sony thought it would be cool and not support 1440p
Let's be real here, they just want to choose the easiest way
Thanks, Tom! I've been waiting for y'all to analyze this one. BL3 is one of my most-played games, and performance on X1X has always been hit or miss; glad to hear Series X handles 60fps better, but I'm still disappointed to see those drops on the frame graph. Thankfully, my screen has VRR from 45hz to 75hz, so I should be good! ;)
It will be great when VRR becomes widely available even on lower-end TVs. Hopefully we see smaller monitors with decent HDR soon, too, for people who like to play at their desk on console or PC. X1X has VRR, I assume that helps on your screen?
Really like to see the splittscren analyzes.
Does the Ps5 version add dual sense support.
Yes, different feel for almost every gun i think.
Yes it's great
No, PS5 owners still have no sense.....
Well between this and the next gen grass i know which version im getting
@@qSPARTANp 🧂🧂
The fact that people are suprised that a 10.2 TF console is beating a 12TF console in majority of tests is proof that we are all victims of marketing bs. Mark Cerny & other respected developers warned us about judging performance based solely on GPU because these consoles are put together differently
honestly can't wait for Sony to release VRR support, will help out so much
It's beast dude I have VRR on my Series X and you don't experince any of the stuff you hear happening to Xbox...I can't wait till Sony supports it to though cause my Sony X90h supports it but Sony don't support it yet...waiting to game on my TV with VRR at 120fps!
Yeah, for the 1% of people that actually have a brand new tv that supports it.
@@RepublicofODLUM yeah I am using on monitor right now because my TV don't support VRR yet but the Sony X90H supports HDMI 2.1 and Vrr but not atm in a future update similar to PS5. But it will be the future of TV's
@@TheJspan yeah, I bought a vizio e series a few years back. Low end tv but has solid hdr and very good black levels and motion handling, wont be getting a new tv for atleast 2-3 years so I just dont want devs relying on it to stabilize their games. Awesome for people that have it though.
@@RepublicofODLUM I littertly just upgraded bought the TV for black friday 65' for 1k but it has HDMI 2.1 Dolby Vision, HDR 10 it's 120hz and also has Vrr(which is not supported yet until new firmware update) it has everything for the next gen consoles that's why I got it.
That's good to know it runs better on the Xbox Series X. (XSX)
Also Xbox Series X players are getting
A advantage in 120 frames multiplayer
Mode.
Did you watch the video?
Lol the ps5 has far more Details and a higher Resolution.
@@hulkadventure2880 the res isn't higher tho
120 frames run better.
Meaning more horsepower. XSX
Meaning Xbox players have an advantage in 120fps multiplayer.
@@CyberThug1080i It has higher settings on shadows, textures etc..
Summary:
Resolution mode: dynamic 4K/60fps. better shadows and more foliage on PS5
Performance mode: 1080p/120fps, little smoother in series x due to VRR support
Both Versions: PS5 loads about 3 seconds faster.
Should be mentioned that in performance mode SX has better baseline performance prior to VRR, not just because of it.
soft shadows is actually an upgrade, I think DF missed this, and it isnt more foliage, its just some extra grass, it doesn't effect trees/shrubs. stop making it sound much worse than it actually is please. people need to know the truth so they can make a decision based on it.
@@choatus I used DF’s words. They didn’t say “just some more grass”. You just seem overly sensitive.
My dad got drunk and punched a giraffe at the zoo. I was impressed.
One of the greatest games of last generation now is even better. If you didn't play it now it's time.
I will.
Eh, after playing the first 2, BL3 just seems boring and more of the same. I haven’t played it though, so that’s just my impression.
@@DocRobotnik the gameplay isn’t like 2? Just killing enemies and getting mostly junk loot? I feel like in 2 they reserved the best weapons for the chest thing, so it made the gameplay loop too grindy.
Developers of every game for 4K60 be like:
DRS now enabled this lap, remember you can use it on a car which is one second ahead of you in the zone.
hahaha nice one
I see your a man of culture
Looking forward to the next F1 season!
get in there lewis
Sony needs to add VRR already
Sony are slow at everything
dont forget 1440p support
@@lkfayz not as slow as microsoft to hand out GDKs and exclusives.
@@yoko_bby you can play 1440p as yoy can clearly hear the devs you just can't choose it to be actually set at 1440p but the game can be played at 1440p if thats what it was optimized to do its not that it won't output it its that you can keep the console on 1440p from the menu you clearly hear the devs say its at 1440p on ps5 lol
Bro they already did
Great video I love how you just point out where they excel over each other and not a trashing battle.
I purchased this game originally on my PC, and it ran terrible no matter how I adjusted the settings. I didn't make it far on the PC version. I was lucky enough to get my hands on a PS5, and picked this up on Black Friday, and man, what a night and day difference and I am hooked on this game! Great work Gear Box! Great video DF!
Incredible video. PlayStation 5 is a true generational leap of tech and power 🔥🔥🔥
The adaptive triggers is awesome on ps5 with this game
I heard the adaptive triggers are great in this game too. Super happy to see most devs so far utilizing these features
I'm pretty sure Sony made it mandatory for third parties who are doing a ps5 patch for their game to add adaptive triggers.
The great thing about being stuck with a 1080P TV is that all of any FPS drops on any game on my ps5 just doesn’t happen due to resolution.
Yeap, so glad that I don't go for 4k.
My Pro is running like a champ.
My next Tv is gonna be hdr but still 1080.
Don't care about 4k
@Sam Lloyd-Gale
I think you might be able to turn off supersampling atleast that was a feature on ps4 pro and with boost mode on it ran way better. You can watch the DF Kingdom Hearts 3 video where they show this.
The series s is very impressive for $300 you get 1440p 60 that's very impressive the bigger consoles need to be returned
Unless you have a 4K TV...
No they should not.
Xbox S is for people that don't have big expectations for graphics and just want to play their games. Which is ok still but not enough for many.
Look what is doing for 300 bucks it's giving you 120 frames and a lock 60 the PlayStation 4 pro is $400 and it cannot do that the switch can't come close to that it's very impressive for what it's doing
@@float32 wrong. I have a 4K (LG OLED C9, capable of 120hz) and have choosen a series S. The reason? Simple, i am a casual gamer...1440p is all i need.
@@mjjferreira why spend so much on a TV that you don’t use though? Do you watch 120Hz movies or something?
I’m impressed with PS5. My XSX’s shipping soon, but that’s a great console.
I’m gonna hold off the the ps5 till we get closer to god of war, apparently there is a design flaw in current ps5’s where the video memory has almost no cooling. Expect updated versions to be made like the ps4 pro.
They were identical this video. With ps5 having slightly faster loads and shadows. XSX did better at 120 fps. The real game changer is VR support. Which at some point everyone will have
Thirty Third to be honest, I quit before getting to the 120FPS part. Assumed another PS5 win. Will check it out. Really hoping MS adds VR; just got a Reverb G2. Could you imagine Forza Motorsport? 😬
Lightmyspliff takeflight My game is Forbidden West. Although I had PS4 and 1X, most of my gaming was on X1 and PC. Bought Zero Dawn on Steam and, glitches and all, still thought it was a masterpiece. I would give anything for a PS5 slim and no memory issues (I know, too early for slim versions). I think it looks better in person, but still not digging it on that department.
@FUCK YOU MARK SUCKERBERG AND GOOGLE ASSHOLE A quick google search determines, this is a lie 😂
Anyone else noticing shadow being sharper on PS5 vs XSX? 13:14