This is what shooting sport is about. Having a laugh and smashing clays with your mates no matter what the weather is. Then go have a dram of whiskey and be booking the next outing with a grin on your face. ☺️
Personally I would like to see what if any difference there is for both shooters if they compare a good but cheaper gun at say £800 or so against one of the top guns. What do you actually gain apart from nicer wood etc? How much better is the trigger, balance etc?
You know, beauty is such a subjective thing Ken. The technical excellence of a Kreighoff is without dispute. However, personally I find them as ugly as sin. As with most things German, superbly engineered, but always a case of substance over style. Certainly, no one of Italian origin was involved in the design of a Kreighoff. To be clear, I'm not saying you're wrong, just have a view different to mine. For me it's a black-action Perazzi all day long. Safe shooting mate.
Fantastic, one all now , can't wait for the rematch. Those Classic Doubles were fantastic guns when they came out and still look like they can do the business.
Excellent rapport between you, gentlemen. The SxS looks like a Winchester Model 21, including the irritatingly narrow gap between the barrels and the face. However, it is true that this SxS design most closely mimics a dedicated sporting clays O/U. Perry Pappous, SoCal, USA
Bloody cracking vid! I have a lesson booked with Abbey Ling in a few weeks to sort out my gaparooney which really does need a look at. BTW that's a groover of a side by side with a nice broad forend I have an old Spanish SXS boxlock with a forend which is as thin as a sardine, its good fun to shoot but a leap of faith to have a stab at clays but fun anyway. Funny enough it does well on the rabbit! Anyway, great to see Ed again he is a real spark. Nice vid lads it's a great informative 20 odd mins of which I love to see and look forward too... Good egg
Great Tutorial Johnny and Ed Every time out I get knowledge from watching. But I have a question I've owned a side x side but do companies make a left handed one one?
That SxS would be considerably spendier over here. Looks quite nice, but I'd much rather have 30" on it, which would let the muzzle end take up less space in the sky.
I’ve shot a SxS with short barrels and it’s a totally different feel. I tend to over swing with it and get jerky with the trigger. Difficult to say the least.
I went shooting sporting clays years ago in Montana; talking to the Ol' Timer who owned the place about how nice the shotgun I borrowed from him shot, he told me "It's the Indian, not the arrow". I learned later in the day he shoots with Team Krieghoff, so that really upped the compliment! In the right hands, as long as it goes 'boom', it's a killer!
Not bad for the money at all. I've been clay shooting a couple of times at a new ground a club member recommended, and have just got into the UO guns. First was a fibre optic bead which was pretty distracting, but quick to get used to. Hit 80% of the birds. Today it was a Browning with a much nicer sight picture and black steel bead, but I didn't do too well on double clays. Have to admit, I thought moving from a SxS to UO would be simple but it's quite a learning curve. One that I'm learning to love.
So the first thing that mattets most is the shooter of thegun and not just the gun and its price...the shooter and the fit of the stock are the most important factors from my perspective.
I would love to get my hands on one of those classic doubles 201s but they seem very thin on the ground and more expensive than that £250 price tag, are they worth the extra as I keep seeing them sold at £500-700 and for that I am in the low end of the vintage market for some nicer old English hand made stuff? Just a guy who's fallen in love with side by side shooting! 😂😂
Proves it is the man not the gun, within reason, you don't need 32" barrels and the latest and greatest, as long as the gun is functional, safe and fits. My English s/s are 100yrs old and perfect shooting condition, my Win 101 PG LWT 27" Winchoke has been re-built new pins & spring, will see me out. Lots of good buys out there to get into shooting without breaking the bank, look for Browning/Miroku/Beretta etc.
Hello Have a nice day Please we need informations about how much bar pressure can we maximum shoot in browning o/u shotguns. And Thank you for this beautiful channel 👍
Nothing wrong with a winchester 23/cd 201 great old guns, kodensha plant can't go wrong really, once you get to a certain level in gun making quality you can pay all you want you really don't get a measureable advantage outside of gunfitting
CFG ???? maybe if you have a youtube channel then the service is brilliant but its different for jo public paid money on the 2nd November and still waiting . Its a long 20-25 working days. Im confident that it is worth the wait. Always puts a smile on my face when you and edd get together, keep it up
I really don’t care for side by sides. The one shown is a beauty, and would fetch well over the price you’ve listed. In fact people tend to hold on to these guns and you just don’t see many of this quality for anywhere the price listed. In Canada, Many have 30” barrels, no ribs, and are just HEAVY.
That’s the beauty of gun auctions, it worth twice what I paid in a retail place. But it was lurking in a back corner of holts and nobody was confident enough to go for it clearly (other than me!)
I would love to see this sort of thing but with a s*** gun theoretically made for Clays... Like a condor competition or some other current production cheap nasty sporting over under.
This is what shooting sport is about. Having a laugh and smashing clays with your mates no matter what the weather is. Then go have a dram of whiskey and be booking the next outing with a grin on your face. ☺️
A gun expert was once asked what's the most important thing about a firearm. He answered ' when you pull the trigger it goes bang'
"I'm less repulsed than I was last time"
Classic .... 🤣
Just goes to show you---a 26" barreled SxS will work on many targets in the right hands. Great video !!!!!
Ed Solomons kills me. Love these videos with him.
I have to say if ever i needed a shooting lesson i would definitely try to get one of Ed as he's not big headed and i like the way he help's you.
The black action on your longthorn is simply wonderful!
The stock though! 😍
Personally I would like to see what if any difference there is for both shooters if they compare a good but cheaper gun at say £800 or so against one of the top guns. What do you actually gain apart from nicer wood etc? How much better is the trigger, balance etc?
Absolutely love these videos. Loads of fun!
That Krieghoff looks prettier than a gob of butter melting on a fresh biscuit.
I just heard Buddy Brown apply that line to that TikTok gymnast. She is something, but I think Budddy would agree the Krieghoff would be less trouble.
@@funkla65 And in the long run a LOT less expensive.
Lol be careful you will confuse the UK fans. They are not sure why you would melt butter on a cookie.
@@mattcosgrove8254 Truth be told I borrowed the expression from an American. As usual he will take the blame for any confusion.
You know, beauty is such a subjective thing Ken. The technical excellence of a Kreighoff is without dispute. However, personally I find them as ugly as sin. As with most things German, superbly engineered, but always a case of substance over style. Certainly, no one of Italian origin was involved in the design of a Kreighoff. To be clear, I'm not saying you're wrong, just have a view different to mine. For me it's a black-action Perazzi all day long. Safe shooting mate.
Another class vid by JC, Sasha and Ace Solomons! Great work guys! That K80 though 🤤
I could watch you two for hours! It’s so much fun 😂
Fantastic, one all now , can't wait for the rematch.
Those Classic Doubles were fantastic guns when they came out and still look like they can do the business.
Love these vids with Ed. Keepm comin!
I love the funky look of that SxS, it looks like the 500 Nitro Express rifle with that raised rib. Very good video chaps
Excellent rapport between you, gentlemen. The SxS looks like a Winchester Model 21, including the irritatingly narrow gap between the barrels and the face. However, it is true that this SxS design most closely mimics a dedicated sporting clays O/U. Perry Pappous, SoCal, USA
Great job John and having Ed S again is superior two thumbs up
You guys are just the best a can’t put ma phone down when you two are in town just excellent.All the very best 👍🏻🏴👍🏻🏴👍🏻🏴
Site by side double barrels are some of my favorite looking guns
I have to say that this is one of the most fun videos I've seen!
Bloody cracking vid! I have a lesson booked with Abbey Ling in a few weeks to sort out my gaparooney which really does need a look at. BTW that's a groover of a side by side with a nice broad forend I have an old Spanish SXS boxlock with a forend which is as thin as a sardine, its good fun to shoot but a leap of faith to have a stab at clays but fun anyway. Funny enough it does well on the rabbit! Anyway, great to see Ed again he is a real spark. Nice vid lads it's a great informative 20 odd mins of which I love to see and look forward too... Good egg
I’d take the side x side any day. I love them.
Great Tutorial Johnny and Ed
Every time out I get knowledge
from watching. But I have a question I've owned a side x side but do companies make a left handed one one?
I wish we had inexpensive side by sides here, that is beautiful!
Had a mouthful of baked beans when ed came out with the human faeces joke!!funny. Nice video again 👍.
Usual quality production - brilliant production. Would love to go on a ahoot sometime Jonny. Keep it up 👍👍
That SxS would be considerably spendier over here. Looks quite nice, but I'd much rather have 30" on it, which would let the muzzle end take up less space in the sky.
That Blackthorne is looking amazing Jonny!
I’ve shot a SxS with short barrels and it’s a totally different feel. I tend to over swing with it and get jerky with the trigger. Difficult to say the least.
I went shooting sporting clays years ago in Montana; talking to the Ol' Timer who owned the place about how nice the shotgun I borrowed from him shot, he told me "It's the Indian, not the arrow". I learned later in the day he shoots with Team Krieghoff, so that really upped the compliment! In the right hands, as long as it goes 'boom', it's a killer!
A 201 in the states would go for 2,500 to 3,000 USD. Shame we can't get decent SxS and O/U here for $300-400. Only option we have is the Stoeger.
Ed is a Savage 😂 oh man do i want a couple of lessons with him 😄
Classic Doubles 201 S/S, Winchester 23 predecessor, I remember they were expensive new, marketed as the S/S shoots like an O/U.
Not bad for the money at all.
I've been clay shooting a couple of times at a new ground a club member recommended, and have just got into the UO guns. First was a fibre optic bead which was pretty distracting, but quick to get used to. Hit 80% of the birds. Today it was a Browning with a much nicer sight picture and black steel bead, but I didn't do too well on double clays.
Have to admit, I thought moving from a SxS to UO would be simple but it's quite a learning curve. One that I'm learning to love.
Jolly good show . . .
I've literally just sat dwn to put a bit of tgs on and bam new content great work tgs
#metoo
Me too 😂
IT DEFINITELY WAS A PERFECT TIMING FOR ME THIS MORNING !!
Brilliant vid 👍
What make is that side by side
The Classic Double was using the same frame as the Parker Reproduction.
@ my first big match ever I showed up with a 300 euro second hand over and under, I was used to it and it was mine so the score was good.
Love these videos with Ed great entreatment not sure with the red trainers !! 🤔🤣👌👊
Congratulations for the channel !!
Thank you so much 😀
Just having a little fun 👍
...not the highest rib I've seen on a SxS... but unusually high, nevertheless... and I just noticed it had a mid bead too! :-D
Really enjoy all your videos. When might we see some game shooting videos John?
This Thursday and the Thursday after
What models are those sunglasses? They look great
Army of Darkness 🤭
Good movie, have to rewatch it!
Ed, the burning question here is whether it shot like it's Shop Smart's top of the line?
That SxS is actually quite nice, i'd like that
What was the make and model of the SxS?
So the first thing that mattets most is the shooter of thegun and not just the gun and its price...the shooter and the fit of the stock are the most important factors from my perspective.
What’s the brand of that side by side, I actually want one
I would love to get my hands on one of those classic doubles 201s but they seem very thin on the ground and more expensive than that £250 price tag, are they worth the extra as I keep seeing them sold at £500-700 and for that I am in the low end of the vintage market for some nicer old English hand made stuff? Just a guy who's fallen in love with side by side shooting! 😂😂
Unfortunately you might be in for £800-1000 for a nice example but luckily this one was overlooked in the back of holts auctioneers
Whats is the glasses that you have guys ? Nice video btw :)
This is my “boom stick!”
Was this shot at Grimsthorpe?
Whats the name of the cheap side by side shot gun ?
I spoke with Ed at an open day at Ian Coleys. I asked him if he bought that Zabala 😂 He said he would buy it to use as a cricket bat 😂
It is a very unloved gun!
@@tgsoutdoors I know! You should sell him one 😂
Can someone explain me why some people use the sight in the middle of the barrel?
A Quick Look at Mid-Beads
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Proves it is the man not the gun, within reason, you don't need 32" barrels and the latest and greatest, as long as the gun is functional, safe and fits.
My English s/s are 100yrs old and perfect shooting condition, my Win 101 PG LWT 27" Winchoke has been re-built new pins & spring, will see me out.
Lots of good buys out there to get into shooting without breaking the bank, look for Browning/Miroku/Beretta etc.
What flat cap is he wearing?
great vid , is the side by side for sale
No 😂 I’m not done with it yet!
Intended to be similar in appearance to a Parker Bros. from the USA.
Part parker repro
Part Winchester 21
Part Winchester 23
@@tgsoutdoors Yes, except for the really bad glossy stock finish (bad for a Parker, at least).
“Morale raping” 😂
I think Ed should buy that gun😉
What is the brand of your glasses? The orange one?
www.edwardseyewear.com Hiroki 2’s
@@tgsoutdoors Thank you so much
As long as it's a single trigger, ejector with a fibre optic bead and is compatile with modern chokes I personally couldn't care less tbh.
Hello
Have a nice day
Please we need informations about how much bar pressure can we maximum shoot in browning o/u shotguns.
And Thank you for this beautiful channel 👍
Nothing wrong with a winchester 23/cd 201 great old guns, kodensha plant can't go wrong really, once you get to a certain level in gun making quality you can pay all you want you really don't get a measureable advantage outside of gunfitting
Are you shooting # 6 shot at clays ? We can't shoot anything larger than a # 7 1/2
6.5's
I would much rather use the sxs
As they say it’s not the gun, it’s the prick behind the stick 😂
CFG ???? maybe if you have a youtube channel then the service is brilliant but its different for jo public
paid money on the 2nd November and still waiting . Its a long 20-25 working days. Im confident that it is worth the wait.
Always puts a smile on my face when you and edd get together, keep it up
Get him a Churchill xxv , bet he still hits everything😁which means then its a Baikal double🤣
It’s a boom stick
Why is it when I search for the cheap gun I get hit with $10,000+ prices? Is there a cheaper version of it or something?
A classic doubles 201 for $10k!!!
I really don’t care for side by sides. The one shown is a beauty, and would fetch well over the price you’ve listed. In fact people tend to hold on to these guns and you just don’t see many of this quality for anywhere the price listed. In Canada, Many have 30” barrels, no ribs, and are just HEAVY.
That’s the beauty of gun auctions, it worth twice what I paid in a retail place. But it was lurking in a back corner of holts and nobody was confident enough to go for it clearly (other than me!)
well. except the little mistake in the title: very enjoyable
Get a blondie browning sweet sixteen. Check it out
What ever it is, if you don’t like it send the gun to me. I love any and all side by sides.Thank you
What's the sxs ?
classic doubles the same as a winchester 23 made in japan by Olin-Kodensha
@@lucastolson3570 thank you sir
@@lucastolson3570 thank you sir
Full review coming in 2 weeks
@@tgsoutdoors can you do one on a 32 inch sxs barrel Dickenson?
Blimey!
Would be interesting to see what Ed could do with a classic, good quality live pigeon gun. I suspect he’d do very well with it…..
Movie quote:
Now listen up you primitive screwheads. This is my Boomstick!
were is it just a blank screen???
Hail to the king baby
I’d buy that gun for £210
I have to ask, what's up with the red shoes now?
Was the only pair of size 13’s they had, so I thought why not!
I don’t like the black action.. it’s like coloring a diamond with a sharpie
I would of liked a better description of the guns you were shooting.
I wonder what choke you would use to defeat an army of undead skeletons?!
I would love to see this sort of thing but with a s*** gun theoretically made for Clays... Like a condor competition or some other current production cheap nasty sporting over under.
I’m Sure that can be arranged
Avı vurduran pahalı veya ucuz bir tüfek değil,kendinize göre ayarlanmış bir dipciktir
put thew right adress on it and u will hit it....
Haven’t you got the title the wrong way around?
Boom stick with unlimited ammo
It's not the bow........its the Indian.
Did Jonny roll around in the mud before recording this?
That will become apparent on Sundays Video
A bit unfair when Johnnys gun is expensive you should both be shooting guns the same price
Well Ed is an ex champ so it wouldn’t even be close
Am I the only one thinking that Ed “shoulders” the gun quite low? Obviously very effective, but there must be a mile of rib in his picture …
"This is my BOOMSTICK!"
Shop smart. Shop S Mart.